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-	<wrap hide>1\|00:00:02\|480\|00:00:10\|320</wrap>Hello everybody, this is our 78th Esoteric Astrology adventure. <wrap hide>2\|00:00:11\|120\|00:00:23\|960</wrap>We have been working through the Scorpio chapter after some pause, and here we have page 213. <wrap hide>3\|00:00:23\|960\|00:00:31\|740</wrap>That's where we came to, and I think it is worthwhile to look at a little of what we said before. <wrap hide>4\|00:00:33\|580\|00:00:42\|920</wrap>We're talking about the way that under the sixth ray, a religion such as Christianity can be slanted <wrap hide>5\|00:00:42\|920\|00:00:49\|740</wrap>in a certain direction which was not at all intended by its founder. We're speaking of <wrap hide>6\|00:00:49\|740\|00:00:58\|580</wrap>Saint Paul, who was a disciple at that time, moving towards the third degree, but having passed the second <wrap hide>7\|00:00:58\|580\|00:01:09\|880</wrap>and intensely involved in the whole apparent conflict between the Judaism of the time, and the emerging sect <wrap hide>8\|00:01:09\|880\|00:01:16\|800</wrap>within Judaism called... well, I don't know if it was called Christianity at that time, but it was an emerging <wrap hide>9\|00:01:16\|800\|00:01:25\|760</wrap>sect that believed in the Master Jesus, or the Initiate Jesus, and his resurrection, and his promises, <wrap hide>10\|00:01:26\|060\|00:01:36\|920</wrap>and that which the Christ said through using the body of the Initiate Jesus. Interesting that Jesus <wrap hide>11\|00:01:36\|920\|00:01:48\|760</wrap>himself had taken not only the second initiation as Joshua, but the third initiation as Joshua the High Priest. <wrap hide>12\|00:01:48\|840\|00:01:58\|100</wrap>And so we see that Saint Paul at the time was still an initiate of the second degree, though working through <wrap hide>13\|00:01:58\|100\|00:02:09\|140</wrap>the third, and probably it is to be suspected taking the fourth initiation as a representative of the new sect <wrap hide>14\|00:02:09\|140\|00:02:18\|400</wrap>of Christianity. It's interesting to see when those who are our present masters, the ones we work with most <wrap hide>15\|00:02:18\|400\|00:02:27\|420</wrap>closely, when they took the various initiations. Apparently Master Morya, who may well have been Moses, <wrap hide>16\|00:02:28\|260\|00:02:39\|720</wrap>took the third degree when receiving the law. Some think that was a very long time ago. Others place it more <wrap hide>17\|00:02:39\|720\|00:02:52\|340</wrap>in the time of Joshua before the wandering in the wilderness, before the fleeing from the land of Egypt, <wrap hide>18\|00:02:53\|600\|00:03:00\|880</wrap>or not before that, but following that episode of fleeing from the land of Egypt and wandering in the wilderness. <wrap hide>19\|00:03:02\|140\|00:03:11\|000</wrap>So it was Saint Paul, says the Tibetan here, who gave the Scorpio Mars slant to the interpretation and exposition <wrap hide>20\|00:03:11\|000\|00:03:21\|620</wrap>of the Christian teaching, and deflected—that's quite a strong word—deflected this interpretation and exposition <wrap hide>21\|00:03:21\|620\|00:03:29\|080</wrap>of the teaching, deflected the energy of this teaching into channels of teaching which its founder had never intended. <wrap hide>22\|00:03:29\|080\|00:03:39\|340</wrap>Elsewhere, D.K. tells us that in a way he emphasized the ancient blood religion of the Jews and also tried to, <wrap hide>23\|00:03:39\|340\|00:03:51\|300</wrap>we understand, reconcile it with certain Hellenistic concepts. And this is the great warning I think to all of us. <wrap hide>24\|00:03:51\|300\|00:04:00\|720</wrap>Such is often, he says here, the undesirable effect of the activities of well-meaning disciples. <wrap hide>25\|00:04:01\|120\|00:04:19\|860</wrap>And in that time it was the apostle Paul as the unredeemed Saul, S-A-U-L, who was in a way a well-meaning disciple. <wrap hide>26\|00:04:20\|940\|00:04:29\|780</wrap><wrap quote>Such is often the undesirable effect and activities of the well-meaning disciples upon the work which they undertake <wrap hide>27\|00:04:29\|780\|00:04:35\|160</wrap>to carry on after the originator of some work for the hierarchy passes over to the other side, <wrap hide>28\|00:04:35\|160\|00:04:39\|400</wrap>through death or relinquishes his task in order to take up other duties.</wrap> <wrap hide>29\|00:04:39\|400\|00:04:47\|060</wrap>So even on the road to Damascus the preparation for the third initiation may have begun, <wrap hide>30\|00:04:47\|060\|00:05:00\|940</wrap>but Saul was undertaking that trip to Damascus mainly to challenge those who had undertaken the new allegiance to the new sect. <wrap hide>31\|00:05:01\|420\|00:05:14\|580</wrap>So it was only after he was stopped by the voice of the Christ along the way that he began to undertake the dissemination of the Christian teaching. <wrap hide>32\|00:05:15\|720\|00:05:24\|580</wrap>And even then, he was not fully influenced by the energy of love as later he came to be. <wrap hide>33\|00:05:24\|740\|00:05:34\|640</wrap>So he was still extremely zealous and he transferred the same zeal with which he persecuted the members of the early sect, <wrap hide>34\|00:05:34\|640\|00:05:46\|260</wrap>he transferred that zeal to the propagation of the tenets of that sect which he now accepted under the influence of that voice <wrap hide>35\|00:05:46\|260\|00:05:51\|180</wrap>and the influence of the undeniable blinding light. <wrap hide>36\|00:05:51\|960\|00:05:56\|860</wrap>So Mars can still be pretty strong at that stage of development <wrap hide>37\|00:05:56\|860\|00:06:07\|980</wrap>and we understand that a hidden planet and Mars contend with each other at the time of the third initiation, <wrap hide>38\|00:06:09\|000\|00:06:13\|800</wrap>with that planet probably being Vulcan and the spiritual will must win <wrap hide>39\|00:06:13\|800\|00:06:22\|920</wrap>over the driving impetuosity and combative nature, a zealous nature of Mars. <wrap hide>40\|00:06:22\|920\|00:06:28\|260</wrap>The zeal of course must be preserved in another way; it's not that we can ever relinquish our zeal. <wrap hide>41\|00:06:29\|360\|00:06:38\|960</wrap>Master Morya tells us to apply fiery striving, always, and he's speaking I suppose to disciples of all kinds. <wrap hide>42\|00:06:39\|160\|00:06:50\|600</wrap>It's just that the zeal is a burning sort of fuel to propagate the life which is basically directed towards still higher objectives <wrap hide>43\|00:06:50\|600\|00:06:55\|360</wrap>but under the control of the soul or the love, wisdom, energy. <wrap hide>44\|00:06:55\|980\|00:07:01\|780</wrap>So then we came to the end of Esoteric Astrology Adventure EAA 77. <wrap hide>45\|00:07:03\|220\|00:07:06\|800</wrap>I divided it into two parts. It's basically a two-hour program, A and B, <wrap hide>46\|00:07:06\|800\|00:07:17\|220</wrap>and we're beginning with EAA 78, section A of that. Each section of that type is about an hour long. <wrap hide>47\|00:07:18\|660\|00:07:27\|780</wrap>I'm in a position here where the internet is slow and the conversion into a form, <wrap hide>48\|00:07:28\|300\|00:07:35\|560</wrap>a program that all can use rather than just some, takes an inordinately long time, <wrap hide>49\|00:07:35\|640\|00:07:44\|240</wrap>so sometimes I simply go ahead with a program of a number of hours to save the conversion time. <wrap hide>50\|00:07:45\|280\|00:07:55\|860</wrap>And then I rely upon Brett, who is assisting me in all of this, to divide it into programs of smaller duration, shorter duration. <wrap hide>51\|00:07:56\|760\|00:08:02\|460</wrap>So <wrap quote>the blood theme and the death theme,</wrap> these are very Scorpionic. <wrap hide>52\|00:08:03\|800\|00:08:07\|880</wrap><wrap quote>The suffering and the dire testing of the disciple, <wrap hide>1\|00:00:02\|480\|00:00:10\|320</wrap>the value of the individual conflict and the consciousness of the misery of existence <wrap hide>54\|00:08:16\|160\|00:08:22\|000</wrap>are basically due to the combined influences of Scorpio and of Mars <wrap hide>1\|00:00:02\|480\|00:00:10\|320</wrap>which have ruled Christianity for so long and which are only now beginning somewhat to lose their influence.</wrap> <wrap hide>56\|00:08:28\|880\|00:08:30\|180</wrap>And that was 80 years ago. <wrap hide>57\|00:08:32\|340\|00:08:44\|360</wrap>We're reminded on the fixed cross, we experience: blinding light, Taurus; fiery pain, Leo; bitter woe, Scorpio. <wrap hide>58\|00:08:45\|520\|00:08:48\|060</wrap>And that fits in with this blood theme and death theme, <wrap hide>59\|00:08:49\|360\|00:08:54\|680</wrap>all of the pain of the required detachments. <wrap hide>60\|00:08:56\|080\|00:08:58\|900</wrap>This is what we do experience, <wrap hide>61\|00:09:00\|200\|00:09:02\|520</wrap>and the individual struggles on. <wrap hide>62\|00:09:02\|720\|00:09:08\|460</wrap>I suppose in some way that's an improvement over the resignation, <wrap hide>63\|00:09:11\|090\|00:09:19\|100</wrap>excuse me, to endless reincarnational opportunity as offered in Hinduism <wrap hide>64\|00:09:20\|240\|00:09:22\|460</wrap>and in some forms of Buddhism. <wrap hide>65\|00:09:23\|960\|00:09:32\|740</wrap>The adherents of those ways of life sometimes do not strive forward as an individual, <wrap hide>66\|00:09:33\|960\|00:09:34\|940</wrap>as one must, <wrap hide>67\|00:09:35\|740\|00:09:44\|700</wrap>and rely upon the slow processes, the inevitable reincarnational processes to bring them opportunity <wrap hide>68\|00:09:45\|400\|00:09:48\|300</wrap>without a great deal of internal struggle and effort, <wrap hide>69\|00:09:48\|300\|00:09:56\|340</wrap>which struggle and effort basically accelerate the process at a certain stage upon the path. <wrap hide>70\|00:09:56\|980\|00:10:05\|320</wrap>I think so many people are now tired of this particular aspect of the Christian theme <wrap hide>71\|00:10:05\|320\|00:10:14\|380</wrap>and are looking for its transition into a more universal religion of love <wrap hide>72\|00:10:14\|380\|00:10:19\|320</wrap>which really serves the message of the Christ and not so much the message of Saint Paul, <wrap hide>73\|00:10:19\|500\|00:10:24\|980</wrap>although Saint Paul at this time, as the Master Hilarion, would no longer agree, <wrap hide>74\|00:10:26\|200\|00:10:29\|660</wrap>of course, because of his expanded perception as a master <wrap hide>75\|00:10:31\|140\|00:10:35\|060</wrap>with the position that he propagated at that time. <wrap hide>76\|00:10:35\|060\|00:10:38\|900</wrap>But thus it is with the masters: they are intense at a certain stage of evolution, <wrap hide>77\|00:10:39\|620\|00:10:42\|040</wrap>they make a deep impression upon others <wrap hide>78\|00:10:42\|040\|00:10:44\|160</wrap>and then later they become still more enlightened <wrap hide>79\|00:10:44\|840\|00:10:49\|900</wrap>and have to deal with the karma of that which they set in motion. <wrap hide>80\|00:10:53\|120\|00:11:01\|240</wrap>They set in motion certain energy streams which become part of the conditioning of humanity <wrap hide>81\|00:11:01\|240\|00:11:06\|200</wrap>and then these are karmic factors in a larger sense, <wrap hide>82\|00:11:06\|200\|00:11:12\|760</wrap>not so much the personal karma of things done wrong in the individual way, <wrap hide>83\|00:11:12\|760\|00:11:17\|340</wrap>but they are undertaking the rectification of some of the karma of humanity <wrap hide>84\|00:11:18\|140\|00:11:24\|120</wrap>for which they have been responsible. <wrap hide>85\|00:11:25\|820\|00:11:31\|300</wrap>And we do find the Master Hilarion working closely with the Master Jesus at this time <wrap hide>86\|00:11:32\|220\|00:11:34\|780</wrap>and some of his work is in the field of religion <wrap hide>87\|00:11:34\|780\|00:11:40\|920</wrap>as he tries to undo much of the blind faith <wrap hide>88\|00:11:41\|580\|00:11:45\|840</wrap>which he seemed to instil in people's consciousnesses <wrap hide>89\|00:11:45\|840\|00:11:51\|860</wrap>and help them understand that religion is an aspect of science as well. <wrap hide>90\|00:11:52\|820\|00:11:55\|360</wrap>The union of science and religion can be achieved. <wrap hide>91\|00:11:56\|160\|00:11:57\|540</wrap>This he tries to do at this time. <wrap hide>92\|00:11:57\|540\|00:12:00\|720</wrap>He has multiple activities. <wrap hide>93\|00:12:00\|880\|00:12:05\|780</wrap>Thus it is with so many of the masters: their areas of interest are not all known to us, <wrap hide>94\|00:12:05\|780\|00:12:12\|260</wrap>but they are not simply one-pointedly interested in only one thing. <wrap hide>95\|00:12:12\|460\|00:12:17\|640</wrap>They have many abilities and multiple interests <wrap hide>96\|00:12:18\|460\|00:12:25\|180</wrap>so that it's difficult to pigeonhole them and say they work only at this. <wrap hide>97\|00:12:26\|500\|00:12:29\|140</wrap><wrap quote>A study of the processes of death <wrap hide>98\|00:12:30\|340\|00:12:33\|220</wrap>as the science Scorpio conditions them, <wrap hide>99\|00:12:33\|220\|00:12:34\|920</wrap>because there are other types of death <wrap hide>100\|00:12:35\|600\|00:12:36\|980</wrap>conditioned by other signs, <wrap hide>101\|00:12:37\|680\|00:12:43\|000</wrap>and the processes of death as we see them working out in the sign Pisces <wrap hide>102\|00:12:43\|000\|00:12:44\|380</wrap>would be of very real value.</wrap> <wrap hide>103\|00:12:44\|540\|00:12:48\|400</wrap>We see that in each case Pluto is involved. <wrap hide>104\|00:12:49\|640\|00:12:52\|160</wrap>Pluto has a somewhat higher ruler in Pisces, <wrap hide>105\|00:12:53\|360\|00:12:55\|240</wrap>so Pluto involved, <wrap hide>106\|00:12:56\|100\|00:12:58\|720</wrap>the esoteric and hierarchical ruler of Pisces. <wrap hide>107\|00:12:58\|720\|00:13:02\|240</wrap>but a kind of special ruler in Scorpio. <wrap hide>108\|00:13:03\|120\|00:13:06\|600</wrap>D.K. doesn't really call it orthodox or esoteric, <wrap hide>109\|00:13:06\|600\|00:13:10\|580</wrap>but Pluto is a sub-ruler, <wrap hide>110\|00:13:12\|220\|00:13:16\|600</wrap>the sub-ruler of its own alter ego, Mars. <wrap hide>111\|00:13:17\|240\|00:13:20\|560</wrap>So in a way, Mars is to Pluto as Venus is to the Earth. <wrap hide>112\|00:13:20\|560\|00:13:23\|640</wrap><wrap quote>Death through the influences of Pluto <wrap hide>113\|00:13:23\|640\|00:13:27\|200</wrap>and death through the influences of Mars <wrap hide>114\|00:13:27\|200\|00:13:28\|640</wrap>are widely different.</wrap> <wrap hide>115\|00:13:29\|320\|00:13:33\|020</wrap>And D.K. is going to perhaps explain this. <wrap hide>116\|00:13:33\|020\|00:13:35\|220</wrap>There are subtler deaths involved, <wrap hide>117\|00:13:36\|900\|00:13:43\|060</wrap>and the enhancement of the penetration of consciousness <wrap hide>118\|00:13:43\|060\|00:13:45\|980</wrap>is promoted very much by Pluto. <wrap hide>119\|00:13:47\|280\|00:13:50\|360</wrap>Mars leads through battle to revelation, <wrap hide>120\|00:13:51\|960\|00:13:57\|060</wrap>but Pluto has this somewhat deeper effect <wrap hide>121\|00:13:59\|280\|00:14:05\|160</wrap>and eliminates many obscurations to consciousness. <wrap hide>122\|00:14:06\|300\|00:14:11\|180</wrap>Pluto, or the planet of death, as D.K. tells us, never destroys consciousness. <wrap hide>123\|00:14:11\|180\|00:14:13\|280</wrap>When we see Pluto in aspect to Venus, <wrap hide>124\|00:14:13\|280\|00:14:15\|020</wrap>it can mean many things, <wrap hide>125\|00:14:15\|020\|00:14:17\|680</wrap>but the clarification of consciousness <wrap hide>126\|00:14:17\|680\|00:14:21\|120</wrap>through the relinquishment of obscurations <wrap hide>127\|00:14:21\|120\|00:14:25\|900</wrap>to soul perception is one of the things that can be meant. <wrap hide>128\|00:14:27\|920\|00:14:30\|720</wrap>That's the thing about astrological aspects <wrap hide>129\|00:14:30\|720\|00:14:34\|820</wrap>and positions in sign and houses: <wrap hide>130\|00:14:34\|820\|00:14:36\|380</wrap>they mean so many things. <wrap hide>131\|00:14:36\|380\|00:14:40\|120</wrap>It requires the intuition of the astrologer <wrap hide>132\|00:14:40\|120\|00:14:45\|360</wrap>to determine what may be the meaning in the particular context, <wrap hide>133\|00:14:45\|360\|00:14:54\|120</wrap>which is the individual or group being considered. <wrap hide>134\|00:14:56\|060\|00:14:59\|420</wrap>So in a way, Mars and Pluto are widely different. <wrap hide>135\|00:15:00\|200\|00:15:01\|940</wrap>Pluto is an esoteric planet, <wrap hide>136\|00:15:01\|940\|00:15:07\|940</wrap>although it is less developed than Mars, <wrap hide>137\|00:15:07\|940\|00:15:10\|060</wrap>which in a sense is its feature. <wrap hide>138\|00:15:10\|060\|00:15:13\|400</wrap>So there are some enigmas surrounding Pluto. <wrap hide>139\|00:15:13\|400\|00:15:17\|320</wrap>It's an esoteric planet but not yet a sacred planet, <wrap hide>140\|00:15:17\|320\|00:15:22\|360</wrap>nor is its alter ego Mars a sacred planet. <wrap hide>141\|00:15:23\|020\|00:15:24\|340</wrap>In the case of Venus and Earth, <wrap hide>142\|00:15:24\|340\|00:15:26\|080</wrap>of course Venus is a sacred planet, <wrap hide>143\|00:15:26\|860\|00:15:28\|900</wrap>and it is the alter ego to Earth, <wrap hide>144\|00:15:28\|900\|00:15:31\|420</wrap>which is not yet a sacred planet, <wrap hide>145\|00:15:31\|420\|00:15:33\|020</wrap>at least outwardly. <wrap hide>146\|00:15:33\|900\|00:15:40\|040</wrap><wrap quote>Death in Pisces through the energy of Pluto is transformation, <wrap hide>147\|00:15:40\|840\|00:15:45\|200</wrap>a transformation so vital and so basic.</wrap> <wrap hide>148\|00:15:46\|040\|00:15:49\|080</wrap>Okay, death in Pisces through the energy of Pluto <wrap hide>149\|00:15:49\|940\|00:15:55\|580</wrap>is a transformation and thereby, in a way, an enhancement of consciousness. <wrap hide>150\|00:15:55\|580\|00:15:59\|300</wrap>And then D.K. is going to quote here some of the old commentary: <wrap hide>151\|00:15:59\|300\|00:16:04\|280</wrap>a transformation so basic <wrap quote>that the</wrap>—and then quote— <wrap hide>152\|00:16:04\|280\|00:16:07\|520</wrap><wrap quote>"Ancient One is no longer seen. <wrap hide>1\|00:00:02\|480\|00:00:10\|320</wrap>He sinks to the depth of the ocean of life; <wrap hide>1\|00:00:02\|480\|00:00:10\|320</wrap>he descends into hell. <wrap hide>155\|00:16:17\|940\|00:16:21\|020</wrap>But the gates of hell hold him not. <wrap hide>156\|00:16:21\|020\|00:16:24\|120</wrap>He, the new and living one"— <wrap hide>157\|00:16:24\|120\|00:16:28\|440</wrap>and I assume then the transformed one— <wrap hide>158\|00:16:28\|440\|00:16:32\|320</wrap>"leaves below that which has held him down throughout the ages"</wrap>— <wrap hide>159\|00:16:33\|180\|00:16:35\|280</wrap>that which has obscured his consciousness— <wrap hide>160\|00:16:36\|200\|00:16:38\|400</wrap><wrap quote>"and rises from the depths <wrap hide>161\|00:16:39\|580\|00:16:43\|040</wrap>unto the heights close to the throne of God."</wrap> <wrap hide>162\|00:16:43\|040\|00:16:47\|760</wrap>Interesting that we can consider here Aries, Pluto, Shambhala. <wrap hide>163\|00:16:49\|120\|00:16:51\|940</wrap>And that rising is a kind of resurrection <wrap hide>164\|00:16:52\|520\|00:16:58\|040</wrap>connected with Aries, and Shambhala is the throne of God. <wrap hide>165\|00:16:58\|440\|00:17:00\|480</wrap>So this Scorpionic experience <wrap hide>166\|00:17:01\|380\|00:17:06\|240</wrap>leads to a resurrection in which Pluto plays a big part. <wrap hide>167\|00:17:06\|240\|00:17:08\|860</wrap>It may be a non-sacred planet, <wrap hide>168\|00:17:09\|780\|00:17:13\|340</wrap>but all planets are gods when compared <wrap hide>169\|00:17:14\|140\|00:17:17\|180</wrap>to what the tiny human God is. <wrap hide>170\|00:17:17\|180\|00:17:19\|200</wrap>They are great gods, <wrap hide>171\|00:17:20\|200\|00:17:23\|420</wrap>and they each can have a very powerful effect <wrap hide>172\|00:17:23\|420\|00:17:26\|640</wrap>upon the human soul and human monad. <wrap hide>173\|00:17:28\|440\|00:17:31\|760</wrap>So the Ancient One in many respects is the personality, <wrap hide>174\|00:17:31\|760\|00:17:36\|400</wrap>and Pluto brings death to those states of consciousness <wrap hide>175\|00:17:37\|300\|00:17:39\|620</wrap>which are strictly personal and material <wrap hide>176\|00:17:39\|620\|00:17:41\|860</wrap>and under the spell of the lower elementals. <wrap hide>177\|00:17:41\|860\|00:17:45\|540</wrap>In this case, Pluto kills the moon, <wrap hide>178\|00:17:46\|440\|00:17:50\|620</wrap>just the way the moon falls in the sign Scorpio, <wrap hide>179\|00:17:51\|260\|00:17:53\|060</wrap>which is ruled by Pluto. <wrap hide>180\|00:17:54\|320\|00:17:55\|960</wrap>So the buddhic consciousness <wrap hide>181\|00:17:57\|820\|00:18:00\|120</wrap>eventually obscures all the illusions <wrap hide>182\|00:18:00\|940\|00:18:05\|960</wrap>which have hitherto obscured soul and higher consciousness. <wrap hide>183\|00:18:05\|960\|00:18:08\|600</wrap>"He sinks to the depths of the ocean of life," <wrap hide>184\|00:18:08\|600\|00:18:11\|660</wrap>so he goes all the way down to the lowest plane. <wrap hide>185\|00:18:11\|660\|00:18:13\|340</wrap>We're not just speaking of water. <wrap hide>186\|00:18:14\|040\|00:18:18\|000</wrap>We're speaking of matter as water. <wrap hide>187\|00:18:18\|000\|00:18:20\|840</wrap>He descends into hell, which is the lower world. <wrap hide>188\|00:18:20\|840\|00:18:25\|180</wrap>It's not just the hell of the lowest astral plane. <wrap hide>189\|00:18:25\|960\|00:18:33\|280</wrap>It's the hell that exists in this frozen, external, material world. <wrap hide>190\|00:18:34\|440\|00:18:37\|160</wrap>But the gates of hell, through which he has passed <wrap hide>191\|00:18:37\|800\|00:18:39\|260</wrap>by coming into incarnation, <wrap hide>192\|00:18:39\|980\|00:18:41\|340</wrap>hold him not. <wrap hide>193\|00:18:41\|340\|00:18:43\|720</wrap>He returns. <wrap hide>194\|00:18:43\|720\|00:18:46\|780</wrap>Those gates of hell now become the gates <wrap hide>195\|00:18:48\|700\|00:18:51\|000</wrap>of entry into the mysteries. <wrap hide>196\|00:18:52\|040\|00:18:53\|140</wrap>And he is transformed. <wrap hide>197\|00:18:54\|460\|00:18:56\|460</wrap>He has shed his old skin. <wrap hide>198\|00:18:56\|460\|00:18:58\|660</wrap>He has shed the lower <wrap hide>199\|00:19:00\|900\|00:19:03\|140</wrap>vestures and their domination over him, <wrap hide>200\|00:19:03\|140\|00:19:05\|580</wrap>and has now a new life. <wrap hide>201\|00:19:05\|580\|00:19:09\|360</wrap>It's almost the way the poison of the serpent <wrap hide>202\|00:19:09\|360\|00:19:12\|780</wrap>can become an elixir of life. <wrap hide>203\|00:19:12\|780\|00:19:16\|740</wrap>Pluto is related to that process, and so is Scorpio. <wrap hide>204\|00:19:16\|740\|00:19:20\|400</wrap>So he's now the new and living one, and he leaves below <wrap hide>205\|00:19:21\|420\|00:19:25\|420</wrap>all those phases of consciousness which have obscured <wrap hide>206\|00:19:25\|420\|00:19:28\|860</wrap>his higher potentials for consciousness, <wrap hide>207\|00:19:29\|480\|00:19:34\|400</wrap>and rises from the lower three worlds, <wrap hide>208\|00:19:34\|400\|00:19:38\|480</wrap>which are the dense physical vehicle of the Solar Logos <wrap hide>209\|00:19:38\|480\|00:19:40\|240</wrap>and Planetary Logos, <wrap hide>210\|00:19:40\|240\|00:19:41\|620</wrap>unto the heights. <wrap hide>211\|00:19:42\|600\|00:19:46\|580</wrap>He rises through the cosmic ethers, <wrap hide>212\|00:19:47\|840\|00:19:50\|760</wrap>and he is close to the throne of God. <wrap hide>213\|00:19:50\|760\|00:19:52\|120</wrap>We don't know how close, but <wrap hide>214\|00:19:53\|360\|00:19:55\|900</wrap>when we undergo the ascension initiation, <wrap hide>215\|00:19:55\|900\|00:19:58\|660</wrap>we sit at the right hand of God. <wrap hide>216\|00:19:59\|420\|00:20:02\|320</wrap>This may be on the monadic plane, <wrap hide>217\|00:20:02\|320\|00:20:04\|100</wrap>or in the case of Christ, <wrap hide>218\|00:20:04\|660\|00:20:05\|960</wrap>a seventh degree initiate, <wrap hide>219\|00:20:07\|020\|00:20:08\|820</wrap>on the Logoic plane. <wrap hide>220\|00:20:10\|940\|00:20:15\|580</wrap>So this is not simply the slaughter of the form. <wrap hide>221\|00:20:15\|580\|00:20:18\|120</wrap>When we're dealing with slaughter, it is so Martian, <wrap hide>222\|00:20:18\|660\|00:20:20\|140</wrap>and slaughterhouses, <wrap hide>223\|00:20:21\|780\|00:20:24\|580</wrap>where the animal form <wrap hide>224\|00:20:27\|320\|00:20:30\|960</wrap>is brutally separated from the animal consciousness, <wrap hide>225\|00:20:32\|260\|00:20:37\|800</wrap>are ruled far more by Mars than by Pluto. <wrap hide>226\|00:20:38\|540\|00:20:40\|900</wrap>The blood is flowing there, the red blood, <wrap hide>227\|00:20:42\|100\|00:20:45\|700</wrap>and it's a symbol of the sacrifice of the animal nature. <wrap hide>228\|00:20:45\|700\|00:20:48\|320</wrap>It also is coming to an end. <wrap hide>229\|00:20:48\|980\|00:20:54\|100</wrap>D.K. talks about the cruel meat-eating groups of the last 500 years. <wrap hide>230\|00:20:55\|460\|00:20:57\|940</wrap>They are barbaric in that sense, <wrap hide>231\|00:20:57\|940\|00:20:59\|980</wrap>and there are many among us today. <wrap hide>232\|00:21:02\|020\|00:21:06\|180</wrap>Although Alice Bailey said it's better to eat beef steak with a pure heart <wrap hide>233\|00:21:06\|180\|00:21:11\|660</wrap>than to be a — well, I'll just paraphrase — a gossiping vegetarian. <wrap hide>234\|00:21:15\|640\|00:21:19\|060</wrap>So the slaughter upon the battlefield of life, <wrap hide>235\|00:21:19\|060\|00:21:23\|260</wrap>the slaughter in the slaughterhouses, is a Martian process <wrap hide>236\|00:21:24\|520\|00:21:29\|060</wrap>rather than a transformational Pluto — Plutonian process. <wrap hide>237\|00:21:30\|320\|00:21:32\|900</wrap>The veils are shed. <wrap hide>238\|00:21:32\|900\|00:21:35\|620</wrap>The veils are penetrated by Pluto. <wrap hide>239\|00:21:36\|880\|00:21:42\|180</wrap>This is not so much the case with Mars, but the battles — <wrap hide>240\|00:21:42\|880\|00:21:46\|300</wrap>the pre-revelatory battles of Mars do wear away <wrap hide>241\|00:21:47\|200\|00:21:53\|360</wrap>the veils so that revelation can come, the types of revelation we spoke of earlier. <wrap hide>242\|00:21:55\|040\|00:22:00\|600</wrap>So anyway, the personality and its consciousness are obscured. <wrap hide>243\|00:22:02\|520\|00:22:06\|040</wrap>Christ, we know, are told, he harrowed hell. <wrap hide>244\|00:22:08\|220\|00:22:12\|680</wrap>The story goes that after his crucifixion — <wrap hide>245\|00:22:14\|020\|00:22:17\|740</wrap>of course, it was technically the master Jesus who was crucified — <wrap hide>246\|00:22:18\|680\|00:22:22\|920</wrap>the Christ went into the hell worlds, I suppose, of the astral plane <wrap hide>247\|00:22:23\|620\|00:22:30\|240</wrap>and brought forth those who could respond to his message. <wrap hide>248\|00:22:30\|600\|00:22:35\|760</wrap>And the Tibetan has assured us that our own lower world that we can virtually live in <wrap hide>249\|00:22:35\|760\|00:22:39\|360</wrap>is a far greater hell — hell in its truest sense. <wrap hide>250\|00:22:39\|360\|00:22:44\|460</wrap>So the very coming of Christ, working through the master Jesus, <wrap hide>251\|00:22:44\|460\|00:22:50\|160</wrap>was a harrowing of our physical plane life — <wrap hide>252\|00:22:50\|940\|00:22:56\|240</wrap>the hellishness of it — and the drawing forth magnetically and through the power of love <wrap hide>253\|00:22:56\|240\|00:23:00\|600</wrap>of those who could follow him into higher worlds. <wrap hide>254\|00:23:02\|020\|00:23:05\|320</wrap>So anyway, the old commentary that we've just discussed, <wrap hide>255\|00:23:05\|320\|00:23:07\|300</wrap><wrap quote>the connection of these words with Christ — <wrap hide>256\|00:23:08\|140\|00:23:11\|860</wrap>the present world savior, </wrap>as there are many, many to come as well — <wrap hide>257\|00:23:11\|860\|00:23:16\|640</wrap><wrap quote>is obvious in their implications.</wrap> <wrap hide>258\|00:23:18\|500\|00:23:21\|680</wrap>Christ ascended to the throne of God, and he, <wrap hide>259\|00:23:21\|680\|00:23:26\|940</wrap>as the savior, he drew many after him in that direction. <wrap hide>260\|00:23:28\|620\|00:23:33\|380</wrap>So — <wrap quote>and yet these words were written in our archives. </wrap><wrap hide>261\|00:23:33\|380\|00:23:37\|840</wrap>the Masters' archives <wrap quote>over 7,000 years ago.</wrap> <wrap hide>262\|00:23:38\|720\|00:23:42\|740</wrap>So D.K. is writing at the end of the Age of Pisces, pretty much. <wrap hide>263\|00:23:43\|960\|00:23:45\|720</wrap>And we might consider <wrap hide>264\|00:23:48\|740\|00:23:55\|820</wrap>the 7,000 years would bring him into the Age of Aries, into the Age of Taurus. <wrap hide>265\|00:23:57\|800\|00:24:03\|200</wrap>And either at the beginning of the Age of Taurus or the end of the Age of Gemini, <wrap hide>266\|00:24:03\|200\|00:24:08\|800</wrap>it would seem, if we look at ages as approximately 2,160 years, <wrap hide>267\|00:24:10\|420\|00:24:16\|840</wrap>or actually still more approximately 2,500 years ago, <wrap hide>268\|00:24:16\|840\|00:24:22\|620</wrap>we may be beginning the Age of Taurus or ending the Age of Gemini. <wrap hide>269\|00:24:22\|620\|00:24:28\|800</wrap>These are the shorter precessional ages, not the long ones of some 25,000 years. <wrap hide>270\|00:24:28\|800\|00:24:35\|680</wrap>It would seem that during the Age of Gemini, much of importance to the Hierarchy <wrap hide>271\|00:24:36\|520\|00:24:43\|700</wrap>would be written, as Mercury and Gemini are both signs of written communication, <wrap hide>272\|00:24:43\|700\|00:24:45\|060</wrap>and placed in the archives. <wrap hide>273\|00:24:45\|760\|00:24:51\|800</wrap>We don't know what culture, in which culture this may have occurred. <wrap hide>274\|00:24:55\|800\|00:24:57\|080</wrap>It's worth pondering. <wrap hide>275\|00:24:58\|200\|00:25:04\|260</wrap>I think that what we find in the ancient archives has come from <wrap hide>276\|00:25:05\|480\|00:25:07\|020</wrap>many different ages. <wrap hide>277\|00:25:07\|020\|00:25:11\|840</wrap>D.K. talks about writings that are Atlantean in their origin, <wrap hide>278\|00:25:11\|840\|00:25:17\|080</wrap>that are older than Sanskrit, even older than the language Senzar. <wrap hide>279\|00:25:17\|960\|00:25:30\|580</wrap>Probably in this archive are contents that may have even been contributed during the Lemurian root race. <wrap hide>280\|00:25:32\|260\|00:25:34\|740</wrap>So one day these things will be made clear to us. <wrap hide>281\|00:25:34\|740\|00:25:40\|820</wrap>Right now our task is to utilize what is presented to us in the best possible manner <wrap hide>282\|00:25:41\|740\|00:25:47\|660</wrap>to achieve our own freedom and the freedom of all those we can influence. <wrap hide>283\|00:25:51\|480\|00:25:54\|080</wrap><wrap quote>Death in Scorpio is of a different nature <wrap hide>284\|00:25:55\|860\|00:25:59\|240</wrap>and is also described in the same ancient writing in the following words.</wrap> <wrap hide>285\|00:25:59\|240\|00:26:02\|200</wrap>So we've just been dealing with death in Pisces. <wrap hide>286\|00:26:02\|200\|00:26:10\|300</wrap>It involves the later initiations in a way, released from the human kingdom altogether. <wrap hide>287\|00:26:11\|160\|00:26:15\|640</wrap>It is the death through which a world savior passes. <wrap hide>288\|00:26:17\|180\|00:26:24\|700</wrap>It reminds us of the idea that the final incarnation for some few acting very much on the will aspect <wrap hide>289\|00:26:25\|320\|00:26:27\|100</wrap>is taken in Pisces. <wrap hide>290\|00:26:27\|100\|00:26:36\|620</wrap>And there's a lot of finality and climax in what we have read above here, <wrap hide>291\|00:26:37\|180\|00:26:49\|080</wrap>as Pisces seems to give way to Aries, where the ancient one sits upon his throne on the very highest plane, the Logoic plane. <wrap hide>292\|00:26:50\|030\|00:26:54\|530</wrap>Now he talks about the death in Scorpio. <wrap hide>293\|00:26:56\|010\|00:27:04\|970</wrap>The <wrap quote>ancient one dies by drowning.</wrap> I suppose he is surrounded—well, let me read it first and then we'll analyze it. <wrap hide>294\|00:27:07\|130\|00:27:12\|010</wrap>"The ancient one dies by drowning, <wrap quote>such is the test"</wrap>—there's that word. <wrap hide>295\|00:27:12\|510\|00:27:15\|830</wrap><wrap quote>"The waters envelop him and there is no escape; he drowns. <wrap hide>1\|00:00:02\|480\|00:00:10\|320</wrap>The fires of passion are then quenched; <wrap hide>1\|00:00:02\|480\|00:00:10\|320</wrap>the life of desire ceases its appeal, <wrap hide>298\|00:27:24\|950\|00:27:30\|450</wrap>and to the bottom of the lake he now descends."</wrap> <wrap hide>299\|00:27:30\|450\|00:27:32\|650</wrap>It's not an ocean anymore, is it? <wrap hide>300\|00:27:33\|130\|00:27:38\|850</wrap><wrap quote>"Later he re-ascends to earth where the white horse waits, is coming, <wrap hide>301\|00:27:38\|850\|00:27:44\|450</wrap>and this he mounts, proceeding towards the second death." <wrap hide>302\|00:27:46\|030\|00:27:48\|890</wrap>That is, towards Pisces.