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-<wrap hide>1|00:00:07|900|00:00:11|000</wrap>Good morning, everybody. <wrap hide>2|00:00:13|360|00:00:21|940</wrap>This is our Esoteric Astrology adventure number 49. <wrap hide>3|00:00:24|140|00:00:32|680</wrap>And somehow some downloads have <wrap quote>just</wrap> begun, so I hope that this does not compromise our audio quality. <wrap hide>4|00:00:34|420|00:00:45|480</wrap>We have reached page 105 in the book, and we have been discussing the exaltations, <wrap hide>5|00:01:15|480|00:01:24|780</wrap>the subject that the Sun in exaltation represents, and then there is Saturn that falls in Aries in two ways. <wrap hide>6|00:01:25|700|00:01:42|600</wrap>It falls down into the lower planes of the cosmic physical plane there to administer karma, and it falls away as the individual enters the cardinal cross. <wrap hide>7|00:01:44|380|00:01:47|440</wrap>Now let's see what we have. <wrap hide>8|00:01:48|620|00:02:05|680</wrap><wrap quote>There is much that could be elaborated along this line, says the Tibetan, but the above will give a hint as to the esoteric significance of these three happenings within every sign.</wrap> <wrap hide>9|00:02:05|740|00:02:10|220</wrap>That is an exaltation, a detriment, and a fall. <wrap hide>10|00:02:10|220|00:02:17|400</wrap>As for rulership, a D.K. seems to describe these quite extensively. <wrap hide>11|00:02:18|840|00:02:24|660</wrap>They can indicate much concerning the man <wrap quote>whose horoscope is under consideration.</wrap> <wrap hide>12|00:02:25|880|00:02:36|360</wrap>And perhaps that is the spiritual opportunity presented to the individual, as long as we know something about the place at which he stands. <wrap hide>13|00:02:36|360|00:02:52|580</wrap>It does us no good to speak of the average individual who has the Sun in Aries as experiencing the opportunity of the emergence of the monad or father aspect. <wrap hide>14|00:02:53|920|00:03:05|300</wrap>That Venus is in detriment does not indicate that such an individual is ready for the fading out of <wrap quote>the solar angel</wrap> because so much has been accomplished in the realm of the soul. <wrap hide>15|00:03:05|300|00:03:27|680</wrap>As for Saturn in Aries, one of the interpretations that <wrap quote>Saturn cannot follow a man onto the cardinal cross</wrap> would not apply because the people with whom we are dealing, and ourselves as well, are not at all ready to enter the cardinal cross. <wrap hide>16|00:03:27|680|00:03:42|660</wrap>But the fall of Saturn into the lower worlds where karma is administered, the way Saturn follows a man down into the lower three worlds, that particular fall, the interpretation could apply. <wrap hide>17|00:03:42|660|00:03:59|680</wrap><wrap quote>The decanates can also be dealt with in two ways, according to the direction in which man is traveling upon the wheel, and therefore entering the sign, and he is speaking in symbols,</wrap> speaking in symbols. <wrap hide>18|00:04:01|960|00:04:11|720</wrap>It all depends how one responds to this, to the various decanates. <wrap hide>19|00:04:11|720|00:04:25|320</wrap><wrap quote>If he enters Aries when on the common cross, he will come under the influence of Mars, Sun and Jupiter, according to Sepharial.</wrap> <wrap hide>20|00:04:25|320|00:04:46|140</wrap>Sepharial's method of assigning the decanates has to do with the orbital period, and here he is working his way, let's see, Mars, the Sun and Jupiter. <wrap hide>21|00:04:47|160|00:05:07|100</wrap>That's interesting. I'll have to check that in my list of decanates. Usually he works his way out or in according to the period of the planet around the Sun, or around the Earth rather, geocentrically considered. <wrap hide>22|00:05:07|100|00:05:26|080</wrap><wrap quote>This means conflict,</wrap> which is Mars, revelation, which has to do with the light of the Sun, and the successful satisfaction of desire, which Jupiter always accords, and ambition, <wrap quote>as the aeons pass away.</wrap> <wrap hide>23|00:05:27|160|00:05:46|260</wrap>Ambition can be associated either with Mars, well, with any of these really, Mars, Jupiter or the Sun. <wrap quote>When he reorients himself and mounts the fixed cross,</wrap> the cross of the soul, <wrap quote>he comes under the influence of Jupiter</wrap> for the first decanate, the Sun for the second, and Mars. <wrap hide>24|00:05:46|260|00:06:01|680</wrap><wrap quote>For the initiate and the disciple culminates his career in any of the signs with a final and dominant struggle, and this, Mars, represents struggle and fight. <wrap hide>1|00:00:07|900|00:00:11|000</wrap>I would remark here that Alan Leo had a glimpse of the inner significance of the decanates when he assigned Mars, the Sun and Venus to the three decanates.</wrap> <wrap hide>26|00:06:14|860|00:06:29|420</wrap>Now, there Mars would be the first, the Sun second, and Venus would be the third. <wrap quote>He touched the truth of the inner subjective reversal upon the wheel,</wrap> which brings in other energies. <wrap hide>27|00:06:29|420|00:06:46|260</wrap>And I think what I would like to do here is speak a little bit about the decanates. This is the opportunity to do so, and I have some other charts which should help in this respect. <wrap hide>28|00:06:50|840|00:07:06|460</wrap>So, let us look at some of the decanate assignments as they have been gathered over the years. <wrap hide>29|00:07:06|460|00:07:22|660</wrap>We have here, well first of all, let's review what has been said by Alan Leo, and the manner in which it has been said. <wrap hide>30|00:07:23|460|00:07:32|400</wrap>We have the Mars, Sun and Jupiter according to Sepharial, and here they are. <wrap hide>31|00:07:34|100|00:07:42|560</wrap>Mars, Sun and Jupiter according to Sepharial. Let's see if I have, yes, there we go. Aha! This is interesting. <wrap hide>32|00:07:42|560|00:08:02|760</wrap>All right. Yes, it will be necessary to check this because what I see has happened is that the Sepharial method has been assigned to Alan Leo. <wrap hide>33|00:08:02|760|00:08:15|140</wrap>I wonder if this is a mistake in the text. We usually have Sepharial moving inward and outward according to orbital period. <wrap hide>34|00:08:15|140|00:08:27|520</wrap>So the arrangement for Sepharial would be Mars, Sun and Venus according to the length of the orbits. <wrap hide>35|00:08:27|780|00:08:39|480</wrap>And this would be followed according to length of orbit by Mercury and the Moon, and then we would go outward again to Saturn and move inward. <wrap hide>36|00:08:39|480|00:08:55|460</wrap>This is the way Sepharial operates, so Venus would technically be the ruler of the third decanate, i.e., the first decanate on the reversing wheel. <wrap hide>37|00:08:55|460|00:09:13|440</wrap>It's the ruler of the third decanate on the retrogressive wheel. So it would be Sepharial and not Alan Leo who would be assigning Venus to that position. <wrap hide>38|00:09:13|540|00:09:24|100</wrap>But this has to be sorted out because I'm very hesitant to think that there are mistakes in this book, as the Tibetan did proofread this. <wrap hide>39|00:09:24|100|00:09:30|580</wrap>We have the Alan Leo decanates as Mars, Sun, and Jupiter. <wrap hide>40|00:09:33|280|00:09:41|320</wrap>And let's see, they are found here. Let's see if I can... it's a little difficult to... yes. <wrap hide>41|00:09:42|480|00:09:45|700</wrap>Alan Leo, yes. Mars, Sun, and Jupiter. <wrap hide>42|00:09:46|360|00:09:53|160</wrap>Mars, the ruler of Aries. The Sun, the ruler of Leo. So we're in the Leo decanate of Aries. <wrap hide>43|00:09:53|160|00:09:56|460</wrap>And Jupiter, the ruler of Sagittarius. <wrap hide>44|00:09:57|840|00:10:05|880</wrap>Yes, there's no question about it. According to the way Sepharial usually operates, the order would be Mars, Sun, and Venus. <wrap hide>45|00:10:06|080|00:10:11|400</wrap>And according to the way Alan Leo usually operates, it would be Mars, Sun, and Jupiter. <wrap hide>46|00:10:11|560|00:10:19|500</wrap>And we have to question why it appears to be other than that in the text. <wrap hide>47|00:10:20|360|00:10:39|060</wrap>So what we generally have, here is a description of this, is that with Sepharial or with the wheel going backwards in the clockwise order, <wrap hide>48|00:10:40|820|00:10:44|180</wrap>we would enter from the third decanate. <wrap hide>49|00:10:44|180|00:10:50|180</wrap>Now the third decanate for Alan Leo is Jupiter and for Sepharial it's Venus. <wrap hide>50|00:10:51|420|00:11:02|200</wrap>So that is Jupiter-Venus for the first... well actually we enter from 20 to 30 degrees. This is the way it operates. <wrap hide>51|00:11:08|540|00:11:15|200</wrap>Okay, I've had to make a few changes here. I haven't reviewed this chart for quite a while, <wrap hide>52|00:11:15|340|00:11:23|900</wrap>but suffice it to say that the average individual enters the sign in what we normally call the third decanate. <wrap hide>53|00:11:23|900|00:11:35|980</wrap>And this is a chart to show that. The average individual on the wheel of form is entering under Mars, <wrap hide>54|00:11:37|360|00:11:48|120</wrap>as far as the third decanate rulership is concerned, and is proceeding towards the Sun in the second decanate, <wrap hide>55|00:11:48|120|00:11:57|780</wrap>and finally ends up with Jupiter or Venus. Sepharial says Venus as far as I can understand, and Alan Leo says Jupiter. <wrap hide>56|00:11:58|820|00:12:07|560</wrap>But what Master D.K. tells us is that the first decanate for the disciple is really ruled by Jupiter, <wrap hide>57|00:12:07|780|00:12:15|320</wrap>and he says that Alan Leo has the Venus in sight with respect to the first decanate, <wrap hide>58|00:12:15|320|00:12:21|900</wrap>but it's really, you know, it is Sepharial that certainly would indicate Venus. <wrap hide>59|00:12:23|240|00:12:30|240</wrap>Let's see if we see here. In the larger sense, yes. <wrap hide>60|00:12:31|240|00:12:39|640</wrap>Yeah, because Sepharial continues when he does the Taurus decanates to work with Mercury, the Moon, and Saturn, <wrap hide>61|00:12:39|640|00:12:44|740</wrap>and then he comes back in with Jupiter, so that is correct. That is correct. <wrap hide>62|00:12:45|720|00:12:52|860</wrap>And so Jupiter-Venus is ruling the first decanate for the disciple, the Sun the second decanate, <wrap hide>63|00:12:53|220|00:13:03|040</wrap>and Mars is ruling the final decanate, giving a climaxing battle, we are told, in the sign for the initiate. <wrap hide>64|00:13:03|040|00:13:10|380</wrap>As for the Alan Leo decanates, they are Mars for the first decanate, Sun for the second, and Jupiter for the third. <wrap hide>65|00:13:10|880|00:13:15|600</wrap>So we have some doubling up here, doubling up in the decanates. <wrap hide>66|00:13:17|840|00:13:28|220</wrap>Now let us take a look at some of the extra zodiacal constellations that are associated with the various decanates. <wrap hide>67|00:13:28|220|00:13:38|400</wrap>We have three constellations which are associated with Aries, and they are Cetus, the whale or the sea monster, <wrap hide>68|00:13:39|160|00:13:52|240</wrap>implying the engulfing of the soul, the little fish, which has gone forth into matter, and which is again seeking form. <wrap hide>69|00:13:52|240|00:14:04|160</wrap>So there is a tendency for the great subconscious forces to swallow or to engulf, and Jupiter can represent engulfment, <wrap hide>70|00:14:04|720|00:14:13|420</wrap>to engulf the consciousness. Then there is Cassiopeia that rules associated with the second decanate, <wrap hide>71|00:14:13|420|00:14:23|720</wrap>and that is the Queen, and matter is on the throne in these early days, and the sense of self-importance and the Ahamkara principle, <wrap hide>72|00:14:24|280|00:14:35|420</wrap>ruled by the Sun, is pre-eminent. So matter has not yet been dethroned; matter is enthroned, as a matter of fact. <wrap hide>73|00:14:35|420|00:14:48|520</wrap>And then in the final decanate, from 20 to 30 degrees, we have Perseus, the hero, the champion, who does save Andromeda, the soul. <wrap hide>74|00:14:50|540|00:15:01|120</wrap>Now Cetus, I think, correlates very well with Jupiter; Cassiopeia, the enthroned queen with the Sun; and Perseus, the hero under Mars. <wrap hide>75|00:15:01|120|00:15:08|260</wrap>The thing with the study of the decanates is that we are moving backward and forward simultaneously, <wrap hide>76|00:15:08|560|00:15:14|600</wrap>so in some cases it's difficult to assign a precise ruler to each decanate. <wrap hide>77|00:15:15|560|00:15:27|580</wrap>Master D.K. has his own assignments, and oftentimes they are at variance with the Sepharial method, which is Chaldean in origin, <wrap hide>78|00:15:27|580|00:15:33|600</wrap>and the Alan Leo method, which relates more to Indian astrology. <wrap hide>79|00:15:34|660|00:15:46|400</wrap>For instance, one takes the triplicities, let us say the fire triplicity, Aries, Leo, Sagittarius, and assigns in the following manner. <wrap hide>80|00:15:46|400|00:15:55|600</wrap>The first ten degrees of Aries are Aries sub-Aries, the next ten degrees from 10 to 20 are Aries sub-Leo, <wrap hide>81|00:15:55|680|00:16:03|420</wrap>we're taking the second fire sign of the triplicity and making it the sub-ruler, and then the third decanate from 20 to 30, <wrap hide>82|00:16:03|840|00:16:12|040</wrap>we're taking the third sign of the fire triplicity, Sagittarius, and making the rulership Aries sub-Sagittarius. <wrap hide>83|00:16:12|040|00:16:21|000</wrap>And accordingly, the rulers are Aries sub-Aries is Mars, because Mars is the ordinary ruler of Aries, <wrap hide>84|00:16:21|520|00:16:29|440</wrap>Aries sub-Leo is the Sun, the ordinary ruler of Leo, and Aries sub-Jupiter for Sagittarius, <wrap hide>85|00:16:29|720|00:16:36|960</wrap>because the Aries Sagittarius decanate has Jupiter as the ruler of sub-Sagittarius. <wrap hide>86|00:16:36|960|00:16:46|160</wrap>Now there really is something to be said for this system, regardless of the refinements that Master D.K. has added. <wrap hide>87|00:16:46|740|00:16:55|040</wrap>When you look at the form of individuals who are born in these signs and these decanates, <wrap hide>88|00:16:55|100|00:17:01|320</wrap>and I hope to get into some of the astro-radiological physiognomy and morphology, <wrap hide>89|00:17:01|320|00:17:12|700</wrap>we will see that there is a strong resemblance to these orthodox rulers, Mars, Sun, and Jupiter, <wrap hide>90|00:17:13|500|00:17:17|780</wrap>in the general form and bearing and expression of the individual. <wrap hide>91|00:17:18|980|00:17:26|660</wrap>That which D.K. assigns tends to be, I think, a little more subjective, maybe a lot more subjective, <wrap hide>92|00:17:26|660|00:17:34|680</wrap>and deal more with an esoteric factor rather than an exoteric formal factor, <wrap hide>93|00:17:34|720|00:17:38|940</wrap>which however does reflect an esoteric truth. <wrap hide>94|00:17:40|060|00:17:51|900</wrap>So the way we would have this is that on the wheel of consciousness we have Jupiter-Venus, Venus-Jupiter, <wrap hide>95|00:17:51|900|00:17:59|580</wrap>for the first ten degrees of the disciple who is moving in the counter-clockwise direction, the Sun, and then Mars. <wrap hide>96|00:18:00|440|00:18:08|120</wrap>On the reversing wheel we would have Mars, Sun, and Jupiter, and possibly Venus, <wrap hide>97|00:18:08|480|00:18:15|020</wrap>because in the usual Sepharial system Venus is the ruler of the third decanate, <wrap hide>98|00:18:15|180|00:18:19|440</wrap>which when reversed turns out to be the first decanate. <wrap hide>99|00:18:19|440|00:18:23|720</wrap>So some sort of Jupiter-Venus combination may be there. <wrap hide>100|00:18:23|780|00:18:26|540</wrap>There seems to be truth to all of these. <wrap hide>101|00:18:27|100|00:18:33|100</wrap>Sometimes D.K. points out that, "Okay look, Sepharial or Leo has made a definite mistake, <wrap hide>102|00:18:33|240|00:18:40|160</wrap>i.e. that the old Chaldean system or that the Hindu system, the system derived from India, <wrap hide>103|00:18:40|160|00:18:50|560</wrap>are incorrect in specific places," but usually he seems to imply that there is something to be said, <wrap hide>104|00:18:50|720|00:18:53|040</wrap>some value for all the systems. <wrap hide>105|00:18:53|760|00:19:00|960</wrap>Now I tried to create a six-fold chart here, and I'll do my best to find it. <wrap hide>106|00:19:01|500|00:19:03|500</wrap>This was done some long time ago. <wrap hide>107|00:19:03|620|00:19:08|980</wrap>The idea here is that we're moving toward the green and toward the blue. <wrap hide>108|00:19:08|980|00:19:10|300</wrap>I think you see that. <wrap hide>109|00:19:12|680|00:19:26|600</wrap>Here we have, at least archetypally, a physical type of manifestation in the first decanate of the wheel of form. <wrap hide>110|00:19:26|840|00:19:31|480</wrap>Now the wheel of form enters backwards, so you're really going from 30 to 20 degrees. <wrap hide>111|00:19:32|300|00:19:35|140</wrap>And Mars is the ruler. <wrap hide>112|00:19:36|820|00:19:43|260</wrap>Although you can make a case for Jupiter being present here as well and for the