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-<wrap hide>1|00:00:03|160|00:00:04|360</wrap>Hello everybody. <wrap hide>2|00:00:05|800|00:00:09|660</wrap>We are continuing with Esoteric Astrology adventure number 59. <wrap hide>3|00:00:09|980|00:00:15|580</wrap>We are concluding the work in Pisces, and we're dealing with the Decanates. <wrap hide>4|00:00:16|520|00:00:20|780</wrap>And I would like to read again. <wrap hide>5|00:00:21|660|00:00:28|780</wrap>It is a very fluid area, and in some ways one does not know literally whether one is coming <wrap hide>6|00:00:28|780|00:00:29|560</wrap>or going. <wrap hide>7|00:00:30|380|00:00:38|580</wrap>In other words, when Leo and Sepharial give their decanate rulers, we know that unlike <wrap hide>8|00:00:38|580|00:00:46|940</wrap>the Tibetan, they are not dealing with a retrogression through the zodiac. <wrap hide>9|00:00:47|220|00:00:54|360</wrap>So when they say that this is the ruler of the first decanate, they definitely mean zero <wrap hide>10|00:00:54|360|00:00:55|260</wrap>to ten degrees. <wrap hide>11|00:00:55|540|00:00:57|280</wrap>The second decanate is always ten to twenty. <wrap hide>12|00:00:58|010|00:01:01|580</wrap>And the third decanate they mean twenty to thirty. <wrap hide>13|00:01:02|540|00:01:06|080</wrap>So they arrange their planets in the order of that. <wrap hide>14|00:01:06|300|00:01:11|200</wrap>Now Sepharial has given Saturn, Jupiter, Mars. <wrap hide>15|00:01:12|140|00:01:16|980</wrap>However, Saturn for the first, Jupiter for the second, and Mars for the third. <wrap hide>16|00:01:17|100|00:01:22|460</wrap>However, the Tibetan would suggest that people on the ordinary wheel of form are entering <wrap hide>17|00:01:23|040|00:01:26|840</wrap>via the third decanate, which for them is the first. <wrap hide>18|00:01:26|840|00:01:34|360</wrap>So the order of their progression would be, in Sepharial's terms, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn. <wrap hide>19|00:01:35|200|00:01:46|740</wrap>Alan Leo gives Jupiter, then the Moon, and then Mars. <wrap hide>20|00:01:47|140|00:01:48|140</wrap>Jupiter, the Moon, and Mars. <wrap hide>21|00:01:48|240|00:01:50|020</wrap>Let's check that just to make sure. <wrap hide>22|00:01:50|980|00:01:52|780</wrap>The sixfold development of Pisces. <wrap hide>23|00:01:55|660|00:02:00|280</wrap>Going up here, that's quite a bit. <wrap hide>24|00:02:01|320|00:02:03|300</wrap>Okay, yes, Jupiter, the Moon, and Mars. <wrap hide>25|00:02:03|680|00:02:07|080</wrap>Yes, Alan Leo gives this: Jupiter, the Moon, and Mars. <wrap hide>26|00:02:07|620|00:02:17|920</wrap>However, it is also possible for us to consider that his three decanates are in fact accurate, <wrap hide>27|00:02:17|920|00:02:25|860</wrap>but we would enter on the ordinary wheel: Mars, the Moon, and Jupiter. <wrap hide>28|00:02:27|160|00:02:36|160</wrap>So often D.K. emphasizes the exoteric nature of Sepharial's attributions of decanates, but <wrap hide>29|00:02:36|160|00:02:43|480</wrap>he does not totally dismiss them, and we can find, if we have considering D.K., Alan Leo, <wrap hide>30|00:02:43|480|00:02:51|200</wrap>and Sepharial, except when D.K. absolutely repudiates the choices of the other two, that <wrap hide>31|00:02:51|200|00:02:56|900</wrap>there is something to be said for the decanates which they assign, because after all they didn't <wrap hide>32|00:02:56|900|00:02:57|380</wrap>invent them. <wrap hide>33|00:02:57|520|00:02:58|640</wrap>They are ancient systems. <wrap hide>34|00:02:59|340|00:03:09|900</wrap>Sepharial's system is a Chaldean system, and Alan Leo's system is an Indian system, and <wrap hide>35|00:03:09|900|00:03:16|020</wrap>they are very ancient. And if we check out Alan Leo's rulerships by the appearance of <wrap hide>36|00:03:16|020|00:03:23|040</wrap>people, we will see that, let us say with Aries, the first decanate is Aries-Aries, then second <wrap hide>37|00:03:23|040|00:03:30|640</wrap>from 10 to 20 is Aries-Leo, then from 20 to 30, Aries-Sagittarius. And given the normal <wrap hide>38|00:03:30|640|00:03:37|420</wrap>rulers, which would be Mars for Aries-Aries, the Sun for Aries-Leo, and Jupiter for Aries- <wrap hide>39|00:03:37|420|00:03:44|780</wrap>Sagittarius, the appearance of the person does bear this out. And appearance is not a slight <wrap hide>40|00:03:44|780|00:03:52|520</wrap>thing; it has to do not strictly with physical matters, it has to do with inner energy patterns <wrap hide>41|00:03:52|520|00:03:56|720</wrap>which work out as physical appearance, so we do know there is something there. <wrap hide>42|00:03:57|380|00:04:03|700</wrap>So when we're studying the decanates, it's not just a question of choosing one correct <wrap hide>43|00:04:04|740|00:04:05|420</wrap>system. <wrap hide>44|00:04:06|120|00:04:12|280</wrap>There are several systems, each of which has their points of value. <wrap hide>45|00:04:12|440|00:04:17|420</wrap>Naturally, from the esoteric and psychological spiritual point of view, we want to use the <wrap hide>46|00:04:17|420|00:04:22|740</wrap>Tibetan system because it deals most with the evolution of the soul, but we cannot discount <wrap hide>47|00:04:22|740|00:04:29|360</wrap>Sepharial except when D.K. tells us that it is strictly inaccurate, and we certainly cannot <wrap hide>48|00:04:29|360|00:04:34|980</wrap>discount Alan Leo even when he differs from Master D.K., because that ancient Indian system <wrap hide>49|00:04:34|980|00:04:43|180</wrap>does, at least somewhat exoterically, tell us what types of energies can be found in the <wrap hide>50|00:04:43|180|00:04:43|920</wrap>various decanates. <wrap hide>51|00:04:44|440|00:04:54|340</wrap>Now, what I would like to do is to read again this sometimes very puzzling <wrap hide>52|00:04:54|340|00:05:00|640</wrap>paragraph over which I have labored and tried to be as clear as I possibly can, but D.K.'s <wrap hide>53|00:05:00|640|00:05:07|300</wrap>writing itself is full of hints, and he is not writing with the concrete mind; he's writing <wrap hide>54|00:05:08|460|00:05:13|160</wrap>to evoke the intuition of the reader. <wrap hide>55|00:05:14|500|00:05:15|960</wrap>So I'm going to read this over again. <wrap hide>56|00:05:16|460|00:05:21|040</wrap><wrap quote>The same symbolic mode of interpretation must govern also our understanding of the three <wrap hide>57|00:05:21|040|00:05:23|080</wrap>decanates.</wrap> in Pisces, of course. <wrap hide>58|00:05:23|760|00:05:29|020</wrap><wrap quote>Both Leo</wrap>—Alan Leo—<wrap quote>and Sepharial give a list of the decanates and between them there is <wrap hide>59|00:05:29|020|00:05:30|500</wrap>much resemblance</wrap> <wrap hide>60|00:05:31|400|00:05:36|000</wrap>In other words, both of them have Mars and both of them have Jupiter, but not in the same <wrap hide>61|00:05:36|000|00:05:37|980</wrap>places necessarily, especially for Jupiter. <wrap hide>62|00:05:39|180|00:05:43|220</wrap><wrap quote>but there is, however, an important difference.</wrap> <wrap hide>63|00:05:43|640|00:05:50|280</wrap><wrap quote>Leo approaches the closer</wrap> but not exactly close, not exactly accurate, <wrap quote>the closer <wrap hide>64|00:05:50|280|00:05:56|700</wrap>to the esoteric interpretation of astrology whilst Sepharial is purely exoteric.</wrap> <wrap hide>65|00:05:57|320|00:06:02|440</wrap>This seems to be a generalization—a generality—that he is almost always exoteric, although <wrap hide>66|00:06:02|440|00:06:10|640</wrap>occasionally D.K. chooses the Sepharial decanates, as in Gemini and maybe in Cancer, I think, as <wrap hide>67|00:06:10|640|00:06:16|760</wrap>indicating the truly esoteric point of view. <wrap hide>68|00:06:17|280|00:06:21|100</wrap><wrap quote>According to Sepharial, the three decanates are governed by Saturn—Jupiter—Mars,</wrap> <wrap hide>69|00:06:21|220|00:06:26|000</wrap>So that would be the first, second and third decanate, or if we reverse them: Mars, Jupiter, Saturn. <wrap hide>70|00:06:26|860|00:06:31|140</wrap>The three decanates are governed by Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, <wrap quote>presenting opportunity to work <wrap hide>71|00:06:31|140|00:06:36|580</wrap>off karma</wrap>—that's Saturn—<wrap quote>and to be successful in so doing</wrap>—that's always Jupiter, success— <wrap hide>72|00:06:37|320|00:06:42|420</wrap><wrap quote>and indicating the method employed, that of conflict and of war.</wrap> <wrap hide>73|00:06:42|420|00:06:48|420</wrap>So we've seen some terrible things happen during the Age of Pisces, and especially as <wrap hide>74|00:06:48|420|00:06:58|480</wrap>we approach the latter part of the Age of Pisces, in which Mars in the third decanate <wrap hide>75|00:06:58|480|00:07:00|480</wrap>is considered so potent. <wrap hide>76|00:07:00|700|00:07:02|600</wrap>It has been a time of many wars. <wrap hide>77|00:07:02|820|00:07:10|540</wrap>The warring 20th century as a kind of climax. Let's hope that the 21st century is not even <wrap hide>78|00:07:11|400|00:07:13|000</wrap>more potent in relation to war. <wrap hide>79|00:07:14|100|00:07:16|740</wrap><wrap quote>Leo gives us Jupiter, the Moon and Mars.</wrap> <wrap hide>80|00:07:16|960|00:07:21|680</wrap>You see, Jupiter rules Pisces, of course. The Moon rules Cancer, which is the Pisces-Cancer <wrap hide>81|00:07:21|680|00:07:25|000</wrap>decanate, and Mars rules the Pisces-Scorpio decanate. <wrap hide>82|00:07:25|480|00:07:28|120</wrap>So it's just following the system—that's what he does. <wrap hide>83|00:07:28|820|00:07:36|940</wrap><wrap quote>He indicates, therefore, the success</wrap> of Jupiter, <wrap quote>which is incident to proved discipleship and <wrap hide>84|00:07:36|940|00:07:38|960</wrap>consequent readiness for initiation,</wrap> <wrap hide>85|00:07:38|960|00:07:50|980</wrap>Now this success will be operative both upon the ordinary wheel and upon the wheel of consciousness. <wrap hide>86|00:07:51|320|00:07:56|600</wrap>See, the individual is moving backwards: Mars, Moon and Jupiter. So in the third decanate, <wrap hide>87|00:07:56|600|00:08:02|340</wrap>which is, in the normal order, the first, there will be some sort of success. And as we begin <wrap hide>88|00:08:02|340|00:08:10|880</wrap>to reverse the wheel, we have Jupiter indicating the kind of success in relation to discipleship <wrap hide>89|00:08:10|880|00:08:12|620</wrap>which the Tibetan is discussing. <wrap hide>90|00:08:13|460|00:08:22|060</wrap>See, we may have the same rulers here if we go moving counterclockwise, moving clockwise <wrap hide>91|00:08:22|060|00:08:22|920</wrap>or counterclockwise. <wrap hide>92|00:08:22|920|00:08:31|860</wrap>Actually, I've just realized here that by listing these as 0 to 10, 10 to 20, 20 to <wrap hide>93|00:08:31|860|00:08:39|520</wrap>30, that in a way it appears that for the ordinary wheel of form I am moving counterclockwise. <wrap hide>94|00:08:39|520|00:08:46|720</wrap>But don't pay attention to the way the arrows seem to be moving—they're simply moving backwards <wrap hide>95|00:08:46|720|00:08:53|220</wrap>through the degrees towards the first 10 degrees, and then they begin again with the <wrap hide>96|00:08:53|220|00:09:01|620</wrap>first 10 degrees and move forward towards the last 10 degrees, where the blue star can <wrap hide>97|00:09:01|620|00:09:05|220</wrap>be found indicating spiritual results. <wrap hide>98|00:09:07|680|00:09:16|020</wrap>Yes, I guess there's no way to put this down in a totally clear manner. It is clear enough <wrap hide>99|00:09:16|020|00:09:28|320</wrap>here, and if you check this, you will see that the inner wheel is the wheel of form, and it <wrap hide>100|00:09:28|320|00:09:32|120</wrap>is moving in a clockwise direction. <wrap hide>101|00:09:32|320|00:09:37|100</wrap>The wheel of consciousness here we can portray is moving in the counterclockwise direction. <wrap hide>102|00:09:37|220|00:09:42|260</wrap>This is a diagram prepared by Nicholas Nillon, which is a compendium of a number of points <wrap hide>103|00:09:42|260|00:09:42|720</wrap>of view. <wrap hide>104|00:09:42|720|00:09:48|920</wrap>In certain particulars, Nicholas differs from my choices and from the choices of Stephen <wrap hide>105|00:09:48|920|00:09:49|300</wrap>Pugh. <wrap hide>106|00:09:50|360|00:09:57|320</wrap>Those are the theorists who I think have paid the most attention to decanate rulership. Also <wrap hide>107|00:09:57|320|00:09:58|340</wrap>in Denmark, Holger <wrap hide>108|00:09:58|880|00:10:05|100</wrap>Stansberg has done a lot of work in this area, and he differs in certain particulars as well. <wrap hide>109|00:10:05|100|00:10:11|140</wrap>And there's no way that we can completely confirm the accuracy of choices. <wrap hide>110|00:10:11|440|00:10:19|440</wrap>Even D.K. leaves certain open possibilities, certain ambiguities, and we just have to live <wrap hide>111|00:10:19|440|00:10:19|980</wrap>with that. <wrap hide>112|00:10:21|440|00:10:27|220</wrap>Now, continuing with the reading: <wrap quote>Leo gives us Jupiter, the Moon and Mars. <wrap hide>1|00:00:03|160|00:00:04|360</wrap>He indicates, therefore, the success which is incident to proved discipleship</wrap> <wrap hide>114|00:10:32|700|00:10:39|200</wrap>So in the first decanate of Pisces, we will find examples of proved discipleship. <wrap hide>115|00:10:41|120|00:10:49|300</wrap>Examples in the first decan of proven <wrap quote>discipleship and consequent readiness for initiation,</wrap> <wrap hide>116|00:10:50|900|00:10:56|400</wrap>I think some of this initiation will come in later decanates, although you can take <wrap hide>117|00:10:56|400|00:11:01|860</wrap>initiation really in any decanate. And I'm sure when we look at the biographies and astrology <wrap hide>118|00:11:01|860|00:11:06|400</wrap>of initiates, we will see that they've been born in all the decanates and have taken initiation, <wrap hide>119|00:11:06|400|00:11:17|820</wrap>but some initiatory potential existing in the last two decans also. <wrap hide>120|00:11:18|500|00:11:23|800</wrap><wrap quote>the seeing of the vision with which Jupiter rewards the disciple,</wrap> <wrap hide>121|00:11:23|960|00:11:26|740</wrap>Now it can be a vision of the Sun, or it can simply be the vision. <wrap hide>122|00:11:26|740|00:11:32|200</wrap>If it is the vision, it is still operative in the first decanate. <wrap hide>123|00:11:32|420|00:11:37|180</wrap>If it is a vision of the Sun, we have in the second decanate Vulcan giving way to the Sun <wrap hide>124|00:11:37|180|00:11:45|000</wrap>and hints about the third decanate which tell us that only the Sun remains as the ruler <wrap hide>125|00:11:45|000|00:11:45|880</wrap>of everything. <wrap hide>126|00:11:46|180|00:11:52|000</wrap>So there is some Sun potential in the second decanate and in the third decanate in the <wrap hide>127|00:11:52|000|00:11:53|540</wrap>clockwise or normal order. <wrap hide>128|00:11:54|540|00:12:01|680</wrap><wrap quote>and the experience which Vulcan confers.</wrap>—well, it's usually the Moon conveying experience. <wrap hide>129|00:12:03|540|00:12:11|460</wrap>Usually the Moon conveys experience, but we also remember we were discussing the Earth, <wrap hide>130|00:12:12|100|00:12:19|180</wrap>and among the rulers of the mutable cross, the esoteric ruler of Earth in relation to <wrap hide>131|00:12:19|180|00:12:21|700</wrap>the Leshteros provided the field of experience. <wrap hide>132|00:12:22|380|00:12:39|120</wrap>So both Earth and Moon provide experience, but Vulcan is substituted for the Moon. <wrap hide>133|00:12:40|120|00:12:42|240</wrap><wrap quote>Vulcan has been hitherto hidden, <wrap hide>134|00:12:42|900|00:12:49|140</wrap>but its influence has steadily superseded all lunar control,</wrap> <wrap hide>135|00:12:49|320|00:12:54|540</wrap>This I have discussed because lunar control is instinctive and irrational, and Vulcan has <wrap hide>136|00:12:54|540|00:13:01|980</wrap>to do with purpose and will and full consciousness, at least in the later stages of the Vulcanian <wrap hide>137|00:13:01|980|00:13:02|640</wrap>experience. <wrap hide>138|00:13:03|320|00:13:06|660</wrap><wrap quote><wrap hide>139|00:13:06|820|00:13:11|780</wrap>for the personality or form side of life</wrap>—and let's call that the Moon—<wrap quote>is lost to sight <wrap hide>140|00:13:11|780|00:13:14|780</wrap>in the radiance of the Sun, the soul.</wrap> <wrap hide>141|00:13:15|660|00:13:19|660</wrap>So Vulcan and the Sun are one, you see, at this point. <wrap hide>142|00:13:20|760|00:13:24|320</wrap>Vulcan—because he's still talking about the second decanate, isn't he? <wrap hide>143|00:13:24|720|00:13:26|440</wrap>Vulcan and the Sun are one. <wrap hide>144|00:13:26|860|00:13:33|960</wrap>So we have a progression from the Moon to Vulcan to the radiance of the Sun. <wrap hide>145|00:13:33|960|00:13:44|140</wrap>So wherever Vulcan is found, there can be lunar imputations, but there are also solar imputations. <wrap hide>146|00:13:45|300|00:13:47|440</wrap>Vulcan is a planet of blinding light, I say. <wrap hide>147|00:13:48|320|00:13:49|100</wrap>Represented by Vulcan. <wrap hide>148|00:13:49|480|00:13:49|560</wrap>Okay. <wrap hide>149|00:13:50|680|00:13:57|200</wrap><wrap quote>The light of Vulcan and the light of the Sun are one light</wrap> so this does relate to the second <wrap hide>150|00:13:57|200|00:13:57|540</wrap>decan. <wrap hide>151|00:13:57|660|00:13:58|480</wrap>It definitely does. <wrap hide>152|00:13:59|390|00:14:06|500</wrap>So this statement relates to the second decan, and these three—now he's calling on Mercury <wrap hide>153|00:14:06|500|00:14:12|040</wrap>here because Mercury is a falling planet, but it's not ruling any decanate particularly. <wrap hide>154|00:14:13|220|00:14:25|040</wrap>Except that, kind of interestingly, I just realized it: Mercury is the hierarchical ruler of Scorpio. <wrap hide>155|00:14:25|960|00:14:34|040</wrap>So perhaps the presence of Mercury in the third or Scorpio decanate is possible. <wrap hide>156|00:14:34|720|00:14:39|600</wrap>Presence of Mercury in the Scorpio decan is possible. <wrap hide>157|00:14:40|560|00:14:45|740</wrap><wrap quote>and these three—Mercury, Vulcan and the Sun—stand for a synthesis and a radiance <wrap hide>158|00:14:46|160|00:14:52|000</wrap>which eventually dims the light of Mercury and it “falls” into the background</wrap> <wrap hide>159|00:14:52|000|00:14:56|420</wrap>Now, is this happening in the second decanate or the third decanate, or just in general? <wrap hide>160|00:14:56|980|00:15:05|660</wrap>Is this happening in general, or in the second or third decan? <wrap hide>161|00:15:06|060|00:15:08|980</wrap><wrap quote>and Vulcan too becomes invisible and only the Sun remains.