</wrap> <wrap hide>303\|00:27:49\|610\|00:27:52\|850</wrap>So there is the death of the personality here, <wrap hide>304\|00:27:53\|510\|00:27:56\|790</wrap>or at least the death of the emotional vehicle and its desire body. <wrap hide>305\|00:27:59\|070\|00:28:07\|030</wrap>And a preparation for the more ultimate death which leads to the release from the fourth kingdom of nature. Already, <wrap hide>306\|00:28:07\|030\|00:28:13\|950</wrap>we're not there yet when we're talking about Scorpio, which is ruling the first three initiations and the second one particularly. <wrap hide>307\|00:28:15\|010\|00:28:21\|110</wrap>So the ancient one is submerged in the waters of the astral plane. <wrap hide>308\|00:28:23\|450\|00:28:33\|670</wrap>And all of the ancient emotional impulses surround him; he's completely engulfed. He drowns. <wrap hide>309\|00:28:33\|670\|00:28:39\|390</wrap>But the fires of passion for lesser things are quenched, <wrap hide>310\|00:28:41\|090\|00:28:48\|470</wrap>and he is purified of his desire for that which holds him to the earth. <wrap hide>311\|00:28:49\|790\|00:28:55\|450</wrap>Mars and the fire of passion in Aries is a different type of burning, <wrap hide>312\|00:28:55\|450\|00:29:01\|670</wrap>and even Mars as it operates for the average individual in the sign Scorpio, <wrap hide>313\|00:29:01\|670\|00:29:05\|110</wrap>where desire can become incredibly insistent, <wrap hide>314\|00:29:06\|370\|00:29:10\|330</wrap>is also different from the state that is here described. <wrap hide>315\|00:29:11\|670\|00:29:19\|330</wrap>So the usual passions are quenched by this experience, this emotional experience, <wrap hide>316\|00:29:20\|230\|00:29:24\|330</wrap>this submergence in all of the promptings of the astral plane, <wrap hide>317\|00:29:25\|490\|00:29:29\|150</wrap>which are seen then as wanting. <wrap hide>318\|00:29:31\|910\|00:29:40\|050</wrap>And he realizes that these very desires have been holding him to the lowest worlds. <wrap hide>319\|00:29:41\|110\|00:29:45\|270</wrap>So they are seen as no longer appealing; he dies to them. <wrap hide>320\|00:29:45\|930\|00:29:54\|250</wrap>This is what it means to have the death of the desire nature at the second initiation. <wrap hide>321\|00:29:54\|250\|00:29:57\|530</wrap>I think it's pretty much the second initiation that we're dealing with, <wrap hide>322\|00:29:57\|530\|00:30:03\|110</wrap>specifically, but we can apply it across the board really to all three initiations. <wrap hide>323\|00:30:03\|930\|00:30:07\|690</wrap>The life of ordinary desire ceases its appeal, <wrap hide>324\|00:30:08\|830\|00:30:14\|050</wrap>and to the bottom of the lake, I suppose the astral body, he now descends, <wrap hide>325\|00:30:14\|610\|00:30:16\|690</wrap>finding all kinds of things there <wrap hide>326\|00:30:18\|210\|00:30:20\|090</wrap>which have to be dealt with, <wrap hide>327\|00:30:20\|770\|00:30:23\|850</wrap>which have to be raised up and expiated, <wrap hide>328\|00:30:25\|270\|00:30:25\|910</wrap>transformed. <wrap hide>329\|00:30:27\|530\|00:30:34\|170</wrap>The Scorpio individual discovers the depths of evil within his own nature, <wrap hide>330\|00:30:35\|550\|00:30:38\|350</wrap>and no stone is left unturned <wrap hide>331\|00:30:39\|270\|00:30:40\|830</wrap>when passing through this— <wrap hide>332\|00:30:42\|430\|00:30:45\|970</wrap>well, let's call it in general a psychoanalytic process. <wrap hide>333\|00:30:46\|610\|00:30:53\|790</wrap>The contents of the psyche are seen, analyzed, lifted up and expiated. <wrap hide>334\|00:30:55\|370\|00:31:02\|310</wrap>So he goes through dealing with his emotional life and tries to, tends to <wrap hide>335\|00:31:02\|870\|00:31:07\|470</wrap>reorient his desire nature because he no longer wants what is presented to him. <wrap hide>336\|00:31:07\|470\|00:31:12\|090</wrap>His sense of values, his sense of values has been altered. <wrap hide>337\|00:31:12\|770\|00:31:19\|610</wrap>He realizes that he is drowning, that he's in hell, that there is a higher and better life. <wrap hide>338\|00:31:19\|610\|00:31:21\|650</wrap>Later he reascends to earth. <wrap hide>339\|00:31:26\|030\|00:31:29\|070</wrap>Interestingly, Sagittarius, the sign of the white horse, <wrap hide>340\|00:31:29\|690\|00:31:32\|470</wrap>is ruled esoterically by the earth. <wrap hide>341\|00:31:32\|470\|00:31:39\|950</wrap>So after passing through this psychological internal subtle body crisis, <wrap hide>342\|00:31:40\|690\|00:31:44\|190</wrap>he can again become effective upon the physical plane <wrap hide>343\|00:31:44\|190\|00:31:48\|150</wrap>and no longer preoccupied with all <wrap hide>344\|00:31:50\|850\|00:31:54\|750</wrap>that emotional drowning implies. <wrap hide>345\|00:31:56\|230\|00:31:59\|630</wrap>It's a huge test to be surrounded by <wrap hide>346\|00:32:00\|410\|00:32:03\|190</wrap>the errant desires of the ages <wrap hide>347\|00:32:03\|190\|00:32:07\|810</wrap>which have been concealed during the ages, <wrap hide>348\|00:32:07\|810\|00:32:13\|250</wrap>so that one doesn't even know that this aspect of the hydra really is lurking. <wrap hide>349\|00:32:14\|090\|00:32:16\|550</wrap>When revealed, one has a tremendous battle. <wrap hide>350\|00:32:18\|250\|00:32:23\|890</wrap>And that's why the second initiation is so very difficult to pass. <wrap hide>351\|00:32:23\|890\|00:32:26\|470</wrap>The astral body is so very strong and unified— <wrap hide>352\|00:32:26\|470\|00:32:33\|550</wrap>the only one of the human being's lower bodies that it actually is unified. <wrap hide>353\|00:32:33\|550\|00:32:36\|470</wrap>There is a split upon the physical plane: <wrap hide>354\|00:32:37\|150\|00:32:41\|390</wrap>physically-etheric. There is a split upon the mental plane: lower mind, higher mind. <wrap hide>355\|00:32:42\|230\|00:32:44\|770</wrap>So the white horse is awaiting his coming, <wrap hide>356\|00:32:46\|210\|00:32:48\|890</wrap>especially following the second initiation, <wrap hide>357\|00:32:48\|890\|00:32:53\|870</wrap>and this amounts to proceeding towards the second death. <wrap hide>358\|00:32:55\|490\|00:32:59\|970</wrap>And I'm reminded here of what is said <wrap hide>359\|00:33:03\|110\|00:33:10\|010</wrap>about the relation of Sagittarius to Pisces. <wrap hide>360\|00:33:11\|150\|00:33:12\|730</wrap>Let's see. <wrap hide>361\|00:33:13\|850\|00:33:22\|010</wrap>Sagittarius—and it says here, "Sagittarius the disciple becomes the savior in Pisces." <wrap hide>362\|00:33:22\|010\|00:33:27\|310</wrap>So there is an orientation in these two Jupiterian signs— <wrap hide>363\|00:33:29\|190\|00:33:37\|430</wrap>the orientation of Sagittarius towards Pisces just as it says here in the old commentary. <wrap hide>364\|00:33:41\|770\|00:33:46\|510</wrap>Of course, as I said before, Scorpio is involved in all the three first initiations, <wrap hide>365\|00:33:46\|510\|00:33:49\|130</wrap>and Sagittarius especially in the first two. <wrap hide>366\|00:33:49\|130\|00:33:57\|110</wrap>But I think we're talking about a period here in which the purified individual, <wrap hide>367\|00:33:59\|110\|00:34:04\|550</wrap>having relinquished, having died to the normal life of desire, <wrap hide>368\|00:34:05\|730\|00:34:07\|490</wrap>becomes intensely aspiring. <wrap hide>369\|00:34:08\|790\|00:34:12\|430</wrap>And Sagittarius is one of the major signs of aspiration, <wrap hide>370\|00:34:13\|790\|00:34:15\|830</wrap>interestingly along with Taurus. <wrap hide>371\|00:34:17\|770\|00:34:22\|770</wrap>And here he rides in a balanced manner <wrap hide>372\|00:34:24\|310\|00:34:28\|490</wrap>towards the possibilities of the third great initiation. <wrap hide>373\|00:34:31\|050\|00:34:38\|210</wrap>We're told that the third initiation is not approached necessarily from the heights of aspiration, <wrap hide>374\|00:34:38\|210\|00:34:40\|770</wrap>but from the level table land. <wrap hide>375\|00:34:40\|770\|00:34:50\|330</wrap>And across this level table land, the mounted disciple, mounted upon the white horse of the purified personality, rides with speed. <wrap hide>376\|00:34:52\|650\|00:34:59\|530</wrap>So he moves rapidly towards the third initiation. <wrap hide>377\|00:34:59\|530\|00:35:03\|530</wrap>And if we're speaking of the period that follows the third initiation, <wrap hide>378\|00:35:04\|290\|00:35:06\|410</wrap>Sagittarius can be very orienting <wrap hide>379\|00:35:07\|370\|00:35:15\|410</wrap>towards the fourth degree, which can be taken in relation to the sign Pisces as well as other signs. <wrap hide>380\|00:35:16\|310\|00:35:19\|450</wrap>Gemini is interestingly involved there. <wrap hide>381\|00:35:20\|690\|00:35:25\|910</wrap>A number of the signs can be found—Capricorn, Taurus, so forth— <wrap hide>382\|00:35:26\|410\|00:35:30\|470</wrap>connected with this fourth initiation. <wrap hide>383\|00:35:33\|390\|00:35:35\|550</wrap>So there are many implications here, <wrap hide>384\|00:35:35\|550\|00:35:41\|590</wrap>but we see we undergo a tremendous subtle body purification. <wrap hide>385\|00:35:42\|490\|00:35:49\|330</wrap>Kama-manas is purified—not only the astral nature but the way the mind is involved with the astral nature. <wrap hide>386\|00:35:49\|330\|00:35:53\|910</wrap>A reorientation occurs; lower desires are relinquished. <wrap hide>387\|00:35:53\|910\|00:35:57\|390</wrap>the lower fires of ordinary passion die out. <wrap hide>388\|00:35:57\|390\|00:35:59\|270</wrap>Aspiration takes its place, <wrap hide>389\|00:36:00\|480\|00:36:06\|510</wrap>and a speedy one-pointed progress of the one-pointed disciple towards higher destinations <wrap hide>390\|00:36:07\|930\|00:36:15\|790</wrap>takes the place of the struggles within the depths that are common to Scorpio. <wrap hide>391\|00:36:15\|790\|00:36:20\|170</wrap>So we've been given the ancient commentary here, <wrap hide>392\|00:36:20\|170\|00:36:29\|570</wrap>and we see in a way that the kind of death indicated by the first of the commentaries is a higher death <wrap hide>393\|00:36:30\|390\|00:36:35\|350</wrap>and really deals with ultimate release from the human kingdom altogether <wrap hide>394\|00:36:35\|350\|00:36:37\|870</wrap>and release into the kingdom of God as a full member <wrap hide>395\|00:36:37\|870\|00:36:45\|390</wrap>and finally a release into Shambhala itself, with which Pisces is associated just as is Aries. <wrap hide>396\|00:36:47\|130\|00:36:49\|610</wrap>The kind of death we're dealing with here, <wrap hide>397\|00:36:53\|870\|00:37:00\|110</wrap>the death by drowning in the ordinary passions, is of a lower nature <wrap hide>398\|00:37:00\|110\|00:37:10\|910</wrap>but still gives us the initiatory orientation and orients us towards the third degree and beyond. <wrap hide>399\|00:37:13\|110\|00:37:18\|660</wrap>So much is compressed within the old commentary. <wrap hide>400\|00:37:18\|990\|00:37:24\|210</wrap>We see a number of different possible applications, <wrap hide>401\|00:37:24\|210\|00:37:29\|380</wrap>and we try to bring them forward for our consideration. <wrap hide>402\|00:37:31\|190\|00:37:34\|710</wrap>All of us at this time are supposed to be the one-pointed disciple, <wrap hide>403\|00:37:34\|710\|00:37:39\|470</wrap>whether or not we are experiencing an incarnation in Sagittarius. <wrap hide>404\|00:37:39\|470\|00:37:41\|430</wrap>Perhaps we already have; perhaps it's coming. <wrap hide>405\|00:37:43\|130\|00:37:52\|850</wrap>We don't yet know the astrological configurations of our immediate previous lives <wrap hide>406\|00:37:52\|850\|00:37:55\|230</wrap>and our immediate succeeding lives, <wrap hide>407\|00:37:55\|230\|00:38:01\|530</wrap>but no doubt an examination of these configurations <wrap hide>408\|00:38:02\|690\|00:38:08\|290</wrap>and an anticipation of what they will be, as the solar angel knows them <wrap hide>409\|00:38:08\|710\|00:38:11\|510</wrap>to be impending, would be most interesting. <wrap hide>410\|00:38:12\|970\|00:38:18\|770</wrap>So <wrap quote>the reference here, says the Tibetan, is here to Sagittarius. It's clear, </wrap>of course, <wrap hide>411\|00:38:18\|770\|00:38:19\|610</wrap>that's the white horse. <wrap hide>412\|00:38:20\|570\|00:38:23\|810</wrap>Just like the black bull and the white bull— <wrap hide>413\|00:38:24\|670\|00:38:30\|030</wrap>if we're going to ride the bull to the, I suppose, the swimming bull <wrap hide>414\|00:38:30\|970\|00:38:35\|050</wrap>to the island of the one-eyed men and become the true third degree initiate, <wrap hide>415\|00:38:35\|050\|00:38:38\|330</wrap>it has to be the white bull, doesn't it? <wrap hide>416\|00:38:39\|010\|00:38:44\|030</wrap><wrap quote>The disciple, after the death of the personality and after the killing out of desire—</wrap> <wrap hide>417\|00:38:44\|030\|00:38:50\|430</wrap>but since the personality is so very much centered in the solar plexus <wrap hide>418\|00:38:50\|430\|00:38:52\|130</wrap>and involves kama-manas, <wrap hide>419\|00:38:52\|130\|00:38:56\|510</wrap>sometimes the second degree is called the death of the personality, <wrap hide>420\|00:38:57\|110\|00:39:07\|970</wrap>though it seems to me there is a type of personality death which relates to the third degree <wrap hide>421\|00:39:09\|610\|00:39:13\|610</wrap>at which degree the personality loses its ancient authority <wrap hide>422\|00:39:14\|030\|00:39:16\|710</wrap>over the consciousness of the disciple. <wrap hide>423\|00:39:18\|230\|00:39:24\|530</wrap>And an actual physical plane death may be involved at the fourth degree, <wrap hide>424\|00:39:24\|530\|00:39:28\|310</wrap>where the dweller, the personality, is completely sacrificed <wrap hide>425\|00:39:29\|270\|00:39:34\|530</wrap>on behalf of humanity and its needs. <wrap hide>426\|00:39:37\|050\|00:39:40\|470</wrap>So when we're dealing with the moon and Scorpio, <wrap hide>427\|00:39:41\|110\|00:39:42\|690</wrap>dealing with the second degree, <wrap hide>428\|00:39:42\|690\|00:39:46\|950</wrap>I sometimes wonder whether the entire personality is killed out <wrap hide>429\|00:39:46\|950\|00:39:49\|310</wrap>or whether we have to wait a bit longer for that to happen. <wrap hide>430\|00:39:49\|310\|00:39:52\|900</wrap>But certainly the desires, the lower desires, are relinquished, <wrap hide>431\|00:39:53\|330\|00:39:56\|130</wrap>and higher desires take their place. <wrap hide>432\|00:39:56\|130\|00:40:00\|630</wrap>There are still tests, personality tests, which lie ahead <wrap hide>433\|00:40:01\|450\|00:40:04\|670</wrap>which, I think, demonstrate that the personality is alive and well, <wrap hide>434\|00:40:04\|670\|00:40:08\|770</wrap>but at least its very lowest orientations are relinquished, <wrap hide>435\|00:40:08\|770\|00:40:12\|770</wrap>and very rapid progress can be made after the second degree. We are told <wrap hide>436\|00:40:12\|770\|00:40:17\|830</wrap>the disciple enters the stream and is purified in that stream <wrap hide>437\|00:40:17\|830\|00:40:21\|390</wrap>and is swept along by the current of that stream. <wrap hide>438\|00:40:22\|530\|00:40:27\|350</wrap>So the disciple, after the death of the personality and after the killing out of desire, <wrap hide>439\|00:40:28\|510\|00:40:30\|210</wrap>each related to the other, <wrap hide>440\|00:40:30\|210\|00:40:33\|310</wrap><wrap quote>goes on towards Pisces where again he dies <wrap hide>441\|00:40:33\|850\|00:40:36\|850</wrap>unto an eternal resurrection,</wrap> <wrap hide>442\|00:40:36\|850\|00:40:43\|670</wrap>a resurrection into the true life of the realization of eternity, <wrap hide>443\|00:40:43\|670\|00:40:47\|190</wrap>which is soul perception and triadic perception. <wrap hide>444\|00:40:47\|930\|00:40:55\|010</wrap>And he is no longer condemned to the limitations of personality consciousness <wrap hide>445\|00:40:56\|670\|00:41:01\|910</wrap>which obscure the eternal nature of life <wrap hide>446\|00:41:01\|910\|00:41:10\|970</wrap>and make us believe in our own death because the personality is dying. <wrap hide>447\|00:41:12\|310\|00:41:16\|110</wrap><wrap quote>In Scorpio there is the death of the personality <wrap hide>448\|00:41:16\|990\|00:41:20\|010</wrap>with its longings, desires, ambition and pride.</wrap> <wrap hide>449\|00:41:20\|010\|00:41:25\|850</wrap>So some emotional factors are included here, <wrap hide>450\|00:41:25\|850\|00:41:30\|950</wrap>but also mental factors and factors arising from the mixing <wrap hide>451\|00:41:31\|910\|00:41:37\|210</wrap>the mama monastic mixing of mind and desire, ambition and pride. <wrap hide>452\|00:41:41\|710\|00:41:49\|110</wrap>Although ambition or the love of power is relegated to the emotional heads of the hydra, <wrap hide>453\|00:41:49\|110\|00:41:51\|330</wrap>and pride to the mental heads, <wrap hide>454\|00:41:51\|330\|00:41:56\|030</wrap>so the different aspects of the personality, we have to die to them <wrap hide>455\|00:41:56\|930\|00:41:59\|450</wrap>if there is to be the death of the personality altogether. <wrap hide>456\|00:41:59\|450\|00:42:06\|530</wrap>And I would say it's far more complete at the third degree than it is at the second, <wrap hide>457\|00:42:07\|070\|00:42:10\|410</wrap>though maybe the greatest of the battles occurs at the second degree <wrap hide>458\|00:42:10\|410\|00:42:14\|170</wrap>because the astral body is generically so strong. <wrap hide>459\|00:42:15\|610\|00:42:21\|810</wrap>In Scorpio there is the death of the personality with its longings, desires, ambition and pride. <wrap hide>460\|00:42:21\|810\|00:42:25\|910</wrap>We learn a true humility. Hercules does kneel, does he not? <wrap hide>461\|00:42:25\|910\|00:42:30\|810</wrap>And Capricorn is connected with the kneeling process as well: <wrap hide>462\|00:42:30\|810\|00:42:36\|470</wrap>the great pilgrimage undertaken upon one's knees, <wrap hide>463\|00:42:37\|950\|00:42:41\|990</wrap>without being able to locomote, <wrap hide>464\|00:42:43\|470\|00:42:50\|250</wrap>definitely limiting one's speed in a deliberate manner, <wrap hide>465\|00:42:50\|990\|00:42:53\|170</wrap>handicapping oneself in a way. <wrap hide>466\|00:42:53\|990\|00:42:59\|090</wrap>The handicap seems to refer to the arms and the hands, <wrap hide>467\|00:42:59\|090\|00:43:04\|750</wrap>but cutting off at the knees is also a kind of handicap, isn't it? <wrap hide>468\|00:43:05\|670\|00:43:09\|910</wrap>In Scorpio there is the death of the personality with its longings, desires, ambition and pride. <wrap hide>469\|00:43:09\|910\|00:43:14\|390</wrap><wrap quote>In Pisces there is the death of all attachments <wrap hide>470\|00:43:16\|250\|00:43:19\|490</wrap>and the liberation of the soul <wrap hide>471\|00:43:19\|490\|00:43:23\|790</wrap>for service upon a universal scale.</wrap> <wrap hide>472\|00:43:24\|350\|00:43:32\|770</wrap>And that cannot be—this scale cannot be achieved <wrap hide>473\|00:43:33\|390\|00:43:39\|450</wrap>until the fourth and even better the fifth degree. <wrap hide>474\|00:43:40\|570\|00:43:46\|710</wrap>The fourth degree is often taken in Aquarius. <wrap hide>475\|00:43:46\|710\|00:43:50\|110</wrap>Aquarius can be taken in Pisces too. <wrap hide>476\|00:43:50\|110\|00:43:55\|410</wrap>Aquarius is the sign of universality, universal love. <wrap hide>477\|00:43:57\|630\|00:44:03\|090</wrap>So we're not just speaking of service to our immediate environment <wrap hide>478\|00:44:03\|090\|00:44:05\|970</wrap>and those who are near us, <wrap hide>479\|00:44:06\|520\|00:44:12\|750</wrap>but we're speaking as well of service on a grander scale to humanity <wrap hide>480\|00:44:12\|750\|00:44:19\|170</wrap>and to the planet and eventually even beyond to the solar system. <wrap hide>481\|00:44:20\|270\|00:44:23\|010</wrap>Two types of death, I think that's— <wrap hide>482\|00:44:23\|690\|00:44:27\|850</wrap>one is in a way the death of the personality in Scorpio. <wrap hide>483\|00:44:29\|610\|00:44:33\|070</wrap>But the ancient one, interestingly enough, <wrap hide>484\|00:44:33\|610\|00:44:37\|930</wrap>can also be considered the consciousness within the causal body— <wrap hide>485\|00:44:37\|930\|00:44:39\|110</wrap>ancient indeed, <wrap hide>486\|00:44:40\|470\|00:44:45\|050</wrap>having been our place of retreat <wrap hide>487\|00:44:45\|050\|00:44:47\|990</wrap>for millions upon millions of years. <wrap hide>488\|00:44:47\|990\|00:44:53\|570</wrap>And that ancient one eventually dies. <wrap hide>489\|00:44:54\|190\|00:44:57\|150</wrap>Consciousness limited by the causal body dies <wrap hide>490\|00:44:57\|150\|00:45:00\|530</wrap>and is released into the realms of universality, <wrap hide>491\|00:45:00\|530\|00:45:05\|310</wrap>which, for our purposes, as humanity can appreciate universality, <wrap hide>492\|00:45:06\|490\|00:45:09\|090</wrap>those realms are the cosmic ethers. <wrap hide>493\|00:45:10\|130\|00:45:12\|470</wrap>He goes on to say that <wrap quote>Christ in Pisces <wrap hide>494\|00:45:14\|270\|00:45:18\|110</wrap>exemplified the substitution of love for attachment.</wrap> <wrap hide>495\|00:45:18\|890\|00:45:23\|250</wrap>And of course the Buddha also relinquished attachment <wrap hide>496\|00:45:23\|970\|00:45:28\|510</wrap>and substituted for it a great and profound wisdom, <wrap hide>497\|00:45:28\|510\|00:45:30\|270</wrap>not devoid of love at all, <wrap hide>498\|00:45:30\|270\|00:45:36\|310</wrap>but the greater emphasis for the Christ was upon the love energy per se, <wrap hide>499\|00:45:36\|310\|00:45:38\|510</wrap>the love side of the love-wisdom energy. <wrap hide>500\|00:45:39\|110\|00:45:47\|470</wrap>So Christ in Pisces exemplified the substitution of love for attachment. <wrap hide>501\|00:45:48\|370\|00:45:51\|110</wrap>And it's such an interesting thing that <wrap hide>502\|00:45:52\|150\|00:45:57\|430</wrap>the release of the radiation of true love does overcome attachment. <wrap hide>503\|00:45:57\|430\|00:46:02\|010</wrap>So often we, the personality, in our personality identification, <wrap hide>504\|00:46:02\|010\|00:46:05\|850</wrap>attempt to pry ourselves loose from our attachments, <wrap hide>505\|00:46:05\|850\|00:46:09\|110</wrap>but we are then working strictly on the personality level <wrap hide>506\|00:46:09\|110\|00:46:15\|910</wrap>with far less opportunity for success—likelihood of success. <wrap hide>507\|00:46:16\|630\|00:46:19\|530</wrap>When we change our identification to a soul identification <wrap hide>508\|00:46:19\|530\|00:46:22\|670</wrap>and can actually be love, <wrap hide>509\|00:46:24\|030\|00:46:29\|690</wrap>then our attachments fall more naturally away. <wrap hide>510\|00:46:31\|490\|00:46:34\|940</wrap>So, the substitution of love for attachment. <wrap hide>511\|00:46:35\|650\|00:46:39\|770</wrap>I think we have to pass through the sixth ray phase <wrap hide>512\|00:46:40\|530\|00:46:46\|090</wrap>as it is transformed into the second ray phase <wrap hide>513\|00:46:46\|090\|00:46:49\|450</wrap>in order to understand this substitution. <wrap hide>514\|00:46:50\|350\|00:46:54\|790</wrap><wrap quote> Christianity, here under the sixth ray as he's discussing, <wrap hide>515\|00:46:54\|790\|00:46:57\|790</wrap>exemplifies the death of the personality <wrap hide>516\|00:46:59\|310\|00:47:04\|310</wrap>with individual and not universal implications.</wrap> <wrap hide>517\|00:47:06\|110\|00:47:16\|410</wrap>So we first have to learn to abide the death of that with which we have identified <wrap hide>518\|00:47:16\|410\|00:47:21\|310</wrap>for so many millions of years before we can be released into <wrap hide>519\|00:47:21\|870\|00:47:26\|950</wrap>a more universal state of consciousness and effectiveness. <wrap hide>520\|00:47:28\|370\|00:47:30\|250</wrap>And this is quite a statement here. <wrap hide>521\|00:47:30\|730\|00:47:37\|950</wrap>You know, it is said to the sixth ray type in the <wrap hide>522\|00:47:38\|710\|00:47:41\|470</wrap>sixth ray integration formula: "Love more <wrap hide>523\|00:47:42\|110\|00:47:44\|810</wrap>your fellow men. Run not so straight <wrap hide>524\|00:47:44\|810\|00:47:48\|870</wrap>the path. You are on leads to the outer circle of the will of God. <wrap hide>525\|00:47:48\|870\|00:47:50\|910</wrap>The line goes forward to the outer rim. <wrap hide>526\|00:47:51\|930\|00:47:54\|030</wrap>Stand at the center. Look on every side. <wrap hide>527\|00:47:54\|030\|00:47:56\|910</wrap>Die not for outer forms. <wrap hide>528\|00:47:59\|230\|00:48:02\|950</wrap>Forget not God who dwells behind the vision. <wrap hide>529\|00:48:02\|950\|00:48:05\|210</wrap>Love more your fellow men." <wrap hide>530\|00:48:07\|630\|00:48:12\|070</wrap>So, one may love the ideal without loving one's fellow human beings, <wrap hide>531\|00:48:12\|070\|00:48:14\|550</wrap>and here is what the Tibetan says: <wrap hide>532\|00:48:14\|550\|00:48:17\|470</wrap><wrap quote>"Love has been conspicuously lacking, <wrap hide>533\|00:48:19\|070\|00:48:22\|790</wrap>and the controlling color of Christianity has indeed <wrap hide>534\|00:48:22\|790\|00:48:27\|430</wrap>been red</wrap>—Martian red." <wrap hide>535\|00:48:27\|430\|00:48:30\|890</wrap>Not something that we're used to thinking about, <wrap hide>536\|00:48:30\|890\|00:48:34\|310</wrap>perhaps at Easter time or Christmas time, <wrap hide>537\|00:48:34\|310\|00:48:40\|210</wrap>when the love energy is flooding the consciousness of the worshippers. <wrap hide>538\|00:48:40\|510\|00:48:43\|350</wrap>But if we look at this with historical accuracy, <wrap hide>539\|00:48:45\|310\|00:48:50\|050</wrap>then I think we will have to agree with the Tibetan. <wrap hide>540\|00:48:50\|050\|00:48:55\|510</wrap>And there is a karmic price to pay. <wrap hide>541\|00:48:55\|510\|00:48:56\|810</wrap>Some of it has been paid. <wrap hide>542\|00:48:56\|810\|00:48:59\|750</wrap>There is a karmic price to pay <wrap hide>543\|00:49:00\|790\|00:49:08\|990</wrap>for wielding this devoted, idealistic energy in a cruel manner <wrap hide>544\|00:49:08\|990\|00:49:10\|290</wrap>under the red of Mars. <wrap hide>545\|00:49:11\|210\|00:49:14\|090</wrap><wrap quote>It is not Christ's expression, <wrap hide>546\|00:49:15\|010\|00:49:18\|130</wrap>but the Scorpio-Mars presentation of Saint Paul.</wrap> <wrap hide>547\|00:49:20\|430\|00:49:24\|210</wrap>And D.K. really draws a line here, doesn't he? <wrap hide>548\|00:49:24\|890\|00:49:30\|410</wrap>Later, Saint Paul came into a tremendous realization of Buddhic love, <wrap hide>549\|00:49:30\|410\|00:49:34\|990</wrap>and even now he is working with the Buddhic energy, we are told, <wrap hide>550\|00:49:35\|930\|00:49:39\|930</wrap>with the revelation of that energy. Interesting for a fifth-ray chohan. <wrap hide>551\|00:49:41\|070\|00:49:46\|010</wrap>You know, our limited conceptions of the rays and their interactions <wrap hide>552\|00:49:46\|010\|00:49:48\|390</wrap>cannot fully reveal to us <wrap hide>553\|00:49:48\|390\|00:49:51\|550</wrap>what a master on any of these rays may do. <wrap hide>554\|00:49:52\|410\|00:49:56\|530</wrap>But it's been my theory that Paul, or Saul, <wrap hide>555\|00:49:57\|650\|00:50:03\|210</wrap>was a sixth-ray soul who made his transition into a second-ray soul <wrap hide>556\|00:50:03\|210\|00:50:07\|290</wrap>and then received this revelation of love. <wrap hide>557\|00:50:07\|290\|00:50:10\|190</wrap>Is it in the thirteenth chapter of Corinthians, <wrap hide>558\|00:50:10\|190\|00:50:14\|550</wrap>which stands out among all discussions of love <wrap hide>559\|00:50:14\|550\|00:50:19\|030</wrap>as the most profound revelation of the nature of love? <wrap hide>560\|00:50:20\|850\|00:50:24\|370</wrap>But the damage had been done, in a way, <wrap hide>561\|00:50:24\|370\|00:50:32\|630</wrap>and his zeal is what impressed Christianity, to a great measure. <wrap hide>562\|00:50:33\|810\|00:50:40\|310</wrap>And his later expression of the great value of love <wrap hide>563\|00:50:40\|310\|00:50:43\|370</wrap>has been somewhat de-emphasized, <wrap hide>564\|00:50:43\|370\|00:50:47\|490</wrap>except by those who really can understand the nature of the transitions <wrap hide>565\|00:50:47\|490\|00:50:48\|450</wrap>through which he passed. <wrap hide>566\|00:50:48\|450\|00:50:53\|570</wrap>So it is not Christ's expression, but the Scorpio-Mars presentation of Saint Paul. <wrap hide>567\|00:50:54\|710\|00:50:57\|630</wrap><wrap quote>Mars has ruled Christianity <wrap hide>568\|00:50:58\|690\|00:51:01\|590</wrap>because Saint Paul misinterpreted <wrap hide>569\|00:51:03\|690\|00:51:08\|470</wrap>the esoteric significances of the New Testament message. <wrap hide>570\|00:51:09\|670\|00:51:14\|030</wrap>And he misinterpreted because the truth, like all truths as they reach humanity, <wrap hide>571\|00:51:14\|810\|00:51:19\|250</wrap>had to pass through the filter of his personality, mind, and brain,</wrap> <wrap hide>572\|00:51:21\|670\|00:51:26\|670</wrap>which was highly conditioned by Judaism and by Jewish theology, <wrap hide>573\|00:51:27\|550\|00:51:33\|730</wrap>and therefore by a method of thinking <wrap hide>574\|00:51:33\|730\|00:51:39\|610</wrap>which was prevalent in the previous solar system <wrap hide>575\|00:51:40\|530\|00:51:44\|630</wrap>and which was conditioned by the third aspect. <wrap hide>576\|00:51:44\|630\|00:51:54\|190</wrap>So in many ways, Saint Paul complicated the message of the founder of Christianity. <wrap hide>577\|00:51:56\|190\|00:51:58\|630</wrap>Misinterpretation—this means the lower mind. <wrap hide>578\|00:51:59\|710\|00:52:02\|530</wrap>Well, let's just say Saint Paul was subject to illusion. <wrap hide>579\|00:52:02\|530\|00:52:04\|270</wrap>He had not yet taken the third degree. <wrap hide>580\|00:52:05\|830\|00:52:12\|690</wrap>And illusion is, to a great extent, expelled or dispelled at the third degree, <wrap hide>581\|00:52:12\|690\|00:52:16\|550</wrap>though ultimately not until the ninth in terms of the cosmic physical plane, we are told. <wrap hide>582\|00:52:17\|310\|00:52:21\|810</wrap>But as far as the usual illusions in which humanity labors, <wrap hide>583\|00:52:22\|910\|00:52:25\|890</wrap>it is dispelled at the third degree. <wrap hide>584\|00:52:25\|890\|00:52:31\|990</wrap>And he had not yet taken that degree when the damage was being done— <wrap hide>585\|00:52:32\|530\|00:52:35\|490</wrap>the skewing, the misdirecting, the misinterpreting. <wrap hide>586\|00:52:37\|030\|00:52:43\|350</wrap>Probably every master has something along this line to live down <wrap hide>587\|00:52:45\|110\|00:52:50\|250</wrap>when he is not yet illumined in the third-degree sense <wrap hide>588\|00:52:50\|250\|00:52:55\|690</wrap>and with zeal presents a certain way of life or a certain teaching. <wrap hide>589\|00:52:56\|510\|00:53:02\|230</wrap>So the truth of the Christ was filtered through the personality, mind and brain <wrap hide>590\|00:53:02\|530\|00:53:07\|850</wrap>which was conditioned strongly by the ancient Jewish approach. <wrap hide>591\|00:53:09\|390\|00:53:14\|570</wrap>It was then unavoidably given a personal slant and twist <wrap hide>592\|00:53:14\|570\|00:53:18\|570</wrap>because after all, Saint Paul was passing through great struggles as a Scorpion type. <wrap hide>593\|00:53:19\|770\|00:53:24\|250</wrap>He gave us that struggling ray statement: <wrap hide>594\|00:53:25\|370\|00:53:28\|050</wrap>essentially this, that the good I would do I do not, <wrap hide>595\|00:53:28\|050\|00:53:31\|050</wrap>and the evil that I would not do, that I do. <wrap hide>596\|00:53:31\|050\|00:53:36\|550</wrap>So wretched man that I am, who will save me from the body of this death? <wrap hide>597\|00:53:39\|050\|00:53:45\|570</wrap>The emphasis then given to Christianity is one of the struggling disciple. <wrap hide>598\|00:53:45\|570\|00:53:51\|750</wrap>I am sure it has had its value, but the simple message of "love one another" <wrap hide>599\|00:53:53\|330\|00:53:56\|130</wrap>was not as strongly emphasized as it might be. <wrap hide>600\|00:53:57\|130\|00:54:02\|690</wrap>So then the truth of the Christ was unavoidably— he said— <wrap hide>601\|00:54:02\|690\|00:54:05\|830</wrap>because after all, we must pass through this area of limitation, <wrap hide>602\|00:54:05\|830\|00:54:09\|110</wrap>and we become enthusiastic about a particular way of life, <wrap hide>603\|00:54:09\|110\|00:54:11\|170</wrap>a particular teaching, and we want to present it, <wrap hide>604\|00:54:11\|770\|00:54:15\|190</wrap>and we do present it. <wrap hide>605\|00:54:15\|850\|00:54:21\|310</wrap>But what do we— what damage do we do in the presentation <wrap hide>606\|00:54:21\|310\|00:54:27\|510</wrap>due to our own illusions, our still undispelled glamours, <wrap hide>607\|00:54:28\|110\|00:54:31\|470</wrap>our undispelled glamours, our limitations of consciousness? <wrap hide>608\|00:54:32\|230\|00:54:35\|530</wrap>So <wrap quote>it was then unavoidably given a personal slant and twist, <wrap hide>609\|00:54:36\|110\|00:54:42\|550</wrap>and this is responsible for the sorry historical story of Christianity <wrap hide>610\|00:54:43\|390\|00:54:45\|750</wrap>and the dire plight of the nations today.</wrap> <wrap hide>611\|00:54:45\|750\|00:54:50\|890</wrap>Well, he is laying a lot at Saint Paul's door, isn't he? <wrap hide>612\|00:54:52\|730\|00:54:56\|690</wrap>And I imagine that the Master Jesus as a warrior, as Joshua, <wrap hide>613\|00:54:57\|610\|00:55:02\|310</wrap>as a conqueror of the land, the promised land, <wrap hide>614\|00:55:02\|310\|00:55:04\|470</wrap>which perhaps was not promised at all— <wrap hide>615\|00:55:05\|390\|00:55:09\|770</wrap>the promised land being more Shambhala than a piece of territory— <wrap hide>616\|00:55:11\|290\|00:55:14\|710</wrap>perhaps the Master Jesus as Joshua <wrap hide>617\|00:55:16\|670\|00:55:22\|150</wrap>skewed certain world events in a direction that they need not have taken. <wrap hide>618\|00:55:22\|790\|00:55:25\|970</wrap>So I think all of us have to be very, very cautious <wrap hide>619\|00:55:26\|970\|00:55:31\|470</wrap>when we are affected by great enthusiasm and zeal <wrap hide>620\|00:55:31\|470\|00:55:34\|790</wrap>under the sixth ray, <wrap hide>621\|00:55:36\|550\|00:55:41\|590</wrap>because so often it is our virtues that are concealing vices, <wrap hide>622\|00:55:41\|590\|00:55:45\|230</wrap>and if there is overemphasis upon a particular virtue, <wrap hide>623\|00:55:45\|230\|00:55:48\|930</wrap>it becomes, through imbalance, a vice. <wrap hide>624\|00:55:50\|430\|00:55:53\|010</wrap>I personally take this as quite a warning <wrap hide>625\|00:55:54\|250\|00:56:02\|900</wrap>and I'm sure there are many among us who can apply this to our own discipleship service. <wrap hide>626\|00:56:06\|230\|00:56:08\|710</wrap>So this skewing of the truth, <wrap hide>627\|00:56:09\|390\|00:56:10\|970</wrap>this filtering of the truth, <wrap hide>628\|00:56:10\|970\|00:56:13\|750</wrap>this slanting and twisting of the truth <wrap hide>629\|00:56:14\|750\|00:56:19\|730</wrap>is responsible for the sorry historical story of Christianity <wrap hide>630\|00:56:20\|750\|00:56:23\|550</wrap>and even the dire plight of the nations today, <wrap hide>631\|00:56:23\|550\|00:56:28\|850</wrap>which I suppose are involved, or were involved at that time and still are to a degree, <wrap hide>632\|00:56:29\|570\|00:56:33\|790</wrap>in the wars arising from conflicts of idealism. <wrap hide>633\|00:56:33\|790\|00:56:36\|590</wrap>They are not dealing with each other <wrap hide>634\|00:56:36\|590\|00:56:38\|550</wrap>in love and consideration. <wrap hide>635\|00:56:39\|490\|00:56:41\|750</wrap>They are dealing with each other <wrap hide>636\|00:56:42\|370\|00:56:44\|770</wrap>through the attempt to impose their idealism <wrap hide>637\|00:56:46\|290\|00:56:49\|950</wrap>upon the others which do not share that idealism. <wrap hide>638\|00:56:50\|270\|00:56:54\|110</wrap>It's a very limited point of view, but very self-justifying. <wrap hide>639\|00:56:54\|670\|00:56:56\|110</wrap>It feels right <wrap hide>640\|00:56:56\|650\|00:56:58\|670</wrap>because there is a great surety <wrap hide>641\|00:56:59\|730\|00:57:01\|730</wrap>concerning the idealism <wrap hide>642\|00:57:02\|310\|00:57:04\|690</wrap>of any particular individual or nation. <wrap hide>643\|00:57:04\|690\|00:57:06\|510</wrap>He is blinded from doubt, <wrap hide>644\|00:57:06\|510\|00:57:10\|230</wrap>and doubt can be so healthy— it causes self-examination. <wrap hide>645\|00:57:10\|770\|00:57:12\|870</wrap>There is no doubt in the inadequately <wrap hide>646\|00:57:15\|470\|00:57:16\|830</wrap>psychologized attitude <wrap hide>647\|00:57:17\|730\|00:57:19\|430</wrap>of the sixth ray fanatic. <wrap hide>648\|00:57:20\|590\|00:57:22\|050</wrap>When doubt enters, <wrap hide>649\|00:57:22\|830\|00:57:24\|910</wrap>a new state can supervene. <wrap hide>650\|00:57:26\|970\|00:57:31\|250</wrap>And so we have many <wrap quote> ostensibly Christian nations—</wrap> <wrap hide>651\|00:57:32\|050\|00:57:34\|530</wrap>suppose we are looking at Europe particularly here— <wrap hide>652\|00:57:34\|690\|00:57:36\|910</wrap><wrap quote>yet swept by hate, <wrap hide>653\|00:57:37\|750\|00:57:38\|990</wrap>ruled by fear. </wrap><wrap hide>654\|00:57:39\|770\|00:57:41\|190</wrap>These are Martian <wrap hide>655\|00:57:42\|630\|00:57:45\|810</wrap>qualities, reminding me of the <wrap hide>656\|00:57:45\|810\|00:57:48\|010</wrap>satellites of Mars: <wrap hide>657\|00:57:48\|770\|00:57:50\|130</wrap>Deimos and Phobos. <wrap hide>658\|00:57:50\|770\|00:57:52\|110</wrap>I suppose, <wrap hide>659\|00:57:52\|770\|00:57:54\|370</wrap>fear and <wrap hide>660\|00:57:54\|370\|00:57:56\|090</wrap>hatred. <wrap hide>661\|00:57:56\|770\|00:57:59\|170</wrap>And at the same time, <wrap hide>662\|00:57:59\|770\|00:58:02\|210</wrap>swept by idealism. <wrap hide>663\|00:58:04\|690\|00:58:05\|970</wrap>Excuse me. <wrap hide>664\|00:58:10\|390\|00:58:11\|270</wrap>So, <wrap hide>665\|00:58:12\|630\|00:58:13\|670</wrap>Christian nations... <wrap hide>666\|00:58:15\|450\|00:58:16\|330</wrap>involved <wrap hide>667\|00:58:17\|470\|00:58:19\|630</wrap>in the Great War from 1914 <wrap hide>668\|00:58:20\|550\|00:58:22\|470</wrap>to 1945. <wrap hide>669\|00:58:23\|490\|00:58:25\|110</wrap>This being written in the '30s, <wrap hide>670\|00:58:26\|630\|00:58:28\|050</wrap>Christian nations like <wrap hide>671\|00:58:28\|770\|00:58:30\|810</wrap>Germany, France, England, <wrap hide>672\|00:58:31\|890\|00:58:34\|530</wrap>swept by hate, <wrap quote>ruled by fear, <wrap hide>673\|00:58:35\|610\|00:58:38\|270</wrap>and at the same time by idealism, <wrap hide>1\|00:00:02\|480\|00:00:10\|320</wrap>governed by a fanatical adherence to their <wrap hide>675\|00:58:41\|550\|00:58:44\|990</wrap>national destiny as they interpret it,</wrap> <wrap hide>676\|00:58:44\|990\|00:58:49\|070</wrap>which is really lower egoism on a national scale, isn't it? <wrap hide>677\|00:58:50\|050\|00:58:51\|010</wrap><wrap quote>And out for blood, <wrap hide>678\|00:58:51\|910\|00:58:54\|270</wrap>as the piling up of armaments <wrap hide>679\|00:58:54\|950\|00:58:56\|030</wrap>discloses.