idea of engulfment in form. <wrap hide>113|00:19:45|020|00:19:52|980</wrap>The next decanate is associated particularly with the astral body and with a period of astral development. <wrap hide>114|00:19:54|060|00:19:55|620</wrap>And the Sun is the ruler. <wrap hide>115|00:19:56|520|00:20:01|060</wrap>Alan Leo says this, the Tibetan says this, and Sepharial says this. <wrap hide>116|00:20:01|060|00:20:07|520</wrap>Then we reach what is the third decanate from the perspective of the wheel of form, <wrap hide>117|00:20:07|740|00:20:10|860</wrap>but since we're going backwards it's really 0 to 10 degrees. <wrap hide>118|00:20:12|100|00:20:15|420</wrap>And from the Alan Leo perspective it's Mars, Sun, Jupiter. <wrap hide>119|00:20:15|660|00:20:19|300</wrap>From the Sepharial perspective it's Mars, Sun, Venus. <wrap hide>120|00:20:21|340|00:20:27|080</wrap>Then that should be connected with mental development. <wrap hide>121|00:20:27|080|00:20:35|460</wrap>I think what I will have to do, you know I've got quite a bit on the decanates and they would make a study in themselves. <wrap hide>122|00:20:35|760|00:20:43|920</wrap>So I will not be able to perhaps discuss the entire chart here, but at least give some indications. <wrap hide>123|00:20:46|700|00:20:54|200</wrap>This third decanate on the wheel of form is a time when the mind per se is emphasized. <wrap hide>124|00:20:54|820|00:21:00|560</wrap>Now I have an important caveat with respect to all of this. I'm speaking about an archetypal structure here. <wrap hide>125|00:21:01|540|00:21:09|580</wrap>The first decanate of discipleship has the Jupiter given by the Tibetan, <wrap hide>126|00:21:10|740|00:21:21|640</wrap>and Venus, which he seems to imply, we would have to reverse this direction. <wrap hide>127|00:21:21|640|00:21:28|380</wrap>Since Venus is operative at the third decanate on the wheel of form, you begin where you leave off, <wrap hide>128|00:21:29|680|00:21:34|380</wrap>rather the third decanate on the wheel of form, we begin with the first decanate on the wheel of consciousness. <wrap hide>129|00:21:34|560|00:21:39|140</wrap>These two are often equivalent and Venus, the solar angel, is found here. <wrap hide>130|00:21:39|400|00:21:45|180</wrap>What we're really looking at is a decanate correlated with the integration of the personality. <wrap hide>131|00:21:45|180|00:21:52|280</wrap>The next decanate, ruled by the Sun, the source of illumination, is to be associated archetypally with the soul, <wrap hide>132|00:21:53|920|00:22:02|240</wrap>and the final decanate is to be associated with the spirit aspect, with the monadic aspect. <wrap hide>133|00:22:02|880|00:22:11|780</wrap>And we have here a blue star. The green star tells us that we're on the personality path, <wrap hide>134|00:22:11|780|00:22:16|680</wrap>and the blue star tells us we're on the spiritual path. <wrap hide>135|00:22:17|480|00:22:27|160</wrap>Now, some astrologers have said that when the Sun is located—if a person is on the wheel of form, let us say, <wrap hide>136|00:22:27|820|00:22:35|560</wrap>and the Sun is located, let us say, in the first decanate—it's definitely, they're definitely passing through a stage <wrap hide>137|00:22:35|560|00:22:38|940</wrap>when they're dealing with the etheric physical vehicle, per se. <wrap hide>138|00:22:38|940|00:22:45|500</wrap>That they definitely have an astral emphasis on the wheel of form if their Sun is in the second decanate, <wrap hide>139|00:22:45|520|00:22:53|460</wrap>and they definitely have a mental emphasis if their Sun is in the third decanate of the wheel of form. <wrap hide>140|00:22:53|620|00:23:05|220</wrap>I would like to take exception to this and say that it is possible for different people who are at one of those stages of development— <wrap hide>141|00:23:05|220|00:23:10|920</wrap>let's say the Lemurian stage, there are very few on the planet at the moment, who are strictly etheric physical beings— <wrap hide>142|00:23:11|560|00:23:15|840</wrap>their Sun can be in any of the decanates of Aries, any of the three. <wrap hide>143|00:23:16|700|00:23:23|400</wrap>The majority of people are emotional, and I would say they can be born in any of the three decanates in Aries. <wrap hide>144|00:23:24|380|00:23:28|300</wrap>Fewer are mental, and again I would say they can be born in any of the decanates of Aries. <wrap hide>145|00:23:28|660|00:23:34|340</wrap>We will see how this works out on the wheel of consciousness here, which begins with Jupiter, Venus, <wrap hide>146|00:23:34|340|00:23:37|900</wrap>the Sun, and then moves to Mars, as the Tibetan describes. <wrap hide>147|00:23:40|440|00:23:51|680</wrap>And I would like to say that if you are born in the first decanate, it does not necessarily mean that you are struggling with issues of personality integration. <wrap hide>148|00:23:52|120|00:23:56|840</wrap>You could be a soul-conscious individual; you could even be a spirit-conscious individual. <wrap hide>149|00:23:57|460|00:24:02|840</wrap>If you are born in the second decanate and you are on the wheel of consciousness, which means you are a disciple, <wrap hide>150|00:24:03|840|00:24:13|000</wrap>or attending towards becoming an initiate, it does not necessarily mean that you are working with the soul energies. <wrap hide>151|00:24:14|220|00:24:20|280</wrap>A person who is a spirit-conscious person, or even someone who is working with personality issues, <wrap hide>152|00:24:20|460|00:24:26|100</wrap>and integrating the personality and moving forward in that way, trying to align personality with soul, <wrap hide>153|00:24:26|100|00:24:27|880</wrap>could still be born in the second decanate. <wrap hide>154|00:24:28|680|00:24:33|700</wrap>And I think it becomes most obvious when you look at the third decanate. <wrap hide>155|00:24:34|800|00:24:42|700</wrap>In the third decanate, supposedly you are dealing with monadic and spirit issues, and there are so few people who are really doing that. <wrap hide>156|00:24:43|360|00:24:51|660</wrap>We cannot say across the board that people who are born in the third decanate of Aries—i.e., from 20 degrees to 30 on the wheel of consciousness— <wrap hide>157|00:24:51|660|00:24:55|220</wrap>are necessarily dealing with spirit and monadic issues. <wrap hide>158|00:24:55|360|00:25:00|600</wrap>They could certainly be dealing with the alignment of the personality with the soul; they could be dealing with soul issues. <wrap hide>159|00:25:01|140|00:25:03|100</wrap>So I think we have to be very careful about that. <wrap hide>160|00:25:03|480|00:25:14|800</wrap>But archetypally, at least, there is a tendency for these six decanates to correlate with the different parts of the human constitution, <wrap hide>161|00:25:15|300|00:25:20|800</wrap>namely physical, astral, mental, personal, soul, and spirit. <wrap hide>162|00:25:20|800|00:25:24|500</wrap>That's an archetypal correlation, but it cannot be forced. <wrap hide>163|00:25:24|800|00:25:32|480</wrap>Now, in this chart I've spoken quite a bit about the physical, emotional, mental, personal stages. <wrap hide>164|00:25:33|400|00:25:39|880</wrap>And what I call a fourth stage, which begins with the reversal of the wheel, is an aspirational stage. <wrap hide>165|00:25:40|480|00:25:43|060</wrap>It's personal, and we are integrating under the soul. <wrap hide>166|00:25:44|500|00:25:50|200</wrap>The third decanate is not strictly mental; I would call it mental-personal. <wrap hide>167|00:25:50|200|00:25:52|760</wrap>The third decanate on the wheel of form. <wrap hide>168|00:25:53|580|00:25:55|660</wrap>And let's go up here, and I'll show you what I mean. <wrap hide>169|00:25:56|500|00:26:05|320</wrap>This third decanate on the wheel of form is mental-personal. <wrap hide>170|00:26:06|240|00:26:11|560</wrap>Because the mental unit and the personality are so closely allied, <wrap hide>171|00:26:11|740|00:26:18|720</wrap>so that when a person really begins to cultivate his lower mind, he is at once cultivating the personal side of his personality. <wrap hide>172|00:26:18|720|00:26:22|380</wrap>But there's also an aspirational side to the personality, <wrap hide>173|00:26:22|380|00:26:27|920</wrap>and there one is moving forward personally. <wrap hide>174|00:26:28|120|00:26:33|520</wrap>Instead of simply indulging the personality, one is aligning the personality with the soul. <wrap hide>175|00:26:34|400|00:26:38|740</wrap>So I've dealt with all this, but I don't want to get tedious about it. <wrap hide>176|00:26:39|340|00:26:45|400</wrap>I think we're most interested in the wheel of consciousness, <wrap hide>177|00:26:45|400|00:26:50|560</wrap>in which the zero to ten degrees is ruled, according to the Tibetan, by Jupiter, <wrap hide>178|00:26:50|860|00:26:55|160</wrap>with Alan Leo having an insight about Venus there. <wrap hide>179|00:26:57|040|00:27:01|400</wrap>And with the sun representing ten to twenty degrees, <wrap hide>180|00:27:02|000|00:27:09|020</wrap>and the final ten degrees represented by Mars. <wrap hide>181|00:27:09|700|00:27:13|460</wrap>So if we have the disciple, discipleship person, <wrap hide>182|00:27:14|580|00:27:21|620</wrap>we are ruled here in the first decanate by Jupiter. <wrap hide>183|00:27:21|840|00:27:24|360</wrap>Now there are three rulers of Aries, <wrap hide>184|00:27:24|860|00:27:30|020</wrap>and at the different phases of development over the long course of human evolution, <wrap hide>185|00:27:30|960|00:27:32|680</wrap>different planets will rule. <wrap hide>186|00:27:32|900|00:27:38|460</wrap>Mars is ruling in the physical stage, the emotional stage, and the mental stage, <wrap hide>187|00:27:38|540|00:27:40|440</wrap>which lasts a long, long time. <wrap hide>188|00:27:40|440|00:27:42|940</wrap>Many millions of years. <wrap hide>189|00:27:43|840|00:27:47|000</wrap>When we begin to reverse the wheel, <wrap hide>190|00:27:48|360|00:27:51|420</wrap>and begin to orient ourselves towards the higher of the pairs of opposites, <wrap hide>191|00:27:52|000|00:27:53|820</wrap>we are coming under the Mercury rulership, <wrap hide>192|00:27:54|140|00:27:58|460</wrap>and so <wrap quote>both</wrap> for the aspiring personality and for the person who is truly the disciple soul, <wrap hide>193|00:27:59|760|00:28:03|880</wrap>the soul incarnation, <wrap quote>as a disciple,</wrap> Mercury is the esoteric ruler, <wrap hide>194|00:28:04|400|00:28:06|860</wrap>and then when we're in the initiatic phase, <wrap hide>195|00:28:07|740|00:28:09|960</wrap>when we're coming under the influence of the monad, <wrap hide>196|00:28:10|180|00:28:14|140</wrap>then Uranus is the esoteric ruler, the hierarchical ruler. <wrap hide>197|00:28:14|280|00:28:15|580</wrap>So you see how I've done this. <wrap hide>198|00:28:16|360|00:28:19|060</wrap>I've taken the six phases. <wrap hide>199|00:28:19|320|00:28:20|740</wrap>You see, once I do this once, <wrap hide>200|00:28:21|980|00:28:25|900</wrap>we will see how it can work for all the signs. <wrap hide>201|00:28:26|340|00:28:28|600</wrap>I've taken the six phases of human development: <wrap hide>202|00:28:29|220|00:28:34|660</wrap>etheric physical, emotional, mental, mental personal—that's the third one— <wrap hide>203|00:28:34|660|00:28:40|760</wrap>then aspirational personal, the reorienting personality, <wrap hide>204|00:28:41|360|00:28:43|360</wrap>then the fifth phase, discipleship soul, <wrap hide>205|00:28:44|240|00:28:46|760</wrap>and then the sixth phase, initiatic monad, <wrap hide>206|00:28:47|360|00:28:51|800</wrap>and what I've done is I've used the following chart. <wrap hide>207|00:28:52|440|00:28:57|440</wrap>This chart is on page 332, and I've referred to it before. <wrap hide>208|00:29:00|020|00:29:00|900</wrap>And there it is. <wrap hide>209|00:29:01|040|00:29:03|400</wrap>The three phases of human development. <wrap hide>210|00:29:03|400|00:29:08|600</wrap>The undeveloped man, and I think we can consider him the personal man, <wrap hide>211|00:29:08|780|00:29:11|120</wrap>the man who's heading towards the development of personality. <wrap hide>212|00:29:12|000|00:29:14|020</wrap>Then the advanced man. <wrap hide>213|00:29:14|820|00:29:18|580</wrap>He is the integrating personality, tending towards the soul, <wrap hide>214|00:29:18|620|00:29:19|980</wrap>and then the disciple initiate. <wrap hide>215|00:29:20|340|00:29:25|160</wrap>This chart is not laid out exactly the way my chart is laid out, <wrap hide>216|00:29:25|160|00:29:28|140</wrap>because I developed six strict categories, <wrap hide>217|00:29:28|140|00:29:32|260</wrap>and I separate the discipleship category from the initiate category. <wrap hide>218|00:29:32|260|00:29:35|840</wrap>Here, disciple and initiate are put together, <wrap hide>219|00:29:35|840|00:29:41|280</wrap>and what the disciple begins to do in terms of recognition and work with the plan, <wrap hide>220|00:29:41|880|00:29:45|360</wrap>the initiate completely accomplishes and uses the will. <wrap hide>221|00:29:45|460|00:29:49|460</wrap>But this is the general paradigm that I have been using. <wrap hide>222|00:29:51|000|00:29:53|220</wrap>Okay, so if we get back to this, <wrap hide>223|00:29:54|780|00:29:59|600</wrap>let's just say that Jupiter is the ruler here in the first decanate, <wrap hide>224|00:29:59|640|00:30:00|960</wrap>and so is Venus. <wrap hide>225|00:30:00|960|00:30:05|720</wrap>So there is for the discipleship individual, <wrap hide>226|00:30:06|680|00:30:09|900</wrap>coming under Mercury in general, <wrap hide>227|00:30:10|800|00:30:14|080</wrap>where the divine ideas are touched, <wrap hide>228|00:30:14|560|00:30:16|940</wrap>and the intuition is beginning to register, <wrap hide>229|00:30:17|500|00:30:22|400</wrap>and the new ideas which must descend into human life are beginning to register. <wrap hide>230|00:30:22|580|00:30:26|000</wrap>We have under Jupiter a growing sense of the all-embracing one life, <wrap hide>231|00:30:26|020|00:30:29|520</wrap>because we know how inclusive Jupiter can be, <wrap hide>232|00:30:29|520|00:30:32|480</wrap>and it always brings things together and embraces the whole. <wrap hide>233|00:30:33|620|00:30:35|780</wrap>Now we come next. <wrap hide>234|00:30:38|960|00:30:42|820</wrap>Okay, so you know, and the sea monster is found here, <wrap hide>235|00:30:42|920|00:30:44|120</wrap>but in this case, <wrap hide>236|00:30:46|160|00:30:51|720</wrap>the sea monster is not swallowing the consciousness of the soul—quite otherwise. <wrap hide>237|00:30:52|160|00:30:56|760</wrap>The consciousness is embracing all of the factors, <wrap hide>238|00:30:56|760|00:30:59|540</wrap>even the lower factors which Cetus represents. <wrap hide>239|00:31:00|580|00:31:08|600</wrap>Cetus is in this way the soul capable of devouring all levels of consciousness <wrap hide>240|00:31:08|600|00:31:10|980</wrap>and including it within itself. <wrap hide>241|00:31:11|240|00:31:16|540</wrap>We can reverse even such a symbol as the Cetus, the sea monster. <wrap hide>242|00:31:16|700|00:31:18|260</wrap>It doesn't mean only one thing, <wrap hide>243|00:31:18|340|00:31:23|540</wrap>because many high individuals can be born in that first decanate. <wrap hide>244|00:31:23|540|00:31:27|480</wrap>It doesn't mean they're all subject to the lower aspect of the sea monster. <wrap hide>245|00:31:28|160|00:31:29|860</wrap>By the way, I want to say, <wrap hide>246|00:31:30|800|00:31:34|740</wrap>with respect to these constellations, <wrap hide>247|00:31:34|920|00:31:37|780</wrap>that all of them apply to every Aries individual. <wrap hide>248|00:31:38|760|00:31:41|240</wrap>Some of us, in working with esoteric astrology, <wrap hide>249|00:31:41|400|00:31:46|880</wrap>have attempted to take three constellations and assign them to the decanates. <wrap hide>250|00:31:47|980|00:31:51|080</wrap>Well, that is a reasonable thing to do, <wrap hide>251|00:31:51|080|00:31:54|400</wrap>but we should not be too cut and dried and too exclusive. <wrap hide>252|00:31:55|280|00:31:57|720</wrap>Every Aries individual has the sea monster, <wrap hide>253|00:31:58|000|00:32:00|660</wrap>the enthronement of matter, <wrap hide>254|00:32:00|880|00:32:03|840</wrap>and the champion or hero in him. <wrap hide>255|00:32:04|520|00:32:07|780</wrap>Although there is a tendency when you look at the rulers <wrap hide>256|00:32:08|380|00:32:14|540</wrap>to want to assign one of the constellations to each one of the decanates, <wrap hide>257|00:32:14|600|00:32:16|860</wrap>and perhaps that can be somewhat successfully done, <wrap hide>258|00:32:16|860|00:32:20|700</wrap>but in a larger sense we should bear in mind <wrap hide>259|00:32:20|700|00:32:29|480</wrap>that each of these three extra-zodiacal constellations <wrap hide>260|00:32:32|700|00:32:35|820</wrap>applies to every Aries individual, <wrap hide>261|00:32:36|520|00:32:38|440</wrap>and so forth for the other signs as well. <wrap hide>262|00:32:38|860|00:32:41|480</wrap>A lot of work on this has been done by Nicholas Milen, <wrap hide>263|00:32:41|480|00:32:48|140</wrap>who made various assignments of the extra-zodiacal constellations <wrap hide>264|00:32:48|140|00:32:51|240</wrap>to the three decanates, <wrap