</wrap> <wrap hide>162|00:15:09|240|00:15:14|480</wrap>So if Vulcan is in the second decanate, we have to be talking about the Sun in relation <wrap hide>163|00:15:14|480|00:15:15|900</wrap>to the second decanate, definitely. <wrap hide>164|00:15:16|240|00:15:22|980</wrap>We have to be talking of the Sun in relation to the second decan, but this does not mean <wrap hide>165|00:15:22|980|00:15:28|160</wrap>that we will not or cannot talk about it in relation to the third decanate, which is ruled <wrap hide>166|00:15:28|160|00:15:32|980</wrap>by Cepheus, the king, the king of Shambala. <wrap hide>167|00:15:33|260|00:15:39|800</wrap>It all ends with the king and Shambala, and as I have said, Pisces is a very Shambolic <wrap hide>168|00:15:39|800|00:15:44|540</wrap>sign, and Vulcan too becomes invisible, and only the Sun remains. <wrap hide>169|00:15:44|540|00:15:49|320</wrap>Now he seems to have been talking about the second decanate, but he has a way of talking <wrap hide>170|00:15:49|320|00:15:55|500</wrap>where he seems to cross borders, cross lines, and he seems that it's possible that he's <wrap hide>171|00:15:55|500|00:16:01|480</wrap>talking into the third decanate in the counterclockwise order as well. <wrap hide>172|00:16:02|020|00:16:04|840</wrap>And Vulcan too becomes invisible, and only the Sun remains. <wrap hide>173|00:16:05|180|00:16:11|780</wrap>So definitely the second decan is involved here, because otherwise he wouldn't be mentioning <wrap hide>174|00:16:11|780|00:16:12|860</wrap>Vulcan, would he? <wrap hide>175|00:16:13|580|00:16:16|880</wrap><wrap quote>We have consequently a vision of the Sun,</wrap> <wrap hide>176|00:16:17|620|00:16:19|540</wrap>Now Jupiter provides the vision. <wrap hide>177|00:16:22|220|00:16:27|660</wrap>So the vision of the Sun and a great vision of light, we shall see light, etc., and that <wrap hide>178|00:16:27|660|00:16:36|960</wrap>it's Jupiterian and this vision can be the Sun which eventuates in the second, whoops, <wrap hide>179|00:16:36|960|00:16:43|660</wrap>eventuates in the second decan or even in the third by implication. <wrap hide>180|00:16:44|780|00:16:46|600</wrap>Okay, it's a great vision of light. <wrap hide>181|00:16:46|720|00:16:49|120</wrap>So we have the vision of the Sun provided by Jupiter in the first decanate. <wrap hide>182|00:16:49|120|00:16:54|740</wrap>We have <wrap quote>the experience of the personality</wrap> which is Vulcan Moon <wrap quote>and effort, which <wrap hide>183|00:16:54|740|00:16:57|940</wrap>is the mode of attainment governed by Mars.</wrap> <wrap hide>184|00:16:58|040|00:17:04|500</wrap>But effort towards what? As I have said, it is effort towards a great solar synthesis <wrap hide>185|00:17:04|500|00:17:12|100</wrap>which may prevail in relation to Pisces because Pisces and Aries in a way are going to be <wrap hide>186|00:17:12|100|00:17:12|900</wrap>the same sign. <wrap hide>187|00:17:13|040|00:17:19|640</wrap>So the great synthesis, the final synthesis of Pisces is the beginning of the initial <wrap hide>188|00:17:19|640|00:17:26|500</wrap>synthesis of Aries wherein the Brahman or the great absolute being or at least the one <wrap hide>189|00:17:26|500|00:17:28|220</wrap>being is realized. <wrap hide>190|00:17:28|480|00:17:31|500</wrap>You see how subtle this thing about the decanates really is. <wrap hide>191|00:17:31|500|00:17:36|440</wrap>D.K. is absolutely not using the concrete mind per se. <wrap hide>192|00:17:37|340|00:17:48|180</wrap>He is attempting to call upon our intuition and much is left to us as we attempt to understand <wrap hide>193|00:17:48|180|00:17:49|980</wrap>exactly what he's saying. <wrap hide>194|00:17:50|220|00:17:57|360</wrap>So I wanted to reread that because when I finished last night I realized that there's <wrap hide>195|00:17:57|360|00:17:59|960</wrap>more clarification to bring here. <wrap hide>196|00:17:59|960|00:18:08|380</wrap>Where I was, well here's the landscape view of Pisces and we were dealing with three constellations <wrap hide>197|00:18:08|380|00:18:13|960</wrap>which apply to all Piscean people but the band which we are attributing to the first <wrap hide>198|00:18:13|960|00:18:22|420</wrap>decanate, binding via consciousness or the power of life itself, the two fishes, we're <wrap hide>199|00:18:22|420|00:18:26|020</wrap>dealing with the chained woman, Andromeda in the second decanate. <wrap hide>200|00:18:26|020|00:18:34|620</wrap>She, as matter, she is rightfully chained; as soul she must be liberated, and then Cepheus <wrap hide>201|00:18:34|620|00:18:35|340</wrap>the king. <wrap hide>202|00:18:36|220|00:18:42|600</wrap>Okay, so there are some, you know, Pisces is a very subtle sign and naturally therefore <wrap hide>203|00:18:42|600|00:18:46|700</wrap>there are implications which are not exactly straightforward. <wrap hide>204|00:18:49|560|00:18:52|140</wrap>The six-fold development of Pisces, that's where I was. <wrap hide>205|00:18:52|700|00:19:05|460</wrap>Now coming down here I had shown us, I need to repeat that, that there are six decanates <wrap hide>206|00:19:05|460|00:19:06|740</wrap>to be considered. <wrap hide>207|00:19:07|700|00:19:11|420</wrap>Three on the clockwise wheel and three on the reversing wheel. <wrap hide>208|00:19:11|560|00:19:15|540</wrap>Now some theorists have said that the first decanate is strictly physical, the second <wrap hide>209|00:19:15|540|00:19:21|200</wrap>strictly emotional, the third strictly mental, the fourth and reversing decanate is strictly <wrap hide>210|00:19:21|200|00:19:27|780</wrap>personal, the fifth decanate is strictly the soul, fifth or second, and the third or <wrap hide>211|00:19:27|780|00:19:29|420</wrap>sixth decanate is strictly the spirit. <wrap hide>212|00:19:29|540|00:19:35|880</wrap>I don't think that any of this rigid strictness is advisable. <wrap hide>213|00:19:36|040|00:19:42|240</wrap>There may be tendencies toward the cultivation of those different areas of the human energy <wrap hide>214|00:19:42|240|00:19:42|840</wrap>system. <wrap hide>215|00:19:43|660|00:19:50|640</wrap>You know, such as a life in which physicality of some etheric, physical, etheric vital physicality <wrap hide>216|00:19:50|640|00:19:53|940</wrap>is cultivated even if the person is already fairly advanced. <wrap hide>217|00:19:54|080|00:19:54|820</wrap>This is possible. <wrap hide>218|00:19:55|200|00:20:02|960</wrap>Or whether emotional work is going on even though you may have quite a soul conscious <wrap hide>219|00:20:02|960|00:20:09|440</wrap>individual or where spirit is being contacted for the first time if one can do that. <wrap hide>220|00:20:10|340|00:20:12|800</wrap>But that is not of course always the case. <wrap hide>221|00:20:13|680|00:20:21|860</wrap>Basically it's on a case by case basis and we must examine each individual and see what <wrap hide>222|00:20:21|860|00:20:25|940</wrap>is possible in their particular case. <wrap hide>223|00:20:27|300|00:20:29|560</wrap>Now what I'm going to do here just for one moment. <wrap hide>224|00:20:32|480|00:20:41|100</wrap>Now what I did before, I'm trying to keep this microphone level steady if I possibly <wrap hide>225|00:20:41|100|00:20:41|640</wrap>can. <wrap hide>226|00:20:44|440|00:20:45|660</wrap>It's a little bit tricky. <wrap hide>227|00:20:47|020|00:20:53|340</wrap>What we did before is that we said, okay, it's very important to know something about <wrap hide>228|00:20:53|340|00:20:59|120</wrap>the clockwise wheel but we're not essentially dealing with the clockwise wheel when we're <wrap hide>229|00:20:59|120|00:21:00|580</wrap>working with esoteric astrology. <wrap hide>230|00:21:00|580|00:21:02|180</wrap>We're dealing with the counterclockwise wheel. <wrap hide>231|00:21:02|600|00:21:09|680</wrap>So what I did was I went down here and I discussed not the physical, not the emotional, not the <wrap hide>232|00:21:09|680|00:21:12|940</wrap>mental, which are all in a way under orthodox Jupiter. <wrap hide>233|00:21:14|180|00:21:22|940</wrap>But I went and discussed the, not the mental lower personal, but the aspirational, personal, <wrap hide>234|00:21:23|120|00:21:25|240</wrap>aspirational and integrating personality. <wrap hide>235|00:21:25|600|00:21:27|100</wrap>And I discussed that last time. <wrap hide>236|00:21:27|880|00:21:37|840</wrap>And I gave some meanings that would be under, if you follow the cursor here, under Jupiter, <wrap hide>237|00:21:37|840|00:21:43|080</wrap>under the moon, Vulcan, and under Mars for the personal aspirational stage. <wrap hide>238|00:21:43|760|00:21:46|440</wrap>Now obviously, you could feel these kinds of things in yourself. <wrap hide>239|00:21:46|640|00:21:50|280</wrap>I'm simply giving indications of how they might work. <wrap hide>240|00:21:50|720|00:21:55|740</wrap>Now we would reach the disciple, disciplic, or soul stage in general. <wrap hide>241|00:21:56|400|00:22:01|880</wrap>This is occurring because the individual is an advanced man and he's also at the point <wrap hide>242|00:22:01|880|00:22:07|940</wrap>of the first initiation at least, and maybe beyond that. <wrap hide>243|00:22:10|640|00:22:16|420</wrap>We are dealing with here the idea of Pluto as the ruler. <wrap hide>244|00:22:18|100|00:22:25|120</wrap>The mantrum is no longer "go forth into matter," matter being basically the type of energies <wrap hide>245|00:22:25|120|00:22:30|240</wrap>found in the personality area, but rather "I leave the father's home and turning back, <wrap hide>246|00:22:30|240|00:22:30|680</wrap>I save." <wrap hide>247|00:22:30|680|00:22:37|780</wrap>Now at this point, there is no real idea of what the monad is from the experiential point <wrap hide>248|00:22:37|780|00:22:38|180</wrap>of view. <wrap hide>249|00:22:38|840|00:22:43|160</wrap>There is, however, increasing sensitivity to soul and the person is becoming a mediator <wrap hide>250|00:22:43|160|00:22:49|280</wrap>as we see on Esoteric Psychology—excuse me, Esoteric Astrology page 333. <wrap hide>251|00:22:49|980|00:22:55|740</wrap>So in general in this phase, not just considering the decanates, the disciple is often selflessly <wrap hide>252|00:22:56|440|00:22:58|340</wrap>committed to the welfare of others. <wrap hide>253|00:22:58|340|00:23:02|840</wrap>The urge to help is very strong in Pisces, especially once the wheel is reversed. <wrap hide>254|00:23:03|560|00:23:08|520</wrap>He communes with the soul increasingly and is increasingly open to the spiritual dimensions <wrap hide>255|00:23:08|520|00:23:13|380</wrap>of his life rather than merely the psychic dimensions, because I think it's very important <wrap hide>256|00:23:13|380|00:23:19|540</wrap>that we realize that psychism is not spirituality—rather than merely the psychic. <wrap hide>257|00:23:20|140|00:23:27|680</wrap>Though his use of psychism may also increase, but put into a spiritual context, psychism <wrap hide>258|00:23:27|680|00:23:33|860</wrap>exists in the animals we are told, and in underdeveloped or undeveloped human beings it exists, but <wrap hide>259|00:23:33|860|00:23:36|260</wrap>it is no indication of real spirituality. <wrap hide>260|00:23:36|480|00:23:43|800</wrap>It is simply an ability to tune in with a certain level of phenomena that we call astral, <wrap hide>261|00:23:43|800|00:23:51|480</wrap>and that can certainly cover or clog or in some way inhibit the spiritual influence. <wrap hide>262|00:23:52|230|00:23:59|180</wrap>Under Pluto, the disciple—he is detaching from concern for his strictly personal fate, <wrap hide>263|00:23:59|180|00:24:04|820</wrap>and under Neptune, which is beginning to be operative for disciples in a spiritual way, <wrap hide>264|00:24:05|540|00:24:09|410</wrap>he is mastering the lessons of selflessness and self-abnegation. <wrap hide>265|00:24:10|280|00:24:12|520</wrap>In other words, he is beginning to dissolve his ego. <wrap hide>266|00:24:13|640|00:24:18|860</wrap>We realize that when the sun veils Neptune in Leo and we are moving towards the second <wrap hide>267|00:24:18|860|00:24:22|820</wrap>initiation, we can have the dissolution of the lower ego. <wrap hide>268|00:24:23|820|00:24:31|660</wrap>Pisces, which has such an affinity for Neptune, is a very good sign in which the lower ego <wrap hide>269|00:24:31|660|00:24:39|020</wrap>can be dissolved or at least widened into the sense of the group self or the group ego. <wrap hide>270|00:24:41|800|00:24:49|920</wrap>His sensitivity to others as souls—that should be a "his"—his sensitivity to others as souls <wrap hide>271|00:24:49|920|00:24:52|340</wrap>is well established. <wrap hide>272|00:24:52|780|00:24:59|000</wrap>It began to be developed as an aspiring personality in the previous of the six levels, and under <wrap hide>273|00:24:59|000|00:25:03|420</wrap>Jupiter he is the proven and successful disciple. <wrap hide>274|00:25:03|420|00:25:11|380</wrap>So now let us look at how Jupiter, the moon, Vulcan, and Mars might operate here in relation <wrap hide>275|00:25:11|380|00:25:16|900</wrap>to these three decanates considered in the counterclockwise order and therefore in the <wrap hide>276|00:25:16|900|00:25:19|480</wrap>normal order as we consider the astrological science. <wrap hide>277|00:25:20|320|00:25:26|540</wrap>So we will apply Jupiter to this particular stage of disciplic development, and what can <wrap hide>278|00:25:26|540|00:25:27|240</wrap>Jupiter give us? <wrap hide>279|00:25:27|800|00:25:32|640</wrap>The disciple is expanding his vision to include the reality of the soul. <wrap hide>280|00:25:32|640|00:25:39|440</wrap>In other words, he is expanding his consciousness—I will put that in as well—expanding consciousness <wrap hide>281|00:25:39|850|00:25:47|400</wrap>into soul consciousness, increasingly through meditation, study, and service. <wrap hide>282|00:25:48|760|00:25:51|380</wrap>Expanding, let's make that correct. <wrap hide>283|00:25:52|340|00:25:58|100</wrap>Okay, the band which stands for the Antahkarana, the constellation called the band standing <wrap hide>284|00:25:58|100|00:26:03|160</wrap>for the Antahkarana is operating between the pairs of opposites. <wrap hide>285|00:26:03|300|00:26:11|020</wrap>There's the first level of the Antahkarana, and that unites two phases of consciousness: <wrap hide>286|00:26:11|460|00:26:13|540</wrap>soul consciousness and personality consciousness. <wrap hide>287|00:26:14|300|00:26:19|840</wrap>But that's not so much the Antahkarana that we are building with D.K.'s specific visualization <wrap hide>288|00:26:19|840|00:26:20|220</wrap>methods. <wrap hide>289|00:26:20|220|00:26:26|840</wrap>We are building an Antahkarana ultimately between the consciousness aspect and the life aspect <wrap hide>290|00:26:27|540|00:26:31|680</wrap>which is the monad and is represented by the spiritual triad. <wrap hide>291|00:26:32|380|00:26:36|580</wrap>Let's see if there is anything else here which should be said—yes, Pluto is the esoteric <wrap hide>292|00:26:36|580|00:26:38|620</wrap>ruler, it dominates, yes. <wrap hide>293|00:26:39|340|00:26:46|860</wrap>Okay, now we will look... I'm not going over this excessively, although I do have a tendency <wrap hide>294|00:26:46|860|00:26:53|960</wrap>to repeat and ruminate, you know, because I realize that in my presenting of this book <wrap hide>295|00:26:53|960|00:26:59|500</wrap>in this particular fashion, I'm pondering it and speaking of my ponderings, and I'm offering <wrap hide>296|00:26:59|500|00:27:04|480</wrap>you the results of my ponderings. So whether they are in perfect order as they would be <wrap hide>297|00:27:04|480|00:27:08|000</wrap>in a written book, well, simply they're not, you know. <wrap hide>298|00:27:08|440|00:27:13|580</wrap>But I'm doing the best I can under the circumstances, and perhaps something additional will come <wrap hide>299|00:27:13|580|00:27:17|280</wrap>through through this method that could not come through in the other methods. <wrap hide>300|00:27:18|040|00:27:21|880</wrap>Now, if we apply for the second decanate, the moon is the ruler, but really it's Vulcan, <wrap hide>301|00:27:22|060|00:27:28|180</wrap>and ultimately it gives way to the sun, and Mercury begins to fall away in its normal <wrap hide>302|00:27:28|180|00:27:28|660</wrap>function. <wrap hide>303|00:27:31|980|00:27:37|740</wrap>The disciple masters his vehicles through the spiritual will—that's Vulcan—and the <wrap hide>304|00:27:37|740|00:27:43|580</wrap>vehicles, of course, are the moon, and they become increasingly radiant, and that's Vulcan too. <wrap hide>305|00:27:43|580|00:27:45|860</wrap>Andromeda is bound. <wrap hide>306|00:27:46|100|00:27:51|960</wrap>Andromeda, in her guise as matter and not soul, is bound. <wrap hide>307|00:27:52|940|00:28:08|560</wrap>And let's just say Andromeda, as the soul bound to matter or to form, is preparing to be <wrap hide>308|00:28:08|560|00:28:15|420</wrap>released, which Perseus will do in a different decanate. <wrap hide>309|00:28:15|560|00:28:23|540</wrap>So the woman is chained, but she is also the soul, and she must be released into freedom, <wrap hide>310|00:28:23|540|00:28:30|880</wrap>and Vulcan, at the fourth initiation, will be active in the release of the imprisoned soul. <wrap hide>311|00:28:30|880|00:28:40|620</wrap>Under Vulcan, the disciple is spiritually empowered, and I want to add that illumination increases. <wrap hide>312|00:28:41|620|00:28:51|180</wrap>Mercury, as intuition, is operative, but as concrete mind, it falls—it falls—that's the <wrap hide>313|00:28:51|180|00:28:53|860</wrap>word: falls away. <wrap hide>314|00:28:55|180|00:29:01|420</wrap>So that's a very complicated kind of second decanate there, because we have many things <wrap hide>315|00:29:01|420|00:29:06|680</wrap>going on, and it's not just the moon, as Alan Leo said. It's the moon, Vulcan, and Vulcan <wrap hide>316|00:29:06|680|00:29:09|680</wrap>giving way to the sun, and Mercury falling back. <wrap hide>317|00:29:11|960|00:29:17|680</wrap>Now we go to the third decanate. We're talking