</wrap> So, <wrap hide>680\|00:58:57\|230\|00:58:59\|710</wrap>not seeing the value of the other <wrap hide>681\|00:58:59\|710\|00:59:02\|990</wrap>nation's orientation, but <wrap hide>682\|00:59:03\|830\|00:59:04\|670</wrap>determined in the way that they are <wrap hide>683\|00:59:04\|690\|00:59:05\|490</wrap>in a Martian manner <wrap hide>684\|00:59:05\|490\|00:59:07\|110</wrap>to conquer, <wrap hide>685\|00:59:07\|110\|00:59:09\|190</wrap>blinded by the narrowness <wrap hide>686\|00:59:09\|190\|00:59:13\|890</wrap>of the sixth ray. And this is playing out on the world stage even today <wrap hide>687\|00:59:14\|730\|00:59:15\|490</wrap>between <wrap hide>688\|00:59:16\|910\|00:59:20\|850</wrap>what have been called clashing civilizations <wrap hide>689\|00:59:21\|650\|00:59:24\|690</wrap>and the various nations which come under <wrap hide>690\|00:59:25\|590\|00:59:26\|850</wrap>those categories. <wrap hide>691\|00:59:27\|790\|00:59:32\|170</wrap>This involves, as well, religion and nationalism today <wrap hide>692\|00:59:33\|090\|00:59:35\|210</wrap>and has to be <wrap hide>693\|00:59:35\|210\|00:59:37\|190</wrap>solved at last <wrap hide>694\|00:59:38\|130\|00:59:40\|870</wrap>during the next hundred years, and hopefully much sooner. <wrap hide>695\|00:59:42\|130\|00:59:45\|250</wrap>The sixth ray will be fading out, we are told, altogether <wrap hide>696\|00:59:47\|410\|00:59:48\|050</wrap>by <wrap hide>697\|00:59:49\|170\|00:59:50\|350</wrap>the early... <wrap hide>698\|00:59:53\|210\|00:59:54\|530</wrap>Well, let's see: <wrap hide>699\|00:59:55\|590\|00:59:57\|930</wrap>22nd century, I suppose... 21-something: <wrap hide>700\|00:59:57\|930\|01:00:00\|630</wrap>2125, 2130. <wrap hide>701\|01:00:00\|630\|01:00:04\|450</wrap>And the Pisces energy will have completely <wrap hide>702\|01:00:04\|450\|01:00:06\|870</wrap>lifted and faded <wrap hide>703\|01:00:07\|370\|01:00:09\|350</wrap>at the end of this, our present century. <wrap hide>704\|01:00:10\|430\|01:00:12\|610</wrap>So this attitude, <wrap hide>705\|01:00:13\|570\|01:00:16\|510</wrap>which is so dangerous in a nuclear age, <wrap hide>706\|01:00:16\|510\|01:00:19\|050</wrap>this kind of intersection of <wrap hide>707\|01:00:19\|370\|01:00:21\|810</wrap>sixth ray Piscean fanaticism <wrap hide>708\|01:00:22\|630\|01:00:26\|010</wrap>with the early development of atomic energy <wrap hide>709\|01:00:26\|710\|01:00:28\|090</wrap>under Aquarius, <wrap hide>710\|01:00:28\|710\|01:00:30\|390</wrap>presents <wrap hide>711\|01:00:30\|630\|01:00:32\|790</wrap>some very dire possibilities <wrap hide>712\|01:00:33\|650\|01:00:35\|010</wrap>to humanity. <wrap hide>713\|01:00:36\|250\|01:00:38\|790</wrap>And we have to hope that somehow <wrap hide>714\|01:00:39\|710\|01:00:42\|670</wrap>our better angels, as it were, can see us through this <wrap hide>715\|01:00:42\|670\|01:00:45\|070</wrap>with the help of the Hierarchy. <wrap hide>716\|01:00:45\|550\|01:00:47\|670</wrap>We cannot have <wrap hide>717\|01:00:47\|670\|01:00:50\|030</wrap>the Martian religious war <wrap hide>718\|01:00:51\|270\|01:00:53\|570</wrap>about which D.K. warned, <wrap hide>719\|01:00:54\|710\|01:00:58\|170</wrap>not specifying who the combatants would be. But now <wrap hide>720\|01:00:58\|170\|01:01:00\|950</wrap>it is pretty clear who the combatants <wrap hide>721\|01:01:02\|070\|01:01:03\|950</wrap>would be, and this <wrap hide>722\|01:01:03\|950\|01:01:05\|950</wrap>some 60 years <wrap hide>723\|01:01:06\|790\|01:01:08\|350</wrap>after he <wrap hide>724\|01:01:08\|350\|01:01:11\|390</wrap>wrote about these dire possibilities. <wrap hide>725\|01:01:14\|050\|01:01:14\|890</wrap>So, <wrap hide>726\|01:01:16\|090\|01:01:19\|550</wrap>blood... Mars... the spilling of blood, <wrap hide>727\|01:01:20\|670\|01:01:23\|270</wrap>the attitude of conquest <wrap hide>728\|01:01:23\|270\|01:01:27\|410</wrap>dictated by a narrow idealism <wrap hide>729\|01:01:28\|170\|01:01:33\|150</wrap>which does not honor or see value in the other person or nation's point of view: <wrap hide>730\|01:01:34\|290\|01:01:37\|050</wrap>these are six-ray characteristics. <wrap hide>731\|01:01:37\|050\|01:01:40\|470</wrap>Well, this is the <wrap hide>732\|01:01:41\|250\|01:01:41\|910</wrap>end. <wrap hide>733\|01:01:43\|100\|01:01:43\|510</wrap>Yes. <wrap hide>734\|01:01:45\|080\|01:01:48\|330</wrap>This is the end of the first part of 78. <wrap hide>735\|01:01:51\|870\|01:01:54\|250</wrap>So this is EAA 78, <wrap hide>736\|01:01:54\|250\|01:01:55\|010</wrap>78, <wrap hide>737\|01:01:57\|070\|01:01:59\|670</wrap>and it's the A part of it, <wrap hide>738\|01:01:59\|670\|01:02:01\|350</wrap>and it's page something... <wrap hide>739\|01:02:02\|130\|01:02:03\|210</wrap>Let's see: <wrap hide>740\|01:02:10\|310\|01:02:11\|470</wrap>page 215, <wrap hide>741\|01:02:13\|170\|01:02:14\|250</wrap>I suppose. <wrap hide>742\|01:02:18\|550\|01:02:22\|670</wrap>I'm dividing it this way as it probably makes it a little easier to put it on YouTube. <wrap hide>743\|01:02:24\|250\|01:02:26\|210</wrap>But let us continue <wrap hide>744\|01:02:26\|210\|01:02:28\|810</wrap>into part B. <wrap hide>745\|01:02:34\|070\|01:02:35\|330</wrap>Part B. <wrap hide>746\|01:02:36\|590\|01:02:40\|710</wrap>Just continuing where we left off. <wrap hide>747\|01:02:43\|170\|01:02:45\|330</wrap>The nations out for blood, <wrap hide>748\|01:02:45\|330\|01:02:47\|250</wrap>just the way competitive <wrap hide>749\|01:02:47\|970\|01:02:50\|490</wrap>human beings seeking to dominate each other <wrap hide>750\|01:02:50\|490\|01:02:51\|810</wrap>are out for blood. <wrap hide>751\|01:02:51\|810\|01:02:54\|430</wrap>It may be done in the economic sphere, in the political sphere, <wrap hide>752\|01:02:54\|430\|01:02:56\|830</wrap>in the religious sphere. It doesn't make any difference. <wrap hide>753\|01:02:57\|570\|01:02:59\|690</wrap>We seek to kill the enemy <wrap hide>754\|01:03:00\|690\|01:03:02\|190</wrap>rather than absorb <wrap hide>755\|01:03:02\|890\|01:03:05\|250</wrap>the value of the enemy and <wrap hide>756\|01:03:05\|890\|01:03:10\|230</wrap>have those other values influence our values for the good. <wrap hide>757\|01:03:10\|890\|01:03:12\|670</wrap>Alexander the Great, for all of his <wrap hide>758\|01:03:14\|870\|01:03:19\|630</wrap>tendency towards conquest, was strongly motivated by the fourth ray, I believe, and <wrap hide>759\|01:03:19\|630\|01:03:23\|550</wrap>seemed to absorb the best values <wrap hide>760\|01:03:23\|550\|01:03:29\|230</wrap>of the civilizations and groups that he conquered, <wrap hide>761\|01:03:29\|230\|01:03:31\|100</wrap>especially Persia in this case. <wrap hide>762\|01:03:31\|990\|01:03:34\|210</wrap>But that's not the sixth ray attitude. <wrap hide>763\|01:03:34\|210\|01:03:36\|710</wrap>The sixth ray attitude is to completely annihilate <wrap hide>764\|01:03:38\|270\|01:03:40\|130</wrap>the conquered group <wrap hide>765\|01:03:41\|150\|01:03:43\|310</wrap>or to enslave them. <wrap hide>766\|01:03:44\|810\|01:03:48\|290</wrap>And it's amazing the calls for slavery <wrap hide>767\|01:03:48\|290\|01:03:52\|390</wrap>that are still emerging in our modern era, <wrap hide>768\|01:03:53\|990\|01:03:56\|650</wrap>even sex slavery. <wrap hide>769\|01:03:57\|370\|01:04:02\|210</wrap>This coming in under Mars, which we have just been seeing, <wrap hide>770\|01:04:02\|210\|01:04:04\|190</wrap>rules sex. <wrap hide>771\|01:04:05\|350\|01:04:08\|730</wrap>So there's a strong Scorpionic tendency here. <wrap hide>772\|01:04:09\|370\|01:04:11\|670</wrap>Scorpio in the lower aspect to reawaken <wrap hide>773\|01:04:12\|370\|01:04:13\|370</wrap>the hydra <wrap hide>774\|01:04:14\|210\|01:04:16\|590</wrap>and allow the hydra to dominate. <wrap hide>775\|01:04:16\|590\|01:04:21\|100</wrap>But all of this will be swept aside in the general cleansing <wrap hide>776\|01:04:21\|790\|01:04:24\|020</wrap>that Aquarius will bring <wrap hide>777\|01:04:24\|830\|01:04:29\|910</wrap>with the two rivers, the Alpheus and Peneus, <wrap hide>778\|01:04:30\|670\|01:04:34\|010</wrap>sweeping through the stables <wrap hide>779\|01:04:34\|640\|01:04:37\|650</wrap>of King Augeas. <wrap hide>780\|01:04:39\|850\|01:04:42\|920</wrap>Cleansing all the three levels. <wrap hide>781\|01:04:43\|860\|01:04:46\|680</wrap>This is inevitable, but <wrap hide>782\|01:04:46\|680\|01:04:50\|220</wrap>many who call for the reawakening of <wrap hide>783\|01:04:51\|000\|01:04:54\|040</wrap>very ancient attitudes don't see forward. <wrap hide>784\|01:04:54\|040\|01:04:56\|180</wrap>They see only backward. This is a great danger, <wrap hide>785\|01:04:56\|740\|01:04:58\|840</wrap>and the sixth ray has a sentimental, <wrap hide>786\|01:05:00\|320\|01:05:02\|380</wrap>reactionary side to it which <wrap hide>787\|01:05:03\|000\|01:05:07\|500</wrap>seeks to seek former glory. <wrap hide>788\|01:05:07\|500\|01:05:10\|960</wrap>Whenever former glory is sought, <wrap hide>789\|01:05:11\|780\|01:05:13\|480</wrap>we are in a position <wrap hide>790\|01:05:15\|780\|01:05:19\|060</wrap>which will lead to destruction and despair. <wrap hide>791\|01:05:22\|580\|01:05:25\|380</wrap>The Italians in World War II <wrap hide>792\|01:05:25\|920\|01:05:27\|680</wrap>sought the former glory of Rome. <wrap hide>793\|01:05:27\|680\|01:05:32\|400</wrap>The Germans sought the former glory of the magnificent <wrap hide>794\|01:05:34\|180\|01:05:36\|900</wrap>Teuton who had been somehow corrupted. <wrap hide>795\|01:05:40\|040\|01:05:41\|520</wrap>The Jews— <wrap hide>796\|01:05:41\|520\|01:05:47\|720</wrap>the Jewish group seeks to reestablish the ancient land of Israel. <wrap hide>797\|01:05:48\|980\|01:05:50\|500</wrap>The Islamic group— <wrap hide>798\|01:05:51\|660\|01:05:57\|860</wrap>some of them seek to reestablish the conquered caliphate. <wrap hide>799\|01:05:58\|980\|01:06:03\|840</wrap>Former glory is always a dangerous pursuit <wrap hide>800\|01:06:03\|840\|01:06:10\|220</wrap>and is no true vision of the descending plan <wrap hide>801\|01:06:10\|730\|01:06:12\|380</wrap>which the intuition reveals. <wrap hide>802\|01:06:14\|100\|01:06:17\|280</wrap>So all of these negative characteristics, says D.K., <wrap hide>803\|01:06:17\|280\|01:06:19\|560</wrap><wrap quote> All these are six-ray characteristics <wrap hide>804\|01:06:20\|740\|01:06:24\|140</wrap>emphasized by Scorpio and conditioned by Mars.</wrap> <wrap hide>805\|01:06:24\|140\|01:06:28\|600</wrap>Scorpio is the greater entity here, the lord of the constellation Scorpio, <wrap hide>806\|01:06:28\|600\|01:06:31\|480</wrap>and the lesser lord of the planet Mars, <wrap hide>807\|01:06:31\|480\|01:06:33\|900</wrap>which is kind of a student, you might say, <wrap hide>808\|01:06:34\|560\|01:06:37\|000</wrap>of the lord of the constellation Scorpio. <wrap hide>809\|01:06:38\|600\|01:06:44\|960</wrap>So all these are six-ray characteristics emphasized by Scorpio, <wrap hide>810\|01:06:45\|560\|01:06:50\|800</wrap>the application conditioned by the militancy, <wrap hide>811\|01:06:51\|280\|01:06:53\|060</wrap>the war-like nature of Mars, <wrap hide>812\|01:06:54\|420\|01:06:57\|360</wrap><wrap quote>which rules the path of the individual disciple.</wrap> <wrap hide>813\|01:06:58\|820\|01:06:59\|460</wrap>Interesting. <wrap hide>814\|01:07:02\|020\|01:07:05\|900</wrap>Mars ruling the path of the individual disciple. <wrap hide>815\|01:07:05\|900\|01:07:09\|840</wrap>It seems discipleship is necessarily, as we understand it, <wrap hide>816\|01:07:09\|840\|01:07:12\|620</wrap>at least on Earth, filled with conflict. <wrap hide>817\|01:07:12\|620\|01:07:14\|460</wrap>We do live on a conflicted planet. <wrap hide>818\|01:07:16\|250\|01:07:22\|540</wrap>And we are graduates of a school of purifying pain and releasing sorrow. <wrap hide>819\|01:07:23\|330\|01:07:25\|380</wrap>We live on a planet of painful endeavor, <wrap hide>820\|01:07:26\|160\|01:07:28\|660</wrap>and so much of the pain is caused by <wrap hide>821\|01:07:30\|560\|01:07:32\|680</wrap>the clash of battle, <wrap hide>822\|01:07:33\|820\|01:07:39\|020</wrap>the conflict brought on by Mars, <wrap hide>823\|01:07:39\|020\|01:07:46\|120</wrap>a major contributing planet to the psychic and energic condition <wrap hide>824\|01:07:46\|420\|01:07:49\|800</wrap>of the Earth at this time and of humanity at this time. <wrap hide>825\|01:07:51\|080\|01:07:53\|660</wrap>So it seems that one cannot really be a disciple <wrap hide>826\|01:07:53\|660\|01:07:56\|180</wrap>unless one is ready to battle <wrap hide>827\|01:07:57\|480\|01:08:00\|820</wrap>on behalf of the higher aspect of oneself <wrap hide>828\|01:08:00\|820\|01:08:07\|020</wrap>with the reassertion, strenuous reassertion, of the lower aspect of oneself. <wrap hide>829\|01:08:07\|020\|01:08:15\|600</wrap><wrap quote>And today the world disciple, humanity as a whole, stands at the very portal of the path</wrap> <wrap hide>830\|01:08:15\|600\|01:08:16\|760</wrap>and is engaged— <wrap hide>831\|01:08:16\|760\|01:08:19\|820</wrap>well, this was written in the interim between <wrap hide>832\|01:08:21\|320\|01:08:26\|940</wrap>two great wars which D.K. sees as one great war, <wrap hide>833\|01:08:28\|120\|01:08:33\|260</wrap>1914 to 1945. So even though this was written in the early '30s, <wrap hide>834\|01:08:34\|680\|01:08:39\|260</wrap>I suppose the masters knew in a way that they were involved in a larger <wrap hide>835\|01:08:40\|120\|01:08:41\|820</wrap>war, a larger process, <wrap hide>836\|01:08:42\|500\|01:08:46\|900</wrap>and could see ahead to the possibility, although they strove <wrap hide>837\|01:08:49\|440\|01:08:53\|060</wrap>strenuously through goodwill initiatives to avoid <wrap hide>838\|01:08:53\|740\|01:08:56\|900</wrap>the second phase of the precipitation of the war. <wrap hide>839\|01:08:59\|300\|01:09:03\|320</wrap>So even then, humanity was the world disciple today, <wrap hide>840\|01:09:03\|320\|01:09:07\|740</wrap>involved in all manner of conflicts and the attempt to reconcile conflicts <wrap hide>841\|01:09:07\|740\|01:09:14\|300</wrap>under the United Nations. Humanity still stands at the very portal of the path <wrap hide>842\|01:09:14\|300\|01:09:17\|540</wrap>with the Aquarian energy getting stronger and stronger all the time <wrap hide>843\|01:09:18\|320\|01:09:22\|440</wrap>and bringing the universal love of the Christ closer. <wrap hide>844\|01:09:23\|040\|01:09:28\|020</wrap>But as that love descends, of course, it evokes its opposite. <wrap hide>845\|01:09:29\|860\|01:09:32\|400</wrap><wrap quote>The entire West is at this time <wrap hide>846\|01:09:34\|480\|01:09:35\|160</wrap>under <wrap hide>847\|01:09:38\|800\|01:09:40\|160</wrap>Martian influence. <wrap hide>848\|01:09:40\|160\|01:09:44\|040</wrap>But this will end during the next five years.</wrap> <wrap hide>849\|01:09:45\|780\|01:09:52\|340</wrap>Well, okay, it's difficult to know exactly when sections of this book were written, <wrap hide>850\|01:09:52\|340\|01:09:55\|940</wrap>but we do seem to be relatively in an early part of the book <wrap hide>851\|01:09:55\|940\|01:10:03\|260</wrap>which seems to have been written relatively in the mid-30s. <wrap hide>852\|01:10:04\|600\|01:10:10\|540</wrap>And so this influence apparently did not really end, <wrap hide>853\|01:10:10\|540\|01:10:13\|600</wrap>unless he's speaking of the influence as it manifests <wrap hide>854\|01:10:14\|800\|01:10:19\|720</wrap>on the inner planes and then gradually has to work out and through <wrap hide>855\|01:10:21\|200\|01:10:22\|600</wrap>the outer planes. <wrap hide>856\|01:10:25\|300\|01:10:27\|480</wrap>Let's see what further may be said here, <wrap hide>857\|01:10:27\|480\|01:10:32\|000</wrap>because certainly, you know, great aspects of the war were under— <wrap hide>858\|01:10:33\|800\|01:10:35\|820</wrap>were in expression <wrap hide>859\|01:10:35\|820\|01:10:41\|380</wrap>during the early 40s. And even up to the winter of 1942 in the north, <wrap hide>860\|01:10:41\|380\|01:10:46\|980</wrap>it was not known which way humanity would go, or whether humanity would go down to defeat. <wrap hide>861\|01:10:46\|980\|01:10:49\|960</wrap>So certainly the Martian influence was very, very strong. <wrap hide>862\|01:10:49\|960\|01:10:54\|740</wrap>Later I think he talks about the power of Mars waning, <wrap hide>863\|01:10:54\|740\|01:10:59\|980</wrap>but that is towards the end of the war. So one wonders whether it was artificially somehow <wrap hide>864\|01:11:01\|720\|01:11:02\|240</wrap>prolonged. <wrap hide>865\|01:11:03\|300\|01:11:05\|000</wrap>Maybe D.K. was really hoping— <wrap hide>866\|01:11:06\|520\|01:11:08\|900</wrap>let's say this was written in the middle 30s— <wrap hide>867\|01:11:12\|100\|01:11:15\|280</wrap>19... well, 34, 35, 36, <wrap hide>868\|01:11:16\|860\|01:11:22\|020</wrap>going forward by a few years could have taken us to the end of the 30s, beginning of the 40s. <wrap hide>869\|01:11:22\|020\|01:11:26\|640</wrap>Maybe he was hoping that the next phase of the war would not precipitate. <wrap hide>870\|01:11:26\|640\|01:11:27\|960</wrap>It certainly was a possibility <wrap hide>871\|01:11:28\|560\|01:11:30\|620</wrap>that it need not have precipitated. <wrap hide>872\|01:11:30\|620\|01:11:33\|480</wrap>But enough men and women of good will, <wrap hide>873\|01:11:33\|480\|01:11:39\|520</wrap>we are told, could not be found to stem the tide of the war-like forces. <wrap hide>874\|01:11:40\|560\|01:11:42\|800</wrap>So we've had <wrap hide>875\|01:11:44\|700\|01:11:49\|440</wrap>Mars governing the physical body and personality. <wrap hide>876\|01:11:49\|440\|01:11:57\|800</wrap>We've had Mars governing sex and the blood. <wrap hide>877\|01:12:02\|360\|01:12:04\|160</wrap>Let's see here. <wrap hide>878\|01:12:09\|860\|01:12:12\|400</wrap>Yes, sex and the blood. <wrap hide>879\|01:12:12\|400\|01:12:18\|280</wrap>And now he comes to the third factor <wrap hide>880\|01:12:18\|280\|01:12:19\|700</wrap>which Mars governs. <wrap hide>881\|01:12:20\|680\|01:12:25\|860</wrap><wrap quote>Thirdly, Mars governs the senses, which are five in number.</wrap> <wrap hide>882\|01:12:25\|860\|01:12:30\|060</wrap>He seems in a way to be moving up through the planes. <wrap hide>883\|01:12:32\|700\|01:12:38\|320</wrap>There will be some connection of Mars with the lower concrete mind, <wrap hide>884\|01:12:38\|320\|01:12:40\|220</wrap>whose number is five as well. <wrap hide>885\|01:12:41\|420\|01:12:48\|420</wrap>So Mars is actually the acuity of the way we interact with our environment. <wrap hide>886\|01:12:48\|760\|01:12:50\|400</wrap>The senses, five in number— <wrap hide>887\|01:12:50\|400\|01:12:56\|720</wrap>number five, I think, does relate to a higher aspect of Mars. <wrap hide>888\|01:12:56\|720\|01:13:01\|620</wrap>I've suspected that one of the monadic rays of Mars is the fifth. <wrap hide>889\|01:13:02\|380\|01:13:09\|760</wrap>This would correlate pretty well with Saul—Paul—as under the Martian influence, <wrap hide>890\|01:13:09\|760\|01:13:12\|580</wrap>because if he had a sixth ray soul <wrap hide>891\|01:13:13\|720\|01:13:17\|500</wrap>for a while, at least, giving way to the second ray, <wrap hide>892\|01:13:17\|500\|01:13:23\|540</wrap>his particular influence at the moment is very much under the fifth ray, <wrap hide>893\|01:13:24\|460\|01:13:26\|780</wrap>being the fifth ray Chohan. <wrap hide>894\|01:13:26\|780\|01:13:30\|540</wrap>Mars is interestingly a rather orange planet, <wrap hide>895\|01:13:31\|400\|01:13:33\|700</wrap>not just a red planet, but red-orange, <wrap hide>896\|01:13:34\|500\|01:13:35\|860</wrap>correlating with the fifth ray, <wrap hide>897\|01:13:35\|860\|01:13:37\|320</wrap>orange being the color of the fifth ray. <wrap hide>898\|01:13:37\|320\|01:13:41\|600</wrap>Interestingly enough, some of the color presented by Venus <wrap hide>899\|01:13:42\|280\|01:13:44\|180</wrap>seems to be orange as well, <wrap hide>900\|01:13:44\|180\|01:13:45\|580</wrap>indicating exteriorly, <wrap hide>901\|01:13:45\|580\|01:13:50\|920</wrap>perhaps, the fifth ray nature of that planet. <wrap hide>902\|01:13:52\|800\|01:13:55\|500</wrap>So Mars is involved with the concrete mind. <wrap hide>903\|01:13:55\|500\|01:13:58\|300</wrap><wrap quote>These senses are the basis of all human knowledge, <wrap hide>904\|01:13:58\|300\|01:14:01\|600</wrap>presumably the knowledge of the concrete mind, <wrap hide>905\|01:14:02\|960\|01:14:07\|900</wrap>where that which is tangible and objective is concerned or inferred.</wrap> <wrap hide>906\|01:14:07\|900\|01:14:10\|660</wrap>So Mars is not a subtle planet. <wrap hide>907\|01:14:11\|620\|01:14:14\|560</wrap>It deals with objectivity and tangibility <wrap hide>908\|01:14:14\|560\|01:14:19\|880</wrap>and is very much involved in promoting the materialistic perspective. <wrap hide>909\|01:14:20\|580\|01:14:23\|280</wrap>But of course, Martian science must give way <wrap hide>910\|01:14:24\|400\|01:14:27\|140</wrap>to a more subtle science. <wrap hide>911\|01:14:27\|140\|01:14:32\|680</wrap>ruled perhaps by, let us call it, the occult mind of Uranus, <wrap hide>912\|01:14:34\|020\|01:14:43\|300</wrap>and the higher aspects of Mercury and Neptune's sensitivity, and so forth. <wrap hide>913\|01:14:44\|260\|01:14:47\|040</wrap>So the five senses... and it's kind of interesting: <wrap hide>914\|01:14:47\|040\|01:14:50\|140</wrap>people with a strong Mars <wrap hide>915\|01:14:51\|460\|01:14:54\|560</wrap>sometimes have a quite prominent lower brow <wrap hide>916\|01:14:55\|340\|01:14:57\|440</wrap>from the physiognomic perspective, <wrap hide>917\|01:14:58\|380\|01:15:01\|380</wrap>and that may indicate their engagement <wrap hide>918\|01:15:02\|800\|01:15:05\|180</wrap>with that which the senses reveal— <wrap hide>919\|01:15:05\|180\|01:15:07\|520</wrap>their engagement with objectivity. <wrap hide>920\|01:15:08\|940\|01:15:12\|200</wrap>It's not so much the higher forehead which is involved; <wrap hide>921\|01:15:12\|200\|01:15:14\|160</wrap>that's more under the realm of Jupiter. <wrap hide>922\|01:15:16\|020\|01:15:20\|440</wrap>The study of physiognomy in relation to the planets I think is very important, <wrap hide>923\|01:15:21\|080\|01:15:23\|200</wrap>and in relation to the zodiacal signs. <wrap hide>924\|01:15:23\|200\|01:15:27\|300</wrap>It's complex; there's much fusing and blending going on, <wrap hide>925\|01:15:27\|300\|01:15:32\|700</wrap>but perhaps the eye can become discerning enough <wrap hide>926\|01:15:33\|340\|01:15:36\|560</wrap>to detect these planetary and zodiacal influences <wrap hide>927\|01:15:37\|260\|01:15:40\|400</wrap>on that form which is the body, and especially the face, <wrap hide>928\|01:15:40\|400\|01:15:46\|740</wrap>as the more acute revealer of identity. <wrap hide>929\|01:15:48\|760\|01:15:51\|620</wrap><wrap quote>Mars therefore rules science. </wrap><wrap hide>930\|01:15:52\|480\|01:15:58\|040</wrap>And I do believe in the Gauquelin research <wrap hide>931\|01:15:58\|040\|01:16:04\|540</wrap>that it was not only Saturn that was found prominent in the charts of scientists, <wrap hide>932\|01:16:04\|540\|01:16:07\|080</wrap>but Mars as well. <wrap hide>933\|01:16:08\|860\|01:16:14\|220</wrap>Mars is this power to engage with the environment, <wrap hide>934\|01:16:14\|220\|01:16:16\|120</wrap>to investigate, to learn about it. <wrap hide>935\|01:16:16\|120\|01:16:24\|160</wrap>Of course, Pluto helps this tendency to engage and discover, <wrap hide>936\|01:16:24\|940\|01:16:26\|240</wrap>to go even deeper. <wrap hide>937\|01:16:26\|240\|01:16:29\|760</wrap>So Mars and Pluto are probing. <wrap hide>938\|01:16:30\|920\|01:16:35\|960</wrap>I think they make very good planets of surgery when together. <wrap hide>939\|01:16:37\|360\|01:16:39\|460</wrap>So Mars rules science. <wrap hide>940\|01:16:41\|180\|01:16:43\|900</wrap>Very interesting, because you might not think this to be the case. <wrap hide>941\|01:16:43\|900\|01:16:46\|760</wrap>You think, "Okay, here's Venus, the planet of the fifth ray. <wrap hide>942\|01:16:46\|760\|01:16:48\|100</wrap>Why doesn't Venus rule science?" <wrap hide>943\|01:16:48\|340\|01:16:54\|160</wrap>But from a practical perspective, when we look at how people actually behave <wrap hide>944\|01:16:55\|100\|01:16:56\|580</wrap>under the influence of these planets, <wrap hide>945\|01:16:56\|580\|01:17:02\|960</wrap>we see that Venus is much more involved with the arts <wrap hide>946\|01:17:04\|080\|01:17:05\|900</wrap>than with science per se. <wrap hide>947\|01:17:07\|080\|01:17:09\|000</wrap>The statistical work has to be done. <wrap hide>948\|01:17:09\|000\|01:17:12\|080</wrap>I think it is being done by some. <wrap hide>949\|01:17:13\|820\|01:17:16\|380</wrap>Gauquelin started his work, <wrap hide>950\|01:17:17\|820\|01:17:20\|640</wrap>but there's much, much more that can be done. <wrap hide>951\|01:17:21\|360\|01:17:27\|120</wrap>Then astrology will prove itself statistically, mathematically, <wrap hide>952\|01:17:28\|120\|01:17:30\|280</wrap>and the skepticism surrounding it <wrap hide>953\|01:17:30\|280\|01:17:35\|280</wrap>and the imputation of mindless mysticism surrounding it <wrap hide>954\|01:17:35\|280\|01:17:40\|640</wrap>will be lifted, dissipated. <wrap hide>955\|01:17:41\|300\|01:17:45\|340</wrap>So Mars therefore rules science, <wrap quote>and hence the reason in this present era <wrap hide>956\|01:17:46\|100\|01:17:47\|420</wrap>(however long that is) <wrap hide>957\|01:17:48\|100\|01:17:53\|360</wrap>for the fundamental but not permanent materiality of science.</wrap> <wrap hide>958\|01:17:53\|360\|01:17:57\|740</wrap>So, you know, science has been quite material for hundreds of years. <wrap hide>959\|01:17:58\|700\|01:18:01\|760</wrap>Alchemy was given up; astrology was given up, <wrap hide>960\|01:18:01\|760\|01:18:06\|980</wrap>no longer considered worthy of the universities. <wrap hide>961\|01:18:07\|920\|01:18:14\|840</wrap>And for all through the 1600s, 17[00s], 18[00s], 1900s, <wrap hide>962\|01:18:15\|580\|01:18:19\|800</wrap>scientific pursuits have been largely of a material nature, <wrap hide>963\|01:18:19\|800\|01:18:21\|560</wrap>and necessarily so, I suppose, <wrap hide>964\|01:18:21\|560\|01:18:24\|280</wrap>to give us a foundational understanding <wrap hide>965\|01:18:25\|340\|01:18:27\|680</wrap>of the densest physical levels. <wrap hide>966\|01:18:30\|220\|01:18:31\|100</wrap>Interesting: <wrap hide>967\|01:18:31\|760\|01:18:34\|100</wrap>Mars and the materiality of science— <wrap hide>968\|01:18:34\|840\|01:18:36\|840</wrap><wrap quote>materiality which is rapidly lessening <wrap hide>1\|00:00:02\|480\|00:00:10\|320</wrap>as Mars nears the end of its present cycle of influence.</wrap> <wrap hide>970\|01:18:45\|140\|01:18:49\|340</wrap>Okay, just have to find where that went. <wrap hide>971\|01:18:49\|340\|01:18:52\|640</wrap>The end of its present cycle of influence. <wrap hide>972\|01:18:52\|640\|01:18:54\|620</wrap>Later there's some discussion <wrap hide>973\|01:18:54\|620\|01:18:58\|700</wrap>about the waning of its power, at least on the astral plane. <wrap hide>974\|01:19:01\|020\|01:19:04\|080</wrap>Today I won't say that scientists are equally divided <wrap hide>975\|01:19:04\|740\|01:19:07\|400</wrap>between material and subtle approaches, <wrap hide>976\|01:19:07\|400\|01:19:10\|240</wrap>but if we think of the last hundred years, <wrap hide>977\|01:19:10\|960\|01:19:13\|440</wrap>science has been taken into a realm, <wrap hide>978\|01:19:14\|300\|01:19:16\|620</wrap>both in medicine and in physics, <wrap hide>979\|01:19:16\|620\|01:19:19\|200</wrap>which is decidedly non-material. <wrap hide>980\|01:19:19\|860\|01:19:22\|300</wrap>It is material in a more fundamental sense: <wrap hide>981\|01:19:22\|300\|01:19:26\|060</wrap>the very constituents of matter are being understood, <wrap hide>982\|01:19:26\|060\|01:19:30\|540</wrap>but these constituents are seen to be energy constituents <wrap hide>983\|01:19:30\|800\|01:19:35\|460</wrap>and not illusorily solid, as it were. <wrap hide>984\|01:19:36\|140\|01:19:39\|920</wrap>Matter has become appreciated as energy. <wrap hide>985\|01:19:40\|880\|01:19:43\|120</wrap>So this is a tremendous revelation, <wrap hide>986\|01:19:44\|140\|01:19:48\|300</wrap>proven in a way through the atomic bomb. <wrap hide>987\|01:19:48\|300\|01:19:54\|620</wrap>but certainly presented to us <wrap hide>988\|01:19:54\|620\|01:19:59\|700</wrap>in the speculation of Einstein and later the quantum physicists. <wrap hide>989\|01:20:02\|060\|01:20:06\|000</wrap>So a new approach to science is on its way, <wrap hide>990\|01:20:06\|740\|01:20:09\|720</wrap>and I would say in a way it's very Uranian. <wrap hide>991\|01:20:10\|840\|01:20:15\|720</wrap>Although at one point D.K. also associates Uranus with more orthodox science, <wrap hide>992\|01:20:15\|720\|01:20:17\|920</wrap>but certainly the higher potentials of Uranus <wrap hide>993\|01:20:17\|920\|01:20:21\|660</wrap>to investigate the subtle, the waves, the invisible <wrap hide>994\|01:20:21\|660\|01:20:24\|660</wrap>as real, is prominent. <wrap hide>995\|01:20:26\|060\|01:20:33\|000</wrap>So material science is giving way to the study of the etheric vehicle. <wrap hide>996\|01:20:33\|570\|01:20:36\|970</wrap>Mars doesn't have much to do with the etheric vehicle at all. <wrap hide>997\|01:20:37\|320\|01:20:43\|440</wrap>Other planets, Mercury, Uranus, ruling Aquarius and Gemini, <wrap hide>998\|01:20:43\|440\|01:20:47\|930</wrap>are far more etheric in their associations. <wrap hide>999\|01:20:49\|250\|01:20:53\|410</wrap><wrap quote>Already the trend of modern science, and it's written in the 30s, <wrap hide>1000\|01:20:53\|410\|01:20:56\|230</wrap>is shifting into the realm of the intangible <wrap hide>1001\|01:20:56\|890\|01:20:59\|290</wrap>and into the world of the non-material.</wrap> <wrap hide>1002\|01:20:59\|290\|01:21:04\|410</wrap>At least you can no longer perceive the objects of study <wrap hide>1003\|01:21:05\|330\|01:21:08\|210</wrap>of the science of that period and of the present period <wrap hide>1004\|01:21:08\|930\|01:21:10\|370</wrap>with the ordinary senses. <wrap hide>1005\|01:21:10\|370\|01:21:12\|770</wrap>The senses have to be greatly extended. <wrap hide>1006\|01:21:12\|770\|01:21:18\|030</wrap>One thinks about now, 80 years later, <wrap hide>1007\|01:21:18\|850\|01:21:22\|150</wrap>for the search for the God particle. <wrap hide>1008\|01:21:23\|410\|01:21:29\|290</wrap>Particle physics certainly has taken us into the realm of the intangible <wrap hide>1009\|01:21:29\|850\|01:21:32\|630</wrap>and into the world of the non-material, <wrap hide>1010\|01:21:32\|630\|01:21:36\|190</wrap>where matter and energy are understood as equivalent. <wrap hide>1011\|01:21:36\|850\|01:21:41\|330</wrap>This is a tremendous releasing formula: <wrap hide>1012\|01:21:41\|330\|01:21:43\|330</wrap>that matter is energy, energy is matter. <wrap hide>1013\|01:21:43\|330\|01:21:46\|550</wrap>It opens the door to magic and the possibility of <wrap hide>1014\|01:21:47\|710\|01:21:50\|070</wrap>precipitation from subtler realms into dense <wrap hide>1015\|01:21:50\|070\|01:21:53\|930</wrap>and dematerialization from dense realms into subtle. <wrap hide>1016\|01:21:56\|470\|01:22:02\|030</wrap>So we see that D.K.'s indications are correct, <wrap hide>1017\|01:22:03\|390\|01:22:07\|350</wrap>even though let us say from 1950 to the year 2000 <wrap hide>1018\|01:22:07\|350\|01:22:10\|390</wrap>the emphasis upon the 5th ray ashram <wrap hide>1019\|01:22:12\|310\|01:22:13\|910</wrap>was lessened <wrap hide>1020\|01:22:13\|910\|01:22:18\|430</wrap>for the sake of humanity lest its knowledge of these things <wrap hide>1021\|01:22:18\|430\|01:22:23\|590</wrap>run too far ahead of its social and moral development. <wrap hide>1022\|01:22:24\|570\|01:22:29\|630</wrap><wrap quote>Hence also the fact that the opposition to occultism is waning.</wrap> <wrap hide>1023\|01:22:30\|410\|01:22:32\|890</wrap>I guess Mars and the Martian religions <wrap hide>1024\|01:22:32\|890\|01:22:36\|570</wrap>put up a very great opposition to occultism <wrap hide>1025\|01:22:36\|990\|01:22:39\|770</wrap>because it challenges the familiar world. <wrap hide>1026\|01:22:39\|770\|01:22:45\|030</wrap>We see many vestigial 6th ray types <wrap hide>1027\|01:22:45\|030\|01:22:50\|010</wrap>living in a type of consciousness which can only be described as material, <wrap hide>1028\|01:22:50\|010\|01:22:53\|850</wrap>and even when it's spiritual, it's materially spiritual. <wrap hide>1029\|01:22:56\|010\|01:22:57\|030</wrap>Spiritual materialism. <wrap hide>1030\|01:22:58\|670\|01:23:02\|590</wrap>So the heaven as conceived, the other world as conceived, <wrap hide>1031\|01:23:02\|590\|01:23:04\|070</wrap>is still very material. <wrap hide>1032\|01:23:04\|850\|01:23:08\|110</wrap>But anyway, that is not the occult perspective, <wrap hide>1033\|01:23:09\|310\|01:23:11\|830</wrap>nor is it the mystical perspective. <wrap hide>1034\|01:23:11\|830\|01:23:15\|490</wrap>And the opposition to occultism is waning. <wrap hide>1035\|01:23:15\|490\|01:23:16\|970</wrap>It's a Martian opposition, <wrap hide>1036\|01:23:16\|970\|01:23:20\|590</wrap><wrap quote>and its day of power is approaching.</wrap> <wrap hide>1037\|01:23:21\|410\|01:23:28\|490</wrap>Did H.P.B. tell us by the end of the 21st century – <wrap hide>1038\|01:23:28\|490\|01:23:32\|530</wrap>she put it in terms which are more difficult to understand, <wrap hide>1039\|01:23:32\|530\|01:23:37\|770</wrap>but I believe that what we call occultism must win the day <wrap hide>1040\|01:23:37\|770\|01:23:39\|290</wrap>by the end of the 21st century. <wrap hide>1041\|01:23:39\|290\|01:23:42\|790</wrap>That gives us another 90 years of work, <wrap hide>1042\|01:23:42\|790\|01:23:45\|590</wrap>and the speed with which things are occurring – <wrap hide>1043\|01:23:46\|690\|01:23:47\|890</wrap>revelations are occurring – <wrap hide>1044\|01:23:47\|890\|01:23:50\|910</wrap>it doesn't seem impossible at all. <wrap hide>1045\|01:23:52\|650\|01:23:56\|670</wrap><wrap quote>These subtler senses will supersede the physical senses <wrap hide>1046\|01:23:56\|670\|01:24:02\|170</wrap>over which Mars has so long had a successful control.</wrap> <wrap hide>1047\|01:24:02\|650\|01:24:04\|230</wrap>How very interesting, <wrap hide>1048\|01:24:04\|630\|01:24:07\|250</wrap>its association with the lower 5th ray. <wrap hide>1049\|01:24:08\|430\|01:24:13\|230</wrap>Just the way in a sense we can say that Venus is associated <wrap hide>1050\|01:24:13\|850\|01:24:16\|050</wrap>with the higher 5th ray, <wrap hide>1051\|01:24:16\|050\|01:24:18\|510</wrap>and also Uranus is there as well and Mercury as well. <wrap hide>1052\|01:24:18\|510\|01:24:20\|910</wrap>They all have I think 5th ray components. <wrap hide>1053\|01:24:22\|090\|01:24:27\|410</wrap>So these subtler senses will supersede the physical senses. <wrap hide>1054\|01:24:27\|410\|01:24:29\|690</wrap>Already with Kirlian photography we see this, <wrap hide>1055\|01:24:29\|690\|01:24:33\|190</wrap>and with the study of auras we see this. <wrap hide>1056\|01:24:34\|210\|01:24:36\|870</wrap>In the field of medicine that's another frontier <wrap hide>1057\|01:24:36\|870\|01:24:42\|070</wrap>where subtle energy is emerging as a reality. <wrap hide>1058\|01:24:42\|070\|01:24:45\|950</wrap>Medicine and physics seem to be the two areas <wrap hide>1059\|01:24:46\|970\|01:24:50\|290</wrap>where pioneering research is occurring. <wrap hide>1060\|01:24:50\|290\|01:24:52\|150</wrap>although it's much more accepted generally <wrap hide>1061\|01:24:52\|550\|01:24:54\|050</wrap>in the area of nuclear physics. <wrap hide>1062\|01:24:54\|870\|01:24:57\|690</wrap>But increasingly, enlightened physicians <wrap hide>1063\|01:24:57\|690\|01:25:00\|450</wrap>are understanding the energy treatment. <wrap hide>1064\|01:25:00\|450\|01:25:04\|010</wrap>These subtler senses will supersede the physical senses <wrap hide>1065\|01:25:04\|010\|01:25:06\|850</wrap>over which Mars has so long had a successful control. <wrap hide>1066\|01:25:08\|090\|01:25:11\|190</wrap>It's something like the transition from <wrap hide>1067\|01:25:12\|810\|01:25:15\|610</wrap>Newtonian physics to Einsteinian physics. <wrap hide>1068\|01:25:17\|370\|01:25:20\|830</wrap>It's as if the type of physics which <wrap hide>1069\|01:25:20\|830\|01:25:26\|650</wrap>Newton brought to such a pinnacle of understanding <wrap hide>1070\|01:25:26\|650\|01:25:29\|070</wrap>is more Martian in nature. <wrap hide>1071\|01:25:30\|290\|01:25:33\|950</wrap>But the physics of the late 19th, early 20th, <wrap hide>1072\|01:25:33\|950\|01:25:35\|470</wrap>and now 21st century <wrap hide>1073\|01:25:36\|190\|01:25:38\|790</wrap>sees the waning of the Martian influence, <wrap hide>1074\|01:25:39\|550\|01:25:42\|350</wrap><wrap quote>and hence again the growth in the world today <wrap hide>1075\|01:25:42\|350\|01:25:43\|830</wrap>of the psychic senses.