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-<wrap hide>1|00:00:07|220|00:00:10|180</wrap>Okay, hello everybody. <wrap hide>2|00:00:10|840|00:00:17|740</wrap>It's been about a month since it's been possible to work on these Esoteric Astrology adventures. <wrap hide>3|00:00:17|740|00:00:36|980</wrap>We are now up to the 40th in this series, and we ended discussing the seven rays and the signs through which they manifest. <wrap hide>4|00:00:39|220|00:00:52|560</wrap>And one very important aspect of this is to realize that it is not only the ruling planets which conduct the rays. <wrap hide>5|00:00:52|740|00:01:00|620</wrap>For instance, Vulcan and Pluto are ray one planets, and indeed they do conduct the first ray. <wrap hide>6|00:01:00|620|00:01:10|460</wrap>But because we have a situation in which the first ray passes through Aries, Leo, and Capricorn, <wrap hide>7|00:01:11|220|00:01:22|460</wrap>therefore the rulers of Aries, Leo, and Capricorn are also related directly to transmitting the first ray. <wrap hide>8|00:01:22|460|00:01:30|840</wrap>For instance, the first ray will strangely not only come through Mars, which has a lot of the first ray perhaps on the solar level, <wrap hide>9|00:01:31|300|00:01:35|720</wrap>but will come through Mercury, which doesn't have any first ray at all, and yet it will be a transmitter. <wrap hide>10|00:01:36|620|00:01:45|000</wrap>That the first ray would come through Leo and the Sun seems reasonable because the highest form of fire comes from the Sun. <wrap hide>11|00:01:45|000|00:01:52|940</wrap>It is solar fire, and even electric fire in our solar system is a subset of that type of fire. <wrap hide>12|00:01:54|580|00:02:05|220</wrap>And through Capricorn the goat, yes indeed, because Saturn is a planet that conducts the first ray, but normally it's conducting only the third ray. <wrap hide>13|00:02:05|220|00:02:16|940</wrap>And so it goes with all of these rays passing through the various rulers of the signs. <wrap hide>14|00:02:17|440|00:02:29|380</wrap>What we have listed here in this tabulation are the Orthodox rulers, Exoteric, and the Esoteric rulers. <wrap hide>15|00:02:29|380|00:02:38|180</wrap>And we see that Love Wisdom not only passes through Jupiter and the Sun, which are two so-called planets that carry the second ray, <wrap hide>16|00:02:38|280|00:02:45|880</wrap>but also passes through Mercury and Venus and the Moon and Jupiter and Pluto. <wrap hide>17|00:02:46|120|00:02:55|980</wrap>So even a first ray planet like Pluto ends up being a conductor of the second ray. <wrap hide>18|00:02:55|980|00:03:07|520</wrap>So we have to <wrap quote>bear</wrap> this in mind. There are so many different methods, so many different conduits, via which the rays can reach our planet and humanity. <wrap hide>19|00:03:08|260|00:03:12|300</wrap>Active Intelligence, we would expect it to come through the Earth and Saturn, and indeed it does. <wrap hide>20|00:03:12|980|00:03:24|280</wrap>But it also passes through the Moon, which is strongly related to matter and the third ray, and its constant changeability suggests the third ray, <wrap hide>21|00:03:24|280|00:03:33|100</wrap>but through Neptune as well, with its three-pronged trident, through Uranus, which has a third ray association, but through Venus as well, <wrap hide>22|00:03:33|820|00:03:45|820</wrap>which can be considered in a way the monadic permanent atom in relation to our planetary Logos and within the solar Logoic system. <wrap hide>23|00:03:46|720|00:04:01|360</wrap>When we look at the three major planets of this present period, which are said to be Saturn, Jupiter, and Venus, then in their present functions, Venus does represent Manus. <wrap hide>24|00:04:02|180|00:04:08|120</wrap>And of course the third ray passes through Saturn, which makes perfect sense as it is a third ray planet. <wrap hide>25|00:04:08|120|00:04:25|000</wrap>But you see what I'm trying to say here is that the esoteric and orthodox rulers of a sign do conduct the rays which pass through that sign. <wrap hide>26|00:04:25|000|00:04:38|300</wrap>And we should really make another tabulation to show which rays pass through all the planets. Probably we could do that, you know, off the top of our head possibly. <wrap hide>27|00:04:39|240|00:04:50|140</wrap>The fourth ray is passing through Venus. The fourth ray affiliated with Taurus, Scorpio, and Sagittarius passes through Venus, which has much to do with the equilibrizing and harmonizing force, <wrap hide>28|00:04:50|140|00:05:05|600</wrap>which doesn't seem so strange, and through Vulcan, which may very well have a fourth ray monad or at least a fourth ray sub-monad as the ultimate monadic ray for all beings has to be the first, second, or third. <wrap hide>29|00:05:07|240|00:05:11|140</wrap>The fourth ray is passing through Mars. There's plenty of conflict there, not much harmony. <wrap hide>30|00:05:11|140|00:05:22|840</wrap>And the fourth ray, interestingly, is passing through Jupiter, which oftentimes looks like the number four as you draw it. I guess it'll look backwards here as I kind of draw that. <wrap hide>31|00:05:23|240|00:05:27|120</wrap>And the fourth ray passing through the Earth, which has the cross as its symbol. <wrap hide>32|00:05:27|120|00:05:42|500</wrap>But normally Jupiter and the Earth and Mars and normally Vulcan and Venus don't transmit the fourth ray at all, and yet they must because that is the way the ray will reach from the constellation through planets to us. <wrap hide>33|00:05:44|060|00:05:47|120</wrap>Let's see, additionally... <wrap hide>34|00:05:49|580|00:05:56|340</wrap>Just checking here as it's been a while since I've done this, and it does seem to be operating, which is good. <wrap hide>35|00:05:57|520|00:06:04|160</wrap>And the fifth ray passes through the Sun. Well, all the rays pass through the Sun. You know, fifth ray is associated with Leo, Sagittarius, and Aquarius. <wrap hide>36|00:06:04|160|00:06:12|400</wrap>And I think I've spoken that Aquarius is the coming sign which will transmit the majority of the fifth ray. <wrap hide>37|00:06:13|600|00:06:19|360</wrap>But Leo presently is the sign which maximally expresses the fifth ray. <wrap hide>38|00:06:19|700|00:06:30|080</wrap>So passing through the Sun, the Sun doesn't have very much fifth ray about it, although it is aspiring to the status of Sirius, which has much fifth ray about it. <wrap hide>39|00:06:30|080|00:06:36|760</wrap>Just as the Earth is aspiring to the status of Venus, which has much fifth ray about it. <wrap hide>40|00:06:37|000|00:06:43|820</wrap>So one day before long, both the Sun and the Earth will express the fifth ray more fully. <wrap hide>41|00:06:44|540|00:06:50|940</wrap>Fifth ray coming through Jupiter as the root of Sagittarius - not much fifth ray there, but still it's a point of transmission. <wrap hide>42|00:06:50|940|00:06:55|600</wrap>And through the Earth, as I explained one day, that fifth ray will be there right now. <wrap hide>43|00:06:55|900|00:07:05|660</wrap>The planetary Logos of the Earth is fighting a battle, we are told, on the cosmic astral plane, on the fourth sub-plane of the cosmic astral plane, <wrap hide>44|00:07:05|680|00:07:11|120</wrap>but is moving towards polarization on the fifth level, the fifth from below. <wrap hide>45|00:07:11|120|00:07:24|660</wrap>And that would give an intense type of focus and a higher luminosity and may well occur when the Earth takes its fifth subsidiary initiation, <wrap hide>46|00:07:25|440|00:07:31|960</wrap>as is shown or hinted in Cosmic Fire, page 384. <wrap hide>47|00:07:33|540|00:07:40|700</wrap>Aquarius signs, the ray of signs passing through Aquarius - of course, through Uranus, yes, there's much fifth ray in Uranus. <wrap hide>48|00:07:40|700|00:07:46|840</wrap>And through Jupiter, again, not really, but yet it does pass through. <wrap hide>49|00:07:47|380|00:07:50|360</wrap>Remember that all the planets have all the rays. <wrap hide>50|00:07:51|320|00:07:59|760</wrap>It's a bit like saying all the human chakras have all the rays, which can be expressed through them, <wrap hide>51|00:07:59|780|00:08:07|660</wrap>but there are some rays which are more focal within a particular planet than other rays. <wrap hide>52|00:08:07|660|00:08:18|000</wrap>We come to the sixth ray passing through Virgo, Sagittarius and Pisces, and strangely we have the sixth ray passing through Mercury. <wrap hide>53|00:08:18|500|00:08:25|000</wrap>There's not much of the sixth ray there - it's a very rational planet in a way, but it does express along the 2, 4, 6 line. <wrap hide>54|00:08:25|680|00:08:35|620</wrap>The sixth ray coming through the Moon - we can relate it to the idea that the Moon is one of the rulers of the Lunar Lords, <wrap hide>55|00:08:35|620|00:08:44|580</wrap>which is the sixth creative hierarchy, and the sixth is an important number of form, and the Moon is the mother of the form. <wrap hide>56|00:08:45|360|00:08:53|220</wrap>See, I'm giving justifications here for how the rays might be related to the planet through which they are passing, <wrap hide>57|00:08:53|420|00:09:03|520</wrap>and yet the fact that they do pass through the planet will operate whether or not the planet has real affinity for the ray. <wrap hide>58|00:09:03|520|00:09:14|780</wrap>It does have affinity for the sign - the ruler or the Logos of the particular planet will be related to the ruler or Logos of the constellation, <wrap hide>59|00:09:14|880|00:09:20|960</wrap>and that is a solid relationship, but the ray relationship may not be conventional or expected. <wrap hide>60|00:09:21|560|00:09:33|440</wrap>Sixth ray passing through Jupiter - yes, I've often speculated that one of the rays of Jupiter may be the uplifting, enthusiastic, uprising sixth ray. <wrap hide>61|00:09:34|080|00:09:36|860</wrap>On some level, Jupiter seems to suggest that. <wrap hide>62|00:09:37|820|00:09:45|740</wrap>And then there is the Earth and its sixth ray. Well, certainly the Earth is under the spell at the moment of the 666, <wrap hide>63|00:09:46|400|00:09:52|520</wrap>which is the physical body of the planetary Logos and the eighteen sub-planes. <wrap hide>64|00:09:53|220|00:10:02|960</wrap>Three sixes are eighteen, and that is precisely the lunar nature of our planetary Logos, his dense physical body. <wrap hide>65|00:10:03|720|00:10:07|220</wrap>Sixth ray passing through Pluto - well, Pluto has much to do with the solar plexus, <wrap hide>66|00:10:07|800|00:10:14|080</wrap>and we're told that there is the disappearance into Hades, <wrap hide>67|00:10:14|400|00:10:21|640</wrap>which is connected with the solar plexus of many of the problems associated with the human being. <wrap hide>68|00:10:22|040|00:10:30|740</wrap>So there is a kind of a cutting off of solar plexus reaction via Pluto. <wrap hide>69|00:10:30|740|00:10:36|240</wrap>I wondered whether it might not be the sixth ray, one of the higher rays of Pluto, <wrap hide>70|00:10:36|420|00:10:44|820</wrap>with the first ray being particularly the exoteric ruler. <wrap hide>71|00:10:45|800|00:10:49|740</wrap>Finally, we come to the seventh ray associated with Aries, Cancer and Capricorn. <wrap hide>72|00:10:52|140|00:10:58|260</wrap>Well, regimentation through Aries and the protection of the form via the lowest vessel in Cancer. <wrap hide>73|00:10:58|260|00:11:04|620</wrap>I think I already did discuss the ways in which the rays particularly relate to the signs of the zodiac. <wrap hide>74|00:11:04|840|00:11:08|780</wrap>I hope I did discuss that. Can't review all that right now. <wrap hide>75|00:11:08|960|00:11:11|600</wrap>And the majority of the seventh ray coming through Capricorn. <wrap hide>76|00:11:12|180|00:11:20|360</wrap>But the seventh ray comes through Mars - well, it's a planet which has much opposition to the seventh ray <wrap hide>77|00:11:20|360|00:11:25|980</wrap>because it's so impulsive, and yet there is a spirit of regimentation going along with Mars, <wrap hide>78|00:11:25|980|00:11:33|220</wrap>which suggests the seventh ray. As for Mercury, it's not a very grounding planet as the seventh ray is, <wrap hide>79|00:11:33|320|00:11:41|740</wrap>and yet it has a similarity with the seventh ray in as much as it links high spaces with low spaces, <wrap hide>80|00:11:41|760|00:11:45|440</wrap>and the ultimate statement of the seventh ray is the highest and the lowest meet. <wrap hide>81|00:11:47|300|00:11:54|040</wrap>The moon is very much connected with the seventh ray and with violet, the moon's color in a sense, <wrap hide>82|00:11:54|040|00:12:00|640</wrap>and with measuring time via the phases of the moon and with providing the vessel. <wrap hide>83|00:12:01|300|00:12:02|980</wrap>Can the seventh ray be connected with Neptune? <wrap hide>84|00:12:03|360|00:12:10|120</wrap>Well, normally one would think it cannot because it has so much of the 2-4-6 line, <wrap hide>85|00:12:10|300|00:12:19|760</wrap>And yet there is a point in, is it on page 300, I'm not sure, of Esoteric Astrology <wrap hide>86|00:12:19|760|00:12:25|020</wrap>where the Neptune is associated with the base of the spine center, <wrap hide>87|00:12:26|100|00:12:28|740</wrap>and there is a point at which Vulcan and Neptune come into opposition, <wrap hide>88|00:12:28|980|00:12:32|940</wrap>and Vulcan represents the head center, and I suspect Neptune the base of the spine. <wrap hide>89|00:12:33|680|00:12:44|280</wrap>I believe that may be on page 300 of Esoteric Astrology. We can check that as we go along. <wrap hide>90|00:12:44|400|00:12:46|420</wrap>We certainly will reach it as we go through this book. <wrap hide>91|00:12:47|000|00:12:50|500</wrap>Capricorn and Saturn, yes, well Saturn rules the entire cosmic physical plane. <wrap hide>92|00:12:51|440|00:12:58|880</wrap>It rules also the physical etheric sub-plane of the cosmic physical plane, <wrap hide>93|00:12:59|000|00:13:05|400</wrap>so yes, naturally there is a connection with the seventh ray and Saturn. <wrap hide>94|00:13:07|000|00:13:09|240</wrap>I'm just going to take a quick look here if possible. <wrap hide>95|00:13:09|320|00:13:12|180</wrap>This happens during classes all the time, so please forgive me. <wrap hide>96|00:13:12|180|00:13:16|660</wrap>I go searching for something. Well, there it is. I thought it was. <wrap hide>97|00:13:17|600|00:13:22|900</wrap>I thought it was. It's on, no, it's not page 300. It might be page 330. <wrap hide>98|00:13:25|980|00:13:30|380</wrap>Well, there it is. There it is. It is on page 301. <wrap hide>99|00:13:31|700|00:13:37|940</wrap>We see that the Sun, possibly veiling Vulcan, represents the head. <wrap hide>100|00:13:37|940|00:13:46|240</wrap>The heart is Uranus, and Neptune is the base of the spine, interestingly enough. <wrap hide>101|00:13:47|380|00:13:51|920</wrap>So Neptune does relate to the faculty of desire, <wrap hide>102|00:13:53|100|00:13:57|000</wrap>and desire is that which is necessary if there's going to be any manifestation whatsoever. <wrap hide>103|00:13:57|000|00:14:02|620</wrap>Also Neptune is the hierarchical ruler of Cancer, <wrap hide>104|00:14:02|920|00:14:08|260</wrap>which is the lowest of the hierarchies on the cosmic astral plane, <wrap hide>105|00:14:08|440|00:14:14|340</wrap>and which is responsible for precipitation, again, onto the cosmic physical plane. <wrap hide>106|00:14:14|420|00:14:19|960</wrap>Anyway, I think I did discuss these a bit. It's been about a month, <wrap hide>107|00:14:21|480|00:14:25|060</wrap>but if I repeated myself just a bit, I'm sorry. <wrap hide>108|00:14:25|060|00:14:27|420</wrap>Perhaps some new information has come through. <wrap hide>109|00:14:28|640|00:14:36|680</wrap>Now we are essentially rolling into page 86, and the Tibetan is saying, <wrap hide>110|00:14:38|220|00:14:41|900</wrap>let's make this just a little, little bigger. <wrap hide>111|00:14:43|260|00:14:45|480</wrap>Okay, okay, just a little bigger. <wrap hide>112|00:14:46|960|00:14:52|620</wrap>Whoops. Oh, page 86. Let's see if I can find that. <wrap hide>113|00:14:52|620|00:14:57|500</wrap>Sorry for the slight, slight delay here. <wrap hide>114|00:14:59|900|00:15:04|540</wrap>Okay, okay. Aha, we were farther than we should be. <wrap hide>115|00:15:05|760|00:15:07|080</wrap>All right. <wrap hide>116|00:15:12|280|00:15:13|440</wrap>Just about there. <wrap hide>117|00:15:16|320|00:15:21|620</wrap>It's not always easy to go back to where you should be, <wrap hide>118|00:15:24|360|00:15:26|600</wrap>because sometimes... yeah, there we are. Okay. <wrap hide>119|00:15:29|140|00:15:36|280</wrap>So, D.K. tells us <wrap quote>it will be obvious to you how much correlating work <wrap hide>120|00:15:36|280|00:15:40|800</wrap>and how much readjustment of ideas will be needed <wrap hide>121|00:15:40|800|00:15:44|040</wrap>as the new astrology is worked out into practical usefulness <wrap hide>122|00:15:44|040|00:15:49|420</wrap>and eventually substituted for that which is now holding sway.