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-<wrap hide>1|00:00:03|300|00:00:08|280</wrap>Okay, good morning everyone, at least this morning here in Arizona. <wrap hide>2|00:00:10|020|00:00:18|600</wrap>And today is July the 26th, and we are continuing with our esoteric astrology adventures, number <wrap hide>3|00:00:18|600|00:00:21|780</wrap>32 this time. We completed 31 last time. <wrap hide>4|00:00:22|420|00:00:31|600</wrap>We were working on the way the <wrap quote>constellations</wrap>—he uses the word constellations rather than <wrap hide>5|00:00:31|600|00:00:50|720</wrap>signs in this case—the way the constellations are related through shared rulers, in the <wrap hide>6|00:00:50|720|00:00:59|420</wrap>case of the esoteric rulers and the hierarchical rulers, and we had just finished the hierarchical <wrap hide>7|00:01:00|120|00:01:08|300</wrap>rulers and we had been comparing, looking at some of the hierarchies which are related <wrap hide>8|00:01:08|300|00:01:13|420</wrap>through the rays of the planets which rule those hierarchies. <wrap hide>9|00:01:14|110|00:01:26|800</wrap>This is a detailed study with deep implications for the development of knowledge of the creative <wrap hide>10|00:01:26|800|00:01:30|280</wrap>hierarchies and knowledge of the deeper aspects of astrology. <wrap hide>11|00:01:31|240|00:01:39|080</wrap>I think there is enough on the previous esoteric astrology adventure for you to gather something <wrap hide>12|00:01:39|080|00:01:39|480</wrap>out of it. <wrap hide>13|00:01:39|480|00:01:48|280</wrap>Now we will move on. We're on page 68, and I think we did read this <wrap quote>note: Aries and Capricorn <wrap hide>14|00:01:49|100|00:01:54|040</wrap>in conjunction with seventh and fifth ray energies stand alone.</wrap> <wrap hide>15|00:01:54|160|00:01:59|820</wrap>Well, Aries is hierarchically ruled by Uranus, which is from the solar perspective a seventh <wrap hide>16|00:01:59|820|00:02:05|760</wrap>ray planet. Capricorn is hierarchically ruled by Venus, which from the solar perspective <wrap hide>17|00:02:05|760|00:02:13|820</wrap>is a fifth ray planet, and there are no other normal planets that are expressing the seventh <wrap hide>18|00:02:13|820|00:02:23|840</wrap>or fifth ray in any very powerful way, or in any way that we are using at this time <wrap hide>19|00:02:23|840|00:02:28|640</wrap>in our work with astrology, although I did mention that Jupiter has quite a bit of the <wrap hide>20|00:02:28|640|00:02:31|720</wrap>seventh ray connected with it. <wrap hide>21|00:02:32|840|00:02:44|120</wrap>And some people suggest that the planet Sigma, which is again an undiscovered planet, but <wrap hide>22|00:02:44|640|00:02:52|900</wrap>one for which there appears to be an ephemeris and which has a planetary period of some 13.5 <wrap hide>23|00:02:52|900|00:02:56|460</wrap>years, has much to do with the fifth ray. <wrap hide>24|00:02:56|460|00:03:07|440</wrap>Okay, we will see how the information emerges as we begin to discover these undiscovered. <wrap hide>25|00:03:08|000|00:03:24|260</wrap>Okay, now we have—let's see here—testing, testing, yes, okay. Now they carry on with <wrap hide>26|00:03:24|260|00:03:31|380</wrap>something that we have been noticing all along: ray one, Taurus and Pisces <wrap quote>through Vulcan <wrap hide>27|00:03:31|380|00:03:33|640</wrap>and Pluto.</wrap> Yes, that's correct. <wrap hide>28|00:03:36|000|00:03:40|480</wrap>We've discussed that: Taurus ruled by ray one Vulcan, Pisces by ray one Pluto, so Taurus <wrap hide>29|00:03:40|480|00:03:43|620</wrap>and Pisces are related in terms of world saviors. <wrap hide>30|00:03:44|860|00:03:52|780</wrap>Now we have Leo and Virgo; they are related through Jupiter. <wrap hide>31|00:03:54|440|00:03:57|880</wrap>The Sun rules Leo, ray two; Jupiter rules Virgo, ray two. <wrap hide>32|00:03:59|940|00:04:06|940</wrap>Gemini, in the case of the hierarchical rulers, is related to Libra, but those two stood alone <wrap hide>33|00:04:06|940|00:04:13|320</wrap>when we dealt with esoteric rulers, because again, ray five, Venus ruling Gemini, and <wrap hide>34|00:04:13|320|00:04:18|620</wrap>ray seven, Uranus ruling Libra esoterically, stood alone. <wrap hide>35|00:04:19|040|00:04:24|720</wrap>But now, here we are, with Gemini ruled by the third ray Earth and Libra ruled by third <wrap hide>36|00:04:24|720|00:04:25|280</wrap>ray Saturn. <wrap hide>37|00:04:25|940|00:04:33|200</wrap>When it comes to ray four, we have a relationship between Scorpio and Aquarius, hierarchically. <wrap hide>38|00:04:34|240|00:04:40|240</wrap>Scorpio ruled by ray four Mercury and Aquarius by ray four Moon. <wrap hide>39|00:04:40|920|00:04:46|440</wrap>And of course, the important thing is to not just look at the relationship between the <wrap hide>40|00:04:46|440|00:04:56|840</wrap>constellations or signs, but to see the manner in which these creative hierarchies are inter-related. <wrap hide>41|00:04:56|840|00:05:03|940</wrap>In our cosmos, everything is related to everything else, but sometimes there are special, especially <wrap hide>42|00:05:03|940|00:05:05|980</wrap>influential, relationships. <wrap hide>43|00:05:06|740|00:05:13|080</wrap>When it—we seem to have lost—yeah, ray five we don't have, of course, and ray six we do, <wrap hide>44|00:05:13|120|00:05:14|060</wrap>ray seven we don't. <wrap hide>45|00:05:14|740|00:05:19|820</wrap>Cancer is ruled by ray six Neptune, Sagittarius by ray six Mars, and we've discussed the relationship <wrap hide>46|00:05:19|820|00:05:23|040</wrap>of that particular—of those particular creative hierarchies. <wrap hide>47|00:05:23|810|00:05:25|540</wrap>All right. <wrap hide>48|00:05:27|080|00:05:39|340</wrap>Now, <wrap quote>in view of all the above,</wrap> and starting with the basic fact of the great illusion, <wrap hide>49|00:05:40|360|00:05:52|140</wrap>which I think is produced by the limitations of our perceptual capacity, although in a <wrap hide>50|00:05:52|140|00:06:00|000</wrap>sense it is—it should be remembered <wrap quote>that the accuracy of astrological prediction and <wrap hide>51|00:06:00|000|00:06:03|480</wrap>interpretation will be based upon three factors.</wrap> <wrap hide>52|00:06:05|080|00:06:11|780</wrap>Number one: <wrap quote>the potency of the thought forms which have been built up in connection with <wrap hide>53|00:06:11|780|00:06:12|640</wrap>the twelve signs.</wrap> <wrap hide>54|00:06:12|640|00:06:22|140</wrap>And we are told that initially a hierarchy anchored on the subtle planes great thought <wrap hide>55|00:06:22|140|00:06:25|760</wrap>forms associated with the twelve signs of the zodiac. <wrap hide>56|00:06:25|940|00:06:33|960</wrap>I'm not sure when that happened because not always in the—not always in the history of <wrap hide>57|00:06:33|960|00:06:40|340</wrap>humanity have the twelve signs been active in relationship to humanity. <wrap hide>58|00:06:40|340|00:06:48|620</wrap>Well, the constellations of course have always been there, but the signs themselves were <wrap hide>59|00:06:48|620|00:06:49|340</wrap>not influential. <wrap hide>60|00:06:49|520|00:06:54|960</wrap>At first there were eight signs, maybe then ten, at one point eleven, and finally twelve, <wrap hide>61|00:06:55|240|00:06:56|680</wrap>D.K. tells us. <wrap hide>62|00:06:56|720|00:07:02|960</wrap>But at least the constellations were there, and one could anchor transforming thought <wrap hide>63|00:07:02|960|00:07:09|180</wrap>forms—so thought forms which could somehow capture the energy and help to make that energy <wrap hide>64|00:07:10|180|00:07:12|380</wrap>intelligible to the humanity of the period. <wrap hide>65|00:07:13|020|00:07:16|760</wrap>I think I'll have to look that up, but it may have been in Atlantean times that this <wrap hide>66|00:07:16|760|00:07:21|100</wrap>anchoring... Well, here it talks about it. <wrap hide>67|00:07:21|380|00:07:26|620</wrap>These thought forms <wrap quote>were originally constructed or anchored upon the mental plane—okay—by <wrap hide>68|00:07:26|620|00:07:29|500</wrap>the hierarchy in Atlantean days. <wrap hide>69|00:07:31|440|00:07:35|280</wrap>And they have steadily gained in power ever since,</wrap> because we have all been, you know, <wrap hide>70|00:07:35|380|00:07:37|360</wrap>contributing to them. <wrap hide>71|00:07:38|060|00:07:49|320</wrap>So they have a way, as he says here, serving <wrap quote>as focal points for certain forces and enabling <wrap hide>72|00:07:49|320|00:07:55|520</wrap>the individual, for instance, to be in touch with great reservoirs of energy which then <wrap hide>73|00:07:55|520|00:07:57|180</wrap>definitely condition him.</wrap> <wrap hide>74|00:07:57|300|00:08:02|760</wrap>Probably without those thought forms, it would be much harder for the energy of the constellations <wrap hide>75|00:08:02|760|00:08:13|700</wrap>working through those areas of the Earth's aura which we call signs to reach humanity <wrap hide>76|00:08:13|700|00:08:15|500</wrap>in a significant way. <wrap hide>77|00:08:16|980|00:08:20|760</wrap>So now there are great thought forms related to the twelve constellations. <wrap hide>78|00:08:21|700|00:08:30|520</wrap>I imagine in some ways they are very complex, with so much added to them, but probably the <wrap hide>79|00:08:32|080|00:08:36|940</wrap>initial essential ideas are there, given by the hierarchy. <wrap hide>80|00:08:38|500|00:08:44|920</wrap>So we're saying here the accuracy of astrological prediction will be based upon—okay—these <wrap hide>81|00:08:45|520|00:08:49|820</wrap>thought forms. That's one thing: the thought forms which have been anchored upon the mental <wrap hide>82|00:08:49|820|00:08:52|320</wrap>plane by the hierarchy in Atlantean days. <wrap hide>83|00:08:53|420|00:08:56|900</wrap>Accuracy will also be based upon <wrap quote>the intuition of the astrologer. <wrap hide>1|00:00:03|300|00:00:08|280</wrap>The casting of the horoscope serves to put the astrologer en rapport with the individual. <wrap hide>85|00:09:03|440|00:09:10|060</wrap>But this is of small service to either party unless the intuition and sensitivity of the <wrap hide>86|00:09:10|060|00:09:11|420</wrap>astrologer is actively present.</wrap> <wrap hide>87|00:09:11|680|00:09:16|300</wrap>Well, in the old days we used to do all of this by hand. <wrap hide>88|00:09:17|200|00:09:19|140</wrap>We did not even have calculators. <wrap hide>89|00:09:20|060|00:09:27|420</wrap>Then came calculators and computers and astrological programs which did so much of the work for <wrap hide>90|00:09:27|420|00:09:27|560</wrap>you. <wrap hide>91|00:09:27|860|00:09:32|860</wrap>Sometimes I think in the hour it may have taken to prepare a natal chart, there was a <wrap hide>92|00:09:32|860|00:09:41|300</wrap>growing rapport emerging between the astrologer preparing the chart and the individual whom <wrap hide>93|00:09:41|300|00:09:43|440</wrap>the chart represented. <wrap hide>94|00:09:44|620|00:09:53|700</wrap>In any case, there is a symbol before us, and this symbol is a symbol of rapport. And we've <wrap hide>95|00:09:53|700|00:09:58|960</wrap>noticed—I think some of us who are astrologers—how we may be dealing with an individual and <wrap hide>96|00:09:58|960|00:10:05|940</wrap>have a certain type of rapport, but via the chart we obviously see other things, more <wrap hide>97|00:10:05|940|00:10:12|960</wrap>things, and seeing those things helps guide us into a deeper type of rapport with the <wrap hide>98|00:10:12|960|00:10:18|820</wrap>individual. But obviously the new type of astrology is the intuitional astrology, and <wrap hide>99|00:10:18|820|00:10:21|320</wrap>intuition and sensitivity are both required. <wrap hide>100|00:10:22|400|00:10:29|380</wrap>So from that point of view, Neptune is a very useful planet to the astrologer, especially <wrap hide>101|00:10:29|380|00:10:40|000</wrap>to the esoteric astrologer who is trying to touch into the deeper layers of the subject <wrap hide>102|00:10:40|000|00:10:41|760</wrap>for whom he may be preparing a chart. <wrap hide>103|00:10:41|760|00:10:50|920</wrap>And then accuracy is dependent upon <wrap quote>the capacity of the astrologer in any specific period to <wrap hide>104|00:10:51|300|00:10:56|040</wrap>respond to the changes which are all the time taking place.</wrap> <wrap hide>105|00:10:57|680|00:11:02|340</wrap>In other words, the astrologer reading hundreds of years ago would have had different conditions <wrap hide>106|00:11:02|340|00:11:07|520</wrap>in which to read, different subtle energies reaching him than at the present time. <wrap hide>107|00:11:07|520|00:11:13|620</wrap>And D.K. speaks of the gradual shifting and changing, <wrap quote>such as the gradual shifting and changing <wrap hide>108|00:11:13|620|00:11:16|760</wrap>brought about by the precession of the equinoxes.</wrap> <wrap hide>109|00:11:17|420|00:11:26|740</wrap>So a different degree of a particular sign is always presenting itself. <wrap hide>110|00:11:27|440|00:11:33|560</wrap>For instance, at the moment we are probably in the last few degrees of early Pisces. <wrap hide>111|00:11:33|560|00:11:41|460</wrap>Each degree having its particular quality and influencing the Earth for 72 years, approximately. <wrap hide>112|00:11:41|920|00:11:48|060</wrap>So each degree influences for 72 years. <wrap hide>113|00:11:48|920|00:11:58|720</wrap>And the precession of the equinoxes gives us a general relationship with the major sign <wrap hide>114|00:11:58|720|00:12:00|820</wrap>which lasts 2,160 years. <wrap hide>115|00:12:01|480|00:12:09|040</wrap>But there are decanates, there are half-decanates, light and dark faces of each decanate. <wrap hide>116|00:12:09|500|00:12:16|040</wrap>There are Dvadashamsas of 2.5 degrees. We sometimes simplify that by simply calling them Dvads, <wrap hide>117|00:12:16|180|00:12:19|520</wrap>D-W-A-D-S, and then the particular degree itself. <wrap hide>118|00:12:19|520|00:12:28|660</wrap>And also, all the time the Earth and all life upon it is subject to the quality of particular parts <wrap hide>119|00:12:28|660|00:12:37|520</wrap>of the major sign towards which the vernal equinox is pointing, or let's call it the constellation. <wrap hide>120|00:12:38|520|00:12:46|960</wrap>Even though the size of the constellations is variable, in general we're all agreed to look at them <wrap hide>121|00:12:46|960|00:12:54|340</wrap>as 30-degree segments of space, and the vernal equinox is oriented towards these segments of space <wrap hide>122|00:12:54|340|00:13:00|540</wrap>and bringing in certain major energies and sub-energies and sub-sub-energies, all of which affect us. <wrap hide>123|00:13:01|460|00:13:05|500</wrap>And we're talking about <wrap quote>the slow shift of the pole of the planet.</wrap> <wrap hide>124|00:13:05|620|00:13:12|140</wrap>Well, this can be the wobble in a rightward direction of the pole. <wrap hide>125|00:13:12|140|00:13:21|340</wrap>It turns in the opposite direction of the planet rotating and the planet revolving. <wrap hide>126|00:13:24|680|00:13:31|500</wrap>Yes. Okay, so that of course is correlated with the precession of the equinoxes, <wrap hide>127|00:13:31|500|00:13:40|220</wrap>but there's also other movements of the planets, kind of a back and forth movement of the polar axis, <wrap hide>128|00:13:40|220|00:13:45|960</wrap>and that's called nutation, N-U-T-A-T-I-O-N. <wrap hide>129|00:13:46|420|00:13:53|880</wrap><wrap quote>To this should be added that as man evolves, the mechanism of response, or the vehicles of consciousness, <wrap hide>130|00:13:54|280|00:14:03|680</wrap>likewise steadily improve</wrap>s. So, today's human being is far more sensitive to these various types of energies <wrap hide>131|00:14:03|680|00:14:08|760</wrap>than may have been the case in earlier times, and the astrologer has to assess whether <wrap hide>132|00:14:08|760|00:14:19|400</wrap>his subject, the so-called native for which he is drawing the chart, can be sensitive to the potential energies. <wrap hide>133|00:14:20|340|00:14:22|800</wrap>You know, there's lots of things that can reach a person. <wrap hide>134|00:14:22|920|00:14:30|660</wrap>The question is, according to the form nature before us, can these energies reach that individual? <wrap hide>135|00:14:30|660|00:14:38|780</wrap>If we try to use the sacred planets and even the hierarchical planets and the esoteric planets <wrap hide>136|00:14:40|400|00:14:47|080</wrap>as important in the life of the average individual, we may be talking about something which is non-existent <wrap hide>137|00:14:47|080|00:14:51|920</wrap>in his consciousness, even though present in space. <wrap hide>138|00:14:52|600|00:15:00|000</wrap>Now, <wrap quote>his reactions therefore to the planetary influence and to the energy of the various constellations <wrap hide>139|00:15:00|000|00:15:06|760</wrap>mediated through the signs change with equal steadiness, and allowance must be made for this.