</wrap> <wrap hide>1076\|01:25:44\|730\|01:25:46\|910</wrap>This is under Neptune, isn't it? <wrap hide>1077\|01:25:47\|490\|01:25:49\|530</wrap><wrap quote>And the appearance on every hand of the subtler <wrap hide>1078\|01:25:50\|260\|01:25:53\|470</wrap>and more esoteric powers of clairvoyance <wrap hide>1079\|01:25:55\|330\|01:25:56\|570</wrap>and clairaudience.</wrap> <wrap hide>1080\|01:25:57\|340\|01:25:59\|310</wrap>So here and there they have been— <wrap hide>1081\|01:25:59\|310\|01:26:02\|970</wrap>here and there, accurate psychics. <wrap hide>1082\|01:26:04\|130\|01:26:07\|210</wrap>I guess Jeffrey Hudson is a good example <wrap hide>1083\|01:26:08\|050\|01:26:11\|890</wrap>of a level-headed, intelligent, respectable psychic, <wrap hide>1084\|01:26:11\|890\|01:26:14\|530</wrap>and I'm sure there are many more <wrap hide>1085\|01:26:14\|850\|01:26:19\|030</wrap>working in psychic research under the fifth and seventh rays. <wrap hide>1086\|01:26:20\|150\|01:26:24\|390</wrap>But I think, using the general sensitivity of Neptune <wrap hide>1087\|01:26:24\|390\|01:26:29\|310</wrap>and in a way, Mars can be considered <wrap hide>1088\|01:26:29\|310\|01:26:30\|870</wrap>a kind of polar opposite of Neptune— <wrap hide>1089\|01:26:30\|870\|01:26:32\|830</wrap>Neptune, the planet of subtlety, <wrap hide>1090\|01:26:32\|970\|01:26:34\|250</wrap>the planet of water, of life, <wrap hide>1091\|01:26:35\|710\|01:26:38\|210</wrap>and Mars, the planet of objectivity, <wrap hide>1092\|01:26:40\|530\|01:26:47\|790</wrap>of blood and of matter and lower energy. <wrap hide>1093\|01:26:59\|070\|01:27:02\|830</wrap>So I would not at all be surprised to see <wrap hide>1094\|01:27:02\|970\|01:27:05\|570</wrap>scientists involved in psychic research <wrap hide>1095\|01:27:05\|570\|01:27:09\|350</wrap>having a strong Neptune in their chart. <wrap hide>1096\|01:27:10\|010\|01:27:13\|250</wrap>And of course, if they wish to correlate what is found <wrap hide>1097\|01:27:13\|250\|01:27:16\|550</wrap>with the conventional revelation of the senses, <wrap hide>1098\|01:27:16\|550\|01:27:18\|190</wrap>perhaps Mars is strong as well, <wrap hide>1099\|01:27:18\|190\|01:27:20\|310</wrap>and Saturn is very important. <wrap hide>1100\|01:27:22\|170\|01:27:25\|290</wrap>The blend of subtlety, Neptune, and <wrap hide>1101\|01:27:25\|790\|01:27:27\|610</wrap>the concrete nature, Saturn, Mars, <wrap hide>1102\|01:27:27\|610\|01:27:30\|150</wrap>is important for the corroboration <wrap hide>1103\|01:27:30\|150\|01:27:35\|610</wrap>of that which the subtle senses reveal. <wrap hide>1104\|01:27:36\|470\|01:27:39\|610</wrap>So <wrap quote>this development is inevitable <wrap hide>1105\|01:27:40\|370\|01:27:45\|010</wrap>as the influence of Scorpio and of Mars <wrap hide>1106\|01:27:46\|150\|01:27:48\|230</wrap>begins to lessen, <wrap hide>1107\|01:27:50\|770\|01:27:52\|830</wrap>as is the case today.</wrap> <wrap hide>1108\|01:27:52\|830\|01:27:56\|190</wrap>Now here is a statement which makes me think that <wrap hide>1109\|01:27:56\|190\|01:27:58\|730</wrap>some of what was written here <wrap hide>1110\|01:27:58\|730\|01:28:01\|090</wrap>has been interpolated from later writings. <wrap hide>1111\|01:28:02\|750\|01:28:06\|990</wrap>It doesn't say the year 1945 will see this influence <wrap hide>1112\|01:28:06\|990\|01:28:08\|430</wrap>almost completely vanish, <wrap hide>1113\|01:28:09\|830\|01:28:10\|550</wrap>but <wrap hide>1114\|01:28:14\|790\|01:28:16\|970</wrap>it seems to suggest <wrap hide>1115\|01:28:18\|690\|01:28:22\|570</wrap>that the writing has occurred after 1945. <wrap hide>1116\|01:28:23\|670\|01:28:26\|530</wrap>So I'm not sure how this was all put together, <wrap hide>1117\|01:28:26\|530\|01:28:29\|830</wrap>but the year 1945 saw this— <wrap hide>1118\|01:28:30\|610\|01:28:33\|030</wrap>I suppose cruder Martian influence— <wrap hide>1119\|01:28:33\|030\|01:28:34\|770</wrap>this influence almost completely vanished, <wrap hide>1120\|01:28:35\|610\|01:28:36\|830</wrap>particularly from the astral plane. <wrap hide>1121\|01:28:36\|830\|01:28:41\|070</wrap>I suppose people had no more desire to fight <wrap hide>1122\|01:28:41\|610\|01:28:43\|690</wrap>after 1945, and an era <wrap hide>1123\|01:28:44\|650\|01:28:47\|470</wrap>which was intended to see the building of the peace <wrap hide>1124\|01:28:47\|470\|01:28:48\|830</wrap>through the United Nations <wrap hide>1125\|01:28:49\|550\|01:28:50\|610</wrap>did supervene. <wrap hide>1126\|01:28:52\|910\|01:28:55\|190</wrap>So sometimes when we're looking at these books, <wrap hide>1127\|01:28:55\|190\|01:28:56\|250</wrap>even though we know <wrap hide>1128\|01:28:57\|110\|01:28:59\|250</wrap>when certain parts of them were written, <wrap hide>1129\|01:28:59\|250\|01:29:04\|190</wrap>other parts may have been interpolated from later periods. <wrap hide>1130\|01:29:04\|190\|01:29:07\|610</wrap>The book came out in terms of lessons, <wrap hide>1131\|01:29:07\|610\|01:29:11\|910</wrap>and maybe when these lessons were assembled <wrap hide>1132\|01:29:11\|910\|01:29:14\|430</wrap>and later published as books, <wrap hide>1133\|01:29:15\|270\|01:29:17\|250</wrap>a mixture was present. <wrap hide>1134\|01:29:18\|470\|01:29:20\|540</wrap>I suspect that Esoteric Astrology <wrap hide>1135\|01:29:20\|910\|01:29:24\|730</wrap>was not published as a book until the 1950s. <wrap hide>1136\|01:29:26\|350\|01:29:26\|990</wrap>Anyway, <wrap hide>1137\|01:29:32\|010\|01:29:34\|490</wrap>when D.K. then could be speaking <wrap hide>1138\|01:29:34\|490\|01:29:38\|210</wrap>of the period 1950, <wrap hide>1139\|01:29:38\|210\|01:29:40\|950</wrap>in which we would see the waning <wrap hide>1140\|01:29:41\|830\|01:29:43\|670</wrap>of the Martian influence— <wrap hide>1141\|01:29:43\|670\|01:29:48\|070</wrap>he said it would be within the next five years or so <wrap hide>1142\|01:29:48\|070\|01:29:49\|390</wrap>it would wane. <wrap hide>1143\|01:29:49\|390\|01:29:51\|830</wrap>and if he's writing around the year 1945, <wrap hide>1144\|01:29:51\|830\|01:29:57\|410</wrap>then it's understandable that he's talking about a time ahead. <wrap hide>1145\|01:29:59\|250\|01:30:04\|630</wrap>So a materiality lessening as Mars nears the end of its present <wrap hide>1146\|01:30:04\|630\|01:30:06\|910</wrap>cycle of influence. <wrap hide>1147\|01:30:16\|910\|01:30:21\|510</wrap>So <wrap quote>the year 1945 saw this influence almost entirely vanish, <wrap hide>1148\|01:30:21\|830\|01:30:23\|710</wrap>particularly from the astral plane.</wrap> <wrap hide>1149\|01:30:23\|710\|01:30:26\|330</wrap>There's still many, many wars going on, <wrap hide>1150\|01:30:26\|330\|01:30:27\|990</wrap>and sometimes astonishing to realize <wrap hide>1151\|01:30:28\|770\|01:30:32\|770</wrap>how many smaller wars have occurred during the 20th century. <wrap hide>1152\|01:30:34\|730\|01:30:37\|110</wrap>Indeed, a warring century. <wrap hide>1153\|01:30:38\|150\|01:30:41\|290</wrap>We sometimes think only in terms of the major wars, <wrap hide>1154\|01:30:43\|170\|01:30:46\|470</wrap>but many lesser wars have been occurring. <wrap hide>1155\|01:30:50\|310\|01:30:55\|730</wrap>So anyway, the ruling of the astral plane by Mars <wrap hide>1156\|01:30:55\|730\|01:30:59\|050</wrap>is very important because where there is the desire for fighting, <wrap hide>1157\|01:31:00\|010\|01:31:01\|810</wrap>it's far more serious <wrap hide>1158\|01:31:03\|230\|01:31:06\|930</wrap>than the working out upon the physical plane <wrap hide>1159\|01:31:07\|690\|01:31:09\|950</wrap>of occasional skirmishes. <wrap hide>1160\|01:31:10\|930\|01:31:12\|790</wrap>When the desire wanes <wrap hide>1161\|01:31:12\|790\|01:31:16\|450</wrap>and the force fighting upon the physical plane will also wane. <wrap hide>1162\|01:31:16\|450\|01:31:20\|030</wrap>But again, we almost see strangely, <wrap hide>1163\|01:31:21\|790\|01:31:25\|370</wrap>as Mars approached its closest position to the earth <wrap hide>1164\|01:31:25\|370\|01:31:26\|810</wrap>in many years— <wrap hide>1165\|01:31:26\|810\|01:31:31\|050</wrap>the closest in 70,000 years just recently, <wrap hide>1166\|01:31:32\|570\|01:31:35\|310</wrap>a couple three years ago, was it— <wrap hide>1167\|01:31:36\|150\|01:31:41\|330</wrap>there's again been the rising of the desire to fight, <wrap hide>1168\|01:31:41\|330\|01:31:44\|590</wrap>the kind of Armageddon consciousness <wrap hide>1169\|01:31:45\|410\|01:31:47\|850</wrap>and the desires associated with that. <wrap hide>1170\|01:31:48\|410\|01:31:51\|110</wrap>Some sixth-ray types seeking to bring this on <wrap hide>1171\|01:31:51\|110\|01:31:55\|070</wrap>because it promises the end of a limited world <wrap hide>1172\|01:31:55\|070\|01:31:59\|830</wrap>and the onset of a paradisiacal world, <wrap hide>1173\|01:32:00\|410\|01:32:01\|690</wrap>a heavenly world. <wrap hide>1174\|01:32:02\|450\|01:32:04\|590</wrap>And others because it promises <wrap hide>1175\|01:32:05\|410\|01:32:08\|630</wrap>the domination of their ideology over other ideologies. <wrap hide>1176\|01:32:08\|630\|01:32:14\|430</wrap>So again, the desire to fight has been rising. <wrap hide>1177\|01:32:15\|270\|01:32:19\|090</wrap>This is some 60 years later. <wrap hide>1178\|01:32:19\|710\|01:32:23\|870</wrap>So let us see when the Tibetan again writes <wrap hide>1179\|01:32:23\|870\|01:32:25\|970</wrap>how he describes this particular period <wrap hide>1180\|01:32:26\|530\|01:32:29\|150</wrap>in relation to the planet Mars. <wrap hide>1181\|01:32:30\|590\|01:32:33\|410</wrap><wrap quote>Astrologers would do well to remember that the influence <wrap hide>1182\|01:32:33\|410\|01:32:36\|690</wrap>of the constellation signs and planets <wrap hide>1183\|01:32:36\|690\|01:32:39\|710</wrap>works out upon three levels of awareness. </wrap><wrap hide>1184\|01:32:39\|710\|01:32:44\|170</wrap>This is one of those important, important hints: <wrap hide>1185\|01:32:45\|570\|01:32:47\|670</wrap><wrap quote>three descending levels, <wrap hide>1186\|01:32:47\|670\|01:32:53\|690</wrap>and are felt first of all upon the mental plane, <wrap hide>1187\|01:32:54\|770\|01:32:58\|130</wrap>then upon the astral plane, and finally upon the physical plane.</wrap> <wrap hide>1188\|01:33:00\|470\|01:33:03\|490</wrap>Well, I think there are certain descending influences <wrap hide>1189\|01:33:03\|490\|01:33:07\|550</wrap>which will continue to work out on the physical plane <wrap hide>1190\|01:33:07\|550\|01:33:11\|310</wrap>even though a keen desire for their working out <wrap hide>1191\|01:33:11\|310\|01:33:13\|170</wrap>is no longer sustaining them. <wrap hide>1192\|01:33:14\|170\|01:33:17\|330</wrap>But where the astral plane, at least in some <wrap hide>1193\|01:33:17\|330\|01:33:20\|110</wrap>is becoming re-energized for a great battle, <wrap hide>1194\|01:33:21\|310\|01:33:26\|880</wrap>then we can only hope that the fading out of the six-ray cycle <wrap hide>1195\|01:33:28\|610\|01:33:33\|410</wrap>somehow neutralizes the possibility of this desire for battle <wrap hide>1196\|01:33:34\|710\|01:33:36\|850</wrap>precipitating upon the physical plane. <wrap hide>1197\|01:33:38\|510\|01:33:40\|690</wrap>There are so many intricate cycles. <wrap hide>1198\|01:33:41\|230\|01:33:44\|230</wrap>D.K. speaks of cycles of which we can have no knowledge, <wrap hide>1199\|01:33:44\|750\|01:33:48\|450</wrap>and he gives their starting points as years <wrap hide>1200\|01:33:49\|210\|01:33:53\|510</wrap>which we might never think of as starting points. <wrap hide>1201\|01:33:54\|190\|01:33:58\|070</wrap>So there are greater and lesser cycles, and about them we know very little. <wrap hide>1202\|01:33:59\|070\|01:34:00\|490</wrap>But we must know more. <wrap hide>1203\|01:34:02\|890\|01:34:07\|190</wrap>And when all knowledge is achieved on the third level of the atmic plane, <wrap hide>1204\|01:34:07\|190\|01:34:09\|050</wrap>presumably by a master, <wrap hide>1205\|01:34:10\|830\|01:34:13\|870</wrap>then this type of knowledge of cycles will be ours. <wrap hide>1206\|01:34:13\|870\|01:34:18\|610</wrap>Right now we have to piece this knowledge together as best we can. <wrap hide>1207\|01:34:19\|870\|01:34:21\|970</wrap>Some have done a good job with this, <wrap hide>1208\|01:34:22\|570\|01:34:29\|570</wrap>taking the hints that are given and discerning some cyclic truth. <wrap hide>1209\|01:34:30\|490\|01:34:33\|530</wrap>I think Stephen Pugh has done a good job with this, <wrap hide>1210\|01:34:34\|650\|01:34:38\|550</wrap>piecing together the probable ray cycles, <wrap hide>1211\|01:34:38\|550\|01:34:40\|930</wrap>but there's still much more, <wrap hide>1212\|01:34:41\|570\|01:34:45\|270</wrap>with cycles and sub-cycles and sub-sub-cycles and so forth, <wrap hide>1213\|01:34:45\|270\|01:34:46\|990</wrap>which are indeed relevant. <wrap hide>1214\|01:34:49\|510\|01:34:53\|390</wrap>OK, <wrap quote>but it is with this last plane,</wrap> namely the physical plane, <wrap hide>1215\|01:34:53\|390\|01:34:55\|930</wrap><wrap quote>that the astrologers are primarily concerned,</wrap> <wrap hide>1216\|01:34:55\|930\|01:34:58\|990</wrap>speaking of very exoteric astrologers, <wrap hide>1217\|01:34:58\|990\|01:35:05\|890</wrap>because they're working very much in the realm of effects. <wrap hide>1218\|01:35:09\|110\|01:35:13\|150</wrap>So they are <wrap quote>emphasizing happenings and events, <wrap hide>1219\|01:35:14\|070\|01:35:16\|210</wrap>and not their conditioning causes.</wrap> <wrap hide>1220\|01:35:16\|210\|01:35:21\|170</wrap>Well, that's one of the ways in which esoteric astrology <wrap hide>1221\|01:35:21\|170\|01:35:26\|230</wrap>will decrease our ignorance in this area. <wrap hide>1222\|01:35:26\|230\|01:35:31\|670</wrap>It will emphasize conditioning causes which inevitably work out, <wrap hide>1223\|01:35:31\|670\|01:35:36\|150</wrap>and then attention will be placed upon dealing with the causes <wrap hide>1224\|01:35:36\|150\|01:35:39\|690</wrap>and not simply with the effects. <wrap hide>1225\|01:35:39\|690\|01:35:43\|310</wrap>And in that way, we shall become much more effective <wrap hide>1226\|01:35:43\|930\|01:35:47\|970</wrap>in changing and transforming those conditions <wrap hide>1227\|01:35:47\|970\|01:35:50\|610</wrap>which must be changed and transformed. <wrap hide>1228\|01:35:50\|930\|01:35:54\|110</wrap>At present, the case says <wrap quote>astrology deals with effects <wrap hide>1229\|01:35:54\|110\|01:35:57\|350</wrap>and not with that which is causing them.</wrap> <wrap hide>1230\|01:35:57\|350\|01:36:00\|270</wrap>But I think those of us who have studied esoteric astrology— <wrap hide>1231\|01:36:00\|950\|01:36:07\|870</wrap>we do realize that we are shifting our understanding <wrap hide>1232\|01:36:07\|870\|01:36:10\|030</wrap>into the world of causes. <wrap hide>1233\|01:36:12\|510\|01:36:15\|570</wrap><wrap quote>There is much confusion over this matter, <wrap hide>1234\|01:36:15\|570\|01:36:20\|250</wrap>and the horoscopes of the three levels are often much distorted.</wrap> <wrap hide>1235\|01:36:22\|070\|01:36:26\|750</wrap>And this must have been very new information at the time it was given. <wrap hide>1236\|01:36:28\|050\|01:36:32\|310</wrap><wrap quote>A horoscope which could be interpreted purely upon the mental plane <wrap hide>1237\|01:36:32\|310\|01:36:35\|590</wrap>is given a physical interpretation, and thus happenings <wrap hide>1238\|01:36:36\|030\|01:36:40\|630</wrap>which are entirely mental are portrayed as physical occurrences.</wrap> <wrap hide>1239\|01:36:40\|890\|01:36:44\|090</wrap>You kind of wonder how these horoscopes can be set up. <wrap hide>1240\|01:36:44\|090\|01:36:47\|430</wrap>Do we leave the horoscope as it is? <wrap hide>1241\|01:36:47\|430\|01:36:52\|710</wrap>Do we put a particular planet which rules a particular plane <wrap hide>1242\|01:36:53\|350\|01:36:55\|490</wrap>on the ascendant of the horoscope <wrap hide>1243\|01:36:56\|090\|01:37:00\|510</wrap>and thus create a house configuration <wrap hide>1244\|01:37:00\|510\|01:37:07\|050</wrap>which more truly represents activity upon the particular plane <wrap hide>1245\|01:37:07\|050\|01:37:09\|670</wrap>associated with that planet? <wrap hide>1246\|01:37:09\|670\|01:37:12\|030</wrap>There is much experimentation which can be done, <wrap hide>1247\|01:37:12\|030\|01:37:17\|870</wrap>but of course, the realm of imagination or fancy enters, <wrap hide>1248\|01:37:17\|870\|01:37:21\|370</wrap>so we have to make sure that our multiple speculations <wrap hide>1249\|01:37:21\|630\|01:37:24\|230</wrap>are actually correlated with facts <wrap hide>1250\|01:37:24\|930\|01:37:29\|130</wrap>and not arbitrarily imposed upon facts, <wrap hide>1251\|01:37:30\|070\|01:37:34\|490</wrap>skewing the interpretation—the correct interpretation of those facts. <wrap hide>1252\|01:37:35\|730\|01:37:38\|710</wrap>So thus, happenings which are entirely mental <wrap hide>1253\|01:37:38\|710\|01:37:40\|410</wrap>are portrayed as physical occurrences. <wrap hide>1254\|01:37:40\|410\|01:37:42\|750</wrap>And when we're interpreting horoscopes, <wrap hide>1255\|01:37:43\|230\|01:37:47\|310</wrap>we have to speak of changes in mind, changes in the emotional nature, <wrap hide>1256\|01:37:47\|310\|01:37:51\|710</wrap>finally changes in the realm of physical plane effects. <wrap hide>1257\|01:37:52\|690\|01:37:56\|790</wrap><wrap quote>A clue to this triple interpretation which astrology must eventually recognize <wrap hide>1258\|01:37:58\|090\|01:38:04\|730</wrap>can be found in the relation of the orthodox, the esoteric, and hierarchical planets <wrap hide>1259\|01:38:05\|310\|01:38:09\|310</wrap>and the rays of which they are the expression.</wrap> <wrap hide>1260\|01:38:09\|310\|01:38:14\|490</wrap>And I do know that some astrologers have taken this sentence <wrap hide>1261\|01:38:15\|890\|01:38:23\|670</wrap>and have made a correlation of orthodox planets <wrap hide>1262\|01:38:24\|390\|01:38:27\|230</wrap>with the realm of physical events, <wrap hide>1263\|01:38:27\|230\|01:38:30\|190</wrap>of esoteric planets with emotional changes, <wrap hide>1264\|01:38:30\|190\|01:38:37\|090</wrap>and of hierarchical planets and rulers <wrap hide>1265\|01:38:37\|090\|01:38:39\|690</wrap>with changes upon the mental plane. <wrap hide>1266\|01:38:41\|510\|01:38:44\|930</wrap>We can see the extent to which this actually does work out. <wrap hide>1267\|01:38:44\|930\|01:38:48\|970</wrap>Of course, you know, in general, esoteric rulers <wrap hide>1268\|01:38:50\|830\|01:38:54\|470</wrap>are employed when a degree of soul expression <wrap hide>1269\|01:38:55\|450\|01:38:57\|030</wrap>is coming into the life, <wrap hide>1270\|01:38:57\|030\|01:39:00\|010</wrap>and hierarchical rulers are employed when <wrap hide>1271\|01:39:01\|890\|01:39:04\|610</wrap>the expression of the spirit, the monad, <wrap hide>1272\|01:39:05\|450\|01:39:07\|590</wrap>is becoming somewhat real. <wrap hide>1273\|01:39:07\|590\|01:39:10\|630</wrap>Of course, the monad reflects itself in the mind. <wrap hide>1274\|01:39:11\|570\|01:39:13\|870</wrap>The monadic ray reflects itself in the mind. <wrap hide>1275\|01:39:13\|870\|01:39:15\|850</wrap>The soul ray reflects itself in the astral body. <wrap hide>1276\|01:39:15\|850\|01:39:20\|790</wrap>And the personality ray reflects itself in the physical body. <wrap hide>1277\|01:39:20\|790\|01:39:26\|710</wrap>So you can see this lesser subset of mind, emotions, and body <wrap hide>1278\|01:39:26\|710\|01:39:30\|450</wrap>as correlated with monad, soul, and personality. <wrap hide>1279\|01:39:30\|450\|01:39:35\|710</wrap>So there's probably a theoretical justification <wrap hide>1280\|01:39:36\|530\|01:39:41\|350</wrap>for doing as these often quite accomplished astrologers do. <wrap hide>1281\|01:39:42\|230\|01:39:47\|830</wrap>The question is, how much of the content of mind, emotions, and body <wrap hide>1282\|01:39:47\|830\|01:39:52\|130</wrap>are actually revealed by applying these three sets of rulerships <wrap hide>1283\|01:39:52\|130\|01:39:53\|470</wrap>as presently applied? <wrap hide>1284\|01:39:54\|350\|01:39:59\|570</wrap>This is something which has to be laboriously established <wrap hide>1285\|01:40:00\|450\|01:40:05\|490</wrap>and has to remain a matter of theoretical interest. <wrap hide>1286\|01:40:39\|830\|01:40:41\|230</wrap>Hmm. <wrap hide>1287\|01:41:36\|870\|01:41:44\|310</wrap>Okay, continuing here. There may have been a little technical hiatus. <wrap hide>1288\|01:41:47\|830\|01:41:59\|290</wrap>So we have this method of looking at the three levels of planets related to the three lower <wrap hide>1289\|01:41:59\|290\|01:42:04\|890</wrap>vehicles, as each one of these vehicles represents one of the periodical vehicles. <wrap hide>1290\|01:42:07\|870\|01:42:15\|170</wrap>The physical body represents the personality as a periodical vehicle, the astral body represents <wrap hide>1291\|01:42:15\|170\|01:42:22\|910</wrap>the soul, causal body as a periodical vehicle, and then the mind represents the monad as <wrap hide>1292\|01:42:22\|910\|01:42:24\|450</wrap>a periodical vehicle. <wrap hide>1293\|01:42:25\|450\|01:42:30\|570</wrap>So, D.K. is impressing upon us the importance of Scorpio and Mars. <wrap hide>1294\|01:42:32\|180\|01:42:38\|310</wrap>Not necessarily the most pleasant energies in the Lebron sense of pleasantness, of harmony <wrap hide>1295\|01:42:38\|310\|01:42:42\|830</wrap>and beauty in the normal sense. <wrap hide>1296\|01:42:44\|880\|01:42:51\|390</wrap>He says <wrap quote>you will see from this how important are the functions of Scorpio and Mars upon <wrap hide>1297\|01:42:51\|390\|01:42:59\|850</wrap>our planet at this time and you will note also how brief a time remains in which humanity <wrap hide>1298\|01:42:59\|850\|01:43:05\|290</wrap>can rightly or wrongly handle its tests.</wrap> <wrap hide>1299\|01:43:06\|530\|01:43:09\|370</wrap>Now you know, when was this written? <wrap hide>1300\|01:43:11\|610\|01:43:20\|350</wrap>If it was written in 1945, then D.K. may be looking toward the future which includes even our <wrap hide>1301\|01:43:20\|350\|01:43:29\|230</wrap>present era, saying that we are within that brief time wherein these tests must be handled. <wrap hide>1302\|01:43:29\|310\|01:43:39\|410</wrap>If it was written earlier, say in the '30s, then the question of the impending Second <wrap hide>1303\|01:43:39\|410\|01:43:41\|970</wrap>World War could have been considered. <wrap hide>1304\|01:43:44\|410\|01:43:55\|530</wrap>He says <wrap quote>you will realize also the pressure under which the Hierarchy at this time struggles <wrap hide>1305\|01:43:56\|970\|01:44:00\|150</wrap>now that Martian energy is expressing itself upon the astral plane.</wrap> <wrap hide>1306\|01:44:00\|390\|01:44:08\|750</wrap>Well, see, doesn't it almost look as if this section was written before the preceding section <wrap hide>1307\|01:44:08\|750\|01:44:17\|630</wrap>which said the period of 1945 saw the highest expression of Mars, especially upon the astral <wrap hide>1308\|01:44:17\|630\|01:44:18\|070</wrap>plane? <wrap hide>1309\|01:44:20\|930\|01:44:23\|450</wrap>Let's see if we can... <wrap hide>1310\|01:44:23\|450\|01:44:30\|010</wrap>The year 1945 saw this influence almost completely vanish, and then down here where we're reading <wrap hide>1311\|01:44:31\|050\|01:44:45\|710</wrap>it, we see that in fact he's telling us something about now that the Martian energy is expressing <wrap hide>1312\|01:44:45\|710\|01:44:47\|090</wrap>itself upon the astral plane. <wrap hide>1313\|01:44:48\|460\|01:44:52\|850</wrap>So there's quite a difference between Martian energy almost completely vanishing in 1945 <wrap hide>1314\|01:44:53\|500\|01:44:58\|930</wrap>and the idea of Mars expressing itself strongly upon the astral plane, which suggests to me <wrap hide>1315\|01:44:58\|930\|01:45:06\|750</wrap>that the section we're now reading was written earlier than the section which preceded it. <wrap hide>1316\|01:45:10\|070\|01:45:16\|610</wrap>So humanity really had to handle its tests during the Second World War if this was written <wrap hide>1317\|01:45:16\|610\|01:45:25\|050</wrap>in the '30s, and humanity could have gone down and almost did, as we have been told in the <wrap hide>1318\|01:45:25\|050\|01:45:34\|650</wrap>early... before the sun moved northward in 1942, when the Hierarchy was packing its bags, <wrap hide>1319\|01:45:34\|870\|01:45:42\|490</wrap>so to speak, preparing to withdraw, believing that humanity would go down to defeat. <wrap hide>1320\|01:45:45\|370\|01:45:53\|750</wrap>But if this was written in the '30s, then apparently we have passed some tests and did not go down; <wrap hide>1321\|01:45:53\|750\|01:45:55\|870</wrap>at least then we did not go down. <wrap hide>1322\|01:45:57\|030\|01:46:00\|590</wrap>Hierarchy certainly struggles under pressures even though their sense of time is completely <wrap hide>1323\|01:46:00\|590\|01:46:06\|370</wrap>different than our own, and even though they realize in a way the illusory nature of time <wrap hide>1324\|01:46:06\|370\|01:46:11\|890</wrap>as commonly understood, they do have time pressures and speak now of how brief a time <wrap hide>1325\|01:46:11\|890\|01:46:12\|470</wrap>remains. <wrap hide>1326\|01:46:13\|450\|01:46:18\|990</wrap>This is a master speaking, and he's speaking of time as we usually conceive it. <wrap hide>1327\|01:46:19\|870\|01:46:25\|350</wrap>Time as an aspect of the world of illusion with which we have to deal. <wrap hide>1328\|01:46:27\|630\|01:46:30\|830</wrap>Did humanity rightly handle its tests? <wrap hide>1329\|01:46:31\|050\|01:46:34\|770</wrap>Did it sweep the devils out of the home? <wrap hide>1330\|01:46:35\|950\|01:46:38\|210</wrap>Later perhaps to find that more entered? <wrap hide>1331\|01:46:38\|490\|01:46:47\|470</wrap>Okay, but did it at least succeed in the second phase of the war? <wrap hide>1332\|01:46:48\|770\|01:46:50\|930</wrap>To clean house? <wrap hide>1333\|01:46:53\|270\|01:47:00\|070</wrap>Anyway, Hierarchy was extremely mobilized during the period of the Second World War <wrap hide>1334\|01:47:01\|490\|01:47:08\|510</wrap>and even in the Tibetan's communications with his students through Alice Bailey, we see <wrap hide>1335\|01:47:09\|150\|01:47:12\|550</wrap>the degree of his involvement, the degree of his preoccupation. <wrap hide>1336\|01:47:12\|550\|01:47:21\|350</wrap>At one point, two years passed between his communications to the group that he was cultivating. <wrap hide>1337\|01:47:22\|910\|01:47:30\|370</wrap>He must have been very busy indeed with the most pressing matters designed to help humanity <wrap hide>1338\|01:47:32\|730\|01:47:34\|590</wrap>succeed and not go down. <wrap hide>1339\|01:47:36\|410\|01:47:42\|110</wrap><wrap quote>Will the world Hercules lift this problem up into heaven and elevate the hydra of passion <wrap hide>1340\|01:47:42\|110\|01:47:54\|310</wrap>and hate, of greed and aggression, and of selfishness and ambition up into the region <wrap hide>1341\|01:47:54\|310\|01:47:54\|810</wrap>of the soul?</wrap> <wrap hide>1342\|01:47:54\|970\|01:47:59\|450</wrap>Will these lower tendencies be seen? <wrap hide>1343\|01:48:00\|370\|01:48:06\|650</wrap>Will they be neutralized by that neutral form of electricity, solar fire? <wrap hide>1344\|01:48:06\|650\|01:48:12\|470</wrap>Will they be overcome, lifted up into the region of the soul? <wrap hide>1345\|01:48:14\|290\|01:48:23\|390</wrap><wrap quote>Or will humanity, the disciple, the world Hercules, carry the whole matter down onto <wrap hide>1346\|01:48:23\|390\|01:48:29\|470</wrap>the physical plane with the inevitable corollary of world disaster, world war, and death?</wrap> <wrap hide>1347\|01:48:29\|670\|01:48:34\|830</wrap>Well, indeed, there was world disaster, world war, and death. <wrap hide>1348\|01:48:35\|330\|01:48:41\|030</wrap>In other words, it seems here that he's writing in such a sense that he's questioning whether <wrap hide>1349\|01:48:41\|030\|01:48:46\|930</wrap>there will be a second phase of the great war, which ended with an armistice in 1918. <wrap hide>1350\|01:48:48\|250\|01:48:51\|650</wrap>Would there be a second phase because they struggled mightily to prevent that second <wrap hide>1351\|01:48:51\|650\|01:48:52\|070</wrap>phase? <wrap hide>1352\|01:48:52\|430\|01:48:59\|710</wrap>And humanity, the world Hercules, did carry the whole matter down. <wrap hide>1353\|01:49:00\|330\|01:49:02\|070</wrap>And there was world disaster. <wrap hide>1354\|01:49:02\|230\|01:49:03\|230</wrap>There certainly was world war. <wrap hide>1355\|01:49:03\|230\|01:49:04\|490</wrap>We call it World War Two. <wrap hide>1356\|01:49:05\|150\|01:49:15\|270</wrap>There was a huge reaping, culling of human beings through the processes of death, millions <wrap hide>1357\|01:49:15\|270\|01:49:16\|150</wrap>and millions. <wrap hide>1358\|01:49:17\|610\|01:49:21\|850</wrap><wrap quote>Such are the problems with which the guiding hierarchy is faced</wrap> and they are faced with <wrap hide>1359\|01:49:21\|850\|01:49:23\|690</wrap>it in the time sense. <wrap hide>1360\|01:49:23\|930\|01:49:31\|610</wrap>Now, if for instance, this was written at the same time as a writing, which could say <wrap hide>1361\|01:49:31\|610\|01:49:38\|650</wrap>when 1945 came, this occurred, so then in the forties, then D.K. could be speaking of <wrap hide>1362\|01:49:38\|650\|01:49:48\|630</wrap>our present time and wondering whether we would succeed in avoiding world war disaster <wrap hide>1363\|01:49:49\|380\|01:49:49\|970</wrap>and death. <wrap hide>1364\|01:49:50\|150\|01:49:57\|810</wrap>And these things still face us, although he did say that the Shambhala impact of the year <wrap hide>1365\|01:49:57\|810\|01:50:05\|750</wrap>2000 could be succeeded by perhaps less destruction than previous Shambhala impacts. <wrap hide>1366\|01:50:08\|240\|01:50:13\|810</wrap>So there's a little, little ambiguity here, but certainly we can interpret it in both <wrap hide>1367\|01:50:13\|810\|01:50:14\|130</wrap>ways. <wrap hide>1368\|01:50:14\|130\|01:50:19\|270</wrap>And I think it makes a lot of sense to interpret this in terms of the possibly impending second <wrap hide>1369\|01:50:19\|270\|01:50:26\|550</wrap>world war, which the hierarchy sought to avert through the good offices of the disciples <wrap hide>1370\|01:50:26\|550\|01:50:34\|410</wrap>of the world who were not powerful enough or perhaps numerous enough to avert world <wrap hide>1371\|01:50:34\|410\|01:50:34\|810</wrap>war. <wrap hide>1372\|01:50:37\|320\|01:50:43\|750</wrap>The question is still one which comes before us, especially in a nuclear age. <wrap hide>1373\|01:50:43\|910\|01:50:49\|290</wrap>I believe that hierarchy had so much rearranging of its plans due to the release of atomic <wrap hide>1374\|01:50:49\|290\|01:50:51\|950</wrap>energy through the atomic bomb. <wrap hide>1375\|01:50:51\|950\|01:51:04\|630</wrap>Um, so much rearranging of its hitherto created plans because the possibility of humanity <wrap hide>1376\|01:51:04\|630\|01:51:13\|370</wrap>truly annihilating itself quite permanently then loomed as a possibility. <wrap hide>1377\|01:51:14\|630\|01:51:19\|670</wrap>And D.K. did say it was a possibility which could be visioned, not some idle dream. <wrap hide>1378\|01:51:20\|710\|01:51:26\|510</wrap>So later D.K. will talk about the plans as they did exist for the reappearance of the Christ, <wrap hide>1379\|01:51:26\|590\|01:51:33\|590</wrap>I think in the 20th century and the plans as they had to be modified, I think due to <wrap hide>1380\|01:51:33\|590\|01:51:44\|270</wrap>the very real appearance of atomic energy through atomic weaponry, uh, at the end of <wrap hide>1381\|01:51:44\|270\|01:51:45\|770</wrap>the second world war. <wrap hide>1382\|01:51:46\|730\|01:51:54\|270</wrap>So hierarchy is faced with a great time problem and is trying to prevent even now humanity <wrap hide>1383\|01:51:54\|270\|01:52:03\|770</wrap>from going down, uh, in a still greater world disaster and greater world war and far more <wrap hide>1384\|01:52:03\|770\|01:52:11\|530</wrap>universal death than occurred even in the second world war, which he said, I think would <wrap hide>1385\|01:52:11\|530\|01:52:15\|910</wrap>be considered something like child's play compared to the war which could emerge. <wrap hide>1386\|01:52:17\|070\|01:52:22\|910</wrap><wrap quote>Scorpio was also most interestingly connected with the constellation Cancer through the <wrap hide>1387\|01:52:22\|910\|01:52:26\|690</wrap>influence of the sixth ray </wrap>coming via Neptune. <wrap hide>1388\|01:52:27\|010\|01:52:27\|110</wrap>Correct? <wrap hide>1389\|01:52:27\|810\|01:52:34\|250</wrap>So there is the esoteric ruler Neptune and the hierarchy ruler Neptune conveying the <wrap hide>1390\|01:52:34\|250\|01:52:40\|770</wrap>sixth ray. Cancer itself as a constellation does not relate to the sixth ray of Mars. <wrap hide>1391\|01:52:42\|590\|01:52:47\|450</wrap><wrap quote>For it should be remembered that that ray is also expressing itself through Neptune, <wrap hide>1\|00:00:02\|480\|00:00:10\|320</wrap>but in a spiritual and esoteric manner</wrap> related not to the blood, but to the life as he is <wrap hide>1393\|01:52:57\|390\|01:52:58\|310</wrap>fond of saying. <wrap hide>1394\|01:52:58\|310\|01:53:05\|670</wrap>So you know, the spiritualization of science is also related to Neptune and all of the <wrap hide>1395\|01:53:05\|670\|01:53:08\|530</wrap>psychic research which is underway. <wrap hide>1396\|01:53:11\|410\|01:53:14\|890</wrap><wrap quote>Neptune governs Cancer esoterically</wrap> and also hierarchically. <wrap hide>1397\|01:53:15\|070\|01:53:19\|670</wrap><wrap quote>The significance is therefore clear for Cancer is the sign of birth. <wrap hide>1\|00:00:02\|480\|00:00:10\|320</wrap>It is the door into incarnation and the sign of generation.</wrap> The processes of creating the <wrap hide>1399\|01:53:27\|650\|01:53:35\|630</wrap>physical vehicle are undertaken in Cancer, the incarnation, the sacral center processes <wrap hide>1400\|01:53:35\|630\|01:53:37\|830</wrap>leading to incarnation. <wrap hide>1401\|01:53:38\|410\|01:53:43\|690</wrap>So the moon is connected with that sacral center from some perspective and the moon <wrap hide>1402\|01:53:43\|690\|01:53:45\|750</wrap>is also the ruler of Cancer. <wrap hide>1403\|01:53:46\|650\|01:53:51\|270</wrap>The desire for incarnation has created this descent into incarnation. <wrap hide>1404\|01:53:53\|290\|01:53:55\|930</wrap>Scorpio is the sign of sex and regeneration. <wrap hide>1405\|01:53:55\|930\|01:54:01\|230</wrap>Well, it's one of the signs of sex, Taurus being another, Libra being another. <wrap hide>1406\|01:54:01\|930\|01:54:07\|410</wrap>Scorpio is the sign of sex which leads to physical incarnation and Cancer. <wrap hide>1407\|01:54:08\|550\|01:54:15\|590</wrap>I don't know how we would count that: Scorpio, Sagittarius, Capricorn, Aquarius, Pisces, <wrap hide>1408\|01:54:17\|010\|01:54:18\|870</wrap>and then Aries, Taurus, Gemini. <wrap hide>1409\|01:54:18\|870\|01:54:27\|210</wrap>Well, if we count forward, we get nine signs and then the tenth sign being one of birth. <wrap hide>1410\|01:54:30\|090\|01:54:33\|410</wrap>So Scorpio is the sign of sex and of regeneration. <wrap hide>1411\|01:54:35\|330\|01:54:41\|790</wrap>So into matter and out of matter, regeneration, meaning that we regenerate ourselves and do <wrap hide>1412\|01:54:41\|790\|01:54:45\|810</wrap>not generate our own kind. <wrap hide>1413\|01:54:47\|050\|01:54:52\|250</wrap>My old teacher used to say that there comes a time in the life of every disciple when <wrap hide>1414\|01:54:53\|280\|01:55:01\|490</wrap>he ceases reproducing his own kind and then reproduces himself, which is interesting. <wrap hide>1415\|01:55:02\|790\|01:55:13\|410</wrap>The factor of regeneration has to do with building the new man in Christ, building the <wrap hide>1416\|01:55:13\|410\|01:55:18\|250</wrap>man who becomes the soul rather than the man who descends into incarnation. <wrap hide>1417\|01:55:19\|590\|01:55:25\|130</wrap>So true regeneration is, or the result of regeneration is occurring at the fourth initiation. <wrap hide>1418\|01:55:26\|110\|01:55:33\|850</wrap>But many things lead to that, a constant improvement on the generating of the self in its true <wrap hide>1419\|01:55:33\|850\|01:55:34\|510</wrap>nature. <wrap hide>1420\|01:55:36\|250\|01:55:42\|470</wrap><wrap quote>Scorpio is the sign of sex and of regeneration, </wrap>both together, <wrap quote>and birth in Cancer is ever <wrap hide>1421\|01:55:42\|470\|01:55:46\|350</wrap>the intended result of the sex relation.