</wrap> <wrap hide>123|00:15:49|520|00:15:51|760</wrap>When I first read this, I was really excited, <wrap hide>124|00:15:52|020|00:15:55|640</wrap>because, you know, just a piece of personal astrology here, <wrap hide>125|00:15:55|760|00:15:59|760</wrap>I have Mercury on the Midheaven, Mercury, fourth ray Mercury, <wrap hide>126|00:15:59|900|00:16:05|600</wrap>involved in correlation, the fifth, the Midheaven being the place <wrap hide>127|00:16:05|600|00:16:08|440</wrap>of the individual's dharma in a particular incarnation. <wrap hide>128|00:16:08|440|00:16:11|960</wrap>So I thought perhaps I might be involved in this correlating work, <wrap hide>129|00:16:12|220|00:16:17|580</wrap>as correlation is one of the things I like to do the most, <wrap hide>130|00:16:18|300|00:16:22|340</wrap>and eventually the synthesis of all the relations begins to appear <wrap hide>131|00:16:22|340|00:16:29|940</wrap>and the field of pure reason is revealed, or pure reason reveals the field, <wrap hide>132|00:16:30|760|00:16:34|720</wrap>and all the relationships in the great science of relations <wrap hide>133|00:16:34|720|00:16:38|520</wrap>stand forth with increasing clarity. <wrap hide>134|00:16:39|060|00:16:42|880</wrap>As for readjustment of ideas, well, I don't know whether it's better <wrap hide>135|00:16:42|880|00:16:49|220</wrap>to study normal astrology before studying esoteric astrology, <wrap hide>136|00:16:49|220|00:16:53|180</wrap>or whether it's not. The mind can certainly become cluttered <wrap hide>137|00:16:53|180|00:16:59|000</wrap>by lesser ideas of quite a concrete nature, <wrap hide>138|00:16:59|000|00:17:05|980</wrap>and that cluttering can inhibit for a long time <wrap hide>139|00:17:05|980|00:17:11|080</wrap>the assimilation of the new ideas. <wrap hide>140|00:17:11|200|00:17:15|020</wrap>At the same time, there are certain things in classical astrology <wrap hide>141|00:17:15|020|00:17:19|500</wrap>which really help the student know what Master D.K. is talking about. <wrap hide>142|00:17:19|660|00:17:24|640</wrap>Obviously, he knows classical astrology very well, <wrap hide>143|00:17:24|640|00:17:29|320</wrap>but has chosen not to emphasize it because the newer ideas <wrap hide>144|00:17:29|320|00:17:30|820</wrap>are the ones that have to come through. <wrap hide>145|00:17:31|480|00:17:36|380</wrap>I think it took me many years before I could begin to adjust <wrap hide>146|00:17:37|360|00:17:40|540</wrap>the concepts that I had absorbed in classical astrology <wrap hide>147|00:17:40|540|00:17:43|880</wrap>with the new incoming ones from esoteric astrology, <wrap hide>148|00:17:44|340|00:17:49|120</wrap>and I've seen quite a number of practitioners of esoteric astrology <wrap hide>149|00:17:49|120|00:17:53|240</wrap>understanding the theory pretty well, <wrap hide>150|00:17:53|460|00:18:01|080</wrap>but not understanding how it might be applied to the lives of people <wrap hide>151|00:18:01|080|00:18:04|520</wrap>they try to help, applied in a practical way, <wrap hide>152|00:18:04|540|00:18:06|340</wrap>and that may take some time. <wrap hide>153|00:18:06|460|00:18:11|340</wrap>And also remember, when you're trying to help people with esoteric astrology, <wrap hide>154|00:18:12|840|00:18:17|460</wrap>it's not the normal personality-centered individual <wrap hide>155|00:18:17|460|00:18:21|860</wrap>that you are seeking to aid with this more advanced type of astrology. <wrap hide>156|00:18:22|020|00:18:24|480</wrap>Otherwise, the interpretations will fail <wrap hide>157|00:18:24|480|00:18:27|920</wrap>because they have not reached a point <wrap hide>158|00:18:28|460|00:18:32|660</wrap>where that type of astrology is really relevant to them. <wrap hide>159|00:18:33|420|00:18:37|160</wrap>Anyway, we've had approximately 80 years here, <wrap hide>160|00:18:37|700|00:18:42|860</wrap>and these 80 years should have seen quite a growth <wrap hide>161|00:18:42|860|00:18:45|740</wrap>in the applicability of esoteric astrology. <wrap hide>162|00:18:46|340|00:18:47|680</wrap>D.K. goes on to say, <wrap hide>163|00:18:47|880|00:18:51|620</wrap>"The <wrap quote>new astrology really embodies five sciences." <wrap hide>164|00:18:52|680|00:18:54|600</wrap>The science of the rays.</wrap> <wrap hide>165|00:18:55|200|00:18:59|360</wrap>Well, I think you can tell by the way we've been approaching this, <wrap hide>166|00:18:59|580|00:19:03|200</wrap>and also, more importantly, how D.K. writes, <wrap hide>167|00:19:03|740|00:19:08|360</wrap>that the rays are inseparable from the study of esoteric astrology. <wrap hide>168|00:19:08|520|00:19:11|380</wrap>I always say that the rays are here in the right hand, <wrap hide>169|00:19:11|440|00:19:13|760</wrap>astrology is here in the left hand, <wrap hide>170|00:19:13|760|00:19:17|040</wrap>and these two absolutely have to be combined <wrap hide>171|00:19:17|040|00:19:23|620</wrap>for a deeper understanding of the true soul or psyche of man <wrap hide>172|00:19:23|620|00:19:29|280</wrap>as it expresses within the personality. <wrap hide>173|00:19:30|160|00:19:33|340</wrap>So, every astrological factor that we can think of <wrap hide>174|00:19:33|340|00:19:37|620</wrap>certainly has its ray correlation, <wrap hide>175|00:19:38|080|00:19:41|660</wrap>and these we are attempting to master. <wrap hide>176|00:19:41|660|00:19:46|400</wrap>The planets have the rays which are transmitted through them, <wrap hide>177|00:19:47|440|00:19:50|940</wrap>and the science of the zodiac have that as well, <wrap hide>178|00:19:51|260|00:19:56|060</wrap>and the solar Logoi have rays, <wrap hide>179|00:19:56|320|00:20:00|660</wrap>and I wouldn't be surprised—I do think that the great constellations, <wrap hide>180|00:20:01|480|00:20:04|360</wrap>which are centers in the one about whom naught may be said, <wrap hide>181|00:20:04|880|00:20:05|820</wrap>have their own rays. <wrap hide>182|00:20:05|920|00:20:08|120</wrap>Of course, all of them, but some of them emphasized. <wrap hide>183|00:20:08|120|00:20:12|260</wrap>See, every chakra, all rays, but some emphasized. <wrap hide>184|00:20:12|940|00:20:16|320</wrap>This is how I choose to look at it, and I think it's fairly accurate. <wrap hide>185|00:20:16|760|00:20:20|920</wrap>And ultimately, this great universal septenate, <wrap hide>186|00:20:21|040|00:20:29|420</wrap>you might say, coming from a great universal septenate. <wrap hide>187|00:20:33|120|00:20:37|500</wrap>And we probably don't call that universal septenate the seven rays. <wrap hide>188|00:20:37|500|00:20:40|600</wrap>When they come from the Great Bear, we call them the seven rays, <wrap hide>189|00:20:40|820|00:20:47|520</wrap>but they are the ultimate prototypes of what we call the seven rays. <wrap hide>190|00:20:48|940|00:20:52|860</wrap>So, esoteric astrology has certainly the science of the rays. <wrap hide>191|00:20:53|540|00:20:57|320</wrap>It also has the science of esoteric interpretation, <wrap hide>192|00:20:58|200|00:21:03|840</wrap>which means that the—okay, I may be experiencing degrading audio. <wrap hide>193|00:21:04|820|00:21:07|480</wrap>Hopefully, that is not the case. <wrap hide>194|00:21:08|740|00:21:10|920</wrap>So far everything looks okay. <wrap hide>195|00:21:12|200|00:21:14|760</wrap>You let me know. Sometimes it's very disappointing, you know. <wrap hide>196|00:21:14|800|00:21:20|820</wrap>I make these long programs, even a whole class, <wrap hide>197|00:21:21|560|00:21:24|000</wrap>and it turns out that the webinar did not take, <wrap hide>198|00:21:24|140|00:21:25|900</wrap>or there's some technical problem. <wrap hide>199|00:21:26|180|00:21:30|180</wrap>Well, it's loss, but all loss is minimal <wrap hide>200|00:21:30|180|00:21:33|580</wrap>when compared to eternal possibility. <wrap hide>201|00:21:35|100|00:21:39|140</wrap>So, the science of esoteric interpretation is applied specifically <wrap hide>202|00:21:39|140|00:21:44|280</wrap>to an understanding of the ways of the soul, <wrap hide>203|00:21:45|060|00:21:46|980</wrap>or the ego on the higher mental plane, <wrap hide>204|00:21:48|040|00:21:54|620</wrap>the ways of that ego within and through the three aspects of the personality, <wrap hide>205|00:21:55|380|00:21:58|200</wrap>and through the personality as a unity itself. <wrap hide>206|00:21:58|200|00:22:05|320</wrap>So, we're not interested in specific outcomes in the world of form, <wrap hide>207|00:22:05|440|00:22:09|620</wrap>unless they affect the growth of consciousness. <wrap hide>208|00:22:10|060|00:22:16|680</wrap>The whole study of esoteric astrology is about the growth of consciousness. <wrap hide>209|00:22:18|580|00:22:24|520</wrap>Now, this esoteric interpretation will be carried out through the science of triangles, <wrap hide>210|00:22:24|520|00:22:30|360</wrap>the vast science, which we will discuss as we make our way towards page 404, <wrap hide>211|00:22:30|640|00:22:33|420</wrap>or approximately—I hope we can last that long. <wrap hide>212|00:22:34|340|00:22:40|120</wrap>And this—everything is triangulated, and the three aspects of divinity <wrap hide>213|00:22:40|120|00:22:45|320</wrap>are everywhere found in relation to every type of entity. <wrap hide>214|00:22:45|500|00:22:47|660</wrap>An entity is a unity, but it's also a three. <wrap hide>215|00:22:48|580|00:22:53|880</wrap>There's kind of a trinitization going on with respect to every entity, <wrap hide>216|00:22:53|880|00:22:57|140</wrap>and we're studying not only the science of triangles, <wrap hide>217|00:22:57|500|00:23:01|300</wrap>but the science of rotating triangles, <wrap hide>218|00:23:01|580|00:23:07|540</wrap>where the different aspects of the triangle seem to come into prominence at different times. <wrap hide>219|00:23:08|260|00:23:15|500</wrap>The whole universal process and progress occurs according to the law of cycles, <wrap hide>220|00:23:15|720|00:23:18|900</wrap>and these cycles are accurately timed. <wrap hide>221|00:23:20|300|00:23:22|360</wrap>Emphasis is always changing, <wrap hide>222|00:23:22|360|00:23:27|320</wrap>and we have to know what the emphasis is at any particular moment <wrap hide>223|00:23:27|320|00:23:35|920</wrap>if we are going to be able to understand the energies we have to work with <wrap hide>224|00:23:35|920|00:23:40|580</wrap>and what can be best expressed to bring forward the divine plan. <wrap hide>225|00:23:41|400|00:23:43|360</wrap>And then, of course, the science of the centers, <wrap hide>226|00:23:43|940|00:23:47|820</wrap>esoteric interpretation working through the science of the centers. <wrap hide>227|00:23:49|620|00:23:54|980</wrap>Now, every planet is a center chakra, every star is, <wrap hide>228|00:23:55|220|00:23:58|660</wrap>every grouping of stars with seven major is, <wrap hide>229|00:23:58|900|00:24:06|200</wrap>and every greater being, such as the one about whom naught may be said, <wrap hide>230|00:24:06|720|00:24:09|220</wrap>which is simply a chakra in a still greater being, and so forth. <wrap hide>231|00:24:10|080|00:24:15|760</wrap>We have to understand how the human being or any entity grows <wrap hide>232|00:24:15|760|00:24:22|040</wrap>through the development of its chakra centers carrying certain energies <wrap hide>233|00:24:22|040|00:24:24|520</wrap>at any particular time in its development. <wrap hide>234|00:24:24|720|00:24:29|700</wrap>What is the chakric emphasis for any entity at a particular time? <wrap hide>235|00:24:30|740|00:24:36|060</wrap>Now, you know, our solar Logos, for instance, has had a huge astral emphasis <wrap hide>236|00:24:36|060|00:24:41|260</wrap>and is largely a great entity who is cosmically astrally polarized. <wrap hide>237|00:24:41|260|00:24:49|980</wrap>But now there is a movement of our solar Logos towards a mental polarization, <wrap hide>238|00:24:49|980|00:24:56|380</wrap>and perhaps whatever represents the throat center or the ajna center of our solar Logos <wrap hide>239|00:24:56|380|00:24:58|340</wrap>will be receiving new stimulation. <wrap hide>240|00:25:00|000|00:25:06|040</wrap>Let's just say Mercury, very definitely Saturn, I would say very definitely. <wrap hide>241|00:25:06|620|00:25:09|200</wrap>Venus always receives tremendous stimulation <wrap hide>242|00:25:09|200|00:25:16|760</wrap>and it has both a monadic and a love emphasis. <wrap hide>243|00:25:17|900|00:25:20|440</wrap>So, you know, look inside your own energy system, <wrap hide>244|00:25:21|200|00:25:27|940</wrap>and when we're interpreting your chart, what is the chakra or combination of chakras <wrap hide>245|00:25:27|940|00:25:32|900</wrap>which are receiving emphasis according to your stage of development? <wrap hide>246|00:25:32|900|00:25:39|280</wrap>You know, D.K. has gone over this as I have, I think, pointed out, <wrap hide>247|00:25:39|280|00:25:45|980</wrap>and it would be found in Cosmic Fire, approximately page 170. <wrap hide>248|00:25:47|340|00:25:50|840</wrap>Yes, and you know, here we are, we should be at least this: <wrap hide>249|00:25:51|320|00:25:59|200</wrap>man partially controlled by the ego, you know, partially controlled by the ego, <wrap hide>250|00:26:00|120|00:26:02|360</wrap>and we are advanced man at least, <wrap hide>251|00:26:02|360|00:26:06|360</wrap>and so some of the head centers are being activated in the heart and the throat, surely. <wrap hide>252|00:26:07|120|00:26:12|380</wrap>And many of us, I would say the majority should be <wrap quote>spiritual man to the third initiation,</wrap> <wrap hide>253|00:26:12|720|00:26:17|360</wrap>which takes us through the heart, throat and seven head centers. <wrap hide>254|00:26:18|460|00:26:23|640</wrap>So, you know, basically what you're looking at there is a combination of Jupiter the heart, Saturn the throat <wrap hide>255|00:26:23|640|00:26:25|780</wrap>and Vulcan the seven head centers. <wrap hide>256|00:26:25|780|00:26:33|440</wrap>So, this series of chakras can be triangulated in relation to three planets, <wrap hide>257|00:26:33|440|00:26:39|340</wrap>and then we move up towards the fifth initiation and still other chakric centers. <wrap hide>258|00:26:39|680|00:26:46|680</wrap>So, it's a huge study, this study of the chakras and their present condition, <wrap hide>259|00:26:47|640|00:26:56|340</wrap>their tendency forward, their attempt to become equilibrated with two other chakras, <wrap hide>260|00:26:57|060|00:27:04|200</wrap>the diseases <wrap quote>that</wrap> may be caused through over or under emphasis upon a particular chakra. <wrap hide>261|00:27:05|120|00:27:08|380</wrap>The ramifications are stupendous. <wrap hide>262|00:27:08|980|00:27:12|540</wrap>So, I suppose in the beginning it's enough for us to know what the chakras are, <wrap hide>263|00:27:12|540|00:27:21|580</wrap>what planets rule them, what rays come through them, what basic functions each of the chakras has. <wrap hide>264|00:27:22|400|00:27:30|880</wrap>I suppose that is a beginning, and then of course one day our knowledge will expand like that of Master D.K., <wrap hide>265|00:27:31|220|00:27:36|140</wrap>you know, whose knowledge is stupendous on these matters. <wrap hide>266|00:27:36|300|00:27:40|200</wrap>But, you know, he's given us enough to get started and we will continue. <wrap hide>267|00:27:40|200|00:27:45|280</wrap>Then the science of destiny, of which the progressed horoscope is the seed. <wrap hide>268|00:27:46|440|00:27:51|080</wrap>Where are we going? What is our direction? What are, from a soul perspective, <wrap hide>269|00:27:51|660|00:27:56|020</wrap>what type of accomplishment are we attempting to have in a particular incarnation? <wrap hide>270|00:27:56|540|00:28:01|260</wrap>What might be the next incarnation which is destined to appear? <wrap hide>271|00:28:01|700|00:28:06|320</wrap>Ultimately the science of destiny is a monadic factor altogether, <wrap hide>272|00:28:06|320|00:28:09|760</wrap>and perhaps that far ahead we cannot see. <wrap hide>273|00:28:10|640|00:28:15|080</wrap>We don't really need to, you know, one, the old saying, "Lead kindly light," you know, <wrap hide>274|00:28:15|220|00:28:19|900</wrap>One step is enough for me, as long as it's the right step. <wrap hide>275|00:28:20|960|00:28:26|440</wrap>So, consulting the rising sign and its rulers in relation to the science of destiny is very important, <wrap hide>276|00:28:26|440|00:28:34|360</wrap>and from a deeper perspective, we can consult the sign opposite the sun sign. <wrap hide>277|00:28:36|160|00:28:40|320</wrap>Which is—we can call it the monadic point from a certain perspective. <wrap hide>278|00:28:41|480|00:28:49|420</wrap>It's part of the triple sun theory which the modern esoteric astrologers are working on. <wrap hide>279|00:28:49|540|00:28:55|520</wrap>The triple sun being the normal physical sun in its position in your chart, your sun sign, <wrap hide>280|00:28:56|000|00:28:58|820</wrap>your ascendant, and the point opposite your sun sign. <wrap hide>281|00:28:58|820|00:29:03|400</wrap>These are the triple sun. The astrologer Steven Pugh is a very good one, <wrap hide>282|00:29:03|780|00:29:11|720</wrap>has emphasized this triple sun early on in the game, and it is very important for us to study. <wrap hide>283|00:29:13|100|00:29:18|080</wrap><wrap quote>This latter science will be based upon the four previous ones <wrap hide>284|00:29:18|080|00:29:24|880</wrap>and will constitute an interpretation of the future</wrap>—not, you know, in the particular incarnation, yes, <wrap hide>285|00:29:24|880|00:29:32|680</wrap>and also perhaps in future incarnations—<wrap quote>which will be founded on a correct understanding of the rays, <wrap hide>286|00:29:33|500|00:29:41|880</wrap>personal and egoic, of the influence of the</wrap> triangle: zodiacal, <wrap quote>planetary, racial, and human.