about the disciple, and I've simply put something <wrap hide>318|00:29:17|680|00:29:23|600</wrap>here that Mars is fighting towards the sun—Mercury is falling away—fighting towards <wrap hide>319|00:29:23|600|00:29:36|160</wrap>the sun, and I want to add the sun of synthesis, because if any sign is synthetic, it is this <wrap hide>320|00:29:36|160|00:29:42|160</wrap>climactic, consummatory sign, Pisces, which takes from all the signs, as we're told, and <wrap hide>321|00:29:42|160|00:29:48|420</wrap>blends and merges them, and they become, as it were, one final energy. <wrap hide>322|00:29:48|420|00:29:56|940</wrap>The disciple struggles to establish the predominance of the soul—the sun—and I would say, and <wrap hide>323|00:29:56|940|00:30:11|020</wrap>even of the spirit, because Pisces is often... is... is... sometimes the sign in which the <wrap hide>324|00:30:11|020|00:30:24|120</wrap>last incarnation is taken, and for those with a Shambolic destination—destiny. <wrap hide>325|00:30:24|540|00:30:25|780</wrap>But of course, we're not there yet. <wrap hide>326|00:30:26|600|00:30:30|100</wrap>Not there yet, because we're only dealing with the disciple. <wrap hide>327|00:30:31|440|00:30:38|100</wrap>And the disciple is still not yet the initiate of the third degree, though even all third <wrap hide>328|00:30:38|100|00:30:40|020</wrap>degrees and those beyond are disciples. <wrap hide>329|00:30:40|020|00:30:41|360</wrap>So I think you get the idea. <wrap hide>330|00:30:41|460|00:30:45|560</wrap>The important ones in these six-fold charts that I've prepared... Of course, it would be <wrap hide>331|00:30:45|560|00:30:52|900</wrap>interesting, when studying the history of humanity, to review, you know, what the people in the <wrap hide>332|00:30:52|900|00:30:57|840</wrap>Lemurian stage—not many of them now—many in the Atlantean stage, operative, and many <wrap hide>333|00:30:57|840|00:31:03|720</wrap>in the mentally focused stage, what they would be doing with these particular energies. <wrap hide>334|00:31:03|720|00:31:08|240</wrap>And it's, you know, a very deep study, and eventually the esoteric astrologer will also <wrap hide>335|00:31:08|240|00:31:18|640</wrap>have to study such people, because we want to be able to help give the picture of what <wrap hide>336|00:31:18|640|00:31:22|700</wrap>the entire process of human evolution really looks like. <wrap hide>337|00:31:23|280|00:31:29|400</wrap>But for our purposes and at this time, we need to apply these things to ourselves, who are <wrap hide>338|00:31:29|400|00:31:35|200</wrap>aspiring personalities. We are on the probationary path, we are disciples, we are probationary <wrap hide>339|00:31:35|200|00:31:41|240</wrap>initiates and moving towards initiation. Only very few have achieved that, and then a whole <wrap hide>340|00:31:41|240|00:31:45|060</wrap>new type of astrology, which we can hint at, begins to occur. <wrap hide>341|00:31:46|460|00:31:48|080</wrap>All right, now we move on. <wrap hide>342|00:31:49|160|00:31:55|220</wrap>I've tried to be, you know, a little meticulous about all this, but well, you know, I'll get <wrap hide>343|00:31:55|220|00:31:56|340</wrap>it in order one day. <wrap hide>344|00:31:56|940|00:32:03|540</wrap>Now we come to that stage of the Pisces experience which is initiatic, triadic, and monadic. <wrap hide>345|00:32:03|540|00:32:11|000</wrap>Now, you know, we could say, "Okay, when we're dealing with the aspiring personality, we should <wrap hide>346|00:32:11|000|00:32:16|420</wrap>really focus on the first decanate," but not the first decanate alone—no. <wrap hide>347|00:32:16|920|00:32:23|000</wrap>We do have to apply second and third decanate indications to that stage, because certainly <wrap hide>348|00:32:23|540|00:32:28|680</wrap>not all those who are aspiring personalities and born in Pisces are born in the first decanate. <wrap hide>349|00:32:28|760|00:32:29|720</wrap>That just doesn't make sense. <wrap hide>350|00:32:29|720|00:32:40|120</wrap>When we deal with the disciple, disciple soul, then we are, we might say, well, we should <wrap hide>351|00:32:40|120|00:32:44|960</wrap>really focus only on the second decanate, the moon, Vulcan leading to the sun, Mercury <wrap hide>352|00:32:44|960|00:32:50|760</wrap>falling away. But no, while there may be that kind of emphasis, there are certainly disciples <wrap hide>353|00:32:50|760|00:32:59|700</wrap>who are born in all stages, all places in Pisces, and the energies there have to be used <wrap hide>354|00:32:59|700|00:33:08|060</wrap>in a particular way suitable to the level of attainment which is theirs. <wrap hide>355|00:33:08|700|00:33:17|160</wrap>Now we go to the final stage, which is the initiatic coming in touch with the monad, and <wrap hide>356|00:33:17|160|00:33:22|800</wrap>we could say, well, we better just concentrate on the third decanate where Mars is the ruler. <wrap hide>357|00:33:23|130|00:33:31|460</wrap>And I would like to say, Mars leading to the final sun of synthesis. <wrap hide>358|00:33:33|240|00:33:39|640</wrap>But again, it doesn't make sense to say that, because we well know that there are many individuals <wrap hide>359|00:33:40|600|00:33:45|280</wrap>who are, let us say, at that initiatic stage who are not simply going to be born in the <wrap hide>360|00:33:45|280|00:33:47|060</wrap>final degrees of Pisces. <wrap hide>361|00:33:47|060|00:33:49|620</wrap>I'm thinking about Ramakrishna. <wrap hide>362|00:33:49|760|00:33:55|400</wrap>He was born with Aquarius as his sun sign. <wrap hide>363|00:33:56|040|00:33:57|040</wrap>Let's see if I can find that. <wrap hide>364|00:33:57|060|00:33:57|900</wrap>That might be interesting. <wrap hide>365|00:33:58|400|00:34:05|480</wrap>And he had quite a few Pisces indicators, but they were, I think, in the early degrees of <wrap hide>366|00:34:05|480|00:34:05|760</wrap>Pisces. <wrap hide>367|00:34:05|840|00:34:06|800</wrap>Let me check this for sure. <wrap hide>368|00:34:06|880|00:34:09|540</wrap>Maybe his moon was in the latter part of Pisces. <wrap hide>369|00:34:10|240|00:34:15|080</wrap>Just looking to get this Solar Fire thing heating up here. <wrap hide>370|00:34:15|500|00:34:15|760</wrap>Okay. <wrap hide>371|00:34:16|280|00:34:18|020</wrap>The moon is in Gemini. <wrap hide>372|00:34:18|360|00:34:19|100</wrap>I see that. <wrap hide>373|00:34:20|220|00:34:24|540</wrap>Okay, so let's see if we can find Ramakrishna. <wrap hide>374|00:34:27|580|00:34:30|580</wrap>Rama, Ramakrishna. <wrap hide>375|00:34:31|860|00:34:41|040</wrap>And if we can, we have quite, quite... Yeah, he was born in the last part of Aquarius, <wrap hide>376|00:34:41|340|00:34:41|760</wrap>they say. <wrap hide>377|00:34:42|120|00:34:43|320</wrap>28 degrees of Aquarius. <wrap hide>378|00:34:43|320|00:34:49|620</wrap>And they say Capricorn rising, but if you see all those Pisces planets that he has, <wrap hide>379|00:34:50|560|00:34:55|000</wrap>we cannot be sure, you know, 5 a.m. local mean time. It's possible, but it probably could <wrap hide>380|00:34:55|000|00:34:55|460</wrap>be adjusted. <wrap hide>381|00:34:55|660|00:35:01|960</wrap>Look, Uranus is in Pisces, first decanate. Mercury is in Pisces; it's a ruler of his, <wrap hide>382|00:35:02|280|00:35:10|420</wrap>and you know, we cannot be sure. It says he has 29 and 59 of Aquarius rising. <wrap hide>383|00:35:10|420|00:35:13|580</wrap>That's so suspicious because he acted like such a Piscean. <wrap hide>384|00:35:13|880|00:35:22|520</wrap>So my sense of the matter is that just in another minute or so, maybe at 5:01 or maybe <wrap hide>385|00:35:22|520|00:35:29|360</wrap>less, just a few seconds, he would have been born with zero degrees of Pisces rising. <wrap hide>386|00:35:29|940|00:35:32|840</wrap>And, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. <wrap hide>387|00:35:33|460|00:35:34|720</wrap>I have to take that back. <wrap hide>388|00:35:34|880|00:35:36|120</wrap>This is 29 Capricorn. <wrap hide>389|00:35:36|580|00:35:38|200</wrap>Maybe, maybe that is the case. <wrap hide>390|00:35:39|800|00:35:44|040</wrap>I thought it was Pisces for a minute, but I was mistaken, but there are three Pisces <wrap hide>391|00:35:44|040|00:35:52|900</wrap>planets, and two of them, Uranus and Mercury, are in the first decanate of Pisces, and Uranus <wrap hide>392|00:35:52|900|00:35:59|820</wrap>is a ruler, potentially, of the Aquarius. It is the ruler of the Aquarius sun, and it <wrap hide>393|00:35:59|820|00:36:04|700</wrap>is the ruler, potentially, of zero degrees Aquarius rising. <wrap hide>394|00:36:04|700|00:36:12|540</wrap>He certainly did, shall we say, manage a group in India through which he sought to build <wrap hide>395|00:36:12|540|00:36:16|220</wrap>the evolutionary energy for humanity. <wrap hide>396|00:36:17|060|00:36:22|840</wrap>So this is a chart with a lot of Pisces in it, and then we go to the second decanate of <wrap hide>397|00:36:22|840|00:36:27|280</wrap>Pisces where we have the moon, and that's in the Cancer decanate, interestingly enough, <wrap hide>398|00:36:27|440|00:36:34|280</wrap>and Jupiter, which is the esoteric ruler of his sun because he is an initiate, is found <wrap hide>399|00:36:34|280|00:36:35|940</wrap>in the first decan of Cancer. <wrap hide>400|00:36:36|680|00:36:42|280</wrap>And you know, it was a spiritual family relationship, Jupiter and Uranus, Jupiter and Juno. <wrap hide>401|00:36:42|460|00:36:51|360</wrap>He did marry, but of course he was a celibate, and his family was a spiritual family, and <wrap hide>402|00:36:51|360|00:37:00|360</wrap>not only will Jupiter be the esoteric ruler... Let's see, it is the esoteric ruler of Aquarius, <wrap hide>403|00:37:00|360|00:37:05|220</wrap>but if in another few seconds he has Aquarius on the ascendant, because I do believe in <wrap hide>404|00:37:05|220|00:37:12|280</wrap>a way he transcended the third degree, I look at him as a fourth degree type, almost a fifth <wrap hide>405|00:37:12|280|00:37:16|920</wrap>degree type, and Jupiter would be the ruler of that Aquarius ascendant. <wrap hide>406|00:37:17|280|00:37:21|820</wrap>So we have very strong signs of consummation. <wrap hide>407|00:37:22|480|00:37:28|280</wrap>Neptune, the ruler of Pisces rising, Neptune the veiled ruler of Aquarius in the last decanate, <wrap hide>408|00:37:28|280|00:37:31|640</wrap>One of the rulers veiled in the last decanate of Aquarius. <wrap hide>409|00:37:33|260|00:37:34|740</wrap>We have that rising. <wrap hide>410|00:37:36|520|00:37:47|580</wrap>We have an individual who combined the consummatory effects of Aquarius and Pisces together. <wrap hide>411|00:37:48|260|00:37:56|340</wrap>We do have Venus in Aries, and he was very quickly attracted to people in the spiritual <wrap hide>412|00:37:56|340|00:38:01|840</wrap>sense. And Pluto is in Aries as well, and he exerted a profound transformational effect <wrap hide>413|00:38:01|840|00:38:06|780</wrap>upon all of his students and really students that became his all over the world. <wrap hide>414|00:38:07|160|00:38:10|600</wrap>Whenever they say, you know, he's born at five o'clock, you have to be a little suspicious. <wrap hide>415|00:38:12|060|00:38:20|820</wrap>I don't—he looks more like Aquarius rising to me than he does Capricorn rising, but I <wrap hide>416|00:38:20|820|00:38:26|600</wrap>just wanted to point out how important—here's an initiate with many indicators in the early <wrap hide>417|00:38:26|600|00:38:32|340</wrap>part of Pisces and not just in the last part, and this individual was a spiritual individual. <wrap hide>418|00:38:32|520|00:38:35|100</wrap>He was monadically responsive. <wrap hide>419|00:38:35|260|00:38:41|700</wrap>He was a high initiate, and we see that there's nothing in the latter degrees of Pisces, twenty <wrap hide>420|00:38:41|700|00:38:44|060</wrap>to thirty, but only in the early parts. <wrap hide>421|00:38:44|500|00:38:51|680</wrap>So my point is simply this: that we cannot be rigid about our categorization when we <wrap hide>422|00:38:51|680|00:38:55|240</wrap>say those individuals who are working on this will be born here. <wrap hide>423|00:38:55|460|00:38:56|480</wrap>It's not so. <wrap hide>424|00:38:56|760|00:39:02|740</wrap>There may be some emphasis because they are born in a certain decanate, but it all depends <wrap hide>425|00:39:02|740|00:39:04|740</wrap>on their particular stage of evolution. <wrap hide>426|00:39:05|240|00:39:11|740</wrap>There are many people born in the last degrees of Pisces who are simply early disciples, or <wrap hide>427|00:39:11|740|00:39:17|740</wrap>those born in the first degrees of Pisces who are high initiates, and I'm sure we can <wrap hide>428|00:39:17|740|00:39:22|560</wrap>prove that if we just study the world's famous spiritual people. <wrap hide>429|00:39:23|420|00:39:30|080</wrap>All right, now we're dealing with the initiatic, triadic, monadic level. <wrap hide>430|00:39:31|300|00:39:36|900</wrap>It's Pluto under Pluto because it's the hierarchical ruler, and the statement is "I leave the Father's <wrap hide>431|00:39:36|900|00:39:41|720</wrap>home and turning back I save," and it's really beginning to mean something because by this <wrap hide>432|00:39:41|720|00:39:48|100</wrap>time the individual initiate has the monad in sight and after the third degree has begun <wrap hide>433|00:39:48|100|00:39:54|560</wrap>to respond to the monad, and the key phrase "spiritual responsibility" is there. <wrap hide>434|00:39:55|620|00:40:03|280</wrap>There we seem to see something of the Saturnian effect because there is the opportunity to <wrap hide>435|00:40:03|280|00:40:09|260</wrap>work off karma. We are told in the Sepharial decanates and to assume responsibility for <wrap hide>436|00:40:09|260|00:40:12|440</wrap>those who have fallen and those who need to be redeemed. <wrap hide>437|00:40:13|580|00:40:21|880</wrap>The Dalai Lama, according to one chart with Libra rising, has Saturn in Pisces. Yeah, he <wrap hide>438|00:40:21|880|00:40:25|500</wrap>definitely has Saturn in Pisces, and it's in the sixth house. <wrap hide>439|00:40:26|000|00:40:31|280</wrap>He has Neptune in the Pisces house, being in Virgo, and the moon there as well. <wrap hide>440|00:40:31|740|00:40:38|160</wrap>So he is one high soul who knows how to assume spiritual responsibility, and finally we have <wrap hide>441|00:40:38|160|00:40:44|180</wrap>the idea of the savior, which is certainly a monadic connection in relation to Pisces, <wrap hide>442|00:40:44|660|00:40:47|440</wrap>Jupiter being very important there and Neptune as well. <wrap hide>443|00:40:48|500|00:40:52|680</wrap>The initiate is concluding his experience in the lower three worlds as a member of the <wrap hide>444|00:40:52|680|00:40:53|280</wrap>human kingdom. <wrap hide>445|00:40:54|200|00:41:01|780</wrap>Under Pluto and Neptune, he is sacrificing all for the sake of redeeming his fellow human <wrap hide>446|00:41:01|780|00:41:02|480</wrap>beings. <wrap hide>447|00:41:02|480|00:41:07|820</wrap>He has achieved detachment from the world of personality—that's via Pluto and Neptune— <wrap hide>448|00:41:07|820|00:41:14|820</wrap>and is centering in soul and in the perception of unity, so his consciousness is also triadic <wrap hide>449|00:41:15|520|00:41:18|040</wrap>and even monadic shortly. <wrap hide>450|00:41:18|460|00:41:24|140</wrap>He is surrendering to the higher will, so he understands something of the Atmic plane here, <wrap hide>451|00:41:24|140|00:41:32|940</wrap>which is interestingly enough a plane of water, at least is described in the compilation or <wrap hide>452|00:41:32|940|00:41:35|940</wrap>the table which D.K. made of the creative hierarchies. <wrap hide>453|00:41:36|280|00:41:42|740</wrap>Disidentified from personality and later even from the soul—and when I say soul here, I shouldn't— <wrap hide>454|00:41:42|740|00:41:47|280</wrap>you know, it shouldn't only be soul; it should be soul on the higher mental plane. <wrap hide>455|00:41:48|120|00:41:52|400</wrap>He lives by the mantram "Not my will, Father, but thine be done." <wrap hide>456|00:41:53|260|00:41:58|860</wrap>So we can see how much Neptune—self-sacrificing Neptune—will be coming in for the initiatic <wrap hide>457|00:41:58|860|00:42:03|960</wrap>type in the sixth phase. <wrap hide>458|00:42:04|500|00:42:07|980</wrap>The sixth phase being really the triadic monadic phase. <wrap hide>459|00:42:08|160|00:42:14|520</wrap>I guess I could make a seventh phase somehow and discriminate the triadic experience <wrap hide>460|00:42:14|520|00:42:20|100</wrap>of Atma-Buddhi-Manas from the final monadic experience, but it would not really be so relevant <wrap hide>461|00:42:20|100|00:42:26|660</wrap>to us, I think. If we consider states beyond the third where the triad is being cultivated <wrap hide>462|00:42:27|680|00:42:33|100</wrap>and the monad is in sight and being experienced, I think that's sufficient. I think we can bring <wrap hide>463|00:42:33|100|00:42:33|660</wrap>them together. <wrap hide>464|00:42:34|320|00:42:43|740</wrap>Now let us go to the decanates, and it will be again Jupiter for the first decanate on <wrap hide>465|00:42:43|740|00:42:44|860</wrap>the counterclockwise wheel. <wrap hide>466|00:42:45|420|00:42:48|760</wrap>The initiate sees and envisions the Sun. <wrap hide>467|00:42:48|960|00:42:51|200</wrap>The Sun of Synthesis. <wrap hide>468|00:42:51|880|00:42:53|600</wrap>So Jupiter is conferring a vision. <wrap hide>469|00:42:55|100|00:43:14|560</wrap>Sun... let's see, the Sun of Synthesis and Jupiter rules the monadic plane, and the initiate has <wrap hide>470|00:43:14|560|00:43:25|220</wrap>a vibratory response to the expansive awareness of the monadic plane. <wrap hide>471|00:43:27|700|00:43:30|060</wrap>Monadic... of the monadic plane. <wrap hide>472|00:43:31|480|00:43:38|240</wrap>Yes, Jupiter attunes him not just to Buddhi, which of course this phase does attune to, <wrap hide>473|00:43:38|240|00:43:44|260</wrap>but eventually to the monadic plane itself and to the great generosity of the eternal <wrap hide>474|00:43:44|260|00:43:55|780</wrap>pilgrimage... attuned to the great generosity of the divine pilgrimage of the monad as the <wrap hide>475|00:43:55|780|00:44:00|840</wrap>jiva descending into the lower five worlds, remembering of course that the monad stays <wrap hide>476|00:44:00|840|00:44:06|600</wrap>on