</wrap> <wrap hide>140|00:15:06|880|00:15:14|720</wrap>So, we have to be very aware of the time in which we are casting the horoscope, the period, the conditions, <wrap hide>141|00:15:14|720|00:15:23|420</wrap>the atmosphere, even the various ray cycles which are operative at the time of casting the horoscope, <wrap hide>142|00:15:23|680|00:15:31|800</wrap>because the ray cycles will naturally influence how we receive the astrological energies. <wrap hide>143|00:15:33|200|00:15:40|280</wrap><wrap quote>It is consequently essential that the modern astrologer begin to study the point in evolution of the subject <wrap hide>144|00:15:40|280|00:15:50|140</wrap>prior to casting</wrap> the horoscope. Well, you know, this was written 80 years ago, or almost so, in cases of part of the book. <wrap hide>145|00:15:51|560|00:16:02|260</wrap>And this by now has become, for esoteric astrologers, an important statement, an important principle. <wrap hide>146|00:16:03|760|00:16:09|760</wrap>We must study, to the degree we can assess it, and we cannot necessarily assess it with great accuracy, <wrap hide>147|00:16:10|420|00:16:13|720</wrap>the point in evolution of the subject prior to casting the horoscope. <wrap hide>148|00:16:13|820|00:16:19|760</wrap>But we do have the general sense of whether the person is functioning as a personality, <wrap hide>149|00:16:21|420|00:16:27|960</wrap>and is following our personality desires which relate to acquisition in the three lower worlds, <wrap hide>150|00:16:27|960|00:16:33|500</wrap>or whether that person is in process of awakening to higher values and possibilities, <wrap hide>151|00:16:33|680|00:16:45|840</wrap>or whether that person is well on his way, on the path, and has been pursuing these higher values and possibilities for some time. <wrap hide>152|00:16:46|780|00:16:55|680</wrap>At least those three categories we can probably assess, and we will interpret the horoscope accordingly. <wrap hide>153|00:16:56|640|00:17:03|040</wrap>Going on, <wrap quote>he must ascertain his approximate place upon the path of evolution.</wrap> <wrap hide>154|00:17:04|700|00:17:11|880</wrap>So are we dealing with an ambitious person? Are we dealing with, well even before an ambitious person, <wrap hide>155|00:17:11|960|00:17:15|560</wrap>simply an average individual with no particular direction in life? <wrap hide>156|00:17:15|660|00:17:22|040</wrap>Are we dealing with a strong lower ego, driven by a personal ambition? <wrap hide>157|00:17:22|040|00:17:27|500</wrap>Are we dealing with an aspirant who is awakening? <wrap hide>158|00:17:27|920|00:17:33|460</wrap>Are we dealing with a probationary disciple who is willing to be tested and struggling with those tests? <wrap hide>159|00:17:33|560|00:17:42|320</wrap>Are we dealing with a disciple who is truly one-pointed and increasingly mentally focused? <wrap hide>160|00:17:42|500|00:17:48|000</wrap>Are we dealing with an accepted disciple who has come on rapport with the ashram of a master, <wrap hide>161|00:17:49|320|00:17:53|680</wrap>and who is now approaching that ashram and seeking to serve that ashram? <wrap hide>162|00:17:54|580|00:17:58|500</wrap>Are we dealing at last with the probationary initiate of the first or second degree, <wrap hide>163|00:17:58|520|00:18:02|400</wrap>or are we dealing with the true initiate of the third degree and beyond? <wrap hide>164|00:18:03|460|00:18:09|460</wrap>Of course, maybe if we were, we would not be in such a position to be very useful to such an individual. <wrap hide>165|00:18:10|320|00:18:11|340</wrap>Maybe yes, maybe no. <wrap hide>166|00:18:12|720|00:18:18|220</wrap>So, the astrologer must ascertain the approximate place of the subject upon the path of evolution, <wrap hide>167|00:18:18|240|00:18:22|800</wrap>and <wrap quote>to this end, the study of the rays is most necessary, <wrap hide>168|00:18:23|280|00:18:29|720</wrap>through an investigation as to the quality and characteristics and life objectives.</wrap> <wrap hide>169|00:18:31|520|00:18:41|580</wrap>So, these five books, of which Esoteric Astrology is one, are a five-fold treatise on the seven rays, <wrap hide>170|00:18:42|180|00:18:49|440</wrap>and we cannot separate the study of the deeper type of astrology from the ray energies. <wrap hide>171|00:18:49|740|00:18:57|440</wrap>I mean, we will see horoscopes that have many similarities astrologically, <wrap hide>172|00:18:57|440|00:19:04|360</wrap>but the individuals express marked differences in their orientation and behavior. <wrap hide>173|00:19:05|020|00:19:05|800</wrap>And why is that? <wrap hide>174|00:19:06|620|00:19:09|400</wrap>That is the rays that are involved. <wrap hide>175|00:19:09|520|00:19:15|820</wrap>No matter what the horoscope may be, if the individual is on the ray of the teacher, <wrap hide>176|00:19:16|220|00:19:23|440</wrap>or on the ray of the director or leader, you cannot change those orientations, <wrap hide>177|00:19:23|440|00:19:27|420</wrap>regardless of the chart with which the individual is presented, <wrap hide>178|00:19:27|860|00:19:32|760</wrap>to help that individual move along the path towards that ray objective. <wrap hide>179|00:19:33|400|00:19:42|400</wrap>The soul ray becomes all important, if it can be discerned, and eventually it will be discerned, <wrap hide>180|00:19:42|400|00:19:47|380</wrap>and perhaps easier of discernment for more advanced people is the personality ray, <wrap hide>181|00:19:47|380|00:19:50|140</wrap>and that has to be taken into consideration. <wrap hide>182|00:19:50|140|00:20:00|860</wrap>It's, in a way, a higher order of understanding that we must come into rapport with, <wrap hide>183|00:20:00|980|00:20:06|120</wrap>before we can interpret the astrological chart in the right context. <wrap hide>184|00:20:06|240|00:20:13|340</wrap>I sometimes make the joke, you know, my daughter's horoscope is very similar to Otto von Bismarck. <wrap hide>185|00:20:13|460|00:20:15|720</wrap>They have the Sun, Moon, and Ascendant in the same position. <wrap hide>186|00:20:15|720|00:20:21|240</wrap>Okay. You know, probably some similarities. Even Mercury. <wrap hide>187|00:20:21|840|00:20:26|180</wrap>So, my daughter is on the second ray, and Otto von Bismarck is on the first ray. <wrap hide>188|00:20:26|520|00:20:34|080</wrap>Unless one knows those facts, even a similar horoscope can be misinterpreted, <wrap hide>189|00:20:34|080|00:20:41|380</wrap>because you'll want to go in knowing the ray energies, and you will see then particular planets, <wrap hide>190|00:20:41|380|00:20:49|560</wrap>which are of greater moment, because they are ray rulers, they conduct the ray energy. <wrap hide>191|00:20:50|660|00:20:54|920</wrap>For instance, in the case of Bismarck, you know, one would have to examine very closely <wrap hide>192|00:20:54|920|00:20:58|580</wrap>Vulcan and Pluto, first ray planets. <wrap hide>193|00:20:59|900|00:21:04|660</wrap>And in the case of my daughter, let us say, Jupiter and Venus would be very important, <wrap hide>194|00:21:05|540|00:21:09|700</wrap>conveying in different ways some second ray energy, as well as the Sun. <wrap hide>195|00:21:09|700|00:21:15|960</wrap>So, okay, that's the principle. That's the principle. <wrap hide>196|00:21:16|800|00:21:19|220</wrap>Page 70. Wow, are we making progress. <wrap hide>197|00:21:20|340|00:21:24|980</wrap>I do hope that before long it is possible for us to finish this introduction, <wrap hide>198|00:21:25|660|00:21:30|660</wrap>which has been wide ranging, and which, in the method that I use, <wrap hide>199|00:21:31|620|00:21:38|940</wrap>takes in many other aspects of the teaching to be related to what D.K. says here about astrology. <wrap hide>200|00:21:38|940|00:21:43|480</wrap>I'm making the assumption that many of you have read this astrology book, <wrap hide>201|00:21:44|280|00:21:48|240</wrap>and that you study it, and that you know something about it, <wrap hide>202|00:21:48|480|00:21:55|180</wrap>and I'm trying to correlate other factors in the teaching with what is said about the astrology. <wrap hide>203|00:21:56|000|00:22:00|020</wrap><wrap quote>Astrologers will eventually be able to cast the horoscope of the soul, <wrap hide>204|00:22:00|990|00:22:04|860</wrap>which is sensitive to different combinations of forces, <wrap hide>205|00:22:05|420|00:22:08|380</wrap>to those controlling the personality life.</wrap> <wrap hide>206|00:22:09|200|00:22:11|920</wrap>Well, you know, it looks like a straightforward statement, <wrap hide>207|00:22:12|240|00:22:20|700</wrap>but do we mean the horoscope of the soul in incarnation, <wrap hide>208|00:22:21|280|00:22:24|480</wrap>which is representing that higher consciousness, <wrap hide>209|00:22:25|440|00:22:27|660</wrap>which we call soul consciousness on the higher mental plane, <wrap hide>210|00:22:27|660|00:22:33|680</wrap>or do we mean that the causal body was created at a certain time, <wrap hide>211|00:22:33|820|00:22:38|760</wrap>and under certain aspects, under certain influences, <wrap hide>212|00:22:39|920|00:22:47|900</wrap>and that that creation, the moment of creation of that soul consciousness, <wrap hide>213|00:22:48|920|00:22:56|140</wrap>will somehow have its own horoscope to be compared with the many personality horoscopes. <wrap hide>214|00:22:56|140|00:23:00|040</wrap>And then, you know, on the realm of soul there are many additions that occur. <wrap hide>215|00:23:01|180|00:23:08|080</wrap>Every time you change a root race or a sub-race, the soul may in a way be differently configured. <wrap hide>216|00:23:08|940|00:23:11|320</wrap>There may be a different soul orientation. <wrap hide>217|00:23:12|600|00:23:18|720</wrap>So there is the personality, but there is also the growing consciousness, <wrap hide>218|00:23:19|800|00:23:24|240</wrap>which represents the consciousness on the higher mental plane, <wrap hide>219|00:23:24|240|00:23:32|100</wrap>and that perhaps is the astrology of the soul with which we are dealing. <wrap hide>220|00:23:32|820|00:23:36|320</wrap>One day it may be possible to know the exact moment of individualization, <wrap hide>221|00:23:37|140|00:23:40|220</wrap>which for <wrap quote>those</wrap> who are part of Earth humanity, <wrap hide>222|00:23:40|840|00:23:50|040</wrap>took place over a 5,000-year period, 21 plus million years ago, <wrap hide>223|00:23:50|040|00:23:55|480</wrap>21,688,345. I'm going to memorize that number <wrap hide>224|00:23:55|480|00:23:59|760</wrap>and relate it to the year in which that section was written of Esoteric Astrology. <wrap hide>225|00:24:01|400|00:24:03|740</wrap>But some of us were individualized on the Moon chain. <wrap hide>226|00:24:03|880|00:24:05|520</wrap>What was the moment of individualization? <wrap hide>227|00:24:05|680|00:24:13|220</wrap>What were the astrological aspects prevalent at the moment we could say we became a human being? <wrap hide>228|00:24:13|700|00:24:17|300</wrap>Maybe some of us were individualized in the previous solar system, <wrap hide>229|00:24:17|300|00:24:25|500</wrap>and how in the world would we be able to understand the egoic nature as developed at that time? <wrap hide>230|00:24:26|240|00:24:34|320</wrap>So this simple statement, "the horoscope of the soul," is subject to various interpretations, <wrap hide>231|00:24:34|960|00:24:44|080</wrap>and some of the less remote and more present interpretations may be more useful. <wrap hide>232|00:24:44|080|00:24:57|680</wrap>It can be, in a way, the inner directive for the indwelling consciousness during any particular incarnation; <wrap hide>233|00:24:58|000|00:24:59|460</wrap>we may call that the soul. <wrap hide>234|00:25:00|020|00:25:06|700</wrap>Anyway, different combinations of forces can be applied to the life of consciousness, <wrap hide>235|00:25:07|000|00:25:10|780</wrap>the wheel of consciousness, or to the wheel of form, <wrap hide>236|00:25:10|780|00:25:17|480</wrap>which is the wheel of the personality, and we have to learn what those combinations are. <wrap hide>237|00:25:18|840|00:25:30|320</wrap>The disciple and the initiate respond distinctively to the incoming influence in a distinct manner— <wrap hide>238|00:25:32|140|00:25:35|260</wrap>a discernible manner to the incoming influences, <wrap hide>239|00:25:35|260|00:25:43|760</wrap>and their response differs from that of the undeveloped man, or later the self-centered person. <wrap hide>240|00:25:45|260|00:25:53|220</wrap>The true personality thinks of itself pretty much as the center of its field of perception, <wrap hide>241|00:25:53|580|00:25:55|320</wrap>the center of the world in a way. <wrap hide>242|00:25:55|940|00:25:58|940</wrap>The undeveloped man has a consciousness much more diffuse, <wrap hide>243|00:25:58|940|00:26:07|280</wrap>but in any case, the disciple's response will be altogether higher to the incoming energies, <wrap hide>244|00:26:07|660|00:26:13|780</wrap>and it will affect areas of his energy system and chakras which are not affected, <wrap hide>245|00:26:14|660|00:26:21|680</wrap>as those same energies impact the undeveloped man and the self-centered person— <wrap hide>246|00:26:22|200|00:26:25|420</wrap>the energy systems of the undeveloped man or self-centered person. <wrap hide>247|00:26:25|420|00:26:28|440</wrap>This will have to be recognized. <wrap hide>248|00:26:29|060|00:26:32|180</wrap>So astrology, you see, becomes much more complex. <wrap hide>249|00:26:32|360|00:26:37|680</wrap>It's not as if you could pick up a horoscope and only know that you're dealing with a human being, <wrap hide>250|00:26:38|340|00:26:45|000</wrap>and then begin to accurately read the life of such a human being. <wrap hide>251|00:26:45|100|00:26:51|660</wrap>You really have to come en rapport, and when we're thinking about the healing, <wrap hide>252|00:26:51|660|00:26:59|100</wrap>the work of the healer, D.K. is saying, "Well, spend five hours in quiet thought <wrap hide>253|00:27:00|600|00:27:04|760</wrap>concerning the subject with whom you are to engage in the healing process." <wrap hide>254|00:27:04|980|00:27:14|060</wrap>And I sometimes think if we had the time, that would be ideal—time ideally spent <wrap hide>255|00:27:15|600|00:27:19|440</wrap>for those with whom we're going to come en rapport in the astrological sense, <wrap hide>256|00:27:19|440|00:27:27|640</wrap>because after all, we are engaged in a way in psychological healing and reorientation. <wrap hide>257|00:27:28|700|00:27:35|500</wrap>So some patience will be required. This is a very hectic time of human civilization. <wrap hide>258|00:27:35|720|00:27:40|020</wrap>There are great cross-currents and competing energies, <wrap hide>259|00:27:40|020|00:27:54|360</wrap>and man's life in the West and even in the East now is very upset, very disturbed and agitated. <wrap hide>260|00:27:55|040|00:28:01|500</wrap>And it is difficult to come en rapport with the deeper energy patterns in such environments, <wrap hide>261|00:28:01|560|00:28:09|000</wrap>but that will give way eventually to the promised period of peace and deeper sensitivity— <wrap hide>262|00:28:09|000|00:28:11|760</wrap>I would assume accompanying the peace. <wrap hide>263|00:28:14|920|00:28:19|940</wrap>So the disciple will respond in a certain way and initiate in a certain way, <wrap hide>264|00:28:20|020|00:28:22|560</wrap>and so will the undeveloped man and self-centered person. <wrap hide>265|00:28:23|320|00:28:27|620</wrap>This will have to be recognized and we have to know for whom we are reading. <wrap hide>266|00:28:28|640|00:28:30|460</wrap>So let me just put that down. <wrap hide>267|00:28:32|580|00:28:36|420</wrap>We must know for whom we are reading. <wrap hide>268|00:28:37|420|00:28:45|100</wrap>Those <wrap quote>who live below the diaphragm, and</wrap> those who—what does that mean really? <wrap hide>269|00:28:45|620|00:28:53|900</wrap>They react; their consciousness is filled with recognition of and response to the impulses <wrap hide>270|00:28:53|900|00:28:59|140</wrap>which come from the chakras and organs below the diaphragm. <wrap hide>271|00:28:59|180|00:29:01|500</wrap>That's what it means to live below the diaphragm. <wrap hide>272|00:29:01|500|00:29:08|780</wrap>We all have our chakric energies below the diaphragm, but where is our consciousness focused? <wrap hide>273|00:29:08|980|00:29:09|940</wrap>That's the question. <wrap hide>274|00:29:11|680|00:29:18|960</wrap>Those who live below the diaphragm and <wrap quote>who react to the incoming energies through the medium of the lower centers, <wrap hide>275|00:29:20|140|00:29:24|400</wrap>so the plexus, sacral, spleen, and base of the spine, <wrap hide>276|00:29:24|940|00:29:30|460</wrap>will have a very different type of chart to</wrap> that of the disciple or initiate. <wrap hide>277|00:29:31|360|00:29:38|220</wrap>Well, at least when we go in there, we will certainly, even if the chart looks the same in some cases, <wrap hide>278|00:29:38|960|00:29:42|640</wrap>we will be emphasizing different factors. <wrap hide>279|00:29:44|000|00:29:48|620</wrap>And different patterns will emerge and different triangles will be of importance, <wrap hide>280|00:29:48|840|00:29:51|500</wrap>and the sun sign more so than the rising sign. <wrap hide>281|00:29:52|140|00:29:58|600</wrap><wrap quote>It will require a different mode of interpretation</wrap> using the ordinary rulers <wrap hide>282|00:29:58|600|00:30:01|040</wrap>rather than the esoteric or hierarchical rulers. <wrap hide>283|00:30:01|260|00:30:07|480</wrap>And he says, <wrap quote>"I have referred to this before and would remind you of some of the points which I made."