</wrap> <wrap hide>1422\|01:55:46\|370\|01:55:57\|790</wrap>So D.K. seems to be making a comment about our present attitudes towards sexuality as something <wrap hide>1423\|01:55:57\|790\|01:56:09\|830</wrap>psychological, as something to promote perhaps better physical health, something that is <wrap hide>1424\|01:56:09\|830\|01:56:17\|930</wrap>simply an indulgence of the instinctual nature without thought of the intended result, which <wrap hide>1425\|01:56:17\|930\|01:56:18\|870</wrap>is ever intended. <wrap hide>1426\|01:56:19\|930\|01:56:26\|830</wrap>He seems to be a conservative in this respect, and I think we do have much to learn from <wrap hide>1427\|01:56:26\|830\|01:56:27\|990</wrap>his ideas here. <wrap hide>1428\|01:56:28\|130\|01:56:31\|210</wrap>The Dalai Lama pretty much said the same. <wrap hide>1429\|01:56:31\|830\|01:56:39\|230</wrap>So right now these sexual forces are being prostituted in many ways through the glorification <wrap hide>1430\|01:56:39\|230\|01:56:40\|130</wrap>of the lower ego. <wrap hide>1431\|01:56:42\|210\|01:56:48\|070</wrap>It's difficult to extricate oneself from those tendencies, but a greater perspective makes <wrap hide>1432\|01:56:48\|070\|01:56:48\|850</wrap>that possible. <wrap hide>1433\|01:56:51\|280\|01:56:57\|090</wrap>Ever the intended result of the sexual, of the sex relation. <wrap hide>1434\|01:56:59\|470\|01:57:03\|670</wrap>So sex leads to birth as Scorpio leads to Cancer. <wrap hide>1435\|01:57:03\|670\|01:57:08\|030</wrap><wrap quote>Father, spirit, and mother matter, when brought together, produce the son.</wrap> <wrap hide>1436\|01:57:08\|950\|01:57:15\|030</wrap>And this is an extrapolation of the sexual relation toward a more cosmic perspective. <wrap hide>1437\|01:57:16\|370\|01:57:24\|190</wrap><wrap quote>The tests and difficulties and pains of this era are symptoms or indications of the entering <wrap hide>1438\|01:57:24\|190\|01:57:27\|010</wrap>into manifestation of the new civilization and culture.</wrap> <wrap hide>1439\|01:57:27\|010\|01:57:34\|950</wrap>So Scorpio, by helping us to confront this pain, this pain which occurs when the soul <wrap hide>1440\|01:57:34\|950\|01:57:41\|730</wrap>descends into matter and attempts to establish its fifth kingdom within the realm of the <wrap hide>1441\|01:57:41\|730\|01:57:49\|990</wrap>fourth kingdom of nature, Scorpio assists with this descent, and the pains and difficulties <wrap hide>1442\|01:57:49\|990\|01:57:51\|130</wrap>are worth bearing. <wrap hide>1443\|01:57:52\|430\|01:57:54\|750</wrap>They are birthing pains in essence. <wrap hide>1444\|01:57:55\|810\|01:58:03\|390</wrap>So these pains and difficulties they portend says D.K. at <wrap quote>They portend the birth of the new era for <wrap hide>1445\|01:58:03\|390\|01:58:09\|790</wrap>which the entire world waits,</wrap> and much of the waiting is actually unconscious, unconscious <wrap hide>1446\|01:58:09\|790\|01:58:10\|230</wrap>waiting. <wrap hide>1447\|01:58:14\|180\|01:58:23\|990</wrap><wrap quote>This will happen if—and D.K. does open the possibility here of delay—if, speaking esoterically, <wrap hide>1448\|01:58:23\|990\|01:58:33\|430</wrap>the sixth ray energy of Mars is transmuted into the sixth ray energy of Neptune, for the <wrap hide>1449\|01:58:33\|430\|01:58:39\|250</wrap>one is objective and full of blood, and the other is subjective and full of life.</wrap> <wrap hide>1450\|01:58:39\|370\|01:58:47\|710</wrap>That's the quotation which defines very clearly the relationship between Mars and Neptune. <wrap hide>1451\|01:58:49\|570\|01:58:58\|810</wrap>We do need the Christ, who is Vishnu, who is Neptune, who represents the great subjective <wrap hide>1452\|01:58:58\|810\|01:59:04\|350</wrap>life and who is the initiator of humanity for the first two initiations. <wrap hide>1453\|01:59:04\|590\|01:59:10\|950</wrap>Neptune is involved in that initiation process, producing essentially the mystic rather than <wrap hide>1454\|01:59:10\|950\|01:59:11\|790</wrap>the occultist. <wrap hide>1455\|01:59:12\|790\|01:59:20\|530</wrap>We need this very much, and the transmutative process is up to us. <wrap hide>1456\|01:59:22\|320\|01:59:40\|630</wrap>So I will end Esoteric Astrology Adventures 78B at this point, and we will see whether <wrap hide>1457\|01:59:40\|630\|01:59:44\|650</wrap>there will be a 78C or whether we will go on to 79. <wrap hide>1458\|01:59:44\|910\|01:59:59\|910</wrap>Let us together sound The Great Invocation, and it's good to see it for those who may <wrap hide>1459\|01:59:59\|910\|02:00:02\|370</wrap>not know it by heart. <wrap hide>1460\|02:00:11\|570\|02:00:19\|610</wrap>From the point of light within the mind of God, let light stream forth into the minds <wrap hide>1461\|02:00:19\|610\|02:00:20\|290</wrap>of men. <wrap hide>1462\|02:00:21\|230\|02:00:23\|310</wrap>Let light descend on Earth. <wrap hide>1463\|02:00:25\|910\|02:00:32\|090</wrap>From the point of love within the heart of God, let love stream forth into the hearts <wrap hide>1464\|02:00:32\|090\|02:00:32\|650</wrap>of men. <wrap hide>1465\|02:00:32\|870\|02:00:35\|410</wrap>May Christ return to Earth. <wrap hide>1466\|02:00:37\|970\|02:00:43\|730</wrap>From the center where the will of God is known, let purpose guide the little wills of men, <wrap hide>1467\|02:00:44\|770\|02:00:47\|730</wrap>the purpose which the masters know and serve. <wrap hide>1468\|02:00:50\|230\|02:00:55\|090</wrap>From the center which we call the race of men, let the plan of love and light work out <wrap hide>1469\|02:00:55\|090\|02:00:59\|050</wrap>and may it seal the door where evil dwells. <wrap hide>1470\|02:00:59\|050\|02:01:05\|950</wrap>Let light and love and power restore the plan on Earth. <wrap hide>1471\|02:01:12\|330\|02:01:25\|770</wrap>Let light and love and power restore the plan on Earth. <wrap hide>1472\|02:01:47\|250\|02:01:54\|090</wrap>Okay friends, we will move on with our discussion shortly. <wrap hide>1473\|02:01:58\|030\|02:02:01\|570</wrap>Continuing in the Scorpio chapter. <wrap hide>1474\|02:02:04\|310\|02:02:05\|990</wrap>See you then.	+	<wrap hide>1\|00:00:02\|480\|00:00:10\|320</wrap>Hello everybody, this is our 78th Esoteric Astrology adventure. <wrap hide>2\|00:00:11\|120\|00:00:23\|960</wrap>We have been working through the Scorpio chapter after some pause, and here we have page 213. <wrap hide>3\|00:00:23\|960\|00:00:31\|740</wrap>That's where we came to, and I think it is worthwhile to look at a little of what we said before. <wrap hide>4\|00:00:33\|580\|00:00:42\|920</wrap>We're talking about the way that under the sixth ray, a religion such as Christianity can be slanted <wrap hide>5\|00:00:42\|920\|00:00:49\|740</wrap>in a certain direction which was not at all intended by its founder. We're speaking of <wrap hide>6\|00:00:49\|740\|00:00:58\|580</wrap>Saint Paul, who was a disciple at that time, moving towards the third degree, but having passed the second <wrap hide>7\|00:00:58\|580\|00:01:09\|880</wrap>and intensely involved in the whole apparent conflict between the Judaism of the time, and the emerging sect <wrap hide>8\|00:01:09\|880\|00:01:16\|800</wrap>within Judaism called... well, I don't know if it was called Christianity at that time, but it was an emerging <wrap hide>9\|00:01:16\|800\|00:01:25\|760</wrap>sect that believed in the Master Jesus, or the Initiate Jesus, and his resurrection, and his promises, <wrap hide>10\|00:01:26\|060\|00:01:36\|920</wrap>and that which the Christ said through using the body of the Initiate Jesus. Interesting that Jesus <wrap hide>11\|00:01:36\|920\|00:01:48\|760</wrap>himself had taken not only the second initiation as Joshua, but the third initiation as Joshua the High Priest. <wrap hide>12\|00:01:48\|840\|00:01:58\|100</wrap>And so we see that Saint Paul at the time was still an initiate of the second degree, though working through <wrap hide>13\|00:01:58\|100\|00:02:09\|140</wrap>the third, and probably it is to be suspected taking the fourth initiation as a representative of the new sect <wrap hide>14\|00:02:09\|140\|00:02:18\|400</wrap>of Christianity. It's interesting to see when those who are our present masters, the ones we work with most <wrap hide>15\|00:02:18\|400\|00:02:27\|420</wrap>closely, when they took the various initiations. Apparently Master Morya, who may well have been Moses, <wrap hide>16\|00:02:28\|260\|00:02:39\|720</wrap>took the third degree when receiving the law. Some think that was a very long time ago. Others place it more <wrap hide>17\|00:02:39\|720\|00:02:52\|340</wrap>in the time of Joshua before the wandering in the wilderness, before the fleeing from the land of Egypt, <wrap hide>18\|00:02:53\|600\|00:03:00\|880</wrap>or not before that, but following that episode of fleeing from the land of Egypt and wandering in the wilderness. <wrap hide>19\|00:03:02\|140\|00:03:11\|000</wrap>So it was Saint Paul, says the Tibetan here, who gave the Scorpio Mars slant to the interpretation and exposition <wrap hide>20\|00:03:11\|000\|00:03:21\|620</wrap>of the Christian teaching, and deflected—that's quite a strong word—deflected this interpretation and exposition <wrap hide>21\|00:03:21\|620\|00:03:29\|080</wrap>of the teaching, deflected the energy of this teaching into channels of teaching which its founder had never intended. <wrap hide>22\|00:03:29\|080\|00:03:39\|340</wrap>Elsewhere, D.K. tells us that in a way he emphasized the ancient blood religion of the Jews and also tried to, <wrap hide>23\|00:03:39\|340\|00:03:51\|300</wrap>we understand, reconcile it with certain Hellenistic concepts. And this is the great warning I think to all of us. <wrap hide>24\|00:03:51\|300\|00:04:00\|720</wrap>Such is often, he says here, the undesirable effect of the activities of well-meaning disciples. <wrap hide>25\|00:04:01\|120\|00:04:19\|860</wrap>And in that time it was the apostle Paul as the unredeemed Saul, S-A-U-L, who was in a way a well-meaning disciple. <wrap hide>26\|00:04:20\|940\|00:04:29\|780</wrap><wrap quote>Such is often the undesirable effect of the activities of well-meaning disciples upon the work which they undertake <wrap hide>27\|00:04:29\|780\|00:04:35\|160</wrap>to carry on after the originator of some work for the Hierarchy passes over to the other side <wrap hide>28\|00:04:35\|160\|00:04:39\|400</wrap>through death or relinquishes his task in order to take up other duties.</wrap> <wrap hide>29\|00:04:39\|400\|00:04:47\|060</wrap>So even on the road to Damascus the preparation for the third initiation may have begun, <wrap hide>30\|00:04:47\|060\|00:05:00\|940</wrap>but Saul was undertaking that trip to Damascus mainly to challenge those who had undertaken the new allegiance to the new sect. <wrap hide>31\|00:05:01\|420\|00:05:14\|580</wrap>So it was only after he was stopped by the voice of the Christ along the way that he began to undertake the dissemination of the Christian teaching. <wrap hide>32\|00:05:15\|720\|00:05:24\|580</wrap>And even then, he was not fully influenced by the energy of love as later he came to be. <wrap hide>33\|00:05:24\|740\|00:05:34\|640</wrap>So he was still extremely zealous and he transferred the same zeal with which he persecuted the members of the early sect, <wrap hide>34\|00:05:34\|640\|00:05:46\|260</wrap>he transferred that zeal to the propagation of the tenets of that sect which he now accepted under the influence of that voice <wrap hide>35\|00:05:46\|260\|00:05:51\|180</wrap>and the influence of the undeniable blinding light. <wrap hide>36\|00:05:51\|960\|00:05:56\|860</wrap>So Mars can still be pretty strong at that stage of development <wrap hide>37\|00:05:56\|860\|00:06:07\|980</wrap>and we understand that a hidden planet and Mars contend with each other at the time of the third initiation, <wrap hide>38\|00:06:09\|000\|00:06:13\|800</wrap>with that planet probably being Vulcan and the spiritual will must win <wrap hide>39\|00:06:13\|800\|00:06:22\|920</wrap>over the driving impetuosity and combative nature, a zealous nature of Mars. <wrap hide>40\|00:06:22\|920\|00:06:28\|260</wrap>The zeal of course must be preserved in another way; it's not that we can ever relinquish our zeal. <wrap hide>41\|00:06:29\|360\|00:06:38\|960</wrap>Master Morya tells us to apply fiery striving, always, and he's speaking I suppose to disciples of all kinds. <wrap hide>42\|00:06:39\|160\|00:06:50\|600</wrap>It's just that the zeal is a burning sort of fuel to propagate the life which is basically directed towards still higher objectives <wrap hide>43\|00:06:50\|600\|00:06:55\|360</wrap>but under the control of the soul or the love, wisdom, energy. <wrap hide>44\|00:06:55\|980\|00:07:01\|780</wrap>So then we came to the end of Esoteric Astrology Adventure EAA 77. <wrap hide>45\|00:07:03\|220\|00:07:06\|800</wrap>I divided it into two parts. It's basically a two-hour program, A and B, <wrap hide>46\|00:07:06\|800\|00:07:17\|220</wrap>and we're beginning with EAA 78, section A of that. Each section of that type is about an hour long. <wrap hide>47\|00:07:18\|660\|00:07:27\|780</wrap>I'm in a position here where the internet is slow and the conversion into a form, <wrap hide>48\|00:07:28\|300\|00:07:35\|560</wrap>a program that all can use rather than just some, takes an inordinately long time, <wrap hide>49\|00:07:35\|640\|00:07:44\|240</wrap>so sometimes I simply go ahead with a program of a number of hours to save the conversion time. <wrap hide>50\|00:07:45\|280\|00:07:55\|860</wrap>And then I rely upon Brett, who is assisting me in all of this, to divide it into programs of smaller duration, shorter duration. <wrap hide>51\|00:07:56\|760\|00:08:02\|460</wrap>So <wrap quote>The blood theme and the death theme,</wrap> these are very Scorpionic. <wrap hide>52\|00:08:03\|800\|00:08:07\|880</wrap><wrap quote>the suffering and the dire testing of the disciple, <wrap hide>1\|00:00:02\|480\|00:00:10\|320</wrap>the value of the individual conflict and the consciousness of the misery of existence <wrap hide>54\|00:08:16\|160\|00:08:22\|000</wrap>are basically due to the combined influences of Scorpio and of Mars <wrap hide>1\|00:00:02\|480\|00:00:10\|320</wrap>which have ruled Christianity for so long and which are only now beginning somewhat to lose their influence.</wrap> <wrap hide>56\|00:08:28\|880\|00:08:30\|180</wrap>And that was 80 years ago. <wrap hide>57\|00:08:32\|340\|00:08:44\|360</wrap>We're reminded on the fixed cross, we experience: blinding light, Taurus; fiery pain, Leo; bitter woe, Scorpio. <wrap hide>58\|00:08:45\|520\|00:08:48\|060</wrap>And that fits in with this blood theme and death theme, <wrap hide>59\|00:08:49\|360\|00:08:54\|680</wrap>all of the pain of the required detachments. <wrap hide>60\|00:08:56\|080\|00:08:58\|900</wrap>This is what we do experience, <wrap hide>61\|00:09:00\|200\|00:09:02\|520</wrap>and the individual struggles on. <wrap hide>62\|00:09:02\|720\|00:09:08\|460</wrap>I suppose in some way that's an improvement over the resignation, <wrap hide>63\|00:09:11\|090\|00:09:19\|100</wrap>excuse me, to endless reincarnational opportunity as offered in Hinduism <wrap hide>64\|00:09:20\|240\|00:09:22\|460</wrap>and in some forms of Buddhism. <wrap hide>65\|00:09:23\|960\|00:09:32\|740</wrap>The adherents of those ways of life sometimes do not strive forward as an individual, <wrap hide>66\|00:09:33\|960\|00:09:34\|940</wrap>as one must, <wrap hide>67\|00:09:35\|740\|00:09:44\|700</wrap>and rely upon the slow processes, the inevitable reincarnational processes to bring them opportunity <wrap hide>68\|00:09:45\|400\|00:09:48\|300</wrap>without a great deal of internal struggle and effort, <wrap hide>69\|00:09:48\|300\|00:09:56\|340</wrap>which struggle and effort basically accelerate the process at a certain stage upon the path. <wrap hide>70\|00:09:56\|980\|00:10:05\|320</wrap>I think so many people are now tired of this particular aspect of the Christian theme <wrap hide>71\|00:10:05\|320\|00:10:14\|380</wrap>and are looking for its transition into a more universal religion of love <wrap hide>72\|00:10:14\|380\|00:10:19\|320</wrap>which really serves the message of the Christ and not so much the message of Saint Paul, <wrap hide>73\|00:10:19\|500\|00:10:24\|980</wrap>although Saint Paul at this time, as the Master Hilarion, would no longer agree, <wrap hide>74\|00:10:26\|200\|00:10:29\|660</wrap>of course, because of his expanded perception as a master <wrap hide>75\|00:10:31\|140\|00:10:35\|060</wrap>with the position that he propagated at that time. <wrap hide>76\|00:10:35\|060\|00:10:38\|900</wrap>But thus it is with the masters: they are intense at a certain stage of evolution, <wrap hide>77\|00:10:39\|620\|00:10:42\|040</wrap>they make a deep impression upon others <wrap hide>78\|00:10:42\|040\|00:10:44\|160</wrap>and then later they become still more enlightened <wrap hide>79\|00:10:44\|840\|00:10:49\|900</wrap>and have to deal with the karma of that which they set in motion. <wrap hide>80\|00:10:53\|120\|00:11:01\|240</wrap>They set in motion certain energy streams which become part of the conditioning of humanity <wrap hide>81\|00:11:01\|240\|00:11:06\|200</wrap>and then these are karmic factors in a larger sense, <wrap hide>82\|00:11:06\|200\|00:11:12\|760</wrap>not so much the personal karma of things done wrong in the individual way, <wrap hide>83\|00:11:12\|760\|00:11:17\|340</wrap>but they are undertaking the rectification of some of the karma of humanity <wrap hide>84\|00:11:18\|140\|00:11:24\|120</wrap>for which they have been responsible. <wrap hide>85\|00:11:25\|820\|00:11:31\|300</wrap>And we do find the Master Hilarion working closely with the Master Jesus at this time <wrap hide>86\|00:11:32\|220\|00:11:34\|780</wrap>and some of his work is in the field of religion <wrap hide>87\|00:11:34\|780\|00:11:40\|920</wrap>as he tries to undo much of the blind faith <wrap hide>88\|00:11:41\|580\|00:11:45\|840</wrap>which he seemed to instil in people's consciousnesses <wrap hide>89\|00:11:45\|840\|00:11:51\|860</wrap>and help them understand that religion is an aspect of science as well. <wrap hide>90\|00:11:52\|820\|00:11:55\|360</wrap>The union of science and religion can be achieved. <wrap hide>91\|00:11:56\|160\|00:11:57\|540</wrap>This he tries to do at this time. <wrap hide>92\|00:11:57\|540\|00:12:00\|720</wrap>He has multiple activities. <wrap hide>93\|00:12:00\|880\|00:12:05\|780</wrap>Thus it is with so many of the masters: their areas of interest are not all known to us, <wrap hide>94\|00:12:05\|780\|00:12:12\|260</wrap>but they are not simply one-pointedly interested in only one thing. <wrap hide>95\|00:12:12\|460\|00:12:17\|640</wrap>They have many abilities and multiple interests <wrap hide>96\|00:12:18\|460\|00:12:25\|180</wrap>so that it's difficult to pigeonhole them and say they work only at this. <wrap hide>97\|00:12:26\|500\|00:12:29\|140</wrap><wrap quote>A study of the processes of death <wrap hide>98\|00:12:30\|340\|00:12:33\|220</wrap>as the sign Scorpio conditions them <wrap hide>99\|00:12:33\|220\|00:12:34\|920</wrap></wrap>because there are other types of death <wrap hide>100\|00:12:35\|600\|00:12:36\|980</wrap>conditioned by other signs, <wrap hide>101\|00:12:37\|680\|00:12:43\|000</wrap><wrap quote>and the processes of death as we see them working out in the sign Pisces <wrap hide>102\|00:12:43\|000\|00:12:44\|380</wrap>would be of very real value.</wrap> <wrap hide>103\|00:12:44\|540\|00:12:48\|400</wrap>We see that in each case Pluto is involved. <wrap hide>104\|00:12:49\|640\|00:12:52\|160</wrap>Pluto has a somewhat higher ruler in Pisces, <wrap hide>105\|00:12:53\|360\|00:12:55\|240</wrap>so Pluto involved, <wrap hide>106\|00:12:56\|100\|00:12:58\|720</wrap>the esoteric and hierarchical ruler of Pisces. <wrap hide>107\|00:12:58\|720\|00:13:02\|240</wrap>but a kind of special ruler in Scorpio. <wrap hide>108\|00:13:03\|120\|00:13:06\|600</wrap>D.K. doesn't really call it orthodox or esoteric, <wrap hide>109\|00:13:06\|600\|00:13:10\|580</wrap>but Pluto is a sub-ruler, <wrap hide>110\|00:13:12\|220\|00:13:16\|600</wrap>the sub-ruler of its own alter ego, Mars. <wrap hide>111\|00:13:17\|240\|00:13:20\|560</wrap>So in a way, Mars is to Pluto as Venus is to the Earth. <wrap hide>112\|00:13:20\|560\|00:13:23\|640</wrap><wrap quote>Death through the influences of Pluto <wrap hide>113\|00:13:23\|640\|00:13:27\|200</wrap>and death through the influences of Mars <wrap hide>114\|00:13:27\|200\|00:13:28\|640</wrap>are widely different.</wrap> <wrap hide>115\|00:13:29\|320\|00:13:33\|020</wrap>And D.K. is going to perhaps explain this. <wrap hide>116\|00:13:33\|020\|00:13:35\|220</wrap>There are subtler deaths involved, <wrap hide>117\|00:13:36\|900\|00:13:43\|060</wrap>and the enhancement of the penetration of consciousness <wrap hide>118\|00:13:43\|060\|00:13:45\|980</wrap>is promoted very much by Pluto. <wrap hide>119\|00:13:47\|280\|00:13:50\|360</wrap>Mars leads through battle to revelation, <wrap hide>120\|00:13:51\|960\|00:13:57\|060</wrap>but Pluto has this somewhat deeper effect <wrap hide>121\|00:13:59\|280\|00:14:05\|160</wrap>and eliminates many obscurations to consciousness. <wrap hide>122\|00:14:06\|300\|00:14:11\|180</wrap>Pluto, or the planet of death, as D.K. tells us, never destroys consciousness. <wrap hide>123\|00:14:11\|180\|00:14:13\|280</wrap>When we see Pluto in aspect to Venus, <wrap hide>124\|00:14:13\|280\|00:14:15\|020</wrap>it can mean many things, <wrap hide>125\|00:14:15\|020\|00:14:17\|680</wrap>but the clarification of consciousness <wrap hide>126\|00:14:17\|680\|00:14:21\|120</wrap>through the relinquishment of obscurations <wrap hide>127\|00:14:21\|120\|00:14:25\|900</wrap>to soul perception is one of the things that can be meant. <wrap hide>128\|00:14:27\|920\|00:14:30\|720</wrap>That's the thing about astrological aspects <wrap hide>129\|00:14:30\|720\|00:14:34\|820</wrap>and positions in sign and houses: <wrap hide>130\|00:14:34\|820\|00:14:36\|380</wrap>they mean so many things. <wrap hide>131\|00:14:36\|380\|00:14:40\|120</wrap>It requires the intuition of the astrologer <wrap hide>132\|00:14:40\|120\|00:14:45\|360</wrap>to determine what may be the meaning in the particular context, <wrap hide>133\|00:14:45\|360\|00:14:54\|120</wrap>which is the individual or group being considered. <wrap hide>134\|00:14:56\|060\|00:14:59\|420</wrap>So in a way, Mars and Pluto are widely different. <wrap hide>135\|00:15:00\|200\|00:15:01\|940</wrap>Pluto is an esoteric planet, <wrap hide>136\|00:15:01\|940\|00:15:07\|940</wrap>although it is less developed than Mars, <wrap hide>137\|00:15:07\|940\|00:15:10\|060</wrap>which in a sense is its feature. <wrap hide>138\|00:15:10\|060\|00:15:13\|400</wrap>So there are some enigmas surrounding Pluto. <wrap hide>139\|00:15:13\|400\|00:15:17\|320</wrap>It's an esoteric planet but not yet a sacred planet, <wrap hide>140\|00:15:17\|320\|00:15:22\|360</wrap>nor is its alter ego Mars a sacred planet. <wrap hide>141\|00:15:23\|020\|00:15:24\|340</wrap>In the case of Venus and Earth, <wrap hide>142\|00:15:24\|340\|00:15:26\|080</wrap>of course Venus is a sacred planet, <wrap hide>143\|00:15:26\|860\|00:15:28\|900</wrap>and it is the alter ego to Earth, <wrap hide>144\|00:15:28\|900\|00:15:31\|420</wrap>which is not yet a sacred planet, <wrap hide>145\|00:15:31\|420\|00:15:33\|020</wrap>at least outwardly. <wrap hide>146\|00:15:33\|900\|00:15:40\|040</wrap><wrap quote>Death in Pisces through the energy of Pluto is transformation— <wrap hide>147\|00:15:40\|840\|00:15:45\|200</wrap>a transformation so vital and so basic that the</wrap> <wrap hide>148\|00:15:46\|040\|00:15:49\|080</wrap>Okay, death in Pisces through the energy of Pluto <wrap hide>149\|00:15:49\|940\|00:15:55\|580</wrap>is a transformation and thereby, in a way, an enhancement of consciousness. <wrap hide>150\|00:15:55\|580\|00:15:59\|300</wrap>And then D.K. is going to quote here some of the old commentary: <wrap hide>151\|00:15:59\|300\|00:16:04\|280</wrap>a transformation so basic that the—and then quote— <wrap hide>152\|00:16:04\|280\|00:16:07\|520</wrap><wrap quote>"... Ancient One is no longer seen. <wrap hide>1\|00:00:02\|480\|00:00:10\|320</wrap>He sinks to the depth of the ocean of life; <wrap hide>1\|00:00:02\|480\|00:00:10\|320</wrap>he descends into hell, <wrap hide>155\|00:16:17\|940\|00:16:21\|020</wrap>but the gates of hell hold him not. <wrap hide>156\|00:16:21\|020\|00:16:24\|120</wrap>He, the new and living One—</wrap> <wrap hide>157\|00:16:24\|120\|00:16:28\|440</wrap>and I assume then the transformed one— <wrap hide>158\|00:16:28\|440\|00:16:32\|320</wrap><wrap quote>leaves below that which has held him down throughout the ages</wrap>— <wrap hide>159\|00:16:33\|180\|00:16:35\|280</wrap>that which has obscured his consciousness— <wrap hide>160\|00:16:36\|200\|00:16:38\|400</wrap><wrap quote>and rises from the depths <wrap hide>161\|00:16:39\|580\|00:16:43\|040</wrap>unto the heights, close to the throne of God."</wrap> <wrap hide>162\|00:16:43\|040\|00:16:47\|760</wrap>Interesting that we can consider here Aries, Pluto, Shambhala. <wrap hide>163\|00:16:49\|120\|00:16:51\|940</wrap>And that rising is a kind of resurrection <wrap hide>164\|00:16:52\|520\|00:16:58\|040</wrap>connected with Aries, and Shambhala is the throne of God. <wrap hide>165\|00:16:58\|440\|00:17:00\|480</wrap>So this Scorpionic experience <wrap hide>166\|00:17:01\|380\|00:17:06\|240</wrap>leads to a resurrection in which Pluto plays a big part. <wrap hide>167\|00:17:06\|240\|00:17:08\|860</wrap>It may be a non-sacred planet, <wrap hide>168\|00:17:09\|780\|00:17:13\|340</wrap>but all planets are gods when compared <wrap hide>169\|00:17:14\|140\|00:17:17\|180</wrap>to what the tiny human God is. <wrap hide>170\|00:17:17\|180\|00:17:19\|200</wrap>They are great gods, <wrap hide>171\|00:17:20\|200\|00:17:23\|420</wrap>and they each can have a very powerful effect <wrap hide>172\|00:17:23\|420\|00:17:26\|640</wrap>upon the human soul and human monad. <wrap hide>173\|00:17:28\|440\|00:17:31\|760</wrap>So the Ancient One in many respects is the personality, <wrap hide>174\|00:17:31\|760\|00:17:36\|400</wrap>and Pluto brings death to those states of consciousness <wrap hide>175\|00:17:37\|300\|00:17:39\|620</wrap>which are strictly personal and material <wrap hide>176\|00:17:39\|620\|00:17:41\|860</wrap>and under the spell of the lower elementals. <wrap hide>177\|00:17:41\|860\|00:17:45\|540</wrap>In this case, Pluto kills the moon, <wrap hide>178\|00:17:46\|440\|00:17:50\|620</wrap>just the way the moon falls in the sign Scorpio, <wrap hide>179\|00:17:51\|260\|00:17:53\|060</wrap>which is ruled by Pluto. <wrap hide>180\|00:17:54\|320\|00:17:55\|960</wrap>So the buddhic consciousness <wrap hide>181\|00:17:57\|820\|00:18:00\|120</wrap>eventually obscures all the illusions <wrap hide>182\|00:18:00\|940\|00:18:05\|960</wrap>which have hitherto obscured soul and higher consciousness. <wrap hide>183\|00:18:05\|960\|00:18:08\|600</wrap>"He sinks to the depths of the ocean of life," <wrap hide>184\|00:18:08\|600\|00:18:11\|660</wrap>so he goes all the way down to the lowest plane. <wrap hide>185\|00:18:11\|660\|00:18:13\|340</wrap>We're not just speaking of water. <wrap hide>186\|00:18:14\|040\|00:18:18\|000</wrap>We're speaking of matter as water. <wrap hide>187\|00:18:18\|000\|00:18:20\|840</wrap>He descends into hell, which is the lower world. <wrap hide>188\|00:18:20\|840\|00:18:25\|180</wrap>It's not just the hell of the lowest astral plane. <wrap hide>189\|00:18:25\|960\|00:18:33\|280</wrap>It's the hell that exists in this frozen, external, material world. <wrap hide>190\|00:18:34\|440\|00:18:37\|160</wrap>But the gates of hell, through which he has passed <wrap hide>191\|00:18:37\|800\|00:18:39\|260</wrap>by coming into incarnation, <wrap hide>192\|00:18:39\|980\|00:18:41\|340</wrap>hold him not. <wrap hide>193\|00:18:41\|340\|00:18:43\|720</wrap>He returns. <wrap hide>194\|00:18:43\|720\|00:18:46\|780</wrap>Those gates of hell now become the gates <wrap hide>195\|00:18:48\|700\|00:18:51\|000</wrap>of entry into the mysteries. <wrap hide>196\|00:18:52\|040\|00:18:53\|140</wrap>And he is transformed. <wrap hide>197\|00:18:54\|460\|00:18:56\|460</wrap>He has shed his old skin. <wrap hide>198\|00:18:56\|460\|00:18:58\|660</wrap>He has shed the lower <wrap hide>199\|00:19:00\|900\|00:19:03\|140</wrap>vestures and their domination over him, <wrap hide>200\|00:19:03\|140\|00:19:05\|580</wrap>and has now a new life. <wrap hide>201\|00:19:05\|580\|00:19:09\|360</wrap>It's almost the way the poison of the serpent <wrap hide>202\|00:19:09\|360\|00:19:12\|780</wrap>can become an elixir of life. <wrap hide>203\|00:19:12\|780\|00:19:16\|740</wrap>Pluto is related to that process, and so is Scorpio. <wrap hide>204\|00:19:16\|740\|00:19:20\|400</wrap>So he's now the new and living one, and he leaves below <wrap hide>205\|00:19:21\|420\|00:19:25\|420</wrap>all those phases of consciousness which have obscured <wrap hide>206\|00:19:25\|420\|00:19:28\|860</wrap>his higher potentials for consciousness, <wrap hide>207\|00:19:29\|480\|00:19:34\|400</wrap>and rises from the lower three worlds, <wrap hide>208\|00:19:34\|400\|00:19:38\|480</wrap>which are the dense physical vehicle of the Solar Logos <wrap hide>209\|00:19:38\|480\|00:19:40\|240</wrap>and Planetary Logos, <wrap hide>210\|00:19:40\|240\|00:19:41\|620</wrap>unto the heights. <wrap hide>211\|00:19:42\|600\|00:19:46\|580</wrap>He rises through the cosmic ethers, <wrap hide>212\|00:19:47\|840\|00:19:50\|760</wrap>and he is close to the throne of God. <wrap hide>213\|00:19:50\|760\|00:19:52\|120</wrap>We don't know how close, but <wrap hide>214\|00:19:53\|360\|00:19:55\|900</wrap>when we undergo the ascension initiation, <wrap hide>215\|00:19:55\|900\|00:19:58\|660</wrap>we sit at the right hand of God. <wrap hide>216\|00:19:59\|420\|00:20:02\|320</wrap>This may be on the monadic plane, <wrap hide>217\|00:20:02\|320\|00:20:04\|100</wrap>or in the case of Christ, <wrap hide>218\|00:20:04\|660\|00:20:05\|960</wrap>a seventh degree initiate, <wrap hide>219\|00:20:07\|020\|00:20:08\|820</wrap>on the Logoic plane. <wrap hide>220\|00:20:10\|940\|00:20:15\|580</wrap>So this is not simply the slaughter of the form. <wrap hide>221\|00:20:15\|580\|00:20:18\|120</wrap>When we're dealing with slaughter, it is so Martian, <wrap hide>222\|00:20:18\|660\|00:20:20\|140</wrap>and slaughterhouses, <wrap hide>223\|00:20:21\|780\|00:20:24\|580</wrap>where the animal form <wrap hide>224\|00:20:27\|320\|00:20:30\|960</wrap>is brutally separated from the animal consciousness, <wrap hide>225\|00:20:32\|260\|00:20:37\|800</wrap>are ruled far more by Mars than by Pluto. <wrap hide>226\|00:20:38\|540\|00:20:40\|900</wrap>The blood is flowing there, the red blood, <wrap hide>227\|00:20:42\|100\|00:20:45\|700</wrap>and it's a symbol of the sacrifice of the animal nature. <wrap hide>228\|00:20:45\|700\|00:20:48\|320</wrap>It also is coming to an end. <wrap hide>229\|00:20:48\|980\|00:20:54\|100</wrap>D.K. talks about the cruel meat-eating groups of the last 500 years. <wrap hide>230\|00:20:55\|460\|00:20:57\|940</wrap>They are barbaric in that sense, <wrap hide>231\|00:20:57\|940\|00:20:59\|980</wrap>and there are many among us today. <wrap hide>232\|00:21:02\|020\|00:21:06\|180</wrap>Although Alice Bailey said it's better to eat beef steak with a pure heart <wrap hide>233\|00:21:06\|180\|00:21:11\|660</wrap>than to be a — well, I'll just paraphrase — a gossiping vegetarian. <wrap hide>234\|00:21:15\|640\|00:21:19\|060</wrap>So the slaughter upon the battlefield of life, <wrap hide>235\|00:21:19\|060\|00:21:23\|260</wrap>the slaughter in the slaughterhouses, is a Martian process <wrap hide>236\|00:21:24\|520\|00:21:29\|060</wrap>rather than a transformational Pluto — Plutonian process. <wrap hide>237\|00:21:30\|320\|00:21:32\|900</wrap>The veils are shed. <wrap hide>238\|00:21:32\|900\|00:21:35\|620</wrap>The veils are penetrated by Pluto. <wrap hide>239\|00:21:36\|880\|00:21:42\|180</wrap>This is not so much the case with Mars, but the battles — <wrap hide>240\|00:21:42\|880\|00:21:46\|300</wrap>the pre-revelatory battles of Mars do wear away <wrap hide>241\|00:21:47\|200\|00:21:53\|360</wrap>the veils so that revelation can come, the types of revelation we spoke of earlier. <wrap hide>242\|00:21:55\|040\|00:22:00\|600</wrap>So anyway, the personality and its consciousness are obscured. <wrap hide>243\|00:22:02\|520\|00:22:06\|040</wrap>Christ, we know, are told, he harrowed hell. <wrap hide>244\|00:22:08\|220\|00:22:12\|680</wrap>The story goes that after his crucifixion — <wrap hide>245\|00:22:14\|020\|00:22:17\|740</wrap>of course, it was technically the master Jesus who was crucified — <wrap hide>246\|00:22:18\|680\|00:22:22\|920</wrap>the Christ went into the hell worlds, I suppose, of the astral plane <wrap hide>247\|00:22:23\|620\|00:22:30\|240</wrap>and brought forth those who could respond to his message. <wrap hide>248\|00:22:30\|600\|00:22:35\|760</wrap>And the Tibetan has assured us that our own lower world that we can virtually live in <wrap hide>249\|00:22:35\|760\|00:22:39\|360</wrap>is a far greater hell — hell in its truest sense. <wrap hide>250\|00:22:39\|360\|00:22:44\|460</wrap>So the very coming of Christ, working through the master Jesus, <wrap hide>251\|00:22:44\|460\|00:22:50\|160</wrap>was a harrowing of our physical plane life — <wrap hide>252\|00:22:50\|940\|00:22:56\|240</wrap>the hellishness of it — and the drawing forth magnetically and through the power of love <wrap hide>253\|00:22:56\|240\|00:23:00\|600</wrap>of those who could follow him into higher worlds. <wrap hide>254\|00:23:02\|020\|00:23:05\|320</wrap>So anyway, the old commentary that we've just discussed, <wrap hide>255\|00:23:05\|320\|00:23:07\|300</wrap><wrap quote>The connection of these words with Christ, <wrap hide>256\|00:23:08\|140\|00:23:11\|860</wrap>the present world Saviour, </wrap>as there are many, many to come as well — <wrap hide>257\|00:23:11\|860\|00:23:16\|640</wrap><wrap quote>is obvious in their implications,</wrap> <wrap hide>258\|00:23:18\|500\|00:23:21\|680</wrap>Christ ascended to the throne of God, and he, <wrap hide>259\|00:23:21\|680\|00:23:26\|940</wrap>as the savior, he drew many after him in that direction. <wrap hide>260\|00:23:28\|620\|00:23:33\|380</wrap>So — <wrap quote>and yet they were written in our archives </wrap><wrap hide>261\|00:23:33\|380\|00:23:37\|840</wrap>the Masters' archives <wrap quote>over seven thousand years ago.