its own plane even as it descends, and that's one of the mysteries of emanation. <wrap hide>477|00:44:07|060|00:44:09|760</wrap>How can you be in more than one place at the same time? <wrap hide>478|00:44:10|020|00:44:13|480</wrap>Well, maybe there isn't more than one place after all. <wrap hide>479|00:44:13|480|00:44:16|600</wrap>Maybe the idea of place is just a seeming. <wrap hide>480|00:44:17|800|00:44:25|340</wrap>So there is entry into triadic and monadic awareness. <wrap hide>481|00:44:27|360|00:44:39|300</wrap>And the Antahkarana, as the band, connects to all aspects of the triad and to the monad. <wrap hide>482|00:44:39|300|00:44:44|300</wrap>See, there's different things that band can represent. <wrap hide>483|00:44:44|440|00:44:50|380</wrap>The band of bondage, but it can represent the band of growing consciousness, and it can <wrap hide>484|00:44:50|380|00:44:56|700</wrap>also represent the Antahkaranic band which leads all the way from the lowest to <wrap hide>485|00:44:56|700|00:44:59|180</wrap>the highest in man's microcosmic system. <wrap hide>486|00:45:00|100|00:45:07|380</wrap>Then when we look at what it would be like in the Vulcan-Moon area, which leads also to <wrap hide>487|00:45:07|380|00:45:13|380</wrap>the Sun, the initiate proves the radiance of the Sun through the will-bound personality. <wrap hide>488|00:45:14|620|00:45:19|240</wrap>So he consummates the sequence. <wrap hide>489|00:45:21|220|00:45:23|940</wrap>Who consummates the sequence? <wrap hide>490|00:45:27|700|00:45:28|840</wrap>Whoops, what am I doing? <wrap hide>491|00:45:28|840|00:45:38|180</wrap>Okay, from Moon to Vulcan, and Vulcan gives way to great radiance. <wrap hide>492|00:45:40|800|00:45:49|820</wrap>And let us say that matter is completely bound and the soul is being set free. <wrap hide>493|00:45:52|040|00:45:56|680</wrap>So this is really the escape from bondage. <wrap hide>494|00:45:58|060|00:46:03|980</wrap>And Vulcan... remember what we said about Vulcan, that it does forge chains of bondage because <wrap hide>495|00:46:03|980|00:46:06|120</wrap>it's a very physical planet in the early days. <wrap hide>496|00:46:06|660|00:46:09|880</wrap>Even a hidden, undiscovered planet can have a very physical effect. <wrap hide>497|00:46:10|360|00:46:21|560</wrap>But later it breaks those chains and creates... let's just say, forges chains which connect <wrap hide>498|00:46:22|100|00:46:23|700</wrap>to the spirit aspect. <wrap hide>499|00:46:23|700|00:46:28|320</wrap>And let's just say subtle chains because they're not really chains. <wrap hide>500|00:46:28|580|00:46:36|280</wrap>They are simply subtle chains of connection which connect to the spirit aspect. <wrap hide>501|00:46:37|220|00:46:41|100</wrap>So there is increasing illumination coming in. <wrap hide>502|00:46:41|640|00:46:46|660</wrap>Now, does the Sun aspect only apply to the second decanate? <wrap hide>503|00:46:46|840|00:46:51|160</wrap>Well, Vulcan is specifically named in the second decanate, and therefore Vulcan and the Sun <wrap hide>504|00:46:51|160|00:46:55|480</wrap>are ones that... does imply, but there is the idea that only the Sun remains. <wrap hide>505|00:46:56|620|00:47:02|280</wrap>And I have the tendency to want to apply this phrase, "only the Sun remains," to the entire <wrap hide>506|00:47:05|300|00:47:09|060</wrap>experience of Pisces and to the final decanate. <wrap hide>507|00:47:09|820|00:47:12|040</wrap>And so let us see what is said here. <wrap hide>508|00:47:14|040|00:47:19|880</wrap>These are just sketchy remarks that I've prepared for teaching some esoteric astrology classes <wrap hide>509|00:47:19|880|00:47:24|240</wrap>in Finland, but they can be expanded, of course. <wrap hide>510|00:47:25|120|00:47:34|420</wrap>From 20 to 30 degrees, where we have Mars as the ruler and we are certainly under hierarchical <wrap hide>511|00:47:34|420|00:47:38|540</wrap>Pluto, there's really an annihilation of connection with all that hinders. <wrap hide>512|00:47:38|920|00:47:44|280</wrap>The initiate, through strenuous effort—that's Mars—and conflict, achieves liberation into <wrap hide>513|00:47:44|280|00:47:47|440</wrap>the established Sun of soul and spirit. <wrap hide>514|00:47:47|440|00:47:54|260</wrap>In other words, what I'm saying here is I'm taking D.K.'s words when he says like this: <wrap hide>515|00:47:54|520|00:47:57|940</wrap>"...and only the Sun remains." <wrap hide>516|00:47:58|700|00:48:08|200</wrap>Certainly it doesn't seem right to end the possibly most climactic decanate in the entire <wrap hide>517|00:48:08|200|00:48:10|560</wrap>zodiac only with Mars. <wrap hide>518|00:48:10|700|00:48:15|060</wrap>It's got to be Mars as it leads into that great sense of synthesis. <wrap hide>519|00:48:15|480|00:48:21|180</wrap>The initiate knows the reality of Cepheus, the monad, or King of Shambhala. <wrap hide>520|00:48:21|300|00:48:26|480</wrap>The monad is automatically a member of Shambhala in its own right. <wrap hide>521|00:48:27|120|00:48:32|680</wrap>The monad of the solar angel is a member of the council within the Sun, so they are a higher <wrap hide>522|00:48:32|680|00:48:34|980</wrap>order of being all together. <wrap hide>523|00:48:34|980|00:48:42|040</wrap>By this time, let us say Mercury and the Sun are definitely one. <wrap hide>524|00:48:42|760|00:48:48|140</wrap>Mercury and the Sun are definitely one. <wrap hide>525|00:48:50|560|00:49:01|040</wrap>The infallible intuition is operative, and this is the word identification as the Sun <wrap hide>526|00:49:01|520|00:49:04|460</wrap>of synthesis takes place. <wrap hide>527|00:49:04|460|00:49:09|700</wrap>Now we're looking at a very high level here where the man is identified as the spirit <wrap hide>528|00:49:09|700|00:49:18|160</wrap>and the Sun of synthesis is emerging, and it is the final remaining influence. <wrap hide>529|00:49:18|680|00:49:27|820</wrap>Everything else, all else is absorbed into the Sun of synthesis. <wrap hide>530|00:49:28|380|00:49:33|080</wrap>So I think it's very important to follow what D.K. has said here. <wrap hide>531|00:49:33|740|00:49:39|120</wrap>He seems to be hinting at the power of the Sun climatically. <wrap hide>532|00:49:39|860|00:49:47|120</wrap>He does revert at the very end, you know, he just says, "Okay, a vision of the Sun, there's <wrap hide>533|00:49:47|120|00:49:49|260</wrap>experience and then there's struggle." <wrap hide>534|00:49:49|420|00:49:58|400</wrap>He reverts back to the normal rulers of Jupiter, Moon, Vulcan and Mars. <wrap hide>535|00:49:58|400|00:50:06|620</wrap>But in the body of the text he's implying some sort of great synthesis here which is <wrap hide>536|00:50:06|620|00:50:13|160</wrap>occurring for the highest initiates who are Shambhala bound in the sign Pisces. <wrap hide>537|00:50:13|680|00:50:22|660</wrap>And we oftentimes see that it's the last decanate where the truly spirit-oriented developments <wrap hide>538|00:50:22|660|00:50:23|180</wrap>do occur. <wrap hide>539|00:50:23|180|00:50:32|100</wrap>This is absolutely true in the case of Capricorn where we have Vulcan, Mercury and the Sun <wrap hide>540|00:50:32|100|00:50:32|920</wrap>again. <wrap hide>541|00:50:33|600|00:50:35|840</wrap>These three in a blazing synthesis. <wrap hide>542|00:50:36|020|00:50:44|760</wrap>I wouldn't be surprised when we look at the last decanate of Aquarius which is ruled by <wrap hide>543|00:50:44|760|00:50:45|400</wrap>Venus. <wrap hide>544|00:50:45|760|00:50:49|300</wrap>There is a synthesis occurring there, a kind of a transfiguration. <wrap hide>545|00:50:49|300|00:50:59|020</wrap>So the last decanate of any sign in the counterclockwise order does carry a particular kind of potency, <wrap hide>546|00:50:59|020|00:51:08|000</wrap>but we cannot take that example too far and try to exclude others from being born in it <wrap hide>547|00:51:08|000|00:51:13|300</wrap>or raise those who are being born in it to initiate status. <wrap hide>548|00:51:13|500|00:51:14|700</wrap>We can't do that. <wrap hide>549|00:51:15|480|00:51:22|840</wrap>Okay, well we are... this is taking a little longer than I thought to work through these <wrap hide>550|00:51:22|840|00:51:24|880</wrap>decanates in Pisces. <wrap hide>551|00:51:26|460|00:51:30|040</wrap>But I hope there is some degree of clarity about it. <wrap hide>552|00:51:30|120|00:51:36|840</wrap>You know, I've often found in examining the rays of Piscean people that a kind of vagueness <wrap hide>553|00:51:36|840|00:51:44|300</wrap>or fluidity, a kind of blurred image occurs due to the Neptunian effect. <wrap hide>554|00:51:46|240|00:51:52|140</wrap>I've examined the rays of two people born in Pisces with a strong Cancerian, another <wrap hide>555|00:51:52|140|00:51:55|000</wrap>water sign influence, and it was just very difficult. <wrap hide>556|00:51:55|160|00:52:00|100</wrap>Both of them had the second ray and the third ray, but it was very difficult to tell in each <wrap hide>557|00:52:00|100|00:52:02|600</wrap>case which was the soul and which was the personality. <wrap hide>558|00:52:02|600|00:52:07|000</wrap>And I attribute that to the Piscean effect. <wrap hide>559|00:52:08|980|00:52:13|960</wrap>There is a little bit more... well let's see, let's go back to these decanates in landscape <wrap hide>560|00:52:13|960|00:52:15|220</wrap>view just reviewing this. <wrap hide>561|00:52:15|920|00:52:19|060</wrap>The first decanate is Pisces. <wrap hide>562|00:52:19|200|00:52:21|380</wrap>Pisces, the second Pisces, Cancer. <wrap hide>563|00:52:23|060|00:52:27|980</wrap>And we, you know, often with Cancer there is this type of bondage which occurs. <wrap hide>564|00:52:27|980|00:52:32|740</wrap>And then Pisces, Scorpio, bringing a kind of liberation. <wrap hide>565|00:52:33|620|00:52:38|040</wrap>The constellations are the band for the first decanate, Andromeda for the second decanate, <wrap hide>566|00:52:38|160|00:52:44|060</wrap>Cepheus for the third, and yet all three of them operative in the case of all Piscean <wrap hide>567|00:52:44|060|00:52:44|640</wrap>people. <wrap hide>568|00:52:45|620|00:52:50|940</wrap>The Alan Leo, the Tibetan's decanates, well Alan Leo's decanates are Jupiter, the Moon <wrap hide>569|00:52:50|940|00:52:56|920</wrap>and Mars, and Sepharial's decanates Saturn, Jupiter and Mars, remembering though that <wrap hide>570|00:52:56|920|00:53:06|160</wrap>these astrologers are working in a counterclockwise manner, the ordinary direction, and we have... <wrap hide>571|00:53:06|160|00:53:11|840</wrap>so therefore they're moving from 0 to 10, 10 to 20, and 20 to 30, even though we as <wrap hide>572|00:53:11|840|00:53:20|700</wrap>esoteric astrologers may assume that some people are entering the decanates in the reverse <wrap hide>573|00:53:20|700|00:53:26|860</wrap>order, with the 30 to 20, then 20 to 10, and 10 to 0. <wrap hide>574|00:53:27|320|00:53:34|260</wrap>The Tibetan's decanates, as he gives them is Jupiter, the Moon, but the complicated second <wrap hide>575|00:53:34|260|00:53:40|360</wrap>decanate gives us the Moon, Vulcan, and finally the Sun replacing Vulcan, and then in the <wrap hide>576|00:53:40|360|00:53:46|000</wrap>last decanate we have, with Mercury falling away, and in the last decanate definitely <wrap hide>577|00:53:46|000|00:53:53|360</wrap>Mars, but this struggle in Mars is towards a final victory which places the Sun of synthesis <wrap hide>578|00:53:53|360|00:53:59|120</wrap>in a prominent position and Mercury falls, I want to say, entirely. <wrap hide>579|00:54:00|200|00:54:05|260</wrap>And I will also say that in a way, at this point, and I didn't include the exaltation <wrap hide>580|00:54:05|260|00:54:18|200</wrap>but I should have, that Venus is exalted here in this final decanate as the solar angels <wrap hide>581|00:54:19|770|00:54:28|720</wrap>return to the heart of the Sun due to the liberation of the human being. <wrap hide>582|00:54:30|660|00:54:37|040</wrap>Okay, so let me just see here. If I go to home, and this is an 8, yes. <wrap hide>583|00:54:37|940|00:54:40|200</wrap>Alright, so Venus is exalted here. <wrap hide>584|00:54:40|800|00:54:48|060</wrap>You see, we're dealing with several kinds of rulerships at the same time. <wrap hide>585|00:54:48|900|00:54:54|420</wrap>We are dealing, of course, with the esoteric ruler, the esoteric ruler, the esoteric ruler, <wrap hide>586|00:54:54|520|00:54:55|880</wrap>and the hierarchical ruler, yes. <wrap hide>587|00:54:55|880|00:55:03|280</wrap>We are dealing with exaltation—whoops, hopefully that's not going to do something strange— <wrap hide>588|00:55:03|860|00:55:08|380</wrap>we're dealing with exaltation, detriment, and fall, yes. <wrap hide>589|00:55:08|920|00:55:15|140</wrap>And then we're dealing, and they all mix into this whole expression of the decanates. <wrap hide>590|00:55:15|800|00:55:20|740</wrap>Then we're dealing with the rulers of the decanates presented in the Chaldean system <wrap hide>591|00:55:20|740|00:55:28|100</wrap>by Sepharial, in the Hindu or Indian system by Alan Leo, and in a deeper esoteric sense <wrap hide>592|00:55:28|100|00:55:29|760</wrap>by the Tibetan. <wrap hide>593|00:55:30|120|00:55:37|840</wrap>We're also dealing with constellations that are pouring their energies into various decanates <wrap hide>594|00:55:37|840|00:55:39|820</wrap>and into the sign entirely. <wrap hide>595|00:55:40|300|00:55:43|840</wrap>What a great mix of energies we have. <wrap hide>596|00:55:44|560|00:55:50|060</wrap>But some confusion could result, and we have to rely upon the intuition to help us choose <wrap hide>597|00:55:50|640|00:55:54|500</wrap>that which is most appropriate in the case of any individual. <wrap hide>598|00:55:54|640|00:55:58|120</wrap>Really, when you're doing the decanates of somebody, you really have to sit down with <wrap hide>599|00:55:58|120|00:56:03|320</wrap>them and sort of determine where they are and what that decanate can really mean to <wrap hide>600|00:56:03|320|00:56:03|520</wrap>them. <wrap hide>601|00:56:03|560|00:56:06|780</wrap>The decanate in which their sun is found, the decanate in which their rising sign is <wrap hide>602|00:56:06|780|00:56:07|220</wrap>found. <wrap hide>603|00:56:07|220|00:56:16|800</wrap>The appropriate rulers of that decanate by several systems, the connection of extrazodiacal <wrap hide>604|00:56:16|800|00:56:22|280</wrap>constellations to the system, to that decanate. <wrap hide>605|00:56:23|120|00:56:31|980</wrap>And then just the ordinary division: what triplicity, what other factor in the triplicity <wrap hide>606|00:56:31|980|00:56:34|260</wrap>in which they are born is operative. <wrap hide>607|00:56:34|260|00:56:38|900</wrap>If they're born in the Pisces-Cancer decanate, it's different from the Pisces-Scorpio decanate, <wrap hide>608|00:56:38|900|00:56:41|660</wrap>just on the basis of the signs alone. <wrap hide>609|00:56:42|780|00:56:47|700</wrap>So, you know, and then of course the question is: are you coming, or are you going, or are <wrap hide>610|00:56:47|700|00:56:49|560</wrap>you operating in both ways? <wrap hide>611|00:56:50|040|00:56:56|360</wrap>D.K. has said that humanity as a whole is entering the age of Aquarius under Venus because they're <wrap hide>612|00:56:56|360|00:57:01|600</wrap>going in reverse order in a larger sense, but at the same time he said we're all undergoing <wrap hide>613|00:57:01|600|00:57:07|480</wrap>that Saturn experience of the first decanate from zero to ten, whether we are disciples <wrap hide>614|00:57:07|480|00:57:10|560</wrap>or everybody—we're all entering via Saturn. <wrap hide>615|00:57:11|380|00:57:15|260</wrap>So, you know, you can kind of have your cake and eat it too here. <wrap hide>616|00:57:15|660|00:57:20|440</wrap>It's not just isolating one little box in which you are operative. <wrap hide>617|00:57:20|740|00:57:28|040</wrap>The fluidity of the decanate study has to be kept in mind, and the intuition has to be <wrap hide>618|00:57:28|040|00:57:28|560</wrap>operative. <wrap hide>619|00:57:29|600|00:57:34|660</wrap>Okay, well, I think we have reached the point where we can together do The Great Invocation, <wrap hide>620|00:57:34|660|00:57:48|900</wrap>and if all goes well, I should be able to finish the Pisces work in the next time around. <wrap hide>621|00:57:49|120|00:57:49|580</wrap>Let's just see. <wrap hide>622|00:57:50|120|00:57:55|420</wrap>Yeah, I think—yes, yes—I will be able to finish Pisces the next time around. <wrap hide>623|00:57:55|440|00:58:12|020</wrap>So this is the end of EAA 59 and still on page 133 on decanates and using also the six-fold <wrap hide>624|00:58:12|020|00:58:18|760</wrap>table and the large decanate tabulation. <wrap hide>625|00:58:19|620|00:58:29|700</wrap>All right, so we will then conclude with The Great Invocation, and there it is. <wrap hide>626|00:58:29|940|00:58:32|080</wrap>All right, we're fortunate—it's right there. <wrap hide>627|00:58:32|320|00:58:33|720</wrap>So let's work together. <wrap hide>628|00:58:38|980|00:58:39|620</wrap>Om. <wrap hide>629|00:58:45|340|00:58:50|940</wrap>From the point of light within the mind of God, let light stream forth into the minds <wrap hide>630|00:58:50|940|00:58:54|360</wrap>of men. Let light descend on earth. <wrap hide>631|00:58:56|920|00:59:02|460</wrap>From the point of love within the heart of God, let love stream forth into the hearts <wrap hide>632|00:59:02|460|00:59:05|700</wrap>of men. May Christ return to earth. <wrap hide>633|00:59:08|180|00:59:13|840</wrap>From the center where the will of God is known, let purpose guide the little wills of men— <wrap hide>634|00:59:14|240|00:59:17|620</wrap>the purpose which the masters know and serve. <wrap hide>635|00:59:20|080|00:59:25|020</wrap>From the center which we call the race of men, let the plan of love and light work out, <wrap hide>636|00:59:25|180|00:59:28|960</wrap>and may it seal the door where evil dwells. <wrap hide>637|00:59:29|560|00:59:35|340</wrap>Let light and love and power restore the plan on earth. <wrap hide>638|00:59:39|120|00:59:40|520</wrap>Om. <wrap hide>639|00:59:48|900|00:59:50|300</wrap>Om. <wrap hide>640|01:00:10|300|01:00:18|820</wrap>Okay friends, thank you, and we will return with Esoteric Astrology Adventure number 60, <wrap hide>641|01:00:18|820|01:00:23|640</wrap>concluding Pisces and moving forward. And we'll see you then. Bye-bye.