</wrap> <wrap hide>284|00:30:08|660|00:30:16|040</wrap>It does serve us to be reminded of these points, and we need the specific examples, <wrap hide>285|00:30:17|880|00:30:21|760</wrap>probably in this particular interpretation of esoteric astrology. <wrap hide>286|00:30:23|740|00:30:30|500</wrap>Using the book in the way I am, I'm not going to get into the details of astrological interpretation <wrap hide>287|00:30:30|500|00:30:36|280</wrap>in the same way as some of my colleagues are doing, and they're doing very well. <wrap hide>288|00:30:37|040|00:30:41|080</wrap>Maybe we'll see if time allows; that might be possible. <wrap hide>289|00:30:41|160|00:30:49|160</wrap>But I think there is a need to think very carefully, paragraph by paragraph, line by line, word by word, <wrap hide>290|00:30:49|160|00:30:51|940</wrap>over what the Tibetan has said. <wrap hide>291|00:30:52|300|00:30:59|340</wrap>We must ponder together on what he is trying to convey to us <wrap hide>292|00:30:59|340|00:31:08|260</wrap>so that at least the major outlines of this great science come clearer to us. <wrap hide>293|00:31:08|360|00:31:16|560</wrap>And then all the many detailed points of interpretation can be dealt with in specific contexts. <wrap hide>294|00:31:16|560|00:31:20|000</wrap>I enjoy doing it too, but time is of the essence. <wrap hide>295|00:31:21|200|00:31:23|260</wrap>So anyway, D.K. made these points. <wrap hide>296|00:31:23|800|00:31:28|860</wrap>Disciples upon the path of discipleship, and some have said in this regard, <wrap hide>297|00:31:29|000|00:31:32|720</wrap>accepted discipleship, are strongly influenced by Mercury and Saturn. <wrap hide>298|00:31:33|640|00:31:37|780</wrap>One bringing illumination, that's Mercury, and the other offering opportunity. <wrap hide>299|00:31:37|780|00:31:46|060</wrap>Well, Saturn doesn't offer the kind of opportunity to have every whim and every casual desire fulfilled. <wrap hide>300|00:31:47|480|00:31:58|680</wrap>The kind of opportunity is to face those circumstances and overcome those conditions <wrap hide>301|00:31:58|680|00:32:04|700</wrap>which prevent a fuller soul infusion. <wrap hide>302|00:32:05|460|00:32:14|260</wrap>It's really an opportunity to move upon the path by facing the karmic and dharmic difficulties which must be overcome. <wrap hide>303|00:32:15|260|00:32:21|080</wrap>So disciples upon the path of discipleship are strongly influenced by two quite mental planets, Mercury and Saturn, <wrap hide>304|00:32:21|120|00:32:25|840</wrap>and that's why it really has to be the path of discipleship, <wrap hide>305|00:32:26|240|00:32:31|160</wrap>not so much the path of probationary discipleship or the path of aspiration, <wrap hide>306|00:32:31|160|00:32:39|720</wrap>where we are still quite astrally focused and fighting many battles in relation to our desire nature. <wrap hide>307|00:32:39|920|00:32:47|560</wrap>Once our mind, in which the will is focused, has begun to be our main instrument, <wrap hide>308|00:32:48|280|00:32:55|400</wrap>then Mercury and Saturn will be of real value, critical value to the disciple. <wrap hide>309|00:32:55|400|00:33:02|380</wrap>And some have said that this only happens really on the path of accepted discipleship, <wrap hide>310|00:33:02|500|00:33:09|980</wrap>which can occur, and I think usually does occur, somewhere from the middle of the period <wrap hide>311|00:33:09|980|00:33:16|300</wrap>between the first and second initiation onward towards the second initiation, <wrap hide>312|00:33:16|360|00:33:20|040</wrap>and maybe even to some extent after the second initiation. <wrap hide>313|00:33:20|040|00:33:26|640</wrap>One can make much progress initiatorily without necessarily being an accepted disciple, <wrap hide>314|00:33:27|220|00:33:34|360</wrap>which is a relationship that has to do with your particular karmic relationship to a master. <wrap hide>315|00:33:35|760|00:33:37|340</wrap>So D.K. does differentiate there. <wrap hide>316|00:33:38|580|00:33:40|460</wrap>Okay, here are the points he has made. <wrap hide>317|00:33:42|100|00:33:43|620</wrap>Mercury and Saturn are influential. <wrap hide>318|00:33:44|560|00:33:52|520</wrap>And number two, <wrap quote>at the various initiations, the influence of the planets affects the candidate, <wrap hide>319|00:33:52|840|00:33:58|120</wrap>the candidate to initiation, in a totally different manner than earlier.</wrap> <wrap hide>320|00:33:58|820|00:34:04|520</wrap>Within a planet, our entire range of possibilities and qualities, and not all of them get through. <wrap hide>321|00:34:04|920|00:34:11|740</wrap>It all depends on the sensitivity of the form nature, the responsiveness. <wrap hide>322|00:34:11|740|00:34:19|140</wrap><wrap quote>Cyclically, the energies from the constellations pour through the planetary</wrap> centers. <wrap hide>323|00:34:19|440|00:34:27|260</wrap>We've talked about them; there are continents, there are cities, there are kingdoms, <wrap hide>324|00:34:28|520|00:34:39|720</wrap>and there are chakras located on the etheric planes, which can also be considered planetary centers. <wrap hide>325|00:34:41|380|00:34:48|520</wrap>Okay, at the first initiation, these are important ideas here, <wrap hide>326|00:34:49|100|00:34:54|120</wrap>and ones which are often reviewed in esoteric astrology classes. <wrap hide>327|00:34:54|640|00:35:03|880</wrap><wrap quote>At the first initiation, the disciple has to contend with the crystallizing and destroying forces of Vulcan and Pluto.</wrap> <wrap hide>328|00:35:04|160|00:35:09|520</wrap>Vulcan particularly crystallizes and thereby sets up the possibility of shattering, <wrap hide>329|00:35:09|520|00:35:14|860</wrap>and Pluto is very much the destroyer aspect of the first ray. <wrap hide>330|00:35:15|140|00:35:18|200</wrap>Vulcan: a sacred planet. Pluto: a non-sacred planet. <wrap hide>331|00:35:18|960|00:35:24|500</wrap>The influence of Vulcan, which can be symbolized in a way by the downward pointing arrow, <wrap hide>332|00:35:27|120|00:35:29|600</wrap>which has kind of a V in it—V for Vulcan— <wrap hide>333|00:35:30|720|00:35:34|880</wrap>the influence of Vulcan reaches to the very depths of the nature. <wrap hide>334|00:35:35|870|00:35:47|900</wrap>The soul seeks to permeate deeply, and the will descends into the depths, so nothing is left untouched, <wrap hide>335|00:35:47|900|00:35:55|340</wrap>while Pluto, a planetary influence which is used to operate in the depths, <wrap hide>336|00:35:55|880|00:36:01|060</wrap><wrap quote>drags to the surface and destroys all that hinders in these lower regions.</wrap> <wrap hide>337|00:36:01|060|00:36:06|460</wrap>There are many things in the lower part of our aura which are unredeemed. <wrap hide>338|00:36:06|640|00:36:13|080</wrap>You know, if you look at the aura egg, there's kind of a blackish-brown layer down there of unredeemed sludge— <wrap hide>339|00:36:13|720|00:36:15|980</wrap>stuff that just hasn't been dealt with. <wrap hide>340|00:36:16|700|00:36:20|260</wrap>And it's very interesting how Pluto throws things in your face, you know. <wrap hide>341|00:36:20|780|00:36:29|700</wrap>When it is said that "the truth will out," we're talking very much, I think, about the influence of Pluto. <wrap hide>342|00:36:29|700|00:36:39|040</wrap>Under Scorpionic circumstances, one can suppress information and truth and keep things concealed, <wrap hide>343|00:36:39|160|00:36:45|740</wrap>but there always comes a time under Scorpio and Pluto when that which is concealed rises to the light, <wrap hide>344|00:36:46|940|00:36:52|380</wrap>despite what anyone tries to do to keep it hidden. <wrap hide>345|00:36:53|300|00:37:05|500</wrap>So, we cannot go into the Chamber of Initiation with our aura filled with all kinds of unsuspected, unresolved issues. <wrap hide>346|00:37:06|220|00:37:16|420</wrap>Those issues in the psychologist's office often come to the surface, or when you're talking to friends or people close to you, <wrap hide>347|00:37:16|420|00:37:23|880</wrap>many things long hidden are evoked and brought into the light of day. <wrap hide>348|00:37:24|240|00:37:33|560</wrap>And the light of day, interestingly, is that type of light which is particularly related to Scorpio, <wrap hide>349|00:37:33|700|00:37:37|340</wrap>of which Pluto is one of the rulers. <wrap hide>350|00:37:38|460|00:37:44|100</wrap>So, you know, we're drilling down; we descend into the depths through Vulcan. <wrap hide>351|00:37:44|980|00:37:51|720</wrap>We have that will to penetrate to the depths so that the highest and the lowest can meet, <wrap hide>352|00:37:51|800|00:37:58|100</wrap>and there, by that active will to penetrate, we find obstructions. <wrap hide>353|00:37:59|660|00:38:06|160</wrap>And the obstructions cannot be left there; they have to be destroyed or reconfigured or integrated. <wrap hide>354|00:38:06|160|00:38:14|100</wrap>They have to be made a part of the system; otherwise, a person remains as a non-integrated personality <wrap hide>355|00:38:14|100|00:38:16|280</wrap>who cannot really undergo initiation. <wrap hide>356|00:38:16|880|00:38:21|800</wrap>So this happens at the first initiation, and I want to say, as I think about it, <wrap hide>357|00:38:23|020|00:38:27|980</wrap>that Vulcan and Pluto are active at quite a number of initiations. <wrap hide>358|00:38:29|440|00:38:34|740</wrap>They are both active at the second and the third, I believe, and at the fourth especially. <wrap hide>359|00:38:35|580|00:38:46|680</wrap>And even at the fifth, so the combination of these two first ray energies finds their way into a number of initiations. <wrap hide>360|00:38:46|940|00:38:50|620</wrap>You know, at the second initiation, will power takes over from desire, <wrap hide>361|00:38:51|240|00:38:56|700</wrap>and there is a cleansing and purging of the astral body under Pluto, but will over desire is Vulcan. <wrap hide>362|00:38:57|660|00:39:01|860</wrap>And at the third initiation, the blinding light of Vulcan breaks forth, <wrap hide>363|00:39:01|860|00:39:11|940</wrap>as Saint Paul experienced, and the Kundalini begins to rise, and that is related to Pluto. <wrap hide>364|00:39:12|660|00:39:19|840</wrap>The ancient authority of the personality is broken; the will power comes in very strongly, <wrap hide>365|00:39:20|480|00:39:24|960</wrap>and the depths are lifted up into the heights of the mountain top. <wrap hide>366|00:39:25|040|00:39:26|780</wrap>Everything is lifted up to the mountain top. <wrap hide>367|00:39:26|780|00:39:31|020</wrap>At the fourth initiation, the depths of aloneness are experienced, <wrap hide>368|00:39:32|700|00:39:38|060</wrap>and you know, the disciple at that time is in a way between a rock and a hard place. <wrap hide>369|00:39:38|680|00:39:41|660</wrap>This is the language of Vulcan. <wrap hide>370|00:39:41|860|00:39:48|240</wrap>You're coming in touch with the mineral kingdom; the jewel and the lotus, ruled by Vulcan, is being revealed. <wrap hide>371|00:39:49|960|00:39:53|520</wrap>The will to love is extremely strong. <wrap hide>372|00:39:54|020|00:39:57|380</wrap>The heart of the sun is coming in, and Vulcan is connected with that. <wrap hide>373|00:39:57|760|00:40:07|020</wrap>Vulcan has a number of different relationships, depending upon which of Vulcan's rays you may be considering. <wrap hide>374|00:40:08|700|00:40:15|920</wrap>So, Vulcan places the individual in a state of great aloneness, where he must depend upon his own will power. <wrap hide>375|00:40:16|040|00:40:21|740</wrap>And of course, Pluto is the power of death, and at that point, the personality is put to death, <wrap hide>376|00:40:21|740|00:40:28|020</wrap>and also the causal body is put to death, and Vulcan also contributes to the shattering of the causal body. <wrap hide>377|00:40:28|880|00:40:33|860</wrap>And when we come to the fifth initiation, that's the time when the base of the spine center, <wrap hide>378|00:40:35|140|00:40:41|320</wrap>Perhaps in a Maya Verrupa, but not necessarily, is most potently activated. <wrap hide>379|00:40:41|480|00:40:48|000</wrap>And Pluto rules this base of the spine center, and the rising of it, of its energy as Kundalini, <wrap hide>380|00:40:48|000|00:40:56|080</wrap>all the way to the highest head center, often ruled by Vulcan, and being a center of purpose. <wrap hide>381|00:40:57|080|00:41:01|860</wrap>The seven head centers are activated, the two higher head centers are activated, <wrap hide>382|00:41:02|080|00:41:08|140</wrap>Vulcan is involved in this, and this is mastership when the sun blazes forth, <wrap hide>383|00:41:08|420|00:41:13|740</wrap>and so often it is Vulcan that is veiled by the sun. <wrap hide>384|00:41:13|740|00:41:22|500</wrap>And so I think I have demonstrated in kind of a quick review how the combination of Vulcan and Pluto <wrap hide>385|00:41:22|500|00:41:30|180</wrap>are found at all the five initiations leading to and including mastership. <wrap hide>386|00:41:31|940|00:41:39|540</wrap><wrap quote>At the second initiation, the candidate comes under the influence of three planets: <wrap hide>387|00:41:40|600|00:41:43|340</wrap>Neptune, Venus, and Jupiter. <wrap hide>1|00:00:03|300|00:00:08|280</wrap>The three centers, the solar plexus, the heart and throat are actively involved.</wrap> <wrap hide>389|00:41:50|740|00:41:54|520</wrap>Yeah, it's been questioned, you know, what is stimulated at the first degree, <wrap hide>390|00:41:54|660|00:41:57|700</wrap>what is stimulated at the second degree by the one initiator, <wrap hide>391|00:41:57|740|00:42:06|260</wrap>and I would have to say that both the heart and throat are stimulated at both of these initiations. <wrap hide>392|00:42:06|260|00:42:14|200</wrap>Perhaps the birth of the Christ within the heart signals the importance of the heart center at the first initiation, <wrap hide>393|00:42:14|860|00:42:20|740</wrap>but the throat towards which the sacral energy has been raised is also of great importance. <wrap hide>394|00:42:22|560|00:42:28|420</wrap>At the second initiation, the throat center is very important because we have an intelligent disciple, <wrap hide>395|00:42:29|600|00:42:37|140</wrap>we have the spiritual intelligence and a degree of mental illumination that's related to the throat, <wrap hide>396|00:42:37|200|00:42:46|360</wrap>but we're dealing with a heart center activation because the astral body is no longer so full of personal desire. <wrap hide>397|00:42:46|580|00:42:53|100</wrap>We have a death of personal desire and love energy infusing the heart, <wrap hide>398|00:42:53|220|00:42:56|560</wrap>so therefore the heart center is active at the second initiation. <wrap hide>399|00:42:56|560|00:43:03|980</wrap>In this particular case, Neptune is ruling the solar plexus because it's a sixth-ray planet <wrap hide>400|00:43:03|980|00:43:07|460</wrap>and its second-ray nature is not considered in this context. <wrap hide>401|00:43:08|120|00:43:13|860</wrap>So these are the three. Much transfer of solar plexus to heart at the second degree <wrap hide>402|00:43:13|860|00:43:19|220</wrap>and much intelligent expression through the throat is involved. <wrap hide>403|00:43:19|220|00:43:26|480</wrap>It's not the full mental polarization which occurs between the second degree and the third, <wrap hide>404|00:43:26|720|00:43:34|120</wrap>midway between we are told, but it is at least a strong spiritual intelligence. <wrap hide>405|00:43:34|860|00:43:44|220</wrap>Now there is a place in Esoteric Psychology One, if I can find it, which deals... <wrap hide>406|00:43:45|080|00:43:50|020</wrap>Whoopsie, that's not what I wanted. Okay, now I'm going to have to try that again. <wrap hide>407|00:43:51|560|00:44:01|900</wrap>Right, what I want to do, I want the machine to respond here, yes, it's coming in its own good time, <wrap hide>408|00:44:02|900|00:44:14|220</wrap>Esoteric Psychology, and it will be Venus, Jupiter, and Neptune. <wrap hide>409|00:44:15|780|00:44:17|320</wrap>I'll spell that correctly. <wrap hide>410|00:44:19|760|00:44:25|720</wrap>Venus, Jupiter, let's just see, Venus and Jupiter, perhaps we'll find something there. <wrap hide>411|00:44:26|820|00:44:32|520</wrap>Venus and Jupiter in relation to the vegetable kingdom, and here it is. <wrap hide>412|00:44:33|200|00:44:35|740</wrap>This is page 246. <wrap hide>413|00:44:37|220|00:44:47|400</wrap>What we have, the second initiation, the training for the second initiation brings him under Neptunian influences, <wrap hide>414|00:44:47|540|00:44:48|960</wrap>that's why I couldn't find it under Neptune, <wrap hide>415|00:44:50|080|00:44:56|880</wrap>Neptunian influences, with Jupiter and Venus contending for control. <wrap hide>416|00:44:57|980|00:45:08|160</wrap>That is very interesting, because normally we think of these two quite second ray planets as quite cooperative with each other, <wrap hide>417|00:45:08|180|00:45:15|580</wrap>and in certain ways they may be, but in the ancient mythology, that which emanated from Venus, <wrap hide>418|00:45:15|580|00:45:29|280</wrap>and that which emanated from Jupiter, were fighting, and Venus was trying to raise the individual into the angelic state, <wrap hide>419|00:45:29|420|00:45:36|280</wrap>a more celibate state, and Jupiter was calling for the worship of the ancestral gods. <wrap hide>420|00:45:36|480|00:45:44|080</wrap>After all, Jupiter is exalted in the sign