</wrap> <wrap hide>262\|00:23:38\|720\|00:23:42\|740</wrap>So D.K. is writing at the end of the Age of Pisces, pretty much. <wrap hide>263\|00:23:43\|960\|00:23:45\|720</wrap>And we might consider <wrap hide>264\|00:23:48\|740\|00:23:55\|820</wrap>the 7,000 years would bring him into the Age of Aries, into the Age of Taurus. <wrap hide>265\|00:23:57\|800\|00:24:03\|200</wrap>And either at the beginning of the Age of Taurus or the end of the Age of Gemini, <wrap hide>266\|00:24:03\|200\|00:24:08\|800</wrap>it would seem, if we look at ages as approximately 2,160 years, <wrap hide>267\|00:24:10\|420\|00:24:16\|840</wrap>or actually still more approximately 2,500 years ago, <wrap hide>268\|00:24:16\|840\|00:24:22\|620</wrap>we may be beginning the Age of Taurus or ending the Age of Gemini. <wrap hide>269\|00:24:22\|620\|00:24:28\|800</wrap>These are the shorter precessional ages, not the long ones of some 25,000 years. <wrap hide>270\|00:24:28\|800\|00:24:35\|680</wrap>It would seem that during the Age of Gemini, much of importance to the Hierarchy <wrap hide>271\|00:24:36\|520\|00:24:43\|700</wrap>would be written, as Mercury and Gemini are both signs of written communication, <wrap hide>272\|00:24:43\|700\|00:24:45\|060</wrap>and placed in the archives. <wrap hide>273\|00:24:45\|760\|00:24:51\|800</wrap>We don't know what culture, in which culture this may have occurred. <wrap hide>274\|00:24:55\|800\|00:24:57\|080</wrap>It's worth pondering. <wrap hide>275\|00:24:58\|200\|00:25:04\|260</wrap>I think that what we find in the ancient archives has come from <wrap hide>276\|00:25:05\|480\|00:25:07\|020</wrap>many different ages. <wrap hide>277\|00:25:07\|020\|00:25:11\|840</wrap>D.K. talks about writings that are Atlantean in their origin, <wrap hide>278\|00:25:11\|840\|00:25:17\|080</wrap>that are older than Sanskrit, even older than the language Senzar. <wrap hide>279\|00:25:17\|960\|00:25:30\|580</wrap>Probably in this archive are contents that may have even been contributed during the Lemurian root race. <wrap hide>280\|00:25:32\|260\|00:25:34\|740</wrap>So one day these things will be made clear to us. <wrap hide>281\|00:25:34\|740\|00:25:40\|820</wrap>Right now our task is to utilize what is presented to us in the best possible manner <wrap hide>282\|00:25:41\|740\|00:25:47\|660</wrap>to achieve our own freedom and the freedom of all those we can influence. <wrap hide>283\|00:25:51\|480\|00:25:54\|080</wrap><wrap quote>Death in Scorpio is of a different nature <wrap hide>284\|00:25:55\|860\|00:25:59\|240</wrap>and is also described in the same ancient writing in the following words:</wrap> <wrap hide>285\|00:25:59\|240\|00:26:02\|200</wrap>So we've just been dealing with death in Pisces. <wrap hide>286\|00:26:02\|200\|00:26:10\|300</wrap>It involves the later initiations in a way, released from the human kingdom altogether. <wrap hide>287\|00:26:11\|160\|00:26:15\|640</wrap>It is the death through which a world savior passes. <wrap hide>288\|00:26:17\|180\|00:26:24\|700</wrap>It reminds us of the idea that the final incarnation for some few acting very much on the will aspect <wrap hide>289\|00:26:25\|320\|00:26:27\|100</wrap>is taken in Pisces. <wrap hide>290\|00:26:27\|100\|00:26:36\|620</wrap>And there's a lot of finality and climax in what we have read above here, <wrap hide>291\|00:26:37\|180\|00:26:49\|080</wrap>as Pisces seems to give way to Aries, where the ancient one sits upon his throne on the very highest plane, the Logoic plane. <wrap hide>292\|00:26:50\|030\|00:26:54\|530</wrap>Now he talks about the death in Scorpio. <wrap hide>293\|00:26:56\|010\|00:27:04\|970</wrap>The <wrap quote>"... Ancient One dies by drowning.</wrap> I suppose he is surrounded—well, let me read it first and then we'll analyze it. <wrap hide>294\|00:27:07\|130\|00:27:12\|010</wrap>"The ancient one dies by drowning, <wrap quote>Such is the test.</wrap>—there's that word. <wrap hide>295\|00:27:12\|510\|00:27:15\|830</wrap><wrap quote>The waters envelop him and there is no escape. He drowns. <wrap hide>1\|00:00:02\|480\|00:00:10\|320</wrap>The fires of passion are then quenched. <wrap hide>1\|00:00:02\|480\|00:00:10\|320</wrap>The life of desire ceases its appeal <wrap hide>298\|00:27:24\|950\|00:27:30\|450</wrap>and to the bottom of the lake he now descends.</wrap> <wrap hide>299\|00:27:30\|450\|00:27:32\|650</wrap>It's not an ocean anymore, is it? <wrap hide>300\|00:27:33\|130\|00:27:38\|850</wrap><wrap quote>Later, he re-ascends to Earth where the white horse waits his coming. <wrap hide>301\|00:27:38\|850\|00:27:44\|450</wrap>aAnd this he mounts, proceeding towards the second death" <wrap hide>302\|00:27:46\|030\|00:27:48\|890</wrap>(that is, towards Pisces).</wrap> <wrap hide>303\|00:27:49\|610\|00:27:52\|850</wrap>So there is the death of the personality here, <wrap hide>304\|00:27:53\|510\|00:27:56\|790</wrap>or at least the death of the emotional vehicle and its desire body. <wrap hide>305\|00:27:59\|070\|00:28:07\|030</wrap>And a preparation for the more ultimate death which leads to the release from the fourth kingdom of nature. Already, <wrap hide>306\|00:28:07\|030\|00:28:13\|950</wrap>we're not there yet when we're talking about Scorpio, which is ruling the first three initiations and the second one particularly. <wrap hide>307\|00:28:15\|010\|00:28:21\|110</wrap>So the ancient one is submerged in the waters of the astral plane. <wrap hide>308\|00:28:23\|450\|00:28:33\|670</wrap>And all of the ancient emotional impulses surround him; he's completely engulfed. He drowns. <wrap hide>309\|00:28:33\|670\|00:28:39\|390</wrap>But the fires of passion for lesser things are quenched, <wrap hide>310\|00:28:41\|090\|00:28:48\|470</wrap>and he is purified of his desire for that which holds him to the earth. <wrap hide>311\|00:28:49\|790\|00:28:55\|450</wrap>Mars and the fire of passion in Aries is a different type of burning, <wrap hide>312\|00:28:55\|450\|00:29:01\|670</wrap>and even Mars as it operates for the average individual in the sign Scorpio, <wrap hide>313\|00:29:01\|670\|00:29:05\|110</wrap>where desire can become incredibly insistent, <wrap hide>314\|00:29:06\|370\|00:29:10\|330</wrap>is also different from the state that is here described. <wrap hide>315\|00:29:11\|670\|00:29:19\|330</wrap>So the usual passions are quenched by this experience, this emotional experience, <wrap hide>316\|00:29:20\|230\|00:29:24\|330</wrap>this submergence in all of the promptings of the astral plane, <wrap hide>317\|00:29:25\|490\|00:29:29\|150</wrap>which are seen then as wanting. <wrap hide>318\|00:29:31\|910\|00:29:40\|050</wrap>And he realizes that these very desires have been holding him to the lowest worlds. <wrap hide>319\|00:29:41\|110\|00:29:45\|270</wrap>So they are seen as no longer appealing; he dies to them. <wrap hide>320\|00:29:45\|930\|00:29:54\|250</wrap>This is what it means to have the death of the desire nature at the second initiation. <wrap hide>321\|00:29:54\|250\|00:29:57\|530</wrap>I think it's pretty much the second initiation that we're dealing with, <wrap hide>322\|00:29:57\|530\|00:30:03\|110</wrap>specifically, but we can apply it across the board really to all three initiations. <wrap hide>323\|00:30:03\|930\|00:30:07\|690</wrap>The life of ordinary desire ceases its appeal, <wrap hide>324\|00:30:08\|830\|00:30:14\|050</wrap>and to the bottom of the lake, I suppose the astral body, he now descends, <wrap hide>325\|00:30:14\|610\|00:30:16\|690</wrap>finding all kinds of things there <wrap hide>326\|00:30:18\|210\|00:30:20\|090</wrap>which have to be dealt with, <wrap hide>327\|00:30:20\|770\|00:30:23\|850</wrap>which have to be raised up and expiated, <wrap hide>328\|00:30:25\|270\|00:30:25\|910</wrap>transformed. <wrap hide>329\|00:30:27\|530\|00:30:34\|170</wrap>The Scorpio individual discovers the depths of evil within his own nature, <wrap hide>330\|00:30:35\|550\|00:30:38\|350</wrap>and no stone is left unturned <wrap hide>331\|00:30:39\|270\|00:30:40\|830</wrap>when passing through this— <wrap hide>332\|00:30:42\|430\|00:30:45\|970</wrap>well, let's call it in general a psychoanalytic process. <wrap hide>333\|00:30:46\|610\|00:30:53\|790</wrap>The contents of the psyche are seen, analyzed, lifted up and expiated. <wrap hide>334\|00:30:55\|370\|00:31:02\|310</wrap>So he goes through dealing with his emotional life and tries to, tends to <wrap hide>335\|00:31:02\|870\|00:31:07\|470</wrap>reorient his desire nature because he no longer wants what is presented to him. <wrap hide>336\|00:31:07\|470\|00:31:12\|090</wrap>His sense of values, his sense of values has been altered. <wrap hide>337\|00:31:12\|770\|00:31:19\|610</wrap>He realizes that he is drowning, that he's in hell, that there is a higher and better life. <wrap hide>338\|00:31:19\|610\|00:31:21\|650</wrap>Later he reascends to earth. <wrap hide>339\|00:31:26\|030\|00:31:29\|070</wrap>Interestingly, Sagittarius, the sign of the white horse, <wrap hide>340\|00:31:29\|690\|00:31:32\|470</wrap>is ruled esoterically by the earth. <wrap hide>341\|00:31:32\|470\|00:31:39\|950</wrap>So after passing through this psychological internal subtle body crisis, <wrap hide>342\|00:31:40\|690\|00:31:44\|190</wrap>he can again become effective upon the physical plane <wrap hide>343\|00:31:44\|190\|00:31:48\|150</wrap>and no longer preoccupied with all <wrap hide>344\|00:31:50\|850\|00:31:54\|750</wrap>that emotional drowning implies. <wrap hide>345\|00:31:56\|230\|00:31:59\|630</wrap>It's a huge test to be surrounded by <wrap hide>346\|00:32:00\|410\|00:32:03\|190</wrap>the errant desires of the ages <wrap hide>347\|00:32:03\|190\|00:32:07\|810</wrap>which have been concealed during the ages, <wrap hide>348\|00:32:07\|810\|00:32:13\|250</wrap>so that one doesn't even know that this aspect of the hydra really is lurking. <wrap hide>349\|00:32:14\|090\|00:32:16\|550</wrap>When revealed, one has a tremendous battle. <wrap hide>350\|00:32:18\|250\|00:32:23\|890</wrap>And that's why the second initiation is so very difficult to pass. <wrap hide>351\|00:32:23\|890\|00:32:26\|470</wrap>The astral body is so very strong and unified— <wrap hide>352\|00:32:26\|470\|00:32:33\|550</wrap>the only one of the human being's lower bodies that it actually is unified. <wrap hide>353\|00:32:33\|550\|00:32:36\|470</wrap>There is a split upon the physical plane: <wrap hide>354\|00:32:37\|150\|00:32:41\|390</wrap>physically-etheric. There is a split upon the mental plane: lower mind, higher mind. <wrap hide>355\|00:32:42\|230\|00:32:44\|770</wrap>So the white horse is awaiting his coming, <wrap hide>356\|00:32:46\|210\|00:32:48\|890</wrap>especially following the second initiation, <wrap hide>357\|00:32:48\|890\|00:32:53\|870</wrap>and this amounts to proceeding towards the second death. <wrap hide>358\|00:32:55\|490\|00:32:59\|970</wrap>And I'm reminded here of what is said <wrap hide>359\|00:33:03\|110\|00:33:10\|010</wrap>about the relation of Sagittarius to Pisces. <wrap hide>360\|00:33:11\|150\|00:33:12\|730</wrap>Let's see. <wrap hide>361\|00:33:13\|850\|00:33:22\|010</wrap>Sagittarius—and it says here, "Sagittarius the disciple becomes the savior in Pisces." <wrap hide>362\|00:33:22\|010\|00:33:27\|310</wrap>So there is an orientation in these two Jupiterian signs— <wrap hide>363\|00:33:29\|190\|00:33:37\|430</wrap>the orientation of Sagittarius towards Pisces just as it says here in the old commentary. <wrap hide>364\|00:33:41\|770\|00:33:46\|510</wrap>Of course, as I said before, Scorpio is involved in all the three first initiations, <wrap hide>365\|00:33:46\|510\|00:33:49\|130</wrap>and Sagittarius especially in the first two. <wrap hide>366\|00:33:49\|130\|00:33:57\|110</wrap>But I think we're talking about a period here in which the purified individual, <wrap hide>367\|00:33:59\|110\|00:34:04\|550</wrap>having relinquished, having died to the normal life of desire, <wrap hide>368\|00:34:05\|730\|00:34:07\|490</wrap>becomes intensely aspiring. <wrap hide>369\|00:34:08\|790\|00:34:12\|430</wrap>And Sagittarius is one of the major signs of aspiration, <wrap hide>370\|00:34:13\|790\|00:34:15\|830</wrap>interestingly along with Taurus. <wrap hide>371\|00:34:17\|770\|00:34:22\|770</wrap>And here he rides in a balanced manner <wrap hide>372\|00:34:24\|310\|00:34:28\|490</wrap>towards the possibilities of the third great initiation. <wrap hide>373\|00:34:31\|050\|00:34:38\|210</wrap>We're told that the third initiation is not approached necessarily from the heights of aspiration, <wrap hide>374\|00:34:38\|210\|00:34:40\|770</wrap>but from the level table land. <wrap hide>375\|00:34:40\|770\|00:34:50\|330</wrap>And across this level table land, the mounted disciple, mounted upon the white horse of the purified personality, rides with speed. <wrap hide>376\|00:34:52\|650\|00:34:59\|530</wrap>So he moves rapidly towards the third initiation. <wrap hide>377\|00:34:59\|530\|00:35:03\|530</wrap>And if we're speaking of the period that follows the third initiation, <wrap hide>378\|00:35:04\|290\|00:35:06\|410</wrap>Sagittarius can be very orienting <wrap hide>379\|00:35:07\|370\|00:35:15\|410</wrap>towards the fourth degree, which can be taken in relation to the sign Pisces as well as other signs. <wrap hide>380\|00:35:16\|310\|00:35:19\|450</wrap>Gemini is interestingly involved there. <wrap hide>381\|00:35:20\|690\|00:35:25\|910</wrap>A number of the signs can be found—Capricorn, Taurus, so forth— <wrap hide>382\|00:35:26\|410\|00:35:30\|470</wrap>connected with this fourth initiation. <wrap hide>383\|00:35:33\|390\|00:35:35\|550</wrap>So there are many implications here, <wrap hide>384\|00:35:35\|550\|00:35:41\|590</wrap>but we see we undergo a tremendous subtle body purification. <wrap hide>385\|00:35:42\|490\|00:35:49\|330</wrap>Kama-manas is purified—not only the astral nature but the way the mind is involved with the astral nature. <wrap hide>386\|00:35:49\|330\|00:35:53\|910</wrap>A reorientation occurs; lower desires are relinquished. <wrap hide>387\|00:35:53\|910\|00:35:57\|390</wrap>the lower fires of ordinary passion die out. <wrap hide>388\|00:35:57\|390\|00:35:59\|270</wrap>Aspiration takes its place, <wrap hide>389\|00:36:00\|480\|00:36:06\|510</wrap>and a speedy one-pointed progress of the one-pointed disciple towards higher destinations <wrap hide>390\|00:36:07\|930\|00:36:15\|790</wrap>takes the place of the struggles within the depths that are common to Scorpio. <wrap hide>391\|00:36:15\|790\|00:36:20\|170</wrap>So we've been given the ancient commentary here, <wrap hide>392\|00:36:20\|170\|00:36:29\|570</wrap>and we see in a way that the kind of death indicated by the first of the commentaries is a higher death <wrap hide>393\|00:36:30\|390\|00:36:35\|350</wrap>and really deals with ultimate release from the human kingdom altogether <wrap hide>394\|00:36:35\|350\|00:36:37\|870</wrap>and release into the kingdom of God as a full member <wrap hide>395\|00:36:37\|870\|00:36:45\|390</wrap>and finally a release into Shambhala itself, with which Pisces is associated just as is Aries. <wrap hide>396\|00:36:47\|130\|00:36:49\|610</wrap>The kind of death we're dealing with here, <wrap hide>397\|00:36:53\|870\|00:37:00\|110</wrap>the death by drowning in the ordinary passions, is of a lower nature <wrap hide>398\|00:37:00\|110\|00:37:10\|910</wrap>but still gives us the initiatory orientation and orients us towards the third degree and beyond. <wrap hide>399\|00:37:13\|110\|00:37:18\|660</wrap>So much is compressed within the old commentary. <wrap hide>400\|00:37:18\|990\|00:37:24\|210</wrap>We see a number of different possible applications, <wrap hide>401\|00:37:24\|210\|00:37:29\|380</wrap>and we try to bring them forward for our consideration. <wrap hide>402\|00:37:31\|190\|00:37:34\|710</wrap>All of us at this time are supposed to be the one-pointed disciple, <wrap hide>403\|00:37:34\|710\|00:37:39\|470</wrap>whether or not we are experiencing an incarnation in Sagittarius. <wrap hide>404\|00:37:39\|470\|00:37:41\|430</wrap>Perhaps we already have; perhaps it's coming. <wrap hide>405\|00:37:43\|130\|00:37:52\|850</wrap>We don't yet know the astrological configurations of our immediate previous lives <wrap hide>406\|00:37:52\|850\|00:37:55\|230</wrap>and our immediate succeeding lives, <wrap hide>407\|00:37:55\|230\|00:38:01\|530</wrap>but no doubt an examination of these configurations <wrap hide>408\|00:38:02\|690\|00:38:08\|290</wrap>and an anticipation of what they will be, as the solar angel knows them <wrap hide>409\|00:38:08\|710\|00:38:11\|510</wrap>to be impending, would be most interesting. <wrap hide>410\|00:38:12\|970\|00:38:18\|770</wrap>So <wrap quote>The reference here to Sagittarius is clear.</wrap> says the Tibetan, is here to Sagittarius. It's clear, of course, <wrap hide>411\|00:38:18\|770\|00:38:19\|610</wrap>that's the white horse. <wrap hide>412\|00:38:20\|570\|00:38:23\|810</wrap>Just like the black bull and the white bull— <wrap hide>413\|00:38:24\|670\|00:38:30\|030</wrap>if we're going to ride the bull to the, I suppose, the swimming bull <wrap hide>414\|00:38:30\|970\|00:38:35\|050</wrap>to the island of the one-eyed men and become the true third degree initiate, <wrap hide>415\|00:38:35\|050\|00:38:38\|330</wrap>it has to be the white bull, doesn't it? <wrap hide>416\|00:38:39\|010\|00:38:44\|030</wrap><wrap quote>The disciple—after the death of the personality and after the killing out of desire—</wrap> <wrap hide>417\|00:38:44\|030\|00:38:50\|430</wrap>but since the personality is so very much centered in the solar plexus <wrap hide>418\|00:38:50\|430\|00:38:52\|130</wrap>and involves kama-manas, <wrap hide>419\|00:38:52\|130\|00:38:56\|510</wrap>sometimes the second degree is called the death of the personality, <wrap hide>420\|00:38:57\|110\|00:39:07\|970</wrap>though it seems to me there is a type of personality death which relates to the third degree <wrap hide>421\|00:39:09\|610\|00:39:13\|610</wrap>at which degree the personality loses its ancient authority <wrap hide>422\|00:39:14\|030\|00:39:16\|710</wrap>over the consciousness of the disciple. <wrap hide>423\|00:39:18\|230\|00:39:24\|530</wrap>And an actual physical plane death may be involved at the fourth degree, <wrap hide>424\|00:39:24\|530\|00:39:28\|310</wrap>where the dweller, the personality, is completely sacrificed <wrap hide>425\|00:39:29\|270\|00:39:34\|530</wrap>on behalf of humanity and its needs. <wrap hide>426\|00:39:37\|050\|00:39:40\|470</wrap>So when we're dealing with the moon and Scorpio, <wrap hide>427\|00:39:41\|110\|00:39:42\|690</wrap>dealing with the second degree, <wrap hide>428\|00:39:42\|690\|00:39:46\|950</wrap>I sometimes wonder whether the entire personality is killed out <wrap hide>429\|00:39:46\|950\|00:39:49\|310</wrap>or whether we have to wait a bit longer for that to happen. <wrap hide>430\|00:39:49\|310\|00:39:52\|900</wrap>But certainly the desires, the lower desires, are relinquished, <wrap hide>431\|00:39:53\|330\|00:39:56\|130</wrap>and higher desires take their place. <wrap hide>432\|00:39:56\|130\|00:40:00\|630</wrap>There are still tests, personality tests, which lie ahead <wrap hide>433\|00:40:01\|450\|00:40:04\|670</wrap>which, I think, demonstrate that the personality is alive and well, <wrap hide>434\|00:40:04\|670\|00:40:08\|770</wrap>but at least its very lowest orientations are relinquished, <wrap hide>435\|00:40:08\|770\|00:40:12\|770</wrap>and very rapid progress can be made after the second degree. We are told <wrap hide>436\|00:40:12\|770\|00:40:17\|830</wrap>the disciple enters the stream and is purified in that stream <wrap hide>437\|00:40:17\|830\|00:40:21\|390</wrap>and is swept along by the current of that stream. <wrap hide>438\|00:40:22\|530\|00:40:27\|350</wrap>So the disciple, after the death of the personality and after the killing out of desire, <wrap hide>439\|00:40:28\|510\|00:40:30\|210</wrap>each related to the other, <wrap hide>440\|00:40:30\|210\|00:40:33\|310</wrap><wrap quote>goes on towards Pisces where again he dies <wrap hide>441\|00:40:33\|850\|00:40:36\|850</wrap>"unto an eternal resurrection."</wrap> <wrap hide>442\|00:40:36\|850\|00:40:43\|670</wrap>a resurrection into the true life of the realization of eternity, <wrap hide>443\|00:40:43\|670\|00:40:47\|190</wrap>which is soul perception and triadic perception. <wrap hide>444\|00:40:47\|930\|00:40:55\|010</wrap>And he is no longer condemned to the limitations of personality consciousness <wrap hide>445\|00:40:56\|670\|00:41:01\|910</wrap>which obscure the eternal nature of life <wrap hide>446\|00:41:01\|910\|00:41:10\|970</wrap>and make us believe in our own death because the personality is dying. <wrap hide>447\|00:41:12\|310\|00:41:16\|110</wrap><wrap quote>In Scorpio there is the death of the personality, <wrap hide>448\|00:41:16\|990\|00:41:20\|010</wrap>with its longings, desires, ambitions and pride.</wrap> <wrap hide>449\|00:41:20\|010\|00:41:25\|850</wrap>So some emotional factors are included here, <wrap hide>450\|00:41:25\|850\|00:41:30\|950</wrap>but also mental factors and factors arising from the mixing <wrap hide>451\|00:41:31\|910\|00:41:37\|210</wrap>the mama monastic mixing of mind and desire, ambition and pride. <wrap hide>452\|00:41:41\|710\|00:41:49\|110</wrap>Although ambition or the love of power is relegated to the emotional heads of the hydra, <wrap hide>453\|00:41:49\|110\|00:41:51\|330</wrap>and pride to the mental heads, <wrap hide>454\|00:41:51\|330\|00:41:56\|030</wrap>so the different aspects of the personality, we have to die to them <wrap hide>455\|00:41:56\|930\|00:41:59\|450</wrap>if there is to be the death of the personality altogether. <wrap hide>456\|00:41:59\|450\|00:42:06\|530</wrap>And I would say it's far more complete at the third degree than it is at the second, <wrap hide>457\|00:42:07\|070\|00:42:10\|410</wrap>though maybe the greatest of the battles occurs at the second degree <wrap hide>458\|00:42:10\|410\|00:42:14\|170</wrap>because the astral body is generically so strong. <wrap hide>459\|00:42:15\|610\|00:42:21\|810</wrap>In Scorpio there is the death of the personality with its longings, desires, ambition and pride. <wrap hide>460\|00:42:21\|810\|00:42:25\|910</wrap>We learn a true humility. Hercules does kneel, does he not? <wrap hide>461\|00:42:25\|910\|00:42:30\|810</wrap>And Capricorn is connected with the kneeling process as well: <wrap hide>462\|00:42:30\|810\|00:42:36\|470</wrap>the great pilgrimage undertaken upon one's knees, <wrap hide>463\|00:42:37\|950\|00:42:41\|990</wrap>without being able to locomote, <wrap hide>464\|00:42:43\|470\|00:42:50\|250</wrap>definitely limiting one's speed in a deliberate manner, <wrap hide>465\|00:42:50\|990\|00:42:53\|170</wrap>handicapping oneself in a way. <wrap hide>466\|00:42:53\|990\|00:42:59\|090</wrap>The handicap seems to refer to the arms and the hands, <wrap hide>467\|00:42:59\|090\|00:43:04\|750</wrap>but cutting off at the knees is also a kind of handicap, isn't it? <wrap hide>468\|00:43:05\|670\|00:43:09\|910</wrap>In Scorpio there is the death of the personality with its longings, desires, ambition and pride. <wrap hide>469\|00:43:09\|910\|00:43:14\|390</wrap><wrap quote>In Pisces there is the death of all attachments <wrap hide>470\|00:43:16\|250\|00:43:19\|490</wrap>and the liberation of the soul <wrap hide>471\|00:43:19\|490\|00:43:23\|790</wrap>for service upon an universal scale.</wrap> <wrap hide>472\|00:43:24\|350\|00:43:32\|770</wrap>And that cannot be—this scale cannot be achieved <wrap hide>473\|00:43:33\|390\|00:43:39\|450</wrap>until the fourth and even better the fifth degree. <wrap hide>474\|00:43:40\|570\|00:43:46\|710</wrap>The fourth degree is often taken in Aquarius. <wrap hide>475\|00:43:46\|710\|00:43:50\|110</wrap>Aquarius can be taken in Pisces too. <wrap hide>476\|00:43:50\|110\|00:43:55\|410</wrap>Aquarius is the sign of universality, universal love. <wrap hide>477\|00:43:57\|630\|00:44:03\|090</wrap>So we're not just speaking of service to our immediate environment <wrap hide>478\|00:44:03\|090\|00:44:05\|970</wrap>and those who are near us, <wrap hide>479\|00:44:06\|520\|00:44:12\|750</wrap>but we're speaking as well of service on a grander scale to humanity <wrap hide>480\|00:44:12\|750\|00:44:19\|170</wrap>and to the planet and eventually even beyond to the solar system. <wrap hide>481\|00:44:20\|270\|00:44:23\|010</wrap>Two types of death, I think that's— <wrap hide>482\|00:44:23\|690\|00:44:27\|850</wrap>one is in a way the death of the personality in Scorpio. <wrap hide>483\|00:44:29\|610\|00:44:33\|070</wrap>But the ancient one, interestingly enough, <wrap hide>484\|00:44:33\|610\|00:44:37\|930</wrap>can also be considered the consciousness within the causal body— <wrap hide>485\|00:44:37\|930\|00:44:39\|110</wrap>ancient indeed, <wrap hide>486\|00:44:40\|470\|00:44:45\|050</wrap>having been our place of retreat <wrap hide>487\|00:44:45\|050\|00:44:47\|990</wrap>for millions upon millions of years. <wrap hide>488\|00:44:47\|990\|00:44:53\|570</wrap>And that ancient one eventually dies. <wrap hide>489\|00:44:54\|190\|00:44:57\|150</wrap>Consciousness limited by the causal body dies <wrap hide>490\|00:44:57\|150\|00:45:00\|530</wrap>and is released into the realms of universality, <wrap hide>491\|00:45:00\|530\|00:45:05\|310</wrap>which, for our purposes, as humanity can appreciate universality, <wrap hide>492\|00:45:06\|490\|00:45:09\|090</wrap>those realms are the cosmic ethers. <wrap hide>493\|00:45:10\|130\|00:45:12\|470</wrap>He goes on to say that <wrap quote>Christ, in Pisces, <wrap hide>494\|00:45:14\|270\|00:45:18\|110</wrap>exemplified the substitution of love for attachment.</wrap> <wrap hide>495\|00:45:18\|890\|00:45:23\|250</wrap>And of course the Buddha also relinquished attachment <wrap hide>496\|00:45:23\|970\|00:45:28\|510</wrap>and substituted for it a great and profound wisdom, <wrap hide>497\|00:45:28\|510\|00:45:30\|270</wrap>not devoid of love at all, <wrap hide>498\|00:45:30\|270\|00:45:36\|310</wrap>but the greater emphasis for the Christ was upon the love energy per se, <wrap hide>499\|00:45:36\|310\|00:45:38\|510</wrap>the love side of the love-wisdom energy. <wrap hide>500\|00:45:39\|110\|00:45:47\|470</wrap>So Christ in Pisces exemplified the substitution of love for attachment. <wrap hide>501\|00:45:48\|370\|00:45:51\|110</wrap>And it's such an interesting thing that <wrap hide>502\|00:45:52\|150\|00:45:57\|430</wrap>the release of the radiation of true love does overcome attachment. <wrap hide>503\|00:45:57\|430\|00:46:02\|010</wrap>So often we, the personality, in our personality identification, <wrap hide>504\|00:46:02\|010\|00:46:05\|850</wrap>attempt to pry ourselves loose from our attachments, <wrap hide>505\|00:46:05\|850\|00:46:09\|110</wrap>but we are then working strictly on the personality level <wrap hide>506\|00:46:09\|110\|00:46:15\|910</wrap>with far less opportunity for success—likelihood of success. <wrap hide>507\|00:46:16\|630\|00:46:19\|530</wrap>When we change our identification to a soul identification <wrap hide>508\|00:46:19\|530\|00:46:22\|670</wrap>and can actually be love, <wrap hide>509\|00:46:24\|030\|00:46:29\|690</wrap>then our attachments fall more naturally away. <wrap hide>510\|00:46:31\|490\|00:46:34\|940</wrap>So, the substitution of love for attachment. <wrap hide>511\|00:46:35\|650\|00:46:39\|770</wrap>I think we have to pass through the sixth ray phase <wrap hide>512\|00:46:40\|530\|00:46:46\|090</wrap>as it is transformed into the second ray phase <wrap hide>513\|00:46:46\|090\|00:46:49\|450</wrap>in order to understand this substitution. <wrap hide>514\|00:46:50\|350\|00:46:54\|790</wrap><wrap quote> Christianity </wrap> here under the sixth ray as he's discussing, <wrap hide>515\|00:46:54\|790\|00:46:57\|790</wrap><wrap quote>exemplifies the death of the personality, <wrap hide>516\|00:46:59\|310\|00:47:04\|310</wrap>with individual and not universal implications</wrap> <wrap hide>517\|00:47:06\|110\|00:47:16\|410</wrap>So we first have to learn to abide the death of that with which we have identified <wrap hide>518\|00:47:16\|410\|00:47:21\|310</wrap>for so many millions of years before we can be released into <wrap hide>519\|00:47:21\|870\|00:47:26\|950</wrap>a more universal state of consciousness and effectiveness. <wrap hide>520\|00:47:28\|370\|00:47:30\|250</wrap>And this is quite a statement here. <wrap hide>521\|00:47:30\|730\|00:47:37\|950</wrap>You know, it is said to the sixth ray type in the <wrap hide>522\|00:47:38\|710\|00:47:41\|470</wrap>sixth ray integration formula: "Love more <wrap hide>523\|00:47:42\|110\|00:47:44\|810</wrap>your fellow men. Run not so straight <wrap hide>524\|00:47:44\|810\|00:47:48\|870</wrap>the path. You are on leads to the outer circle of the will of God. <wrap hide>525\|00:47:48\|870\|00:47:50\|910</wrap>The line goes forward to the outer rim. <wrap hide>526\|00:47:51\|930\|00:47:54\|030</wrap>Stand at the center. Look on every side. <wrap hide>527\|00:47:54\|030\|00:47:56\|910</wrap>Die not for outer forms. <wrap hide>528\|00:47:59\|230\|00:48:02\|950</wrap>Forget not God who dwells behind the vision. <wrap hide>529\|00:48:02\|950\|00:48:05\|210</wrap>Love more your fellow men." <wrap hide>530\|00:48:07\|630\|00:48:12\|070</wrap>So, one may love the ideal without loving one's fellow human beings, <wrap hide>531\|00:48:12\|070\|00:48:14\|550</wrap>and here is what the Tibetan says: <wrap hide>532\|00:48:14\|550\|00:48:17\|470</wrap><wrap quote>love has been conspicuously lacking <wrap hide>533\|00:48:19\|070\|00:48:22\|790</wrap>and the controlling colour of Christianity has indeed <wrap hide>534\|00:48:22\|790\|00:48:27\|430</wrap>been red.</wrap>—Martian red." <wrap hide>535\|00:48:27\|430\|00:48:30\|890</wrap>Not something that we're used to thinking about, <wrap hide>536\|00:48:30\|890\|00:48:34\|310</wrap>perhaps at Easter time or Christmas time, <wrap hide>537\|00:48:34\|310\|00:48:40\|210</wrap>when the love energy is flooding the consciousness of the worshippers. <wrap hide>538\|00:48:40\|510\|00:48:43\|350</wrap>But if we look at this with historical accuracy, <wrap hide>539\|00:48:45\|310\|00:48:50\|050</wrap>then I think we will have to agree with the Tibetan. <wrap hide>540\|00:48:50\|050\|00:48:55\|510</wrap>And there is a karmic price to pay. <wrap hide>541\|00:48:55\|510\|00:48:56\|810</wrap>Some of it has been paid. <wrap hide>542\|00:48:56\|810\|00:48:59\|750</wrap>There is a karmic price to pay <wrap hide>543\|00:49:00\|790\|00:49:08\|990</wrap>for wielding this devoted, idealistic energy in a cruel manner <wrap hide>544\|00:49:08\|990\|00:49:10\|290</wrap>under the red of Mars. <wrap hide>545\|00:49:11\|210\|00:49:14\|090</wrap><wrap quote>It is not Christ's expression <wrap hide>546\|00:49:15\|010\|00:49:18\|130</wrap>but the Scorpio-Mars presentation of St. Paul.</wrap> <wrap hide>547\|00:49:20\|430\|00:49:24\|210</wrap>And D.K. really draws a line here, doesn't he? <wrap hide>548\|00:49:24\|890\|00:49:30\|410</wrap>Later, Saint Paul came into a tremendous realization of Buddhic love, <wrap hide>549\|00:49:30\|410\|00:49:34\|990</wrap>and even now he is working with the Buddhic energy, we are told, <wrap hide>550\|00:49:35\|930\|00:49:39\|930</wrap>with the revelation of that energy. Interesting for a fifth-ray chohan. <wrap hide>551\|00:49:41\|070\|00:49:46\|010</wrap>You know, our limited conceptions of the rays and their interactions <wrap hide>552\|00:49:46\|010\|00:49:48\|390</wrap>cannot fully reveal to us <wrap hide>553\|00:49:48\|390\|00:49:51\|550</wrap>what a master on any of these rays may do. <wrap hide>554\|00:49:52\|410\|00:49:56\|530</wrap>But it's been my theory that Paul, or Saul, <wrap hide>555\|00:49:57\|650\|00:50:03\|210</wrap>was a sixth-ray soul who made his transition into a second-ray soul <wrap hide>556\|00:50:03\|210\|00:50:07\|290</wrap>and then received this revelation of love. <wrap hide>557\|00:50:07\|290\|00:50:10\|190</wrap>Is it in the thirteenth chapter of Corinthians, <wrap hide>558\|00:50:10\|190\|00:50:14\|550</wrap>which stands out among all discussions of love <wrap hide>559\|00:50:14\|550\|00:50:19\|030</wrap>as the most profound revelation of the nature of love? <wrap hide>560\|00:50:20\|850\|00:50:24\|370</wrap>But the damage had been done, in a way, <wrap hide>561\|00:50:24\|370\|00:50:32\|630</wrap>and his zeal is what impressed Christianity, to a great measure. <wrap hide>562\|00:50:33\|810\|00:50:40\|310</wrap>And his later expression of the great value of love <wrap hide>563\|00:50:40\|310\|00:50:43\|370</wrap>has been somewhat de-emphasized, <wrap hide>564\|00:50:43\|370\|00:50:47\|490</wrap>except by those who really can understand the nature of the transitions <wrap hide>565\|00:50:47\|490\|00:50:48\|450</wrap>through which he passed. <wrap hide>566\|00:50:48\|450\|00:50:53\|570</wrap>So it is not Christ's expression, but the Scorpio-Mars presentation of Saint Paul. <wrap hide>567\|00:50:54\|710\|00:50:57\|630</wrap><wrap quote>Mars has ruled Christianity <wrap hide>568\|00:50:58\|690\|00:51:01\|590</wrap>because St. Paul misinterpreted <wrap hide>569\|00:51:03\|690\|00:51:08\|470</wrap>the esoteric significances of the New Testament message <wrap hide>570\|00:51:09\|670\|00:51:14\|030</wrap>and he misinterpreted because the truth—like all truths as they reach humanity— <wrap hide>571\|00:51:14\|810\|00:51:19\|250</wrap>had to pass through the filter of his personality mind and brain</wrap> <wrap hide>572\|00:51:21\|670\|00:51:26\|670</wrap>which was highly conditioned by Judaism and by Jewish theology, <wrap hide>573\|00:51:27\|550\|00:51:33\|730</wrap>and therefore by a method of thinking <wrap hide>574\|00:51:33\|730\|00:51:39\|610</wrap>which was prevalent in the previous solar system <wrap hide>575\|00:51:40\|530\|00:51:44\|630</wrap>and which was conditioned by the third aspect. <wrap hide>576\|00:51:44\|630\|00:51:54\|190</wrap>So in many ways, Saint Paul complicated the message of the founder of Christianity. <wrap hide>577\|00:51:56\|190\|00:51:58\|630</wrap>Misinterpretation—this means the lower mind. <wrap hide>578\|00:51:59\|710\|00:52:02\|530</wrap>Well, let's just say Saint Paul was subject to illusion. <wrap hide>579\|00:52:02\|530\|00:52:04\|270</wrap>He had not yet taken the third degree. <wrap hide>580\|00:52:05\|830\|00:52:12\|690</wrap>And illusion is, to a great extent, expelled or dispelled at the third degree, <wrap hide>581\|00:52:12\|690\|00:52:16\|550</wrap>though ultimately not until the ninth in terms of the cosmic physical plane, we are told. <wrap hide>582\|00:52:17\|310\|00:52:21\|810</wrap>But as far as the usual illusions in which humanity labors, <wrap hide>583\|00:52:22\|910\|00:52:25\|890</wrap>it is dispelled at the third degree. <wrap hide>584\|00:52:25\|890\|00:52:31\|990</wrap>And he had not yet taken that degree when the damage was being done— <wrap hide>585\|00:52:32\|530\|00:52:35\|490</wrap>the skewing, the misdirecting, the misinterpreting. <wrap hide>586\|00:52:37\|030\|00:52:43\|350</wrap>Probably every master has something along this line to live down <wrap hide>587\|00:52:45\|110\|00:52:50\|250</wrap>when he is not yet illumined in the third-degree sense <wrap hide>588\|00:52:50\|250\|00:52:55\|690</wrap>and with zeal presents a certain way of life or a certain teaching. <wrap hide>589\|00:52:56\|510\|00:53:02\|230</wrap>So the truth of the Christ was filtered through the personality, mind and brain <wrap hide>590\|00:53:02\|530\|00:53:07\|850</wrap>which was conditioned strongly by the ancient Jewish approach. <wrap hide>591\|00:53:09\|390\|00:53:14\|570</wrap>It was then unavoidably given a personal slant and twist <wrap hide>592\|00:53:14\|570\|00:53:18\|570</wrap>because after all, Saint Paul was passing through great struggles as a Scorpion type. <wrap hide>593\|00:53:19\|770\|00:53:24\|250</wrap>He gave us that struggling ray statement: <wrap hide>594\|00:53:25\|370\|00:53:28\|050</wrap>essentially this, that the good I would do I do not, <wrap hide>595\|00:53:28\|050\|00:53:31\|050</wrap>and the evil that I would not do, that I do. <wrap hide>596\|00:53:31\|050\|00:53:36\|550</wrap>So wretched man that I am, who will save me from the body of this death? <wrap hide>597\|00:53:39\|050\|00:53:45\|570</wrap>The emphasis then given to Christianity is one of the struggling disciple. <wrap hide>598\|00:53:45\|570\|00:53:51\|750</wrap>I am sure it has had its value, but the simple message of "love one another" <wrap hide>599\|00:53:53\|330\|00:53:56\|130</wrap>was not as strongly emphasized as it might be. <wrap hide>600\|00:53:57\|130\|00:54:02\|690</wrap>So then the truth of the Christ was unavoidably— he said— <wrap hide>601\|00:54:02\|690\|00:54:05\|830</wrap>because after all, we must pass through this area of limitation, <wrap hide>602\|00:54:05\|830\|00:54:09\|110</wrap>and we become enthusiastic about a particular way of life, <wrap hide>603\|00:54:09\|110\|00:54:11\|170</wrap>a particular teaching, and we want to present it, <wrap hide>604\|00:54:11\|770\|00:54:15\|190</wrap>and we do present it. <wrap hide>605\|00:54:15\|850\|00:54:21\|310</wrap>But what do we— what damage do we do in the presentation <wrap hide>606\|00:54:21\|310\|00:54:27\|510</wrap>due to our own illusions, our still undispelled glamours, <wrap hide>607\|00:54:28\|110\|00:54:31\|470</wrap>our undispelled glamours, our