+<wrap hide>1|00:00:03|160|00:00:04|360</wrap>Hello everybody. <wrap hide>2|00:00:05|800|00:00:09|660</wrap>We are continuing with Esoteric Astrology adventure number 59. <wrap hide>3|00:00:09|980|00:00:15|580</wrap>We are concluding the work in Pisces, and we're dealing with the Decanates. <wrap hide>4|00:00:16|520|00:00:20|780</wrap>And I would like to read again. <wrap hide>5|00:00:21|660|00:00:28|780</wrap>It is a very fluid area, and in some ways one does not know literally whether one is coming <wrap hide>6|00:00:28|780|00:00:29|560</wrap>or going. <wrap hide>7|00:00:30|380|00:00:38|580</wrap>In other words, when Leo and Sepharial give their decanate rulers, we know that unlike <wrap hide>8|00:00:38|580|00:00:46|940</wrap>the Tibetan, they are not dealing with a retrogression through the zodiac. <wrap hide>9|00:00:47|220|00:00:54|360</wrap>So when they say that this is the ruler of the first decanate, they definitely mean zero <wrap hide>10|00:00:54|360|00:00:55|260</wrap>to ten degrees. <wrap hide>11|00:00:55|540|00:00:57|280</wrap>The second decanate is always ten to twenty. <wrap hide>12|00:00:58|010|00:01:01|580</wrap>And the third decanate they mean twenty to thirty. <wrap hide>13|00:01:02|540|00:01:06|080</wrap>So they arrange their planets in the order of that. <wrap hide>14|00:01:06|300|00:01:11|200</wrap>Now Sepharial has given Saturn, Jupiter, Mars. <wrap hide>15|00:01:12|140|00:01:16|980</wrap>However, Saturn for the first, Jupiter for the second, and Mars for the third. <wrap hide>16|00:01:17|100|00:01:22|460</wrap>However, the Tibetan would suggest that people on the ordinary wheel of form are entering <wrap hide>17|00:01:23|040|00:01:26|840</wrap>via the third decanate, which for them is the first. <wrap hide>18|00:01:26|840|00:01:34|360</wrap>So the order of their progression would be, in Sepharial's terms, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn. <wrap hide>19|00:01:35|200|00:01:46|740</wrap>Alan Leo gives Jupiter, then the Moon, and then Mars. <wrap hide>20|00:01:47|140|00:01:48|140</wrap>Jupiter, the Moon, and Mars. <wrap hide>21|00:01:48|240|00:01:50|020</wrap>Let's check that just to make sure. <wrap hide>22|00:01:50|980|00:01:52|780</wrap>The sixfold development of Pisces. <wrap hide>23|00:01:55|660|00:02:00|280</wrap>Going up here, that's quite a bit. <wrap hide>24|00:02:01|320|00:02:03|300</wrap>Okay, yes, Jupiter, the Moon, and Mars. <wrap hide>25|00:02:03|680|00:02:07|080</wrap>Yes, Alan Leo gives this: Jupiter, the Moon, and Mars. <wrap hide>26|00:02:07|620|00:02:17|920</wrap>However, it is also possible for us to consider that his three decanates are in fact accurate, <wrap hide>27|00:02:17|920|00:02:25|860</wrap>but we would enter on the ordinary wheel: Mars, the Moon, and Jupiter. <wrap hide>28|00:02:27|160|00:02:36|160</wrap>So often D.K. emphasizes the exoteric nature of Sepharial's attributions of decanates, but <wrap hide>29|00:02:36|160|00:02:43|480</wrap>he does not totally dismiss them, and we can find, if we have considering D.K., Alan Leo, <wrap hide>30|00:02:43|480|00:02:51|200</wrap>and Sepharial, except when D.K. absolutely repudiates the choices of the other two, that <wrap hide>31|00:02:51|200|00:02:56|900</wrap>there is something to be said for the decanates which they assign, because after all they didn't <wrap hide>32|00:02:56|900|00:02:57|380</wrap>invent them. <wrap hide>33|00:02:57|520|00:02:58|640</wrap>They are ancient systems. <wrap hide>34|00:02:59|340|00:03:09|900</wrap>Sepharial's system is a Chaldean system, and Alan Leo's system is an Indian system, and <wrap hide>35|00:03:09|900|00:03:16|020</wrap>they are very ancient. And if we check out Alan Leo's rulerships by the appearance of <wrap hide>36|00:03:16|020|00:03:23|040</wrap>people, we will see that, let us say with Aries, the first decanate is Aries-Aries, then second <wrap hide>37|00:03:23|040|00:03:30|640</wrap>from 10 to 20 is Aries-Leo, then from 20 to 30, Aries-Sagittarius. And given the normal <wrap hide>38|00:03:30|640|00:03:37|420</wrap>rulers, which would be Mars for Aries-Aries, the Sun for Aries-Leo, and Jupiter for Aries- <wrap hide>39|00:03:37|420|00:03:44|780</wrap>Sagittarius, the appearance of the person does bear this out. And appearance is not a slight <wrap hide>40|00:03:44|780|00:03:52|520</wrap>thing; it has to do not strictly with physical matters, it has to do with inner energy patterns <wrap hide>41|00:03:52|520|00:03:56|720</wrap>which work out as physical appearance, so we do know there is something there. <wrap hide>42|00:03:57|380|00:04:03|700</wrap>So when we're studying the decanates, it's not just a question of choosing one correct <wrap hide>43|00:04:04|740|00:04:05|420</wrap>system. <wrap hide>44|00:04:06|120|00:04:12|280</wrap>There are several systems, each of which has their points of value. <wrap hide>45|00:04:12|440|00:04:17|420</wrap>Naturally, from the esoteric and psychological spiritual point of view, we want to use the <wrap hide>46|00:04:17|420|00:04:22|740</wrap>Tibetan system because it deals most with the evolution of the soul, but we cannot discount <wrap hide>47|00:04:22|740|00:04:29|360</wrap>Sepharial except when D.K. tells us that it is strictly inaccurate, and we certainly cannot <wrap hide>48|00:04:29|360|00:04:34|980</wrap>discount Alan Leo even when he differs from Master D.K., because that ancient Indian system <wrap hide>49|00:04:34|980|00:04:43|180</wrap>does, at least somewhat exoterically, tell us what types of energies can be found in the <wrap hide>50|00:04:43|180|00:04:43|920</wrap>various decanates. <wrap hide>51|00:04:44|440|00:04:54|340</wrap>Now, what I would like to do is to read again this sometimes very puzzling <wrap hide>52|00:04:54|340|00:05:00|640</wrap>paragraph over which I have labored and tried to be as clear as I possibly can, but D.K.'s <wrap hide>53|00:05:00|640|00:05:07|300</wrap>writing itself is full of hints, and he is not writing with the concrete mind; he's writing <wrap hide>54|00:05:08|460|00:05:13|160</wrap>to evoke the intuition of the reader. <wrap hide>55|00:05:14|500|00:05:15|960</wrap>So I'm going to read this over again. <wrap hide>56|00:05:16|460|00:05:21|040</wrap><wrap quote>The same symbolic mode of interpretation must govern also our understanding of the three <wrap hide>57|00:05:21|040|00:05:23|080</wrap>decanates.</wrap> in Pisces, of course. <wrap hide>58|00:05:23|760|00:05:29|020</wrap><wrap quote>Both Leo</wrap>—Alan Leo—<wrap quote>and Sepharial give a list of the decanates and between them there is <wrap hide>59|00:05:29|020|00:05:30|500</wrap>much resemblance</wrap> <wrap hide>60|00:05:31|400|00:05:36|000</wrap>In other words, both of them have Mars and both of them have Jupiter, but not in the same <wrap hide>61|00:05:36|000|00:05:37|980</wrap>places necessarily, especially for Jupiter. <wrap hide>62|00:05:39|180|00:05:43|220</wrap><wrap quote>but there is, however, an important difference.</wrap> <wrap hide>63|00:05:43|640|00:05:50|280</wrap><wrap quote>Leo approaches the closer</wrap> but not exactly close, not exactly accurate, <wrap quote>the closer <wrap hide>64|00:05:50|280|00:05:56|700</wrap>to the esoteric interpretation of astrology whilst Sepharial is purely exoteric.</wrap> <wrap hide>65|00:05:57|320|00:06:02|440</wrap>This seems to be a generalization—a generality—that he is almost always exoteric, although <wrap hide>66|00:06:02|440|00:06:10|640</wrap>occasionally D.K. chooses the Sepharial decanates, as in Gemini and maybe in Cancer, I think, as <wrap hide>67|00:06:10|640|00:06:16|760</wrap>indicating the truly esoteric point of view. <wrap hide>68|00:06:17|280|00:06:21|100</wrap><wrap quote>According to Sepharial, the three decanates are governed by Saturn—Jupiter—Mars,</wrap> <wrap hide>69|00:06:21|220|00:06:26|000</wrap>So that would be the first, second and third decanate, or if we reverse them: Mars, Jupiter, Saturn. <wrap hide>70|00:06:26|860|00:06:31|140</wrap>The three decanates are governed by Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, <wrap quote>presenting opportunity to work <wrap hide>71|00:06:31|140|00:06:36|580</wrap>off karma</wrap>—that's Saturn—<wrap quote>and to be successful in so doing</wrap>—that's always Jupiter, success— <wrap hide>72|00:06:37|320|00:06:42|420</wrap><wrap quote>and indicating the method employed, that of conflict and of war.</wrap> <wrap hide>73|00:06:42|420|00:06:48|420</wrap>So we've seen some terrible things happen during the Age of Pisces, and especially as <wrap hide>74|00:06:48|420|00:06:58|480</wrap>we approach the latter part of the Age of Pisces, in which Mars in the third decanate <wrap hide>75|00:06:58|480|00:07:00|480</wrap>is considered so potent. <wrap hide>76|00:07:00|700|00:07:02|600</wrap>It has been a time of many wars. <wrap hide>77|00:07:02|820|00:07:10|540</wrap>The warring 20th century as a kind of climax. Let's hope that the 21st century is not even <wrap hide>78|00:07:11|400|00:07:13|000</wrap>more potent in relation to war. <wrap hide>79|00:07:14|100|00:07:16|740</wrap><wrap quote>Leo gives us Jupiter, the Moon and Mars.</wrap> <wrap hide>80|00:07:16|960|00:07:21|680</wrap>You see, Jupiter rules Pisces, of course. The Moon rules Cancer, which is the Pisces-Cancer <wrap hide>81|00:07:21|680|00:07:25|000</wrap>decanate, and Mars rules the Pisces-Scorpio decanate. <wrap hide>82|00:07:25|480|00:07:28|120</wrap>So it's just following the system—that's what he does. <wrap hide>83|00:07:28|820|00:07:36|940</wrap><wrap quote>He indicates, therefore, the success</wrap> of Jupiter, <wrap quote>which is incident to proved discipleship and <wrap hide>84|00:07:36|940|00:07:38|960</wrap>consequent readiness for initiation,</wrap> <wrap hide>85|00:07:38|960|00:07:50|980</wrap>Now this success will be operative both upon the ordinary wheel and upon the wheel of consciousness. <wrap hide>86|00:07:51|320|00:07:56|600</wrap>See, the individual is moving backwards: Mars, Moon and Jupiter. So in the third decanate, <wrap hide>87|00:07:56|600|00:08:02|340</wrap>which is, in the normal order, the first, there will be some sort of success. And as we begin <wrap hide>88|00:08:02|340|00:08:10|880</wrap>to reverse the wheel, we have Jupiter indicating the kind of success in relation to discipleship <wrap hide>89|00:08:10|880|00:08:12|620</wrap>which the Tibetan is discussing. <wrap hide>90|00:08:13|460|00:08:22|060</wrap>See, we may have the same rulers here if we go moving counterclockwise, moving clockwise <wrap hide>91|00:08:22|060|00:08:22|920</wrap>or counterclockwise. <wrap hide>92|00:08:22|920|00:08:31|860</wrap>Actually, I've just realized here that by listing these as 0 to 10, 10 to 20, 20 to <wrap hide>93|00:08:31|860|00:08:39|520</wrap>30, that in a way it appears that for the ordinary wheel of form I am moving counterclockwise. <wrap hide>94|00:08:39|520|00:08:46|720</wrap>But don't pay attention to the way the arrows seem to be moving—they're simply moving backwards <wrap hide>95|00:08:46|720|00:08:53|220</wrap>through the degrees towards the first 10 degrees, and then they begin again with the <wrap hide>96|00:08:53|220|00:09:01|620</wrap>first 10 degrees and move forward towards the last 10 degrees, where the blue star can <wrap hide>97|00:09:01|620|00:09:05|220</wrap>be found indicating spiritual results. <wrap hide>98|00:09:07|680|00:09:16|020</wrap>Yes, I guess there's no way to put this down in a totally clear manner. It is clear enough <wrap hide>99|00:09:16|020|00:09:28|320</wrap>here, and if you check this, you will see that the inner wheel is the wheel of form, and it <wrap hide>100|00:09:28|320|00:09:32|120</wrap>is moving in a clockwise direction. <wrap hide>101|00:09:32|320|00:09:37|100</wrap>The wheel of consciousness here we can portray is moving in the counterclockwise direction. <wrap hide>102|00:09:37|220|00:09:42|260</wrap>This is a diagram prepared by Nicholas Nillon, which is a compendium of a number of points <wrap hide>103|00:09:42|260|00:09:42|720</wrap>of view. <wrap hide>104|00:09:42|720|00:09:48|920</wrap>In certain particulars, Nicholas differs from my choices and from the choices of Stephen <wrap hide>105|00:09:48|920|00:09:49|300</wrap>Pugh. <wrap hide>106|00:09:50|360|00:09:57|320</wrap>Those are the theorists who I think have paid the most attention to decanate rulership. Also <wrap hide>107|00:09:57|320|00:09:58|340</wrap>in Denmark, Holger <wrap hide>108|00:09:58|880|00:10:05|100</wrap>Stansberg has done a lot of work in this area, and he differs in certain particulars as well. <wrap hide>109|00:10:05|100|00:10:11|140</wrap>And there's no way that we can completely confirm the accuracy of choices. <wrap hide>110|00:10:11|440|00:10:19|440</wrap>Even D.K. leaves certain open possibilities, certain ambiguities, and we just have to live <wrap hide>111|00:10:19|440|00:10:19|980</wrap>with that. <wrap hide>112|00:10:21|440|00:10:27|220</wrap>Now, continuing with the reading: <wrap quote>Leo gives us Jupiter, the Moon and Mars. <wrap hide>113|00:10:27|380|00:10:32|700</wrap>He indicates, therefore, the success which is incident to proved discipleship</wrap> <wrap hide>114|00:10:32|700|00:10:39|200</wrap>So in the first decanate of Pisces, we will find examples of proved discipleship. <wrap hide>115|00:10:41|120|00:10:49|300</wrap>Examples in the first decan of proven <wrap quote>discipleship and consequent readiness for initiation,</wrap> <wrap hide>116|00:10:50|900|00:10:56|400</wrap>I think some of this initiation will come in later decanates, although you can take <wrap hide>117|00:10:56|400|00:11:01|860</wrap>initiation really in any decanate. And I'm sure when we look at the biographies and astrology <wrap hide>118|00:11:01|860|00:11:06|400</wrap>of initiates, we will see that they've been born in all the decanates and have taken initiation, <wrap hide>119|00:11:06|400|00:11:17|820</wrap>but some initiatory potential existing in the last two decans also. <wrap hide>120|00:11:18|500|00:11:23|800</wrap><wrap quote>the seeing of the vision with which Jupiter rewards the disciple,</wrap> <wrap hide>121|00:11:23|960|00:11:26|740</wrap>Now it can be a vision of the Sun, or it can simply be the vision. <wrap hide>122|00:11:26|740|00:11:32|200</wrap>If it is the vision, it is still operative in the first decanate. <wrap hide>123|00:11:32|420|00:11:37|180</wrap>If it is a vision of the Sun, we have in the second decanate Vulcan giving way to the Sun <wrap hide>124|00:11:37|180|00:11:45|000</wrap>and hints about the third decanate which tell us that only the Sun remains as the ruler <wrap hide>125|00:11:45|000|00:11:45|880</wrap>of everything. <wrap hide>126|00:11:46|180|00:11:52|000</wrap>So there is some Sun potential in the second decanate and in the third decanate in the <wrap hide>127|00:11:52|000|00:11:53|540</wrap>clockwise or normal order. <wrap hide>128|00:11:54|540|00:12:01|680</wrap><wrap quote>and the experience which Vulcan confers.</wrap>—well, it's usually the Moon conveying experience. <wrap hide>129|00:12:03|540|00:12:11|460</wrap>Usually the Moon conveys experience, but we also remember we were discussing the Earth, <wrap hide>130|00:12:12|100|00:12:19|180</wrap>and among the rulers of the mutable cross, the esoteric ruler of Earth in relation to <wrap hide>131|00:12:19|180|00:12:21|700</wrap>the Leshteros provided the field of experience. <wrap hide>132|00:12:22|380|00:12:39|120</wrap>So both Earth and Moon provide experience, but Vulcan is substituted for the Moon. <wrap hide>133|00:12:40|120|00:12:42|240</wrap><wrap quote>Vulcan has been hitherto hidden, <wrap hide>134|00:12:42|900|00:12:49|140</wrap>but its influence has steadily superseded all lunar control,</wrap> <wrap hide>135|00:12:49|320|00:12:54|540</wrap>This I have discussed because lunar control is instinctive and irrational, and Vulcan has <wrap hide>136|00:12:54|540|00:13:01|980</wrap>to do with purpose and will and full consciousness, at least in the later stages of the Vulcanian <wrap hide>137|00:13:01|980|00:13:02|640</wrap>experience. <wrap hide>138|00:13:03|320|00:13:06|660</wrap><wrap quote><wrap hide>139|00:13:06|820|00:13:11|780</wrap>for the personality or form side of life</wrap>—and let's call that the Moon—<wrap quote>is lost to sight <wrap hide>140|00:13:11|780|00:13:14|780</wrap>in the radiance of the Sun, the soul.</wrap> <wrap hide>141|00:13:15|660|00:13:19|660</wrap>So Vulcan and the Sun are one, you see, at this point. <wrap hide>142|00:13:20|760|00:13:24|320</wrap>Vulcan—because he's still talking about the second decanate, isn't he? <wrap hide>143|00:13:24|720|00:13:26|440</wrap>Vulcan and the Sun are one. <wrap hide>144|00:13:26|860|00:13:33|960</wrap>So we have a progression from the Moon to Vulcan to the radiance of the Sun. <wrap hide>145|00:13:33|960|00:13:44|140</wrap>So wherever Vulcan is found, there can be lunar imputations, but there are also solar imputations. <wrap hide>146|00:13:45|300|00:13:47|440</wrap>Vulcan is a planet of blinding light, I say. <wrap hide>147|00:13:48|320|00:13:49|100</wrap>Represented by Vulcan. <wrap hide>148|00:13:49|480|00:13:49|560</wrap>Okay. <wrap hide>149|00:13:50|680|00:13:57|200</wrap><wrap quote>The light of Vulcan and the light of the Sun are one light</wrap> so this does relate to the second <wrap hide>150|00:13:57|200|00:13:57|540</wrap>decan. <wrap hide>151|00:13:57|660|00:13:58|480</wrap>It definitely does. <wrap hide>152|00:13:59|390|00:14:06|500</wrap>So this statement relates to the second decan, and these three—now he's calling on Mercury <wrap hide>153|00:14:06|500|00:14:12|040</wrap>here because Mercury is a falling planet, but it's not ruling any decanate particularly. <wrap hide>154|00:14:13|220|00:14:25|040</wrap>Except that, kind of interestingly, I just realized it: Mercury is the hierarchical ruler of Scorpio. <wrap hide>155|00:14:25|960|00:14:34|040</wrap>So perhaps the presence of Mercury in the third or Scorpio decanate is possible. <wrap hide>156|00:14:34|720|00:14:39|600</wrap>Presence of Mercury in the Scorpio decan is possible. <wrap hide>157|00:14:40|560|00:14:45|740</wrap><wrap quote>and these three—Mercury, Vulcan and the Sun—stand for a synthesis and a radiance <wrap hide>158|00:14:46|160|00:14:52|000</wrap>which eventually dims the light of Mercury and it “falls” into the background</wrap> <wrap hide>159|00:14:52|000|00:14:56|420</wrap>Now, is this happening in the second decanate or the third decanate, or just in general? <wrap hide>160|00:14:56|980|00:15:05|660</wrap>Is this happening in general, or in the second or third decan? <wrap hide>161|00:15:06|060|00:15:08|980</wrap><wrap quote>and Vulcan too becomes invisible and only the Sun remains.