hide>265|00:32:51|360|00:32:55|180</wrap>and Stephen Pugh has done a lot of excellent work on the decanates. <wrap hide>266|00:32:55|320|00:32:57|480</wrap>We all have our points of agreement and disagreement, <wrap hide>267|00:32:57|640|00:33:00|800</wrap>and I'll just try to justify mine. <wrap hide>268|00:33:02|380|00:33:04|120</wrap>But you know, you'll have to get into it yourself. <wrap hide>269|00:33:04|540|00:33:09|420</wrap>Now, for the disciple or the soul under Aries, <wrap hide>270|00:33:10|360|00:33:15|360</wrap>you know, in general we're having unselfish directed personality effort, <wrap hide>271|00:33:15|800|00:33:20|400</wrap>which is aiming at the recognition and work with the divine plan <wrap hide>272|00:33:20|400|00:33:22|260</wrap>and cultivating the will. <wrap hide>273|00:33:22|760|00:33:26|460</wrap>You saw how here we had for the disciple initiate <wrap hide>274|00:33:28|600|00:33:31|840</wrap>recognition and work with the plan and the will. <wrap hide>275|00:33:32|000|00:33:35|380</wrap>Well, the disciple is cultivating that, <wrap hide>276|00:33:35|460|00:33:37|460</wrap>is coming increasingly under soul consciousness. <wrap hide>277|00:33:37|460|00:33:45|340</wrap>In the second decanate, there is that sun identification, <wrap hide>278|00:33:46|240|00:33:49|770</wrap>so I say here that the individual has the potential of identifying <wrap hide>279|00:33:50|080|00:33:52|400</wrap>as the soul-infusing personality. <wrap hide>280|00:33:53|260|00:33:58|920</wrap>There is increasingly fuller revelation of the soul on its own plane, <wrap hide>281|00:33:59|440|00:34:02|520</wrap>which fits with the illuminative power of the sun. <wrap hide>282|00:34:03|220|00:34:08|560</wrap>Finally, we enter the third decanate where a battle is supposed to occur, <wrap hide>283|00:34:08|900|00:34:11|140</wrap>both for the disciple and the initiate, <wrap hide>284|00:34:11|300|00:34:13|340</wrap>and probably also for the aspiring personality. <wrap hide>285|00:34:16|320|00:34:20|140</wrap>This is seen by me as a mentally focused battle <wrap hide>286|00:34:20|140|00:34:22|500</wrap>to be rid of glamour and illusion. <wrap hide>287|00:34:22|680|00:34:25|580</wrap>A person is becoming, as it were, Perseus. <wrap hide>288|00:34:26|700|00:34:30|560</wrap>Here, the person is becoming Cassiopeia, <wrap hide>289|00:34:30|560|00:34:34|020</wrap>but it is not just matter that is enthroned. <wrap hide>290|00:34:34|720|00:34:37|320</wrap>It is the sense of soul consciousness, <wrap hide>291|00:34:37|700|00:34:40|680</wrap>which is increasingly enthroned. <wrap hide>292|00:34:43|420|00:34:46|280</wrap>And in the third decanate, then, the Perseus decanate, <wrap hide>293|00:34:46|680|00:34:49|520</wrap>there is a battle upon the plane of mind <wrap hide>294|00:34:49|520|00:34:54|780</wrap>to be rid of glamour and illusion so that the soul can shine forth. <wrap hide>295|00:34:55|900|00:34:58|100</wrap>Over here, for the aspiring personality, <wrap hide>296|00:34:58|100|00:35:02|660</wrap>a little in the earlier stages, I have some other things stated, <wrap hide>297|00:35:02|940|00:35:08|300</wrap>and I'll have to decide whether I go through all of this, <wrap hide>298|00:35:08|420|00:35:12|840</wrap>because technically we're supposed to be discussing what the Tibetan has said, <wrap hide>299|00:35:13|020|00:35:17|380</wrap>and I know some of this is my own, based upon what he has said. <wrap hide>300|00:35:17|820|00:35:21|040</wrap>Then we get into the initiatic or monadic stage, <wrap hide>301|00:35:22|060|00:35:24|580</wrap>and we're definitely under Uranus at this point, <wrap hide>302|00:35:24|620|00:35:27|540</wrap>and we're treading some of the final burning grounds. <wrap hide>303|00:35:28|200|00:35:31|080</wrap>We're, you know, getting ready for the third initiation here, <wrap hide>304|00:35:31|080|00:35:33|560</wrap>or have passed it, getting ready for the fourth, <wrap hide>305|00:35:33|680|00:35:37|120</wrap>or are beyond it and Uranus ruling the final burning ground. <wrap hide>306|00:35:37|720|00:35:43|860</wrap>We'll give us, in general, and for all Aries people born at this time, <wrap hide>307|00:35:44|520|00:35:48|720</wrap>selfless directed effort of the soul-infused personality, <wrap hide>308|00:35:49|100|00:35:52|880</wrap>which has achieved integration and worked with the plan. <wrap hide>309|00:35:53|680|00:35:59|800</wrap>So we are definitely here receiving archetypal ideas under Uranus, <wrap hide>310|00:35:59|920|00:36:03|960</wrap>not just good ideas, not just ideas coming through under Mercury, <wrap hide>311|00:36:04|100|00:36:08|040</wrap>but we're receiving the real thing from the world of being. <wrap hide>312|00:36:08|800|00:36:14|200</wrap>We've given up ourselves, and our will is very much identified <wrap hide>313|00:36:14|200|00:36:19|200</wrap>with the divine will and plan and as much of the purpose as we can bring through. <wrap hide>314|00:36:19|200|00:36:23|980</wrap>So Uranus and archetypal purpose are very closely related. <wrap hide>315|00:36:24|960|00:36:30|220</wrap>So here in the first decanate, which is ruled by Jupiter-Venus, <wrap hide>316|00:36:30|600|00:36:35|200</wrap>the Venus part, the soul is shining forth, <wrap hide>317|00:36:35|460|00:36:40|940</wrap>and the Jupiter part reflecting the positive part of Cetus, <wrap hide>318|00:36:41|240|00:36:43|800</wrap>we are engulfed by the One Life, <wrap hide>319|00:36:43|800|00:36:50|700</wrap>and we are in this vast, unitive, first triadal and then monadic consciousness. <wrap hide>320|00:36:51|960|00:36:55|880</wrap>So I will say, yes, first triadal and then monadic. <wrap hide>321|00:36:57|380|00:37:02|660</wrap>When we're in the Sun decanate, we're identified as the soul-infused personality <wrap hide>322|00:37:02|660|00:37:05|940</wrap>as an expression of the triad or spirit, <wrap hide>323|00:37:06|400|00:37:08|720</wrap>and there is increasing revelation of the monad. <wrap hide>324|00:37:08|820|00:37:11|840</wrap>The monad can stand for the Sun, the triad can stand for the Sun, <wrap hide>325|00:37:11|840|00:37:17|740</wrap>the higher ego can stand for the Sun, so we are in a strong fullness of soul consciousness. <wrap hide>326|00:37:18|420|00:37:24|520</wrap>In none of this are we yet speaking of taking the fourth degree. <wrap hide>327|00:37:24|720|00:37:26|920</wrap>We're holding ourselves below the fourth degree. <wrap hide>328|00:37:27|040|00:37:32|160</wrap>I think that's wise because we cannot speculate too much about what might occur beyond that point. <wrap hide>329|00:37:32|860|00:37:38|440</wrap>And finally, in the Perseus decanate, I call it that, even though, you know, <wrap hide>330|00:37:38|440|00:37:45|160</wrap>as I said, all these meanings of Cetus, Cassiopeia and Perseus apply to every area and every individual, <wrap hide>331|00:37:45|320|00:37:49|500</wrap>but in the end, Mars is the final, indicating the final battle, <wrap hide>332|00:37:50|080|00:37:53|360</wrap>and we have the victory in battle with illusion. <wrap hide>333|00:37:53|680|00:37:58|040</wrap>The jungle of illusion, the jungle of experience dissolves in flames, <wrap hide>334|00:37:58|220|00:38:04|160</wrap>even that is happening under Mercury, and the path stands free. <wrap hide>335|00:38:05|300|00:38:07|700</wrap>Let's see what that exact quote is. <wrap hide>336|00:38:07|700|00:38:10|060</wrap>I want to... <wrap hide>337|00:38:10|060|00:38:17|240</wrap>The jungles of experience, yes, jungles, j-u-n-g-l-e-s, jungles, there's only one. <wrap hide>338|00:38:18|140|00:38:21|940</wrap>The jungles of experience are set on fire and dissolve in flames, <wrap hide>339|00:38:22|080|00:38:26|060</wrap>and then the path stands clear and unobstructed vision is achieved. <wrap hide>340|00:38:26|180|00:38:29|440</wrap>That's the full quotation, and it's a very beautiful one. <wrap hide>341|00:38:29|560|00:38:33|540</wrap>The jungles of experience are set on fire and dissolve in flames, <wrap hide>342|00:38:33|540|00:38:37|600</wrap>and then the path stands clear and unobstructed vision is achieved. <wrap hide>343|00:38:38|140|00:38:42|060</wrap>So there is a final conquest with illusion. <wrap hide>344|00:38:42|240|00:38:45|300</wrap>There is a battle with the dweller going on here, <wrap hide>345|00:38:45|400|00:38:50|300</wrap>and all the illusory aspects of the dweller are contended with. <wrap hide>346|00:38:51|180|00:38:53|620</wrap>Perhaps there is not a complete victory, <wrap hide>347|00:38:53|700|00:38:59|060</wrap>although I think in any sign a person can achieve very close to that complete victory. <wrap hide>348|00:38:59|780|00:39:02|960</wrap>Well, you know, I've kind of plunged into this a bit. <wrap hide>349|00:39:03|540|00:39:05|460</wrap>I have a lot here. <wrap hide>350|00:39:07|060|00:39:12|960</wrap>But as I say, I think we're strictly, we're most interested in the stage <wrap hide>351|00:39:12|960|00:39:18|180</wrap>on the reversed wheel, the counterclockwise wheel, the wheel of consciousness, <wrap hide>352|00:39:18|600|00:39:22|160</wrap>which will be occurring under the esoteric and hierarchical rulers, <wrap hide>353|00:39:22|420|00:39:24|140</wrap>so therefore in Aries under Mercury, <wrap hide>354|00:39:25|380|00:39:29|120</wrap>for two stages, which I call aspirational personal, <wrap hide>355|00:39:30|640|00:39:33|680</wrap>integrating under the soul, and disciplic soul, <wrap hide>356|00:39:34|620|00:39:37|200</wrap>and hierarchical for the initiate and the monad. <wrap hide>357|00:39:37|900|00:39:41|880</wrap>I didn't really say much about the person who is integrating the personality <wrap hide>358|00:39:41|880|00:39:45|160</wrap>and having it, seeking for it to respond to the soul, <wrap hide>359|00:39:45|240|00:39:47|540</wrap>but I will say a little, because I think I should. <wrap hide>360|00:39:48|360|00:39:54|920</wrap>We must recognize under Jupiter, for zero to ten degrees, <wrap hide>361|00:39:55|120|00:39:58|900</wrap>we have to recognize the way the form devours the consciousness, <wrap hide>362|00:39:59|080|00:40:03|300</wrap>and we must seek to expand our consciousness and grow beyond it <wrap hide>363|00:40:03|300|00:40:06|880</wrap>by expanding the soul awareness. <wrap hide>364|00:40:07|120|00:40:10|600</wrap>Now, either Jupiter or Venus would suit here. <wrap hide>365|00:40:11|180|00:40:14|560</wrap>Remember that the way we have it, according to the Tibetan, <wrap hide>366|00:40:15|740|00:40:24|140</wrap>that Jupiter and Venus are the rulers of the first decanate on the wheel of consciousness, <wrap hide>367|00:40:24|680|00:40:25|940</wrap>Sun the second, and Mars the third. <wrap hide>368|00:40:26|020|00:40:33|860</wrap>That's how the Tibetan gives it, and he suggests that Alan Leo has given Venus as the ruler, <wrap hide>369|00:40:34|460|00:40:39|800</wrap>but what I find is that it's Sepharial that has done that. <wrap hide>370|00:40:40|040|00:40:43|700</wrap>So, I don't know, there's some kind of reversal going on there. <wrap hide>371|00:40:43|700|00:40:45|400</wrap>But either one will do. <wrap hide>372|00:40:45|960|00:40:49|300</wrap>Venus and Jupiter both relate to the causal body. <wrap hide>373|00:40:50|060|00:40:55|740</wrap>Venus is relating to the growing quality within the causal body, <wrap hide>374|00:40:57|180|00:41:02|420</wrap>and its beauty, and its loving magnetism, <wrap hide>375|00:41:02|540|00:41:07|180</wrap>and Jupiter is relating in general to the expansion of the causal consciousness. <wrap hide>376|00:41:08|580|00:41:12|580</wrap>The Sun is related to illumination and to enlightenment in general, <wrap hide>377|00:41:12|580|00:41:20|820</wrap>and Mars, as we know, to conflict, and he tells us the initiate climaxes his work within any sign with a battle. <wrap hide>378|00:41:22|660|00:41:29|520</wrap>So, OK, going on here, yes, I have to go back and forth. <wrap hide>379|00:41:30|060|00:41:34|440</wrap>So, in the aspirational or higher personal or integrating under the soul stage, <wrap hide>380|00:41:34|540|00:41:39|160</wrap>we do have Mercury, and we have what the Tibetan calls directed personality effort, <wrap hide>381|00:41:39|320|00:41:41|400</wrap>but it's towards being unselfish. <wrap hide>382|00:41:41|400|00:41:44|120</wrap>We have to try to become the unselfish personality, <wrap hide>383|00:41:44|140|00:41:47|360</wrap>and it's so easy for Aries people to be self-centered <wrap hide>384|00:41:47|360|00:41:52|040</wrap>and have their eyes strictly upon their own activities and energies. <wrap hide>385|00:41:52|600|00:41:58|200</wrap>So, in the Jupiter-Venus decanate, we are recognizing how the form usually devours consciousness. <wrap hide>386|00:41:58|380|00:42:00|620</wrap>We want to grow beyond it, and we want the soul to shine. <wrap hide>387|00:42:01|400|00:42:05|960</wrap>When we're in the Sun decanate, which we have been associating with Cassiopeia, <wrap hide>388|00:42:06|500|00:42:09|660</wrap>we are identified here as consciously as an aspirant, <wrap hide>389|00:42:09|660|00:42:15|340</wrap>and we're having the higher self, which is also a Sun, revealed. <wrap hide>390|00:42:16|340|00:42:19|200</wrap>And we are striving towards the higher self. <wrap hide>391|00:42:19|360|00:42:25|920</wrap>We know how much striving power is found in Aries. <wrap hide>392|00:42:26|580|00:42:33|820</wrap>Finally, Mars is the ruler for those born in the last 20 to 30 degrees, <wrap hide>393|00:42:34|080|00:42:38|200</wrap>and we have an aspirational fighting to be free of illusion. <wrap hide>394|00:42:38|200|00:42:49|100</wrap>We aspire, we seek to battle our illusions, sometimes not possessed of our full mental capacities, <wrap hide>395|00:42:49|520|00:42:53|380</wrap>which are much stronger for the disciples. <wrap hide>396|00:42:53|500|00:43:01|020</wrap>So, I think you get the idea here, and you know, since you do have this on your screen, <wrap hide>397|00:43:01|660|00:43:06|480</wrap>you can freeze your screen at any time and simply study what I've said, <wrap hide>398|00:43:06|480|00:43:09|920</wrap>which is certainly not the complete story by any means. <wrap hide>399|00:43:09|980|00:43:15|300</wrap>You can study what I've said about the first, second and third decanate on the wheel of consciousness. <wrap hide>400|00:43:16|060|00:43:20|180</wrap>And you know, just to go up a little bit, if you want to freeze the screen here, <wrap hide>401|00:43:21|260|00:43:29|100</wrap>you can study what I've said about the Lemurian, Atlantean and Aryan, early Aryan stages of consciousness, <wrap hide>402|00:43:29|100|00:43:39|060</wrap>and how the different constellations and planets working in a more personal, elemental manner, <wrap hide>403|00:43:39|660|00:43:47|640</wrap>can affect the individual. Just freeze your screen and study it, or print it or copy it, you know, something of that nature. <wrap hide>404|00:43:48|920|00:43:53|480</wrap>Okay, well this has been sort of my unexpected plunge into this decanate work, <wrap hide>405|00:43:53|480|00:44:01|360</wrap>and the reason it was unexpected, in a way, D.K. began talking about the decanates a little bit earlier in Aries, <wrap hide>406|00:44:01|480|00:44:06|240</wrap>than he does in the other signs, where he seems to leave it towards the end. <wrap hide>407|00:44:07|400|00:44:14|280</wrap>And for that reason I was taken a little by surprise, so I had to excuse a few of the glitches in the beginning of the discussion. <wrap hide>408|00:44:15|500|00:44:19|640</wrap>I wanted to take out the material that I have on the decanates. <wrap hide>409|00:44:19|640|00:44:25|440</wrap>Some of us have thought about this long and hard, maybe not as long and hard as some have thought about it, <wrap hide>410|00:44:26|120|00:44:31|940</wrap>but it is an important sub-qualifier, this question of the decanates. <wrap hide>411|00:44:32|620|00:44:39|240</wrap>We all may know, let's say we're born in Aries, or with the Sun in Aries, or under Aries, with Aries rising, <wrap hide>412|00:44:39|360|00:44:43|460</wrap>but what section of Aries are we born in? <wrap hide>413|00:44:44|380|00:44:53|660</wrap>And there's even a way to make day faces and night faces of each one of the decanates. <wrap hide>414|00:44:54|640|00:45:01|860</wrap>So on the wheel, which is going counterclockwise, the first five degrees would be the day face, <wrap hide>415|00:45:02|060|00:45:04|420</wrap>and the second five degrees would be the night face. <wrap hide>416|00:45:04|880|00:45:12|120</wrap>I need to study a little bit more about that, but it seems that one is more expressive and one is more internal, or introverted, <wrap hide>417|00:45:12|120|00:45:18|080</wrap>and thus it goes from the second decanate from twenty to twenty-five, the day face from twenty-five to thirty, the night face. <wrap hide>418|00:45:19|040|00:45:23|800</wrap>And similarly for the third decanate from, oh, no excuse me, I made a mistake there. <wrap hide>419|00:45:24|040|00:45:29|860</wrap>From ten to fifteen in the second decanate is the day face, and fifteen to twenty the night face. <wrap hide>420|00:45:30|080|00:45:37|440</wrap>Then in the third decanate from twenty to