limitations of consciousness? <wrap hide>608\|00:54:32\|230\|00:54:35\|530</wrap>So <wrap quote>it was then unavoidably given a personal slant and twist <wrap hide>609\|00:54:36\|110\|00:54:42\|550</wrap>and this is responsible for the sorry historical story of Christianity <wrap hide>610\|00:54:43\|390\|00:54:45\|750</wrap>and the dire plight of the nations today—</wrap> <wrap hide>611\|00:54:45\|750\|00:54:50\|890</wrap>Well, he is laying a lot at Saint Paul's door, isn't he? <wrap hide>612\|00:54:52\|730\|00:54:56\|690</wrap>And I imagine that the Master Jesus as a warrior, as Joshua, <wrap hide>613\|00:54:57\|610\|00:55:02\|310</wrap>as a conqueror of the land, the promised land, <wrap hide>614\|00:55:02\|310\|00:55:04\|470</wrap>which perhaps was not promised at all— <wrap hide>615\|00:55:05\|390\|00:55:09\|770</wrap>the promised land being more Shambhala than a piece of territory— <wrap hide>616\|00:55:11\|290\|00:55:14\|710</wrap>perhaps the Master Jesus as Joshua <wrap hide>617\|00:55:16\|670\|00:55:22\|150</wrap>skewed certain world events in a direction that they need not have taken. <wrap hide>618\|00:55:22\|790\|00:55:25\|970</wrap>So I think all of us have to be very, very cautious <wrap hide>619\|00:55:26\|970\|00:55:31\|470</wrap>when we are affected by great enthusiasm and zeal <wrap hide>620\|00:55:31\|470\|00:55:34\|790</wrap>under the sixth ray, <wrap hide>621\|00:55:36\|550\|00:55:41\|590</wrap>because so often it is our virtues that are concealing vices, <wrap hide>622\|00:55:41\|590\|00:55:45\|230</wrap>and if there is overemphasis upon a particular virtue, <wrap hide>623\|00:55:45\|230\|00:55:48\|930</wrap>it becomes, through imbalance, a vice. <wrap hide>624\|00:55:50\|430\|00:55:53\|010</wrap>I personally take this as quite a warning <wrap hide>625\|00:55:54\|250\|00:56:02\|900</wrap>and I'm sure there are many among us who can apply this to our own discipleship service. <wrap hide>626\|00:56:06\|230\|00:56:08\|710</wrap>So this skewing of the truth, <wrap hide>627\|00:56:09\|390\|00:56:10\|970</wrap>this filtering of the truth, <wrap hide>628\|00:56:10\|970\|00:56:13\|750</wrap>this slanting and twisting of the truth <wrap hide>629\|00:56:14\|750\|00:56:19\|730</wrap>is responsible for the sorry historical story of Christianity <wrap hide>630\|00:56:20\|750\|00:56:23\|550</wrap>and even the dire plight of the nations today, <wrap hide>631\|00:56:23\|550\|00:56:28\|850</wrap>which I suppose are involved, or were involved at that time and still are to a degree, <wrap hide>632\|00:56:29\|570\|00:56:33\|790</wrap>in the wars arising from conflicts of idealism. <wrap hide>633\|00:56:33\|790\|00:56:36\|590</wrap>They are not dealing with each other <wrap hide>634\|00:56:36\|590\|00:56:38\|550</wrap>in love and consideration. <wrap hide>635\|00:56:39\|490\|00:56:41\|750</wrap>They are dealing with each other <wrap hide>636\|00:56:42\|370\|00:56:44\|770</wrap>through the attempt to impose their idealism <wrap hide>637\|00:56:46\|290\|00:56:49\|950</wrap>upon the others which do not share that idealism. <wrap hide>638\|00:56:50\|270\|00:56:54\|110</wrap>It's a very limited point of view, but very self-justifying. <wrap hide>639\|00:56:54\|670\|00:56:56\|110</wrap>It feels right <wrap hide>640\|00:56:56\|650\|00:56:58\|670</wrap>because there is a great surety <wrap hide>641\|00:56:59\|730\|00:57:01\|730</wrap>concerning the idealism <wrap hide>642\|00:57:02\|310\|00:57:04\|690</wrap>of any particular individual or nation. <wrap hide>643\|00:57:04\|690\|00:57:06\|510</wrap>He is blinded from doubt, <wrap hide>644\|00:57:06\|510\|00:57:10\|230</wrap>and doubt can be so healthy— it causes self-examination. <wrap hide>645\|00:57:10\|770\|00:57:12\|870</wrap>There is no doubt in the inadequately <wrap hide>646\|00:57:15\|470\|00:57:16\|830</wrap>psychologized attitude <wrap hide>647\|00:57:17\|730\|00:57:19\|430</wrap>of the sixth ray fanatic. <wrap hide>648\|00:57:20\|590\|00:57:22\|050</wrap>When doubt enters, <wrap hide>649\|00:57:22\|830\|00:57:24\|910</wrap>a new state can supervene. <wrap hide>650\|00:57:26\|970\|00:57:31\|250</wrap>And so we have many <wrap quote> ostensibly Christian nations</wrap> <wrap hide>651\|00:57:32\|050\|00:57:34\|530</wrap>suppose we are looking at Europe particularly here— <wrap hide>652\|00:57:34\|690\|00:57:36\|910</wrap><wrap quote>yet swept by hate, <wrap hide>653\|00:57:37\|750\|00:57:38\|990</wrap>ruled by fear </wrap><wrap hide>654\|00:57:39\|770\|00:57:41\|190</wrap>These are Martian <wrap hide>655\|00:57:42\|630\|00:57:45\|810</wrap>qualities, reminding me of the <wrap hide>656\|00:57:45\|810\|00:57:48\|010</wrap>satellites of Mars: <wrap hide>657\|00:57:48\|770\|00:57:50\|130</wrap>Deimos and Phobos. <wrap hide>658\|00:57:50\|770\|00:57:52\|110</wrap>I suppose, <wrap hide>659\|00:57:52\|770\|00:57:54\|370</wrap>fear and <wrap hide>660\|00:57:54\|370\|00:57:56\|090</wrap>hatred. <wrap hide>661\|00:57:56\|770\|00:57:59\|170</wrap>And at the same time, <wrap hide>662\|00:57:59\|770\|00:58:02\|210</wrap>swept by idealism. <wrap hide>663\|00:58:04\|690\|00:58:05\|970</wrap>Excuse me. <wrap hide>664\|00:58:10\|390\|00:58:11\|270</wrap>So, <wrap hide>665\|00:58:12\|630\|00:58:13\|670</wrap>Christian nations... <wrap hide>666\|00:58:15\|450\|00:58:16\|330</wrap>involved <wrap hide>667\|00:58:17\|470\|00:58:19\|630</wrap>in the Great War from 1914 <wrap hide>668\|00:58:20\|550\|00:58:22\|470</wrap>to 1945. <wrap hide>669\|00:58:23\|490\|00:58:25\|110</wrap>This being written in the '30s, <wrap hide>670\|00:58:26\|630\|00:58:28\|050</wrap>Christian nations like <wrap hide>671\|00:58:28\|770\|00:58:30\|810</wrap>Germany, France, England, <wrap hide>672\|00:58:31\|890\|00:58:34\|530</wrap>swept by hate, <wrap quote>ruled by fear <wrap hide>673\|00:58:35\|610\|00:58:38\|270</wrap>and at the same time by idealism, <wrap hide>1\|00:00:02\|480\|00:00:10\|320</wrap>governed by a fanatical adherence to their <wrap hide>675\|00:58:41\|550\|00:58:44\|990</wrap>national destiny as they interpret it</wrap> <wrap hide>676\|00:58:44\|990\|00:58:49\|070</wrap>which is really lower egoism on a national scale, isn't it? <wrap hide>677\|00:58:50\|050\|00:58:51\|010</wrap><wrap quote>and "out for blood" <wrap hide>678\|00:58:51\|910\|00:58:54\|270</wrap>as the piling up of armaments <wrap hide>679\|00:58:54\|950\|00:58:56\|030</wrap>discloses.</wrap> So, <wrap hide>680\|00:58:57\|230\|00:58:59\|710</wrap>not seeing the value of the other <wrap hide>681\|00:58:59\|710\|00:59:02\|990</wrap>nation's orientation, but <wrap hide>682\|00:59:03\|830\|00:59:04\|670</wrap>determined in the way that they are <wrap hide>683\|00:59:04\|690\|00:59:05\|490</wrap>in a Martian manner <wrap hide>684\|00:59:05\|490\|00:59:07\|110</wrap>to conquer, <wrap hide>685\|00:59:07\|110\|00:59:09\|190</wrap>blinded by the narrowness <wrap hide>686\|00:59:09\|190\|00:59:13\|890</wrap>of the sixth ray. And this is playing out on the world stage even today <wrap hide>687\|00:59:14\|730\|00:59:15\|490</wrap>between <wrap hide>688\|00:59:16\|910\|00:59:20\|850</wrap>what have been called clashing civilizations <wrap hide>689\|00:59:21\|650\|00:59:24\|690</wrap>and the various nations which come under <wrap hide>690\|00:59:25\|590\|00:59:26\|850</wrap>those categories. <wrap hide>691\|00:59:27\|790\|00:59:32\|170</wrap>This involves, as well, religion and nationalism today <wrap hide>692\|00:59:33\|090\|00:59:35\|210</wrap>and has to be <wrap hide>693\|00:59:35\|210\|00:59:37\|190</wrap>solved at last <wrap hide>694\|00:59:38\|130\|00:59:40\|870</wrap>during the next hundred years, and hopefully much sooner. <wrap hide>695\|00:59:42\|130\|00:59:45\|250</wrap>The sixth ray will be fading out, we are told, altogether <wrap hide>696\|00:59:47\|410\|00:59:48\|050</wrap>by <wrap hide>697\|00:59:49\|170\|00:59:50\|350</wrap>the early... <wrap hide>698\|00:59:53\|210\|00:59:54\|530</wrap>Well, let's see: <wrap hide>699\|00:59:55\|590\|00:59:57\|930</wrap>22nd century, I suppose... 21-something: <wrap hide>700\|00:59:57\|930\|01:00:00\|630</wrap>2125, 2130. <wrap hide>701\|01:00:00\|630\|01:00:04\|450</wrap>And the Pisces energy will have completely <wrap hide>702\|01:00:04\|450\|01:00:06\|870</wrap>lifted and faded <wrap hide>703\|01:00:07\|370\|01:00:09\|350</wrap>at the end of this, our present century. <wrap hide>704\|01:00:10\|430\|01:00:12\|610</wrap>So this attitude, <wrap hide>705\|01:00:13\|570\|01:00:16\|510</wrap>which is so dangerous in a nuclear age, <wrap hide>706\|01:00:16\|510\|01:00:19\|050</wrap>this kind of intersection of <wrap hide>707\|01:00:19\|370\|01:00:21\|810</wrap>sixth ray Piscean fanaticism <wrap hide>708\|01:00:22\|630\|01:00:26\|010</wrap>with the early development of atomic energy <wrap hide>709\|01:00:26\|710\|01:00:28\|090</wrap>under Aquarius, <wrap hide>710\|01:00:28\|710\|01:00:30\|390</wrap>presents <wrap hide>711\|01:00:30\|630\|01:00:32\|790</wrap>some very dire possibilities <wrap hide>712\|01:00:33\|650\|01:00:35\|010</wrap>to humanity. <wrap hide>713\|01:00:36\|250\|01:00:38\|790</wrap>And we have to hope that somehow <wrap hide>714\|01:00:39\|710\|01:00:42\|670</wrap>our better angels, as it were, can see us through this <wrap hide>715\|01:00:42\|670\|01:00:45\|070</wrap>with the help of the Hierarchy. <wrap hide>716\|01:00:45\|550\|01:00:47\|670</wrap>We cannot have <wrap hide>717\|01:00:47\|670\|01:00:50\|030</wrap>the Martian religious war <wrap hide>718\|01:00:51\|270\|01:00:53\|570</wrap>about which D.K. warned, <wrap hide>719\|01:00:54\|710\|01:00:58\|170</wrap>not specifying who the combatants would be. But now <wrap hide>720\|01:00:58\|170\|01:01:00\|950</wrap>it is pretty clear who the combatants <wrap hide>721\|01:01:02\|070\|01:01:03\|950</wrap>would be, and this <wrap hide>722\|01:01:03\|950\|01:01:05\|950</wrap>some 60 years <wrap hide>723\|01:01:06\|790\|01:01:08\|350</wrap>after he <wrap hide>724\|01:01:08\|350\|01:01:11\|390</wrap>wrote about these dire possibilities. <wrap hide>725\|01:01:14\|050\|01:01:14\|890</wrap>So, <wrap hide>726\|01:01:16\|090\|01:01:19\|550</wrap>blood... Mars... the spilling of blood, <wrap hide>727\|01:01:20\|670\|01:01:23\|270</wrap>the attitude of conquest <wrap hide>728\|01:01:23\|270\|01:01:27\|410</wrap>dictated by a narrow idealism <wrap hide>729\|01:01:28\|170\|01:01:33\|150</wrap>which does not honor or see value in the other person or nation's point of view: <wrap hide>730\|01:01:34\|290\|01:01:37\|050</wrap>these are six-ray characteristics. <wrap hide>731\|01:01:37\|050\|01:01:40\|470</wrap>Well, this is the <wrap hide>732\|01:01:41\|250\|01:01:41\|910</wrap>end. <wrap hide>733\|01:01:43\|100\|01:01:43\|510</wrap>Yes. <wrap hide>734\|01:01:45\|080\|01:01:48\|330</wrap>This is the end of the first part of 78. <wrap hide>735\|01:01:51\|870\|01:01:54\|250</wrap>So this is EAA 78, <wrap hide>736\|01:01:54\|250\|01:01:55\|010</wrap>78, <wrap hide>737\|01:01:57\|070\|01:01:59\|670</wrap>and it's the A part of it, <wrap hide>738\|01:01:59\|670\|01:02:01\|350</wrap>and it's page something... <wrap hide>739\|01:02:02\|130\|01:02:03\|210</wrap>Let's see: <wrap hide>740\|01:02:10\|310\|01:02:11\|470</wrap>page 215, <wrap hide>741\|01:02:13\|170\|01:02:14\|250</wrap>I suppose. <wrap hide>742\|01:02:18\|550\|01:02:22\|670</wrap>I'm dividing it this way as it probably makes it a little easier to put it on YouTube. <wrap hide>743\|01:02:24\|250\|01:02:26\|210</wrap>But let us continue <wrap hide>744\|01:02:26\|210\|01:02:28\|810</wrap>into part B. <wrap hide>745\|01:02:34\|070\|01:02:35\|330</wrap>Part B. <wrap hide>746\|01:02:36\|590\|01:02:40\|710</wrap>Just continuing where we left off. <wrap hide>747\|01:02:43\|170\|01:02:45\|330</wrap>The nations out for blood, <wrap hide>748\|01:02:45\|330\|01:02:47\|250</wrap>just the way competitive <wrap hide>749\|01:02:47\|970\|01:02:50\|490</wrap>human beings seeking to dominate each other <wrap hide>750\|01:02:50\|490\|01:02:51\|810</wrap>are out for blood. <wrap hide>751\|01:02:51\|810\|01:02:54\|430</wrap>It may be done in the economic sphere, in the political sphere, <wrap hide>752\|01:02:54\|430\|01:02:56\|830</wrap>in the religious sphere. It doesn't make any difference. <wrap hide>753\|01:02:57\|570\|01:02:59\|690</wrap>We seek to kill the enemy <wrap hide>754\|01:03:00\|690\|01:03:02\|190</wrap>rather than absorb <wrap hide>755\|01:03:02\|890\|01:03:05\|250</wrap>the value of the enemy and <wrap hide>756\|01:03:05\|890\|01:03:10\|230</wrap>have those other values influence our values for the good. <wrap hide>757\|01:03:10\|890\|01:03:12\|670</wrap>Alexander the Great, for all of his <wrap hide>758\|01:03:14\|870\|01:03:19\|630</wrap>tendency towards conquest, was strongly motivated by the fourth ray, I believe, and <wrap hide>759\|01:03:19\|630\|01:03:23\|550</wrap>seemed to absorb the best values <wrap hide>760\|01:03:23\|550\|01:03:29\|230</wrap>of the civilizations and groups that he conquered, <wrap hide>761\|01:03:29\|230\|01:03:31\|100</wrap>especially Persia in this case. <wrap hide>762\|01:03:31\|990\|01:03:34\|210</wrap>But that's not the sixth ray attitude. <wrap hide>763\|01:03:34\|210\|01:03:36\|710</wrap>The sixth ray attitude is to completely annihilate <wrap hide>764\|01:03:38\|270\|01:03:40\|130</wrap>the conquered group <wrap hide>765\|01:03:41\|150\|01:03:43\|310</wrap>or to enslave them. <wrap hide>766\|01:03:44\|810\|01:03:48\|290</wrap>And it's amazing the calls for slavery <wrap hide>767\|01:03:48\|290\|01:03:52\|390</wrap>that are still emerging in our modern era, <wrap hide>768\|01:03:53\|990\|01:03:56\|650</wrap>even sex slavery. <wrap hide>769\|01:03:57\|370\|01:04:02\|210</wrap>This coming in under Mars, which we have just been seeing, <wrap hide>770\|01:04:02\|210\|01:04:04\|190</wrap>rules sex. <wrap hide>771\|01:04:05\|350\|01:04:08\|730</wrap>So there's a strong Scorpionic tendency here. <wrap hide>772\|01:04:09\|370\|01:04:11\|670</wrap>Scorpio in the lower aspect to reawaken <wrap hide>773\|01:04:12\|370\|01:04:13\|370</wrap>the hydra <wrap hide>774\|01:04:14\|210\|01:04:16\|590</wrap>and allow the hydra to dominate. <wrap hide>775\|01:04:16\|590\|01:04:21\|100</wrap>But all of this will be swept aside in the general cleansing <wrap hide>776\|01:04:21\|790\|01:04:24\|020</wrap>that Aquarius will bring <wrap hide>777\|01:04:24\|830\|01:04:29\|910</wrap>with the two rivers, the Alpheus and Peneus, <wrap hide>778\|01:04:30\|670\|01:04:34\|010</wrap>sweeping through the stables <wrap hide>779\|01:04:34\|640\|01:04:37\|650</wrap>of King Augeas. <wrap hide>780\|01:04:39\|850\|01:04:42\|920</wrap>Cleansing all the three levels. <wrap hide>781\|01:04:43\|860\|01:04:46\|680</wrap>This is inevitable, but <wrap hide>782\|01:04:46\|680\|01:04:50\|220</wrap>many who call for the reawakening of <wrap hide>783\|01:04:51\|000\|01:04:54\|040</wrap>very ancient attitudes don't see forward. <wrap hide>784\|01:04:54\|040\|01:04:56\|180</wrap>They see only backward. This is a great danger, <wrap hide>785\|01:04:56\|740\|01:04:58\|840</wrap>and the sixth ray has a sentimental, <wrap hide>786\|01:05:00\|320\|01:05:02\|380</wrap>reactionary side to it which <wrap hide>787\|01:05:03\|000\|01:05:07\|500</wrap>seeks to seek former glory. <wrap hide>788\|01:05:07\|500\|01:05:10\|960</wrap>Whenever former glory is sought, <wrap hide>789\|01:05:11\|780\|01:05:13\|480</wrap>we are in a position <wrap hide>790\|01:05:15\|780\|01:05:19\|060</wrap>which will lead to destruction and despair. <wrap hide>791\|01:05:22\|580\|01:05:25\|380</wrap>The Italians in World War II <wrap hide>792\|01:05:25\|920\|01:05:27\|680</wrap>sought the former glory of Rome. <wrap hide>793\|01:05:27\|680\|01:05:32\|400</wrap>The Germans sought the former glory of the magnificent <wrap hide>794\|01:05:34\|180\|01:05:36\|900</wrap>Teuton who had been somehow corrupted. <wrap hide>795\|01:05:40\|040\|01:05:41\|520</wrap>The Jews— <wrap hide>796\|01:05:41\|520\|01:05:47\|720</wrap>the Jewish group seeks to reestablish the ancient land of Israel. <wrap hide>797\|01:05:48\|980\|01:05:50\|500</wrap>The Islamic group— <wrap hide>798\|01:05:51\|660\|01:05:57\|860</wrap>some of them seek to reestablish the conquered caliphate. <wrap hide>799\|01:05:58\|980\|01:06:03\|840</wrap>Former glory is always a dangerous pursuit <wrap hide>800\|01:06:03\|840\|01:06:10\|220</wrap>and is no true vision of the descending plan <wrap hide>801\|01:06:10\|730\|01:06:12\|380</wrap>which the intuition reveals. <wrap hide>802\|01:06:14\|100\|01:06:17\|280</wrap>So all of these negative characteristics, says D.K., <wrap hide>803\|01:06:17\|280\|01:06:19\|560</wrap><wrap quote> All these are sixth ray characteristics, <wrap hide>804\|01:06:20\|740\|01:06:24\|140</wrap>emphasised by Scorpio and conditioned by Mars</wrap> <wrap hide>805\|01:06:24\|140\|01:06:28\|600</wrap>Scorpio is the greater entity here, the lord of the constellation Scorpio, <wrap hide>806\|01:06:28\|600\|01:06:31\|480</wrap>and the lesser lord of the planet Mars, <wrap hide>807\|01:06:31\|480\|01:06:33\|900</wrap>which is kind of a student, you might say, <wrap hide>808\|01:06:34\|560\|01:06:37\|000</wrap>of the lord of the constellation Scorpio. <wrap hide>809\|01:06:38\|600\|01:06:44\|960</wrap>So all these are six-ray characteristics emphasized by Scorpio, <wrap hide>810\|01:06:45\|560\|01:06:50\|800</wrap>the application conditioned by the militancy, <wrap hide>811\|01:06:51\|280\|01:06:53\|060</wrap>the war-like nature of Mars, <wrap hide>812\|01:06:54\|420\|01:06:57\|360</wrap><wrap quote>which ever rules the path of the individual disciple,</wrap> <wrap hide>813\|01:06:58\|820\|01:06:59\|460</wrap>Interesting. <wrap hide>814\|01:07:02\|020\|01:07:05\|900</wrap>Mars ruling the path of the individual disciple. <wrap hide>815\|01:07:05\|900\|01:07:09\|840</wrap>It seems discipleship is necessarily, as we understand it, <wrap hide>816\|01:07:09\|840\|01:07:12\|620</wrap>at least on Earth, filled with conflict. <wrap hide>817\|01:07:12\|620\|01:07:14\|460</wrap>We do live on a conflicted planet. <wrap hide>818\|01:07:16\|250\|01:07:22\|540</wrap>And we are graduates of a school of purifying pain and releasing sorrow. <wrap hide>819\|01:07:23\|330\|01:07:25\|380</wrap>We live on a planet of painful endeavor, <wrap hide>820\|01:07:26\|160\|01:07:28\|660</wrap>and so much of the pain is caused by <wrap hide>821\|01:07:30\|560\|01:07:32\|680</wrap>the clash of battle, <wrap hide>822\|01:07:33\|820\|01:07:39\|020</wrap>the conflict brought on by Mars, <wrap hide>823\|01:07:39\|020\|01:07:46\|120</wrap>a major contributing planet to the psychic and energic condition <wrap hide>824\|01:07:46\|420\|01:07:49\|800</wrap>of the Earth at this time and of humanity at this time. <wrap hide>825\|01:07:51\|080\|01:07:53\|660</wrap>So it seems that one cannot really be a disciple <wrap hide>826\|01:07:53\|660\|01:07:56\|180</wrap>unless one is ready to battle <wrap hide>827\|01:07:57\|480\|01:08:00\|820</wrap>on behalf of the higher aspect of oneself <wrap hide>828\|01:08:00\|820\|01:08:07\|020</wrap>with the reassertion, strenuous reassertion, of the lower aspect of oneself. <wrap hide>829\|01:08:07\|020\|01:08:15\|600</wrap><wrap quote>and today the world disciple, humanity as a whole, stands at the very portal of the Path.</wrap> <wrap hide>830\|01:08:15\|600\|01:08:16\|760</wrap>and is engaged— <wrap hide>831\|01:08:16\|760\|01:08:19\|820</wrap>well, this was written in the interim between <wrap hide>832\|01:08:21\|320\|01:08:26\|940</wrap>two great wars which D.K. sees as one great war, <wrap hide>833\|01:08:28\|120\|01:08:33\|260</wrap>1914 to 1945. So even though this was written in the early '30s, <wrap hide>834\|01:08:34\|680\|01:08:39\|260</wrap>I suppose the masters knew in a way that they were involved in a larger <wrap hide>835\|01:08:40\|120\|01:08:41\|820</wrap>war, a larger process, <wrap hide>836\|01:08:42\|500\|01:08:46\|900</wrap>and could see ahead to the possibility, although they strove <wrap hide>837\|01:08:49\|440\|01:08:53\|060</wrap>strenuously through goodwill initiatives to avoid <wrap hide>838\|01:08:53\|740\|01:08:56\|900</wrap>the second phase of the precipitation of the war. <wrap hide>839\|01:08:59\|300\|01:09:03\|320</wrap>So even then, humanity was the world disciple today, <wrap hide>840\|01:09:03\|320\|01:09:07\|740</wrap>involved in all manner of conflicts and the attempt to reconcile conflicts <wrap hide>841\|01:09:07\|740\|01:09:14\|300</wrap>under the United Nations. Humanity still stands at the very portal of the path <wrap hide>842\|01:09:14\|300\|01:09:17\|540</wrap>with the Aquarian energy getting stronger and stronger all the time <wrap hide>843\|01:09:18\|320\|01:09:22\|440</wrap>and bringing the universal love of the Christ closer. <wrap hide>844\|01:09:23\|040\|01:09:28\|020</wrap>But as that love descends, of course, it evokes its opposite. <wrap hide>845\|01:09:29\|860\|01:09:32\|400</wrap><wrap quote>The entire west is at this time <wrap hide>846\|01:09:34\|480\|01:09:35\|160</wrap>under <wrap hide>847\|01:09:38\|800\|01:09:40\|160</wrap>Martian influence <wrap hide>848\|01:09:40\|160\|01:09:44\|040</wrap>but this will end during the next five years.</wrap> <wrap hide>849\|01:09:45\|780\|01:09:52\|340</wrap>Well, okay, it's difficult to know exactly when sections of this book were written, <wrap hide>850\|01:09:52\|340\|01:09:55\|940</wrap>but we do seem to be relatively in an early part of the book <wrap hide>851\|01:09:55\|940\|01:10:03\|260</wrap>which seems to have been written relatively in the mid-30s. <wrap hide>852\|01:10:04\|600\|01:10:10\|540</wrap>And so this influence apparently did not really end, <wrap hide>853\|01:10:10\|540\|01:10:13\|600</wrap>unless he's speaking of the influence as it manifests <wrap hide>854\|01:10:14\|800\|01:10:19\|720</wrap>on the inner planes and then gradually has to work out and through <wrap hide>855\|01:10:21\|200\|01:10:22\|600</wrap>the outer planes. <wrap hide>856\|01:10:25\|300\|01:10:27\|480</wrap>Let's see what further may be said here, <wrap hide>857\|01:10:27\|480\|01:10:32\|000</wrap>because certainly, you know, great aspects of the war were under— <wrap hide>858\|01:10:33\|800\|01:10:35\|820</wrap>were in expression <wrap hide>859\|01:10:35\|820\|01:10:41\|380</wrap>during the early 40s. And even up to the winter of 1942 in the north, <wrap hide>860\|01:10:41\|380\|01:10:46\|980</wrap>it was not known which way humanity would go, or whether humanity would go down to defeat. <wrap hide>861\|01:10:46\|980\|01:10:49\|960</wrap>So certainly the Martian influence was very, very strong. <wrap hide>862\|01:10:49\|960\|01:10:54\|740</wrap>Later I think he talks about the power of Mars waning, <wrap hide>863\|01:10:54\|740\|01:10:59\|980</wrap>but that is towards the end of the war. So one wonders whether it was artificially somehow <wrap hide>864\|01:11:01\|720\|01:11:02\|240</wrap>prolonged. <wrap hide>865\|01:11:03\|300\|01:11:05\|000</wrap>Maybe D.K. was really hoping— <wrap hide>866\|01:11:06\|520\|01:11:08\|900</wrap>let's say this was written in the middle 30s— <wrap hide>867\|01:11:12\|100\|01:11:15\|280</wrap>19... well, 34, 35, 36, <wrap hide>868\|01:11:16\|860\|01:11:22\|020</wrap>going forward by a few years could have taken us to the end of the 30s, beginning of the 40s. <wrap hide>869\|01:11:22\|020\|01:11:26\|640</wrap>Maybe he was hoping that the next phase of the war would not precipitate. <wrap hide>870\|01:11:26\|640\|01:11:27\|960</wrap>It certainly was a possibility <wrap hide>871\|01:11:28\|560\|01:11:30\|620</wrap>that it need not have precipitated. <wrap hide>872\|01:11:30\|620\|01:11:33\|480</wrap>But enough men and women of good will, <wrap hide>873\|01:11:33\|480\|01:11:39\|520</wrap>we are told, could not be found to stem the tide of the war-like forces. <wrap hide>874\|01:11:40\|560\|01:11:42\|800</wrap>So we've had <wrap hide>875\|01:11:44\|700\|01:11:49\|440</wrap>Mars governing the physical body and personality. <wrap hide>876\|01:11:49\|440\|01:11:57\|800</wrap>We've had Mars governing sex and the blood. <wrap hide>877\|01:12:02\|360\|01:12:04\|160</wrap>Let's see here. <wrap hide>878\|01:12:09\|860\|01:12:12\|400</wrap>Yes, sex and the blood. <wrap hide>879\|01:12:12\|400\|01:12:18\|280</wrap>And now he comes to the third factor <wrap hide>880\|01:12:18\|280\|01:12:19\|700</wrap>which Mars governs. <wrap hide>881\|01:12:20\|680\|01:12:25\|860</wrap><wrap quote>Thirdly, Mars governs the senses which are five in number</wrap> <wrap hide>882\|01:12:25\|860\|01:12:30\|060</wrap>He seems in a way to be moving up through the planes. <wrap hide>883\|01:12:32\|700\|01:12:38\|320</wrap>There will be some connection of Mars with the lower concrete mind, <wrap hide>884\|01:12:38\|320\|01:12:40\|220</wrap>whose number is five as well. <wrap hide>885\|01:12:41\|420\|01:12:48\|420</wrap>So Mars is actually the acuity of the way we interact with our environment. <wrap hide>886\|01:12:48\|760\|01:12:50\|400</wrap>The senses, five in number— <wrap hide>887\|01:12:50\|400\|01:12:56\|720</wrap>number five, I think, does relate to a higher aspect of Mars. <wrap hide>888\|01:12:56\|720\|01:13:01\|620</wrap>I've suspected that one of the monadic rays of Mars is the fifth. <wrap hide>889\|01:13:02\|380\|01:13:09\|760</wrap>This would correlate pretty well with Saul—Paul—as under the Martian influence, <wrap hide>890\|01:13:09\|760\|01:13:12\|580</wrap>because if he had a sixth ray soul <wrap hide>891\|01:13:13\|720\|01:13:17\|500</wrap>for a while, at least, giving way to the second ray, <wrap hide>892\|01:13:17\|500\|01:13:23\|540</wrap>his particular influence at the moment is very much under the fifth ray, <wrap hide>893\|01:13:24\|460\|01:13:26\|780</wrap>being the fifth ray Chohan. <wrap hide>894\|01:13:26\|780\|01:13:30\|540</wrap>Mars is interestingly a rather orange planet, <wrap hide>895\|01:13:31\|400\|01:13:33\|700</wrap>not just a red planet, but red-orange, <wrap hide>896\|01:13:34\|500\|01:13:35\|860</wrap>correlating with the fifth ray, <wrap hide>897\|01:13:35\|860\|01:13:37\|320</wrap>orange being the color of the fifth ray. <wrap hide>898\|01:13:37\|320\|01:13:41\|600</wrap>Interestingly enough, some of the color presented by Venus <wrap hide>899\|01:13:42\|280\|01:13:44\|180</wrap>seems to be orange as well, <wrap hide>900\|01:13:44\|180\|01:13:45\|580</wrap>indicating exteriorly, <wrap hide>901\|01:13:45\|580\|01:13:50\|920</wrap>perhaps, the fifth ray nature of that planet. <wrap hide>902\|01:13:52\|800\|01:13:55\|500</wrap>So Mars is involved with the concrete mind. <wrap hide>903\|01:13:55\|500\|01:13:58\|300</wrap><wrap quote>These senses are the basis of all human knowledge </wrap><wrap hide>904\|01:13:58\|300\|01:14:01\|600</wrap>presumably the knowledge of the concrete mind, <wrap hide>905\|01:14:02\|960\|01:14:07\|900</wrap><wrap quote>where that which is tangible and objective is concerned or inferred.</wrap> <wrap hide>906\|01:14:07\|900\|01:14:10\|660</wrap>So Mars is not a subtle planet. <wrap hide>907\|01:14:11\|620\|01:14:14\|560</wrap>It deals with objectivity and tangibility <wrap hide>908\|01:14:14\|560\|01:14:19\|880</wrap>and is very much involved in promoting the materialistic perspective. <wrap hide>909\|01:14:20\|580\|01:14:23\|280</wrap>But of course, Martian science must give way <wrap hide>910\|01:14:24\|400\|01:14:27\|140</wrap>to a more subtle science. <wrap hide>911\|01:14:27\|140\|01:14:32\|680</wrap>ruled perhaps by, let us call it, the occult mind of Uranus, <wrap hide>912\|01:14:34\|020\|01:14:43\|300</wrap>and the higher aspects of Mercury and Neptune's sensitivity, and so forth. <wrap hide>913\|01:14:44\|260\|01:14:47\|040</wrap>So the five senses... and it's kind of interesting: <wrap hide>914\|01:14:47\|040\|01:14:50\|140</wrap>people with a strong Mars <wrap hide>915\|01:14:51\|460\|01:14:54\|560</wrap>sometimes have a quite prominent lower brow <wrap hide>916\|01:14:55\|340\|01:14:57\|440</wrap>from the physiognomic perspective, <wrap hide>917\|01:14:58\|380\|01:15:01\|380</wrap>and that may indicate their engagement <wrap hide>918\|01:15:02\|800\|01:15:05\|180</wrap>with that which the senses reveal— <wrap hide>919\|01:15:05\|180\|01:15:07\|520</wrap>their engagement with objectivity. <wrap hide>920\|01:15:08\|940\|01:15:12\|200</wrap>It's not so much the higher forehead which is involved; <wrap hide>921\|01:15:12\|200\|01:15:14\|160</wrap>that's more under the realm of Jupiter. <wrap hide>922\|01:15:16\|020\|01:15:20\|440</wrap>The study of physiognomy in relation to the planets I think is very important, <wrap hide>923\|01:15:21\|080\|01:15:23\|200</wrap>and in relation to the zodiacal signs. <wrap hide>924\|01:15:23\|200\|01:15:27\|300</wrap>It's complex; there's much fusing and blending going on, <wrap hide>925\|01:15:27\|300\|01:15:32\|700</wrap>but perhaps the eye can become discerning enough <wrap hide>926\|01:15:33\|340\|01:15:36\|560</wrap>to detect these planetary and zodiacal influences <wrap hide>927\|01:15:37\|260\|01:15:40\|400</wrap>on that form which is the body, and especially the face, <wrap hide>928\|01:15:40\|400\|01:15:46\|740</wrap>as the more acute revealer of identity. <wrap hide>929\|01:15:48\|760\|01:15:51\|620</wrap><wrap quote>Mars, therefore, rules science </wrap><wrap hide>930\|01:15:52\|480\|01:15:58\|040</wrap>And I do believe in the Gauquelin research <wrap hide>931\|01:15:58\|040\|01:16:04\|540</wrap>that it was not only Saturn that was found prominent in the charts of scientists, <wrap hide>932\|01:16:04\|540\|01:16:07\|080</wrap>but Mars as well. <wrap hide>933\|01:16:08\|860\|01:16:14\|220</wrap>Mars is this power to engage with the environment, <wrap hide>934\|01:16:14\|220\|01:16:16\|120</wrap>to investigate, to learn about it. <wrap hide>935\|01:16:16\|120\|01:16:24\|160</wrap>Of course, Pluto helps this tendency to engage and discover, <wrap hide>936\|01:16:24\|940\|01:16:26\|240</wrap>to go even deeper. <wrap hide>937\|01:16:26\|240\|01:16:29\|760</wrap>So Mars and Pluto are probing. <wrap hide>938\|01:16:30\|920\|01:16:35\|960</wrap>I think they make very good planets of surgery when together. <wrap hide>939\|01:16:37\|360\|01:16:39\|460</wrap>So Mars rules science. <wrap hide>940\|01:16:41\|180\|01:16:43\|900</wrap>Very interesting, because you might not think this to be the case. <wrap hide>941\|01:16:43\|900\|01:16:46\|760</wrap>You think, "Okay, here's Venus, the planet of the fifth ray. <wrap hide>942\|01:16:46\|760\|01:16:48\|100</wrap>Why doesn't Venus rule science?" <wrap hide>943\|01:16:48\|340\|01:16:54\|160</wrap>But from a practical perspective, when we look at how people actually behave <wrap hide>944\|01:16:55\|100\|01:16:56\|580</wrap>under the influence of these planets, <wrap hide>945\|01:16:56\|580\|01:17:02\|960</wrap>we see that Venus is much more involved with the arts <wrap hide>946\|01:17:04\|080\|01:17:05\|900</wrap>than with science per se. <wrap hide>947\|01:17:07\|080\|01:17:09\|000</wrap>The statistical work has to be done. <wrap hide>948\|01:17:09\|000\|01:17:12\|080</wrap>I think it is being done by some. <wrap hide>949\|01:17:13\|820\|01:17:16\|380</wrap>Gauquelin started his work, <wrap hide>950\|01:17:17\|820\|01:17:20\|640</wrap>but there's much, much more that can be done. <wrap hide>951\|01:17:21\|360\|01:17:27\|120</wrap>Then astrology will prove itself statistically, mathematically, <wrap hide>952\|01:17:28\|120\|01:17:30\|280</wrap>and the skepticism surrounding it <wrap hide>953\|01:17:30\|280\|01:17:35\|280</wrap>and the imputation of mindless mysticism surrounding it <wrap hide>954\|01:17:35\|280\|01:17:40\|640</wrap>will be lifted, dissipated. <wrap hide>955\|01:17:41\|300\|01:17:45\|340</wrap>So Mars therefore rules science, <wrap quote>and hence the reason in this present era <wrap hide>956\|01:17:46\|100\|01:17:47\|420</wrap>(however long that is) <wrap hide>957\|01:17:48\|100\|01:17:53\|360</wrap>for the fundamental but not permanent materiality of science—</wrap> <wrap hide>958\|01:17:53\|360\|01:17:57\|740</wrap>So, you know, science has been quite material for hundreds of years. <wrap hide>959\|01:17:58\|700\|01:18:01\|760</wrap>Alchemy was given up; astrology was given up, <wrap hide>960\|01:18:01\|760\|01:18:06\|980</wrap>no longer considered worthy of the universities. <wrap hide>961\|01:18:07\|920\|01:18:14\|840</wrap>And for all through the 1600s, 17[00s], 18[00s], 1900s, <wrap hide>962\|01:18:15\|580\|01:18:19\|800</wrap>scientific pursuits have been largely of a material nature, <wrap hide>963\|01:18:19\|800\|01:18:21\|560</wrap>and necessarily so, I suppose, <wrap hide>964\|01:18:21\|560\|01:18:24\|280</wrap>to give us a foundational understanding <wrap hide>965\|01:18:25\|340\|01:18:27\|680</wrap>of the densest physical levels. <wrap hide>966\|01:18:30\|220\|01:18:31\|100</wrap>Interesting: <wrap hide>967\|01:18:31\|760\|01:18:34\|100</wrap>Mars and the materiality of science— <wrap hide>968\|01:18:34\|840\|01:18:36\|840</wrap><wrap quote>a materiality which is rapidly lessening <wrap hide>1\|00:00:02\|480\|00:00:10\|320</wrap>as Mars nears the end of its present cycle of influence.</wrap> <wrap hide>970\|01:18:45\|140\|01:18:49\|340</wrap>Okay, just have to find where that went. <wrap hide>971\|01:18:49\|340\|01:18:52\|640</wrap>The end of its present cycle of influence. <wrap hide>972\|01:18:52\|640\|01:18:54\|620</wrap>Later there's some discussion <wrap hide>973\|01:18:54\|620\|01:18:58\|700</wrap>about the waning of its power, at least on the astral plane. <wrap hide>974\|01:19:01\|020\|01:19:04\|080</wrap>Today I won't say that scientists are equally divided <wrap hide>975\|01:19:04\|740\|01:19:07\|400</wrap>between material and subtle approaches, <wrap hide>976\|01:19:07\|400\|01:19:10\|240</wrap>but if we think of the last hundred years, <wrap hide>977\|01:19:10\|960\|01:19:13\|440</wrap>science has been taken into a realm, <wrap hide>978\|01:19:14\|300\|01:19:16\|620</wrap>both in medicine and in physics, <wrap hide>979\|01:19:16\|620\|01:19:19\|200</wrap>which is decidedly non-material. <wrap hide>980\|01:19:19\|860\|01:19:22\|300</wrap>It is material in a more fundamental sense: <wrap hide>981\|01:19:22\|300\|01:19:26\|060</wrap>the very constituents of matter are being understood, <wrap hide>982\|01:19:26\|060\|01:19:30\|540</wrap>but these constituents are seen to be energy constituents <wrap hide>983\|01:19:30\|800\|01:19:35\|460</wrap>and not illusorily solid, as it were. <wrap hide>984\|01:19:36\|140\|01:19:39\|920</wrap>Matter has become appreciated as energy. <wrap hide>985\|01:19:40\|880\|01:19:43\|120</wrap>So this is a tremendous revelation, <wrap hide>986\|01:19:44\|140\|01:19:48\|300</wrap>proven in a way through the atomic bomb. <wrap hide>987\|01:19:48\|300\|01:19:54\|620</wrap>but certainly presented to us <wrap hide>988\|01:19:54\|620\|01:19:59\|700</wrap>in the speculation of Einstein and later the quantum physicists. <wrap hide>989\|01:20:02\|060\|01:20:06\|000</wrap>So a new approach to science is on its way, <wrap hide>990\|01:20:06\|740\|01:20:09\|720</wrap>and I would say in a way it's very Uranian. <wrap hide>991\|01:20:10\|840\|01:20:15\|720</wrap>Although at one point D.K. also associates Uranus with more orthodox science, <wrap hide>992\|01:20:15\|720\|01:20:17\|920</wrap>but certainly the higher potentials of Uranus <wrap hide>993\|01:20:17\|920\|01:20:21\|660</wrap>to investigate the subtle, the waves, the invisible <wrap hide>994\|01:20:21\|660\|01:20:24\|660</wrap>as real, is prominent. <wrap hide>995\|01:20:26\|060\|01:20:33\|000</wrap>So material science is giving way to the study of the etheric vehicle. <wrap hide>996\|01:20:33\|570\|01:20:36\|970</wrap>Mars doesn't have much to do with the etheric vehicle at all. <wrap hide>997\|01:20:37\|320\|01:20:43\|440</wrap>Other planets, Mercury, Uranus, ruling Aquarius and Gemini, <wrap hide>998\|01:20:43\|440\|01:20:47\|930</wrap>are far more etheric in their associations. <wrap hide>999\|01:20:49\|250\|01:20:53\|410</wrap><wrap quote>Already, the trend of modern science</wrap> and it's written in the 30s, <wrap hide>1000\|01:20:53\|410\|01:20:56\|230</wrap><wrap quote>is shifting into the realm of the intangible <wrap hide>1001\|01:20:56\|890\|01:20:59\|290</wrap>and into the world of the non-material.