</wrap> <wrap hide>287|00:29:43|100|00:29:47|720</wrap>Racial and human. Okay, there's a lot that is said there. <wrap hide>288|00:29:47|720|00:29:53|880</wrap>So, the science of destiny will depend upon—let us look here— <wrap hide>289|00:29:54|460|00:30:00|320</wrap>the science of the rays, esoteric interpretation, science of triangles, and the science of the centers. <wrap hide>290|00:30:02|740|00:30:07|260</wrap>Okay, we are always trying to predict our future within a particular incarnation, <wrap hide>291|00:30:07|940|00:30:12|900</wrap>but it's not just whether what will happen will be pleasant or unpleasant. <wrap hide>292|00:30:12|900|00:30:22|600</wrap>It's about whether it will be goal-fitting in terms of the intention of the soul <wrap hide>293|00:30:22|600|00:30:29|200</wrap>and will bring forward that part of the plan in which we are supposed to participate. <wrap hide>294|00:30:30|980|00:30:34|980</wrap>This science of destiny—well, according to your rays, so you will progress. <wrap hide>295|00:30:36|320|00:30:39|620</wrap>In a particular incarnation, the personal ray is very important, <wrap hide>296|00:30:39|620|00:30:46|860</wrap>but the soul ray will tell us something more about the trajectory of progress for lives to come. <wrap hide>297|00:30:47|560|00:30:52|940</wrap>A teacher becomes a better teacher; a leader or governor becomes a better governor. <wrap hide>298|00:30:53|080|00:30:58|160</wrap>All the future incarnations will reflect the quality of the soul ray. <wrap hide>299|00:31:00|060|00:31:06|460</wrap>And the influence of the triangles will be found planetarily and zodiacally in every horoscope. <wrap hide>300|00:31:07|360|00:31:15|140</wrap>There are chakric triangles, and there are also triangles between the races and the sub-races <wrap hide>301|00:31:15|140|00:31:22|300</wrap>and their great areas of expression—the countries through which they work. <wrap hide>302|00:31:22|400|00:31:27|240</wrap>We can begin to triangulate countries as well, with their particular rays <wrap hide>303|00:31:27|240|00:31:36|640</wrap>and what each one of these countries may represent in terms of the centers within the planetary Logos. <wrap hide>304|00:31:37|200|00:31:41|420</wrap>A number of different countries together and their rays may tend to constitute, let us say, <wrap hide>305|00:31:41|520|00:31:44|620</wrap>an Ajna center, or some a throat center, or some a solar plexus. <wrap hide>306|00:31:45|180|00:31:49|060</wrap>So we will want to study the human race at large <wrap hide>307|00:31:49|820|00:31:59|180</wrap>and to see which of the different groupings of units within it represent which particular centers. <wrap hide>308|00:31:59|400|00:32:03|880</wrap>That is also a very, very, very, very big subject. <wrap hide>309|00:32:04|500|00:32:11|580</wrap>Humanity as a whole may in one sense represent the throat center of the planetary Logos, <wrap hide>310|00:32:12|460|00:32:17|140</wrap>but within that throat center, there are all kinds of groupings <wrap hide>311|00:32:17|140|00:32:22|160</wrap>which represent seven chakras within humanity itself. <wrap hide>312|00:32:22|580|00:32:30|140</wrap>And the different races and sub-races and national groups tend to go to the constitution of those chakras. <wrap hide>313|00:32:30|940|00:32:38|820</wrap>Let us say that if we are looking at a collection of the aboriginal groups which have a definite function, <wrap hide>314|00:32:40|400|00:32:48|020</wrap>they would seem to be very related to the base of the spine center and some of its earlier functions. <wrap hide>315|00:32:48|720|00:32:56|260</wrap>When we look at the great intelligentsia found, let us say, in the great universities of the world and think tanks, <wrap hide>316|00:32:56|380|00:33:04|500</wrap>obviously they represent different types of chakras within the race of humanity: the throat center, the Ajna center. <wrap hide>317|00:33:05|240|00:33:13|600</wrap>When we tend to look at those who are motivated by divine love and divine purpose, still other centers are involved. <wrap hide>318|00:33:15|400|00:33:23|500</wrap>Okay, so we have all of these different triangles that are involved in the science of destiny. <wrap hide>319|00:33:23|660|00:33:32|800</wrap>It is extremely intricate, but you know, with every individual, there must be one vector that comes forth. <wrap hide>320|00:33:32|800|00:33:41|220</wrap>There is the sum of all the different tendencies, and it will be that vector—that direction pursued with force— <wrap hide>321|00:33:42|260|00:33:48|940</wrap>which will tell us where we are going as individuals and as larger aggregates. <wrap hide>322|00:33:49|800|00:33:56|660</wrap><wrap quote>These latter triangles are arrived at by a study of the individual human</wrap> centers. <wrap hide>323|00:33:56|660|00:34:09|040</wrap>Well, we are doing that, and from studying these individual human centers, let us say, we can extrapolate to the larger chakras. <wrap hide>324|00:34:10|580|00:34:18|420</wrap>There is so much that can be learned about zodiacal planetary triangles, even I suppose racial triangles, <wrap hide>325|00:34:18|460|00:34:25|200</wrap>by studying the chakras of the individual human being and the way they develop, when they develop, <wrap hide>326|00:34:25|200|00:34:28|700</wrap>the relationships achieved as they develop. <wrap hide>327|00:34:29|980|00:34:34|340</wrap>You know, there is always going to be a transference from the sacral to the throat center and all these entities. <wrap hide>328|00:34:35|100|00:34:40|700</wrap>There will be from the solar plexus to the heart. There will be eventually from the base of the spine to the crown. <wrap hide>329|00:34:40|880|00:34:52|640</wrap>There will be transfers, and this kind of thing will happen in solar systems, and it will happen within planets as well. <wrap hide>330|00:34:52|640|00:34:57|560</wrap>And it will happen within those great beings we call zodiacal lords. <wrap hide>331|00:34:57|860|00:35:06|640</wrap>These transfers will go on. Although, you know, when you look at a zodiacal lord and the different kinds of stars <wrap hide>332|00:35:06|640|00:35:15|400</wrap>that are related to such a great being, it is a bit hard to sort out which are the particular chakras within that constellation. <wrap hide>333|00:35:15|400|00:35:25|620</wrap>But within sevenfold constellations, which have seven major stars in them, it is probably possible to make an educated guess <wrap hide>334|00:35:25|620|00:35:31|540</wrap>about which will be the chakric centers within any such greater being. <wrap hide>335|00:35:31|700|00:35:38|520</wrap>For instance, in the cosmic Logos in which our solar system and solar Logos participate, <wrap hide>336|00:35:38|520|00:35:42|700</wrap>we play the function of a heart center. <wrap hide>337|00:35:43|540|00:35:50|800</wrap>And other solar Logoi with whom our solar Logos is associated will play the functions of different centers. <wrap hide>338|00:35:51|040|00:36:02|540</wrap>Now, you know, one day, and maybe it is happening even now, there is a transfer from that which represents the solar plexus center <wrap hide>339|00:36:02|540|00:36:07|380</wrap>in our solar system to that which represents the heart center. <wrap hide>340|00:36:07|380|00:36:12|300</wrap>Okay, now what about in a cosmic Logos? The sun is representing the heart center. <wrap hide>341|00:36:12|500|00:36:23|700</wrap>What is that particular solar Logos in our sevenfold cosmic Logoic system that represents the solar plexus? <wrap hide>342|00:36:24|060|00:36:32|000</wrap>Because obviously a transference of energy, analogically considered, will be moving from the solar plexus to the heart <wrap hide>343|00:36:32|000|00:36:39|920</wrap>within this greater being, and we will be receiving that energy in our solar system, and that will affect us. <wrap hide>344|00:36:40|400|00:36:49|840</wrap>So the implications are wide-ranging, and they are useful to the point it helps us get our own house in order <wrap hide>345|00:36:49|840|00:36:52|980</wrap>and take care of our own chakric system. <wrap hide>346|00:36:54|560|00:37:03|620</wrap>Now, when all this has been ascertained—I love that word because it does tend to mean "made certain." <wrap hide>347|00:37:04|640|00:37:07|400</wrap>In other words, it is not just a guess; you really know what you are talking about. <wrap hide>348|00:37:07|920|00:37:09|980</wrap>So it will be a while yet before this is ascertained. <wrap hide>349|00:37:11|160|00:37:19|160</wrap><wrap quote>When all this has been ascertained and worked out in the new style of horoscope,</wrap> which will later be developed— <wrap hide>350|00:37:19|160|00:37:26|580</wrap>and much later, we don't know—many are the attempts now to develop the new style of horoscope, <wrap hide>351|00:37:26|780|00:37:32|260</wrap>but the masters certainly have horoscopes of which we know very little and which are extremely revealing, we are told— <wrap hide>352|00:37:33|080|00:37:40|260</wrap><wrap quote>then the science of destiny will be applied and the future indications discovered.</wrap> <wrap hide>353|00:37:40|480|00:37:46|000</wrap>I mean, you know, it's very good to know where we're going, even in one particular life, <wrap hide>354|00:37:46|000|00:37:50|920</wrap>and the progressed horoscope is perhaps the seed of that type of discovery. <wrap hide>355|00:37:51|820|00:37:57|400</wrap>And the directed horoscope also helps, and transits properly interpreted also help. <wrap hide>356|00:37:58|160|00:37:59|860</wrap>Where are we going in this incarnation? <wrap hide>357|00:38:00|060|00:38:09|480</wrap>But just imagine if we could see the trend of the lives that we tend to be living at this time. <wrap hide>358|00:38:11|220|00:38:13|940</wrap>What are the last several? What are the next several? <wrap hide>359|00:38:14|160|00:38:23|540</wrap>What role does this particular incarnation play in the several lives that we will be leading, <wrap hide>360|00:38:23|540|00:38:31|540</wrap>and the plan for which has already been formulated in the consciousness of the directing solar angel <wrap hide>361|00:38:31|540|00:38:37|080</wrap>and in the consciousness of man as the ego when he can see clearly from the higher mental plane? <wrap hide>362|00:38:37|080|00:38:42|680</wrap>Wouldn't that be interesting to know? Future indications will be discovered, <wrap hide>363|00:38:44|160|00:38:53|900</wrap>only so that we can work with greater accuracy and advantage in the particular incarnation in which we are found. <wrap hide>364|00:38:54|720|00:38:59|900</wrap><wrap quote>Of this, the personal progressed horoscope is the embryonic seed.</wrap> I love that. <wrap hide>365|00:39:00|900|00:39:03|920</wrap>There are so many different ways to operate with progressions. <wrap hide>366|00:39:03|920|00:39:10|780</wrap>You know how astrologers are. Some of them have so much of the third and fifth ray that they find many, many techniques, <wrap hide>367|00:39:11|800|00:39:19|380</wrap>trying to prove that a particular technique is perhaps the best, but perhaps all of them are helpful in some degree. <wrap hide>368|00:39:19|600|00:39:27|100</wrap>There's great complexity in it all, but if we can just get the essentials, I think we're doing what we can do <wrap hide>369|00:39:27|240|00:39:29|260</wrap>as students of esotericism this time. <wrap hide>370|00:39:29|260|00:39:36|600</wrap>We'll leave this to the profound technical experts over the centuries to work out all of the different methods of progression, <wrap hide>371|00:39:36|760|00:39:43|120</wrap>but certainly the day-for-a-year method is very important, and there are even different ways of doing that. <wrap hide>372|00:39:45|960|00:39:53|500</wrap>Yes, I've talked to some astrologers who say that our normal methods of progression are a bit faulty <wrap hide>373|00:39:53|500|00:40:02|480</wrap>and sometimes they choose a different type of progression which is more of an average of the sun's progression <wrap hide>374|00:40:02|480|00:40:13|460</wrap>because the sun doesn't progress the same number of degrees and minutes of arc and seconds of arc every day. <wrap hide>375|00:40:13|720|00:40:15|460</wrap>There are differences in that. <wrap hide>376|00:40:15|460|00:40:24|500</wrap>Well, of course, since a day equals a year, we're talking about the sun moving at a differential rate, <wrap hide>377|00:40:24|800|00:40:30|800</wrap>although it's very close, but it's differential, every year, i.e., every day. <wrap hide>378|00:40:31|420|00:40:36|100</wrap>So that's one method of progression, but the directed horoscope is also very important <wrap hide>379|00:40:36|100|00:40:45|560</wrap>and there we have the addition of approximately one degree a year to every planet in the horoscope. <wrap hide>380|00:40:45|880|00:40:52|860</wrap>So the horoscope maintains its pattern, but everything just shifts one degree a year with the pattern maintained. <wrap hide>381|00:40:54|280|00:40:58|860</wrap>One degree is a rounded-off number, but some astrologers actually use the one degree method. <wrap hide>382|00:40:58|860|00:41:10|820</wrap>Others direct the entire horoscope by exactly the amount that the sun has moved during a particular year. <wrap hide>383|00:41:12|040|00:41:21|460</wrap>Others choose an average sun motion and move every factor in the horoscope by that particular average. <wrap hide>384|00:41:22|500|00:41:35|380</wrap>This directed horoscope does work. From the pragmatic point of view, a day of our Lord is a year of our time. <wrap hide>385|00:41:36|640|00:41:47|680</wrap>When you add the approximate amount that the sun has traveled every day, i.e., every year, to every factor in the horoscope, <wrap hide>386|00:41:47|680|00:42:01|840</wrap>factors such as Pluto, Uranus, Saturn, Neptune, and so forth, that move quite slowly in the personal progressed horoscope, <wrap hide>387|00:42:01|840|00:42:08|140</wrap>you will find some amazing contacts being made between these outer planets, <wrap hide>388|00:42:09|360|00:42:14|420</wrap>moving forward by approximately a degree a year with other planets and other angles, <wrap hide>389|00:42:14|420|00:42:25|220</wrap>and by whatever means it does occur, the energies are brought in and we do experience them. <wrap hide>390|00:42:25|220|00:42:44|160</wrap>Okay, now, so you know, there's the science of destiny taking the seed, being developed from the seed of the personal progressed horoscope. <wrap hide>391|00:42:44|360|00:42:52|040</wrap>What a lot of work remains to be done here, and I might almost add the personal regressed horoscope, <wrap hide>392|00:42:52|040|00:43:01|640</wrap>in which what is called converse directions and regressions are used. <wrap hide>393|00:43:01|780|00:43:08|460</wrap>In other words, for the first year of life, we look not only for the first day after birth, <wrap hide>394|00:43:08|560|00:43:16|500</wrap>we look for the first day before birth, and we keep on going in these opposite directions, and different contacts are made. <wrap hide>395|00:43:16|500|00:43:24|920</wrap>Now, the tendency is to think of the contacts made with converse directions or regressed directions, <wrap hide>396|00:43:25|480|00:43:36|380</wrap>regressed progressions, or I call them regressions, okay, so instead of progressions, regressions, instead of directions, converse directions, <wrap hide>397|00:43:37|040|00:43:45|340</wrap>the contacts made may have some sort of karmic implication, because we are, as it were, moving backwards in time, <wrap hide>398|00:43:45|340|00:43:58|640</wrap>and maybe touching upon points of resonance with past events of a karmic nature which are thereby being brought into the present life. <wrap hide>399|00:43:59|800|00:44:10|220</wrap>Of course, you know, so much research has to be done, and the danger is being, can be considered being lost in a multiplicity of data. <wrap hide>400|00:44:10|220|00:44:19|000</wrap>When you just have, you know, hundreds and thousands of correlations, you can find something to justify anything. <wrap hide>401|00:44:20|580|00:44:31|100</wrap>But with the proper type of computer work and astute astrology, we will see whether these regressions on the day-for-a-year method, <wrap hide>402|00:44:31|100|00:44:44|060</wrap>or the converse directions of, in a way, subtracting one degree a year from all planets and seeing what angles are made, <wrap hide>403|00:44:44|120|00:44:50|880</wrap>we will see whether they stand up. Those who have used them say they do. <wrap hide>404|00:44:50|880|00:45:04|000</wrap>But what we need in astrology is the ability to handle a tremendous amount of data in a manner that is not excessively time-consuming. <wrap hide>405|00:45:04|300|00:45:13|880</wrap>This is our problem, but the developments in computer science in relation to astrology will, I think, allow us to do this. <wrap hide>406|00:45:13|880|00:45:32|260</wrap>Okay, <wrap quote>some indication of the relative values can be gained by consideration of the human triangles as given in A Treatise on Cosmic Fire which suggested the following.</wrap> <wrap hide>407|00:45:32|260|00:45:45|020</wrap>I think I've been there, okay, to that section, but let's see what he does, because sometimes he harkens back to Cosmic Fire in the later books. <wrap hide>408|00:45:45|480|00:45:53|940</wrap>Okay, I do believe this is the section around page 170. Well, we'll just read through it. I think we've discussed it a bit. <wrap hide>409|00:45:53|940|00:46:01|460</wrap><wrap quote>It would repay the student to contemplate the interesting succession of triangles that are to be found, <wrap hide>410|00:46:01|800|00:46:10|980</wrap>and the way in which they must be linked by the progression of the fire before that fire can perfectly vivify them.