twenty-five is the day face, and then from twenty-five to thirty the night face. <wrap hide>421|00:45:37|440|00:45:42|180</wrap>So much experiment needs to be done there as well as work with the <wrap hide>422|00:45:42|180|00:45:51|360</wrap>Dvadesamshas or D-W-A-D-S, whereby we divide the zodiac of 12 into the 30 <wrap hide>423|00:45:51|360|00:45:56|060</wrap>degrees of any sign and get two and a half degree sections, one two and a half <wrap hide>424|00:45:56|060|00:46:02|140</wrap>degree sections for every zodiacal increment of the sign. So 0 to two and a <wrap hide>425|00:46:02|140|00:46:09|320</wrap>half degrees is Aries Aries, two and a half degrees to five is Aries Taurus. I'm <wrap hide>426|00:46:09|320|00:46:12|560</wrap>not going to go... you know, you get the idea, right? Five degrees to seven and a half <wrap hide>427|00:46:12|560|00:46:18|480</wrap>degrees is Aries Gemini and so forth. So that is also a sub-qualifier and you <wrap hide>428|00:46:18|480|00:46:22|440</wrap>know it can begin to zero in on the specific type of energy which has built <wrap hide>429|00:46:22|440|00:46:27|580</wrap>the form of any Aries individual and so it goes through the other signs. Always <wrap hide>430|00:46:27|580|00:46:32|120</wrap>beginning with the sign itself... well there's... there's different ways of doing <wrap hide>431|00:46:32|120|00:46:36|940</wrap>it, for instance, if you begin with Taurus from 0 to two and a half degrees, <wrap hide>432|00:46:36|940|00:46:42|280</wrap>would be Taurus Taurus, and from two and a half degrees to five would be Taurus <wrap hide>433|00:46:42|280|00:46:46|880</wrap>Gemini, and eventually you get around at the very last decanate to Taurus sub <wrap hide>434|00:46:46|880|00:46:58|320</wrap>Aries. But some people always begin with Aries, and that would be another way of <wrap hide>435|00:46:58|320|00:47:05|000</wrap>operating. We have to test that out, of course. The final method of <wrap hide>436|00:47:05|000|00:47:12|160</wrap>refining and discriminating very minute differences between individuals would be <wrap hide>437|00:47:12|160|00:47:16|300</wrap>through a study of the degrees themselves, because each one of the 360 <wrap hide>438|00:47:16|300|00:47:21|560</wrap>degrees, at least according to the ancient Chaldean knowledge, would have <wrap hide>439|00:47:21|560|00:47:28|600</wrap>its own specific quality. And then each degree can be approached numerologically, <wrap hide>440|00:47:29|280|00:47:33|700</wrap>so there are a number of the different types of degrees in the zodiac which add <wrap hide>441|00:47:33|700|00:47:38|060</wrap>up to a one or to a two or to a three, and they all would have something in <wrap hide>442|00:47:38|060|00:47:43|300</wrap>common. So this is a more mathematical approach to discriminating the fine <wrap hide>443|00:47:43|300|00:47:48|640</wrap>points of identity. OK, but I hope I haven't, you know, been too confusing here. <wrap hide>444|00:47:49|320|00:47:59|280</wrap>I think I finally got into the subject, and here you can have a snapshot, if you <wrap hide>445|00:47:59|280|00:48:07|620</wrap>will, of this decanate chart where we see the extra zodiacal constellations: Aries <wrap hide>446|00:48:07|620|00:48:16|420</wrap>Aries sub Leo and orange Aries sub Sagittarius in this rich blue color. Then we have <wrap hide>447|00:48:16|420|00:48:21|580</wrap>Cassiopeia, Perseus—we have the names of these constellations and what <wrap quote>they are</wrap>— <wrap hide>448|00:48:21|580|00:48:28|220</wrap>and then we have the wheel of consciousness and then the wheel of <wrap hide>449|00:48:28|220|00:48:35|860</wrap>form as we reverse the decanate order on the wheel of consciousness. Here are some <wrap hide>450|00:48:35|860|00:48:42|100</wrap>of the things that Nicholas Nelenn has said. He is agreeing in general here, and <wrap hide>451|00:48:42|100|00:48:46|760</wrap>here are the Alan Leo decanates, and here are the Sepharial decanates. I really don't <wrap hide>452|00:48:46|760|00:48:54|400</wrap>know why there has been that reversal. I haven't ever read Alan Leo speaking <wrap hide>453|00:48:54|400|00:49:02|960</wrap>about Venus as the ruler of one of the decanates, but I'm certainly willing to <wrap hide>454|00:49:02|960|00:49:06|800</wrap>learn—certainly willing to learn. I don't have the book immediately at my <wrap hide>455|00:49:06|800|00:49:16|220</wrap>disposal. Maybe it is in his esoteric astrology book. I'm not sure, but let's <wrap hide>456|00:49:16|220|00:49:20|820</wrap>read one more time what the Tibetan has said, because he is the authority here. <wrap hide>457|00:49:21|500|00:49:25|360</wrap>The decanates can be dealt with in two ways according to the direction in which <wrap hide>458|00:49:25|360|00:49:28|520</wrap>a man is traveling upon the wheel and therefore entering the science, speaking <wrap hide>459|00:49:28|520|00:49:35|560</wrap>and symbols. In other words, entering from 30 to 20 as an average individual <wrap hide>460|00:49:36|540|00:49:42|220</wrap>and going apparently backwards in the clockwise manner, or entering from 0 to <wrap hide>461|00:49:42|220|00:49:47|600</wrap>10 when on the counterclockwise wheel and going on the wheel of consciousness. <wrap hide>462|00:49:47|780|00:49:50|960</wrap>If he enters Aries when on the common cross, he will come into the influence of <wrap hide>463|00:49:50|960|00:50:01|480</wrap>the Mars, the Sun, and Jupiter according to Sepharial. Now, you know, here is the <wrap hide>464|00:50:01|480|00:50:08|140</wrap>problem: you know, Sepharial is obviously not counting the decanates <wrap hide>465|00:50:08|140|00:50:15|560</wrap>backwards. He's counting the decanates in strict order. He is only thinking of <wrap hide>466|00:50:15|560|00:50:20|320</wrap>every sign as progressing from 0 to 30 degrees and not from 30 degrees to 0 <wrap hide>467|00:50:20|320|00:50:32|200</wrap>degrees. So then, do we put Mars in the 0 to 10 degrees and Jupiter or Venus in <wrap hide>468|00:50:32|200|00:50:38|060</wrap>the 20 to 30 degrees, or do we do as the Tibetan suggests: take the early ruler, <wrap hide>469|00:50:39|040|00:50:45|640</wrap>the first ruler, and assign it to the 20 to 30 degrees section, and the last ruler <wrap hide>470|00:50:45|640|00:50:53|240</wrap>on the wheel of form—assign that to the 0 to 10 degrees section? So there are <wrap hide>471|00:50:53|240|00:51:01|900</wrap>some ambiguities here, and this has to be worked out. The red Venus is my own <wrap hide>472|00:51:01|900|00:51:06|780</wrap>there because of the way Sepharial usually proceeds. This means conflict, <wrap hide>473|00:51:06|780|00:51:11|960</wrap>revelation, and successful satisfaction of desire and ambition as the eons pass <wrap hide>474|00:51:11|960|00:51:19|240</wrap>away, and that, you know, that makes perfect sense. We understand why D.K. <wrap hide>475|00:51:20|500|00:51:24|820</wrap>assigns these qualities to these planets. When he reorients himself and mounts the <wrap hide>476|00:51:24|820|00:51:33|140</wrap>fixed cross, he comes under the influence—whoops—he comes under the <wrap hide>477|00:51:33|140|00:51:39|140</wrap>influence of Jupiter, the Sun, and Mars. Now that's in the ordinary— <wrap hide>478|00:51:40|080|00:51:45|880</wrap>that's in the reversed wheel progression on the wheel of consciousness. Now it's a <wrap hide>479|00:51:45|880|00:51:51|720</wrap>little strange because, you know, normally you would think that Mars would <wrap hide>480|00:51:51|720|00:51:56|340</wrap>be the ruler of the first decanate, which is sub Aries, and Jupiter the ruler of the <wrap hide>481|00:51:56|340|00:52:02|860</wrap>third decanate, which is sub Sagittarius. But the Tibetan changes this, so he <wrap hide>482|00:52:02|860|00:52:06|600</wrap>really puts Jupiter in the first decanate. He comes under the influence of <wrap hide>483|00:52:06|600|00:52:11|560</wrap>Jupiter, the Sun, and Mars, for the initiate and the disciple culminates his career <wrap hide>484|00:52:11|560|00:52:16|560</wrap>in any of the signs with a final and dominant struggle in a struggle to <wrap hide>485|00:52:16|560|00:52:23|400</wrap>dominate lower forces and fight. Now, here is the unusual statement: I would hear <wrap hide>486|00:52:23|400|00:52:26|840</wrap>remarked that Alan Leo had a glimpse of the inner significance of the decanates <wrap hide>487|00:52:26|840|00:52:31|860</wrap>when he assigned Mars, the Sun, and Venus to the three decanates. Well, maybe he did, <wrap hide>488|00:52:31|860|00:52:37|520</wrap>and I'm no one to doubt the Tibetan, but I remember it otherwise, and I know that <wrap hide>489|00:52:37|520|00:52:43|560</wrap>Sepharial would be working with Venus in the third decanate because he always <wrap hide>490|00:52:43|560|00:52:50|840</wrap>proceeds inward towards the geocentric Earth according to the length of the <wrap hide>491|00:52:50|840|00:52:56|740</wrap>period of the planet involved, including the Sun. So the way that Sepharial <wrap hide>492|00:52:56|740|00:53:03|260</wrap>proceeds is outward, starting with the outermost—none of the trans-Saturnian <wrap hide>493|00:53:03|260|00:53:07|000</wrap>planets. He starts with Saturn, then he goes to Jupiter because it's a smaller <wrap hide>494|00:53:07|000|00:53:12|340</wrap>orbit and takes less time, then he goes to Mars—still smaller orbit and less <wrap hide>495|00:53:12|340|00:53:17|960</wrap>time—then he goes to the Sun, which geocentrically has a period of one year, <wrap hide>496|00:53:17|960|00:53:22|960</wrap>whereas Mars has a period of two years from the geocentric perspective. Then <wrap hide>497|00:53:22|960|00:53:33|460</wrap>from Mars, he skips the Earth and goes to Venus, then he goes to Mercury, <wrap hide>498|00:53:33|460|00:53:40|320</wrap>then he goes to the Moon, and that is in order of the orbital periods. So when <wrap hide>499|00:53:40|320|00:53:43|880</wrap>we're looking—you know, don't want to beat a dead horse here, but I tend to do <wrap hide>500|00:53:43|880|00:53:53|980</wrap>so—when he is offering these decanates, Mars would be a longer orbit <wrap hide>501|00:53:53|980|00:54:00|260</wrap>than the Sun and Venus—not Jupiter would be the longer orbit, or would be the <wrap hide>502|00:54:00|260|00:54:05|320</wrap>shorter orbit. So Mars is longer than the Sun, the Sun is longer than Venus, but the <wrap hide>503|00:54:05|320|00:54:08|560</wrap>Sun's orbit from the geocentric perspective is not longer than that of <wrap hide>504|00:54:08|560|00:54:13|460</wrap>Jupiter, and that's what the Tibetan says he has chosen, whereas I do remember that <wrap hide>505|00:54:13|460|00:54:19|820</wrap>Leo really chose Mars, Sun, and Jupiter and not Mars, Sun, and Venus. So that has to be <wrap hide>506|00:54:19|820|00:54:27|060</wrap>worked out, but I don't think there's any loss there. The idea here is that Venus <wrap hide>507|00:54:27|060|00:54:34|360</wrap>represents the solar angel, and when the man is no longer mental and lower <wrap hide>508|00:54:34|360|00:54:38|440</wrap>personal, he's becoming aspirational and higher personal and integrating under <wrap hide>509|00:54:38|440|00:54:46|860</wrap>the soul. He's turning around, and Venus as the solar angel with its power is <wrap hide>510|00:54:46|860|00:54:51|600</wrap>coming into focus, and the man is orienting himself towards Venus. Even <wrap hide>511|00:54:51|600|00:54:56|920</wrap>though Venus is in detriment in Aries, it seems to be quite important in this <wrap hide>512|00:54:56|920|00:55:04|980</wrap>first area—this first degree, first ten degrees—because there is a reorientation. <wrap hide>513|00:55:04|980|00:55:12|140</wrap>Remember that according to the Tibetan, if we go to page 472 and we look <wrap hide>514|00:55:12|140|00:55:22|820</wrap>at crises, we will find the crisis of the soul that Aries in fact does rule—a <wrap hide>515|00:55:22|820|00:55:26|840</wrap>crisis of orientation and a kind of reversal where man begins to face the <wrap hide>516|00:55:26|840|00:55:35|180</wrap>soul. The soul is Venus, and when we look at the decanates here for the <wrap hide>517|00:55:35|180|00:55:41|700</wrap>aspirational, higher personal man, we are reorienting towards the soul. We are <wrap hide>518|00:55:41|700|00:55:46|720</wrap>bringing in the new ideas under Mercury in general, and we are reorienting <wrap hide>519|00:55:46|720|00:55:54|540</wrap>towards the soul, which is always symbolized by Venus, the solar angel. So <wrap hide>520|00:55:54|540|00:55:58|720</wrap>we're seeking to grow beyond the form—that's the Jupiter part of it and the <wrap hide>521|00:55:58|720|00:56:08|020</wrap>Venus—and under Venus, we reorient towards the energy of the solar angel. <wrap hide>522|00:56:08|840|00:56:14|020</wrap>Okay, I think that's fair enough. Now you have to test this out in your own life, <wrap hide>523|00:56:14|020|00:56:20|760</wrap>obviously. You know, the way to do it is experiment with the energies and just <wrap hide>524|00:56:20|760|00:56:27|580</wrap>see which of these energies seem to be sub-rulers for you in a decanate—in a <wrap hide>525|00:56:27|580|00:56:34|760</wrap>decanate sense—and maybe more than one will come in. You should look at the <wrap hide>526|00:56:34|760|00:56:39|980</wrap>sub-sign of the triplicity in which you are born. You should look at the ruler of <wrap hide>527|00:56:39|980|00:56:47|800</wrap>the sub-sign—usually the orthodox ruler. You should definitely, since you are on <wrap hide>528|00:56:47|800|00:56:53|900</wrap>the wheel of consciousness, look at the ruler of the decanate which the Tibetan <wrap hide>529|00:56:53|900|00:57:01|240</wrap>has assigned when it differs from what Alan Leo has given, or on occasion what <wrap hide>530|00:57:01|240|00:57:06|100</wrap>Sepharial has given when the Tibetan accepts Sepharial's as the best <wrap hide>531|00:57:06|100|00:57:12|340</wrap>expression. Whoa, okay, I got into something here that I didn't know I would <wrap hide>532|00:57:12|340|00:57:17|320</wrap>get into, but hopefully there's some clarity there and that you can see the <wrap hide>533|00:57:17|320|00:57:21|400</wrap>charts on your screen and you can understand what I'm attempting to drive <wrap hide>534|00:57:21|400|00:57:28|740</wrap>at. This is not as complete, of course, as it could be or would be, but I <wrap hide>535|00:57:28|740|00:57:31|900</wrap>don't want to get excessively tedious about this because we're trying to move <wrap hide>536|00:57:31|900|00:57:35|680</wrap>through the books, and it looks like it's going to take, you know, 300 of these <wrap hide>537|00:57:35|680|00:57:43|320</wrap>programs to do that anyway, maybe more, hopefully not. All right, friends, let us do <wrap hide>538|00:57:43|320|00:57:48|600</wrap>The Great Invocation together, as we always do. <wrap hide>539|00:57:54|760|00:58:00|260</wrap>All right, so we begin with the Om. <wrap hide>540|00:58:10|340|00:58:17|820</wrap>From the point of light within the mind of God, let light stream forth into the <wrap hide>541|00:58:17|820|00:58:22|320</wrap>minds of men. Let light descend on earth. <wrap hide>542|00:58:25|300|00:58:30|740</wrap>From the point of love within the heart of God, let love stream forth into the <wrap hide>543|00:58:30|740|00:58:34|640</wrap>hearts of men. May Christ return to earth. <wrap hide>544|00:58:40|000|00:58:44|860</wrap>From the center where the will of God is known, let purpose guide the little <wrap hide>545|00:58:44|860|00:58:55|360</wrap>wills of men, the purpose which the Masters know and serve. From the center <wrap hide>546|00:58:55|360|00:59:01|000</wrap>which we call the race of men, let the plan of love and light work out, and may <wrap hide>547|00:59:01|000|00:59:13|520</wrap>it seal the door where evil dwells. Let light and love and power restore the <wrap hide>548|00:59:13|520|00:59:15|380</wrap>plan on earth. <wrap hide>549|00:59:56|460|01:00:05|580</wrap>Okay, friends, we have reached the point almost exactly, and I guess we haven't <wrap hide>550|01:00:05|580|01:00:17|340</wrap>gone very far in the process here. I guess we are simply... we've simply dealt <wrap hide>551|01:00:17|340|01:00:25|180</wrap>with one paragraph and attempted to expand that paragraph. If I can get my <wrap hide>552|01:00:25|180|01:00:30|620</wrap>computer to function here properly, we are ending then Esoteric Astrology <wrap hide>553|01:00:30|620|01:00:41|740</wrap>Adventure. Okay, this is the... well, it's coming. No, I thought it was... I thought it <wrap hide>554|01:00:41|740|01:00:49|860</wrap>was... well, it seems to be... it seems to be operating in an interesting manner. Yes, <wrap hide>555|01:00:49|860|01:00:57|780</wrap>okay, so basically we are simply ending at the page we began, and I will <wrap hide>556|01:00:57|780|01:01:02|100</wrap>straighten all this out. I'm not going to take your time here to get these page <wrap hide>557|01:01:02|100|01:01:10|960</wrap>numbers correct. So for the time being, my computer is doing strange things. All <wrap hide>558|01:01:10|960|01:01:16|260</wrap>right, we will talk to you soon, and we start with number 50 very soon. All right, <wrap hide>559|01:01:16|260|01:01:17|520</wrap>talk to you soon. Bye-bye.