Cancer, which rules the four lunar vehicles, <wrap hide>421|00:45:44|080|00:45:50|820</wrap>the three major vehicles and the personality considered as the synthesis of all of them, the personality elemental. <wrap hide>422|00:45:51|680|00:46:03|280</wrap>So, he doesn't much say what this contending between them may be, whether they're fighting with each other, <wrap hide>423|00:46:03|340|00:46:12|380</wrap>or they're somehow trying to elevate Neptune, but let's just say there's a lot of second ray and sixth ray connected with all of these planets. <wrap hide>424|00:46:13|360|00:46:16|640</wrap>Neptune, a sixth ray soul and second ray monad. <wrap hide>425|00:46:16|740|00:46:27|360</wrap>Venus, a sixth ray sub-monad, and a second ray as the major monadic ray, I do believe, with maybe a second ray personality. <wrap hide>426|00:46:27|840|00:46:35|760</wrap>Jupiter, a second ray soul, and we might question the degree to which the sixth ray may be involved in its personality expression. <wrap hide>427|00:46:36|760|00:46:38|460</wrap>Sixth and seventh ray are both involved with Jupiter. <wrap hide>428|00:46:38|460|00:46:44|740</wrap>So, this is the other reference, then, concerning the second initiation. <wrap hide>429|00:46:47|840|00:46:55|880</wrap>Neptune will be the solar plexus. It has to be raised up to the heart, which I think will be ruled by Jupiter in this particular case. <wrap hide>430|00:46:56|900|00:47:03|100</wrap>So, a wider type of love will be required, and a wiser type of love as well. <wrap hide>431|00:47:03|100|00:47:11|340</wrap>And Venus will work on the illumination of the mind, and will represent the throat center in this particular case. <wrap hide>432|00:47:12|280|00:47:17|920</wrap>After all, Taurus does work through the throat center, and Venus is the ruler of Taurus. <wrap hide>433|00:47:18|060|00:47:25|120</wrap>So, Venus, we must say, relates to the throat center, and especially to the power to speak the word of the soul, <wrap hide>434|00:47:25|260|00:47:29|960</wrap>and to think the word of the soul, because Venus is relating to the solar angel. <wrap hide>435|00:47:29|960|00:47:37|320</wrap>So, the solar angel is beginning to imbue the intelligence at the second initiation, and this is Venus' task. <wrap hide>436|00:47:37|740|00:47:43|600</wrap>As well, it helps to tranquilize the astral vehicle. <wrap hide>437|00:47:44|760|00:47:50|240</wrap>You know, so, obviously we have to go on a search sometimes for other correlated references. <wrap hide>438|00:47:50|360|00:47:58|080</wrap>As a matter of fact, what I think I'll do is I'll copy this from Esoteric Astrology 246, <wrap hide>439|00:47:58|080|00:48:06|980</wrap>and I'll put it here, next to this quotation. We'll do it that way. <wrap hide>440|00:48:07|680|00:48:19|280</wrap>And that's EA 246. Of course, I should, in a way, make it red so it stands out from the others. <wrap hide>441|00:48:20|380|00:48:30|240</wrap>Okay, let's see if I can put this back in this way, too. Okay. And we'll do it that way. Yeah. <wrap hide>442|00:48:31|620|00:48:41|120</wrap>So, second initiation: many second and sixth ray planets. The changing of the character of the astral body is required. <wrap hide>443|00:48:41|120|00:48:48|300</wrap>And these planets are particularly suitable to bring tranquility to the astral body, <wrap hide>444|00:48:49|840|00:48:56|120</wrap>to bring the... make us subject to the light of the soul-illumined mind under Venus, <wrap hide>445|00:48:56|340|00:49:06|260</wrap>and to bring in that larger type of non-exclusive, or rather inclusive love that Jupiter brings. <wrap hide>446|00:49:06|260|00:49:14|460</wrap>Those are qualities of the second initiation. Then we go on here, at the third initiation. <wrap hide>447|00:49:16|180|00:49:27|660</wrap>So important, this page 70 and 71. I have reviewed this page so often, trying to fathom what is being said here. <wrap hide>448|00:49:27|660|00:49:35|900</wrap><wrap quote>At the third initiation, the moon, veiling a hidden planet, and Mars bring about a fearful conflict. <wrap hide>449|00:49:36|480|00:49:42|180</wrap>But at the end, the man is released from personality control.</wrap> Well, you know, Mars and Pluto are also active <wrap hide>450|00:49:42|180|00:49:48|120</wrap>in stirring things up at the second initiation. Those are things to be overcome. <wrap hide>451|00:49:48|120|00:49:58|300</wrap>But here they bring in a type of fear which probably arises... in this case I think it's Mars and Vulcan... <wrap hide>452|00:49:58|920|00:50:05|440</wrap>a type of fear that arises when we think of relinquishing the entire personality, <wrap hide>453|00:50:05|920|00:50:10|320</wrap>or at least living in a different center which we would call the soul center. <wrap hide>454|00:50:10|840|00:50:16|120</wrap>We do not yet relinquish the entire personality until the fourth degree, <wrap hide>455|00:50:16|120|00:50:23|160</wrap>but already we're seeing the handwriting on the wall. It says that the moon veils a hidden planet. <wrap hide>456|00:50:24|020|00:50:27|880</wrap>Well, you know, the moon can veil Uranus, or the moon can veil Neptune, or Vulcan, <wrap hide>457|00:50:28|320|00:50:33|540</wrap>but Uranus and Neptune are not hidden, and Vulcan is hidden. <wrap hide>458|00:50:34|060|00:50:39|740</wrap>So I do believe that it's kind of a combination between the moon and the sun at this point, <wrap hide>459|00:50:39|740|00:50:44|800</wrap>with Vulcan representing the sun, and the sun representing the soul. <wrap hide>460|00:50:45|060|00:50:52|340</wrap>So it's a kind of a merging of the personality and soul. Okay, degraded audio. <wrap hide>461|00:50:52|820|00:50:58|800</wrap>Alright, hopefully not. I will just continue the best I can as there's nothing else I can do, <wrap hide>462|00:50:59|660|00:51:03|120</wrap>except to find out that I've been moving my mouth and nothing has been coming out. <wrap hide>463|00:51:03|240|00:51:04|380</wrap>But hopefully that won't happen. <wrap hide>464|00:51:05|700|00:51:15|940</wrap>So, at the third initiation, the dominating soul life, symbolized by the sun, which is expressing Vulcan, <wrap hide>465|00:51:17|640|00:51:23|400</wrap>is brought into juxtaposition with the moon, representing the entire... all the lunar vehicles, <wrap hide>466|00:51:23|680|00:51:30|020</wrap>and in a way the lunar vehicles must be infused by the energy of the solar sun, <wrap hide>467|00:51:30|100|00:51:32|340</wrap>so we call that the soul-infused personality. <wrap hide>468|00:51:34|040|00:51:40|640</wrap>So, in a way, on the top we have a combination of the sun, Venus, which is the hierarchical ruler <wrap hide>469|00:51:40|640|00:51:44|960</wrap>at the third initiation in Capricorn: sun, Venus, and Vulcan on the top. <wrap hide>470|00:51:45|600|00:51:52|600</wrap>And then we have the moon on the bottom to be infused and controlled, directed and dominated by these energies. <wrap hide>471|00:51:53|360|00:51:59|600</wrap>And the moon and Mars represent the lunar vehicles, and the six creative hierarchies. <wrap hide>472|00:51:59|600|00:52:03|960</wrap>So the six creative hierarchies undergoing a very specific change at that time. <wrap hide>473|00:52:04|100|00:52:06|360</wrap>It is really finally dominated. <wrap hide>474|00:52:07|080|00:52:12|200</wrap>The moon represents all the lunar vehicles, all of them, and that is the dense physical. <wrap hide>475|00:52:12|640|00:52:20|360</wrap>It's related to the etheric and to the color violet, because those devas of the etheric planes, <wrap hide>476|00:52:20|560|00:52:24|240</wrap>They have a moon on their forehead, which also means they have a forehead, which is interesting. <wrap hide>477|00:52:24|240|00:52:31|080</wrap>The moon is obviously the astral nature, and the moon is the sensorium, the concrete mind. <wrap hide>478|00:52:31|220|00:52:36|700</wrap>So the moon is all four, and interestingly, Mars is all four of the lunar vehicles. <wrap hide>479|00:52:37|420|00:52:42|280</wrap>It is the dense physical body. It's not particularly related to the etheric body. <wrap hide>480|00:52:42|460|00:52:49|060</wrap>It is absolutely the astral body, and it is the lower mind, because it rules concrete science and the five senses. <wrap hide>481|00:52:49|060|00:52:56|000</wrap>So the entire personality, which is symbolized by moon and Mars, is being dominated by the luminous will <wrap hide>482|00:52:56|000|00:53:00|980</wrap>of Vulcan with the sun, and Venus also associated. <wrap hide>483|00:53:02|180|00:53:11|600</wrap>And that conflict, of course, is letting go, letting go of the grip of consciousness upon the personality. <wrap hide>484|00:53:12|680|00:53:17|880</wrap>There's a way in which we are so attached to our elemental life. <wrap hide>485|00:53:18|600|00:53:25|180</wrap>It is, in a sense, the not-self, but we consider it the self, and we're not willing to let go of it. <wrap hide>486|00:53:25|620|00:53:35|540</wrap>So the disciple is rising and falling and rising and falling, symbolized in the ancient Atlantean chant <wrap hide>487|00:53:36|540|00:53:40|460</wrap>by the bird which tries to fly free but always comes back to the branch. <wrap hide>488|00:53:40|600|00:53:46|520</wrap>And that also describes, in a way, the glyph of Aquarius, rising and falling, rising and falling, <wrap hide>489|00:53:46|520|00:53:51|400</wrap>with Aquarius prominent at the third initiation. <wrap hide>490|00:53:51|760|00:54:02|700</wrap>But anyway, when we've managed to use the, to overcome Mars and make him our servant, <wrap hide>491|00:54:03|380|00:54:10|500</wrap>a good soldier of brave, valorous personality, make it our servant, we being the spiritual will. <wrap hide>492|00:54:10|500|00:54:19|620</wrap>Vulcan is the spiritual will, and it overcomes all aspects of lower desire, desire for the lower realm. <wrap hide>493|00:54:19|860|00:54:26|300</wrap>So there's another conflict here between will and desire, just as there was in the second initiation, <wrap hide>494|00:54:26|520|00:54:32|940</wrap>a conflict between will and desire, and that's when will really begins to take over at that second initiation. <wrap hide>495|00:54:33|600|00:54:40|020</wrap>So at the end we are released from personality control, which would normally come under the impulses of Mars. <wrap hide>496|00:54:40|700|00:54:47|160</wrap>We no longer follow those impulses; we no longer run with what the lunar vehicles indicate. <wrap hide>497|00:54:50|780|00:54:55|260</wrap>Okay, now at the fourth initiation, we visit Mercury and Saturn again. <wrap hide>498|00:54:55|260|00:55:06|500</wrap>This is different from the way Mercury and Saturn operated on the path simply of discipleship or accepted discipleship. <wrap hide>499|00:55:06|600|00:55:13|580</wrap>It's a higher type of expression. We're no longer dealing with discrimination per se, <wrap hide>500|00:55:14|900|00:55:18|240</wrap>well, what he calls it illumination and opportunity. <wrap hide>501|00:55:18|280|00:55:23|260</wrap>We're not dealing quite with the same things, but with higher expressions, which I'll try to explain. <wrap hide>502|00:55:23|260|00:55:30|960</wrap>At the fourth initiation, <wrap quote>Mercury and Saturn again bring about great changes and a unique revelation,</wrap> <wrap hide>503|00:55:32|680|00:55:39|040</wrap>I suppose the revelation of the cosmic ethers, and the revelation of the transcendental mind. <wrap hide>504|00:55:39|580|00:55:42|500</wrap><wrap quote>But their effect is very different to the earlier experience.</wrap> <wrap hide>505|00:55:42|740|00:55:48|160</wrap>So, as a disciple we have a discriminating mind, we are seeking the light, we are facing our karma, <wrap hide>506|00:55:48|180|00:55:51|240</wrap>all of that is Mercury and Saturn fulfilling our dharma. <wrap hide>507|00:55:51|240|00:56:00|480</wrap>But here, Mercury is the Buddhic plane, and Saturn represents all of the lower three planes, <wrap hide>508|00:56:00|740|00:56:05|300</wrap>the dense physical nature, and it represents the complete fulfillment of the dharma, <wrap hide>509|00:56:05|740|00:56:11|820</wrap>and the using of the scythe to separate the essential inner man. <wrap hide>510|00:56:11|820|00:56:22|180</wrap>Saturn has that cutting motion; it separates the realm of Uranus from its own lower realm, Saturn. <wrap hide>511|00:56:22|880|00:56:29|200</wrap>So Mercury is bringing in the illumination of the spiritual triad from the Buddhic plane, <wrap hide>512|00:56:29|360|00:56:37|620</wrap>which correlates with the fourth initiation. Fourth plane, fourth initiation, man is released into the transcendental mind, <wrap hide>513|00:56:37|620|00:56:46|180</wrap>the intuition of the spiritual triad, and of the Buddhic plane, and that comes under Mercury, <wrap hide>514|00:56:46|500|00:56:51|500</wrap>a higher type of illumination. It's no longer the sun of mind, no longer the concrete mind, <wrap hide>515|00:56:51|780|00:57:02|920</wrap>it's not even the abstract mind. It is the intuitive mind which blazes forth with that great heart stimulation at the fourth degree. <wrap hide>516|00:57:02|920|00:57:11|160</wrap>And Saturn is again the spiritual will; it is the ruler of the etheric plane, <wrap hide>517|00:57:11|840|00:57:23|680</wrap>and it is complete control and complete subservience, the complete submission to one's dharma, to one's true destiny. <wrap hide>518|00:57:24|780|00:57:37|300</wrap>So there is here a kind of a buddhi-manas combination, and you have fulfilled your karma with respect to the lower worlds, under Saturn. <wrap hide>519|00:57:38|700|00:57:48|100</wrap>A great deal of karma is fulfilled by the time the third degree is taken, but there is much of karma that a man takes upon himself at the fourth degree, <wrap hide>520|00:57:48|100|00:57:56|620</wrap>which may be planetary in nature. And so there is a sacrificial submission to planetary karma under Saturn, <wrap hide>521|00:57:56|820|00:58:07|280</wrap>and a great illumination of the triadic intuition and the triadic mind, which helps you think of yourself, not as an individual, but in planetary terms. <wrap hide>522|00:58:08|380|00:58:16|260</wrap>Remember that Saturn does rule the atmic plane and the hierarchy of triads with which a man comes into contact. <wrap hide>523|00:58:16|260|00:58:29|500</wrap>So in a way, the human being is sensing very much of his monadic nature, which is ruled by Mercury, which is the ruler of the hierarchy of human monads, <wrap hide>524|00:58:29|840|00:58:38|420</wrap>and the triads are coming into power under Saturn, and that is a different kind of influence than in the lower realms. <wrap hide>525|00:58:38|420|00:58:48|300</wrap>We see how many things Saturn can be. We may have just a little time here, not much, not much at all. <wrap hide>526|00:58:48|460|00:58:59|940</wrap>As a matter of fact, I think I... let's save it for later. We have this marvelous discussion of the fifth initiation and Uranus and Jupiter, but I'll come back to that. <wrap hide>527|00:59:00|900|00:59:20|980</wrap>So here this is Esoteric Astrology Adventure, and it is number 32, and we have gone from page 68 to page 71. <wrap hide>528|00:59:21|780|00:59:30|100</wrap>We're actually sometimes making progress of three pages per adventure, so we are doing well. <wrap hide>529|00:59:31|660|00:59:43|160</wrap>Okay, and here is The Great Invocation. From the point... from the point. The point doesn't have two i's; that's the problem. <wrap hide>530|00:59:46|180|00:59:51|160</wrap>Alright, so our Great Invocation now. <wrap hide>531|00:59:58|920|00:59:59|800</wrap>Om. <wrap hide>532|01:00:05|460|01:00:16|760</wrap>From the point of light within the mind of God, let light stream forth into the minds of men. Let light descend on Earth. <wrap hide>533|01:00:20|080|01:00:31|020</wrap>From the point of love within the heart of God, let love stream forth into the hearts of men. May Christ return to Earth. <wrap hide>534|01:00:33|940|01:00:44|880</wrap>From the center where the will of God is known, let purpose guide the little wills of men—the purpose which the masters know and serve. <wrap hide>535|01:00:48|560|01:01:00|880</wrap>From the center which we call the race of men, let the plan of love and light work out, and may it seal the door where evil dwells. <wrap hide>536|01:01:02|680|01:01:09|060</wrap>Let light and love and power restore the plan on Earth. <wrap hide>537|01:01:13|660|01:01:15|060</wrap>Om. <wrap hide>538|01:01:15|060|01:01:17|400</wrap>Om. <wrap hide>539|01:01:23|420|01:01:24|820</wrap>Om. <wrap hide>540|01:01:24|820|01:01:27|160</wrap>Om. <wrap hide>541|01:01:33|920|01:01:35|320</wrap>Om. <wrap hide>542|01:01:38|740|01:01:40|140</wrap>Om. <wrap hide>543|01:01:47|340|01:01:51|440</wrap>Okay friends, there we are. <wrap hide>544|01:01:54|300|01:02:10|180</wrap>And we are now concluding Esoteric Astrology Adventure number 32, and we will continue with mastership, and the Jupiter and Uranus relationship to that particular initiation—amazing initiation. <wrap hide>545|01:02:11|080|01:02:19|080</wrap>And it's so interesting that those two planets should be together as they were in the chart of H.P.B., just a conjunction in Aquarius. Quite amazing. <wrap hide>546|01:02:19|080|01:02:23|780</wrap>Okay, we will see you before long. Okay, take care.