</wrap> <wrap hide>411|00:46:11|000|00:46:17|740</wrap>So first comes the linking of the different triangles, and then the transmission from point to point, <wrap hide>412|00:46:17|740|00:46:29|660</wrap>and then with that transmission a composite vivification until there is perfect vivification, not only of each chakra but of the entire triangle. <wrap hide>413|00:46:30|440|00:46:44|160</wrap>And then pass on to other transmutations, and there's the word, because as the fires rise and as the triangles are vivified, transmutation is in progress. <wrap hide>414|00:46:44|160|00:46:57|300</wrap>And the matter of our system, our little microcosmic system, is being gradually upgraded, refined, made more receptive. <wrap hide>415|00:46:57|620|00:47:09|920</wrap>So with the rising through the lower triangles to the higher triangles, there is a gradual transmutation of all the matter in the personal system, <wrap hide>416|00:47:09|920|00:47:21|400</wrap>and there will be other and higher transmutations going on within the causal body until it is properly developed and can be dispensed with. <wrap hide>417|00:47:22|760|00:47:34|220</wrap><wrap quote>We might enumerate some of these triangles, bearing always in mind that according to the ray,</wrap> and by that he means—by that he means the monadic ray. <wrap hide>418|00:47:34|220|00:47:46|400</wrap>That's very important. You say, "Well, monadic ray doesn't have a whole lot of practical utility yet," but according to the monadic ray, <wrap quote>so will be the geometric rising of the fire. <wrap hide>1|00:00:07|220|00:00:10|180</wrap>And according to the ray, so will the points be touched in ordered sequence.</wrap> <wrap hide>420|00:47:54|680|00:48:05|940</wrap>Now, you know, here's one of D.K.'s methods of blinding, you know, the ray. Well, which? You know, we might think personality ray, we might think soul ray, <wrap hide>421|00:48:06|060|00:48:22|440</wrap>but elsewhere he makes it pretty clear that it's the monadic ray that has this really real connection with the etheric body, and according to which in a general way, the different parts of a triangle are vivified. <wrap hide>422|00:48:22|440|00:48:37|600</wrap>You know, we always, in a way, it's always knowledge first, love second, will third. But as I have said, although knowledge goes first for the second ray monad, <wrap hide>423|00:48:38|340|00:48:49|380</wrap>the point in a triangle representing the love will keep pace with it. Will is always the hardest to develop, but for the first ray monad, <wrap hide>424|00:48:49|380|00:49:07|380</wrap>it will come into expression sooner than for the other types of monads, and in fact it will be the love emphasis which will have to be developed by the first ray monad, <wrap hide>425|00:49:07|380|00:49:27|640</wrap>and which may be a little bit more retarded in its development than for the other ray types. Certainly the love point will be much slower in development for the first ray monad than for the second, and even for the third ray monad. <wrap hide>426|00:49:27|640|00:49:39|380</wrap>And so it goes that for each type of monad, one point in the triangle is most difficult to develop, and one point is easiest to develop. <wrap hide>427|00:49:39|600|00:49:48|360</wrap>For the third ray monad, obviously the knowledge point is the easiest to develop, as it is for all, but especially for the third ray monad, most rapidly. <wrap hide>428|00:49:48|360|00:50:02|140</wrap>For the second ray monad, the love emphasis, the love point in the triangle is the easiest to develop, even though it is second in order, generically considered. <wrap hide>429|00:50:03|000|00:50:13|300</wrap>And for the first ray monad, the will point is easiest to develop. What is most difficult for the third ray monad is to develop the will. <wrap hide>430|00:50:14|060|00:50:21|180</wrap>What is most difficult for the second ray monad is to develop knowledge. What is most difficult for the first ray monad is to develop love. <wrap hide>431|00:50:22|280|00:50:34|200</wrap>This is what I've concluded in reading from A Treatise on Cosmic Fire. So all of us, according to our monadic ray, are in process of dealing with the geometric rising of the fire. <wrap hide>432|00:50:34|200|00:50:50|020</wrap>Of course, it is mostly unconscious to us, but if we are able to isolate the particular triangle with which we are working in any particular incarnation, assuming that there is one particular which receives the most emphasis, <wrap hide>433|00:50:50|300|00:50:59|680</wrap>we may be able to look at the three members of that triangle and see which is in the greatest state of development and which needs attention. <wrap hide>434|00:51:00|620|00:51:03|860</wrap>So let's go on here a little bit. <wrap hide>435|00:51:05|060|00:51:14|480</wrap><wrap quote>Herein lies one of the secrets of initiation,</wrap> he says, because Sanat Kumara certainly knows what to vivify next and how to equilibrate the energies, <wrap hide>436|00:51:14|880|00:51:28|840</wrap>and also readiness for initiation may have to do something with the degree of equilibration of a particular triangle, which is to receive the emphasis. <wrap hide>437|00:51:28|840|00:51:40|340</wrap>It is solar fire, which is the equilibrating energy, and perhaps it must be applied to a triangle to bring about greater type of Libran balance, <wrap hide>438|00:51:41|940|00:51:47|380</wrap>Libra being not only a third ray sign, but I intuitively think at least a second ray sign as well. <wrap hide>439|00:51:48|080|00:51:54|700</wrap><wrap quote>And herein are found some of the dangers entailed in a too quick publication of information concerning the rays.</wrap> <wrap hide>440|00:51:54|700|00:52:14|240</wrap>Well, it is of such complexity that it can be presented in the uncorrelated form, and people will just look at it as an impenetrable mass of information that they can't fully understand. <wrap hide>441|00:52:14|240|00:52:27|760</wrap>But when the compilations begin to be made and the organization of the information in a more assimilable manner begins to occur, then we have the possibility, a greater possibility of misuse. <wrap hide>442|00:52:28|440|00:52:36|740</wrap>Well anyway, the Pranic triangle is here, it's got the shoulder center at the lower part of the shoulder blades, not the heart center. <wrap hide>443|00:52:36|740|00:52:44|880</wrap>We have the center near the diaphragm, which is higher than the solar plexus, and I believe it's above the diaphragm, the last I checked. <wrap hide>444|00:52:45|360|00:52:57|360</wrap>And then we have the spleen, which is below the diaphragm. So here we have sort of the first ray center, the shoulder center, center near the diaphragm, second center, second ray center, and the spleen, the third ray center. <wrap hide>445|00:52:57|360|00:53:17|880</wrap>We're assuming that we would have a correlation here with first, second, and third ray monads: the spleen receiving activation first, in general generically the center near the diaphragm second, and the shoulder center at last, but activation varying according to the monadic ray. <wrap hide>446|00:53:18|040|00:53:21|500</wrap>Anyway, it's a foundational, in a way, Lemurian triangle. <wrap hide>447|00:53:22|040|00:53:25|680</wrap>Yes, we did deal with this before, but you know it's worth a little review. <wrap hide>448|00:53:26|800|00:53:37|160</wrap>The one thing when dealing with Master D.K.'s material is review, review, review, and slowly assimilate until it all begins to correlate. <wrap hide>449|00:53:38|540|00:53:43|120</wrap>Assimilate to the point of correlation, and correlation will bring unification. <wrap hide>450|00:53:44|520|00:53:53|900</wrap><wrap quote>Man controlled from the astral plane</wrap>—which is not the people who are reading this book, although there is some astral control naturally; we haven't mastered that thing completely. <wrap hide>451|00:53:54|760|00:54:05|460</wrap>Base of the spine center, solar plexus, and heart. In this particular case, I suppose the third ray point would be the base of the spine. <wrap hide>452|00:54:07|660|00:54:11|520</wrap>We have to look at what would be the highest controlling center. <wrap hide>453|00:54:12|880|00:54:20|420</wrap>Okay, the battery is just about gone. So you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to come back to this. <wrap hide>454|00:54:21|560|00:54:26|080</wrap>I'm going to come back to this. Just excuse me for just a moment. <wrap hide>455|00:54:31|420|00:54:37|500</wrap>Yes, there is a problem, as I'm not really getting juice here. <wrap hide>456|00:54:38|480|00:54:46|120</wrap>Okay, we will come back to this, and I will do The Great Invocation at this point, because we are just about at the end of our rope. <wrap hide>457|00:54:47|220|00:54:50|960</wrap>And I don't want to have this close off. <wrap hide>458|00:54:50|960|00:54:54|840</wrap>So, The Great Invocation. <wrap hide>459|00:54:56|100|00:55:04|440</wrap>From the point of light within the mind of God, let light stream forth into the minds of men. Let light descend on earth. <wrap hide>460|00:55:05|620|00:55:17|680</wrap>From the point of love within the heart of God—oh well—let love stream forth into the hearts of men. May Christ return to earth. <wrap hide>461|00:55:19|220|00:55:27|920</wrap>From the center where the will of God is known, let purpose guide the little wills of men—the purpose which the masters know and serve. <wrap hide>462|00:55:28|920|00:55:37|920</wrap>And from the center which we call the race of men, let the plan of love and light work out, and may it seal the door where evil dwells. <wrap hide>463|00:55:38|780|00:55:42|880</wrap>Let light and love and power restore the plan on earth. <wrap hide>464|00:55:44|620|00:55:46|020</wrap>Om. <wrap hide>465|00:55:54|100|00:55:55|500</wrap>Om. <wrap hide>466|00:55:56|620|00:55:57|260</wrap>Om. <wrap hide>467|00:56:06|720|00:56:07|360</wrap>Om. <wrap hide>468|00:56:18|740|00:56:22|540</wrap>Okay, friends, actually, I discovered it was a very simple problem. <wrap hide>469|00:56:23|280|00:56:34|720</wrap>We actually have just a few more minutes here, so I'm just a tiny bit out of order, still to represent the fact that Mercury is really retrograde and has caused many people many problems. <wrap hide>470|00:56:36|300|00:56:40|980</wrap>In a way here, when you look at the heart, it is the greatest of the centers, so you could think it relates to the first ray. <wrap hide>471|00:56:42|520|00:56:55|240</wrap>But from another perspective, the base of the spine represents the first ray, the solar plexus having to do with the sixth ray is related to the third, and the heart may be the second ray center. <wrap hide>472|00:56:55|640|00:57:07|160</wrap>There are different ways to look at this, but in terms of the power of the center at a particular time, it may be only the third ray aspect of the base of the spine center which is emerging. <wrap hide>473|00:57:08|760|00:57:15|960</wrap>And the solar plexus may be connected in this case as the middle center and the heart with the first ray. <wrap hide>474|00:57:16|800|00:57:22|620</wrap>But the heart does seem to stay in that position for quite a while—<wrap quote>man controlled from the mental plane.</wrap> <wrap hide>475|00:57:23|500|00:57:33|600</wrap>The base of the spine center in this particular case will again be the first ray, the heart will be the second ray, and the throat obviously the third ray. <wrap hide>476|00:57:33|600|00:57:47|300</wrap>But in terms of their ordering, the base of the spine is in the third position, the heart in the second position, and the throat is the foremost emphasis during the phase of man controlled from the mental plane. <wrap hide>477|00:57:47|800|00:57:49|680</wrap>So there are two ways of looking at this. <wrap hide>478|00:57:49|680|00:58:01|880</wrap>When we look at it from the point of view of the rays, the base of the spine has the obvious first ray connection, ruled by Pluto and some other planets. <wrap hide>479|00:58:02|020|00:58:05|020</wrap>The heart is an obvious second ray connection, though the throat the third ray. <wrap hide>480|00:58:06|460|00:58:19|000</wrap>In this particular relationship, when the monad is the first ray, the base of the spine may receive more stimulation than for monads of other types. <wrap hide>481|00:58:19|000|00:58:32|240</wrap>So one way of ordering these triangles is according to the ray they express, and the other is according to their so-called height or level within the etheric body. <wrap hide>482|00:58:32|440|00:58:37|160</wrap>The throat, with its 16 petals, having a higher position than any of the others. <wrap hide>483|00:58:38|560|00:58:46|780</wrap>When it comes to man controlled by the ego or advanced man, we have the heart, the throat, and the head. <wrap hide>484|00:58:47|860|00:58:53|720</wrap>We cannot really say that the heart represents the third ray; it always represents the second. <wrap hide>485|00:58:54|740|00:59:01|120</wrap>The throat, in this case, represents the third ray, and the head, the will centers, the first ray. <wrap hide>486|00:59:01|120|00:59:15|160</wrap>But the heart is technically in a lower and sustaining position in this particular triangle, and it is a constant, but the throat is receiving greater emphasis. <wrap hide>487|00:59:15|760|00:59:22|240</wrap>There are some initiations, the first and the second really, in which both heart and throat receive emphasis. <wrap hide>488|00:59:22|240|00:59:33|060</wrap>The heart especially for the first initiation in a certain way, and yet the throat and sacral center have a peculiar relationship in that initiation. <wrap hide>489|00:59:33|500|00:59:45|720</wrap>And we could say that the throat center has a peculiar emphasis in the second initiation, and yet, because we're achieving spiritual intelligence and mental illumination of a kind, <wrap hide>490|00:59:45|720|00:59:53|440</wrap>but the heart does receive stimulation of the second degree because of the raising of the solar plexus energy to the heart. <wrap hide>491|00:59:53|860|00:59:59|180</wrap>So in both these initiations we have both the heart and throat involved. <wrap hide>492|01:00:00|500|01:00:15|160</wrap>But our interest here is the progression of the fires according to the monadic ray, and I think a very safe way of looking at it is in general the type of rays that go through the particular... <wrap hide>493|01:00:16|120|01:00:27|460</wrap>through the particular centers. Now, when it comes to the very first, or pranic triangle, that's not a totally safe way of looking at it because there's no way that the... <wrap hide>494|01:00:27|460|01:00:34|300</wrap>no, excuse me, the second triangle, that the base of the spine will be maximally stimulated at that time by the first ray. <wrap hide>495|01:00:34|400|01:00:42|180</wrap>It just will not happen because of the stage of development, and yet the base of the spine has a definite first ray connection. <wrap hide>496|01:00:42|180|01:00:46|120</wrap>And yet it sustains all in the field of matter. <wrap hide>497|01:00:47|080|01:00:55|540</wrap>Well, you know, I kind of wanted to finish this little bit. The seven head centers, heart, throat, and seven head centers, just the same. <wrap hide>498|01:00:55|720|01:01:01|020</wrap>Heart, second ray; throat, third ray; and seven head centers, first ray. <wrap hide>499|01:01:01|980|01:01:12|280</wrap>And now this is interesting though, you know, you ever wonder whether the heart can in a way, because it is the vitality, take up the third ray position. <wrap hide>500|01:01:12|380|01:01:21|300</wrap>Normally it does not, but it can be the foundation, the etheric vital foundation, and in that respect correlate with the etheric body and the third ray. <wrap hide>501|01:01:21|300|01:01:31|360</wrap>The seven head centers here would be a Vulcanian expression along the second ray line because Vulcan is related to the heart of the sun internally, <wrap hide>502|01:01:31|740|01:01:37|640</wrap>which is very, you know, unusual to think about, and the two many-petaled lotuses would be the first ray combination. <wrap hide>503|01:01:38|260|01:01:46|320</wrap>Anyway, we did go over this, and there are different ways of thinking about it, both generically and in terms of the level of the center, <wrap hide>504|01:01:47|000|01:02:01|280</wrap>and in terms of the ray passing through the chakra. So here we are, we're probably still, I don't know what page we're on, I suppose it's page 88. <wrap hide>505|01:02:01|860|01:02:17|420</wrap>Okay, we've made it to page 88, so this is the end of Esoteric Astrology Adventure number 40, from 86 to 88, and we will continue as time allows. <wrap hide>506|01:02:18|320|01:02:32|140</wrap>Right now I find myself in a rather cold little tepee, literally, and I'll do my best to continue these as I would like to get through this whole book, <wrap hide>507|01:02:32|320|01:02:42|740</wrap>which will be not only a study of esoteric astrology, but will try to bring in many psychological and cosmological factors, <wrap hide>508|01:02:42|740|01:02:56|920</wrap>sort of a synthesis of occultism as far as I can see. But of course, if I were to use different books, my tendency to synthesize occultism would have a different flavor. <wrap hide>509|01:02:57|640|01:03:07|420</wrap>Alright, we're not too bad, so friends, that will be it for the moment, end number 40, and we will see you before... excuse that The Great Invocation is a little bit out of order, <wrap hide>510|01:03:07|420|01:03:16|420</wrap>but I thought we were going to have a crash and there's no way to redeem the program that I've just made for you if there's a crash. <wrap hide>511|01:03:17|500|01:03:23|420</wrap>Okay, we'll see you soon, and many blessings to everybody, and we'll talk to you later.