+<wrap hide>1|00:00:07|900|00:00:11|000</wrap>Good morning, everybody. <wrap hide>2|00:00:13|360|00:00:21|940</wrap>This is our Esoteric Astrology adventure number 49. <wrap hide>3|00:00:24|140|00:00:32|680</wrap>And somehow some downloads have <wrap quote>just</wrap> begun, so I hope that this does not compromise our audio quality. <wrap hide>4|00:00:34|420|00:00:45|480</wrap>We have reached page 105 in the book, and we have been discussing the exaltations, <wrap hide>5|00:01:15|480|00:01:24|780</wrap>the subject that the Sun in exaltation represents, and then there is Saturn that falls in Aries in two ways. <wrap hide>6|00:01:25|700|00:01:42|600</wrap>It falls down into the lower planes of the cosmic physical plane there to administer karma, and it falls away as the individual enters the cardinal cross. <wrap hide>7|00:01:44|380|00:01:47|440</wrap>Now let's see what we have. <wrap hide>8|00:01:48|620|00:02:05|680</wrap><wrap quote>There is much that could be elaborated along this line, says the Tibetan, but the above will give a hint as to the esoteric significance of these three happenings within every sign.</wrap> <wrap hide>9|00:02:05|740|00:02:10|220</wrap>That is an exaltation, a detriment, and a fall. <wrap hide>10|00:02:10|220|00:02:17|400</wrap>As for rulership, a D.K. seems to describe these quite extensively. <wrap hide>11|00:02:18|840|00:02:24|660</wrap>They can indicate much concerning the man <wrap quote>whose horoscope is under consideration.</wrap> <wrap hide>12|00:02:25|880|00:02:36|360</wrap>And perhaps that is the spiritual opportunity presented to the individual, as long as we know something about the place at which he stands. <wrap hide>13|00:02:36|360|00:02:52|580</wrap>It does us no good to speak of the average individual who has the Sun in Aries as experiencing the opportunity of the emergence of the monad or father aspect. <wrap hide>14|00:02:53|920|00:03:05|300</wrap>That Venus is in detriment does not indicate that such an individual is ready for the fading out of <wrap quote>the solar angel</wrap> because so much has been accomplished in the realm of the soul. <wrap hide>15|00:03:05|300|00:03:27|680</wrap>As for Saturn in Aries, one of the interpretations that <wrap quote>Saturn cannot follow a man onto the cardinal cross</wrap> would not apply because the people with whom we are dealing, and ourselves as well, are not at all ready to enter the cardinal cross. <wrap hide>16|00:03:27|680|00:03:42|660</wrap>But the fall of Saturn into the lower worlds where karma is administered, the way Saturn follows a man down into the lower three worlds, that particular fall, the interpretation could apply. <wrap hide>17|00:03:42|660|00:03:59|680</wrap><wrap quote>The decanates can also be dealt with in two ways, according to the direction in which man is traveling upon the wheel, and therefore entering the sign, and he is speaking in symbols,</wrap> speaking in symbols. <wrap hide>18|00:04:01|960|00:04:11|720</wrap>It all depends how one responds to this, to the various decanates. <wrap hide>19|00:04:11|720|00:04:25|320</wrap><wrap quote>If he enters Aries when on the common cross, he will come under the influence of Mars, Sun and Jupiter, according to Sepharial.</wrap> <wrap hide>20|00:04:25|320|00:04:46|140</wrap>Sepharial's method of assigning the decanates has to do with the orbital period, and here he is working his way, let's see, Mars, the Sun and Jupiter. <wrap hide>21|00:04:47|160|00:05:07|100</wrap>That's interesting. I'll have to check that in my list of decanates. Usually he works his way out or in according to the period of the planet around the Sun, or around the Earth rather, geocentrically considered. <wrap hide>22|00:05:07|100|00:05:26|080</wrap><wrap quote>This means conflict,</wrap> which is Mars, revelation, which has to do with the light of the Sun, and the successful satisfaction of desire, which Jupiter always accords, and ambition, <wrap quote>as the aeons pass away.</wrap> <wrap hide>23|00:05:27|160|00:05:46|260</wrap>Ambition can be associated either with Mars, well, with any of these really, Mars, Jupiter or the Sun. <wrap quote>When he reorients himself and mounts the fixed cross,</wrap> the cross of the soul, <wrap quote>he comes under the influence of Jupiter</wrap> for the first decanate, the Sun for the second, and Mars. <wrap hide>24|00:05:46|260|00:06:01|680</wrap><wrap quote>For the initiate and the disciple culminates his career in any of the signs with a final and dominant struggle, and this, Mars, represents struggle and fight. <wrap hide>25|00:06:01|680|00:06:14|600</wrap>I would remark here that Alan Leo had a glimpse of the inner significance of the decanates when he assigned Mars, the Sun and Venus to the three decanates.</wrap> <wrap hide>26|00:06:14|860|00:06:29|420</wrap>Now, there Mars would be the first, the Sun second, and Venus would be the third. <wrap quote>He touched the truth of the inner subjective reversal upon the wheel,</wrap> which brings in other energies. <wrap hide>27|00:06:29|420|00:06:46|260</wrap>And I think what I would like to do here is speak a little bit about the decanates. This is the opportunity to do so, and I have some other charts which should help in this respect. <wrap hide>28|00:06:50|840|00:07:06|460</wrap>So, let us look at some of the decanate assignments as they have been gathered over the years. <wrap hide>29|00:07:06|460|00:07:22|660</wrap>We have here, well first of all, let's review what has been said by Alan Leo, and the manner in which it has been said. <wrap hide>30|00:07:23|460|00:07:32|400</wrap>We have the Mars, Sun and Jupiter according to Sepharial, and here they are. <wrap hide>31|00:07:34|100|00:07:42|560</wrap>Mars, Sun and Jupiter according to Sepharial. Let's see if I have, yes, there we go. Aha! This is interesting. <wrap hide>32|00:07:42|560|00:08:02|760</wrap>All right. Yes, it will be necessary to check this because what I see has happened is that the Sepharial method has been assigned to Alan Leo. <wrap hide>33|00:08:02|760|00:08:15|140</wrap>I wonder if this is a mistake in the text. We usually have Sepharial moving inward and outward according to orbital period. <wrap hide>34|00:08:15|140|00:08:27|520</wrap>So the arrangement for Sepharial would be Mars, Sun and Venus according to the length of the orbits. <wrap hide>35|00:08:27|780|00:08:39|480</wrap>And this would be followed according to length of orbit by Mercury and the Moon, and then we would go outward again to Saturn and move inward. <wrap hide>36|00:08:39|480|00:08:55|460</wrap>This is the way Sepharial operates, so Venus would technically be the ruler of the third decanate, i.e., the first decanate on the reversing wheel. <wrap hide>37|00:08:55|460|00:09:13|440</wrap>It's the ruler of the third decanate on the retrogressive wheel. So it would be Sepharial and not Alan Leo who would be assigning Venus to that position. <wrap hide>38|00:09:13|540|00:09:24|100</wrap>But this has to be sorted out because I'm very hesitant to think that there are mistakes in this book, as the Tibetan did proofread this. <wrap hide>39|00:09:24|100|00:09:30|580</wrap>We have the Alan Leo decanates as Mars, Sun, and Jupiter. <wrap hide>40|00:09:33|280|00:09:41|320</wrap>And let's see, they are found here. Let's see if I can... it's a little difficult to... yes. <wrap hide>41|00:09:42|480|00:09:45|700</wrap>Alan Leo, yes. Mars, Sun, and Jupiter. <wrap hide>42|00:09:46|360|00:09:53|160</wrap>Mars, the ruler of Aries. The Sun, the ruler of Leo. So we're in the Leo decanate of Aries. <wrap hide>43|00:09:53|160|00:09:56|460</wrap>And Jupiter, the ruler of Sagittarius. <wrap hide>44|00:09:57|840|00:10:05|880</wrap>Yes, there's no question about it. According to the way Sepharial usually operates, the order would be Mars, Sun, and Venus. <wrap hide>45|00:10:06|080|00:10:11|400</wrap>And according to the way Alan Leo usually operates, it would be Mars, Sun, and Jupiter. <wrap hide>46|00:10:11|560|00:10:19|500</wrap>And we have to question why it appears to be other than that in the text. <wrap hide>47|00:10:20|360|00:10:39|060</wrap>So what we generally have, here is a description of this, is that with Sepharial or with the wheel going backwards in the clockwise order, <wrap hide>48|00:10:40|820|00:10:44|180</wrap>we would enter from the third decanate. <wrap hide>49|00:10:44|180|00:10:50|180</wrap>Now the third decanate for Alan Leo is Jupiter and for Sepharial it's Venus. <wrap hide>50|00:10:51|420|00:11:02|200</wrap>So that is Jupiter-Venus for the first... well actually we enter from 20 to 30 degrees. This is the way it operates. <wrap hide>51|00:11:08|540|00:11:15|200</wrap>Okay, I've had to make a few changes here. I haven't reviewed this chart for quite a while, <wrap hide>52|00:11:15|340|00:11:23|900</wrap>but suffice it to say that the average individual enters the sign in what we normally call the third decanate. <wrap hide>53|00:11:23|900|00:11:35|980</wrap>And this is a chart to show that. The average individual on the wheel of form is entering under Mars, <wrap hide>54|00:11:37|360|00:11:48|120</wrap>as far as the third decanate rulership is concerned, and is proceeding towards the Sun in the second decanate, <wrap hide>55|00:11:48|120|00:11:57|780</wrap>and finally ends up with Jupiter or Venus. Sepharial says Venus as far as I can understand, and Alan Leo says Jupiter. <wrap hide>56|00:11:58|820|00:12:07|560</wrap>But what Master D.K. tells us is that the first decanate for the disciple is really ruled by Jupiter, <wrap hide>57|00:12:07|780|00:12:15|320</wrap>and he says that Alan Leo has the Venus in sight with respect to the first decanate, <wrap hide>58|00:12:15|320|00:12:21|900</wrap>but it's really, you know, it is Sepharial that certainly would indicate Venus. <wrap hide>59|00:12:23|240|00:12:30|240</wrap>Let's see if we see here. In the larger sense, yes. <wrap hide>60|00:12:31|240|00:12:39|640</wrap>Yeah, because Sepharial continues when he does the Taurus decanates to work with Mercury, the Moon, and Saturn, <wrap hide>61|00:12:39|640|00:12:44|740</wrap>and then he comes back in with Jupiter, so that is correct. That is correct. <wrap hide>62|00:12:45|720|00:12:52|860</wrap>And so Jupiter-Venus is ruling the first decanate for the disciple, the Sun the second decanate, <wrap hide>63|00:12:53|220|00:13:03|040</wrap>and Mars is ruling the final decanate, giving a climaxing battle, we are told, in the sign for the initiate. <wrap hide>64|00:13:03|040|00:13:10|380</wrap>As for the Alan Leo decanates, they are Mars for the first decanate, Sun for the second, and Jupiter for the third. <wrap hide>65|00:13:10|880|00:13:15|600</wrap>So we have some doubling up here, doubling up in the decanates. <wrap hide>66|00:13:17|840|00:13:28|220</wrap>Now let us take a look at some of the extra zodiacal constellations that are associated with the various decanates. <wrap hide>67|00:13:28|220|00:13:38|400</wrap>We have three constellations which are associated with Aries, and they are Cetus, the whale or the sea monster, <wrap hide>68|00:13:39|160|00:13:52|240</wrap>implying the engulfing of the soul, the little fish, which has gone forth into matter, and which is again seeking form. <wrap hide>69|00:13:52|240|00:14:04|160</wrap>So there is a tendency for the great subconscious forces to swallow or to engulf, and Jupiter can represent engulfment, <wrap hide>70|00:14:04|720|00:14:13|420</wrap>to engulf the consciousness. Then there is Cassiopeia that rules associated with the second decanate, <wrap hide>71|00:14:13|420|00:14:23|720</wrap>and that is the Queen, and matter is on the throne in these early days, and the sense of self-importance and the Ahamkara principle, <wrap hide>72|00:14:24|280|00:14:35|420</wrap>ruled by the Sun, is pre-eminent. So matter has not yet been dethroned; matter is enthroned, as a matter of fact. <wrap hide>73|00:14:35|420|00:14:48|520</wrap>And then in the final decanate, from 20 to 30 degrees, we have Perseus, the hero, the champion, who does save Andromeda, the soul. <wrap hide>74|00:14:50|540|00:15:01|120</wrap>Now Cetus, I think, correlates very well with Jupiter; Cassiopeia, the enthroned queen with the Sun; and Perseus, the hero under Mars. <wrap hide>75|00:15:01|120|00:15:08|260</wrap>The thing with the study of the decanates is that we are moving backward and forward simultaneously, <wrap hide>76|00:15:08|560|00:15:14|600</wrap>so in some cases it's difficult to assign a precise ruler to each decanate. <wrap hide>77|00:15:15|560|00:15:27|580</wrap>Master D.K. has his own assignments, and oftentimes they are at variance with the Sepharial method, which is Chaldean in origin, <wrap hide>78|00:15:27|580|00:15:33|600</wrap>and the Alan Leo method, which relates more to Indian astrology. <wrap hide>79|00:15:34|660|00:15:46|400</wrap>For instance, one takes the triplicities, let us say the fire triplicity, Aries, Leo, Sagittarius, and assigns in the following manner. <wrap hide>80|00:15:46|400|00:15:55|600</wrap>The first ten degrees of Aries are Aries sub-Aries, the next ten degrees from 10 to 20 are Aries sub-Leo, <wrap hide>81|00:15:55|680|00:16:03|420</wrap>we're taking the second fire sign of the triplicity and making it the sub-ruler, and then the third decanate from 20 to 30, <wrap hide>82|00:16:03|840|00:16:12|040</wrap>we're taking the third sign of the fire triplicity, Sagittarius, and making the rulership Aries sub-Sagittarius. <wrap hide>83|00:16:12|040|00:16:21|000</wrap>And accordingly, the rulers are Aries sub-Aries is Mars, because Mars is the ordinary ruler of Aries, <wrap hide>84|00:16:21|520|00:16:29|440</wrap>Aries sub-Leo is the Sun, the ordinary ruler of Leo, and Aries sub-Jupiter for Sagittarius, <wrap hide>85|00:16:29|720|00:16:36|960</wrap>because the Aries Sagittarius decanate has Jupiter as the ruler of sub-Sagittarius. <wrap hide>86|00:16:36|960|00:16:46|160</wrap>Now there really is something to be said for this system, regardless of the refinements that Master D.K. has added. <wrap hide>87|00:16:46|740|00:16:55|040</wrap>When you look at the form of individuals who are born in these signs and these decanates, <wrap hide>88|00:16:55|100|00:17:01|320</wrap>and I hope to get into some of the astro-radiological physiognomy and morphology, <wrap hide>89|00:17:01|320|00:17:12|700</wrap>we will see that there is a strong resemblance to these orthodox rulers, Mars, Sun, and Jupiter, <wrap hide>90|00:17:13|500|00:17:17|780</wrap>in the general form and bearing and expression of the individual. <wrap hide>91|00:17:18|980|00:17:26|660</wrap>That which D.K. assigns tends to be, I think, a little more subjective, maybe a lot more subjective, <wrap hide>92|00:17:26|660|00:17:34|680</wrap>and deal more with an esoteric factor rather than an exoteric formal factor, <wrap hide>93|00:17:34|720|00:17:38|940</wrap>which however does reflect an esoteric truth. <wrap hide>94|00:17:40|060|00:17:51|900</wrap>So the way we would have this is that on the wheel of consciousness we have Jupiter-Venus, Venus-Jupiter, <wrap hide>95|00:17:51|900|00:17:59|580</wrap>for the first ten degrees of the disciple who is moving in the counter-clockwise direction, the Sun, and then Mars. <wrap hide>96|00:18:00|440|00:18:08|120</wrap>On the reversing wheel we would have Mars, Sun, and Jupiter, and possibly Venus, <wrap hide>97|00:18:08|480|00:18:15|020</wrap>because in the usual Sepharial system Venus is the ruler of the third decanate, <wrap hide>98|00:18:15|180|00:18:19|440</wrap>which when reversed turns out to be the first decanate. <wrap hide>99|00:18:19|440|00:18:23|720</wrap>So some sort of Jupiter-Venus combination may be there. <wrap hide>100|00:18:23|780|00:18:26|540</wrap>There seems to be truth to all of these. <wrap hide>101|00:18:27|100|00:18:33|100</wrap>Sometimes D.K. points out that, "Okay look, Sepharial or Leo has made a definite mistake, <wrap hide>102|00:18:33|240|00:18:40|160</wrap>i.e. that the old Chaldean system or that the Hindu system, the system derived from India, <wrap hide>103|00:18:40|160|00:18:50|560</wrap>are incorrect in specific places," but usually he seems to imply that there is something to be said, <wrap hide>104|00:18:50|720|00:18:53|040</wrap>some value for all the systems. <wrap hide>105|00:18:53|760|00:19:00|960</wrap>Now I tried to create a six-fold chart here, and I'll do my best to find it. <wrap hide>106|00:19:01|500|00:19:03|500</wrap>This was done some long time ago. <wrap hide>107|00:19:03|620|00:19:08|980</wrap>The idea here is that we're moving toward the green and toward the blue. <wrap hide>108|00:19:08|980|00:19:10|300</wrap>I think you see that. <wrap hide>109|00:19:12|680|00:19:26|600</wrap>Here we have, at least archetypally, a physical type of manifestation in the first decanate of the wheel of form. <wrap hide>110|00:19:26|840|00:19:31|480</wrap>Now the wheel of form enters backwards, so you're really going from 30 to 20 degrees. <wrap hide>111|00:19:32|300|00:19:35|140</wrap>And Mars is the ruler. <wrap hide>112|00:19:36|820|00:19:43|260</wrap>Although you can make a case for Jupiter being present here as well and for the idea of engulfment in form. <wrap