+<wrap hide>1|00:00:03|300|00:00:08|280</wrap>Okay, good morning everyone, at least this morning here in Arizona. <wrap hide>2|00:00:10|020|00:00:18|600</wrap>And today is July the 26th, and we are continuing with our esoteric astrology adventures, number <wrap hide>3|00:00:18|600|00:00:21|780</wrap>32 this time. We completed 31 last time. <wrap hide>4|00:00:22|420|00:00:31|600</wrap>We were working on the way the <wrap quote>constellations</wrap>—he uses the word constellations rather than <wrap hide>5|00:00:31|600|00:00:50|720</wrap>signs in this case—the way the constellations are related through shared rulers, in the <wrap hide>6|00:00:50|720|00:00:59|420</wrap>case of the esoteric rulers and the hierarchical rulers, and we had just finished the hierarchical <wrap hide>7|00:01:00|120|00:01:08|300</wrap>rulers and we had been comparing, looking at some of the hierarchies which are related <wrap hide>8|00:01:08|300|00:01:13|420</wrap>through the rays of the planets which rule those hierarchies. <wrap hide>9|00:01:14|110|00:01:26|800</wrap>This is a detailed study with deep implications for the development of knowledge of the creative <wrap hide>10|00:01:26|800|00:01:30|280</wrap>hierarchies and knowledge of the deeper aspects of astrology. <wrap hide>11|00:01:31|240|00:01:39|080</wrap>I think there is enough on the previous esoteric astrology adventure for you to gather something <wrap hide>12|00:01:39|080|00:01:39|480</wrap>out of it. <wrap hide>13|00:01:39|480|00:01:48|280</wrap>Now we will move on. We're on page 68, and I think we did read this <wrap quote>note: Aries and Capricorn <wrap hide>14|00:01:49|100|00:01:54|040</wrap>in conjunction with seventh and fifth ray energies stand alone.</wrap> <wrap hide>15|00:01:54|160|00:01:59|820</wrap>Well, Aries is hierarchically ruled by Uranus, which is from the solar perspective a seventh <wrap hide>16|00:01:59|820|00:02:05|760</wrap>ray planet. Capricorn is hierarchically ruled by Venus, which from the solar perspective <wrap hide>17|00:02:05|760|00:02:13|820</wrap>is a fifth ray planet, and there are no other normal planets that are expressing the seventh <wrap hide>18|00:02:13|820|00:02:23|840</wrap>or fifth ray in any very powerful way, or in any way that we are using at this time <wrap hide>19|00:02:23|840|00:02:28|640</wrap>in our work with astrology, although I did mention that Jupiter has quite a bit of the <wrap hide>20|00:02:28|640|00:02:31|720</wrap>seventh ray connected with it. <wrap hide>21|00:02:32|840|00:02:44|120</wrap>And some people suggest that the planet Sigma, which is again an undiscovered planet, but <wrap hide>22|00:02:44|640|00:02:52|900</wrap>one for which there appears to be an ephemeris and which has a planetary period of some 13.5 <wrap hide>23|00:02:52|900|00:02:56|460</wrap>years, has much to do with the fifth ray. <wrap hide>24|00:02:56|460|00:03:07|440</wrap>Okay, we will see how the information emerges as we begin to discover these undiscovered. <wrap hide>25|00:03:08|000|00:03:24|260</wrap>Okay, now we have—let's see here—testing, testing, yes, okay. Now they carry on with <wrap hide>26|00:03:24|260|00:03:31|380</wrap>something that we have been noticing all along: ray one, Taurus and Pisces <wrap quote>through Vulcan <wrap hide>27|00:03:31|380|00:03:33|640</wrap>and Pluto.</wrap> Yes, that's correct. <wrap hide>28|00:03:36|000|00:03:40|480</wrap>We've discussed that: Taurus ruled by ray one Vulcan, Pisces by ray one Pluto, so Taurus <wrap hide>29|00:03:40|480|00:03:43|620</wrap>and Pisces are related in terms of world saviors. <wrap hide>30|00:03:44|860|00:03:52|780</wrap>Now we have Leo and Virgo; they are related through Jupiter. <wrap hide>31|00:03:54|440|00:03:57|880</wrap>The Sun rules Leo, ray two; Jupiter rules Virgo, ray two. <wrap hide>32|00:03:59|940|00:04:06|940</wrap>Gemini, in the case of the hierarchical rulers, is related to Libra, but those two stood alone <wrap hide>33|00:04:06|940|00:04:13|320</wrap>when we dealt with esoteric rulers, because again, ray five, Venus ruling Gemini, and <wrap hide>34|00:04:13|320|00:04:18|620</wrap>ray seven, Uranus ruling Libra esoterically, stood alone. <wrap hide>35|00:04:19|040|00:04:24|720</wrap>But now, here we are, with Gemini ruled by the third ray Earth and Libra ruled by third <wrap hide>36|00:04:24|720|00:04:25|280</wrap>ray Saturn. <wrap hide>37|00:04:25|940|00:04:33|200</wrap>When it comes to ray four, we have a relationship between Scorpio and Aquarius, hierarchically. <wrap hide>38|00:04:34|240|00:04:40|240</wrap>Scorpio ruled by ray four Mercury and Aquarius by ray four Moon. <wrap hide>39|00:04:40|920|00:04:46|440</wrap>And of course, the important thing is to not just look at the relationship between the <wrap hide>40|00:04:46|440|00:04:56|840</wrap>constellations or signs, but to see the manner in which these creative hierarchies are inter-related. <wrap hide>41|00:04:56|840|00:05:03|940</wrap>In our cosmos, everything is related to everything else, but sometimes there are special, especially <wrap hide>42|00:05:03|940|00:05:05|980</wrap>influential, relationships. <wrap hide>43|00:05:06|740|00:05:13|080</wrap>When it—we seem to have lost—yeah, ray five we don't have, of course, and ray six we do, <wrap hide>44|00:05:13|120|00:05:14|060</wrap>ray seven we don't. <wrap hide>45|00:05:14|740|00:05:19|820</wrap>Cancer is ruled by ray six Neptune, Sagittarius by ray six Mars, and we've discussed the relationship <wrap hide>46|00:05:19|820|00:05:23|040</wrap>of that particular—of those particular creative hierarchies. <wrap hide>47|00:05:23|810|00:05:25|540</wrap>All right. <wrap hide>48|00:05:27|080|00:05:39|340</wrap>Now, <wrap quote>in view of all the above,</wrap> and starting with the basic fact of the great illusion, <wrap hide>49|00:05:40|360|00:05:52|140</wrap>which I think is produced by the limitations of our perceptual capacity, although in a <wrap hide>50|00:05:52|140|00:06:00|000</wrap>sense it is—it should be remembered <wrap quote>that the accuracy of astrological prediction and <wrap hide>51|00:06:00|000|00:06:03|480</wrap>interpretation will be based upon three factors.</wrap> <wrap hide>52|00:06:05|080|00:06:11|780</wrap>Number one: <wrap quote>the potency of the thought forms which have been built up in connection with <wrap hide>53|00:06:11|780|00:06:12|640</wrap>the twelve signs.</wrap> <wrap hide>54|00:06:12|640|00:06:22|140</wrap>And we are told that initially a hierarchy anchored on the subtle planes great thought <wrap hide>55|00:06:22|140|00:06:25|760</wrap>forms associated with the twelve signs of the zodiac. <wrap hide>56|00:06:25|940|00:06:33|960</wrap>I'm not sure when that happened because not always in the—not always in the history of <wrap hide>57|00:06:33|960|00:06:40|340</wrap>humanity have the twelve signs been active in relationship to humanity. <wrap hide>58|00:06:40|340|00:06:48|620</wrap>Well, the constellations of course have always been there, but the signs themselves were <wrap hide>59|00:06:48|620|00:06:49|340</wrap>not influential. <wrap hide>60|00:06:49|520|00:06:54|960</wrap>At first there were eight signs, maybe then ten, at one point eleven, and finally twelve, <wrap hide>61|00:06:55|240|00:06:56|680</wrap>D.K. tells us. <wrap hide>62|00:06:56|720|00:07:02|960</wrap>But at least the constellations were there, and one could anchor transforming thought <wrap hide>63|00:07:02|960|00:07:09|180</wrap>forms—so thought forms which could somehow capture the energy and help to make that energy <wrap hide>64|00:07:10|180|00:07:12|380</wrap>intelligible to the humanity of the period. <wrap hide>65|00:07:13|020|00:07:16|760</wrap>I think I'll have to look that up, but it may have been in Atlantean times that this <wrap hide>66|00:07:16|760|00:07:21|100</wrap>anchoring... Well, here it talks about it. <wrap hide>67|00:07:21|380|00:07:26|620</wrap>These thought forms <wrap quote>were originally constructed or anchored upon the mental plane—okay—by <wrap hide>68|00:07:26|620|00:07:29|500</wrap>the hierarchy in Atlantean days. <wrap hide>69|00:07:31|440|00:07:35|280</wrap>And they have steadily gained in power ever since,</wrap> because we have all been, you know, <wrap hide>70|00:07:35|380|00:07:37|360</wrap>contributing to them. <wrap hide>71|00:07:38|060|00:07:49|320</wrap>So they have a way, as he says here, serving <wrap quote>as focal points for certain forces and enabling <wrap hide>72|00:07:49|320|00:07:55|520</wrap>the individual, for instance, to be in touch with great reservoirs of energy which then <wrap hide>73|00:07:55|520|00:07:57|180</wrap>definitely condition him.</wrap> <wrap hide>74|00:07:57|300|00:08:02|760</wrap>Probably without those thought forms, it would be much harder for the energy of the constellations <wrap hide>75|00:08:02|760|00:08:13|700</wrap>working through those areas of the Earth's aura which we call signs to reach humanity <wrap hide>76|00:08:13|700|00:08:15|500</wrap>in a significant way. <wrap hide>77|00:08:16|980|00:08:20|760</wrap>So now there are great thought forms related to the twelve constellations. <wrap hide>78|00:08:21|700|00:08:30|520</wrap>I imagine in some ways they are very complex, with so much added to them, but probably the <wrap hide>79|00:08:32|080|00:08:36|940</wrap>initial essential ideas are there, given by the hierarchy. <wrap hide>80|00:08:38|500|00:08:44|920</wrap>So we're saying here the accuracy of astrological prediction will be based upon—okay—these <wrap hide>81|00:08:45|520|00:08:49|820</wrap>thought forms. That's one thing: the thought forms which have been anchored upon the mental <wrap hide>82|00:08:49|820|00:08:52|320</wrap>plane by the hierarchy in Atlantean days. <wrap hide>83|00:08:53|420|00:08:56|900</wrap>Accuracy will also be based upon <wrap quote>the intuition of the astrologer. <wrap hide>84|00:08:57|600|00:09:02|740</wrap>The casting of the horoscope serves to put the astrologer en rapport with the individual. <wrap hide>85|00:09:03|440|00:09:10|060</wrap>But this is of small service to either party unless the intuition and sensitivity of the <wrap hide>86|00:09:10|060|00:09:11|420</wrap>astrologer is actively present.</wrap> <wrap hide>87|00:09:11|680|00:09:16|300</wrap>Well, in the old days we used to do all of this by hand. <wrap hide>88|00:09:17|200|00:09:19|140</wrap>We did not even have calculators. <wrap hide>89|00:09:20|060|00:09:27|420</wrap>Then came calculators and computers and astrological programs which did so much of the work for <wrap hide>90|00:09:27|420|00:09:27|560</wrap>you. <wrap hide>91|00:09:27|860|00:09:32|860</wrap>Sometimes I think in the hour it may have taken to prepare a natal chart, there was a <wrap hide>92|00:09:32|860|00:09:41|300</wrap>growing rapport emerging between the astrologer preparing the chart and the individual whom <wrap hide>93|00:09:41|300|00:09:43|440</wrap>the chart represented. <wrap hide>94|00:09:44|620|00:09:53|700</wrap>In any case, there is a symbol before us, and this symbol is a symbol of rapport. And we've <wrap hide>95|00:09:53|700|00:09:58|960</wrap>noticed—I think some of us who are astrologers—how we may be dealing with an individual and <wrap hide>96|00:09:58|960|00:10:05|940</wrap>have a certain type of rapport, but via the chart we obviously see other things, more <wrap hide>97|00:10:05|940|00:10:12|960</wrap>things, and seeing those things helps guide us into a deeper type of rapport with the <wrap hide>98|00:10:12|960|00:10:18|820</wrap>individual. But obviously the new type of astrology is the intuitional astrology, and <wrap hide>99|00:10:18|820|00:10:21|320</wrap>intuition and sensitivity are both required. <wrap hide>100|00:10:22|400|00:10:29|380</wrap>So from that point of view, Neptune is a very useful planet to the astrologer, especially <wrap hide>101|00:10:29|380|00:10:40|000</wrap>to the esoteric astrologer who is trying to touch into the deeper layers of the subject <wrap hide>102|00:10:40|000|00:10:41|760</wrap>for whom he may be preparing a chart. <wrap hide>103|00:10:41|760|00:10:50|920</wrap>And then accuracy is dependent upon <wrap quote>the capacity of the astrologer in any specific period to <wrap hide>104|00:10:51|300|00:10:56|040</wrap>respond to the changes which are all the time taking place.</wrap> <wrap hide>105|00:10:57|680|00:11:02|340</wrap>In other words, the astrologer reading hundreds of years ago would have had different conditions <wrap hide>106|00:11:02|340|00:11:07|520</wrap>in which to read, different subtle energies reaching him than at the present time. <wrap hide>107|00:11:07|520|00:11:13|620</wrap>And D.K. speaks of the gradual shifting and changing, <wrap quote>such as the gradual shifting and changing <wrap hide>108|00:11:13|620|00:11:16|760</wrap>brought about by the precession of the equinoxes.</wrap> <wrap hide>109|00:11:17|420|00:11:26|740</wrap>So a different degree of a particular sign is always presenting itself. <wrap hide>110|00:11:27|440|00:11:33|560</wrap>For instance, at the moment we are probably in the last few degrees of early Pisces. <wrap hide>111|00:11:33|560|00:11:41|460</wrap>Each degree having its particular quality and influencing the Earth for 72 years, approximately. <wrap hide>112|00:11:41|920|00:11:48|060</wrap>So each degree influences for 72 years. <wrap hide>113|00:11:48|920|00:11:58|720</wrap>And the precession of the equinoxes gives us a general relationship with the major sign <wrap hide>114|00:11:58|720|00:12:00|820</wrap>which lasts 2,160 years. <wrap hide>115|00:12:01|480|00:12:09|040</wrap>But there are decanates, there are half-decanates, light and dark faces of each decanate. <wrap hide>116|00:12:09|500|00:12:16|040</wrap>There are Dvadashamsas of 2.5 degrees. We sometimes simplify that by simply calling them Dvads, <wrap hide>117|00:12:16|180|00:12:19|520</wrap>D-W-A-D-S, and then the particular degree itself. <wrap hide>118|00:12:19|520|00:12:28|660</wrap>And also, all the time the Earth and all life upon it is subject to the quality of particular parts <wrap hide>119|00:12:28|660|00:12:37|520</wrap>of the major sign towards which the vernal equinox is pointing, or let's call it the constellation. <wrap hide>120|00:12:38|520|00:12:46|960</wrap>Even though the size of the constellations is variable, in general we're all agreed to look at them <wrap hide>121|00:12:46|960|00:12:54|340</wrap>as 30-degree segments of space, and the vernal equinox is oriented towards these segments of space <wrap hide>122|00:12:54|340|00:13:00|540</wrap>and bringing in certain major energies and sub-energies and sub-sub-energies, all of which affect us. <wrap hide>123|00:13:01|460|00:13:05|500</wrap>And we're talking about <wrap quote>the slow shift of the pole of the planet.</wrap> <wrap hide>124|00:13:05|620|00:13:12|140</wrap>Well, this can be the wobble in a rightward direction of the pole. <wrap hide>125|00:13:12|140|00:13:21|340</wrap>It turns in the opposite direction of the planet rotating and the planet revolving. <wrap hide>126|00:13:24|680|00:13:31|500</wrap>Yes. Okay, so that of course is correlated with the precession of the equinoxes, <wrap hide>127|00:13:31|500|00:13:40|220</wrap>but there's also other movements of the planets, kind of a back and forth movement of the polar axis, <wrap hide>128|00:13:40|220|00:13:45|960</wrap>and that's called nutation, N-U-T-A-T-I-O-N. <wrap hide>129|00:13:46|420|00:13:53|880</wrap><wrap quote>To this should be added that as man evolves, the mechanism of response, or the vehicles of consciousness, <wrap hide>130|00:13:54|280|00:14:03|680</wrap>likewise steadily improve</wrap>s. So, today's human being is far more sensitive to these various types of energies <wrap hide>131|00:14:03|680|00:14:08|760</wrap>than may have been the case in earlier times, and the astrologer has to assess whether <wrap hide>132|00:14:08|760|00:14:19|400</wrap>his subject, the so-called native for which he is drawing the chart, can be sensitive to the potential energies. <wrap hide>133|00:14:20|340|00:14:22|800</wrap>You know, there's lots of things that can reach a person. <wrap hide>134|00:14:22|920|00:14:30|660</wrap>The question is, according to the form nature before us, can these energies reach that individual? <wrap hide>135|00:14:30|660|00:14:38|780</wrap>If we try to use the sacred planets and even the hierarchical planets and the esoteric planets <wrap hide>136|00:14:40|400|00:14:47|080</wrap>as important in the life of the average individual, we may be talking about something which is non-existent <wrap hide>137|00:14:47|080|00:14:51|920</wrap>in his consciousness, even though present in space. <wrap hide>138|00:14:52|600|00:15:00|000</wrap>Now, <wrap quote>his reactions therefore to the planetary influence and to the energy of the various constellations <wrap hide>139|00:15:00|000|00:15:06|760</wrap>mediated through the signs change with equal steadiness, and allowance must be made for this.