+<wrap hide>1|00:00:07|220|00:00:10|180</wrap>Okay, hello everybody. <wrap hide>2|00:00:10|840|00:00:17|740</wrap>It's been about a month since it's been possible to work on these Esoteric Astrology adventures. <wrap hide>3|00:00:17|740|00:00:36|980</wrap>We are now up to the 40th in this series, and we ended discussing the seven rays and the signs through which they manifest. <wrap hide>4|00:00:39|220|00:00:52|560</wrap>And one very important aspect of this is to realize that it is not only the ruling planets which conduct the rays. <wrap hide>5|00:00:52|740|00:01:00|620</wrap>For instance, Vulcan and Pluto are ray one planets, and indeed they do conduct the first ray. <wrap hide>6|00:01:00|620|00:01:10|460</wrap>But because we have a situation in which the first ray passes through Aries, Leo, and Capricorn, <wrap hide>7|00:01:11|220|00:01:22|460</wrap>therefore the rulers of Aries, Leo, and Capricorn are also related directly to transmitting the first ray. <wrap hide>8|00:01:22|460|00:01:30|840</wrap>For instance, the first ray will strangely not only come through Mars, which has a lot of the first ray perhaps on the solar level, <wrap hide>9|00:01:31|300|00:01:35|720</wrap>but will come through Mercury, which doesn't have any first ray at all, and yet it will be a transmitter. <wrap hide>10|00:01:36|620|00:01:45|000</wrap>That the first ray would come through Leo and the Sun seems reasonable because the highest form of fire comes from the Sun. <wrap hide>11|00:01:45|000|00:01:52|940</wrap>It is solar fire, and even electric fire in our solar system is a subset of that type of fire. <wrap hide>12|00:01:54|580|00:02:05|220</wrap>And through Capricorn the goat, yes indeed, because Saturn is a planet that conducts the first ray, but normally it's conducting only the third ray. <wrap hide>13|00:02:05|220|00:02:16|940</wrap>And so it goes with all of these rays passing through the various rulers of the signs. <wrap hide>14|00:02:17|440|00:02:29|380</wrap>What we have listed here in this tabulation are the Orthodox rulers, Exoteric, and the Esoteric rulers. <wrap hide>15|00:02:29|380|00:02:38|180</wrap>And we see that Love Wisdom not only passes through Jupiter and the Sun, which are two so-called planets that carry the second ray, <wrap hide>16|00:02:38|280|00:02:45|880</wrap>but also passes through Mercury and Venus and the Moon and Jupiter and Pluto. <wrap hide>17|00:02:46|120|00:02:55|980</wrap>So even a first ray planet like Pluto ends up being a conductor of the second ray. <wrap hide>18|00:02:55|980|00:03:07|520</wrap>So we have to <wrap quote>bear</wrap> this in mind. There are so many different methods, so many different conduits, via which the rays can reach our planet and humanity. <wrap hide>19|00:03:08|260|00:03:12|300</wrap>Active Intelligence, we would expect it to come through the Earth and Saturn, and indeed it does. <wrap hide>20|00:03:12|980|00:03:24|280</wrap>But it also passes through the Moon, which is strongly related to matter and the third ray, and its constant changeability suggests the third ray, <wrap hide>21|00:03:24|280|00:03:33|100</wrap>but through Neptune as well, with its three-pronged trident, through Uranus, which has a third ray association, but through Venus as well, <wrap hide>22|00:03:33|820|00:03:45|820</wrap>which can be considered in a way the monadic permanent atom in relation to our planetary Logos and within the solar Logoic system. <wrap hide>23|00:03:46|720|00:04:01|360</wrap>When we look at the three major planets of this present period, which are said to be Saturn, Jupiter, and Venus, then in their present functions, Venus does represent Manus. <wrap hide>24|00:04:02|180|00:04:08|120</wrap>And of course the third ray passes through Saturn, which makes perfect sense as it is a third ray planet. <wrap hide>25|00:04:08|120|00:04:25|000</wrap>But you see what I'm trying to say here is that the esoteric and orthodox rulers of a sign do conduct the rays which pass through that sign. <wrap hide>26|00:04:25|000|00:04:38|300</wrap>And we should really make another tabulation to show which rays pass through all the planets. Probably we could do that, you know, off the top of our head possibly. <wrap hide>27|00:04:39|240|00:04:50|140</wrap>The fourth ray is passing through Venus. The fourth ray affiliated with Taurus, Scorpio, and Sagittarius passes through Venus, which has much to do with the equilibrizing and harmonizing force, <wrap hide>28|00:04:50|140|00:05:05|600</wrap>which doesn't seem so strange, and through Vulcan, which may very well have a fourth ray monad or at least a fourth ray sub-monad as the ultimate monadic ray for all beings has to be the first, second, or third. <wrap hide>29|00:05:07|240|00:05:11|140</wrap>The fourth ray is passing through Mars. There's plenty of conflict there, not much harmony. <wrap hide>30|00:05:11|140|00:05:22|840</wrap>And the fourth ray, interestingly, is passing through Jupiter, which oftentimes looks like the number four as you draw it. I guess it'll look backwards here as I kind of draw that. <wrap hide>31|00:05:23|240|00:05:27|120</wrap>And the fourth ray passing through the Earth, which has the cross as its symbol. <wrap hide>32|00:05:27|120|00:05:42|500</wrap>But normally Jupiter and the Earth and Mars and normally Vulcan and Venus don't transmit the fourth ray at all, and yet they must because that is the way the ray will reach from the constellation through planets to us. <wrap hide>33|00:05:44|060|00:05:47|120</wrap>Let's see, additionally... <wrap hide>34|00:05:49|580|00:05:56|340</wrap>Just checking here as it's been a while since I've done this, and it does seem to be operating, which is good. <wrap hide>35|00:05:57|520|00:06:04|160</wrap>And the fifth ray passes through the Sun. Well, all the rays pass through the Sun. You know, fifth ray is associated with Leo, Sagittarius, and Aquarius. <wrap hide>36|00:06:04|160|00:06:12|400</wrap>And I think I've spoken that Aquarius is the coming sign which will transmit the majority of the fifth ray. <wrap hide>37|00:06:13|600|00:06:19|360</wrap>But Leo presently is the sign which maximally expresses the fifth ray. <wrap hide>38|00:06:19|700|00:06:30|080</wrap>So passing through the Sun, the Sun doesn't have very much fifth ray about it, although it is aspiring to the status of Sirius, which has much fifth ray about it. <wrap hide>39|00:06:30|080|00:06:36|760</wrap>Just as the Earth is aspiring to the status of Venus, which has much fifth ray about it. <wrap hide>40|00:06:37|000|00:06:43|820</wrap>So one day before long, both the Sun and the Earth will express the fifth ray more fully. <wrap hide>41|00:06:44|540|00:06:50|940</wrap>Fifth ray coming through Jupiter as the root of Sagittarius - not much fifth ray there, but still it's a point of transmission. <wrap hide>42|00:06:50|940|00:06:55|600</wrap>And through the Earth, as I explained one day, that fifth ray will be there right now. <wrap hide>43|00:06:55|900|00:07:05|660</wrap>The planetary Logos of the Earth is fighting a battle, we are told, on the cosmic astral plane, on the fourth sub-plane of the cosmic astral plane, <wrap hide>44|00:07:05|680|00:07:11|120</wrap>but is moving towards polarization on the fifth level, the fifth from below. <wrap hide>45|00:07:11|120|00:07:24|660</wrap>And that would give an intense type of focus and a higher luminosity and may well occur when the Earth takes its fifth subsidiary initiation, <wrap hide>46|00:07:25|440|00:07:31|960</wrap>as is shown or hinted in Cosmic Fire, page 384. <wrap hide>47|00:07:33|540|00:07:40|700</wrap>Aquarius signs, the ray of signs passing through Aquarius - of course, through Uranus, yes, there's much fifth ray in Uranus. <wrap hide>48|00:07:40|700|00:07:46|840</wrap>And through Jupiter, again, not really, but yet it does pass through. <wrap hide>49|00:07:47|380|00:07:50|360</wrap>Remember that all the planets have all the rays. <wrap hide>50|00:07:51|320|00:07:59|760</wrap>It's a bit like saying all the human chakras have all the rays, which can be expressed through them, <wrap hide>51|00:07:59|780|00:08:07|660</wrap>but there are some rays which are more focal within a particular planet than other rays. <wrap hide>52|00:08:07|660|00:08:18|000</wrap>We come to the sixth ray passing through Virgo, Sagittarius and Pisces, and strangely we have the sixth ray passing through Mercury. <wrap hide>53|00:08:18|500|00:08:25|000</wrap>There's not much of the sixth ray there - it's a very rational planet in a way, but it does express along the 2, 4, 6 line. <wrap hide>54|00:08:25|680|00:08:35|620</wrap>The sixth ray coming through the Moon - we can relate it to the idea that the Moon is one of the rulers of the Lunar Lords, <wrap hide>55|00:08:35|620|00:08:44|580</wrap>which is the sixth creative hierarchy, and the sixth is an important number of form, and the Moon is the mother of the form. <wrap hide>56|00:08:45|360|00:08:53|220</wrap>See, I'm giving justifications here for how the rays might be related to the planet through which they are passing, <wrap hide>57|00:08:53|420|00:09:03|520</wrap>and yet the fact that they do pass through the planet will operate whether or not the planet has real affinity for the ray. <wrap hide>58|00:09:03|520|00:09:14|780</wrap>It does have affinity for the sign - the ruler or the Logos of the particular planet will be related to the ruler or Logos of the constellation, <wrap hide>59|00:09:14|880|00:09:20|960</wrap>and that is a solid relationship, but the ray relationship may not be conventional or expected. <wrap hide>60|00:09:21|560|00:09:33|440</wrap>Sixth ray passing through Jupiter - yes, I've often speculated that one of the rays of Jupiter may be the uplifting, enthusiastic, uprising sixth ray. <wrap hide>61|00:09:34|080|00:09:36|860</wrap>On some level, Jupiter seems to suggest that. <wrap hide>62|00:09:37|820|00:09:45|740</wrap>And then there is the Earth and its sixth ray. Well, certainly the Earth is under the spell at the moment of the 666, <wrap hide>63|00:09:46|400|00:09:52|520</wrap>which is the physical body of the planetary Logos and the eighteen sub-planes. <wrap hide>64|00:09:53|220|00:10:02|960</wrap>Three sixes are eighteen, and that is precisely the lunar nature of our planetary Logos, his dense physical body. <wrap hide>65|00:10:03|720|00:10:07|220</wrap>Sixth ray passing through Pluto - well, Pluto has much to do with the solar plexus, <wrap hide>66|00:10:07|800|00:10:14|080</wrap>and we're told that there is the disappearance into Hades, <wrap hide>67|00:10:14|400|00:10:21|640</wrap>which is connected with the solar plexus of many of the problems associated with the human being. <wrap hide>68|00:10:22|040|00:10:30|740</wrap>So there is a kind of a cutting off of solar plexus reaction via Pluto. <wrap hide>69|00:10:30|740|00:10:36|240</wrap>I wondered whether it might not be the sixth ray, one of the higher rays of Pluto, <wrap hide>70|00:10:36|420|00:10:44|820</wrap>with the first ray being particularly the exoteric ruler. <wrap hide>71|00:10:45|800|00:10:49|740</wrap>Finally, we come to the seventh ray associated with Aries, Cancer and Capricorn. <wrap hide>72|00:10:52|140|00:10:58|260</wrap>Well, regimentation through Aries and the protection of the form via the lowest vessel in Cancer. <wrap hide>73|00:10:58|260|00:11:04|620</wrap>I think I already did discuss the ways in which the rays particularly relate to the signs of the zodiac. <wrap hide>74|00:11:04|840|00:11:08|780</wrap>I hope I did discuss that. Can't review all that right now. <wrap hide>75|00:11:08|960|00:11:11|600</wrap>And the majority of the seventh ray coming through Capricorn. <wrap hide>76|00:11:12|180|00:11:20|360</wrap>But the seventh ray comes through Mars - well, it's a planet which has much opposition to the seventh ray <wrap hide>77|00:11:20|360|00:11:25|980</wrap>because it's so impulsive, and yet there is a spirit of regimentation going along with Mars, <wrap hide>78|00:11:25|980|00:11:33|220</wrap>which suggests the seventh ray. As for Mercury, it's not a very grounding planet as the seventh ray is, <wrap hide>79|00:11:33|320|00:11:41|740</wrap>and yet it has a similarity with the seventh ray in as much as it links high spaces with low spaces, <wrap hide>80|00:11:41|760|00:11:45|440</wrap>and the ultimate statement of the seventh ray is the highest and the lowest meet. <wrap hide>81|00:11:47|300|00:11:54|040</wrap>The moon is very much connected with the seventh ray and with violet, the moon's color in a sense, <wrap hide>82|00:11:54|040|00:12:00|640</wrap>and with measuring time via the phases of the moon and with providing the vessel. <wrap hide>83|00:12:01|300|00:12:02|980</wrap>Can the seventh ray be connected with Neptune? <wrap hide>84|00:12:03|360|00:12:10|120</wrap>Well, normally one would think it cannot because it has so much of the 2-4-6 line, <wrap hide>85|00:12:10|300|00:12:19|760</wrap>And yet there is a point in, is it on page 300, I'm not sure, of Esoteric Astrology <wrap hide>86|00:12:19|760|00:12:25|020</wrap>where the Neptune is associated with the base of the spine center, <wrap hide>87|00:12:26|100|00:12:28|740</wrap>and there is a point at which Vulcan and Neptune come into opposition, <wrap hide>88|00:12:28|980|00:12:32|940</wrap>and Vulcan represents the head center, and I suspect Neptune the base of the spine. <wrap hide>89|00:12:33|680|00:12:44|280</wrap>I believe that may be on page 300 of Esoteric Astrology. We can check that as we go along. <wrap hide>90|00:12:44|400|00:12:46|420</wrap>We certainly will reach it as we go through this book. <wrap hide>91|00:12:47|000|00:12:50|500</wrap>Capricorn and Saturn, yes, well Saturn rules the entire cosmic physical plane. <wrap hide>92|00:12:51|440|00:12:58|880</wrap>It rules also the physical etheric sub-plane of the cosmic physical plane, <wrap hide>93|00:12:59|000|00:13:05|400</wrap>so yes, naturally there is a connection with the seventh ray and Saturn. <wrap hide>94|00:13:07|000|00:13:09|240</wrap>I'm just going to take a quick look here if possible. <wrap hide>95|00:13:09|320|00:13:12|180</wrap>This happens during classes all the time, so please forgive me. <wrap hide>96|00:13:12|180|00:13:16|660</wrap>I go searching for something. Well, there it is. I thought it was. <wrap hide>97|00:13:17|600|00:13:22|900</wrap>I thought it was. It's on, no, it's not page 300. It might be page 330. <wrap hide>98|00:13:25|980|00:13:30|380</wrap>Well, there it is. There it is. It is on page 301. <wrap hide>99|00:13:31|700|00:13:37|940</wrap>We see that the Sun, possibly veiling Vulcan, represents the head. <wrap hide>100|00:13:37|940|00:13:46|240</wrap>The heart is Uranus, and Neptune is the base of the spine, interestingly enough. <wrap hide>101|00:13:47|380|00:13:51|920</wrap>So Neptune does relate to the faculty of desire, <wrap hide>102|00:13:53|100|00:13:57|000</wrap>and desire is that which is necessary if there's going to be any manifestation whatsoever. <wrap hide>103|00:13:57|000|00:14:02|620</wrap>Also Neptune is the hierarchical ruler of Cancer, <wrap hide>104|00:14:02|920|00:14:08|260</wrap>which is the lowest of the hierarchies on the cosmic astral plane, <wrap hide>105|00:14:08|440|00:14:14|340</wrap>and which is responsible for precipitation, again, onto the cosmic physical plane. <wrap hide>106|00:14:14|420|00:14:19|960</wrap>Anyway, I think I did discuss these a bit. It's been about a month, <wrap hide>107|00:14:21|480|00:14:25|060</wrap>but if I repeated myself just a bit, I'm sorry. <wrap hide>108|00:14:25|060|00:14:27|420</wrap>Perhaps some new information has come through. <wrap hide>109|00:14:28|640|00:14:36|680</wrap>Now we are essentially rolling into page 86, and the Tibetan is saying, <wrap hide>110|00:14:38|220|00:14:41|900</wrap>let's make this just a little, little bigger. <wrap hide>111|00:14:43|260|00:14:45|480</wrap>Okay, okay, just a little bigger. <wrap hide>112|00:14:46|960|00:14:52|620</wrap>Whoops. Oh, page 86. Let's see if I can find that. <wrap hide>113|00:14:52|620|00:14:57|500</wrap>Sorry for the slight, slight delay here. <wrap hide>114|00:14:59|900|00:15:04|540</wrap>Okay, okay. Aha, we were farther than we should be. <wrap hide>115|00:15:05|760|00:15:07|080</wrap>All right. <wrap hide>116|00:15:12|280|00:15:13|440</wrap>Just about there. <wrap hide>117|00:15:16|320|00:15:21|620</wrap>It's not always easy to go back to where you should be, <wrap hide>118|00:15:24|360|00:15:26|600</wrap>because sometimes... yeah, there we are. Okay. <wrap hide>119|00:15:29|140|00:15:36|280</wrap>So, D.K. tells us <wrap quote>it will be obvious to you how much correlating work <wrap hide>120|00:15:36|280|00:15:40|800</wrap>and how much readjustment of ideas will be needed <wrap hide>121|00:15:40|800|00:15:44|040</wrap>as the new astrology is worked out into practical usefulness <wrap hide>122|00:15:44|040|00:15:49|420</wrap>and eventually substituted for that which is now holding sway.