hide>113|00:19:45|020|00:19:52|980</wrap>The next decanate is associated particularly with the astral body and with a period of astral development. <wrap hide>114|00:19:54|060|00:19:55|620</wrap>And the Sun is the ruler. <wrap hide>115|00:19:56|520|00:20:01|060</wrap>Alan Leo says this, the Tibetan says this, and Sepharial says this. <wrap hide>116|00:20:01|060|00:20:07|520</wrap>Then we reach what is the third decanate from the perspective of the wheel of form, <wrap hide>117|00:20:07|740|00:20:10|860</wrap>but since we're going backwards it's really 0 to 10 degrees. <wrap hide>118|00:20:12|100|00:20:15|420</wrap>And from the Alan Leo perspective it's Mars, Sun, Jupiter. <wrap hide>119|00:20:15|660|00:20:19|300</wrap>From the Sepharial perspective it's Mars, Sun, Venus. <wrap hide>120|00:20:21|340|00:20:27|080</wrap>Then that should be connected with mental development. <wrap hide>121|00:20:27|080|00:20:35|460</wrap>I think what I will have to do, you know I've got quite a bit on the decanates and they would make a study in themselves. <wrap hide>122|00:20:35|760|00:20:43|920</wrap>So I will not be able to perhaps discuss the entire chart here, but at least give some indications. <wrap hide>123|00:20:46|700|00:20:54|200</wrap>This third decanate on the wheel of form is a time when the mind per se is emphasized. <wrap hide>124|00:20:54|820|00:21:00|560</wrap>Now I have an important caveat with respect to all of this. I'm speaking about an archetypal structure here. <wrap hide>125|00:21:01|540|00:21:09|580</wrap>The first decanate of discipleship has the Jupiter given by the Tibetan, <wrap hide>126|00:21:10|740|00:21:21|640</wrap>and Venus, which he seems to imply, we would have to reverse this direction. <wrap hide>127|00:21:21|640|00:21:28|380</wrap>Since Venus is operative at the third decanate on the wheel of form, you begin where you leave off, <wrap hide>128|00:21:29|680|00:21:34|380</wrap>rather the third decanate on the wheel of form, we begin with the first decanate on the wheel of consciousness. <wrap hide>129|00:21:34|560|00:21:39|140</wrap>These two are often equivalent and Venus, the solar angel, is found here. <wrap hide>130|00:21:39|400|00:21:45|180</wrap>What we're really looking at is a decanate correlated with the integration of the personality. <wrap hide>131|00:21:45|180|00:21:52|280</wrap>The next decanate, ruled by the Sun, the source of illumination, is to be associated archetypally with the soul, <wrap hide>132|00:21:53|920|00:22:02|240</wrap>and the final decanate is to be associated with the spirit aspect, with the monadic aspect. <wrap hide>133|00:22:02|880|00:22:11|780</wrap>And we have here a blue star. The green star tells us that we're on the personality path, <wrap hide>134|00:22:11|780|00:22:16|680</wrap>and the blue star tells us we're on the spiritual path. <wrap hide>135|00:22:17|480|00:22:27|160</wrap>Now, some astrologers have said that when the Sun is located—if a person is on the wheel of form, let us say, <wrap hide>136|00:22:27|820|00:22:35|560</wrap>and the Sun is located, let us say, in the first decanate—it's definitely, they're definitely passing through a stage <wrap hide>137|00:22:35|560|00:22:38|940</wrap>when they're dealing with the etheric physical vehicle, per se. <wrap hide>138|00:22:38|940|00:22:45|500</wrap>That they definitely have an astral emphasis on the wheel of form if their Sun is in the second decanate, <wrap hide>139|00:22:45|520|00:22:53|460</wrap>and they definitely have a mental emphasis if their Sun is in the third decanate of the wheel of form. <wrap hide>140|00:22:53|620|00:23:05|220</wrap>I would like to take exception to this and say that it is possible for different people who are at one of those stages of development— <wrap hide>141|00:23:05|220|00:23:10|920</wrap>let's say the Lemurian stage, there are very few on the planet at the moment, who are strictly etheric physical beings— <wrap hide>142|00:23:11|560|00:23:15|840</wrap>their Sun can be in any of the decanates of Aries, any of the three. <wrap hide>143|00:23:16|700|00:23:23|400</wrap>The majority of people are emotional, and I would say they can be born in any of the three decanates in Aries. <wrap hide>144|00:23:24|380|00:23:28|300</wrap>Fewer are mental, and again I would say they can be born in any of the decanates of Aries. <wrap hide>145|00:23:28|660|00:23:34|340</wrap>We will see how this works out on the wheel of consciousness here, which begins with Jupiter, Venus, <wrap hide>146|00:23:34|340|00:23:37|900</wrap>the Sun, and then moves to Mars, as the Tibetan describes. <wrap hide>147|00:23:40|440|00:23:51|680</wrap>And I would like to say that if you are born in the first decanate, it does not necessarily mean that you are struggling with issues of personality integration. <wrap hide>148|00:23:52|120|00:23:56|840</wrap>You could be a soul-conscious individual; you could even be a spirit-conscious individual. <wrap hide>149|00:23:57|460|00:24:02|840</wrap>If you are born in the second decanate and you are on the wheel of consciousness, which means you are a disciple, <wrap hide>150|00:24:03|840|00:24:13|000</wrap>or attending towards becoming an initiate, it does not necessarily mean that you are working with the soul energies. <wrap hide>151|00:24:14|220|00:24:20|280</wrap>A person who is a spirit-conscious person, or even someone who is working with personality issues, <wrap hide>152|00:24:20|460|00:24:26|100</wrap>and integrating the personality and moving forward in that way, trying to align personality with soul, <wrap hide>153|00:24:26|100|00:24:27|880</wrap>could still be born in the second decanate. <wrap hide>154|00:24:28|680|00:24:33|700</wrap>And I think it becomes most obvious when you look at the third decanate. <wrap hide>155|00:24:34|800|00:24:42|700</wrap>In the third decanate, supposedly you are dealing with monadic and spirit issues, and there are so few people who are really doing that. <wrap hide>156|00:24:43|360|00:24:51|660</wrap>We cannot say across the board that people who are born in the third decanate of Aries—i.e., from 20 degrees to 30 on the wheel of consciousness— <wrap hide>157|00:24:51|660|00:24:55|220</wrap>are necessarily dealing with spirit and monadic issues. <wrap hide>158|00:24:55|360|00:25:00|600</wrap>They could certainly be dealing with the alignment of the personality with the soul; they could be dealing with soul issues. <wrap hide>159|00:25:01|140|00:25:03|100</wrap>So I think we have to be very careful about that. <wrap hide>160|00:25:03|480|00:25:14|800</wrap>But archetypally, at least, there is a tendency for these six decanates to correlate with the different parts of the human constitution, <wrap hide>161|00:25:15|300|00:25:20|800</wrap>namely physical, astral, mental, personal, soul, and spirit. <wrap hide>162|00:25:20|800|00:25:24|500</wrap>That's an archetypal correlation, but it cannot be forced. <wrap hide>163|00:25:24|800|00:25:32|480</wrap>Now, in this chart I've spoken quite a bit about the physical, emotional, mental, personal stages. <wrap hide>164|00:25:33|400|00:25:39|880</wrap>And what I call a fourth stage, which begins with the reversal of the wheel, is an aspirational stage. <wrap hide>165|00:25:40|480|00:25:43|060</wrap>It's personal, and we are integrating under the soul. <wrap hide>166|00:25:44|500|00:25:50|200</wrap>The third decanate is not strictly mental; I would call it mental-personal. <wrap hide>167|00:25:50|200|00:25:52|760</wrap>The third decanate on the wheel of form. <wrap hide>168|00:25:53|580|00:25:55|660</wrap>And let's go up here, and I'll show you what I mean. <wrap hide>169|00:25:56|500|00:26:05|320</wrap>This third decanate on the wheel of form is mental-personal. <wrap hide>170|00:26:06|240|00:26:11|560</wrap>Because the mental unit and the personality are so closely allied, <wrap hide>171|00:26:11|740|00:26:18|720</wrap>so that when a person really begins to cultivate his lower mind, he is at once cultivating the personal side of his personality. <wrap hide>172|00:26:18|720|00:26:22|380</wrap>But there's also an aspirational side to the personality, <wrap hide>173|00:26:22|380|00:26:27|920</wrap>and there one is moving forward personally. <wrap hide>174|00:26:28|120|00:26:33|520</wrap>Instead of simply indulging the personality, one is aligning the personality with the soul. <wrap hide>175|00:26:34|400|00:26:38|740</wrap>So I've dealt with all this, but I don't want to get tedious about it. <wrap hide>176|00:26:39|340|00:26:45|400</wrap>I think we're most interested in the wheel of consciousness, <wrap hide>177|00:26:45|400|00:26:50|560</wrap>in which the zero to ten degrees is ruled, according to the Tibetan, by Jupiter, <wrap hide>178|00:26:50|860|00:26:55|160</wrap>with Alan Leo having an insight about Venus there. <wrap hide>179|00:26:57|040|00:27:01|400</wrap>And with the sun representing ten to twenty degrees, <wrap hide>180|00:27:02|000|00:27:09|020</wrap>and the final ten degrees represented by Mars. <wrap hide>181|00:27:09|700|00:27:13|460</wrap>So if we have the disciple, discipleship person, <wrap hide>182|00:27:14|580|00:27:21|620</wrap>we are ruled here in the first decanate by Jupiter. <wrap hide>183|00:27:21|840|00:27:24|360</wrap>Now there are three rulers of Aries, <wrap hide>184|00:27:24|860|00:27:30|020</wrap>and at the different phases of development over the long course of human evolution, <wrap hide>185|00:27:30|960|00:27:32|680</wrap>different planets will rule. <wrap hide>186|00:27:32|900|00:27:38|460</wrap>Mars is ruling in the physical stage, the emotional stage, and the mental stage, <wrap hide>187|00:27:38|540|00:27:40|440</wrap>which lasts a long, long time. <wrap hide>188|00:27:40|440|00:27:42|940</wrap>Many millions of years. <wrap hide>189|00:27:43|840|00:27:47|000</wrap>When we begin to reverse the wheel, <wrap hide>190|00:27:48|360|00:27:51|420</wrap>and begin to orient ourselves towards the higher of the pairs of opposites, <wrap hide>191|00:27:52|000|00:27:53|820</wrap>we are coming under the Mercury rulership, <wrap hide>192|00:27:54|140|00:27:58|460</wrap>and so <wrap quote>both</wrap> for the aspiring personality and for the person who is truly the disciple soul, <wrap hide>193|00:27:59|760|00:28:03|880</wrap>the soul incarnation, <wrap quote>as a disciple,</wrap> Mercury is the esoteric ruler, <wrap hide>194|00:28:04|400|00:28:06|860</wrap>and then when we're in the initiatic phase, <wrap hide>195|00:28:07|740|00:28:09|960</wrap>when we're coming under the influence of the monad, <wrap hide>196|00:28:10|180|00:28:14|140</wrap>then Uranus is the esoteric ruler, the hierarchical ruler. <wrap hide>197|00:28:14|280|00:28:15|580</wrap>So you see how I've done this. <wrap hide>198|00:28:16|360|00:28:19|060</wrap>I've taken the six phases. <wrap hide>199|00:28:19|320|00:28:20|740</wrap>You see, once I do this once, <wrap hide>200|00:28:21|980|00:28:25|900</wrap>we will see how it can work for all the signs. <wrap hide>201|00:28:26|340|00:28:28|600</wrap>I've taken the six phases of human development: <wrap hide>202|00:28:29|220|00:28:34|660</wrap>etheric physical, emotional, mental, mental personal—that's the third one— <wrap hide>203|00:28:34|660|00:28:40|760</wrap>then aspirational personal, the reorienting personality, <wrap hide>204|00:28:41|360|00:28:43|360</wrap>then the fifth phase, discipleship soul, <wrap hide>205|00:28:44|240|00:28:46|760</wrap>and then the sixth phase, initiatic monad, <wrap hide>206|00:28:47|360|00:28:51|800</wrap>and what I've done is I've used the following chart. <wrap hide>207|00:28:52|440|00:28:57|440</wrap>This chart is on page 332, and I've referred to it before. <wrap hide>208|00:29:00|020|00:29:00|900</wrap>And there it is. <wrap hide>209|00:29:01|040|00:29:03|400</wrap>The three phases of human development. <wrap hide>210|00:29:03|400|00:29:08|600</wrap>The undeveloped man, and I think we can consider him the personal man, <wrap hide>211|00:29:08|780|00:29:11|120</wrap>the man who's heading towards the development of personality. <wrap hide>212|00:29:12|000|00:29:14|020</wrap>Then the advanced man. <wrap hide>213|00:29:14|820|00:29:18|580</wrap>He is the integrating personality, tending towards the soul, <wrap hide>214|00:29:18|620|00:29:19|980</wrap>and then the disciple initiate. <wrap hide>215|00:29:20|340|00:29:25|160</wrap>This chart is not laid out exactly the way my chart is laid out, <wrap hide>216|00:29:25|160|00:29:28|140</wrap>because I developed six strict categories, <wrap hide>217|00:29:28|140|00:29:32|260</wrap>and I separate the discipleship category from the initiate category. <wrap hide>218|00:29:32|260|00:29:35|840</wrap>Here, disciple and initiate are put together, <wrap hide>219|00:29:35|840|00:29:41|280</wrap>and what the disciple begins to do in terms of recognition and work with the plan, <wrap hide>220|00:29:41|880|00:29:45|360</wrap>the initiate completely accomplishes and uses the will. <wrap hide>221|00:29:45|460|00:29:49|460</wrap>But this is the general paradigm that I have been using. <wrap hide>222|00:29:51|000|00:29:53|220</wrap>Okay, so if we get back to this, <wrap hide>223|00:29:54|780|00:29:59|600</wrap>let's just say that Jupiter is the ruler here in the first decanate, <wrap hide>224|00:29:59|640|00:30:00|960</wrap>and so is Venus. <wrap hide>225|00:30:00|960|00:30:05|720</wrap>So there is for the discipleship individual, <wrap hide>226|00:30:06|680|00:30:09|900</wrap>coming under Mercury in general, <wrap hide>227|00:30:10|800|00:30:14|080</wrap>where the divine ideas are touched, <wrap hide>228|00:30:14|560|00:30:16|940</wrap>and the intuition is beginning to register, <wrap hide>229|00:30:17|500|00:30:22|400</wrap>and the new ideas which must descend into human life are beginning to register. <wrap hide>230|00:30:22|580|00:30:26|000</wrap>We have under Jupiter a growing sense of the all-embracing one life, <wrap hide>231|00:30:26|020|00:30:29|520</wrap>because we know how inclusive Jupiter can be, <wrap hide>232|00:30:29|520|00:30:32|480</wrap>and it always brings things together and embraces the whole. <wrap hide>233|00:30:33|620|00:30:35|780</wrap>Now we come next. <wrap hide>234|00:30:38|960|00:30:42|820</wrap>Okay, so you know, and the sea monster is found here, <wrap hide>235|00:30:42|920|00:30:44|120</wrap>but in this case, <wrap hide>236|00:30:46|160|00:30:51|720</wrap>the sea monster is not swallowing the consciousness of the soul—quite otherwise. <wrap hide>237|00:30:52|160|00:30:56|760</wrap>The consciousness is embracing all of the factors, <wrap hide>238|00:30:56|760|00:30:59|540</wrap>even the lower factors which Cetus represents. <wrap hide>239|00:31:00|580|00:31:08|600</wrap>Cetus is in this way the soul capable of devouring all levels of consciousness <wrap hide>240|00:31:08|600|00:31:10|980</wrap>and including it within itself. <wrap hide>241|00:31:11|240|00:31:16|540</wrap>We can reverse even such a symbol as the Cetus, the sea monster. <wrap hide>242|00:31:16|700|00:31:18|260</wrap>It doesn't mean only one thing, <wrap hide>243|00:31:18|340|00:31:23|540</wrap>because many high individuals can be born in that first decanate. <wrap hide>244|00:31:23|540|00:31:27|480</wrap>It doesn't mean they're all subject to the lower aspect of the sea monster. <wrap hide>245|00:31:28|160|00:31:29|860</wrap>By the way, I want to say, <wrap hide>246|00:31:30|800|00:31:34|740</wrap>with respect to these constellations, <wrap hide>247|00:31:34|920|00:31:37|780</wrap>that all of them apply to every Aries individual. <wrap hide>248|00:31:38|760|00:31:41|240</wrap>Some of us, in working with esoteric astrology, <wrap hide>249|00:31:41|400|00:31:46|880</wrap>have attempted to take three constellations and assign them to the decanates. <wrap hide>250|00:31:47|980|00:31:51|080</wrap>Well, that is a reasonable thing to do, <wrap hide>251|00:31:51|080|00:31:54|400</wrap>but we should not be too cut and dried and too exclusive. <wrap hide>252|00:31:55|280|00:31:57|720</wrap>Every Aries individual has the sea monster, <wrap hide>253|00:31:58|000|00:32:00|660</wrap>the enthronement of matter, <wrap hide>254|00:32:00|880|00:32:03|840</wrap>and the champion or hero in him. <wrap hide>255|00:32:04|520|00:32:07|780</wrap>Although there is a tendency when you look at the rulers <wrap hide>256|00:32:08|380|00:32:14|540</wrap>to want to assign one of the constellations to each one of the decanates, <wrap hide>257|00:32:14|600|00:32:16|860</wrap>and perhaps that can be somewhat successfully done, <wrap hide>258|00:32:16|860|00:32:20|700</wrap>but in a larger sense we should bear in mind <wrap hide>259|00:32:20|700|00:32:29|480</wrap>that each of these three extra-zodiacal constellations <wrap hide>260|00:32:32|700|00:32:35|820</wrap>applies to every Aries individual, <wrap hide>261|00:32:36|520|00:32:38|440</wrap>and so forth for the other signs as well. <wrap hide>262|00:32:38|860|00:32:41|480</wrap>A lot of work on this has been done by Nicholas Milen, <wrap hide>263|00:32:41|480|00:32:48|140</wrap>who made various assignments of the extra-zodiacal constellations <wrap hide>264|00:32:48|140|00:32:51|240</wrap>to the three decanates, <wrap hide>265|00:32:51|360|00:32:55|180</wrap>and Stephen Pugh has done