</wrap> <wrap hide>140|00:15:06|880|00:15:14|720</wrap>So, we have to be very aware of the time in which we are casting the horoscope, the period, the conditions, <wrap hide>141|00:15:14|720|00:15:23|420</wrap>the atmosphere, even the various ray cycles which are operative at the time of casting the horoscope, <wrap hide>142|00:15:23|680|00:15:31|800</wrap>because the ray cycles will naturally influence how we receive the astrological energies. <wrap hide>143|00:15:33|200|00:15:40|280</wrap><wrap quote>It is consequently essential that the modern astrologer begin to study the point in evolution of the subject <wrap hide>144|00:15:40|280|00:15:50|140</wrap>prior to casting</wrap> the horoscope. Well, you know, this was written 80 years ago, or almost so, in cases of part of the book. <wrap hide>145|00:15:51|560|00:16:02|260</wrap>And this by now has become, for esoteric astrologers, an important statement, an important principle. <wrap hide>146|00:16:03|760|00:16:09|760</wrap>We must study, to the degree we can assess it, and we cannot necessarily assess it with great accuracy, <wrap hide>147|00:16:10|420|00:16:13|720</wrap>the point in evolution of the subject prior to casting the horoscope. <wrap hide>148|00:16:13|820|00:16:19|760</wrap>But we do have the general sense of whether the person is functioning as a personality, <wrap hide>149|00:16:21|420|00:16:27|960</wrap>and is following our personality desires which relate to acquisition in the three lower worlds, <wrap hide>150|00:16:27|960|00:16:33|500</wrap>or whether that person is in process of awakening to higher values and possibilities, <wrap hide>151|00:16:33|680|00:16:45|840</wrap>or whether that person is well on his way, on the path, and has been pursuing these higher values and possibilities for some time. <wrap hide>152|00:16:46|780|00:16:55|680</wrap>At least those three categories we can probably assess, and we will interpret the horoscope accordingly. <wrap hide>153|00:16:56|640|00:17:03|040</wrap>Going on, <wrap quote>he must ascertain his approximate place upon the path of evolution.</wrap> <wrap hide>154|00:17:04|700|00:17:11|880</wrap>So are we dealing with an ambitious person? Are we dealing with, well even before an ambitious person, <wrap hide>155|00:17:11|960|00:17:15|560</wrap>simply an average individual with no particular direction in life? <wrap hide>156|00:17:15|660|00:17:22|040</wrap>Are we dealing with a strong lower ego, driven by a personal ambition? <wrap hide>157|00:17:22|040|00:17:27|500</wrap>Are we dealing with an aspirant who is awakening? <wrap hide>158|00:17:27|920|00:17:33|460</wrap>Are we dealing with a probationary disciple who is willing to be tested and struggling with those tests? <wrap hide>159|00:17:33|560|00:17:42|320</wrap>Are we dealing with a disciple who is truly one-pointed and increasingly mentally focused? <wrap hide>160|00:17:42|500|00:17:48|000</wrap>Are we dealing with an accepted disciple who has come on rapport with the ashram of a master, <wrap hide>161|00:17:49|320|00:17:53|680</wrap>and who is now approaching that ashram and seeking to serve that ashram? <wrap hide>162|00:17:54|580|00:17:58|500</wrap>Are we dealing at last with the probationary initiate of the first or second degree, <wrap hide>163|00:17:58|520|00:18:02|400</wrap>or are we dealing with the true initiate of the third degree and beyond? <wrap hide>164|00:18:03|460|00:18:09|460</wrap>Of course, maybe if we were, we would not be in such a position to be very useful to such an individual. <wrap hide>165|00:18:10|320|00:18:11|340</wrap>Maybe yes, maybe no. <wrap hide>166|00:18:12|720|00:18:18|220</wrap>So, the astrologer must ascertain the approximate place of the subject upon the path of evolution, <wrap hide>167|00:18:18|240|00:18:22|800</wrap>and <wrap quote>to this end, the study of the rays is most necessary, <wrap hide>168|00:18:23|280|00:18:29|720</wrap>through an investigation as to the quality and characteristics and life objectives.</wrap> <wrap hide>169|00:18:31|520|00:18:41|580</wrap>So, these five books, of which Esoteric Astrology is one, are a five-fold treatise on the seven rays, <wrap hide>170|00:18:42|180|00:18:49|440</wrap>and we cannot separate the study of the deeper type of astrology from the ray energies. <wrap hide>171|00:18:49|740|00:18:57|440</wrap>I mean, we will see horoscopes that have many similarities astrologically, <wrap hide>172|00:18:57|440|00:19:04|360</wrap>but the individuals express marked differences in their orientation and behavior. <wrap hide>173|00:19:05|020|00:19:05|800</wrap>And why is that? <wrap hide>174|00:19:06|620|00:19:09|400</wrap>That is the rays that are involved. <wrap hide>175|00:19:09|520|00:19:15|820</wrap>No matter what the horoscope may be, if the individual is on the ray of the teacher, <wrap hide>176|00:19:16|220|00:19:23|440</wrap>or on the ray of the director or leader, you cannot change those orientations, <wrap hide>177|00:19:23|440|00:19:27|420</wrap>regardless of the chart with which the individual is presented, <wrap hide>178|00:19:27|860|00:19:32|760</wrap>to help that individual move along the path towards that ray objective. <wrap hide>179|00:19:33|400|00:19:42|400</wrap>The soul ray becomes all important, if it can be discerned, and eventually it will be discerned, <wrap hide>180|00:19:42|400|00:19:47|380</wrap>and perhaps easier of discernment for more advanced people is the personality ray, <wrap hide>181|00:19:47|380|00:19:50|140</wrap>and that has to be taken into consideration. <wrap hide>182|00:19:50|140|00:20:00|860</wrap>It's, in a way, a higher order of understanding that we must come into rapport with, <wrap hide>183|00:20:00|980|00:20:06|120</wrap>before we can interpret the astrological chart in the right context. <wrap hide>184|00:20:06|240|00:20:13|340</wrap>I sometimes make the joke, you know, my daughter's horoscope is very similar to Otto von Bismarck. <wrap hide>185|00:20:13|460|00:20:15|720</wrap>They have the Sun, Moon, and Ascendant in the same position. <wrap hide>186|00:20:15|720|00:20:21|240</wrap>Okay. You know, probably some similarities. Even Mercury. <wrap hide>187|00:20:21|840|00:20:26|180</wrap>So, my daughter is on the second ray, and Otto von Bismarck is on the first ray. <wrap hide>188|00:20:26|520|00:20:34|080</wrap>Unless one knows those facts, even a similar horoscope can be misinterpreted, <wrap hide>189|00:20:34|080|00:20:41|380</wrap>because you'll want to go in knowing the ray energies, and you will see then particular planets, <wrap hide>190|00:20:41|380|00:20:49|560</wrap>which are of greater moment, because they are ray rulers, they conduct the ray energy. <wrap hide>191|00:20:50|660|00:20:54|920</wrap>For instance, in the case of Bismarck, you know, one would have to examine very closely <wrap hide>192|00:20:54|920|00:20:58|580</wrap>Vulcan and Pluto, first ray planets. <wrap hide>193|00:20:59|900|00:21:04|660</wrap>And in the case of my daughter, let us say, Jupiter and Venus would be very important, <wrap hide>194|00:21:05|540|00:21:09|700</wrap>conveying in different ways some second ray energy, as well as the Sun. <wrap hide>195|00:21:09|700|00:21:15|960</wrap>So, okay, that's the principle. That's the principle. <wrap hide>196|00:21:16|800|00:21:19|220</wrap>Page 70. Wow, are we making progress. <wrap hide>197|00:21:20|340|00:21:24|980</wrap>I do hope that before long it is possible for us to finish this introduction, <wrap hide>198|00:21:25|660|00:21:30|660</wrap>which has been wide ranging, and which, in the method that I use, <wrap hide>199|00:21:31|620|00:21:38|940</wrap>takes in many other aspects of the teaching to be related to what D.K. says here about astrology. <wrap hide>200|00:21:38|940|00:21:43|480</wrap>I'm making the assumption that many of you have read this astrology book, <wrap hide>201|00:21:44|280|00:21:48|240</wrap>and that you study it, and that you know something about it, <wrap hide>202|00:21:48|480|00:21:55|180</wrap>and I'm trying to correlate other factors in the teaching with what is said about the astrology. <wrap hide>203|00:21:56|000|00:22:00|020</wrap><wrap quote>Astrologers will eventually be able to cast the horoscope of the soul, <wrap hide>204|00:22:00|990|00:22:04|860</wrap>which is sensitive to different combinations of forces, <wrap hide>205|00:22:05|420|00:22:08|380</wrap>to those controlling the personality life.</wrap> <wrap hide>206|00:22:09|200|00:22:11|920</wrap>Well, you know, it looks like a straightforward statement, <wrap hide>207|00:22:12|240|00:22:20|700</wrap>but do we mean the horoscope of the soul in incarnation, <wrap hide>208|00:22:21|280|00:22:24|480</wrap>which is representing that higher consciousness, <wrap hide>209|00:22:25|440|00:22:27|660</wrap>which we call soul consciousness on the higher mental plane, <wrap hide>210|00:22:27|660|00:22:33|680</wrap>or do we mean that the causal body was created at a certain time, <wrap hide>211|00:22:33|820|00:22:38|760</wrap>and under certain aspects, under certain influences, <wrap hide>212|00:22:39|920|00:22:47|900</wrap>and that that creation, the moment of creation of that soul consciousness, <wrap hide>213|00:22:48|920|00:22:56|140</wrap>will somehow have its own horoscope to be compared with the many personality horoscopes. <wrap hide>214|00:22:56|140|00:23:00|040</wrap>And then, you know, on the realm of soul there are many additions that occur. <wrap hide>215|00:23:01|180|00:23:08|080</wrap>Every time you change a root race or a sub-race, the soul may in a way be differently configured. <wrap hide>216|00:23:08|940|00:23:11|320</wrap>There may be a different soul orientation. <wrap hide>217|00:23:12|600|00:23:18|720</wrap>So there is the personality, but there is also the growing consciousness, <wrap hide>218|00:23:19|800|00:23:24|240</wrap>which represents the consciousness on the higher mental plane, <wrap hide>219|00:23:24|240|00:23:32|100</wrap>and that perhaps is the astrology of the soul with which we are dealing. <wrap hide>220|00:23:32|820|00:23:36|320</wrap>One day it may be possible to know the exact moment of individualization, <wrap hide>221|00:23:37|140|00:23:40|220</wrap>which for <wrap quote>those</wrap> who are part of Earth humanity, <wrap hide>222|00:23:40|840|00:23:50|040</wrap>took place over a 5,000-year period, 21 plus million years ago, <wrap hide>223|00:23:50|040|00:23:55|480</wrap>21,688,345. I'm going to memorize that number <wrap hide>224|00:23:55|480|00:23:59|760</wrap>and relate it to the year in which that section was written of Esoteric Astrology. <wrap hide>225|00:24:01|400|00:24:03|740</wrap>But some of us were individualized on the Moon chain. <wrap hide>226|00:24:03|880|00:24:05|520</wrap>What was the moment of individualization? <wrap hide>227|00:24:05|680|00:24:13|220</wrap>What were the astrological aspects prevalent at the moment we could say we became a human being? <wrap hide>228|00:24:13|700|00:24:17|300</wrap>Maybe some of us were individualized in the previous solar system, <wrap hide>229|00:24:17|300|00:24:25|500</wrap>and how in the world would we be able to understand the egoic nature as developed at that time? <wrap hide>230|00:24:26|240|00:24:34|320</wrap>So this simple statement, "the horoscope of the soul," is subject to various interpretations, <wrap hide>231|00:24:34|960|00:24:44|080</wrap>and some of the less remote and more present interpretations may be more useful. <wrap hide>232|00:24:44|080|00:24:57|680</wrap>It can be, in a way, the inner directive for the indwelling consciousness during any particular incarnation; <wrap hide>233|00:24:58|000|00:24:59|460</wrap>we may call that the soul. <wrap hide>234|00:25:00|020|00:25:06|700</wrap>Anyway, different combinations of forces can be applied to the life of consciousness, <wrap hide>235|00:25:07|000|00:25:10|780</wrap>the wheel of consciousness, or to the wheel of form, <wrap hide>236|00:25:10|780|00:25:17|480</wrap>which is the wheel of the personality, and we have to learn what those combinations are. <wrap hide>237|00:25:18|840|00:25:30|320</wrap>The disciple and the initiate respond distinctively to the incoming influence in a distinct manner— <wrap hide>238|00:25:32|140|00:25:35|260</wrap>a discernible manner to the incoming influences, <wrap hide>239|00:25:35|260|00:25:43|760</wrap>and their response differs from that of the undeveloped man, or later the self-centered person. <wrap hide>240|00:25:45|260|00:25:53|220</wrap>The true personality thinks of itself pretty much as the center of its field of perception, <wrap hide>241|00:25:53|580|00:25:55|320</wrap>the center of the world in a way. <wrap hide>242|00:25:55|940|00:25:58|940</wrap>The undeveloped man has a consciousness much more diffuse, <wrap hide>243|00:25:58|940|00:26:07|280</wrap>but in any case, the disciple's response will be altogether higher to the incoming energies, <wrap hide>244|00:26:07|660|00:26:13|780</wrap>and it will affect areas of his energy system and chakras which are not affected, <wrap hide>245|00:26:14|660|00:26:21|680</wrap>as those same energies impact the undeveloped man and the self-centered person— <wrap hide>246|00:26:22|200|00:26:25|420</wrap>the energy systems of the undeveloped man or self-centered person. <wrap hide>247|00:26:25|420|00:26:28|440</wrap>This will have to be recognized. <wrap hide>248|00:26:29|060|00:26:32|180</wrap>So astrology, you see, becomes much more complex. <wrap hide>249|00:26:32|360|00:26:37|680</wrap>It's not as if you could pick up a horoscope and only know that you're dealing with a human being, <wrap hide>250|00:26:38|340|00:26:45|000</wrap>and then begin to accurately read the life of such a human being. <wrap hide>251|00:26:45|100|00:26:51|660</wrap>You really have to come en rapport, and when we're thinking about the healing, <wrap hide>252|00:26:51|660|00:26:59|100</wrap>the work of the healer, D.K. is saying, "Well, spend five hours in quiet thought <wrap hide>253|00:27:00|600|00:27:04|760</wrap>concerning the subject with whom you are to engage in the healing process." <wrap hide>254|00:27:04|980|00:27:14|060</wrap>And I sometimes think if we had the time, that would be ideal—time ideally spent <wrap hide>255|00:27:15|600|00:27:19|440</wrap>for those with whom we're going to come en rapport in the astrological sense, <wrap hide>256|00:27:19|440|00:27:27|640</wrap>because after all, we are engaged in a way in psychological healing and reorientation. <wrap hide>257|00:27:28|700|00:27:35|500</wrap>So some patience will be required. This is a very hectic time of human civilization. <wrap hide>258|00:27:35|720|00:27:40|020</wrap>There are great cross-currents and competing energies, <wrap hide>259|00:27:40|020|00:27:54|360</wrap>and man's life in the West and even in the East now is very upset, very disturbed and agitated. <wrap hide>260|00:27:55|040|00:28:01|500</wrap>And it is difficult to come en rapport with the deeper energy patterns in such environments, <wrap hide>261|00:28:01|560|00:28:09|000</wrap>but that will give way eventually to the promised period of peace and deeper sensitivity— <wrap hide>262|00:28:09|000|00:28:11|760</wrap>I would assume accompanying the peace. <wrap hide>263|00:28:14|920|00:28:19|940</wrap>So the disciple will respond in a certain way and initiate in a certain way, <wrap hide>264|00:28:20|020|00:28:22|560</wrap>and so will the undeveloped man and self-centered person. <wrap hide>265|00:28:23|320|00:28:27|620</wrap>This will have to be recognized and we have to know for whom we are reading. <wrap hide>266|00:28:28|640|00:28:30|460</wrap>So let me just put that down. <wrap hide>267|00:28:32|580|00:28:36|420</wrap>We must know for whom we are reading. <wrap hide>268|00:28:37|420|00:28:45|100</wrap>Those <wrap quote>who live below the diaphragm, and</wrap> those who—what does that mean really? <wrap hide>269|00:28:45|620|00:28:53|900</wrap>They react; their consciousness is filled with recognition of and response to the impulses <wrap hide>270|00:28:53|900|00:28:59|140</wrap>which come from the chakras and organs below the diaphragm. <wrap hide>271|00:28:59|180|00:29:01|500</wrap>That's what it means to live below the diaphragm. <wrap hide>272|00:29:01|500|00:29:08|780</wrap>We all have our chakric energies below the diaphragm, but where is our consciousness focused? <wrap hide>273|00:29:08|980|00:29:09|940</wrap>That's the question. <wrap hide>274|00:29:11|680|00:29:18|960</wrap>Those who live below the diaphragm and <wrap quote>who react to the incoming energies through the medium of the lower centers, <wrap hide>275|00:29:20|140|00:29:24|400</wrap>so the plexus, sacral, spleen, and base of the spine, <wrap hide>276|00:29:24|940|00:29:30|460</wrap>will have a very different type of chart to</wrap> that of the disciple or initiate. <wrap hide>277|00:29:31|360|00:29:38|220</wrap>Well, at least when we go in there, we will certainly, even if the chart looks the same in some cases, <wrap hide>278|00:29:38|960|00:29:42|640</wrap>we will be emphasizing different factors. <wrap hide>279|00:29:44|000|00:29:48|620</wrap>And different patterns will emerge and different triangles will be of importance, <wrap hide>280|00:29:48|840|00:29:51|500</wrap>and the sun sign more so than the rising sign. <wrap hide>281|00:29:52|140|00:29:58|600</wrap><wrap quote>It will require a different mode of interpretation</wrap> using the ordinary rulers <wrap hide>282|00:29:58|600|00:30:01|040</wrap>rather than the esoteric or hierarchical rulers. <wrap hide>283|00:30:01|260|00:30:07|480</wrap>And he says, <wrap quote>"I have referred to this before and would remind you of some of the points which I made."