</wrap> <wrap hide>123|00:15:49|520|00:15:51|760</wrap>When I first read this, I was really excited, <wrap hide>124|00:15:52|020|00:15:55|640</wrap>because, you know, just a piece of personal astrology here, <wrap hide>125|00:15:55|760|00:15:59|760</wrap>I have Mercury on the Midheaven, Mercury, fourth ray Mercury, <wrap hide>126|00:15:59|900|00:16:05|600</wrap>involved in correlation, the fifth, the Midheaven being the place <wrap hide>127|00:16:05|600|00:16:08|440</wrap>of the individual's dharma in a particular incarnation. <wrap hide>128|00:16:08|440|00:16:11|960</wrap>So I thought perhaps I might be involved in this correlating work, <wrap hide>129|00:16:12|220|00:16:17|580</wrap>as correlation is one of the things I like to do the most, <wrap hide>130|00:16:18|300|00:16:22|340</wrap>and eventually the synthesis of all the relations begins to appear <wrap hide>131|00:16:22|340|00:16:29|940</wrap>and the field of pure reason is revealed, or pure reason reveals the field, <wrap hide>132|00:16:30|760|00:16:34|720</wrap>and all the relationships in the great science of relations <wrap hide>133|00:16:34|720|00:16:38|520</wrap>stand forth with increasing clarity. <wrap hide>134|00:16:39|060|00:16:42|880</wrap>As for readjustment of ideas, well, I don't know whether it's better <wrap hide>135|00:16:42|880|00:16:49|220</wrap>to study normal astrology before studying esoteric astrology, <wrap hide>136|00:16:49|220|00:16:53|180</wrap>or whether it's not. The mind can certainly become cluttered <wrap hide>137|00:16:53|180|00:16:59|000</wrap>by lesser ideas of quite a concrete nature, <wrap hide>138|00:16:59|000|00:17:05|980</wrap>and that cluttering can inhibit for a long time <wrap hide>139|00:17:05|980|00:17:11|080</wrap>the assimilation of the new ideas. <wrap hide>140|00:17:11|200|00:17:15|020</wrap>At the same time, there are certain things in classical astrology <wrap hide>141|00:17:15|020|00:17:19|500</wrap>which really help the student know what Master D.K. is talking about. <wrap hide>142|00:17:19|660|00:17:24|640</wrap>Obviously, he knows classical astrology very well, <wrap hide>143|00:17:24|640|00:17:29|320</wrap>but has chosen not to emphasize it because the newer ideas <wrap hide>144|00:17:29|320|00:17:30|820</wrap>are the ones that have to come through. <wrap hide>145|00:17:31|480|00:17:36|380</wrap>I think it took me many years before I could begin to adjust <wrap hide>146|00:17:37|360|00:17:40|540</wrap>the concepts that I had absorbed in classical astrology <wrap hide>147|00:17:40|540|00:17:43|880</wrap>with the new incoming ones from esoteric astrology, <wrap hide>148|00:17:44|340|00:17:49|120</wrap>and I've seen quite a number of practitioners of esoteric astrology <wrap hide>149|00:17:49|120|00:17:53|240</wrap>understanding the theory pretty well, <wrap hide>150|00:17:53|460|00:18:01|080</wrap>but not understanding how it might be applied to the lives of people <wrap hide>151|00:18:01|080|00:18:04|520</wrap>they try to help, applied in a practical way, <wrap hide>152|00:18:04|540|00:18:06|340</wrap>and that may take some time. <wrap hide>153|00:18:06|460|00:18:11|340</wrap>And also remember, when you're trying to help people with esoteric astrology, <wrap hide>154|00:18:12|840|00:18:17|460</wrap>it's not the normal personality-centered individual <wrap hide>155|00:18:17|460|00:18:21|860</wrap>that you are seeking to aid with this more advanced type of astrology. <wrap hide>156|00:18:22|020|00:18:24|480</wrap>Otherwise, the interpretations will fail <wrap hide>157|00:18:24|480|00:18:27|920</wrap>because they have not reached a point <wrap hide>158|00:18:28|460|00:18:32|660</wrap>where that type of astrology is really relevant to them. <wrap hide>159|00:18:33|420|00:18:37|160</wrap>Anyway, we've had approximately 80 years here, <wrap hide>160|00:18:37|700|00:18:42|860</wrap>and these 80 years should have seen quite a growth <wrap hide>161|00:18:42|860|00:18:45|740</wrap>in the applicability of esoteric astrology. <wrap hide>162|00:18:46|340|00:18:47|680</wrap>D.K. goes on to say, <wrap hide>163|00:18:47|880|00:18:51|620</wrap>"The <wrap quote>new astrology really embodies five sciences." <wrap hide>164|00:18:52|680|00:18:54|600</wrap>The science of the rays.</wrap> <wrap hide>165|00:18:55|200|00:18:59|360</wrap>Well, I think you can tell by the way we've been approaching this, <wrap hide>166|00:18:59|580|00:19:03|200</wrap>and also, more importantly, how D.K. writes, <wrap hide>167|00:19:03|740|00:19:08|360</wrap>that the rays are inseparable from the study of esoteric astrology. <wrap hide>168|00:19:08|520|00:19:11|380</wrap>I always say that the rays are here in the right hand, <wrap hide>169|00:19:11|440|00:19:13|760</wrap>astrology is here in the left hand, <wrap hide>170|00:19:13|760|00:19:17|040</wrap>and these two absolutely have to be combined <wrap hide>171|00:19:17|040|00:19:23|620</wrap>for a deeper understanding of the true soul or psyche of man <wrap hide>172|00:19:23|620|00:19:29|280</wrap>as it expresses within the personality. <wrap hide>173|00:19:30|160|00:19:33|340</wrap>So, every astrological factor that we can think of <wrap hide>174|00:19:33|340|00:19:37|620</wrap>certainly has its ray correlation, <wrap hide>175|00:19:38|080|00:19:41|660</wrap>and these we are attempting to master. <wrap hide>176|00:19:41|660|00:19:46|400</wrap>The planets have the rays which are transmitted through them, <wrap hide>177|00:19:47|440|00:19:50|940</wrap>and the science of the zodiac have that as well, <wrap hide>178|00:19:51|260|00:19:56|060</wrap>and the solar Logoi have rays, <wrap hide>179|00:19:56|320|00:20:00|660</wrap>and I wouldn't be surprised—I do think that the great constellations, <wrap hide>180|00:20:01|480|00:20:04|360</wrap>which are centers in the one about whom naught may be said, <wrap hide>181|00:20:04|880|00:20:05|820</wrap>have their own rays. <wrap hide>182|00:20:05|920|00:20:08|120</wrap>Of course, all of them, but some of them emphasized. <wrap hide>183|00:20:08|120|00:20:12|260</wrap>See, every chakra, all rays, but some emphasized. <wrap hide>184|00:20:12|940|00:20:16|320</wrap>This is how I choose to look at it, and I think it's fairly accurate. <wrap hide>185|00:20:16|760|00:20:20|920</wrap>And ultimately, this great universal septenate, <wrap hide>186|00:20:21|040|00:20:29|420</wrap>you might say, coming from a great universal septenate. <wrap hide>187|00:20:33|120|00:20:37|500</wrap>And we probably don't call that universal septenate the seven rays. <wrap hide>188|00:20:37|500|00:20:40|600</wrap>When they come from the Great Bear, we call them the seven rays, <wrap hide>189|00:20:40|820|00:20:47|520</wrap>but they are the ultimate prototypes of what we call the seven rays. <wrap hide>190|00:20:48|940|00:20:52|860</wrap>So, esoteric astrology has certainly the science of the rays. <wrap hide>191|00:20:53|540|00:20:57|320</wrap>It also has the science of esoteric interpretation, <wrap hide>192|00:20:58|200|00:21:03|840</wrap>which means that the—okay, I may be experiencing degrading audio. <wrap hide>193|00:21:04|820|00:21:07|480</wrap>Hopefully, that is not the case. <wrap hide>194|00:21:08|740|00:21:10|920</wrap>So far everything looks okay. <wrap hide>195|00:21:12|200|00:21:14|760</wrap>You let me know. Sometimes it's very disappointing, you know. <wrap hide>196|00:21:14|800|00:21:20|820</wrap>I make these long programs, even a whole class, <wrap hide>197|00:21:21|560|00:21:24|000</wrap>and it turns out that the webinar did not take, <wrap hide>198|00:21:24|140|00:21:25|900</wrap>or there's some technical problem. <wrap hide>199|00:21:26|180|00:21:30|180</wrap>Well, it's loss, but all loss is minimal <wrap hide>200|00:21:30|180|00:21:33|580</wrap>when compared to eternal possibility. <wrap hide>201|00:21:35|100|00:21:39|140</wrap>So, the science of esoteric interpretation is applied specifically <wrap hide>202|00:21:39|140|00:21:44|280</wrap>to an understanding of the ways of the soul, <wrap hide>203|00:21:45|060|00:21:46|980</wrap>or the ego on the higher mental plane, <wrap hide>204|00:21:48|040|00:21:54|620</wrap>the ways of that ego within and through the three aspects of the personality, <wrap hide>205|00:21:55|380|00:21:58|200</wrap>and through the personality as a unity itself. <wrap hide>206|00:21:58|200|00:22:05|320</wrap>So, we're not interested in specific outcomes in the world of form, <wrap hide>207|00:22:05|440|00:22:09|620</wrap>unless they affect the growth of consciousness. <wrap hide>208|00:22:10|060|00:22:16|680</wrap>The whole study of esoteric astrology is about the growth of consciousness. <wrap hide>209|00:22:18|580|00:22:24|520</wrap>Now, this esoteric interpretation will be carried out through the science of triangles, <wrap hide>210|00:22:24|520|00:22:30|360</wrap>the vast science, which we will discuss as we make our way towards page 404, <wrap hide>211|00:22:30|640|00:22:33|420</wrap>or approximately—I hope we can last that long. <wrap hide>212|00:22:34|340|00:22:40|120</wrap>And this—everything is triangulated, and the three aspects of divinity <wrap hide>213|00:22:40|120|00:22:45|320</wrap>are everywhere found in relation to every type of entity. <wrap hide>214|00:22:45|500|00:22:47|660</wrap>An entity is a unity, but it's also a three. <wrap hide>215|00:22:48|580|00:22:53|880</wrap>There's kind of a trinitization going on with respect to every entity, <wrap hide>216|00:22:53|880|00:22:57|140</wrap>and we're studying not only the science of triangles, <wrap hide>217|00:22:57|500|00:23:01|300</wrap>but the science of rotating triangles, <wrap hide>218|00:23:01|580|00:23:07|540</wrap>where the different aspects of the triangle seem to come into prominence at different times. <wrap hide>219|00:23:08|260|00:23:15|500</wrap>The whole universal process and progress occurs according to the law of cycles, <wrap hide>220|00:23:15|720|00:23:18|900</wrap>and these cycles are accurately timed. <wrap hide>221|00:23:20|300|00:23:22|360</wrap>Emphasis is always changing, <wrap hide>222|00:23:22|360|00:23:27|320</wrap>and we have to know what the emphasis is at any particular moment <wrap hide>223|00:23:27|320|00:23:35|920</wrap>if we are going to be able to understand the energies we have to work with <wrap hide>224|00:23:35|920|00:23:40|580</wrap>and what can be best expressed to bring forward the divine plan. <wrap hide>225|00:23:41|400|00:23:43|360</wrap>And then, of course, the science of the centers, <wrap hide>226|00:23:43|940|00:23:47|820</wrap>esoteric interpretation working through the science of the centers. <wrap hide>227|00:23:49|620|00:23:54|980</wrap>Now, every planet is a center chakra, every star is, <wrap hide>228|00:23:55|220|00:23:58|660</wrap>every grouping of stars with seven major is, <wrap hide>229|00:23:58|900|00:24:06|200</wrap>and every greater being, such as the one about whom naught may be said, <wrap hide>230|00:24:06|720|00:24:09|220</wrap>which is simply a chakra in a still greater being, and so forth. <wrap hide>231|00:24:10|080|00:24:15|760</wrap>We have to understand how the human being or any entity grows <wrap hide>232|00:24:15|760|00:24:22|040</wrap>through the development of its chakra centers carrying certain energies <wrap hide>233|00:24:22|040|00:24:24|520</wrap>at any particular time in its development. <wrap hide>234|00:24:24|720|00:24:29|700</wrap>What is the chakric emphasis for any entity at a particular time? <wrap hide>235|00:24:30|740|00:24:36|060</wrap>Now, you know, our solar Logos, for instance, has had a huge astral emphasis <wrap hide>236|00:24:36|060|00:24:41|260</wrap>and is largely a great entity who is cosmically astrally polarized. <wrap hide>237|00:24:41|260|00:24:49|980</wrap>But now there is a movement of our solar Logos towards a mental polarization, <wrap hide>238|00:24:49|980|00:24:56|380</wrap>and perhaps whatever represents the throat center or the ajna center of our solar Logos <wrap hide>239|00:24:56|380|00:24:58|340</wrap>will be receiving new stimulation. <wrap hide>240|00:25:00|000|00:25:06|040</wrap>Let's just say Mercury, very definitely Saturn, I would say very definitely. <wrap hide>241|00:25:06|620|00:25:09|200</wrap>Venus always receives tremendous stimulation <wrap hide>242|00:25:09|200|00:25:16|760</wrap>and it has both a monadic and a love emphasis. <wrap hide>243|00:25:17|900|00:25:20|440</wrap>So, you know, look inside your own energy system, <wrap hide>244|00:25:21|200|00:25:27|940</wrap>and when we're interpreting your chart, what is the chakra or combination of chakras <wrap hide>245|00:25:27|940|00:25:32|900</wrap>which are receiving emphasis according to your stage of development? <wrap hide>246|00:25:32|900|00:25:39|280</wrap>You know, D.K. has gone over this as I have, I think, pointed out, <wrap hide>247|00:25:39|280|00:25:45|980</wrap>and it would be found in Cosmic Fire, approximately page 170. <wrap hide>248|00:25:47|340|00:25:50|840</wrap>Yes, and you know, here we are, we should be at least this: <wrap hide>249|00:25:51|320|00:25:59|200</wrap>man partially controlled by the ego, you know, partially controlled by the ego, <wrap hide>250|00:26:00|120|00:26:02|360</wrap>and we are advanced man at least, <wrap hide>251|00:26:02|360|00:26:06|360</wrap>and so some of the head centers are being activated in the heart and the throat, surely. <wrap hide>252|00:26:07|120|00:26:12|380</wrap>And many of us, I would say the majority should be <wrap quote>spiritual man to the third initiation,</wrap> <wrap hide>253|00:26:12|720|00:26:17|360</wrap>which takes us through the heart, throat and seven head centers. <wrap hide>254|00:26:18|460|00:26:23|640</wrap>So, you know, basically what you're looking at there is a combination of Jupiter the heart, Saturn the throat <wrap hide>255|00:26:23|640|00:26:25|780</wrap>and Vulcan the seven head centers. <wrap hide>256|00:26:25|780|00:26:33|440</wrap>So, this series of chakras can be triangulated in relation to three planets, <wrap hide>257|00:26:33|440|00:26:39|340</wrap>and then we move up towards the fifth initiation and still other chakric centers. <wrap hide>258|00:26:39|680|00:26:46|680</wrap>So, it's a huge study, this study of the chakras and their present condition, <wrap hide>259|00:26:47|640|00:26:56|340</wrap>their tendency forward, their attempt to become equilibrated with two other chakras, <wrap hide>260|00:26:57|060|00:27:04|200</wrap>the diseases <wrap quote>that</wrap> may be caused through over or under emphasis upon a particular chakra. <wrap hide>261|00:27:05|120|00:27:08|380</wrap>The ramifications are stupendous. <wrap hide>262|00:27:08|980|00:27:12|540</wrap>So, I suppose in the beginning it's enough for us to know what the chakras are, <wrap hide>263|00:27:12|540|00:27:21|580</wrap>what planets rule them, what rays come through them, what basic functions each of the chakras has. <wrap hide>264|00:27:22|400|00:27:30|880</wrap>I suppose that is a beginning, and then of course one day our knowledge will expand like that of Master D.K., <wrap hide>265|00:27:31|220|00:27:36|140</wrap>you know, whose knowledge is stupendous on these matters. <wrap hide>266|00:27:36|300|00:27:40|200</wrap>But, you know, he's given us enough to get started and we will continue. <wrap hide>267|00:27:40|200|00:27:45|280</wrap>Then the science of destiny, of which the progressed horoscope is the seed. <wrap hide>268|00:27:46|440|00:27:51|080</wrap>Where are we going? What is our direction? What are, from a soul perspective, <wrap hide>269|00:27:51|660|00:27:56|020</wrap>what type of accomplishment are we attempting to have in a particular incarnation? <wrap hide>270|00:27:56|540|00:28:01|260</wrap>What might be the next incarnation which is destined to appear? <wrap hide>271|00:28:01|700|00:28:06|320</wrap>Ultimately the science of destiny is a monadic factor altogether, <wrap hide>272|00:28:06|320|00:28:09|760</wrap>and perhaps that far ahead we cannot see. <wrap hide>273|00:28:10|640|00:28:15|080</wrap>We don't really need to, you know, one, the old saying, "Lead kindly light," you know, <wrap hide>274|00:28:15|220|00:28:19|900</wrap>One step is enough for me, as long as it's the right step. <wrap hide>275|00:28:20|960|00:28:26|440</wrap>So, consulting the rising sign and its rulers in relation to the science of destiny is very important, <wrap hide>276|00:28:26|440|00:28:34|360</wrap>and from a deeper perspective, we can consult the sign opposite the sun sign. <wrap hide>277|00:28:36|160|00:28:40|320</wrap>Which is—we can call it the monadic point from a certain perspective. <wrap hide>278|00:28:41|480|00:28:49|420</wrap>It's part of the triple sun theory which the modern esoteric astrologers are working on. <wrap hide>279|00:28:49|540|00:28:55|520</wrap>The triple sun being the normal physical sun in its position in your chart, your sun sign, <wrap hide>280|00:28:56|000|00:28:58|820</wrap>your ascendant, and the point opposite your sun sign. <wrap hide>281|00:28:58|820|00:29:03|400</wrap>These are the triple sun. The astrologer Steven Pugh is a very good one, <wrap hide>282|00:29:03|780|00:29:11|720</wrap>has emphasized this triple sun early on in the game, and it is very important for us to study. <wrap hide>283|00:29:13|100|00:29:18|080</wrap><wrap quote>This latter science will be based upon the four previous ones <wrap hide>284|00:29:18|080|00:29:24|880</wrap>and will constitute an interpretation of the future</wrap>—not, you know, in the particular incarnation, yes, <wrap hide>285|00:29:24|880|00:29:32|680</wrap>and also perhaps in future incarnations—<wrap quote>which will be founded on a correct understanding of the rays, <wrap hide>286|00:29:33|500|00:29:41|880</wrap>personal and egoic, of the influence of the</wrap> triangle: zodiacal, <wrap quote>planetary, racial, and human.