</wrap> <wrap hide>162|00:15:09|240|00:15:14|480</wrap>So if Vulcan is in the second decanate, we have to be talking about the Sun in relation <wrap hide>163|00:15:14|480|00:15:15|900</wrap>to the second decanate, definitely. <wrap hide>164|00:15:16|240|00:15:22|980</wrap>We have to be talking of the Sun in relation to the second decan, but this does not mean <wrap hide>165|00:15:22|980|00:15:28|160</wrap>that we will not or cannot talk about it in relation to the third decanate, which is ruled <wrap hide>166|00:15:28|160|00:15:32|980</wrap>by Cepheus, the king, the king of Shambala. <wrap hide>167|00:15:33|260|00:15:39|800</wrap>It all ends with the king and Shambala, and as I have said, Pisces is a very Shambolic <wrap hide>168|00:15:39|800|00:15:44|540</wrap>sign, and Vulcan too becomes invisible, and only the Sun remains. <wrap hide>169|00:15:44|540|00:15:49|320</wrap>Now he seems to have been talking about the second decanate, but he has a way of talking <wrap hide>170|00:15:49|320|00:15:55|500</wrap>where he seems to cross borders, cross lines, and he seems that it's possible that he's <wrap hide>171|00:15:55|500|00:16:01|480</wrap>talking into the third decanate in the counterclockwise order as well. <wrap hide>172|00:16:02|020|00:16:04|840</wrap>And Vulcan too becomes invisible, and only the Sun remains. <wrap hide>173|00:16:05|180|00:16:11|780</wrap>So definitely the second decan is involved here, because otherwise he wouldn't be mentioning <wrap hide>174|00:16:11|780|00:16:12|860</wrap>Vulcan, would he? <wrap hide>175|00:16:13|580|00:16:16|880</wrap><wrap quote>We have consequently a vision of the Sun,</wrap> <wrap hide>176|00:16:17|620|00:16:19|540</wrap>Now Jupiter provides the vision. <wrap hide>177|00:16:22|220|00:16:27|660</wrap>So the vision of the Sun and a great vision of light, we shall see light, etc., and that <wrap hide>178|00:16:27|660|00:16:36|960</wrap>it's Jupiterian and this vision can be the Sun which eventuates in the second, whoops, <wrap hide>179|00:16:36|960|00:16:43|660</wrap>eventuates in the second decan or even in the third by implication. <wrap hide>180|00:16:44|780|00:16:46|600</wrap>Okay, it's a great vision of light. <wrap hide>181|00:16:46|720|00:16:49|120</wrap>So we have the vision of the Sun provided by Jupiter in the first decanate. <wrap hide>182|00:16:49|120|00:16:54|740</wrap>We have <wrap quote>the experience of the personality</wrap> which is Vulcan Moon <wrap quote>and effort, which <wrap hide>183|00:16:54|740|00:16:57|940</wrap>is the mode of attainment governed by Mars.</wrap> <wrap hide>184|00:16:58|040|00:17:04|500</wrap>But effort towards what? As I have said, it is effort towards a great solar synthesis <wrap hide>185|00:17:04|500|00:17:12|100</wrap>which may prevail in relation to Pisces because Pisces and Aries in a way are going to be <wrap hide>186|00:17:12|100|00:17:12|900</wrap>the same sign. <wrap hide>187|00:17:13|040|00:17:19|640</wrap>So the great synthesis, the final synthesis of Pisces is the beginning of the initial <wrap hide>188|00:17:19|640|00:17:26|500</wrap>synthesis of Aries wherein the Brahman or the great absolute being or at least the one <wrap hide>189|00:17:26|500|00:17:28|220</wrap>being is realized. <wrap hide>190|00:17:28|480|00:17:31|500</wrap>You see how subtle this thing about the decanates really is. <wrap hide>191|00:17:31|500|00:17:36|440</wrap>D.K. is absolutely not using the concrete mind per se. <wrap hide>192|00:17:37|340|00:17:48|180</wrap>He is attempting to call upon our intuition and much is left to us as we attempt to understand <wrap hide>193|00:17:48|180|00:17:49|980</wrap>exactly what he's saying. <wrap hide>194|00:17:50|220|00:17:57|360</wrap>So I wanted to reread that because when I finished last night I realized that there's <wrap hide>195|00:17:57|360|00:17:59|960</wrap>more clarification to bring here. <wrap hide>196|00:17:59|960|00:18:08|380</wrap>Where I was, well here's the landscape view of Pisces and we were dealing with three constellations <wrap hide>197|00:18:08|380|00:18:13|960</wrap>which apply to all Piscean people but the band which we are attributing to the first <wrap hide>198|00:18:13|960|00:18:22|420</wrap>decanate, binding via consciousness or the power of life itself, the two fishes, we're <wrap hide>199|00:18:22|420|00:18:26|020</wrap>dealing with the chained woman, Andromeda in the second decanate. <wrap hide>200|00:18:26|020|00:18:34|620</wrap>She, as matter, she is rightfully chained; as soul she must be liberated, and then Cepheus <wrap hide>201|00:18:34|620|00:18:35|340</wrap>the king. <wrap hide>202|00:18:36|220|00:18:42|600</wrap>Okay, so there are some, you know, Pisces is a very subtle sign and naturally therefore <wrap hide>203|00:18:42|600|00:18:46|700</wrap>there are implications which are not exactly straightforward. <wrap hide>204|00:18:49|560|00:18:52|140</wrap>The six-fold development of Pisces, that's where I was. <wrap hide>205|00:18:52|700|00:19:05|460</wrap>Now coming down here I had shown us, I need to repeat that, that there are six decanates <wrap hide>206|00:19:05|460|00:19:06|740</wrap>to be considered. <wrap hide>207|00:19:07|700|00:19:11|420</wrap>Three on the clockwise wheel and three on the reversing wheel. <wrap hide>208|00:19:11|560|00:19:15|540</wrap>Now some theorists have said that the first decanate is strictly physical, the second <wrap hide>209|00:19:15|540|00:19:21|200</wrap>strictly emotional, the third strictly mental, the fourth and reversing decanate is strictly <wrap hide>210|00:19:21|200|00:19:27|780</wrap>personal, the fifth decanate is strictly the soul, fifth or second, and the third or <wrap hide>211|00:19:27|780|00:19:29|420</wrap>sixth decanate is strictly the spirit. <wrap hide>212|00:19:29|540|00:19:35|880</wrap>I don't think that any of this rigid strictness is advisable. <wrap hide>213|00:19:36|040|00:19:42|240</wrap>There may be tendencies toward the cultivation of those different areas of the human energy <wrap hide>214|00:19:42|240|00:19:42|840</wrap>system. <wrap hide>215|00:19:43|660|00:19:50|640</wrap>You know, such as a life in which physicality of some etheric, physical, etheric vital physicality <wrap hide>216|00:19:50|640|00:19:53|940</wrap>is cultivated even if the person is already fairly advanced. <wrap hide>217|00:19:54|080|00:19:54|820</wrap>This is possible. <wrap hide>218|00:19:55|200|00:20:02|960</wrap>Or whether emotional work is going on even though you may have quite a soul conscious <wrap hide>219|00:20:02|960|00:20:09|440</wrap>individual or where spirit is being contacted for the first time if one can do that. <wrap hide>220|00:20:10|340|00:20:12|800</wrap>But that is not of course always the case. <wrap hide>221|00:20:13|680|00:20:21|860</wrap>Basically it's on a case by case basis and we must examine each individual and see what <wrap hide>222|00:20:21|860|00:20:25|940</wrap>is possible in their particular case. <wrap hide>223|00:20:27|300|00:20:29|560</wrap>Now what I'm going to do here just for one moment. <wrap hide>224|00:20:32|480|00:20:41|100</wrap>Now what I did before, I'm trying to keep this microphone level steady if I possibly <wrap hide>225|00:20:41|100|00:20:41|640</wrap>can. <wrap hide>226|00:20:44|440|00:20:45|660</wrap>It's a little bit tricky. <wrap hide>227|00:20:47|020|00:20:53|340</wrap>What we did before is that we said, okay, it's very important to know something about <wrap hide>228|00:20:53|340|00:20:59|120</wrap>the clockwise wheel but we're not essentially dealing with the clockwise wheel when we're <wrap hide>229|00:20:59|120|00:21:00|580</wrap>working with esoteric astrology. <wrap hide>230|00:21:00|580|00:21:02|180</wrap>We're dealing with the counterclockwise wheel. <wrap hide>231|00:21:02|600|00:21:09|680</wrap>So what I did was I went down here and I discussed not the physical, not the emotional, not the <wrap hide>232|00:21:09|680|00:21:12|940</wrap>mental, which are all in a way under orthodox Jupiter. <wrap hide>233|00:21:14|180|00:21:22|940</wrap>But I went and discussed the, not the mental lower personal, but the aspirational, personal, <wrap hide>234|00:21:23|120|00:21:25|240</wrap>aspirational and integrating personality. <wrap hide>235|00:21:25|600|00:21:27|100</wrap>And I discussed that last time. <wrap hide>236|00:21:27|880|00:21:37|840</wrap>And I gave some meanings that would be under, if you follow the cursor here, under Jupiter, <wrap hide>237|00:21:37|840|00:21:43|080</wrap>under the moon, Vulcan, and under Mars for the personal aspirational stage. <wrap hide>238|00:21:43|760|00:21:46|440</wrap>Now obviously, you could feel these kinds of things in yourself. <wrap hide>239|00:21:46|640|00:21:50|280</wrap>I'm simply giving indications of how they might work. <wrap hide>240|00:21:50|720|00:21:55|740</wrap>Now we would reach the disciple, disciplic, or soul stage in general. <wrap hide>241|00:21:56|400|00:22:01|880</wrap>This is occurring because the individual is an advanced man and he's also at the point <wrap hide>242|00:22:01|880|00:22:07|940</wrap>of the first initiation at least, and maybe beyond that. <wrap hide>243|00:22:10|640|00:22:16|420</wrap>We are dealing with here the idea of Pluto as the ruler. <wrap hide>244|00:22:18|100|00:22:25|120</wrap>The mantrum is no longer "go forth into matter," matter being basically the type of energies <wrap hide>245|00:22:25|120|00:22:30|240</wrap>found in the personality area, but rather "I leave the father's home and turning back, <wrap hide>246|00:22:30|240|00:22:30|680</wrap>I save." <wrap hide>247|00:22:30|680|00:22:37|780</wrap>Now at this point, there is no real idea of what the monad is from the experiential point <wrap hide>248|00:22:37|780|00:22:38|180</wrap>of view. <wrap hide>249|00:22:38|840|00:22:43|160</wrap>There is, however, increasing sensitivity to soul and the person is becoming a mediator <wrap hide>250|00:22:43|160|00:22:49|280</wrap>as we see on Esoteric Psychology—excuse me, Esoteric Astrology page 333. <wrap hide>251|00:22:49|980|00:22:55|740</wrap>So in general in this phase, not just considering the decanates, the disciple is often selflessly <wrap hide>252|00:22:56|440|00:22:58|340</wrap>committed to the welfare of others. <wrap hide>253|00:22:58|340|00:23:02|840</wrap>The urge to help is very strong in Pisces, especially once the wheel is reversed. <wrap hide>254|00:23:03|560|00:23:08|520</wrap>He communes with the soul increasingly and is increasingly open to the spiritual dimensions <wrap hide>255|00:23:08|520|00:23:13|380</wrap>of his life rather than merely the psychic dimensions, because I think it's very important <wrap hide>256|00:23:13|380|00:23:19|540</wrap>that we realize that psychism is not spirituality—rather than merely the psychic. <wrap hide>257|00:23:20|140|00:23:27|680</wrap>Though his use of psychism may also increase, but put into a spiritual context, psychism <wrap hide>258|00:23:27|680|00:23:33|860</wrap>exists in the animals we are told, and in underdeveloped or undeveloped human beings it exists, but <wrap hide>259|00:23:33|860|00:23:36|260</wrap>it is no indication of real spirituality. <wrap hide>260|00:23:36|480|00:23:43|800</wrap>It is simply an ability to tune in with a certain level of phenomena that we call astral, <wrap hide>261|00:23:43|800|00:23:51|480</wrap>and that can certainly cover or clog or in some way inhibit the spiritual influence. <wrap hide>262|00:23:52|230|00:23:59|180</wrap>Under Pluto, the disciple—he is detaching from concern for his strictly personal fate, <wrap hide>263|00:23:59|180|00:24:04|820</wrap>and under Neptune, which is beginning to be operative for disciples in a spiritual way, <wrap hide>264|00:24:05|540|00:24:09|410</wrap>he is mastering the lessons of selflessness and self-abnegation. <wrap hide>265|00:24:10|280|00:24:12|520</wrap>In other words, he is beginning to dissolve his ego. <wrap hide>266|00:24:13|640|00:24:18|860</wrap>We realize that when the sun veils Neptune in Leo and we are moving towards the second <wrap hide>267|00:24:18|860|00:24:22|820</wrap>initiation, we can have the dissolution of the lower ego. <wrap hide>268|00:24:23|820|00:24:31|660</wrap>Pisces, which has such an affinity for Neptune, is a very good sign in which the lower ego <wrap hide>269|00:24:31|660|00:24:39|020</wrap>can be dissolved or at least widened into the sense of the group self or the group ego. <wrap hide>270|00:24:41|800|00:24:49|920</wrap>His sensitivity to others as souls—that should be a "his"—his sensitivity to others as souls <wrap hide>271|00:24:49|920|00:24:52|340</wrap>is well established. <wrap hide>272|00:24:52|780|00:24:59|000</wrap>It began to be developed as an aspiring personality in the previous of the six levels, and under <wrap hide>273|00:24:59|000|00:25:03|420</wrap>Jupiter he is the proven and successful disciple. <wrap hide>274|00:25:03|420|00:25:11|380</wrap>So now let us look at how Jupiter, the moon, Vulcan, and Mars might operate here in relation <wrap hide>275|00:25:11|380|00:25:16|900</wrap>to these three decanates considered in the counterclockwise order and therefore in the <wrap hide>276|00:25:16|900|00:25:19|480</wrap>normal order as we consider the astrological science. <wrap hide>277|00:25:20|320|00:25:26|540</wrap>So we will apply Jupiter to this particular stage of disciplic development, and what can <wrap hide>278|00:25:26|540|00:25:27|240</wrap>Jupiter give us? <wrap hide>279|00:25:27|800|00:25:32|640</wrap>The disciple is expanding his vision to include the reality of the soul. <wrap hide>280|00:25:32|640|00:25:39|440</wrap>In other words, he is expanding his consciousness—I will put that in as well—expanding consciousness <wrap hide>281|00:25:39|850|00:25:47|400</wrap>into soul consciousness, increasingly through meditation, study, and service. <wrap hide>282|00:25:48|760|00:25:51|380</wrap>Expanding, let's make that correct. <wrap hide>283|00:25:52|340|00:25:58|100</wrap>Okay, the band which stands for the Antahkarana, the constellation called the band standing <wrap hide>284|00:25:58|100|00:26:03|160</wrap>for the Antahkarana is operating between the pairs of opposites. <wrap hide>285|00:26:03|300|00:26:11|020</wrap>There's the first level of the Antahkarana, and that unites two phases of consciousness: <wrap hide>286|00:26:11|460|00:26:13|540</wrap>soul consciousness and personality consciousness. <wrap hide>287|00:26:14|300|00:26:19|840</wrap>But that's not so much the Antahkarana that we are building with D.K.'s specific visualization <wrap hide>288|00:26:19|840|00:26:20|220</wrap>methods. <wrap hide>289|00:26:20|220|00:26:26|840</wrap>We are building an Antahkarana ultimately between the consciousness aspect and the life aspect <wrap hide>290|00:26:27|540|00:26:31|680</wrap>which is the monad and is represented by the spiritual triad. <wrap hide>291|00:26:32|380|00:26:36|580</wrap>Let's see if there is anything else here which should be said—yes, Pluto is the esoteric <wrap hide>292|00:26:36|580|00:26:38|620</wrap>ruler, it dominates, yes. <wrap hide>293|00:26:39|340|00:26:46|860</wrap>Okay, now we will look... I'm not going over this excessively, although I do have a tendency <wrap hide>294|00:26:46|860|00:26:53|960</wrap>to repeat and ruminate, you know, because I realize that in my presenting of this book <wrap hide>295|00:26:53|960|00:26:59|500</wrap>in this particular fashion, I'm pondering it and speaking of my ponderings, and I'm offering <wrap hide>296|00:26:59|500|00:27:04|480</wrap>you the results of my ponderings. So whether they are in perfect order as they would be <wrap hide>297|00:27:04|480|00:27:08|000</wrap>in a written book, well, simply they're not, you know. <wrap hide>298|00:27:08|440|00:27:13|580</wrap>But I'm doing the best I can under the circumstances, and perhaps something additional will come <wrap hide>299|00:27:13|580|00:27:17|280</wrap>through through this method that could not come through in the other methods. <wrap hide>300|00:27:18|040|00:27:21|880</wrap>Now, if we apply for the second decanate, the moon is the ruler, but really it's Vulcan, <wrap hide>301|00:27:22|060|00:27:28|180</wrap>and ultimately it gives way to the sun, and Mercury begins to fall away in its normal <wrap hide>302|00:27:28|180|00:27:28|660</wrap>function. <wrap hide>303|00:27:31|980|00:27:37|740</wrap>The disciple masters his vehicles through the spiritual will—that's Vulcan—and the <wrap hide>304|00:27:37|740|00:27:43|580</wrap>vehicles, of course, are the moon, and they become increasingly radiant, and that's Vulcan too. <wrap hide>305|00:27:43|580|00:27:45|860</wrap>Andromeda is bound. <wrap hide>306|00:27:46|100|00:27:51|960</wrap>Andromeda, in her guise as matter and not soul, is bound. <wrap hide>307|00:27:52|940|00:28:08|560</wrap>And let's just say Andromeda, as the soul bound to matter or to form, is preparing to be <wrap hide>308|00:28:08|560|00:28:15|420</wrap>released, which Perseus will do in a different decanate. <wrap hide>309|00:28:15|560|00:28:23|540</wrap>So the woman is chained, but she is also the soul, and she must be released into freedom, <wrap hide>310|00:28:23|540|00:28:30|880</wrap>and Vulcan, at the fourth initiation, will be active in the release of the imprisoned soul. <wrap hide>311|00:28:30|880|00:28:40|620</wrap>Under Vulcan, the disciple is spiritually empowered, and I want to add that illumination increases. <wrap hide>312|00:28:41|620|00:28:51|180</wrap>Mercury, as intuition, is operative, but as concrete mind, it falls—it falls—that's the <wrap hide>313|00:28:51|180|00:28:53|860</wrap>word: falls away. <wrap hide>314|00:28:55|180|00:29:01|420</wrap>So that's a very complicated kind of second decanate there, because we have many things <wrap hide>315|00:29:01|420|00:29:06|680</wrap>going on, and it's not just the moon, as Alan Leo said. It's the moon, Vulcan, and Vulcan <wrap hide>316|00:29:06|680|00:29:09|680</wrap>giving way to the sun, and Mercury falling back. <wrap hide>317|00:29:11|960|00:29:17|680</wrap>Now we go to the third decanate. We're talking about the disciple, and I've simply put something <wrap