a lot of excellent work on the decanates. <wrap hide>266|00:32:55|320|00:32:57|480</wrap>We all have our points of agreement and disagreement, <wrap hide>267|00:32:57|640|00:33:00|800</wrap>and I'll just try to justify mine. <wrap hide>268|00:33:02|380|00:33:04|120</wrap>But you know, you'll have to get into it yourself. <wrap hide>269|00:33:04|540|00:33:09|420</wrap>Now, for the disciple or the soul under Aries, <wrap hide>270|00:33:10|360|00:33:15|360</wrap>you know, in general we're having unselfish directed personality effort, <wrap hide>271|00:33:15|800|00:33:20|400</wrap>which is aiming at the recognition and work with the divine plan <wrap hide>272|00:33:20|400|00:33:22|260</wrap>and cultivating the will. <wrap hide>273|00:33:22|760|00:33:26|460</wrap>You saw how here we had for the disciple initiate <wrap hide>274|00:33:28|600|00:33:31|840</wrap>recognition and work with the plan and the will. <wrap hide>275|00:33:32|000|00:33:35|380</wrap>Well, the disciple is cultivating that, <wrap hide>276|00:33:35|460|00:33:37|460</wrap>is coming increasingly under soul consciousness. <wrap hide>277|00:33:37|460|00:33:45|340</wrap>In the second decanate, there is that sun identification, <wrap hide>278|00:33:46|240|00:33:49|770</wrap>so I say here that the individual has the potential of identifying <wrap hide>279|00:33:50|080|00:33:52|400</wrap>as the soul-infusing personality. <wrap hide>280|00:33:53|260|00:33:58|920</wrap>There is increasingly fuller revelation of the soul on its own plane, <wrap hide>281|00:33:59|440|00:34:02|520</wrap>which fits with the illuminative power of the sun. <wrap hide>282|00:34:03|220|00:34:08|560</wrap>Finally, we enter the third decanate where a battle is supposed to occur, <wrap hide>283|00:34:08|900|00:34:11|140</wrap>both for the disciple and the initiate, <wrap hide>284|00:34:11|300|00:34:13|340</wrap>and probably also for the aspiring personality. <wrap hide>285|00:34:16|320|00:34:20|140</wrap>This is seen by me as a mentally focused battle <wrap hide>286|00:34:20|140|00:34:22|500</wrap>to be rid of glamour and illusion. <wrap hide>287|00:34:22|680|00:34:25|580</wrap>A person is becoming, as it were, Perseus. <wrap hide>288|00:34:26|700|00:34:30|560</wrap>Here, the person is becoming Cassiopeia, <wrap hide>289|00:34:30|560|00:34:34|020</wrap>but it is not just matter that is enthroned. <wrap hide>290|00:34:34|720|00:34:37|320</wrap>It is the sense of soul consciousness, <wrap hide>291|00:34:37|700|00:34:40|680</wrap>which is increasingly enthroned. <wrap hide>292|00:34:43|420|00:34:46|280</wrap>And in the third decanate, then, the Perseus decanate, <wrap hide>293|00:34:46|680|00:34:49|520</wrap>there is a battle upon the plane of mind <wrap hide>294|00:34:49|520|00:34:54|780</wrap>to be rid of glamour and illusion so that the soul can shine forth. <wrap hide>295|00:34:55|900|00:34:58|100</wrap>Over here, for the aspiring personality, <wrap hide>296|00:34:58|100|00:35:02|660</wrap>a little in the earlier stages, I have some other things stated, <wrap hide>297|00:35:02|940|00:35:08|300</wrap>and I'll have to decide whether I go through all of this, <wrap hide>298|00:35:08|420|00:35:12|840</wrap>because technically we're supposed to be discussing what the Tibetan has said, <wrap hide>299|00:35:13|020|00:35:17|380</wrap>and I know some of this is my own, based upon what he has said. <wrap hide>300|00:35:17|820|00:35:21|040</wrap>Then we get into the initiatic or monadic stage, <wrap hide>301|00:35:22|060|00:35:24|580</wrap>and we're definitely under Uranus at this point, <wrap hide>302|00:35:24|620|00:35:27|540</wrap>and we're treading some of the final burning grounds. <wrap hide>303|00:35:28|200|00:35:31|080</wrap>We're, you know, getting ready for the third initiation here, <wrap hide>304|00:35:31|080|00:35:33|560</wrap>or have passed it, getting ready for the fourth, <wrap hide>305|00:35:33|680|00:35:37|120</wrap>or are beyond it and Uranus ruling the final burning ground. <wrap hide>306|00:35:37|720|00:35:43|860</wrap>We'll give us, in general, and for all Aries people born at this time, <wrap hide>307|00:35:44|520|00:35:48|720</wrap>selfless directed effort of the soul-infused personality, <wrap hide>308|00:35:49|100|00:35:52|880</wrap>which has achieved integration and worked with the plan. <wrap hide>309|00:35:53|680|00:35:59|800</wrap>So we are definitely here receiving archetypal ideas under Uranus, <wrap hide>310|00:35:59|920|00:36:03|960</wrap>not just good ideas, not just ideas coming through under Mercury, <wrap hide>311|00:36:04|100|00:36:08|040</wrap>but we're receiving the real thing from the world of being. <wrap hide>312|00:36:08|800|00:36:14|200</wrap>We've given up ourselves, and our will is very much identified <wrap hide>313|00:36:14|200|00:36:19|200</wrap>with the divine will and plan and as much of the purpose as we can bring through. <wrap hide>314|00:36:19|200|00:36:23|980</wrap>So Uranus and archetypal purpose are very closely related. <wrap hide>315|00:36:24|960|00:36:30|220</wrap>So here in the first decanate, which is ruled by Jupiter-Venus, <wrap hide>316|00:36:30|600|00:36:35|200</wrap>the Venus part, the soul is shining forth, <wrap hide>317|00:36:35|460|00:36:40|940</wrap>and the Jupiter part reflecting the positive part of Cetus, <wrap hide>318|00:36:41|240|00:36:43|800</wrap>we are engulfed by the One Life, <wrap hide>319|00:36:43|800|00:36:50|700</wrap>and we are in this vast, unitive, first triadal and then monadic consciousness. <wrap hide>320|00:36:51|960|00:36:55|880</wrap>So I will say, yes, first triadal and then monadic. <wrap hide>321|00:36:57|380|00:37:02|660</wrap>When we're in the Sun decanate, we're identified as the soul-infused personality <wrap hide>322|00:37:02|660|00:37:05|940</wrap>as an expression of the triad or spirit, <wrap hide>323|00:37:06|400|00:37:08|720</wrap>and there is increasing revelation of the monad. <wrap hide>324|00:37:08|820|00:37:11|840</wrap>The monad can stand for the Sun, the triad can stand for the Sun, <wrap hide>325|00:37:11|840|00:37:17|740</wrap>the higher ego can stand for the Sun, so we are in a strong fullness of soul consciousness. <wrap hide>326|00:37:18|420|00:37:24|520</wrap>In none of this are we yet speaking of taking the fourth degree. <wrap hide>327|00:37:24|720|00:37:26|920</wrap>We're holding ourselves below the fourth degree. <wrap hide>328|00:37:27|040|00:37:32|160</wrap>I think that's wise because we cannot speculate too much about what might occur beyond that point. <wrap hide>329|00:37:32|860|00:37:38|440</wrap>And finally, in the Perseus decanate, I call it that, even though, you know, <wrap hide>330|00:37:38|440|00:37:45|160</wrap>as I said, all these meanings of Cetus, Cassiopeia and Perseus apply to every area and every individual, <wrap hide>331|00:37:45|320|00:37:49|500</wrap>but in the end, Mars is the final, indicating the final battle, <wrap hide>332|00:37:50|080|00:37:53|360</wrap>and we have the victory in battle with illusion. <wrap hide>333|00:37:53|680|00:37:58|040</wrap>The jungle of illusion, the jungle of experience dissolves in flames, <wrap hide>334|00:37:58|220|00:38:04|160</wrap>even that is happening under Mercury, and the path stands free. <wrap hide>335|00:38:05|300|00:38:07|700</wrap>Let's see what that exact quote is. <wrap hide>336|00:38:07|700|00:38:10|060</wrap>I want to... <wrap hide>337|00:38:10|060|00:38:17|240</wrap>The jungles of experience, yes, jungles, j-u-n-g-l-e-s, jungles, there's only one. <wrap hide>338|00:38:18|140|00:38:21|940</wrap>The jungles of experience are set on fire and dissolve in flames, <wrap hide>339|00:38:22|080|00:38:26|060</wrap>and then the path stands clear and unobstructed vision is achieved. <wrap hide>340|00:38:26|180|00:38:29|440</wrap>That's the full quotation, and it's a very beautiful one. <wrap hide>341|00:38:29|560|00:38:33|540</wrap>The jungles of experience are set on fire and dissolve in flames, <wrap hide>342|00:38:33|540|00:38:37|600</wrap>and then the path stands clear and unobstructed vision is achieved. <wrap hide>343|00:38:38|140|00:38:42|060</wrap>So there is a final conquest with illusion. <wrap hide>344|00:38:42|240|00:38:45|300</wrap>There is a battle with the dweller going on here, <wrap hide>345|00:38:45|400|00:38:50|300</wrap>and all the illusory aspects of the dweller are contended with. <wrap hide>346|00:38:51|180|00:38:53|620</wrap>Perhaps there is not a complete victory, <wrap hide>347|00:38:53|700|00:38:59|060</wrap>although I think in any sign a person can achieve very close to that complete victory. <wrap hide>348|00:38:59|780|00:39:02|960</wrap>Well, you know, I've kind of plunged into this a bit. <wrap hide>349|00:39:03|540|00:39:05|460</wrap>I have a lot here. <wrap hide>350|00:39:07|060|00:39:12|960</wrap>But as I say, I think we're strictly, we're most interested in the stage <wrap hide>351|00:39:12|960|00:39:18|180</wrap>on the reversed wheel, the counterclockwise wheel, the wheel of consciousness, <wrap hide>352|00:39:18|600|00:39:22|160</wrap>which will be occurring under the esoteric and hierarchical rulers, <wrap hide>353|00:39:22|420|00:39:24|140</wrap>so therefore in Aries under Mercury, <wrap hide>354|00:39:25|380|00:39:29|120</wrap>for two stages, which I call aspirational personal, <wrap hide>355|00:39:30|640|00:39:33|680</wrap>integrating under the soul, and disciplic soul, <wrap hide>356|00:39:34|620|00:39:37|200</wrap>and hierarchical for the initiate and the monad. <wrap hide>357|00:39:37|900|00:39:41|880</wrap>I didn't really say much about the person who is integrating the personality <wrap hide>358|00:39:41|880|00:39:45|160</wrap>and having it, seeking for it to respond to the soul, <wrap hide>359|00:39:45|240|00:39:47|540</wrap>but I will say a little, because I think I should. <wrap hide>360|00:39:48|360|00:39:54|920</wrap>We must recognize under Jupiter, for zero to ten degrees, <wrap hide>361|00:39:55|120|00:39:58|900</wrap>we have to recognize the way the form devours the consciousness, <wrap hide>362|00:39:59|080|00:40:03|300</wrap>and we must seek to expand our consciousness and grow beyond it <wrap hide>363|00:40:03|300|00:40:06|880</wrap>by expanding the soul awareness. <wrap hide>364|00:40:07|120|00:40:10|600</wrap>Now, either Jupiter or Venus would suit here. <wrap hide>365|00:40:11|180|00:40:14|560</wrap>Remember that the way we have it, according to the Tibetan, <wrap hide>366|00:40:15|740|00:40:24|140</wrap>that Jupiter and Venus are the rulers of the first decanate on the wheel of consciousness, <wrap hide>367|00:40:24|680|00:40:25|940</wrap>Sun the second, and Mars the third. <wrap hide>368|00:40:26|020|00:40:33|860</wrap>That's how the Tibetan gives it, and he suggests that Alan Leo has given Venus as the ruler, <wrap hide>369|00:40:34|460|00:40:39|800</wrap>but what I find is that it's Sepharial that has done that. <wrap hide>370|00:40:40|040|00:40:43|700</wrap>So, I don't know, there's some kind of reversal going on there. <wrap hide>371|00:40:43|700|00:40:45|400</wrap>But either one will do. <wrap hide>372|00:40:45|960|00:40:49|300</wrap>Venus and Jupiter both relate to the causal body. <wrap hide>373|00:40:50|060|00:40:55|740</wrap>Venus is relating to the growing quality within the causal body, <wrap hide>374|00:40:57|180|00:41:02|420</wrap>and its beauty, and its loving magnetism, <wrap hide>375|00:41:02|540|00:41:07|180</wrap>and Jupiter is relating in general to the expansion of the causal consciousness. <wrap hide>376|00:41:08|580|00:41:12|580</wrap>The Sun is related to illumination and to enlightenment in general, <wrap hide>377|00:41:12|580|00:41:20|820</wrap>and Mars, as we know, to conflict, and he tells us the initiate climaxes his work within any sign with a battle. <wrap hide>378|00:41:22|660|00:41:29|520</wrap>So, OK, going on here, yes, I have to go back and forth. <wrap hide>379|00:41:30|060|00:41:34|440</wrap>So, in the aspirational or higher personal or integrating under the soul stage, <wrap hide>380|00:41:34|540|00:41:39|160</wrap>we do have Mercury, and we have what the Tibetan calls directed personality effort, <wrap hide>381|00:41:39|320|00:41:41|400</wrap>but it's towards being unselfish. <wrap hide>382|00:41:41|400|00:41:44|120</wrap>We have to try to become the unselfish personality, <wrap hide>383|00:41:44|140|00:41:47|360</wrap>and it's so easy for Aries people to be self-centered <wrap hide>384|00:41:47|360|00:41:52|040</wrap>and have their eyes strictly upon their own activities and energies. <wrap hide>385|00:41:52|600|00:41:58|200</wrap>So, in the Jupiter-Venus decanate, we are recognizing how the form usually devours consciousness. <wrap hide>386|00:41:58|380|00:42:00|620</wrap>We want to grow beyond it, and we want the soul to shine. <wrap hide>387|00:42:01|400|00:42:05|960</wrap>When we're in the Sun decanate, which we have been associating with Cassiopeia, <wrap hide>388|00:42:06|500|00:42:09|660</wrap>we are identified here as consciously as an aspirant, <wrap hide>389|00:42:09|660|00:42:15|340</wrap>and we're having the higher self, which is also a Sun, revealed. <wrap hide>390|00:42:16|340|00:42:19|200</wrap>And we are striving towards the higher self. <wrap hide>391|00:42:19|360|00:42:25|920</wrap>We know how much striving power is found in Aries. <wrap hide>392|00:42:26|580|00:42:33|820</wrap>Finally, Mars is the ruler for those born in the last 20 to 30 degrees, <wrap hide>393|00:42:34|080|00:42:38|200</wrap>and we have an aspirational fighting to be free of illusion. <wrap hide>394|00:42:38|200|00:42:49|100</wrap>We aspire, we seek to battle our illusions, sometimes not possessed of our full mental capacities, <wrap hide>395|00:42:49|520|00:42:53|380</wrap>which are much stronger for the disciples. <wrap hide>396|00:42:53|500|00:43:01|020</wrap>So, I think you get the idea here, and you know, since you do have this on your screen, <wrap hide>397|00:43:01|660|00:43:06|480</wrap>you can freeze your screen at any time and simply study what I've said, <wrap hide>398|00:43:06|480|00:43:09|920</wrap>which is certainly not the complete story by any means. <wrap hide>399|00:43:09|980|00:43:15|300</wrap>You can study what I've said about the first, second and third decanate on the wheel of consciousness. <wrap hide>400|00:43:16|060|00:43:20|180</wrap>And you know, just to go up a little bit, if you want to freeze the screen here, <wrap hide>401|00:43:21|260|00:43:29|100</wrap>you can study what I've said about the Lemurian, Atlantean and Aryan, early Aryan stages of consciousness, <wrap hide>402|00:43:29|100|00:43:39|060</wrap>and how the different constellations and planets working in a more personal, elemental manner, <wrap hide>403|00:43:39|660|00:43:47|640</wrap>can affect the individual. Just freeze your screen and study it, or print it or copy it, you know, something of that nature. <wrap hide>404|00:43:48|920|00:43:53|480</wrap>Okay, well this has been sort of my unexpected plunge into this decanate work, <wrap hide>405|00:43:53|480|00:44:01|360</wrap>and the reason it was unexpected, in a way, D.K. began talking about the decanates a little bit earlier in Aries, <wrap hide>406|00:44:01|480|00:44:06|240</wrap>than he does in the other signs, where he seems to leave it towards the end. <wrap hide>407|00:44:07|400|00:44:14|280</wrap>And for that reason I was taken a little by surprise, so I had to excuse a few of the glitches in the beginning of the discussion. <wrap hide>408|00:44:15|500|00:44:19|640</wrap>I wanted to take out the material that I have on the decanates. <wrap hide>409|00:44:19|640|00:44:25|440</wrap>Some of us have thought about this long and hard, maybe not as long and hard as some have thought about it, <wrap hide>410|00:44:26|120|00:44:31|940</wrap>but it is an important sub-qualifier, this question of the decanates. <wrap hide>411|00:44:32|620|00:44:39|240</wrap>We all may know, let's say we're born in Aries, or with the Sun in Aries, or under Aries, with Aries rising, <wrap hide>412|00:44:39|360|00:44:43|460</wrap>but what section of Aries are we born in? <wrap hide>413|00:44:44|380|00:44:53|660</wrap>And there's even a way to make day faces and night faces of each one of the decanates. <wrap hide>414|00:44:54|640|00:45:01|860</wrap>So on the wheel, which is going counterclockwise, the first five degrees would be the day face, <wrap hide>415|00:45:02|060|00:45:04|420</wrap>and the second five degrees would be the night face. <wrap hide>416|00:45:04|880|00:45:12|120</wrap>I need to study a little bit more about that, but it seems that one is more expressive and one is more internal, or introverted, <wrap hide>417|00:45:12|120|00:45:18|080</wrap>and thus it goes from the second decanate from twenty to twenty-five, the day face from twenty-five to thirty, the night face. <wrap hide>418|00:45:19|040|00:45:23|800</wrap>And similarly for the third decanate from, oh, no excuse me, I made a mistake there. <wrap hide>419|00:45:24|040|00:45:29|860</wrap>From ten to fifteen in the second decanate is the day face, and fifteen to twenty the night face. <wrap hide>420|00:45:30|080|00:45:37|440</wrap>Then in the third decanate from twenty to twenty-five is the day face, and then from twenty-five