</wrap> <wrap hide>287|00:29:43|100|00:29:47|720</wrap>Racial and human. Okay, there's a lot that is said there. <wrap hide>288|00:29:47|720|00:29:53|880</wrap>So, the science of destiny will depend upon—let us look here— <wrap hide>289|00:29:54|460|00:30:00|320</wrap>the science of the rays, esoteric interpretation, science of triangles, and the science of the centers. <wrap hide>290|00:30:02|740|00:30:07|260</wrap>Okay, we are always trying to predict our future within a particular incarnation, <wrap hide>291|00:30:07|940|00:30:12|900</wrap>but it's not just whether what will happen will be pleasant or unpleasant. <wrap hide>292|00:30:12|900|00:30:22|600</wrap>It's about whether it will be goal-fitting in terms of the intention of the soul <wrap hide>293|00:30:22|600|00:30:29|200</wrap>and will bring forward that part of the plan in which we are supposed to participate. <wrap hide>294|00:30:30|980|00:30:34|980</wrap>This science of destiny—well, according to your rays, so you will progress. <wrap hide>295|00:30:36|320|00:30:39|620</wrap>In a particular incarnation, the personal ray is very important, <wrap hide>296|00:30:39|620|00:30:46|860</wrap>but the soul ray will tell us something more about the trajectory of progress for lives to come. <wrap hide>297|00:30:47|560|00:30:52|940</wrap>A teacher becomes a better teacher; a leader or governor becomes a better governor. <wrap hide>298|00:30:53|080|00:30:58|160</wrap>All the future incarnations will reflect the quality of the soul ray. <wrap hide>299|00:31:00|060|00:31:06|460</wrap>And the influence of the triangles will be found planetarily and zodiacally in every horoscope. <wrap hide>300|00:31:07|360|00:31:15|140</wrap>There are chakric triangles, and there are also triangles between the races and the sub-races <wrap hide>301|00:31:15|140|00:31:22|300</wrap>and their great areas of expression—the countries through which they work. <wrap hide>302|00:31:22|400|00:31:27|240</wrap>We can begin to triangulate countries as well, with their particular rays <wrap hide>303|00:31:27|240|00:31:36|640</wrap>and what each one of these countries may represent in terms of the centers within the planetary Logos. <wrap hide>304|00:31:37|200|00:31:41|420</wrap>A number of different countries together and their rays may tend to constitute, let us say, <wrap hide>305|00:31:41|520|00:31:44|620</wrap>an Ajna center, or some a throat center, or some a solar plexus. <wrap hide>306|00:31:45|180|00:31:49|060</wrap>So we will want to study the human race at large <wrap hide>307|00:31:49|820|00:31:59|180</wrap>and to see which of the different groupings of units within it represent which particular centers. <wrap hide>308|00:31:59|400|00:32:03|880</wrap>That is also a very, very, very, very big subject. <wrap hide>309|00:32:04|500|00:32:11|580</wrap>Humanity as a whole may in one sense represent the throat center of the planetary Logos, <wrap hide>310|00:32:12|460|00:32:17|140</wrap>but within that throat center, there are all kinds of groupings <wrap hide>311|00:32:17|140|00:32:22|160</wrap>which represent seven chakras within humanity itself. <wrap hide>312|00:32:22|580|00:32:30|140</wrap>And the different races and sub-races and national groups tend to go to the constitution of those chakras. <wrap hide>313|00:32:30|940|00:32:38|820</wrap>Let us say that if we are looking at a collection of the aboriginal groups which have a definite function, <wrap hide>314|00:32:40|400|00:32:48|020</wrap>they would seem to be very related to the base of the spine center and some of its earlier functions. <wrap hide>315|00:32:48|720|00:32:56|260</wrap>When we look at the great intelligentsia found, let us say, in the great universities of the world and think tanks, <wrap hide>316|00:32:56|380|00:33:04|500</wrap>obviously they represent different types of chakras within the race of humanity: the throat center, the Ajna center. <wrap hide>317|00:33:05|240|00:33:13|600</wrap>When we tend to look at those who are motivated by divine love and divine purpose, still other centers are involved. <wrap hide>318|00:33:15|400|00:33:23|500</wrap>Okay, so we have all of these different triangles that are involved in the science of destiny. <wrap hide>319|00:33:23|660|00:33:32|800</wrap>It is extremely intricate, but you know, with every individual, there must be one vector that comes forth. <wrap hide>320|00:33:32|800|00:33:41|220</wrap>There is the sum of all the different tendencies, and it will be that vector—that direction pursued with force— <wrap hide>321|00:33:42|260|00:33:48|940</wrap>which will tell us where we are going as individuals and as larger aggregates. <wrap hide>322|00:33:49|800|00:33:56|660</wrap><wrap quote>These latter triangles are arrived at by a study of the individual human</wrap> centers. <wrap hide>323|00:33:56|660|00:34:09|040</wrap>Well, we are doing that, and from studying these individual human centers, let us say, we can extrapolate to the larger chakras. <wrap hide>324|00:34:10|580|00:34:18|420</wrap>There is so much that can be learned about zodiacal planetary triangles, even I suppose racial triangles, <wrap hide>325|00:34:18|460|00:34:25|200</wrap>by studying the chakras of the individual human being and the way they develop, when they develop, <wrap hide>326|00:34:25|200|00:34:28|700</wrap>the relationships achieved as they develop. <wrap hide>327|00:34:29|980|00:34:34|340</wrap>You know, there is always going to be a transference from the sacral to the throat center and all these entities. <wrap hide>328|00:34:35|100|00:34:40|700</wrap>There will be from the solar plexus to the heart. There will be eventually from the base of the spine to the crown. <wrap hide>329|00:34:40|880|00:34:52|640</wrap>There will be transfers, and this kind of thing will happen in solar systems, and it will happen within planets as well. <wrap hide>330|00:34:52|640|00:34:57|560</wrap>And it will happen within those great beings we call zodiacal lords. <wrap hide>331|00:34:57|860|00:35:06|640</wrap>These transfers will go on. Although, you know, when you look at a zodiacal lord and the different kinds of stars <wrap hide>332|00:35:06|640|00:35:15|400</wrap>that are related to such a great being, it is a bit hard to sort out which are the particular chakras within that constellation. <wrap hide>333|00:35:15|400|00:35:25|620</wrap>But within sevenfold constellations, which have seven major stars in them, it is probably possible to make an educated guess <wrap hide>334|00:35:25|620|00:35:31|540</wrap>about which will be the chakric centers within any such greater being. <wrap hide>335|00:35:31|700|00:35:38|520</wrap>For instance, in the cosmic Logos in which our solar system and solar Logos participate, <wrap hide>336|00:35:38|520|00:35:42|700</wrap>we play the function of a heart center. <wrap hide>337|00:35:43|540|00:35:50|800</wrap>And other solar Logoi with whom our solar Logos is associated will play the functions of different centers. <wrap hide>338|00:35:51|040|00:36:02|540</wrap>Now, you know, one day, and maybe it is happening even now, there is a transfer from that which represents the solar plexus center <wrap hide>339|00:36:02|540|00:36:07|380</wrap>in our solar system to that which represents the heart center. <wrap hide>340|00:36:07|380|00:36:12|300</wrap>Okay, now what about in a cosmic Logos? The sun is representing the heart center. <wrap hide>341|00:36:12|500|00:36:23|700</wrap>What is that particular solar Logos in our sevenfold cosmic Logoic system that represents the solar plexus? <wrap hide>342|00:36:24|060|00:36:32|000</wrap>Because obviously a transference of energy, analogically considered, will be moving from the solar plexus to the heart <wrap hide>343|00:36:32|000|00:36:39|920</wrap>within this greater being, and we will be receiving that energy in our solar system, and that will affect us. <wrap hide>344|00:36:40|400|00:36:49|840</wrap>So the implications are wide-ranging, and they are useful to the point it helps us get our own house in order <wrap hide>345|00:36:49|840|00:36:52|980</wrap>and take care of our own chakric system. <wrap hide>346|00:36:54|560|00:37:03|620</wrap>Now, when all this has been ascertained—I love that word because it does tend to mean "made certain." <wrap hide>347|00:37:04|640|00:37:07|400</wrap>In other words, it is not just a guess; you really know what you are talking about. <wrap hide>348|00:37:07|920|00:37:09|980</wrap>So it will be a while yet before this is ascertained. <wrap hide>349|00:37:11|160|00:37:19|160</wrap><wrap quote>When all this has been ascertained and worked out in the new style of horoscope,</wrap> which will later be developed— <wrap hide>350|00:37:19|160|00:37:26|580</wrap>and much later, we don't know—many are the attempts now to develop the new style of horoscope, <wrap hide>351|00:37:26|780|00:37:32|260</wrap>but the masters certainly have horoscopes of which we know very little and which are extremely revealing, we are told— <wrap hide>352|00:37:33|080|00:37:40|260</wrap><wrap quote>then the science of destiny will be applied and the future indications discovered.</wrap> <wrap hide>353|00:37:40|480|00:37:46|000</wrap>I mean, you know, it's very good to know where we're going, even in one particular life, <wrap hide>354|00:37:46|000|00:37:50|920</wrap>and the progressed horoscope is perhaps the seed of that type of discovery. <wrap hide>355|00:37:51|820|00:37:57|400</wrap>And the directed horoscope also helps, and transits properly interpreted also help. <wrap hide>356|00:37:58|160|00:37:59|860</wrap>Where are we going in this incarnation? <wrap hide>357|00:38:00|060|00:38:09|480</wrap>But just imagine if we could see the trend of the lives that we tend to be living at this time. <wrap hide>358|00:38:11|220|00:38:13|940</wrap>What are the last several? What are the next several? <wrap hide>359|00:38:14|160|00:38:23|540</wrap>What role does this particular incarnation play in the several lives that we will be leading, <wrap hide>360|00:38:23|540|00:38:31|540</wrap>and the plan for which has already been formulated in the consciousness of the directing solar angel <wrap hide>361|00:38:31|540|00:38:37|080</wrap>and in the consciousness of man as the ego when he can see clearly from the higher mental plane? <wrap hide>362|00:38:37|080|00:38:42|680</wrap>Wouldn't that be interesting to know? Future indications will be discovered, <wrap hide>363|00:38:44|160|00:38:53|900</wrap>only so that we can work with greater accuracy and advantage in the particular incarnation in which we are found. <wrap hide>364|00:38:54|720|00:38:59|900</wrap><wrap quote>Of this, the personal progressed horoscope is the embryonic seed.</wrap> I love that. <wrap hide>365|00:39:00|900|00:39:03|920</wrap>There are so many different ways to operate with progressions. <wrap hide>366|00:39:03|920|00:39:10|780</wrap>You know how astrologers are. Some of them have so much of the third and fifth ray that they find many, many techniques, <wrap hide>367|00:39:11|800|00:39:19|380</wrap>trying to prove that a particular technique is perhaps the best, but perhaps all of them are helpful in some degree. <wrap hide>368|00:39:19|600|00:39:27|100</wrap>There's great complexity in it all, but if we can just get the essentials, I think we're doing what we can do <wrap hide>369|00:39:27|240|00:39:29|260</wrap>as students of esotericism this time. <wrap hide>370|00:39:29|260|00:39:36|600</wrap>We'll leave this to the profound technical experts over the centuries to work out all of the different methods of progression, <wrap hide>371|00:39:36|760|00:39:43|120</wrap>but certainly the day-for-a-year method is very important, and there are even different ways of doing that. <wrap hide>372|00:39:45|960|00:39:53|500</wrap>Yes, I've talked to some astrologers who say that our normal methods of progression are a bit faulty <wrap hide>373|00:39:53|500|00:40:02|480</wrap>and sometimes they choose a different type of progression which is more of an average of the sun's progression <wrap hide>374|00:40:02|480|00:40:13|460</wrap>because the sun doesn't progress the same number of degrees and minutes of arc and seconds of arc every day. <wrap hide>375|00:40:13|720|00:40:15|460</wrap>There are differences in that. <wrap hide>376|00:40:15|460|00:40:24|500</wrap>Well, of course, since a day equals a year, we're talking about the sun moving at a differential rate, <wrap hide>377|00:40:24|800|00:40:30|800</wrap>although it's very close, but it's differential, every year, i.e., every day. <wrap hide>378|00:40:31|420|00:40:36|100</wrap>So that's one method of progression, but the directed horoscope is also very important <wrap hide>379|00:40:36|100|00:40:45|560</wrap>and there we have the addition of approximately one degree a year to every planet in the horoscope. <wrap hide>380|00:40:45|880|00:40:52|860</wrap>So the horoscope maintains its pattern, but everything just shifts one degree a year with the pattern maintained. <wrap hide>381|00:40:54|280|00:40:58|860</wrap>One degree is a rounded-off number, but some astrologers actually use the one degree method. <wrap hide>382|00:40:58|860|00:41:10|820</wrap>Others direct the entire horoscope by exactly the amount that the sun has moved during a particular year. <wrap hide>383|00:41:12|040|00:41:21|460</wrap>Others choose an average sun motion and move every factor in the horoscope by that particular average. <wrap hide>384|00:41:22|500|00:41:35|380</wrap>This directed horoscope does work. From the pragmatic point of view, a day of our Lord is a year of our time. <wrap hide>385|00:41:36|640|00:41:47|680</wrap>When you add the approximate amount that the sun has traveled every day, i.e., every year, to every factor in the horoscope, <wrap hide>386|00:41:47|680|00:42:01|840</wrap>factors such as Pluto, Uranus, Saturn, Neptune, and so forth, that move quite slowly in the personal progressed horoscope, <wrap hide>387|00:42:01|840|00:42:08|140</wrap>you will find some amazing contacts being made between these outer planets, <wrap hide>388|00:42:09|360|00:42:14|420</wrap>moving forward by approximately a degree a year with other planets and other angles, <wrap hide>389|00:42:14|420|00:42:25|220</wrap>and by whatever means it does occur, the energies are brought in and we do experience them. <wrap hide>390|00:42:25|220|00:42:44|160</wrap>Okay, now, so you know, there's the science of destiny taking the seed, being developed from the seed of the personal progressed horoscope. <wrap hide>391|00:42:44|360|00:42:52|040</wrap>What a lot of work remains to be done here, and I might almost add the personal regressed horoscope, <wrap hide>392|00:42:52|040|00:43:01|640</wrap>in which what is called converse directions and regressions are used. <wrap hide>393|00:43:01|780|00:43:08|460</wrap>In other words, for the first year of life, we look not only for the first day after birth, <wrap hide>394|00:43:08|560|00:43:16|500</wrap>we look for the first day before birth, and we keep on going in these opposite directions, and different contacts are made. <wrap hide>395|00:43:16|500|00:43:24|920</wrap>Now, the tendency is to think of the contacts made with converse directions or regressed directions, <wrap hide>396|00:43:25|480|00:43:36|380</wrap>regressed progressions, or I call them regressions, okay, so instead of progressions, regressions, instead of directions, converse directions, <wrap hide>397|00:43:37|040|00:43:45|340</wrap>the contacts made may have some sort of karmic implication, because we are, as it were, moving backwards in time, <wrap hide>398|00:43:45|340|00:43:58|640</wrap>and maybe touching upon points of resonance with past events of a karmic nature which are thereby being brought into the present life. <wrap hide>399|00:43:59|800|00:44:10|220</wrap>Of course, you know, so much research has to be done, and the danger is being, can be considered being lost in a multiplicity of data. <wrap hide>400|00:44:10|220|00:44:19|000</wrap>When you just have, you know, hundreds and thousands of correlations, you can find something to justify anything. <wrap hide>401|00:44:20|580|00:44:31|100</wrap>But with the proper type of computer work and astute astrology, we will see whether these regressions on the day-for-a-year method, <wrap hide>402|00:44:31|100|00:44:44|060</wrap>or the converse directions of, in a way, subtracting one degree a year from all planets and seeing what angles are made, <wrap hide>403|00:44:44|120|00:44:50|880</wrap>we will see whether they stand up. Those who have used them say they do. <wrap hide>404|00:44:50|880|00:45:04|000</wrap>But what we need in astrology is the ability to handle a tremendous amount of data in a manner that is not excessively time-consuming. <wrap hide>405|00:45:04|300|00:45:13|880</wrap>This is our problem, but the developments in computer science in relation to astrology will, I think, allow us to do this. <wrap hide>406|00:45:13|880|00:45:32|260</wrap>Okay, <wrap quote>some indication of the relative values can be gained by consideration of the human triangles as given in A Treatise on Cosmic Fire which suggested the following.</wrap> <wrap hide>407|00:45:32|260|00:45:45|020</wrap>I think I've been there, okay, to that section, but let's see what he does, because sometimes he harkens back to Cosmic Fire in the later books. <wrap hide>408|00:45:45|480|00:45:53|940</wrap>Okay, I do believe this is the section around page 170. Well, we'll just read through it. I think we've discussed it a bit. <wrap hide>409|00:45:53|940|00:46:01|460</wrap><wrap quote>It would repay the student to contemplate the interesting succession of triangles that are to be found, <wrap hide>410|00:46:01|800|00:46:10|980</wrap>and the way in which they must be linked by the progression of the fire before that fire can perfectly vivify them.