</wrap> <wrap hide>284|00:30:08|660|00:30:16|040</wrap>It does serve us to be reminded of these points, and we need the specific examples, <wrap hide>285|00:30:17|880|00:30:21|760</wrap>probably in this particular interpretation of esoteric astrology. <wrap hide>286|00:30:23|740|00:30:30|500</wrap>Using the book in the way I am, I'm not going to get into the details of astrological interpretation <wrap hide>287|00:30:30|500|00:30:36|280</wrap>in the same way as some of my colleagues are doing, and they're doing very well. <wrap hide>288|00:30:37|040|00:30:41|080</wrap>Maybe we'll see if time allows; that might be possible. <wrap hide>289|00:30:41|160|00:30:49|160</wrap>But I think there is a need to think very carefully, paragraph by paragraph, line by line, word by word, <wrap hide>290|00:30:49|160|00:30:51|940</wrap>over what the Tibetan has said. <wrap hide>291|00:30:52|300|00:30:59|340</wrap>We must ponder together on what he is trying to convey to us <wrap hide>292|00:30:59|340|00:31:08|260</wrap>so that at least the major outlines of this great science come clearer to us. <wrap hide>293|00:31:08|360|00:31:16|560</wrap>And then all the many detailed points of interpretation can be dealt with in specific contexts. <wrap hide>294|00:31:16|560|00:31:20|000</wrap>I enjoy doing it too, but time is of the essence. <wrap hide>295|00:31:21|200|00:31:23|260</wrap>So anyway, D.K. made these points. <wrap hide>296|00:31:23|800|00:31:28|860</wrap>Disciples upon the path of discipleship, and some have said in this regard, <wrap hide>297|00:31:29|000|00:31:32|720</wrap>accepted discipleship, are strongly influenced by Mercury and Saturn. <wrap hide>298|00:31:33|640|00:31:37|780</wrap>One bringing illumination, that's Mercury, and the other offering opportunity. <wrap hide>299|00:31:37|780|00:31:46|060</wrap>Well, Saturn doesn't offer the kind of opportunity to have every whim and every casual desire fulfilled. <wrap hide>300|00:31:47|480|00:31:58|680</wrap>The kind of opportunity is to face those circumstances and overcome those conditions <wrap hide>301|00:31:58|680|00:32:04|700</wrap>which prevent a fuller soul infusion. <wrap hide>302|00:32:05|460|00:32:14|260</wrap>It's really an opportunity to move upon the path by facing the karmic and dharmic difficulties which must be overcome. <wrap hide>303|00:32:15|260|00:32:21|080</wrap>So disciples upon the path of discipleship are strongly influenced by two quite mental planets, Mercury and Saturn, <wrap hide>304|00:32:21|120|00:32:25|840</wrap>and that's why it really has to be the path of discipleship, <wrap hide>305|00:32:26|240|00:32:31|160</wrap>not so much the path of probationary discipleship or the path of aspiration, <wrap hide>306|00:32:31|160|00:32:39|720</wrap>where we are still quite astrally focused and fighting many battles in relation to our desire nature. <wrap hide>307|00:32:39|920|00:32:47|560</wrap>Once our mind, in which the will is focused, has begun to be our main instrument, <wrap hide>308|00:32:48|280|00:32:55|400</wrap>then Mercury and Saturn will be of real value, critical value to the disciple. <wrap hide>309|00:32:55|400|00:33:02|380</wrap>And some have said that this only happens really on the path of accepted discipleship, <wrap hide>310|00:33:02|500|00:33:09|980</wrap>which can occur, and I think usually does occur, somewhere from the middle of the period <wrap hide>311|00:33:09|980|00:33:16|300</wrap>between the first and second initiation onward towards the second initiation, <wrap hide>312|00:33:16|360|00:33:20|040</wrap>and maybe even to some extent after the second initiation. <wrap hide>313|00:33:20|040|00:33:26|640</wrap>One can make much progress initiatorily without necessarily being an accepted disciple, <wrap hide>314|00:33:27|220|00:33:34|360</wrap>which is a relationship that has to do with your particular karmic relationship to a master. <wrap hide>315|00:33:35|760|00:33:37|340</wrap>So D.K. does differentiate there. <wrap hide>316|00:33:38|580|00:33:40|460</wrap>Okay, here are the points he has made. <wrap hide>317|00:33:42|100|00:33:43|620</wrap>Mercury and Saturn are influential. <wrap hide>318|00:33:44|560|00:33:52|520</wrap>And number two, <wrap quote>at the various initiations, the influence of the planets affects the candidate, <wrap hide>319|00:33:52|840|00:33:58|120</wrap>the candidate to initiation, in a totally different manner than earlier.</wrap> <wrap hide>320|00:33:58|820|00:34:04|520</wrap>Within a planet, our entire range of possibilities and qualities, and not all of them get through. <wrap hide>321|00:34:04|920|00:34:11|740</wrap>It all depends on the sensitivity of the form nature, the responsiveness. <wrap hide>322|00:34:11|740|00:34:19|140</wrap><wrap quote>Cyclically, the energies from the constellations pour through the planetary</wrap> centers. <wrap hide>323|00:34:19|440|00:34:27|260</wrap>We've talked about them; there are continents, there are cities, there are kingdoms, <wrap hide>324|00:34:28|520|00:34:39|720</wrap>and there are chakras located on the etheric planes, which can also be considered planetary centers. <wrap hide>325|00:34:41|380|00:34:48|520</wrap>Okay, at the first initiation, these are important ideas here, <wrap hide>326|00:34:49|100|00:34:54|120</wrap>and ones which are often reviewed in esoteric astrology classes. <wrap hide>327|00:34:54|640|00:35:03|880</wrap><wrap quote>At the first initiation, the disciple has to contend with the crystallizing and destroying forces of Vulcan and Pluto.</wrap> <wrap hide>328|00:35:04|160|00:35:09|520</wrap>Vulcan particularly crystallizes and thereby sets up the possibility of shattering, <wrap hide>329|00:35:09|520|00:35:14|860</wrap>and Pluto is very much the destroyer aspect of the first ray. <wrap hide>330|00:35:15|140|00:35:18|200</wrap>Vulcan: a sacred planet. Pluto: a non-sacred planet. <wrap hide>331|00:35:18|960|00:35:24|500</wrap>The influence of Vulcan, which can be symbolized in a way by the downward pointing arrow, <wrap hide>332|00:35:27|120|00:35:29|600</wrap>which has kind of a V in it—V for Vulcan— <wrap hide>333|00:35:30|720|00:35:34|880</wrap>the influence of Vulcan reaches to the very depths of the nature. <wrap hide>334|00:35:35|870|00:35:47|900</wrap>The soul seeks to permeate deeply, and the will descends into the depths, so nothing is left untouched, <wrap hide>335|00:35:47|900|00:35:55|340</wrap>while Pluto, a planetary influence which is used to operate in the depths, <wrap hide>336|00:35:55|880|00:36:01|060</wrap><wrap quote>drags to the surface and destroys all that hinders in these lower regions.</wrap> <wrap hide>337|00:36:01|060|00:36:06|460</wrap>There are many things in the lower part of our aura which are unredeemed. <wrap hide>338|00:36:06|640|00:36:13|080</wrap>You know, if you look at the aura egg, there's kind of a blackish-brown layer down there of unredeemed sludge— <wrap hide>339|00:36:13|720|00:36:15|980</wrap>stuff that just hasn't been dealt with. <wrap hide>340|00:36:16|700|00:36:20|260</wrap>And it's very interesting how Pluto throws things in your face, you know. <wrap hide>341|00:36:20|780|00:36:29|700</wrap>When it is said that "the truth will out," we're talking very much, I think, about the influence of Pluto. <wrap hide>342|00:36:29|700|00:36:39|040</wrap>Under Scorpionic circumstances, one can suppress information and truth and keep things concealed, <wrap hide>343|00:36:39|160|00:36:45|740</wrap>but there always comes a time under Scorpio and Pluto when that which is concealed rises to the light, <wrap hide>344|00:36:46|940|00:36:52|380</wrap>despite what anyone tries to do to keep it hidden. <wrap hide>345|00:36:53|300|00:37:05|500</wrap>So, we cannot go into the Chamber of Initiation with our aura filled with all kinds of unsuspected, unresolved issues. <wrap hide>346|00:37:06|220|00:37:16|420</wrap>Those issues in the psychologist's office often come to the surface, or when you're talking to friends or people close to you, <wrap hide>347|00:37:16|420|00:37:23|880</wrap>many things long hidden are evoked and brought into the light of day. <wrap hide>348|00:37:24|240|00:37:33|560</wrap>And the light of day, interestingly, is that type of light which is particularly related to Scorpio, <wrap hide>349|00:37:33|700|00:37:37|340</wrap>of which Pluto is one of the rulers. <wrap hide>350|00:37:38|460|00:37:44|100</wrap>So, you know, we're drilling down; we descend into the depths through Vulcan. <wrap hide>351|00:37:44|980|00:37:51|720</wrap>We have that will to penetrate to the depths so that the highest and the lowest can meet, <wrap hide>352|00:37:51|800|00:37:58|100</wrap>and there, by that active will to penetrate, we find obstructions. <wrap hide>353|00:37:59|660|00:38:06|160</wrap>And the obstructions cannot be left there; they have to be destroyed or reconfigured or integrated. <wrap hide>354|00:38:06|160|00:38:14|100</wrap>They have to be made a part of the system; otherwise, a person remains as a non-integrated personality <wrap hide>355|00:38:14|100|00:38:16|280</wrap>who cannot really undergo initiation. <wrap hide>356|00:38:16|880|00:38:21|800</wrap>So this happens at the first initiation, and I want to say, as I think about it, <wrap hide>357|00:38:23|020|00:38:27|980</wrap>that Vulcan and Pluto are active at quite a number of initiations. <wrap hide>358|00:38:29|440|00:38:34|740</wrap>They are both active at the second and the third, I believe, and at the fourth especially. <wrap hide>359|00:38:35|580|00:38:46|680</wrap>And even at the fifth, so the combination of these two first ray energies finds their way into a number of initiations. <wrap hide>360|00:38:46|940|00:38:50|620</wrap>You know, at the second initiation, will power takes over from desire, <wrap hide>361|00:38:51|240|00:38:56|700</wrap>and there is a cleansing and purging of the astral body under Pluto, but will over desire is Vulcan. <wrap hide>362|00:38:57|660|00:39:01|860</wrap>And at the third initiation, the blinding light of Vulcan breaks forth, <wrap hide>363|00:39:01|860|00:39:11|940</wrap>as Saint Paul experienced, and the Kundalini begins to rise, and that is related to Pluto. <wrap hide>364|00:39:12|660|00:39:19|840</wrap>The ancient authority of the personality is broken; the will power comes in very strongly, <wrap hide>365|00:39:20|480|00:39:24|960</wrap>and the depths are lifted up into the heights of the mountain top. <wrap hide>366|00:39:25|040|00:39:26|780</wrap>Everything is lifted up to the mountain top. <wrap hide>367|00:39:26|780|00:39:31|020</wrap>At the fourth initiation, the depths of aloneness are experienced, <wrap hide>368|00:39:32|700|00:39:38|060</wrap>and you know, the disciple at that time is in a way between a rock and a hard place. <wrap hide>369|00:39:38|680|00:39:41|660</wrap>This is the language of Vulcan. <wrap hide>370|00:39:41|860|00:39:48|240</wrap>You're coming in touch with the mineral kingdom; the jewel and the lotus, ruled by Vulcan, is being revealed. <wrap hide>371|00:39:49|960|00:39:53|520</wrap>The will to love is extremely strong. <wrap hide>372|00:39:54|020|00:39:57|380</wrap>The heart of the sun is coming in, and Vulcan is connected with that. <wrap hide>373|00:39:57|760|00:40:07|020</wrap>Vulcan has a number of different relationships, depending upon which of Vulcan's rays you may be considering. <wrap hide>374|00:40:08|700|00:40:15|920</wrap>So, Vulcan places the individual in a state of great aloneness, where he must depend upon his own will power. <wrap hide>375|00:40:16|040|00:40:21|740</wrap>And of course, Pluto is the power of death, and at that point, the personality is put to death, <wrap hide>376|00:40:21|740|00:40:28|020</wrap>and also the causal body is put to death, and Vulcan also contributes to the shattering of the causal body. <wrap hide>377|00:40:28|880|00:40:33|860</wrap>And when we come to the fifth initiation, that's the time when the base of the spine center, <wrap hide>378|00:40:35|140|00:40:41|320</wrap>Perhaps in a Maya Verrupa, but not necessarily, is most potently activated. <wrap hide>379|00:40:41|480|00:40:48|000</wrap>And Pluto rules this base of the spine center, and the rising of it, of its energy as Kundalini, <wrap hide>380|00:40:48|000|00:40:56|080</wrap>all the way to the highest head center, often ruled by Vulcan, and being a center of purpose. <wrap hide>381|00:40:57|080|00:41:01|860</wrap>The seven head centers are activated, the two higher head centers are activated, <wrap hide>382|00:41:02|080|00:41:08|140</wrap>Vulcan is involved in this, and this is mastership when the sun blazes forth, <wrap hide>383|00:41:08|420|00:41:13|740</wrap>and so often it is Vulcan that is veiled by the sun. <wrap hide>384|00:41:13|740|00:41:22|500</wrap>And so I think I have demonstrated in kind of a quick review how the combination of Vulcan and Pluto <wrap hide>385|00:41:22|500|00:41:30|180</wrap>are found at all the five initiations leading to and including mastership. <wrap hide>386|00:41:31|940|00:41:39|540</wrap><wrap quote>At the second initiation, the candidate comes under the influence of three planets: <wrap hide>387|00:41:40|600|00:41:43|340</wrap>Neptune, Venus, and Jupiter. <wrap hide>388|00:41:44|560|00:41:48|680</wrap>The three centers, the solar plexus, the heart and throat are actively involved.</wrap> <wrap hide>389|00:41:50|740|00:41:54|520</wrap>Yeah, it's been questioned, you know, what is stimulated at the first degree, <wrap hide>390|00:41:54|660|00:41:57|700</wrap>what is stimulated at the second degree by the one initiator, <wrap hide>391|00:41:57|740|00:42:06|260</wrap>and I would have to say that both the heart and throat are stimulated at both of these initiations. <wrap hide>392|00:42:06|260|00:42:14|200</wrap>Perhaps the birth of the Christ within the heart signals the importance of the heart center at the first initiation, <wrap hide>393|00:42:14|860|00:42:20|740</wrap>but the throat towards which the sacral energy has been raised is also of great importance. <wrap hide>394|00:42:22|560|00:42:28|420</wrap>At the second initiation, the throat center is very important because we have an intelligent disciple, <wrap hide>395|00:42:29|600|00:42:37|140</wrap>we have the spiritual intelligence and a degree of mental illumination that's related to the throat, <wrap hide>396|00:42:37|200|00:42:46|360</wrap>but we're dealing with a heart center activation because the astral body is no longer so full of personal desire. <wrap hide>397|00:42:46|580|00:42:53|100</wrap>We have a death of personal desire and love energy infusing the heart, <wrap hide>398|00:42:53|220|00:42:56|560</wrap>so therefore the heart center is active at the second initiation. <wrap hide>399|00:42:56|560|00:43:03|980</wrap>In this particular case, Neptune is ruling the solar plexus because it's a sixth-ray planet <wrap hide>400|00:43:03|980|00:43:07|460</wrap>and its second-ray nature is not considered in this context. <wrap hide>401|00:43:08|120|00:43:13|860</wrap>So these are the three. Much transfer of solar plexus to heart at the second degree <wrap hide>402|00:43:13|860|00:43:19|220</wrap>and much intelligent expression through the throat is involved. <wrap hide>403|00:43:19|220|00:43:26|480</wrap>It's not the full mental polarization which occurs between the second degree and the third, <wrap hide>404|00:43:26|720|00:43:34|120</wrap>midway between we are told, but it is at least a strong spiritual intelligence. <wrap hide>405|00:43:34|860|00:43:44|220</wrap>Now there is a place in Esoteric Psychology One, if I can find it, which deals... <wrap hide>406|00:43:45|080|00:43:50|020</wrap>Whoopsie, that's not what I wanted. Okay, now I'm going to have to try that again. <wrap hide>407|00:43:51|560|00:44:01|900</wrap>Right, what I want to do, I want the machine to respond here, yes, it's coming in its own good time, <wrap hide>408|00:44:02|900|00:44:14|220</wrap>Esoteric Psychology, and it will be Venus, Jupiter, and Neptune. <wrap hide>409|00:44:15|780|00:44:17|320</wrap>I'll spell that correctly. <wrap hide>410|00:44:19|760|00:44:25|720</wrap>Venus, Jupiter, let's just see, Venus and Jupiter, perhaps we'll find something there. <wrap hide>411|00:44:26|820|00:44:32|520</wrap>Venus and Jupiter in relation to the vegetable kingdom, and here it is. <wrap hide>412|00:44:33|200|00:44:35|740</wrap>This is page 246. <wrap hide>413|00:44:37|220|00:44:47|400</wrap>What we have, the second initiation, the training for the second initiation brings him under Neptunian influences, <wrap hide>414|00:44:47|540|00:44:48|960</wrap>that's why I couldn't find it under Neptune, <wrap hide>415|00:44:50|080|00:44:56|880</wrap>Neptunian influences, with Jupiter and Venus contending for control. <wrap hide>416|00:44:57|980|00:45:08|160</wrap>That is very interesting, because normally we think of these two quite second ray planets as quite cooperative with each other, <wrap hide>417|00:45:08|180|00:45:15|580</wrap>and in certain ways they may be, but in the ancient mythology, that which emanated from Venus, <wrap hide>418|00:45:15|580|00:45:29|280</wrap>and that which emanated from Jupiter, were fighting, and Venus was trying to raise the individual into the angelic state, <wrap hide>419|00:45:29|420|00:45:36|280</wrap>a more celibate state, and Jupiter was calling for the worship of the ancestral gods. <wrap hide>420|00:45:36|480|00:45:44|080</wrap>After all, Jupiter is exalted in the sign Cancer, which rules the four lunar vehicles, <wrap