to thirty the night face. <wrap hide>421|00:45:37|440|00:45:42|180</wrap>So much experiment needs to be done there as well as work with the <wrap hide>422|00:45:42|180|00:45:51|360</wrap>Dvadesamshas or D-W-A-D-S, whereby we divide the zodiac of 12 into the 30 <wrap hide>423|00:45:51|360|00:45:56|060</wrap>degrees of any sign and get two and a half degree sections, one two and a half <wrap hide>424|00:45:56|060|00:46:02|140</wrap>degree sections for every zodiacal increment of the sign. So 0 to two and a <wrap hide>425|00:46:02|140|00:46:09|320</wrap>half degrees is Aries Aries, two and a half degrees to five is Aries Taurus. I'm <wrap hide>426|00:46:09|320|00:46:12|560</wrap>not going to go... you know, you get the idea, right? Five degrees to seven and a half <wrap hide>427|00:46:12|560|00:46:18|480</wrap>degrees is Aries Gemini and so forth. So that is also a sub-qualifier and you <wrap hide>428|00:46:18|480|00:46:22|440</wrap>know it can begin to zero in on the specific type of energy which has built <wrap hide>429|00:46:22|440|00:46:27|580</wrap>the form of any Aries individual and so it goes through the other signs. Always <wrap hide>430|00:46:27|580|00:46:32|120</wrap>beginning with the sign itself... well there's... there's different ways of doing <wrap hide>431|00:46:32|120|00:46:36|940</wrap>it, for instance, if you begin with Taurus from 0 to two and a half degrees, <wrap hide>432|00:46:36|940|00:46:42|280</wrap>would be Taurus Taurus, and from two and a half degrees to five would be Taurus <wrap hide>433|00:46:42|280|00:46:46|880</wrap>Gemini, and eventually you get around at the very last decanate to Taurus sub <wrap hide>434|00:46:46|880|00:46:58|320</wrap>Aries. But some people always begin with Aries, and that would be another way of <wrap hide>435|00:46:58|320|00:47:05|000</wrap>operating. We have to test that out, of course. The final method of <wrap hide>436|00:47:05|000|00:47:12|160</wrap>refining and discriminating very minute differences between individuals would be <wrap hide>437|00:47:12|160|00:47:16|300</wrap>through a study of the degrees themselves, because each one of the 360 <wrap hide>438|00:47:16|300|00:47:21|560</wrap>degrees, at least according to the ancient Chaldean knowledge, would have <wrap hide>439|00:47:21|560|00:47:28|600</wrap>its own specific quality. And then each degree can be approached numerologically, <wrap hide>440|00:47:29|280|00:47:33|700</wrap>so there are a number of the different types of degrees in the zodiac which add <wrap hide>441|00:47:33|700|00:47:38|060</wrap>up to a one or to a two or to a three, and they all would have something in <wrap hide>442|00:47:38|060|00:47:43|300</wrap>common. So this is a more mathematical approach to discriminating the fine <wrap hide>443|00:47:43|300|00:47:48|640</wrap>points of identity. OK, but I hope I haven't, you know, been too confusing here. <wrap hide>444|00:47:49|320|00:47:59|280</wrap>I think I finally got into the subject, and here you can have a snapshot, if you <wrap hide>445|00:47:59|280|00:48:07|620</wrap>will, of this decanate chart where we see the extra zodiacal constellations: Aries <wrap hide>446|00:48:07|620|00:48:16|420</wrap>Aries sub Leo and orange Aries sub Sagittarius in this rich blue color. Then we have <wrap hide>447|00:48:16|420|00:48:21|580</wrap>Cassiopeia, Perseus—we have the names of these constellations and what <wrap quote>they are</wrap>— <wrap hide>448|00:48:21|580|00:48:28|220</wrap>and then we have the wheel of consciousness and then the wheel of <wrap hide>449|00:48:28|220|00:48:35|860</wrap>form as we reverse the decanate order on the wheel of consciousness. Here are some <wrap hide>450|00:48:35|860|00:48:42|100</wrap>of the things that Nicholas Nelenn has said. He is agreeing in general here, and <wrap hide>451|00:48:42|100|00:48:46|760</wrap>here are the Alan Leo decanates, and here are the Sepharial decanates. I really don't <wrap hide>452|00:48:46|760|00:48:54|400</wrap>know why there has been that reversal. I haven't ever read Alan Leo speaking <wrap hide>453|00:48:54|400|00:49:02|960</wrap>about Venus as the ruler of one of the decanates, but I'm certainly willing to <wrap hide>454|00:49:02|960|00:49:06|800</wrap>learn—certainly willing to learn. I don't have the book immediately at my <wrap hide>455|00:49:06|800|00:49:16|220</wrap>disposal. Maybe it is in his esoteric astrology book. I'm not sure, but let's <wrap hide>456|00:49:16|220|00:49:20|820</wrap>read one more time what the Tibetan has said, because he is the authority here. <wrap hide>457|00:49:21|500|00:49:25|360</wrap>The decanates can be dealt with in two ways according to the direction in which <wrap hide>458|00:49:25|360|00:49:28|520</wrap>a man is traveling upon the wheel and therefore entering the science, speaking <wrap hide>459|00:49:28|520|00:49:35|560</wrap>and symbols. In other words, entering from 30 to 20 as an average individual <wrap hide>460|00:49:36|540|00:49:42|220</wrap>and going apparently backwards in the clockwise manner, or entering from 0 to <wrap hide>461|00:49:42|220|00:49:47|600</wrap>10 when on the counterclockwise wheel and going on the wheel of consciousness. <wrap hide>462|00:49:47|780|00:49:50|960</wrap>If he enters Aries when on the common cross, he will come into the influence of <wrap hide>463|00:49:50|960|00:50:01|480</wrap>the Mars, the Sun, and Jupiter according to Sepharial. Now, you know, here is the <wrap hide>464|00:50:01|480|00:50:08|140</wrap>problem: you know, Sepharial is obviously not counting the decanates <wrap hide>465|00:50:08|140|00:50:15|560</wrap>backwards. He's counting the decanates in strict order. He is only thinking of <wrap hide>466|00:50:15|560|00:50:20|320</wrap>every sign as progressing from 0 to 30 degrees and not from 30 degrees to 0 <wrap hide>467|00:50:20|320|00:50:32|200</wrap>degrees. So then, do we put Mars in the 0 to 10 degrees and Jupiter or Venus in <wrap hide>468|00:50:32|200|00:50:38|060</wrap>the 20 to 30 degrees, or do we do as the Tibetan suggests: take the early ruler, <wrap hide>469|00:50:39|040|00:50:45|640</wrap>the first ruler, and assign it to the 20 to 30 degrees section, and the last ruler <wrap hide>470|00:50:45|640|00:50:53|240</wrap>on the wheel of form—assign that to the 0 to 10 degrees section? So there are <wrap hide>471|00:50:53|240|00:51:01|900</wrap>some ambiguities here, and this has to be worked out. The red Venus is my own <wrap hide>472|00:51:01|900|00:51:06|780</wrap>there because of the way Sepharial usually proceeds. This means conflict, <wrap hide>473|00:51:06|780|00:51:11|960</wrap>revelation, and successful satisfaction of desire and ambition as the eons pass <wrap hide>474|00:51:11|960|00:51:19|240</wrap>away, and that, you know, that makes perfect sense. We understand why D.K. <wrap hide>475|00:51:20|500|00:51:24|820</wrap>assigns these qualities to these planets. When he reorients himself and mounts the <wrap hide>476|00:51:24|820|00:51:33|140</wrap>fixed cross, he comes under the influence—whoops—he comes under the <wrap hide>477|00:51:33|140|00:51:39|140</wrap>influence of Jupiter, the Sun, and Mars. Now that's in the ordinary— <wrap hide>478|00:51:40|080|00:51:45|880</wrap>that's in the reversed wheel progression on the wheel of consciousness. Now it's a <wrap hide>479|00:51:45|880|00:51:51|720</wrap>little strange because, you know, normally you would think that Mars would <wrap hide>480|00:51:51|720|00:51:56|340</wrap>be the ruler of the first decanate, which is sub Aries, and Jupiter the ruler of the <wrap hide>481|00:51:56|340|00:52:02|860</wrap>third decanate, which is sub Sagittarius. But the Tibetan changes this, so he <wrap hide>482|00:52:02|860|00:52:06|600</wrap>really puts Jupiter in the first decanate. He comes under the influence of <wrap hide>483|00:52:06|600|00:52:11|560</wrap>Jupiter, the Sun, and Mars, for the initiate and the disciple culminates his career <wrap hide>484|00:52:11|560|00:52:16|560</wrap>in any of the signs with a final and dominant struggle in a struggle to <wrap hide>485|00:52:16|560|00:52:23|400</wrap>dominate lower forces and fight. Now, here is the unusual statement: I would hear <wrap hide>486|00:52:23|400|00:52:26|840</wrap>remarked that Alan Leo had a glimpse of the inner significance of the decanates <wrap hide>487|00:52:26|840|00:52:31|860</wrap>when he assigned Mars, the Sun, and Venus to the three decanates. Well, maybe he did, <wrap hide>488|00:52:31|860|00:52:37|520</wrap>and I'm no one to doubt the Tibetan, but I remember it otherwise, and I know that <wrap hide>489|00:52:37|520|00:52:43|560</wrap>Sepharial would be working with Venus in the third decanate because he always <wrap hide>490|00:52:43|560|00:52:50|840</wrap>proceeds inward towards the geocentric Earth according to the length of the <wrap hide>491|00:52:50|840|00:52:56|740</wrap>period of the planet involved, including the Sun. So the way that Sepharial <wrap hide>492|00:52:56|740|00:53:03|260</wrap>proceeds is outward, starting with the outermost—none of the trans-Saturnian <wrap hide>493|00:53:03|260|00:53:07|000</wrap>planets. He starts with Saturn, then he goes to Jupiter because it's a smaller <wrap hide>494|00:53:07|000|00:53:12|340</wrap>orbit and takes less time, then he goes to Mars—still smaller orbit and less <wrap hide>495|00:53:12|340|00:53:17|960</wrap>time—then he goes to the Sun, which geocentrically has a period of one year, <wrap hide>496|00:53:17|960|00:53:22|960</wrap>whereas Mars has a period of two years from the geocentric perspective. Then <wrap hide>497|00:53:22|960|00:53:33|460</wrap>from Mars, he skips the Earth and goes to Venus, then he goes to Mercury, <wrap hide>498|00:53:33|460|00:53:40|320</wrap>then he goes to the Moon, and that is in order of the orbital periods. So when <wrap hide>499|00:53:40|320|00:53:43|880</wrap>we're looking—you know, don't want to beat a dead horse here, but I tend to do <wrap hide>500|00:53:43|880|00:53:53|980</wrap>so—when he is offering these decanates, Mars would be a longer orbit <wrap hide>501|00:53:53|980|00:54:00|260</wrap>than the Sun and Venus—not Jupiter would be the longer orbit, or would be the <wrap hide>502|00:54:00|260|00:54:05|320</wrap>shorter orbit. So Mars is longer than the Sun, the Sun is longer than Venus, but the <wrap hide>503|00:54:05|320|00:54:08|560</wrap>Sun's orbit from the geocentric perspective is not longer than that of <wrap hide>504|00:54:08|560|00:54:13|460</wrap>Jupiter, and that's what the Tibetan says he has chosen, whereas I do remember that <wrap hide>505|00:54:13|460|00:54:19|820</wrap>Leo really chose Mars, Sun, and Jupiter and not Mars, Sun, and Venus. So that has to be <wrap hide>506|00:54:19|820|00:54:27|060</wrap>worked out, but I don't think there's any loss there. The idea here is that Venus <wrap hide>507|00:54:27|060|00:54:34|360</wrap>represents the solar angel, and when the man is no longer mental and lower <wrap hide>508|00:54:34|360|00:54:38|440</wrap>personal, he's becoming aspirational and higher personal and integrating under <wrap hide>509|00:54:38|440|00:54:46|860</wrap>the soul. He's turning around, and Venus as the solar angel with its power is <wrap hide>510|00:54:46|860|00:54:51|600</wrap>coming into focus, and the man is orienting himself towards Venus. Even <wrap hide>511|00:54:51|600|00:54:56|920</wrap>though Venus is in detriment in Aries, it seems to be quite important in this <wrap hide>512|00:54:56|920|00:55:04|980</wrap>first area—this first degree, first ten degrees—because there is a reorientation. <wrap hide>513|00:55:04|980|00:55:12|140</wrap>Remember that according to the Tibetan, if we go to page 472 and we look <wrap hide>514|00:55:12|140|00:55:22|820</wrap>at crises, we will find the crisis of the soul that Aries in fact does rule—a <wrap hide>515|00:55:22|820|00:55:26|840</wrap>crisis of orientation and a kind of reversal where man begins to face the <wrap hide>516|00:55:26|840|00:55:35|180</wrap>soul. The soul is Venus, and when we look at the decanates here for the <wrap hide>517|00:55:35|180|00:55:41|700</wrap>aspirational, higher personal man, we are reorienting towards the soul. We are <wrap hide>518|00:55:41|700|00:55:46|720</wrap>bringing in the new ideas under Mercury in general, and we are reorienting <wrap hide>519|00:55:46|720|00:55:54|540</wrap>towards the soul, which is always symbolized by Venus, the solar angel. So <wrap hide>520|00:55:54|540|00:55:58|720</wrap>we're seeking to grow beyond the form—that's the Jupiter part of it and the <wrap hide>521|00:55:58|720|00:56:08|020</wrap>Venus—and under Venus, we reorient towards the energy of the solar angel. <wrap hide>522|00:56:08|840|00:56:14|020</wrap>Okay, I think that's fair enough. Now you have to test this out in your own life, <wrap hide>523|00:56:14|020|00:56:20|760</wrap>obviously. You know, the way to do it is experiment with the energies and just <wrap hide>524|00:56:20|760|00:56:27|580</wrap>see which of these energies seem to be sub-rulers for you in a decanate—in a <wrap hide>525|00:56:27|580|00:56:34|760</wrap>decanate sense—and maybe more than one will come in. You should look at the <wrap hide>526|00:56:34|760|00:56:39|980</wrap>sub-sign of the triplicity in which you are born. You should look at the ruler of <wrap hide>527|00:56:39|980|00:56:47|800</wrap>the sub-sign—usually the orthodox ruler. You should definitely, since you are on <wrap hide>528|00:56:47|800|00:56:53|900</wrap>the wheel of consciousness, look at the ruler of the decanate which the Tibetan <wrap hide>529|00:56:53|900|00:57:01|240</wrap>has assigned when it differs from what Alan Leo has given, or on occasion what <wrap hide>530|00:57:01|240|00:57:06|100</wrap>Sepharial has given when the Tibetan accepts Sepharial's as the best <wrap hide>531|00:57:06|100|00:57:12|340</wrap>expression. Whoa, okay, I got into something here that I didn't know I would <wrap hide>532|00:57:12|340|00:57:17|320</wrap>get into, but hopefully there's some clarity there and that you can see the <wrap hide>533|00:57:17|320|00:57:21|400</wrap>charts on your screen and you can understand what I'm attempting to drive <wrap hide>534|00:57:21|400|00:57:28|740</wrap>at. This is not as complete, of course, as it could be or would be, but I <wrap hide>535|00:57:28|740|00:57:31|900</wrap>don't want to get excessively tedious about this because we're trying to move <wrap hide>536|00:57:31|900|00:57:35|680</wrap>through the books, and it looks like it's going to take, you know, 300 of these <wrap hide>537|00:57:35|680|00:57:43|320</wrap>programs to do that anyway, maybe more, hopefully not. All right, friends, let us do <wrap hide>538|00:57:43|320|00:57:48|600</wrap>The Great Invocation together, as we always do. <wrap hide>539|00:57:54|760|00:58:00|260</wrap>All right, so we begin with the Om. <wrap hide>540|00:58:10|340|00:58:17|820</wrap>From the point of light within the mind of God, let light stream forth into the <wrap hide>541|00:58:17|820|00:58:22|320</wrap>minds of men. Let light descend on earth. <wrap hide>542|00:58:25|300|00:58:30|740</wrap>From the point of love within the heart of God, let love stream forth into the <wrap hide>543|00:58:30|740|00:58:34|640</wrap>hearts of men. May Christ return to earth. <wrap hide>544|00:58:40|000|00:58:44|860</wrap>From the center where the will of God is known, let purpose guide the little <wrap hide>545|00:58:44|860|00:58:55|360</wrap>wills of men, the purpose which the Masters know and serve. From the center <wrap hide>546|00:58:55|360|00:59:01|000</wrap>which we call the race of men, let the plan of love and light work out, and may <wrap hide>547|00:59:01|000|00:59:13|520</wrap>it seal the door where evil dwells. Let light and love and power restore the <wrap hide>548|00:59:13|520|00:59:15|380</wrap>plan on earth. <wrap hide>549|00:59:56|460|01:00:05|580</wrap>Okay, friends, we have reached the point almost exactly, and I guess we haven't <wrap hide>550|01:00:05|580|01:00:17|340</wrap>gone very far in the process here. I guess we are simply... we've simply dealt <wrap hide>551|01:00:17|340|01:00:25|180</wrap>with one paragraph and attempted to expand that paragraph. If I can get my <wrap hide>552|01:00:25|180|01:00:30|620</wrap>computer to function here properly, we are ending then Esoteric Astrology <wrap hide>553|01:00:30|620|01:00:41|740</wrap>Adventure. Okay, this is the... well, it's coming. No, I thought it was... I thought it <wrap hide>554|01:00:41|740|01:00:49|860</wrap>was... well, it seems to be... it seems to be operating in an interesting manner. Yes, <wrap hide>555|01:00:49|860|01:00:57|780</wrap>okay, so basically we are simply ending at the page we began, and I will <wrap hide>556|01:00:57|780|01:01:02|100</wrap>straighten all this out. I'm not going to take your time here to get these page <wrap hide>557|01:01:02|100|01:01:10|960</wrap>numbers correct. So for the time being, my computer is doing strange things. All <wrap hide>558|01:01:10|960|01:01:16|260</wrap>right, we will talk to you soon, and we start with number 50 very soon. All right, <wrap hide>559|01:01:16|260|01:01:17|520</wrap>talk to you soon. Bye-bye.
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