</wrap> <wrap hide>411|00:46:11|000|00:46:17|740</wrap>So first comes the linking of the different triangles, and then the transmission from point to point, <wrap hide>412|00:46:17|740|00:46:29|660</wrap>and then with that transmission a composite vivification until there is perfect vivification, not only of each chakra but of the entire triangle. <wrap hide>413|00:46:30|440|00:46:44|160</wrap>And then pass on to other transmutations, and there's the word, because as the fires rise and as the triangles are vivified, transmutation is in progress. <wrap hide>414|00:46:44|160|00:46:57|300</wrap>And the matter of our system, our little microcosmic system, is being gradually upgraded, refined, made more receptive. <wrap hide>415|00:46:57|620|00:47:09|920</wrap>So with the rising through the lower triangles to the higher triangles, there is a gradual transmutation of all the matter in the personal system, <wrap hide>416|00:47:09|920|00:47:21|400</wrap>and there will be other and higher transmutations going on within the causal body until it is properly developed and can be dispensed with. <wrap hide>417|00:47:22|760|00:47:34|220</wrap><wrap quote>We might enumerate some of these triangles, bearing always in mind that according to the ray,</wrap> and by that he means—by that he means the monadic ray. <wrap hide>418|00:47:34|220|00:47:46|400</wrap>That's very important. You say, "Well, monadic ray doesn't have a whole lot of practical utility yet," but according to the monadic ray, <wrap quote>so will be the geometric rising of the fire. <wrap hide>419|00:47:47|620|00:47:54|680</wrap>And according to the ray, so will the points be touched in ordered sequence.</wrap> <wrap hide>420|00:47:54|680|00:48:05|940</wrap>Now, you know, here's one of D.K.'s methods of blinding, you know, the ray. Well, which? You know, we might think personality ray, we might think soul ray, <wrap hide>421|00:48:06|060|00:48:22|440</wrap>but elsewhere he makes it pretty clear that it's the monadic ray that has this really real connection with the etheric body, and according to which in a general way, the different parts of a triangle are vivified. <wrap hide>422|00:48:22|440|00:48:37|600</wrap>You know, we always, in a way, it's always knowledge first, love second, will third. But as I have said, although knowledge goes first for the second ray monad, <wrap hide>423|00:48:38|340|00:48:49|380</wrap>the point in a triangle representing the love will keep pace with it. Will is always the hardest to develop, but for the first ray monad, <wrap hide>424|00:48:49|380|00:49:07|380</wrap>it will come into expression sooner than for the other types of monads, and in fact it will be the love emphasis which will have to be developed by the first ray monad, <wrap hide>425|00:49:07|380|00:49:27|640</wrap>and which may be a little bit more retarded in its development than for the other ray types. Certainly the love point will be much slower in development for the first ray monad than for the second, and even for the third ray monad. <wrap hide>426|00:49:27|640|00:49:39|380</wrap>And so it goes that for each type of monad, one point in the triangle is most difficult to develop, and one point is easiest to develop. <wrap hide>427|00:49:39|600|00:49:48|360</wrap>For the third ray monad, obviously the knowledge point is the easiest to develop, as it is for all, but especially for the third ray monad, most rapidly. <wrap hide>428|00:49:48|360|00:50:02|140</wrap>For the second ray monad, the love emphasis, the love point in the triangle is the easiest to develop, even though it is second in order, generically considered. <wrap hide>429|00:50:03|000|00:50:13|300</wrap>And for the first ray monad, the will point is easiest to develop. What is most difficult for the third ray monad is to develop the will. <wrap hide>430|00:50:14|060|00:50:21|180</wrap>What is most difficult for the second ray monad is to develop knowledge. What is most difficult for the first ray monad is to develop love. <wrap hide>431|00:50:22|280|00:50:34|200</wrap>This is what I've concluded in reading from A Treatise on Cosmic Fire. So all of us, according to our monadic ray, are in process of dealing with the geometric rising of the fire. <wrap hide>432|00:50:34|200|00:50:50|020</wrap>Of course, it is mostly unconscious to us, but if we are able to isolate the particular triangle with which we are working in any particular incarnation, assuming that there is one particular which receives the most emphasis, <wrap hide>433|00:50:50|300|00:50:59|680</wrap>we may be able to look at the three members of that triangle and see which is in the greatest state of development and which needs attention. <wrap hide>434|00:51:00|620|00:51:03|860</wrap>So let's go on here a little bit. <wrap hide>435|00:51:05|060|00:51:14|480</wrap><wrap quote>Herein lies one of the secrets of initiation,</wrap> he says, because Sanat Kumara certainly knows what to vivify next and how to equilibrate the energies, <wrap hide>436|00:51:14|880|00:51:28|840</wrap>and also readiness for initiation may have to do something with the degree of equilibration of a particular triangle, which is to receive the emphasis. <wrap hide>437|00:51:28|840|00:51:40|340</wrap>It is solar fire, which is the equilibrating energy, and perhaps it must be applied to a triangle to bring about greater type of Libran balance, <wrap hide>438|00:51:41|940|00:51:47|380</wrap>Libra being not only a third ray sign, but I intuitively think at least a second ray sign as well. <wrap hide>439|00:51:48|080|00:51:54|700</wrap><wrap quote>And herein are found some of the dangers entailed in a too quick publication of information concerning the rays.</wrap> <wrap hide>440|00:51:54|700|00:52:14|240</wrap>Well, it is of such complexity that it can be presented in the uncorrelated form, and people will just look at it as an impenetrable mass of information that they can't fully understand. <wrap hide>441|00:52:14|240|00:52:27|760</wrap>But when the compilations begin to be made and the organization of the information in a more assimilable manner begins to occur, then we have the possibility, a greater possibility of misuse. <wrap hide>442|00:52:28|440|00:52:36|740</wrap>Well anyway, the Pranic triangle is here, it's got the shoulder center at the lower part of the shoulder blades, not the heart center. <wrap hide>443|00:52:36|740|00:52:44|880</wrap>We have the center near the diaphragm, which is higher than the solar plexus, and I believe it's above the diaphragm, the last I checked. <wrap hide>444|00:52:45|360|00:52:57|360</wrap>And then we have the spleen, which is below the diaphragm. So here we have sort of the first ray center, the shoulder center, center near the diaphragm, second center, second ray center, and the spleen, the third ray center. <wrap hide>445|00:52:57|360|00:53:17|880</wrap>We're assuming that we would have a correlation here with first, second, and third ray monads: the spleen receiving activation first, in general generically the center near the diaphragm second, and the shoulder center at last, but activation varying according to the monadic ray. <wrap hide>446|00:53:18|040|00:53:21|500</wrap>Anyway, it's a foundational, in a way, Lemurian triangle. <wrap hide>447|00:53:22|040|00:53:25|680</wrap>Yes, we did deal with this before, but you know it's worth a little review. <wrap hide>448|00:53:26|800|00:53:37|160</wrap>The one thing when dealing with Master D.K.'s material is review, review, review, and slowly assimilate until it all begins to correlate. <wrap hide>449|00:53:38|540|00:53:43|120</wrap>Assimilate to the point of correlation, and correlation will bring unification. <wrap hide>450|00:53:44|520|00:53:53|900</wrap><wrap quote>Man controlled from the astral plane</wrap>—which is not the people who are reading this book, although there is some astral control naturally; we haven't mastered that thing completely. <wrap hide>451|00:53:54|760|00:54:05|460</wrap>Base of the spine center, solar plexus, and heart. In this particular case, I suppose the third ray point would be the base of the spine. <wrap hide>452|00:54:07|660|00:54:11|520</wrap>We have to look at what would be the highest controlling center. <wrap hide>453|00:54:12|880|00:54:20|420</wrap>Okay, the battery is just about gone. So you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to come back to this. <wrap hide>454|00:54:21|560|00:54:26|080</wrap>I'm going to come back to this. Just excuse me for just a moment. <wrap hide>455|00:54:31|420|00:54:37|500</wrap>Yes, there is a problem, as I'm not really getting juice here. <wrap hide>456|00:54:38|480|00:54:46|120</wrap>Okay, we will come back to this, and I will do The Great Invocation at this point, because we are just about at the end of our rope. <wrap hide>457|00:54:47|220|00:54:50|960</wrap>And I don't want to have this close off. <wrap hide>458|00:54:50|960|00:54:54|840</wrap>So, The Great Invocation. <wrap hide>459|00:54:56|100|00:55:04|440</wrap>From the point of light within the mind of God, let light stream forth into the minds of men. Let light descend on earth. <wrap hide>460|00:55:05|620|00:55:17|680</wrap>From the point of love within the heart of God—oh well—let love stream forth into the hearts of men. May Christ return to earth. <wrap hide>461|00:55:19|220|00:55:27|920</wrap>From the center where the will of God is known, let purpose guide the little wills of men—the purpose which the masters know and serve. <wrap hide>462|00:55:28|920|00:55:37|920</wrap>And from the center which we call the race of men, let the plan of love and light work out, and may it seal the door where evil dwells. <wrap hide>463|00:55:38|780|00:55:42|880</wrap>Let light and love and power restore the plan on earth. <wrap hide>464|00:55:44|620|00:55:46|020</wrap>Om. <wrap hide>465|00:55:54|100|00:55:55|500</wrap>Om. <wrap hide>466|00:55:56|620|00:55:57|260</wrap>Om. <wrap hide>467|00:56:06|720|00:56:07|360</wrap>Om. <wrap hide>468|00:56:18|740|00:56:22|540</wrap>Okay, friends, actually, I discovered it was a very simple problem. <wrap hide>469|00:56:23|280|00:56:34|720</wrap>We actually have just a few more minutes here, so I'm just a tiny bit out of order, still to represent the fact that Mercury is really retrograde and has caused many people many problems. <wrap hide>470|00:56:36|300|00:56:40|980</wrap>In a way here, when you look at the heart, it is the greatest of the centers, so you could think it relates to the first ray. <wrap hide>471|00:56:42|520|00:56:55|240</wrap>But from another perspective, the base of the spine represents the first ray, the solar plexus having to do with the sixth ray is related to the third, and the heart may be the second ray center. <wrap hide>472|00:56:55|640|00:57:07|160</wrap>There are different ways to look at this, but in terms of the power of the center at a particular time, it may be only the third ray aspect of the base of the spine center which is emerging. <wrap hide>473|00:57:08|760|00:57:15|960</wrap>And the solar plexus may be connected in this case as the middle center and the heart with the first ray. <wrap hide>474|00:57:16|800|00:57:22|620</wrap>But the heart does seem to stay in that position for quite a while—<wrap quote>man controlled from the mental plane.</wrap> <wrap hide>475|00:57:23|500|00:57:33|600</wrap>The base of the spine center in this particular case will again be the first ray, the heart will be the second ray, and the throat obviously the third ray. <wrap hide>476|00:57:33|600|00:57:47|300</wrap>But in terms of their ordering, the base of the spine is in the third position, the heart in the second position, and the throat is the foremost emphasis during the phase of man controlled from the mental plane. <wrap hide>477|00:57:47|800|00:57:49|680</wrap>So there are two ways of looking at this. <wrap hide>478|00:57:49|680|00:58:01|880</wrap>When we look at it from the point of view of the rays, the base of the spine has the obvious first ray connection, ruled by Pluto and some other planets. <wrap hide>479|00:58:02|020|00:58:05|020</wrap>The heart is an obvious second ray connection, though the throat the third ray. <wrap hide>480|00:58:06|460|00:58:19|000</wrap>In this particular relationship, when the monad is the first ray, the base of the spine may receive more stimulation than for monads of other types. <wrap hide>481|00:58:19|000|00:58:32|240</wrap>So one way of ordering these triangles is according to the ray they express, and the other is according to their so-called height or level within the etheric body. <wrap hide>482|00:58:32|440|00:58:37|160</wrap>The throat, with its 16 petals, having a higher position than any of the others. <wrap hide>483|00:58:38|560|00:58:46|780</wrap>When it comes to man controlled by the ego or advanced man, we have the heart, the throat, and the head. <wrap hide>484|00:58:47|860|00:58:53|720</wrap>We cannot really say that the heart represents the third ray; it always represents the second. <wrap hide>485|00:58:54|740|00:59:01|120</wrap>The throat, in this case, represents the third ray, and the head, the will centers, the first ray. <wrap hide>486|00:59:01|120|00:59:15|160</wrap>But the heart is technically in a lower and sustaining position in this particular triangle, and it is a constant, but the throat is receiving greater emphasis. <wrap hide>487|00:59:15|760|00:59:22|240</wrap>There are some initiations, the first and the second really, in which both heart and throat receive emphasis. <wrap hide>488|00:59:22|240|00:59:33|060</wrap>The heart especially for the first initiation in a certain way, and yet the throat and sacral center have a peculiar relationship in that initiation. <wrap hide>489|00:59:33|500|00:59:45|720</wrap>And we could say that the throat center has a peculiar emphasis in the second initiation, and yet, because we're achieving spiritual intelligence and mental illumination of a kind, <wrap hide>490|00:59:45|720|00:59:53|440</wrap>but the heart does receive stimulation of the second degree because of the raising of the solar plexus energy to the heart. <wrap hide>491|00:59:53|860|00:59:59|180</wrap>So in both these initiations we have both the heart and throat involved. <wrap hide>492|01:00:00|500|01:00:15|160</wrap>But our interest here is the progression of the fires according to the monadic ray, and I think a very safe way of looking at it is in general the type of rays that go through the particular... <wrap hide>493|01:00:16|120|01:00:27|460</wrap>through the particular centers. Now, when it comes to the very first, or pranic triangle, that's not a totally safe way of looking at it because there's no way that the... <wrap hide>494|01:00:27|460|01:00:34|300</wrap>no, excuse me, the second triangle, that the base of the spine will be maximally stimulated at that time by the first ray. <wrap hide>495|01:00:34|400|01:00:42|180</wrap>It just will not happen because of the stage of development, and yet the base of the spine has a definite first ray connection. <wrap hide>496|01:00:42|180|01:00:46|120</wrap>And yet it sustains all in the field of matter. <wrap hide>497|01:00:47|080|01:00:55|540</wrap>Well, you know, I kind of wanted to finish this little bit. The seven head centers, heart, throat, and seven head centers, just the same. <wrap hide>498|01:00:55|720|01:01:01|020</wrap>Heart, second ray; throat, third ray; and seven head centers, first ray. <wrap hide>499|01:01:01|980|01:01:12|280</wrap>And now this is interesting though, you know, you ever wonder whether the heart can in a way, because it is the vitality, take up the third ray position. <wrap hide>500|01:01:12|380|01:01:21|300</wrap>Normally it does not, but it can be the foundation, the etheric vital foundation, and in that respect correlate with the etheric body and the third ray. <wrap hide>501|01:01:21|300|01:01:31|360</wrap>The seven head centers here would be a Vulcanian expression along the second ray line because Vulcan is related to the heart of the sun internally, <wrap hide>502|01:01:31|740|01:01:37|640</wrap>which is very, you know, unusual to think about, and the two many-petaled lotuses would be the first ray combination. <wrap hide>503|01:01:38|260|01:01:46|320</wrap>Anyway, we did go over this, and there are different ways of thinking about it, both generically and in terms of the level of the center, <wrap hide>504|01:01:47|000|01:02:01|280</wrap>and in terms of the ray passing through the chakra. So here we are, we're probably still, I don't know what page we're on, I suppose it's page 88. <wrap hide>505|01:02:01|860|01:02:17|420</wrap>Okay, we've made it to page 88, so this is the end of Esoteric Astrology Adventure number 40, from 86 to 88, and we will continue as time allows. <wrap hide>506|01:02:18|320|01:02:32|140</wrap>Right now I find myself in a rather cold little tepee, literally, and I'll do my best to continue these as I would like to get through this whole book, <wrap hide>507|01:02:32|320|01:02:42|740</wrap>which will be not only a study of esoteric astrology, but will try to bring in many psychological and cosmological factors, <wrap hide>508|01:02:42|740|01:02:56|920</wrap>sort of a synthesis of occultism as far as I can see. But of course, if I were to use different books, my tendency to synthesize occultism would have a different flavor. <wrap hide>509|01:02:57|640|01:03:07|420</wrap>Alright, we're not too bad, so friends, that will be it for the moment, end number 40, and we will see you before... excuse that The Great Invocation is a little bit out of order, <wrap hide>510|01:03:07|420|01:03:16|420</wrap>but I thought we were going to have a crash and there's no way to redeem the program that I've just made for you if there's a crash. <wrap hide>511|01:03:17|500|01:03:23|420</wrap>Okay, we'll see you soon, and many blessings to everybody, and we'll talk to you later.
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