hide>421|00:45:44|080|00:45:50|820</wrap>the three major vehicles and the personality considered as the synthesis of all of them, the personality elemental. <wrap hide>422|00:45:51|680|00:46:03|280</wrap>So, he doesn't much say what this contending between them may be, whether they're fighting with each other, <wrap hide>423|00:46:03|340|00:46:12|380</wrap>or they're somehow trying to elevate Neptune, but let's just say there's a lot of second ray and sixth ray connected with all of these planets. <wrap hide>424|00:46:13|360|00:46:16|640</wrap>Neptune, a sixth ray soul and second ray monad. <wrap hide>425|00:46:16|740|00:46:27|360</wrap>Venus, a sixth ray sub-monad, and a second ray as the major monadic ray, I do believe, with maybe a second ray personality. <wrap hide>426|00:46:27|840|00:46:35|760</wrap>Jupiter, a second ray soul, and we might question the degree to which the sixth ray may be involved in its personality expression. <wrap hide>427|00:46:36|760|00:46:38|460</wrap>Sixth and seventh ray are both involved with Jupiter. <wrap hide>428|00:46:38|460|00:46:44|740</wrap>So, this is the other reference, then, concerning the second initiation. <wrap hide>429|00:46:47|840|00:46:55|880</wrap>Neptune will be the solar plexus. It has to be raised up to the heart, which I think will be ruled by Jupiter in this particular case. <wrap hide>430|00:46:56|900|00:47:03|100</wrap>So, a wider type of love will be required, and a wiser type of love as well. <wrap hide>431|00:47:03|100|00:47:11|340</wrap>And Venus will work on the illumination of the mind, and will represent the throat center in this particular case. <wrap hide>432|00:47:12|280|00:47:17|920</wrap>After all, Taurus does work through the throat center, and Venus is the ruler of Taurus. <wrap hide>433|00:47:18|060|00:47:25|120</wrap>So, Venus, we must say, relates to the throat center, and especially to the power to speak the word of the soul, <wrap hide>434|00:47:25|260|00:47:29|960</wrap>and to think the word of the soul, because Venus is relating to the solar angel. <wrap hide>435|00:47:29|960|00:47:37|320</wrap>So, the solar angel is beginning to imbue the intelligence at the second initiation, and this is Venus' task. <wrap hide>436|00:47:37|740|00:47:43|600</wrap>As well, it helps to tranquilize the astral vehicle. <wrap hide>437|00:47:44|760|00:47:50|240</wrap>You know, so, obviously we have to go on a search sometimes for other correlated references. <wrap hide>438|00:47:50|360|00:47:58|080</wrap>As a matter of fact, what I think I'll do is I'll copy this from Esoteric Astrology 246, <wrap hide>439|00:47:58|080|00:48:06|980</wrap>and I'll put it here, next to this quotation. We'll do it that way. <wrap hide>440|00:48:07|680|00:48:19|280</wrap>And that's EA 246. Of course, I should, in a way, make it red so it stands out from the others. <wrap hide>441|00:48:20|380|00:48:30|240</wrap>Okay, let's see if I can put this back in this way, too. Okay. And we'll do it that way. Yeah. <wrap hide>442|00:48:31|620|00:48:41|120</wrap>So, second initiation: many second and sixth ray planets. The changing of the character of the astral body is required. <wrap hide>443|00:48:41|120|00:48:48|300</wrap>And these planets are particularly suitable to bring tranquility to the astral body, <wrap hide>444|00:48:49|840|00:48:56|120</wrap>to bring the... make us subject to the light of the soul-illumined mind under Venus, <wrap hide>445|00:48:56|340|00:49:06|260</wrap>and to bring in that larger type of non-exclusive, or rather inclusive love that Jupiter brings. <wrap hide>446|00:49:06|260|00:49:14|460</wrap>Those are qualities of the second initiation. Then we go on here, at the third initiation. <wrap hide>447|00:49:16|180|00:49:27|660</wrap>So important, this page 70 and 71. I have reviewed this page so often, trying to fathom what is being said here. <wrap hide>448|00:49:27|660|00:49:35|900</wrap><wrap quote>At the third initiation, the moon, veiling a hidden planet, and Mars bring about a fearful conflict. <wrap hide>449|00:49:36|480|00:49:42|180</wrap>But at the end, the man is released from personality control.</wrap> Well, you know, Mars and Pluto are also active <wrap hide>450|00:49:42|180|00:49:48|120</wrap>in stirring things up at the second initiation. Those are things to be overcome. <wrap hide>451|00:49:48|120|00:49:58|300</wrap>But here they bring in a type of fear which probably arises... in this case I think it's Mars and Vulcan... <wrap hide>452|00:49:58|920|00:50:05|440</wrap>a type of fear that arises when we think of relinquishing the entire personality, <wrap hide>453|00:50:05|920|00:50:10|320</wrap>or at least living in a different center which we would call the soul center. <wrap hide>454|00:50:10|840|00:50:16|120</wrap>We do not yet relinquish the entire personality until the fourth degree, <wrap hide>455|00:50:16|120|00:50:23|160</wrap>but already we're seeing the handwriting on the wall. It says that the moon veils a hidden planet. <wrap hide>456|00:50:24|020|00:50:27|880</wrap>Well, you know, the moon can veil Uranus, or the moon can veil Neptune, or Vulcan, <wrap hide>457|00:50:28|320|00:50:33|540</wrap>but Uranus and Neptune are not hidden, and Vulcan is hidden. <wrap hide>458|00:50:34|060|00:50:39|740</wrap>So I do believe that it's kind of a combination between the moon and the sun at this point, <wrap hide>459|00:50:39|740|00:50:44|800</wrap>with Vulcan representing the sun, and the sun representing the soul. <wrap hide>460|00:50:45|060|00:50:52|340</wrap>So it's a kind of a merging of the personality and soul. Okay, degraded audio. <wrap hide>461|00:50:52|820|00:50:58|800</wrap>Alright, hopefully not. I will just continue the best I can as there's nothing else I can do, <wrap hide>462|00:50:59|660|00:51:03|120</wrap>except to find out that I've been moving my mouth and nothing has been coming out. <wrap hide>463|00:51:03|240|00:51:04|380</wrap>But hopefully that won't happen. <wrap hide>464|00:51:05|700|00:51:15|940</wrap>So, at the third initiation, the dominating soul life, symbolized by the sun, which is expressing Vulcan, <wrap hide>465|00:51:17|640|00:51:23|400</wrap>is brought into juxtaposition with the moon, representing the entire... all the lunar vehicles, <wrap hide>466|00:51:23|680|00:51:30|020</wrap>and in a way the lunar vehicles must be infused by the energy of the solar sun, <wrap hide>467|00:51:30|100|00:51:32|340</wrap>so we call that the soul-infused personality. <wrap hide>468|00:51:34|040|00:51:40|640</wrap>So, in a way, on the top we have a combination of the sun, Venus, which is the hierarchical ruler <wrap hide>469|00:51:40|640|00:51:44|960</wrap>at the third initiation in Capricorn: sun, Venus, and Vulcan on the top. <wrap hide>470|00:51:45|600|00:51:52|600</wrap>And then we have the moon on the bottom to be infused and controlled, directed and dominated by these energies. <wrap hide>471|00:51:53|360|00:51:59|600</wrap>And the moon and Mars represent the lunar vehicles, and the six creative hierarchies. <wrap hide>472|00:51:59|600|00:52:03|960</wrap>So the six creative hierarchies undergoing a very specific change at that time. <wrap hide>473|00:52:04|100|00:52:06|360</wrap>It is really finally dominated. <wrap hide>474|00:52:07|080|00:52:12|200</wrap>The moon represents all the lunar vehicles, all of them, and that is the dense physical. <wrap hide>475|00:52:12|640|00:52:20|360</wrap>It's related to the etheric and to the color violet, because those devas of the etheric planes, <wrap hide>476|00:52:20|560|00:52:24|240</wrap>They have a moon on their forehead, which also means they have a forehead, which is interesting. <wrap hide>477|00:52:24|240|00:52:31|080</wrap>The moon is obviously the astral nature, and the moon is the sensorium, the concrete mind. <wrap hide>478|00:52:31|220|00:52:36|700</wrap>So the moon is all four, and interestingly, Mars is all four of the lunar vehicles. <wrap hide>479|00:52:37|420|00:52:42|280</wrap>It is the dense physical body. It's not particularly related to the etheric body. <wrap hide>480|00:52:42|460|00:52:49|060</wrap>It is absolutely the astral body, and it is the lower mind, because it rules concrete science and the five senses. <wrap hide>481|00:52:49|060|00:52:56|000</wrap>So the entire personality, which is symbolized by moon and Mars, is being dominated by the luminous will <wrap hide>482|00:52:56|000|00:53:00|980</wrap>of Vulcan with the sun, and Venus also associated. <wrap hide>483|00:53:02|180|00:53:11|600</wrap>And that conflict, of course, is letting go, letting go of the grip of consciousness upon the personality. <wrap hide>484|00:53:12|680|00:53:17|880</wrap>There's a way in which we are so attached to our elemental life. <wrap hide>485|00:53:18|600|00:53:25|180</wrap>It is, in a sense, the not-self, but we consider it the self, and we're not willing to let go of it. <wrap hide>486|00:53:25|620|00:53:35|540</wrap>So the disciple is rising and falling and rising and falling, symbolized in the ancient Atlantean chant <wrap hide>487|00:53:36|540|00:53:40|460</wrap>by the bird which tries to fly free but always comes back to the branch. <wrap hide>488|00:53:40|600|00:53:46|520</wrap>And that also describes, in a way, the glyph of Aquarius, rising and falling, rising and falling, <wrap hide>489|00:53:46|520|00:53:51|400</wrap>with Aquarius prominent at the third initiation. <wrap hide>490|00:53:51|760|00:54:02|700</wrap>But anyway, when we've managed to use the, to overcome Mars and make him our servant, <wrap hide>491|00:54:03|380|00:54:10|500</wrap>a good soldier of brave, valorous personality, make it our servant, we being the spiritual will. <wrap hide>492|00:54:10|500|00:54:19|620</wrap>Vulcan is the spiritual will, and it overcomes all aspects of lower desire, desire for the lower realm. <wrap hide>493|00:54:19|860|00:54:26|300</wrap>So there's another conflict here between will and desire, just as there was in the second initiation, <wrap hide>494|00:54:26|520|00:54:32|940</wrap>a conflict between will and desire, and that's when will really begins to take over at that second initiation. <wrap hide>495|00:54:33|600|00:54:40|020</wrap>So at the end we are released from personality control, which would normally come under the impulses of Mars. <wrap hide>496|00:54:40|700|00:54:47|160</wrap>We no longer follow those impulses; we no longer run with what the lunar vehicles indicate. <wrap hide>497|00:54:50|780|00:54:55|260</wrap>Okay, now at the fourth initiation, we visit Mercury and Saturn again. <wrap hide>498|00:54:55|260|00:55:06|500</wrap>This is different from the way Mercury and Saturn operated on the path simply of discipleship or accepted discipleship. <wrap hide>499|00:55:06|600|00:55:13|580</wrap>It's a higher type of expression. We're no longer dealing with discrimination per se, <wrap hide>500|00:55:14|900|00:55:18|240</wrap>well, what he calls it illumination and opportunity. <wrap hide>501|00:55:18|280|00:55:23|260</wrap>We're not dealing quite with the same things, but with higher expressions, which I'll try to explain. <wrap hide>502|00:55:23|260|00:55:30|960</wrap>At the fourth initiation, <wrap quote>Mercury and Saturn again bring about great changes and a unique revelation,</wrap> <wrap hide>503|00:55:32|680|00:55:39|040</wrap>I suppose the revelation of the cosmic ethers, and the revelation of the transcendental mind. <wrap hide>504|00:55:39|580|00:55:42|500</wrap><wrap quote>But their effect is very different to the earlier experience.</wrap> <wrap hide>505|00:55:42|740|00:55:48|160</wrap>So, as a disciple we have a discriminating mind, we are seeking the light, we are facing our karma, <wrap hide>506|00:55:48|180|00:55:51|240</wrap>all of that is Mercury and Saturn fulfilling our dharma. <wrap hide>507|00:55:51|240|00:56:00|480</wrap>But here, Mercury is the Buddhic plane, and Saturn represents all of the lower three planes, <wrap hide>508|00:56:00|740|00:56:05|300</wrap>the dense physical nature, and it represents the complete fulfillment of the dharma, <wrap hide>509|00:56:05|740|00:56:11|820</wrap>and the using of the scythe to separate the essential inner man. <wrap hide>510|00:56:11|820|00:56:22|180</wrap>Saturn has that cutting motion; it separates the realm of Uranus from its own lower realm, Saturn. <wrap hide>511|00:56:22|880|00:56:29|200</wrap>So Mercury is bringing in the illumination of the spiritual triad from the Buddhic plane, <wrap hide>512|00:56:29|360|00:56:37|620</wrap>which correlates with the fourth initiation. Fourth plane, fourth initiation, man is released into the transcendental mind, <wrap hide>513|00:56:37|620|00:56:46|180</wrap>the intuition of the spiritual triad, and of the Buddhic plane, and that comes under Mercury, <wrap hide>514|00:56:46|500|00:56:51|500</wrap>a higher type of illumination. It's no longer the sun of mind, no longer the concrete mind, <wrap hide>515|00:56:51|780|00:57:02|920</wrap>it's not even the abstract mind. It is the intuitive mind which blazes forth with that great heart stimulation at the fourth degree. <wrap hide>516|00:57:02|920|00:57:11|160</wrap>And Saturn is again the spiritual will; it is the ruler of the etheric plane, <wrap hide>517|00:57:11|840|00:57:23|680</wrap>and it is complete control and complete subservience, the complete submission to one's dharma, to one's true destiny. <wrap hide>518|00:57:24|780|00:57:37|300</wrap>So there is here a kind of a buddhi-manas combination, and you have fulfilled your karma with respect to the lower worlds, under Saturn. <wrap hide>519|00:57:38|700|00:57:48|100</wrap>A great deal of karma is fulfilled by the time the third degree is taken, but there is much of karma that a man takes upon himself at the fourth degree, <wrap hide>520|00:57:48|100|00:57:56|620</wrap>which may be planetary in nature. And so there is a sacrificial submission to planetary karma under Saturn, <wrap hide>521|00:57:56|820|00:58:07|280</wrap>and a great illumination of the triadic intuition and the triadic mind, which helps you think of yourself, not as an individual, but in planetary terms. <wrap hide>522|00:58:08|380|00:58:16|260</wrap>Remember that Saturn does rule the atmic plane and the hierarchy of triads with which a man comes into contact. <wrap hide>523|00:58:16|260|00:58:29|500</wrap>So in a way, the human being is sensing very much of his monadic nature, which is ruled by Mercury, which is the ruler of the hierarchy of human monads, <wrap hide>524|00:58:29|840|00:58:38|420</wrap>and the triads are coming into power under Saturn, and that is a different kind of influence than in the lower realms. <wrap hide>525|00:58:38|420|00:58:48|300</wrap>We see how many things Saturn can be. We may have just a little time here, not much, not much at all. <wrap hide>526|00:58:48|460|00:58:59|940</wrap>As a matter of fact, I think I... let's save it for later. We have this marvelous discussion of the fifth initiation and Uranus and Jupiter, but I'll come back to that. <wrap hide>527|00:59:00|900|00:59:20|980</wrap>So here this is Esoteric Astrology Adventure, and it is number 32, and we have gone from page 68 to page 71. <wrap hide>528|00:59:21|780|00:59:30|100</wrap>We're actually sometimes making progress of three pages per adventure, so we are doing well. <wrap hide>529|00:59:31|660|00:59:43|160</wrap>Okay, and here is The Great Invocation. From the point... from the point. The point doesn't have two i's; that's the problem. <wrap hide>530|00:59:46|180|00:59:51|160</wrap>Alright, so our Great Invocation now. <wrap hide>531|00:59:58|920|00:59:59|800</wrap>Om. <wrap hide>532|01:00:05|460|01:00:16|760</wrap>From the point of light within the mind of God, let light stream forth into the minds of men. Let light descend on Earth. <wrap hide>533|01:00:20|080|01:00:31|020</wrap>From the point of love within the heart of God, let love stream forth into the hearts of men. May Christ return to Earth. <wrap hide>534|01:00:33|940|01:00:44|880</wrap>From the center where the will of God is known, let purpose guide the little wills of men—the purpose which the masters know and serve. <wrap hide>535|01:00:48|560|01:01:00|880</wrap>From the center which we call the race of men, let the plan of love and light work out, and may it seal the door where evil dwells. <wrap hide>536|01:01:02|680|01:01:09|060</wrap>Let light and love and power restore the plan on Earth. <wrap hide>537|01:01:13|660|01:01:15|060</wrap>Om. <wrap hide>538|01:01:15|060|01:01:17|400</wrap>Om. <wrap hide>539|01:01:23|420|01:01:24|820</wrap>Om. <wrap hide>540|01:01:24|820|01:01:27|160</wrap>Om. <wrap hide>541|01:01:33|920|01:01:35|320</wrap>Om. <wrap hide>542|01:01:38|740|01:01:40|140</wrap>Om. <wrap hide>543|01:01:47|340|01:01:51|440</wrap>Okay friends, there we are. <wrap hide>544|01:01:54|300|01:02:10|180</wrap>And we are now concluding Esoteric Astrology Adventure number 32, and we will continue with mastership, and the Jupiter and Uranus relationship to that particular initiation—amazing initiation. <wrap hide>545|01:02:11|080|01:02:19|080</wrap>And it's so interesting that those two planets should be together as they were in the chart of H.P.B., just a conjunction in Aquarius. Quite amazing. <wrap hide>546|01:02:19|080|01:02:23|780</wrap>Okay, we will see you before long. Okay, take care.
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