hide>318|00:29:17|680|00:29:23|600</wrap>here that Mars is fighting towards the sun—Mercury is falling away—fighting towards <wrap hide>319|00:29:23|600|00:29:36|160</wrap>the sun, and I want to add the sun of synthesis, because if any sign is synthetic, it is this <wrap hide>320|00:29:36|160|00:29:42|160</wrap>climactic, consummatory sign, Pisces, which takes from all the signs, as we're told, and <wrap hide>321|00:29:42|160|00:29:48|420</wrap>blends and merges them, and they become, as it were, one final energy. <wrap hide>322|00:29:48|420|00:29:56|940</wrap>The disciple struggles to establish the predominance of the soul—the sun—and I would say, and <wrap hide>323|00:29:56|940|00:30:11|020</wrap>even of the spirit, because Pisces is often... is... is... sometimes the sign in which the <wrap hide>324|00:30:11|020|00:30:24|120</wrap>last incarnation is taken, and for those with a Shambolic destination—destiny. <wrap hide>325|00:30:24|540|00:30:25|780</wrap>But of course, we're not there yet. <wrap hide>326|00:30:26|600|00:30:30|100</wrap>Not there yet, because we're only dealing with the disciple. <wrap hide>327|00:30:31|440|00:30:38|100</wrap>And the disciple is still not yet the initiate of the third degree, though even all third <wrap hide>328|00:30:38|100|00:30:40|020</wrap>degrees and those beyond are disciples. <wrap hide>329|00:30:40|020|00:30:41|360</wrap>So I think you get the idea. <wrap hide>330|00:30:41|460|00:30:45|560</wrap>The important ones in these six-fold charts that I've prepared... Of course, it would be <wrap hide>331|00:30:45|560|00:30:52|900</wrap>interesting, when studying the history of humanity, to review, you know, what the people in the <wrap hide>332|00:30:52|900|00:30:57|840</wrap>Lemurian stage—not many of them now—many in the Atlantean stage, operative, and many <wrap hide>333|00:30:57|840|00:31:03|720</wrap>in the mentally focused stage, what they would be doing with these particular energies. <wrap hide>334|00:31:03|720|00:31:08|240</wrap>And it's, you know, a very deep study, and eventually the esoteric astrologer will also <wrap hide>335|00:31:08|240|00:31:18|640</wrap>have to study such people, because we want to be able to help give the picture of what <wrap hide>336|00:31:18|640|00:31:22|700</wrap>the entire process of human evolution really looks like. <wrap hide>337|00:31:23|280|00:31:29|400</wrap>But for our purposes and at this time, we need to apply these things to ourselves, who are <wrap hide>338|00:31:29|400|00:31:35|200</wrap>aspiring personalities. We are on the probationary path, we are disciples, we are probationary <wrap hide>339|00:31:35|200|00:31:41|240</wrap>initiates and moving towards initiation. Only very few have achieved that, and then a whole <wrap hide>340|00:31:41|240|00:31:45|060</wrap>new type of astrology, which we can hint at, begins to occur. <wrap hide>341|00:31:46|460|00:31:48|080</wrap>All right, now we move on. <wrap hide>342|00:31:49|160|00:31:55|220</wrap>I've tried to be, you know, a little meticulous about all this, but well, you know, I'll get <wrap hide>343|00:31:55|220|00:31:56|340</wrap>it in order one day. <wrap hide>344|00:31:56|940|00:32:03|540</wrap>Now we come to that stage of the Pisces experience which is initiatic, triadic, and monadic. <wrap hide>345|00:32:03|540|00:32:11|000</wrap>Now, you know, we could say, "Okay, when we're dealing with the aspiring personality, we should <wrap hide>346|00:32:11|000|00:32:16|420</wrap>really focus on the first decanate," but not the first decanate alone—no. <wrap hide>347|00:32:16|920|00:32:23|000</wrap>We do have to apply second and third decanate indications to that stage, because certainly <wrap hide>348|00:32:23|540|00:32:28|680</wrap>not all those who are aspiring personalities and born in Pisces are born in the first decanate. <wrap hide>349|00:32:28|760|00:32:29|720</wrap>That just doesn't make sense. <wrap hide>350|00:32:29|720|00:32:40|120</wrap>When we deal with the disciple, disciple soul, then we are, we might say, well, we should <wrap hide>351|00:32:40|120|00:32:44|960</wrap>really focus only on the second decanate, the moon, Vulcan leading to the sun, Mercury <wrap hide>352|00:32:44|960|00:32:50|760</wrap>falling away. But no, while there may be that kind of emphasis, there are certainly disciples <wrap hide>353|00:32:50|760|00:32:59|700</wrap>who are born in all stages, all places in Pisces, and the energies there have to be used <wrap hide>354|00:32:59|700|00:33:08|060</wrap>in a particular way suitable to the level of attainment which is theirs. <wrap hide>355|00:33:08|700|00:33:17|160</wrap>Now we go to the final stage, which is the initiatic coming in touch with the monad, and <wrap hide>356|00:33:17|160|00:33:22|800</wrap>we could say, well, we better just concentrate on the third decanate where Mars is the ruler. <wrap hide>357|00:33:23|130|00:33:31|460</wrap>And I would like to say, Mars leading to the final sun of synthesis. <wrap hide>358|00:33:33|240|00:33:39|640</wrap>But again, it doesn't make sense to say that, because we well know that there are many individuals <wrap hide>359|00:33:40|600|00:33:45|280</wrap>who are, let us say, at that initiatic stage who are not simply going to be born in the <wrap hide>360|00:33:45|280|00:33:47|060</wrap>final degrees of Pisces. <wrap hide>361|00:33:47|060|00:33:49|620</wrap>I'm thinking about Ramakrishna. <wrap hide>362|00:33:49|760|00:33:55|400</wrap>He was born with Aquarius as his sun sign. <wrap hide>363|00:33:56|040|00:33:57|040</wrap>Let's see if I can find that. <wrap hide>364|00:33:57|060|00:33:57|900</wrap>That might be interesting. <wrap hide>365|00:33:58|400|00:34:05|480</wrap>And he had quite a few Pisces indicators, but they were, I think, in the early degrees of <wrap hide>366|00:34:05|480|00:34:05|760</wrap>Pisces. <wrap hide>367|00:34:05|840|00:34:06|800</wrap>Let me check this for sure. <wrap hide>368|00:34:06|880|00:34:09|540</wrap>Maybe his moon was in the latter part of Pisces. <wrap hide>369|00:34:10|240|00:34:15|080</wrap>Just looking to get this Solar Fire thing heating up here. <wrap hide>370|00:34:15|500|00:34:15|760</wrap>Okay. <wrap hide>371|00:34:16|280|00:34:18|020</wrap>The moon is in Gemini. <wrap hide>372|00:34:18|360|00:34:19|100</wrap>I see that. <wrap hide>373|00:34:20|220|00:34:24|540</wrap>Okay, so let's see if we can find Ramakrishna. <wrap hide>374|00:34:27|580|00:34:30|580</wrap>Rama, Ramakrishna. <wrap hide>375|00:34:31|860|00:34:41|040</wrap>And if we can, we have quite, quite... Yeah, he was born in the last part of Aquarius, <wrap hide>376|00:34:41|340|00:34:41|760</wrap>they say. <wrap hide>377|00:34:42|120|00:34:43|320</wrap>28 degrees of Aquarius. <wrap hide>378|00:34:43|320|00:34:49|620</wrap>And they say Capricorn rising, but if you see all those Pisces planets that he has, <wrap hide>379|00:34:50|560|00:34:55|000</wrap>we cannot be sure, you know, 5 a.m. local mean time. It's possible, but it probably could <wrap hide>380|00:34:55|000|00:34:55|460</wrap>be adjusted. <wrap hide>381|00:34:55|660|00:35:01|960</wrap>Look, Uranus is in Pisces, first decanate. Mercury is in Pisces; it's a ruler of his, <wrap hide>382|00:35:02|280|00:35:10|420</wrap>and you know, we cannot be sure. It says he has 29 and 59 of Aquarius rising. <wrap hide>383|00:35:10|420|00:35:13|580</wrap>That's so suspicious because he acted like such a Piscean. <wrap hide>384|00:35:13|880|00:35:22|520</wrap>So my sense of the matter is that just in another minute or so, maybe at 5:01 or maybe <wrap hide>385|00:35:22|520|00:35:29|360</wrap>less, just a few seconds, he would have been born with zero degrees of Pisces rising. <wrap hide>386|00:35:29|940|00:35:32|840</wrap>And, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. <wrap hide>387|00:35:33|460|00:35:34|720</wrap>I have to take that back. <wrap hide>388|00:35:34|880|00:35:36|120</wrap>This is 29 Capricorn. <wrap hide>389|00:35:36|580|00:35:38|200</wrap>Maybe, maybe that is the case. <wrap hide>390|00:35:39|800|00:35:44|040</wrap>I thought it was Pisces for a minute, but I was mistaken, but there are three Pisces <wrap hide>391|00:35:44|040|00:35:52|900</wrap>planets, and two of them, Uranus and Mercury, are in the first decanate of Pisces, and Uranus <wrap hide>392|00:35:52|900|00:35:59|820</wrap>is a ruler, potentially, of the Aquarius. It is the ruler of the Aquarius sun, and it <wrap hide>393|00:35:59|820|00:36:04|700</wrap>is the ruler, potentially, of zero degrees Aquarius rising. <wrap hide>394|00:36:04|700|00:36:12|540</wrap>He certainly did, shall we say, manage a group in India through which he sought to build <wrap hide>395|00:36:12|540|00:36:16|220</wrap>the evolutionary energy for humanity. <wrap hide>396|00:36:17|060|00:36:22|840</wrap>So this is a chart with a lot of Pisces in it, and then we go to the second decanate of <wrap hide>397|00:36:22|840|00:36:27|280</wrap>Pisces where we have the moon, and that's in the Cancer decanate, interestingly enough, <wrap hide>398|00:36:27|440|00:36:34|280</wrap>and Jupiter, which is the esoteric ruler of his sun because he is an initiate, is found <wrap hide>399|00:36:34|280|00:36:35|940</wrap>in the first decan of Cancer. <wrap hide>400|00:36:36|680|00:36:42|280</wrap>And you know, it was a spiritual family relationship, Jupiter and Uranus, Jupiter and Juno. <wrap hide>401|00:36:42|460|00:36:51|360</wrap>He did marry, but of course he was a celibate, and his family was a spiritual family, and <wrap hide>402|00:36:51|360|00:37:00|360</wrap>not only will Jupiter be the esoteric ruler... Let's see, it is the esoteric ruler of Aquarius, <wrap hide>403|00:37:00|360|00:37:05|220</wrap>but if in another few seconds he has Aquarius on the ascendant, because I do believe in <wrap hide>404|00:37:05|220|00:37:12|280</wrap>a way he transcended the third degree, I look at him as a fourth degree type, almost a fifth <wrap hide>405|00:37:12|280|00:37:16|920</wrap>degree type, and Jupiter would be the ruler of that Aquarius ascendant. <wrap hide>406|00:37:17|280|00:37:21|820</wrap>So we have very strong signs of consummation. <wrap hide>407|00:37:22|480|00:37:28|280</wrap>Neptune, the ruler of Pisces rising, Neptune the veiled ruler of Aquarius in the last decanate, <wrap hide>408|00:37:28|280|00:37:31|640</wrap>One of the rulers veiled in the last decanate of Aquarius. <wrap hide>409|00:37:33|260|00:37:34|740</wrap>We have that rising. <wrap hide>410|00:37:36|520|00:37:47|580</wrap>We have an individual who combined the consummatory effects of Aquarius and Pisces together. <wrap hide>411|00:37:48|260|00:37:56|340</wrap>We do have Venus in Aries, and he was very quickly attracted to people in the spiritual <wrap hide>412|00:37:56|340|00:38:01|840</wrap>sense. And Pluto is in Aries as well, and he exerted a profound transformational effect <wrap hide>413|00:38:01|840|00:38:06|780</wrap>upon all of his students and really students that became his all over the world. <wrap hide>414|00:38:07|160|00:38:10|600</wrap>Whenever they say, you know, he's born at five o'clock, you have to be a little suspicious. <wrap hide>415|00:38:12|060|00:38:20|820</wrap>I don't—he looks more like Aquarius rising to me than he does Capricorn rising, but I <wrap hide>416|00:38:20|820|00:38:26|600</wrap>just wanted to point out how important—here's an initiate with many indicators in the early <wrap hide>417|00:38:26|600|00:38:32|340</wrap>part of Pisces and not just in the last part, and this individual was a spiritual individual. <wrap hide>418|00:38:32|520|00:38:35|100</wrap>He was monadically responsive. <wrap hide>419|00:38:35|260|00:38:41|700</wrap>He was a high initiate, and we see that there's nothing in the latter degrees of Pisces, twenty <wrap hide>420|00:38:41|700|00:38:44|060</wrap>to thirty, but only in the early parts. <wrap hide>421|00:38:44|500|00:38:51|680</wrap>So my point is simply this: that we cannot be rigid about our categorization when we <wrap hide>422|00:38:51|680|00:38:55|240</wrap>say those individuals who are working on this will be born here. <wrap hide>423|00:38:55|460|00:38:56|480</wrap>It's not so. <wrap hide>424|00:38:56|760|00:39:02|740</wrap>There may be some emphasis because they are born in a certain decanate, but it all depends <wrap hide>425|00:39:02|740|00:39:04|740</wrap>on their particular stage of evolution. <wrap hide>426|00:39:05|240|00:39:11|740</wrap>There are many people born in the last degrees of Pisces who are simply early disciples, or <wrap hide>427|00:39:11|740|00:39:17|740</wrap>those born in the first degrees of Pisces who are high initiates, and I'm sure we can <wrap hide>428|00:39:17|740|00:39:22|560</wrap>prove that if we just study the world's famous spiritual people. <wrap hide>429|00:39:23|420|00:39:30|080</wrap>All right, now we're dealing with the initiatic, triadic, monadic level. <wrap hide>430|00:39:31|300|00:39:36|900</wrap>It's Pluto under Pluto because it's the hierarchical ruler, and the statement is "I leave the Father's <wrap hide>431|00:39:36|900|00:39:41|720</wrap>home and turning back I save," and it's really beginning to mean something because by this <wrap hide>432|00:39:41|720|00:39:48|100</wrap>time the individual initiate has the monad in sight and after the third degree has begun <wrap hide>433|00:39:48|100|00:39:54|560</wrap>to respond to the monad, and the key phrase "spiritual responsibility" is there. <wrap hide>434|00:39:55|620|00:40:03|280</wrap>There we seem to see something of the Saturnian effect because there is the opportunity to <wrap hide>435|00:40:03|280|00:40:09|260</wrap>work off karma. We are told in the Sepharial decanates and to assume responsibility for <wrap hide>436|00:40:09|260|00:40:12|440</wrap>those who have fallen and those who need to be redeemed. <wrap hide>437|00:40:13|580|00:40:21|880</wrap>The Dalai Lama, according to one chart with Libra rising, has Saturn in Pisces. Yeah, he <wrap hide>438|00:40:21|880|00:40:25|500</wrap>definitely has Saturn in Pisces, and it's in the sixth house. <wrap hide>439|00:40:26|000|00:40:31|280</wrap>He has Neptune in the Pisces house, being in Virgo, and the moon there as well. <wrap hide>440|00:40:31|740|00:40:38|160</wrap>So he is one high soul who knows how to assume spiritual responsibility, and finally we have <wrap hide>441|00:40:38|160|00:40:44|180</wrap>the idea of the savior, which is certainly a monadic connection in relation to Pisces, <wrap hide>442|00:40:44|660|00:40:47|440</wrap>Jupiter being very important there and Neptune as well. <wrap hide>443|00:40:48|500|00:40:52|680</wrap>The initiate is concluding his experience in the lower three worlds as a member of the <wrap hide>444|00:40:52|680|00:40:53|280</wrap>human kingdom. <wrap hide>445|00:40:54|200|00:41:01|780</wrap>Under Pluto and Neptune, he is sacrificing all for the sake of redeeming his fellow human <wrap hide>446|00:41:01|780|00:41:02|480</wrap>beings. <wrap hide>447|00:41:02|480|00:41:07|820</wrap>He has achieved detachment from the world of personality—that's via Pluto and Neptune— <wrap hide>448|00:41:07|820|00:41:14|820</wrap>and is centering in soul and in the perception of unity, so his consciousness is also triadic <wrap hide>449|00:41:15|520|00:41:18|040</wrap>and even monadic shortly. <wrap hide>450|00:41:18|460|00:41:24|140</wrap>He is surrendering to the higher will, so he understands something of the Atmic plane here, <wrap hide>451|00:41:24|140|00:41:32|940</wrap>which is interestingly enough a plane of water, at least is described in the compilation or <wrap hide>452|00:41:32|940|00:41:35|940</wrap>the table which D.K. made of the creative hierarchies. <wrap hide>453|00:41:36|280|00:41:42|740</wrap>Disidentified from personality and later even from the soul—and when I say soul here, I shouldn't— <wrap hide>454|00:41:42|740|00:41:47|280</wrap>you know, it shouldn't only be soul; it should be soul on the higher mental plane. <wrap hide>455|00:41:48|120|00:41:52|400</wrap>He lives by the mantram "Not my will, Father, but thine be done." <wrap hide>456|00:41:53|260|00:41:58|860</wrap>So we can see how much Neptune—self-sacrificing Neptune—will be coming in for the initiatic <wrap hide>457|00:41:58|860|00:42:03|960</wrap>type in the sixth phase. <wrap hide>458|00:42:04|500|00:42:07|980</wrap>The sixth phase being really the triadic monadic phase. <wrap hide>459|00:42:08|160|00:42:14|520</wrap>I guess I could make a seventh phase somehow and discriminate the triadic experience <wrap hide>460|00:42:14|520|00:42:20|100</wrap>of Atma-Buddhi-Manas from the final monadic experience, but it would not really be so relevant <wrap hide>461|00:42:20|100|00:42:26|660</wrap>to us, I think. If we consider states beyond the third where the triad is being cultivated <wrap hide>462|00:42:27|680|00:42:33|100</wrap>and the monad is in sight and being experienced, I think that's sufficient. I think we can bring <wrap hide>463|00:42:33|100|00:42:33|660</wrap>them together. <wrap hide>464|00:42:34|320|00:42:43|740</wrap>Now let us go to the decanates, and it will be again Jupiter for the first decanate on <wrap hide>465|00:42:43|740|00:42:44|860</wrap>the counterclockwise wheel. <wrap hide>466|00:42:45|420|00:42:48|760</wrap>The initiate sees and envisions the Sun. <wrap hide>467|00:42:48|960|00:42:51|200</wrap>The Sun of Synthesis. <wrap hide>468|00:42:51|880|00:42:53|600</wrap>So Jupiter is conferring a vision. <wrap hide>469|00:42:55|100|00:43:14|560</wrap>Sun... let's see, the Sun of Synthesis and Jupiter rules the monadic plane, and the initiate has <wrap hide>470|00:43:14|560|00:43:25|220</wrap>a vibratory response to the expansive awareness of the monadic plane. <wrap hide>471|00:43:27|700|00:43:30|060</wrap>Monadic... of the monadic plane. <wrap hide>472|00:43:31|480|00:43:38|240</wrap>Yes, Jupiter attunes him not just to Buddhi, which of course this phase does attune to, <wrap hide>473|00:43:38|240|00:43:44|260</wrap>but eventually to the monadic plane itself and to the great generosity of the eternal <wrap hide>474|00:43:44|260|00:43:55|780</wrap>pilgrimage... attuned to the great generosity of the divine pilgrimage of the monad as the <wrap hide>475|00:43:55|780|00:44:00|840</wrap>jiva descending into the lower five worlds, remembering of course that the monad stays <wrap hide>476|00:44:00|840|00:44:06|600</wrap>on its own plane even as it descends, and that's one of the mysteries of emanation. <wrap hide>477|00:44:07|060|00:44:09|760</wrap>How can you be in more than one place at the same time? <wrap hide>478|00:44:10|020|00:44:13|480</wrap>Well, maybe there isn't more than one place after all. <wrap hide>479|00:44:13|480|00:44:16|600</wrap>Maybe the idea of place is just a seeming. <wrap hide>480|00:44:17|800|00:44:25|340</wrap>So there is entry into triadic and monadic awareness. <wrap hide>481|00:44:27|360|00:44:39|300</wrap>And the Antahkarana, as the band, connects to all aspects of the triad and to the monad. <wrap hide>482|00:44:39|300|00:44:44|300</wrap>See, there's different things that band can represent. <wrap hide>483|00:44:44|440|00:44:50|380</wrap>The band of bondage, but it can represent the band of growing consciousness, and it can <wrap hide>484|00:44:50|380|00:44:56|700</wrap>also represent the Antahkaranic band which leads all the way from the lowest to <wrap hide>485|00:44:56|700|00:44:59|180</wrap>the highest in man's microcosmic system. <wrap hide>486|00:45:00|100|00:45:07|380</wrap>Then when we look at what it would be like in the Vulcan-Moon area, which leads also to <wrap hide>487|00:45:07|380|00:45:13|380</wrap>the Sun, the initiate proves the radiance of the Sun through the will-bound personality. <wrap hide>488|00:45:14|620|00:45:19|240</wrap>So he consummates the sequence. <wrap hide>489|00:45:21|220|00:45:23|940</wrap>Who consummates the sequence? <wrap hide>490|00:45:27|700|00:45:28|840</wrap>Whoops, what am I doing? <wrap hide>491|00:45:28|840|00:45:38|180</wrap>Okay, from Moon to Vulcan, and Vulcan gives way to great radiance. <wrap hide>492|00:45:40|800|00:45:49|820</wrap>And let us say that matter is completely bound and the soul is being set free. <wrap hide>493|00:45:52|040|00:45:56|680</wrap>So this is really the escape from bondage. <wrap hide>494|00:45:58|060|00:46:03|980</wrap>And Vulcan... remember what we said about Vulcan, that it does forge chains of bondage because <wrap hide>495|00:46:03|980|00:46:06|120</wrap>it's a very physical planet in the early days. <wrap hide>496|00:46:06|660|00:46:09|880</wrap>Even a hidden, undiscovered planet can have a very physical effect. <wrap hide>497|00:46:10|360|00:46:21|560</wrap>But later it breaks those chains and creates... let's just say, forges chains which connect <wrap hide>498|00:46:22|100|00:46:23|700</wrap>to the spirit aspect. <wrap hide>499|00:46:23|700|00:46:28|320</wrap>And let's just say subtle chains because they're not really chains. <wrap hide>500|00:46:28|580|00:46:36|280</wrap>They are simply subtle chains of connection which connect to the spirit aspect. <wrap hide>501|00:46:37|220|00:46:41|100</wrap>So there is increasing illumination coming in. <wrap hide>502|00:46:41|640|00:46:46|660</wrap>Now, does the Sun aspect only apply to the second decanate? <wrap hide>503|00:46:46|840|00:46:51|160</wrap>Well, Vulcan is specifically named in the second decanate, and therefore Vulcan and the Sun <wrap hide>504|00:46:51|160|00:46:55|480</wrap>are ones that... does imply, but there is the idea that only the Sun remains. <wrap hide>505|00:46:56|620|00:47:02|280</wrap>And I have the tendency to want to apply this phrase, "only the Sun remains," to the entire <wrap hide>506|00:47:05|300|00:47:09|060</wrap>experience of Pisces and to the final decanate. <wrap hide>507|00:47:09|820|00:47:12|040</wrap>And so let us see what is said here. <wrap hide>508|00:47:14|040|00:47:19|880</wrap>These are just sketchy remarks that I've prepared for teaching some esoteric astrology classes <wrap hide>509|00:47:19|880|00:47:24|240</wrap>in Finland, but they can be expanded, of course. <wrap hide>510|00:47:25|120|00:47:34|420</wrap>From 20 to 30 degrees, where we have Mars as the ruler and we are certainly under hierarchical <wrap hide>511|00:47:34|420|00:47:38|540</wrap>Pluto, there's really an annihilation of connection with all that hinders. <wrap hide>512|00:47:38|920|00:47:44|280</wrap>The initiate, through strenuous effort—that's Mars—and conflict, achieves liberation into <wrap hide>513|00:47:44|280|00:47:47|440</wrap>the established Sun of soul and spirit. <wrap hide>514|00:47:47|440|00:47:54|260</wrap>In other words, what I'm saying here is I'm taking D.K.'s words when he says like this: <wrap hide>515|00:47:54|520|00:47:57|940</wrap>"...and only the Sun remains." <wrap hide>516|00:47:58|700|00:48:08|200</wrap>Certainly it doesn't seem right to end the possibly most climactic decanate in the entire <wrap hide>517|00:48:08|200|00:48:10|560</wrap>zodiac only with Mars. <wrap hide>518|00:48:10|700|00:48:15|060</wrap>It's got to be Mars as it leads into that great sense of synthesis. <wrap hide>519|00:48:15|480|00:48:21|180</wrap>The initiate knows the reality of Cepheus, the monad, or King of Shambhala. <wrap hide>520|00:48:21|300|00:48:26|480</wrap>The monad is automatically a member of Shambhala in its own right. <wrap hide>521|00:48:27|120|00:48:32|680</wrap>The monad of the solar angel is a member of the council within the Sun, so they are a higher <wrap hide>522|00:48:32|680|00:48:34|980</wrap>order of being all together. <wrap hide>523|00:48:34|980|00:48:42|040</wrap>By this time, let us say Mercury and the Sun are definitely one. <wrap hide>524|00:48:42|760|00:48:48|140</wrap>Mercury and the Sun are definitely one. <wrap hide>525|00:48:50|560|00:49:01|040</wrap>The infallible intuition is operative, and this is the word identification as the Sun <wrap hide>526|00:49:01|520|00:49:04|460</wrap>of synthesis takes place. <wrap hide>527|00:49:04|460|00:49:09|700</wrap>Now we're looking at a very high level here where the man is identified as the spirit <wrap hide>528|00:49:09|700|00:49:18|160</wrap>and the Sun of synthesis is emerging, and it is the final remaining influence. <wrap hide>529|00:49:18|680|00:49:27|820</wrap>Everything else, all else is absorbed into the Sun of synthesis. <wrap hide>530|00:49:28|380|00:49:33|080</wrap>So I think it's very important to follow what D.K. has said here. <wrap hide>531|00:49:33|740|00:49:39|120</wrap>He seems to be hinting at the power of the Sun climatically. <wrap hide>532|00:49:39|860|00:49:47|120</wrap>He does revert at the very end, you know, he just says, "Okay, a vision of the Sun, there's <wrap hide>533|00:49:47|120|00:49:49|260</wrap>experience and then there's struggle." <wrap hide>534|00:49:49|420|00:49:58|400</wrap>He reverts back to the normal rulers of Jupiter, Moon, Vulcan and Mars. <wrap hide>535|00:49:58|400|00:50:06|620</wrap>But in the body of the text he's implying some sort of great synthesis here which is <wrap hide>536|00:50:06|620|00:50:13|160</wrap>occurring for the highest initiates who are Shambhala bound in the sign Pisces. <wrap hide>537|00:50:13|680|00:50:22|660</wrap>And we oftentimes see that it's the last decanate where the truly spirit-oriented developments <wrap hide>538|00:50:22|660|00:50:23|180</wrap>do occur. <wrap hide>539|00:50:23|180|00:50:32|100</wrap>This is absolutely true in the case of Capricorn where we have Vulcan, Mercury and the Sun <wrap hide>540|00:50:32|100|00:50:32|920</wrap>again. <wrap hide>541|00:50:33|600|00:50:35|840</wrap>These three in a blazing synthesis. <wrap hide>542|00:50:36|020|00:50:44|760</wrap>I wouldn't be surprised when we look at the last decanate of Aquarius which is ruled by <wrap hide>543|00:50:44|760|00:50:45|400</wrap>Venus. <wrap hide>544|00:50:45|760|00:50:49|300</wrap>There is a synthesis occurring there, a kind of a transfiguration. <wrap hide>545|00:50:49|300|00:50:59|020</wrap>So the last decanate of any sign in the counterclockwise order does carry a particular kind of potency, <wrap hide>546|00:50:59|020|00:51:08|000</wrap>but we cannot take that example too far and try to exclude others from being born in it <wrap hide>547|00:51:08|000|00:51:13|300</wrap>or raise those who are being born in it to initiate status. <wrap hide>548|00:51:13|500|00:51:14|700</wrap>We can't do that. <wrap hide>549|00:51:15|480|00:51:22|840</wrap>Okay, well we are... this is taking a little longer than I thought to work through these <wrap hide>550|00:51:22|840|00:51:24|880</wrap>decanates in Pisces. <wrap hide>551|00:51:26|460|00:51:30|040</wrap>But I hope there is some degree of clarity about it. <wrap hide>552|00:51:30|120|00:51:36|840</wrap>You know, I've often found in examining the rays of Piscean people that a kind of vagueness <wrap hide>553|00:51:36|840|00:51:44|300</wrap>or fluidity, a kind of blurred image occurs due to the Neptunian effect. <wrap hide>554|00:51:46|240|00:51:52|140</wrap>I've examined the rays of two people born in Pisces with a strong Cancerian, another <wrap hide>555|00:51:52|140|00:51:55|000</wrap>water sign influence, and it was just very difficult. <wrap hide>556|00:51:55|160|00:52:00|100</wrap>Both of them had the second ray and the third ray, but it was very difficult to tell in each <wrap hide>557|00:52:00|100|00:52:02|600</wrap>case which was the soul and which was the personality. <wrap hide>558|00:52:02|600|00:52:07|000</wrap>And I attribute that to the Piscean effect. <wrap hide>559|00:52:08|980|00:52:13|960</wrap>There is a little bit more... well let's see, let's go back to these decanates in landscape <wrap hide>560|00:52:13|960|00:52:15|220</wrap>view just reviewing this. <wrap hide>561|00:52:15|920|00:52:19|060</wrap>The first decanate is Pisces. <wrap hide>562|00:52:19|200|00:52:21|380</wrap>Pisces, the second Pisces, Cancer. <wrap hide>563|00:52:23|060|00:52:27|980</wrap>And we, you know, often with Cancer there is this type of bondage which occurs. <wrap hide>564|00:52:27|980|00:52:32|740</wrap>And then Pisces, Scorpio, bringing a kind of liberation. <wrap hide>565|00:52:33|620|00:52:38|040</wrap>The constellations are the band for the first decanate, Andromeda for the second decanate, <wrap hide>566|00:52:38|160|00:52:44|060</wrap>Cepheus for the third, and yet all three of them operative in the case of all Piscean <wrap hide>567|00:52:44|060|00:52:44|640</wrap>people. <wrap hide>568|00:52:45|620|00:52:50|940</wrap>The Alan Leo, the Tibetan's decanates, well Alan Leo's decanates are Jupiter, the Moon <wrap hide>569|00:52:50|940|00:52:56|920</wrap>and Mars, and Sepharial's decanates Saturn, Jupiter and Mars, remembering though that <wrap hide>570|00:52:56|920|00:53:06|160</wrap>these astrologers are working in a counterclockwise manner, the ordinary direction, and we have... <wrap hide>571|00:53:06|160|00:53:11|840</wrap>so therefore they're moving from 0 to 10, 10 to 20, and 20 to 30, even though we as <wrap hide>572|00:53:11|840|00:53:20|700</wrap>esoteric astrologers may assume that some people are entering the decanates in the reverse <wrap hide>573|00:53:20|700|00:53:26|860</wrap>order, with the 30 to 20, then 20 to 10, and 10 to 0. <wrap hide>574|00:53:27|320|00:53:34|260</wrap>The Tibetan's decanates, as he gives them is Jupiter, the Moon, but the complicated second <wrap hide>575|00:53:34|260|00:53:40|360</wrap>decanate gives us the Moon, Vulcan, and finally the Sun replacing Vulcan, and then in the <wrap hide>576|00:53:40|360|00:53:46|000</wrap>last decanate we have, with Mercury falling away, and in the last decanate definitely <wrap hide>577|00:53:46|000|00:53:53|360</wrap>Mars, but this struggle in Mars is towards a final victory which places the Sun of synthesis <wrap hide>578|00:53:53|360|00:53:59|120</wrap>in a prominent position and Mercury falls, I want to say, entirely. <wrap hide>579|00:54:00|200|00:54:05|260</wrap>And I will also say that in a way, at this point, and I didn't include the exaltation <wrap hide>580|00:54:05|260|00:54:18|200</wrap>but I should have, that Venus is exalted here in this final decanate as the solar angels <wrap hide>581|00:54:19|770|00:54:28|720</wrap>return to the heart of the Sun due to the liberation of the human being. <wrap hide>582|00:54:30|660|00:54:37|040</wrap>Okay, so let me just see here. If I go to home, and this is an 8, yes. <wrap hide>583|00:54:37|940|00:54:40|200</wrap>Alright, so Venus is exalted here. <wrap hide>584|00:54:40|800|00:54:48|060</wrap>You see, we're dealing with several kinds of rulerships at the same time. <wrap hide>585|00:54:48|900|00:54:54|420</wrap>We are dealing, of course, with the esoteric ruler, the esoteric ruler, the esoteric ruler, <wrap hide>586|00:54:54|520|00:54:55|880</wrap>and the hierarchical ruler, yes. <wrap hide>587|00:54:55|880|00:55:03|280</wrap>We are dealing with exaltation—whoops, hopefully that's not going to do something strange— <wrap hide>588|00:55:03|860|00:55:08|380</wrap>we're dealing with exaltation, detriment, and fall, yes. <wrap hide>589|00:55:08|920|00:55:15|140</wrap>And then we're dealing, and they all mix into this whole expression of the decanates. <wrap hide>590|00:55:15|800|00:55:20|740</wrap>Then we're dealing with the rulers of the decanates presented in the Chaldean system <wrap hide>591|00:55:20|740|00:55:28|100</wrap>by Sepharial, in the Hindu or Indian system by Alan Leo, and in a deeper esoteric sense <wrap hide>592|00:55:28|100|00:55:29|760</wrap>by the Tibetan. <wrap hide>593|00:55:30|120|00:55:37|840</wrap>We're also dealing with constellations that are pouring their energies into various decanates <wrap hide>594|00:55:37|840|00:55:39|820</wrap>and into the sign entirely. <wrap hide>595|00:55:40|300|00:55:43|840</wrap>What a great mix of energies we have. <wrap hide>596|00:55:44|560|00:55:50|060</wrap>But some confusion could result, and we have to rely upon the intuition to help us choose <wrap hide>597|00:55:50|640|00:55:54|500</wrap>that which is most appropriate in the case of any individual. <wrap hide>598|00:55:54|640|00:55:58|120</wrap>Really, when you're doing the decanates of somebody, you really have to sit down with <wrap hide>599|00:55:58|120|00:56:03|320</wrap>them and sort of determine where they are and what that decanate can really mean to <wrap hide>600|00:56:03|320|00:56:03|520</wrap>them. <wrap hide>601|00:56:03|560|00:56:06|780</wrap>The decanate in which their sun is found, the decanate in which their rising sign is <wrap hide>602|00:56:06|780|00:56:07|220</wrap>found. <wrap hide>603|00:56:07|220|00:56:16|800</wrap>The appropriate rulers of that decanate by several systems, the connection of extrazodiacal <wrap hide>604|00:56:16|800|00:56:22|280</wrap>constellations to the system, to that decanate. <wrap hide>605|00:56:23|120|00:56:31|980</wrap>And then just the ordinary division: what triplicity, what other factor in the triplicity <wrap hide>606|00:56:31|980|00:56:34|260</wrap>in which they are born is operative. <wrap hide>607|00:56:34|260|00:56:38|900</wrap>If they're born in the Pisces-Cancer decanate, it's different from the Pisces-Scorpio decanate, <wrap hide>608|00:56:38|900|00:56:41|660</wrap>just on the basis of the signs alone. <wrap hide>609|00:56:42|780|00:56:47|700</wrap>So, you know, and then of course the question is: are you coming, or are you going, or are <wrap hide>610|00:56:47|700|00:56:49|560</wrap>you operating in both ways? <wrap hide>611|00:56:50|040|00:56:56|360</wrap>D.K. has said that humanity as a whole is entering the age of Aquarius under Venus because they're <wrap hide>612|00:56:56|360|00:57:01|600</wrap>going in reverse order in a larger sense, but at the same time he said we're all undergoing <wrap hide>613|00:57:01|600|00:57:07|480</wrap>that Saturn experience of the first decanate from zero to ten, whether we are disciples <wrap hide>614|00:57:07|480|00:57:10|560</wrap>or everybody—we're all entering via Saturn. <wrap hide>615|00:57:11|380|00:57:15|260</wrap>So, you know, you can kind of have your cake and eat it too here. <wrap hide>616|00:57:15|660|00:57:20|440</wrap>It's not just isolating one little box in which you are operative. <wrap hide>617|00:57:20|740|00:57:28|040</wrap>The fluidity of the decanate study has to be kept in mind, and the intuition has to be <wrap hide>618|00:57:28|040|00:57:28|560</wrap>operative. <wrap hide>619|00:57:29|600|00:57:34|660</wrap>Okay, well, I think we have reached the point where we can together do The Great Invocation, <wrap hide>620|00:57:34|660|00:57:48|900</wrap>and if all goes well, I should be able to finish the Pisces work in the next time around. <wrap hide>621|00:57:49|120|00:57:49|580</wrap>Let's just see. <wrap hide>622|00:57:50|120|00:57:55|420</wrap>Yeah, I think—yes, yes—I will be able to finish Pisces the next time around. <wrap hide>623|00:57:55|440|00:58:12|020</wrap>So this is the end of EAA 59 and still on page 133 on decanates and using also the six-fold <wrap hide>624|00:58:12|020|00:58:18|760</wrap>table and the large decanate tabulation. <wrap hide>625|00:58:19|620|00:58:29|700</wrap>All right, so we will then conclude with The Great Invocation, and there it is. <wrap hide>626|00:58:29|940|00:58:32|080</wrap>All right, we're fortunate—it's right there. <wrap hide>627|00:58:32|320|00:58:33|720</wrap>So let's work together. <wrap hide>628|00:58:38|980|00:58:39|620</wrap>Om. <wrap hide>629|00:58:45|340|00:58:50|940</wrap>From the point of light within the mind of God, let light stream forth into the minds <wrap hide>630|00:58:50|940|00:58:54|360</wrap>of men. Let light descend on earth. <wrap hide>631|00:58:56|920|00:59:02|460</wrap>From the point of love within the heart of God, let love stream forth into the hearts <wrap hide>632|00:59:02|460|00:59:05|700</wrap>of men. May Christ return to earth. <wrap hide>633|00:59:08|180|00:59:13|840</wrap>From the center where the will of God is known, let purpose guide the little wills of men— <wrap hide>634|00:59:14|240|00:59:17|620</wrap>the purpose which the masters know and serve. <wrap hide>635|00:59:20|080|00:59:25|020</wrap>From the center which we call the race of men, let the plan of love and light work out, <wrap hide>636|00:59:25|180|00:59:28|960</wrap>and may it seal the door where evil dwells. <wrap hide>637|00:59:29|560|00:59:35|340</wrap>Let light and love and power restore the plan on earth. <wrap hide>638|00:59:39|120|00:59:40|520</wrap>Om. <wrap hide>639|00:59:48|900|00:59:50|300</wrap>Om. <wrap hide>640|01:00:10|300|01:00:18|820</wrap>Okay friends, thank you, and we will return with Esoteric Astrology Adventure number 60, <wrap hide>641|01:00:18|820|01:00:23|640</wrap>concluding Pisces and moving forward. And we'll see you then. Bye-bye.
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