</wrap> <wrap hide>1002\|01:20:59\|290\|01:21:04\|410</wrap>At least you can no longer perceive the objects of study <wrap hide>1003\|01:21:05\|330\|01:21:08\|210</wrap>of the science of that period and of the present period <wrap hide>1004\|01:21:08\|930\|01:21:10\|370</wrap>with the ordinary senses. <wrap hide>1005\|01:21:10\|370\|01:21:12\|770</wrap>The senses have to be greatly extended. <wrap hide>1006\|01:21:12\|770\|01:21:18\|030</wrap>One thinks about now, 80 years later, <wrap hide>1007\|01:21:18\|850\|01:21:22\|150</wrap>for the search for the God particle. <wrap hide>1008\|01:21:23\|410\|01:21:29\|290</wrap>Particle physics certainly has taken us into the realm of the intangible <wrap hide>1009\|01:21:29\|850\|01:21:32\|630</wrap>and into the world of the non-material, <wrap hide>1010\|01:21:32\|630\|01:21:36\|190</wrap>where matter and energy are understood as equivalent. <wrap hide>1011\|01:21:36\|850\|01:21:41\|330</wrap>This is a tremendous releasing formula: <wrap hide>1012\|01:21:41\|330\|01:21:43\|330</wrap>that matter is energy, energy is matter. <wrap hide>1013\|01:21:43\|330\|01:21:46\|550</wrap>It opens the door to magic and the possibility of <wrap hide>1014\|01:21:47\|710\|01:21:50\|070</wrap>precipitation from subtler realms into dense <wrap hide>1015\|01:21:50\|070\|01:21:53\|930</wrap>and dematerialization from dense realms into subtle. <wrap hide>1016\|01:21:56\|470\|01:22:02\|030</wrap>So we see that D.K.'s indications are correct, <wrap hide>1017\|01:22:03\|390\|01:22:07\|350</wrap>even though let us say from 1950 to the year 2000 <wrap hide>1018\|01:22:07\|350\|01:22:10\|390</wrap>the emphasis upon the 5th ray ashram <wrap hide>1019\|01:22:12\|310\|01:22:13\|910</wrap>was lessened <wrap hide>1020\|01:22:13\|910\|01:22:18\|430</wrap>for the sake of humanity lest its knowledge of these things <wrap hide>1021\|01:22:18\|430\|01:22:23\|590</wrap>run too far ahead of its social and moral development. <wrap hide>1022\|01:22:24\|570\|01:22:29\|630</wrap><wrap quote>Hence also the fact that the opposition to occultism is waning</wrap> <wrap hide>1023\|01:22:30\|410\|01:22:32\|890</wrap>I guess Mars and the Martian religions <wrap hide>1024\|01:22:32\|890\|01:22:36\|570</wrap>put up a very great opposition to occultism <wrap hide>1025\|01:22:36\|990\|01:22:39\|770</wrap>because it challenges the familiar world. <wrap hide>1026\|01:22:39\|770\|01:22:45\|030</wrap>We see many vestigial 6th ray types <wrap hide>1027\|01:22:45\|030\|01:22:50\|010</wrap>living in a type of consciousness which can only be described as material, <wrap hide>1028\|01:22:50\|010\|01:22:53\|850</wrap>and even when it's spiritual, it's materially spiritual. <wrap hide>1029\|01:22:56\|010\|01:22:57\|030</wrap>Spiritual materialism. <wrap hide>1030\|01:22:58\|670\|01:23:02\|590</wrap>So the heaven as conceived, the other world as conceived, <wrap hide>1031\|01:23:02\|590\|01:23:04\|070</wrap>is still very material. <wrap hide>1032\|01:23:04\|850\|01:23:08\|110</wrap>But anyway, that is not the occult perspective, <wrap hide>1033\|01:23:09\|310\|01:23:11\|830</wrap>nor is it the mystical perspective. <wrap hide>1034\|01:23:11\|830\|01:23:15\|490</wrap>And the opposition to occultism is waning. <wrap hide>1035\|01:23:15\|490\|01:23:16\|970</wrap>It's a Martian opposition, <wrap hide>1036\|01:23:16\|970\|01:23:20\|590</wrap><wrap quote>and its day of power approaching.</wrap> <wrap hide>1037\|01:23:21\|410\|01:23:28\|490</wrap>Did H.P.B. tell us by the end of the 21st century – <wrap hide>1038\|01:23:28\|490\|01:23:32\|530</wrap>she put it in terms which are more difficult to understand, <wrap hide>1039\|01:23:32\|530\|01:23:37\|770</wrap>but I believe that what we call occultism must win the day <wrap hide>1040\|01:23:37\|770\|01:23:39\|290</wrap>by the end of the 21st century. <wrap hide>1041\|01:23:39\|290\|01:23:42\|790</wrap>That gives us another 90 years of work, <wrap hide>1042\|01:23:42\|790\|01:23:45\|590</wrap>and the speed with which things are occurring – <wrap hide>1043\|01:23:46\|690\|01:23:47\|890</wrap>revelations are occurring – <wrap hide>1044\|01:23:47\|890\|01:23:50\|910</wrap>it doesn't seem impossible at all. <wrap hide>1045\|01:23:52\|650\|01:23:56\|670</wrap><wrap quote>These subtler senses will supersede the physical senses <wrap hide>1046\|01:23:56\|670\|01:24:02\|170</wrap>over which Mars has so long had a successful control,</wrap> <wrap hide>1047\|01:24:02\|650\|01:24:04\|230</wrap>How very interesting, <wrap hide>1048\|01:24:04\|630\|01:24:07\|250</wrap>its association with the lower 5th ray. <wrap hide>1049\|01:24:08\|430\|01:24:13\|230</wrap>Just the way in a sense we can say that Venus is associated <wrap hide>1050\|01:24:13\|850\|01:24:16\|050</wrap>with the higher 5th ray, <wrap hide>1051\|01:24:16\|050\|01:24:18\|510</wrap>and also Uranus is there as well and Mercury as well. <wrap hide>1052\|01:24:18\|510\|01:24:20\|910</wrap>They all have I think 5th ray components. <wrap hide>1053\|01:24:22\|090\|01:24:27\|410</wrap>So these subtler senses will supersede the physical senses. <wrap hide>1054\|01:24:27\|410\|01:24:29\|690</wrap>Already with Kirlian photography we see this, <wrap hide>1055\|01:24:29\|690\|01:24:33\|190</wrap>and with the study of auras we see this. <wrap hide>1056\|01:24:34\|210\|01:24:36\|870</wrap>In the field of medicine that's another frontier <wrap hide>1057\|01:24:36\|870\|01:24:42\|070</wrap>where subtle energy is emerging as a reality. <wrap hide>1058\|01:24:42\|070\|01:24:45\|950</wrap>Medicine and physics seem to be the two areas <wrap hide>1059\|01:24:46\|970\|01:24:50\|290</wrap>where pioneering research is occurring. <wrap hide>1060\|01:24:50\|290\|01:24:52\|150</wrap>although it's much more accepted generally <wrap hide>1061\|01:24:52\|550\|01:24:54\|050</wrap>in the area of nuclear physics. <wrap hide>1062\|01:24:54\|870\|01:24:57\|690</wrap>But increasingly, enlightened physicians <wrap hide>1063\|01:24:57\|690\|01:25:00\|450</wrap>are understanding the energy treatment. <wrap hide>1064\|01:25:00\|450\|01:25:04\|010</wrap>These subtler senses will supersede the physical senses <wrap hide>1065\|01:25:04\|010\|01:25:06\|850</wrap>over which Mars has so long had a successful control. <wrap hide>1066\|01:25:08\|090\|01:25:11\|190</wrap>It's something like the transition from <wrap hide>1067\|01:25:12\|810\|01:25:15\|610</wrap>Newtonian physics to Einsteinian physics. <wrap hide>1068\|01:25:17\|370\|01:25:20\|830</wrap>It's as if the type of physics which <wrap hide>1069\|01:25:20\|830\|01:25:26\|650</wrap>Newton brought to such a pinnacle of understanding <wrap hide>1070\|01:25:26\|650\|01:25:29\|070</wrap>is more Martian in nature. <wrap hide>1071\|01:25:30\|290\|01:25:33\|950</wrap>But the physics of the late 19th, early 20th, <wrap hide>1072\|01:25:33\|950\|01:25:35\|470</wrap>and now 21st century <wrap hide>1073\|01:25:36\|190\|01:25:38\|790</wrap>sees the waning of the Martian influence, <wrap hide>1074\|01:25:39\|550\|01:25:42\|350</wrap><wrap quote>and hence again the growth in the world today <wrap hide>1075\|01:25:42\|350\|01:25:43\|830</wrap>of the psychic senses</wrap> <wrap hide>1076\|01:25:44\|730\|01:25:46\|910</wrap>This is under Neptune, isn't it? <wrap hide>1077\|01:25:47\|490\|01:25:49\|530</wrap><wrap quote>and the appearance on every hand of the subtler <wrap hide>1078\|01:25:50\|260\|01:25:53\|470</wrap>and more esoteric powers of clair-voyance <wrap hide>1079\|01:25:55\|330\|01:25:56\|570</wrap>and clair-audience.</wrap> <wrap hide>1080\|01:25:57\|340\|01:25:59\|310</wrap>So here and there they have been— <wrap hide>1081\|01:25:59\|310\|01:26:02\|970</wrap>here and there, accurate psychics. <wrap hide>1082\|01:26:04\|130\|01:26:07\|210</wrap>I guess Jeffrey Hudson is a good example <wrap hide>1083\|01:26:08\|050\|01:26:11\|890</wrap>of a level-headed, intelligent, respectable psychic, <wrap hide>1084\|01:26:11\|890\|01:26:14\|530</wrap>and I'm sure there are many more <wrap hide>1085\|01:26:14\|850\|01:26:19\|030</wrap>working in psychic research under the fifth and seventh rays. <wrap hide>1086\|01:26:20\|150\|01:26:24\|390</wrap>But I think, using the general sensitivity of Neptune <wrap hide>1087\|01:26:24\|390\|01:26:29\|310</wrap>and in a way, Mars can be considered <wrap hide>1088\|01:26:29\|310\|01:26:30\|870</wrap>a kind of polar opposite of Neptune— <wrap hide>1089\|01:26:30\|870\|01:26:32\|830</wrap>Neptune, the planet of subtlety, <wrap hide>1090\|01:26:32\|970\|01:26:34\|250</wrap>the planet of water, of life, <wrap hide>1091\|01:26:35\|710\|01:26:38\|210</wrap>and Mars, the planet of objectivity, <wrap hide>1092\|01:26:40\|530\|01:26:47\|790</wrap>of blood and of matter and lower energy. <wrap hide>1093\|01:26:59\|070\|01:27:02\|830</wrap>So I would not at all be surprised to see <wrap hide>1094\|01:27:02\|970\|01:27:05\|570</wrap>scientists involved in psychic research <wrap hide>1095\|01:27:05\|570\|01:27:09\|350</wrap>having a strong Neptune in their chart. <wrap hide>1096\|01:27:10\|010\|01:27:13\|250</wrap>And of course, if they wish to correlate what is found <wrap hide>1097\|01:27:13\|250\|01:27:16\|550</wrap>with the conventional revelation of the senses, <wrap hide>1098\|01:27:16\|550\|01:27:18\|190</wrap>perhaps Mars is strong as well, <wrap hide>1099\|01:27:18\|190\|01:27:20\|310</wrap>and Saturn is very important. <wrap hide>1100\|01:27:22\|170\|01:27:25\|290</wrap>The blend of subtlety, Neptune, and <wrap hide>1101\|01:27:25\|790\|01:27:27\|610</wrap>the concrete nature, Saturn, Mars, <wrap hide>1102\|01:27:27\|610\|01:27:30\|150</wrap>is important for the corroboration <wrap hide>1103\|01:27:30\|150\|01:27:35\|610</wrap>of that which the subtle senses reveal. <wrap hide>1104\|01:27:36\|470\|01:27:39\|610</wrap>So <wrap quote>This development is inevitable <wrap hide>1105\|01:27:40\|370\|01:27:45\|010</wrap>as the influence of Scorpio and of Mars <wrap hide>1106\|01:27:46\|150\|01:27:48\|230</wrap>begins to lessen, <wrap hide>1107\|01:27:50\|770\|01:27:52\|830</wrap>as is the case today.</wrap> <wrap hide>1108\|01:27:52\|830\|01:27:56\|190</wrap>Now here is a statement which makes me think that <wrap hide>1109\|01:27:56\|190\|01:27:58\|730</wrap>some of what was written here <wrap hide>1110\|01:27:58\|730\|01:28:01\|090</wrap>has been interpolated from later writings. <wrap hide>1111\|01:28:02\|750\|01:28:06\|990</wrap>It doesn't say the year 1945 will see this influence <wrap hide>1112\|01:28:06\|990\|01:28:08\|430</wrap>almost completely vanish, <wrap hide>1113\|01:28:09\|830\|01:28:10\|550</wrap>but <wrap hide>1114\|01:28:14\|790\|01:28:16\|970</wrap>it seems to suggest <wrap hide>1115\|01:28:18\|690\|01:28:22\|570</wrap>that the writing has occurred after 1945. <wrap hide>1116\|01:28:23\|670\|01:28:26\|530</wrap>So I'm not sure how this was all put together, <wrap hide>1117\|01:28:26\|530\|01:28:29\|830</wrap>but the year 1945 saw this— <wrap hide>1118\|01:28:30\|610\|01:28:33\|030</wrap>I suppose cruder Martian influence— <wrap hide>1119\|01:28:33\|030\|01:28:34\|770</wrap>this influence almost completely vanished, <wrap hide>1120\|01:28:35\|610\|01:28:36\|830</wrap>particularly from the astral plane. <wrap hide>1121\|01:28:36\|830\|01:28:41\|070</wrap>I suppose people had no more desire to fight <wrap hide>1122\|01:28:41\|610\|01:28:43\|690</wrap>after 1945, and an era <wrap hide>1123\|01:28:44\|650\|01:28:47\|470</wrap>which was intended to see the building of the peace <wrap hide>1124\|01:28:47\|470\|01:28:48\|830</wrap>through the United Nations <wrap hide>1125\|01:28:49\|550\|01:28:50\|610</wrap>did supervene. <wrap hide>1126\|01:28:52\|910\|01:28:55\|190</wrap>So sometimes when we're looking at these books, <wrap hide>1127\|01:28:55\|190\|01:28:56\|250</wrap>even though we know <wrap hide>1128\|01:28:57\|110\|01:28:59\|250</wrap>when certain parts of them were written, <wrap hide>1129\|01:28:59\|250\|01:29:04\|190</wrap>other parts may have been interpolated from later periods. <wrap hide>1130\|01:29:04\|190\|01:29:07\|610</wrap>The book came out in terms of lessons, <wrap hide>1131\|01:29:07\|610\|01:29:11\|910</wrap>and maybe when these lessons were assembled <wrap hide>1132\|01:29:11\|910\|01:29:14\|430</wrap>and later published as books, <wrap hide>1133\|01:29:15\|270\|01:29:17\|250</wrap>a mixture was present. <wrap hide>1134\|01:29:18\|470\|01:29:20\|540</wrap>I suspect that Esoteric Astrology <wrap hide>1135\|01:29:20\|910\|01:29:24\|730</wrap>was not published as a book until the 1950s. <wrap hide>1136\|01:29:26\|350\|01:29:26\|990</wrap>Anyway, <wrap hide>1137\|01:29:32\|010\|01:29:34\|490</wrap>when D.K. then could be speaking <wrap hide>1138\|01:29:34\|490\|01:29:38\|210</wrap>of the period 1950, <wrap hide>1139\|01:29:38\|210\|01:29:40\|950</wrap>in which we would see the waning <wrap hide>1140\|01:29:41\|830\|01:29:43\|670</wrap>of the Martian influence— <wrap hide>1141\|01:29:43\|670\|01:29:48\|070</wrap>he said it would be within the next five years or so <wrap hide>1142\|01:29:48\|070\|01:29:49\|390</wrap>it would wane. <wrap hide>1143\|01:29:49\|390\|01:29:51\|830</wrap>and if he's writing around the year 1945, <wrap hide>1144\|01:29:51\|830\|01:29:57\|410</wrap>then it's understandable that he's talking about a time ahead. <wrap hide>1145\|01:29:59\|250\|01:30:04\|630</wrap>So a materiality lessening as Mars nears the end of its present <wrap hide>1146\|01:30:04\|630\|01:30:06\|910</wrap>cycle of influence. <wrap hide>1147\|01:30:16\|910\|01:30:21\|510</wrap>So <wrap quote>The year 1945 saw this influence almost completely vanish, <wrap hide>1148\|01:30:21\|830\|01:30:23\|710</wrap> particularly from the astral plane.</wrap> <wrap hide>1149\|01:30:23\|710\|01:30:26\|330</wrap>There's still many, many wars going on, <wrap hide>1150\|01:30:26\|330\|01:30:27\|990</wrap>and sometimes astonishing to realize <wrap hide>1151\|01:30:28\|770\|01:30:32\|770</wrap>how many smaller wars have occurred during the 20th century. <wrap hide>1152\|01:30:34\|730\|01:30:37\|110</wrap>Indeed, a warring century. <wrap hide>1153\|01:30:38\|150\|01:30:41\|290</wrap>We sometimes think only in terms of the major wars, <wrap hide>1154\|01:30:43\|170\|01:30:46\|470</wrap>but many lesser wars have been occurring. <wrap hide>1155\|01:30:50\|310\|01:30:55\|730</wrap>So anyway, the ruling of the astral plane by Mars <wrap hide>1156\|01:30:55\|730\|01:30:59\|050</wrap>is very important because where there is the desire for fighting, <wrap hide>1157\|01:31:00\|010\|01:31:01\|810</wrap>it's far more serious <wrap hide>1158\|01:31:03\|230\|01:31:06\|930</wrap>than the working out upon the physical plane <wrap hide>1159\|01:31:07\|690\|01:31:09\|950</wrap>of occasional skirmishes. <wrap hide>1160\|01:31:10\|930\|01:31:12\|790</wrap>When the desire wanes <wrap hide>1161\|01:31:12\|790\|01:31:16\|450</wrap>and the force fighting upon the physical plane will also wane. <wrap hide>1162\|01:31:16\|450\|01:31:20\|030</wrap>But again, we almost see strangely, <wrap hide>1163\|01:31:21\|790\|01:31:25\|370</wrap>as Mars approached its closest position to the earth <wrap hide>1164\|01:31:25\|370\|01:31:26\|810</wrap>in many years— <wrap hide>1165\|01:31:26\|810\|01:31:31\|050</wrap>the closest in 70,000 years just recently, <wrap hide>1166\|01:31:32\|570\|01:31:35\|310</wrap>a couple three years ago, was it— <wrap hide>1167\|01:31:36\|150\|01:31:41\|330</wrap>there's again been the rising of the desire to fight, <wrap hide>1168\|01:31:41\|330\|01:31:44\|590</wrap>the kind of Armageddon consciousness <wrap hide>1169\|01:31:45\|410\|01:31:47\|850</wrap>and the desires associated with that. <wrap hide>1170\|01:31:48\|410\|01:31:51\|110</wrap>Some sixth-ray types seeking to bring this on <wrap hide>1171\|01:31:51\|110\|01:31:55\|070</wrap>because it promises the end of a limited world <wrap hide>1172\|01:31:55\|070\|01:31:59\|830</wrap>and the onset of a paradisiacal world, <wrap hide>1173\|01:32:00\|410\|01:32:01\|690</wrap>a heavenly world. <wrap hide>1174\|01:32:02\|450\|01:32:04\|590</wrap>And others because it promises <wrap hide>1175\|01:32:05\|410\|01:32:08\|630</wrap>the domination of their ideology over other ideologies. <wrap hide>1176\|01:32:08\|630\|01:32:14\|430</wrap>So again, the desire to fight has been rising. <wrap hide>1177\|01:32:15\|270\|01:32:19\|090</wrap>This is some 60 years later. <wrap hide>1178\|01:32:19\|710\|01:32:23\|870</wrap>So let us see when the Tibetan again writes <wrap hide>1179\|01:32:23\|870\|01:32:25\|970</wrap>how he describes this particular period <wrap hide>1180\|01:32:26\|530\|01:32:29\|150</wrap>in relation to the planet Mars. <wrap hide>1181\|01:32:30\|590\|01:32:33\|410</wrap><wrap quote>Astrologers would do well to remember that the influence <wrap hide>1182\|01:32:33\|410\|01:32:36\|690</wrap>of the constellations, signs and planets, <wrap hide>1183\|01:32:36\|690\|01:32:39\|710</wrap>work out upon three levels of awareness— </wrap><wrap hide>1184\|01:32:39\|710\|01:32:44\|170</wrap>This is one of those important, important hints: <wrap hide>1185\|01:32:45\|570\|01:32:47\|670</wrap><wrap quote>three descending levels— <wrap hide>1186\|01:32:47\|670\|01:32:53\|690</wrap>and are felt first of all upon the mental plane, <wrap hide>1187\|01:32:54\|770\|01:32:58\|130</wrap>then upon the astral plane and finally upon the physical plane.</wrap> <wrap hide>1188\|01:33:00\|470\|01:33:03\|490</wrap>Well, I think there are certain descending influences <wrap hide>1189\|01:33:03\|490\|01:33:07\|550</wrap>which will continue to work out on the physical plane <wrap hide>1190\|01:33:07\|550\|01:33:11\|310</wrap>even though a keen desire for their working out <wrap hide>1191\|01:33:11\|310\|01:33:13\|170</wrap>is no longer sustaining them. <wrap hide>1192\|01:33:14\|170\|01:33:17\|330</wrap>But where the astral plane, at least in some <wrap hide>1193\|01:33:17\|330\|01:33:20\|110</wrap>is becoming re-energized for a great battle, <wrap hide>1194\|01:33:21\|310\|01:33:26\|880</wrap>then we can only hope that the fading out of the six-ray cycle <wrap hide>1195\|01:33:28\|610\|01:33:33\|410</wrap>somehow neutralizes the possibility of this desire for battle <wrap hide>1196\|01:33:34\|710\|01:33:36\|850</wrap>precipitating upon the physical plane. <wrap hide>1197\|01:33:38\|510\|01:33:40\|690</wrap>There are so many intricate cycles. <wrap hide>1198\|01:33:41\|230\|01:33:44\|230</wrap>D.K. speaks of cycles of which we can have no knowledge, <wrap hide>1199\|01:33:44\|750\|01:33:48\|450</wrap>and he gives their starting points as years <wrap hide>1200\|01:33:49\|210\|01:33:53\|510</wrap>which we might never think of as starting points. <wrap hide>1201\|01:33:54\|190\|01:33:58\|070</wrap>So there are greater and lesser cycles, and about them we know very little. <wrap hide>1202\|01:33:59\|070\|01:34:00\|490</wrap>But we must know more. <wrap hide>1203\|01:34:02\|890\|01:34:07\|190</wrap>And when all knowledge is achieved on the third level of the atmic plane, <wrap hide>1204\|01:34:07\|190\|01:34:09\|050</wrap>presumably by a master, <wrap hide>1205\|01:34:10\|830\|01:34:13\|870</wrap>then this type of knowledge of cycles will be ours. <wrap hide>1206\|01:34:13\|870\|01:34:18\|610</wrap>Right now we have to piece this knowledge together as best we can. <wrap hide>1207\|01:34:19\|870\|01:34:21\|970</wrap>Some have done a good job with this, <wrap hide>1208\|01:34:22\|570\|01:34:29\|570</wrap>taking the hints that are given and discerning some cyclic truth. <wrap hide>1209\|01:34:30\|490\|01:34:33\|530</wrap>I think Stephen Pugh has done a good job with this, <wrap hide>1210\|01:34:34\|650\|01:34:38\|550</wrap>piecing together the probable ray cycles, <wrap hide>1211\|01:34:38\|550\|01:34:40\|930</wrap>but there's still much more, <wrap hide>1212\|01:34:41\|570\|01:34:45\|270</wrap>with cycles and sub-cycles and sub-sub-cycles and so forth, <wrap hide>1213\|01:34:45\|270\|01:34:46\|990</wrap>which are indeed relevant. <wrap hide>1214\|01:34:49\|510\|01:34:53\|390</wrap>OK, <wrap quote>But it is with this last plane</wrap> namely the physical plane, <wrap hide>1215\|01:34:53\|390\|01:34:55\|930</wrap><wrap quote>that astrologers are primarily concerned,</wrap> <wrap hide>1216\|01:34:55\|930\|01:34:58\|990</wrap>speaking of very exoteric astrologers, <wrap hide>1217\|01:34:58\|990\|01:35:05\|890</wrap>because they're working very much in the realm of effects. <wrap hide>1218\|01:35:09\|110\|01:35:13\|150</wrap>So they are <wrap quote>emphasising happenings and events <wrap hide>1219\|01:35:14\|070\|01:35:16\|210</wrap>and not their conditioning causes.</wrap> <wrap hide>1220\|01:35:16\|210\|01:35:21\|170</wrap>Well, that's one of the ways in which esoteric astrology <wrap hide>1221\|01:35:21\|170\|01:35:26\|230</wrap>will decrease our ignorance in this area. <wrap hide>1222\|01:35:26\|230\|01:35:31\|670</wrap>It will emphasize conditioning causes which inevitably work out, <wrap hide>1223\|01:35:31\|670\|01:35:36\|150</wrap>and then attention will be placed upon dealing with the causes <wrap hide>1224\|01:35:36\|150\|01:35:39\|690</wrap>and not simply with the effects. <wrap hide>1225\|01:35:39\|690\|01:35:43\|310</wrap>And in that way, we shall become much more effective <wrap hide>1226\|01:35:43\|930\|01:35:47\|970</wrap>in changing and transforming those conditions <wrap hide>1227\|01:35:47\|970\|01:35:50\|610</wrap>which must be changed and transformed. <wrap hide>1228\|01:35:50\|930\|01:35:54\|110</wrap> DK says <wrap quote>At present, astrology deals with effects <wrap hide>1229\|01:35:54\|110\|01:35:57\|350</wrap>and not with that which is causing them.</wrap> <wrap hide>1230\|01:35:57\|350\|01:36:00\|270</wrap>But I think those of us who have studied esoteric astrology— <wrap hide>1231\|01:36:00\|950\|01:36:07\|870</wrap>we do realize that we are shifting our understanding <wrap hide>1232\|01:36:07\|870\|01:36:10\|030</wrap>into the world of causes. <wrap hide>1233\|01:36:12\|510\|01:36:15\|570</wrap><wrap quote>There is much confusion over this matter <wrap hide>1234\|01:36:15\|570\|01:36:20\|250</wrap>and the horoscopes of the three levels are often much distorted.</wrap> <wrap hide>1235\|01:36:22\|070\|01:36:26\|750</wrap>And this must have been very new information at the time it was given. <wrap hide>1236\|01:36:28\|050\|01:36:32\|310</wrap><wrap quote>A horoscope which could be interpreted purely upon the mental plane <wrap hide>1237\|01:36:32\|310\|01:36:35\|590</wrap>is given a physical interpretation, and thus happenings <wrap hide>1238\|01:36:36\|030\|01:36:40\|630</wrap>which are entirely mental are portrayed as physical occurrences.</wrap> <wrap hide>1239\|01:36:40\|890\|01:36:44\|090</wrap>You kind of wonder how these horoscopes can be set up. <wrap hide>1240\|01:36:44\|090\|01:36:47\|430</wrap>Do we leave the horoscope as it is? <wrap hide>1241\|01:36:47\|430\|01:36:52\|710</wrap>Do we put a particular planet which rules a particular plane <wrap hide>1242\|01:36:53\|350\|01:36:55\|490</wrap>on the ascendant of the horoscope <wrap hide>1243\|01:36:56\|090\|01:37:00\|510</wrap>and thus create a house configuration <wrap hide>1244\|01:37:00\|510\|01:37:07\|050</wrap>which more truly represents activity upon the particular plane <wrap hide>1245\|01:37:07\|050\|01:37:09\|670</wrap>associated with that planet? <wrap hide>1246\|01:37:09\|670\|01:37:12\|030</wrap>There is much experimentation which can be done, <wrap hide>1247\|01:37:12\|030\|01:37:17\|870</wrap>but of course, the realm of imagination or fancy enters, <wrap hide>1248\|01:37:17\|870\|01:37:21\|370</wrap>so we have to make sure that our multiple speculations <wrap hide>1249\|01:37:21\|630\|01:37:24\|230</wrap>are actually correlated with facts <wrap hide>1250\|01:37:24\|930\|01:37:29\|130</wrap>and not arbitrarily imposed upon facts, <wrap hide>1251\|01:37:30\|070\|01:37:34\|490</wrap>skewing the interpretation—the correct interpretation of those facts. <wrap hide>1252\|01:37:35\|730\|01:37:38\|710</wrap>So thus, happenings which are entirely mental <wrap hide>1253\|01:37:38\|710\|01:37:40\|410</wrap>are portrayed as physical occurrences. <wrap hide>1254\|01:37:40\|410\|01:37:42\|750</wrap>And when we're interpreting horoscopes, <wrap hide>1255\|01:37:43\|230\|01:37:47\|310</wrap>we have to speak of changes in mind, changes in the emotional nature, <wrap hide>1256\|01:37:47\|310\|01:37:51\|710</wrap>finally changes in the realm of physical plane effects. <wrap hide>1257\|01:37:52\|690\|01:37:56\|790</wrap><wrap quote>A clue to this triple interpretation which astrology must eventually recognise <wrap hide>1258\|01:37:58\|090\|01:38:04\|730</wrap>can be found in the relation of the orthodox, the esoteric and the hierarchical planets <wrap hide>1259\|01:38:05\|310\|01:38:09\|310</wrap>and the rays of which they are the expression.</wrap> <wrap hide>1260\|01:38:09\|310\|01:38:14\|490</wrap>And I do know that some astrologers have taken this sentence <wrap hide>1261\|01:38:15\|890\|01:38:23\|670</wrap>and have made a correlation of orthodox planets <wrap hide>1262\|01:38:24\|390\|01:38:27\|230</wrap>with the realm of physical events, <wrap hide>1263\|01:38:27\|230\|01:38:30\|190</wrap>of esoteric planets with emotional changes, <wrap hide>1264\|01:38:30\|190\|01:38:37\|090</wrap>and of hierarchical planets and rulers <wrap hide>1265\|01:38:37\|090\|01:38:39\|690</wrap>with changes upon the mental plane. <wrap hide>1266\|01:38:41\|510\|01:38:44\|930</wrap>We can see the extent to which this actually does work out. <wrap hide>1267\|01:38:44\|930\|01:38:48\|970</wrap>Of course, you know, in general, esoteric rulers <wrap hide>1268\|01:38:50\|830\|01:38:54\|470</wrap>are employed when a degree of soul expression <wrap hide>1269\|01:38:55\|450\|01:38:57\|030</wrap>is coming into the life, <wrap hide>1270\|01:38:57\|030\|01:39:00\|010</wrap>and hierarchical rulers are employed when <wrap hide>1271\|01:39:01\|890\|01:39:04\|610</wrap>the expression of the spirit, the monad, <wrap hide>1272\|01:39:05\|450\|01:39:07\|590</wrap>is becoming somewhat real. <wrap hide>1273\|01:39:07\|590\|01:39:10\|630</wrap>Of course, the monad reflects itself in the mind. <wrap hide>1274\|01:39:11\|570\|01:39:13\|870</wrap>The monadic ray reflects itself in the mind. <wrap hide>1275\|01:39:13\|870\|01:39:15\|850</wrap>The soul ray reflects itself in the astral body. <wrap hide>1276\|01:39:15\|850\|01:39:20\|790</wrap>And the personality ray reflects itself in the physical body. <wrap hide>1277\|01:39:20\|790\|01:39:26\|710</wrap>So you can see this lesser subset of mind, emotions, and body <wrap hide>1278\|01:39:26\|710\|01:39:30\|450</wrap>as correlated with monad, soul, and personality. <wrap hide>1279\|01:39:30\|450\|01:39:35\|710</wrap>So there's probably a theoretical justification <wrap hide>1280\|01:39:36\|530\|01:39:41\|350</wrap>for doing as these often quite accomplished astrologers do. <wrap hide>1281\|01:39:42\|230\|01:39:47\|830</wrap>The question is, how much of the content of mind, emotions, and body <wrap hide>1282\|01:39:47\|830\|01:39:52\|130</wrap>are actually revealed by applying these three sets of rulerships <wrap hide>1283\|01:39:52\|130\|01:39:53\|470</wrap>as presently applied? <wrap hide>1284\|01:39:54\|350\|01:39:59\|570</wrap>This is something which has to be laboriously established <wrap hide>1285\|01:40:00\|450\|01:40:05\|490</wrap>and has to remain a matter of theoretical interest. <wrap hide>1286\|01:40:39\|830\|01:40:41\|230</wrap>Hmm. <wrap hide>1287\|01:41:36\|870\|01:41:44\|310</wrap>Okay, continuing here. There may have been a little technical hiatus. <wrap hide>1288\|01:41:47\|830\|01:41:59\|290</wrap>So we have this method of looking at the three levels of planets related to the three lower <wrap hide>1289\|01:41:59\|290\|01:42:04\|890</wrap>vehicles, as each one of these vehicles represents one of the periodical vehicles. <wrap hide>1290\|01:42:07\|870\|01:42:15\|170</wrap>The physical body represents the personality as a periodical vehicle, the astral body represents <wrap hide>1291\|01:42:15\|170\|01:42:22\|910</wrap>the soul, causal body as a periodical vehicle, and then the mind represents the monad as <wrap hide>1292\|01:42:22\|910\|01:42:24\|450</wrap>a periodical vehicle. <wrap hide>1293\|01:42:25\|450\|01:42:30\|570</wrap>So, D.K. is impressing upon us the importance of Scorpio and Mars. <wrap hide>1294\|01:42:32\|180\|01:42:38\|310</wrap>Not necessarily the most pleasant energies in the Lebron sense of pleasantness, of harmony <wrap hide>1295\|01:42:38\|310\|01:42:42\|830</wrap>and beauty in the normal sense. <wrap hide>1296\|01:42:44\|880\|01:42:51\|390</wrap>He says <wrap quote>You will see from this how important are the functions of Scorpio and Mars upon <wrap hide>1297\|01:42:51\|390\|01:42:59\|850</wrap>our planet at this time, and you will note also how brief a time remains in which humanity <wrap hide>1298\|01:42:59\|850\|01:43:05\|290</wrap>can (rightly or wrongly) handle its tests.</wrap> <wrap hide>1299\|01:43:06\|530\|01:43:09\|370</wrap>Now you know, when was this written? <wrap hide>1300\|01:43:11\|610\|01:43:20\|350</wrap>If it was written in 1945, then D.K. may be looking toward the future which includes even our <wrap hide>1301\|01:43:20\|350\|01:43:29\|230</wrap>present era, saying that we are within that brief time wherein these tests must be handled. <wrap hide>1302\|01:43:29\|310\|01:43:39\|410</wrap>If it was written earlier, say in the '30s, then the question of the impending Second <wrap hide>1303\|01:43:39\|410\|01:43:41\|970</wrap>World War could have been considered. <wrap hide>1304\|01:43:44\|410\|01:43:55\|530</wrap>He says <wrap quote>You will realise also the pressure under which the Hierarchy at this time struggles <wrap hide>1305\|01:43:56\|970\|01:44:00\|150</wrap>now that Martian energy is expressing itself upon the astral plane.</wrap> <wrap hide>1306\|01:44:00\|390\|01:44:08\|750</wrap>Well, see, doesn't it almost look as if this section was written before the preceding section <wrap hide>1307\|01:44:08\|750\|01:44:17\|630</wrap>which said the period of 1945 saw the highest expression of Mars, especially upon the astral <wrap hide>1308\|01:44:17\|630\|01:44:18\|070</wrap>plane? <wrap hide>1309\|01:44:20\|930\|01:44:23\|450</wrap>Let's see if we can... <wrap hide>1310\|01:44:23\|450\|01:44:30\|010</wrap>The year 1945 saw this influence almost completely vanish, and then down here where we're reading <wrap hide>1311\|01:44:31\|050\|01:44:45\|710</wrap>it, we see that in fact he's telling us something about now that the Martian energy is expressing <wrap hide>1312\|01:44:45\|710\|01:44:47\|090</wrap>itself upon the astral plane. <wrap hide>1313\|01:44:48\|460\|01:44:52\|850</wrap>So there's quite a difference between Martian energy almost completely vanishing in 1945 <wrap hide>1314\|01:44:53\|500\|01:44:58\|930</wrap>and the idea of Mars expressing itself strongly upon the astral plane, which suggests to me <wrap hide>1315\|01:44:58\|930\|01:45:06\|750</wrap>that the section we're now reading was written earlier than the section which preceded it. <wrap hide>1316\|01:45:10\|070\|01:45:16\|610</wrap>So humanity really had to handle its tests during the Second World War if this was written <wrap hide>1317\|01:45:16\|610\|01:45:25\|050</wrap>in the '30s, and humanity could have gone down and almost did, as we have been told in the <wrap hide>1318\|01:45:25\|050\|01:45:34\|650</wrap>early... before the sun moved northward in 1942, when the Hierarchy was packing its bags, <wrap hide>1319\|01:45:34\|870\|01:45:42\|490</wrap>so to speak, preparing to withdraw, believing that humanity would go down to defeat. <wrap hide>1320\|01:45:45\|370\|01:45:53\|750</wrap>But if this was written in the '30s, then apparently we have passed some tests and did not go down; <wrap hide>1321\|01:45:53\|750\|01:45:55\|870</wrap>at least then we did not go down. <wrap hide>1322\|01:45:57\|030\|01:46:00\|590</wrap>Hierarchy certainly struggles under pressures even though their sense of time is completely <wrap hide>1323\|01:46:00\|590\|01:46:06\|370</wrap>different than our own, and even though they realize in a way the illusory nature of time <wrap hide>1324\|01:46:06\|370\|01:46:11\|890</wrap>as commonly understood, they do have time pressures and speak now of how brief a time <wrap hide>1325\|01:46:11\|890\|01:46:12\|470</wrap>remains. <wrap hide>1326\|01:46:13\|450\|01:46:18\|990</wrap>This is a master speaking, and he's speaking of time as we usually conceive it. <wrap hide>1327\|01:46:19\|870\|01:46:25\|350</wrap>Time as an aspect of the world of illusion with which we have to deal. <wrap hide>1328\|01:46:27\|630\|01:46:30\|830</wrap>Did humanity rightly handle its tests? <wrap hide>1329\|01:46:31\|050\|01:46:34\|770</wrap>Did it sweep the devils out of the home? <wrap hide>1330\|01:46:35\|950\|01:46:38\|210</wrap>Later perhaps to find that more entered? <wrap hide>1331\|01:46:38\|490\|01:46:47\|470</wrap>Okay, but did it at least succeed in the second phase of the war? <wrap hide>1332\|01:46:48\|770\|01:46:50\|930</wrap>To clean house? <wrap hide>1333\|01:46:53\|270\|01:47:00\|070</wrap>Anyway, Hierarchy was extremely mobilized during the period of the Second World War <wrap hide>1334\|01:47:01\|490\|01:47:08\|510</wrap>and even in the Tibetan's communications with his students through Alice Bailey, we see <wrap hide>1335\|01:47:09\|150\|01:47:12\|550</wrap>the degree of his involvement, the degree of his preoccupation. <wrap hide>1336\|01:47:12\|550\|01:47:21\|350</wrap>At one point, two years passed between his communications to the group that he was cultivating. <wrap hide>1337\|01:47:22\|910\|01:47:30\|370</wrap>He must have been very busy indeed with the most pressing matters designed to help humanity <wrap hide>1338\|01:47:32\|730\|01:47:34\|590</wrap>succeed and not go down. <wrap hide>1339\|01:47:36\|410\|01:47:42\|110</wrap><wrap quote>Will the world Hercules lift this problem up into heaven and "elevate the Hydra" of passion <wrap hide>1340\|01:47:42\|110\|01:47:54\|310</wrap>and hate, of greed and aggression, and of selfishness and ambition up into the region <wrap hide>1341\|01:47:54\|310\|01:47:54\|810</wrap>of the soul.</wrap> <wrap hide>1342\|01:47:54\|970\|01:47:59\|450</wrap>Will these lower tendencies be seen? <wrap hide>1343\|01:48:00\|370\|01:48:06\|650</wrap>Will they be neutralized by that neutral form of electricity, solar fire? <wrap hide>1344\|01:48:06\|650\|01:48:12\|470</wrap>Will they be overcome, lifted up into the region of the soul? <wrap hide>1345\|01:48:14\|290\|01:48:23\|390</wrap><wrap quote>Or will it (humanity, the disciple, the world Hercules) carry the whole matter down onto <wrap hide>1346\|01:48:23\|390\|01:48:29\|470</wrap>the physical plane with the inevitable corollary of world disaster, world war and death.</wrap> <wrap hide>1347\|01:48:29\|670\|01:48:34\|830</wrap>Well, indeed, there was world disaster, world war, and death. <wrap hide>1348\|01:48:35\|330\|01:48:41\|030</wrap>In other words, it seems here that he's writing in such a sense that he's questioning whether <wrap hide>1349\|01:48:41\|030\|01:48:46\|930</wrap>there will be a second phase of the great war, which ended with an armistice in 1918. <wrap hide>1350\|01:48:48\|250\|01:48:51\|650</wrap>Would there be a second phase because they struggled mightily to prevent that second <wrap hide>1351\|01:48:51\|650\|01:48:52\|070</wrap>phase? <wrap hide>1352\|01:48:52\|430\|01:48:59\|710</wrap>And humanity, the world Hercules, did carry the whole matter down. <wrap hide>1353\|01:49:00\|330\|01:49:02\|070</wrap>And there was world disaster. <wrap hide>1354\|01:49:02\|230\|01:49:03\|230</wrap>There certainly was world war. <wrap hide>1355\|01:49:03\|230\|01:49:04\|490</wrap>We call it World War Two. <wrap hide>1356\|01:49:05\|150\|01:49:15\|270</wrap>There was a huge reaping, culling of human beings through the processes of death, millions <wrap hide>1357\|01:49:15\|270\|01:49:16\|150</wrap>and millions. <wrap hide>1358\|01:49:17\|610\|01:49:21\|850</wrap><wrap quote>Such are the problems with which the guiding Hierarchy is faced.</wrap> and they are faced with <wrap hide>1359\|01:49:21\|850\|01:49:23\|690</wrap>it in the time sense. <wrap hide>1360\|01:49:23\|930\|01:49:31\|610</wrap>Now, if for instance, this was written at the same time as a writing, which could say <wrap hide>1361\|01:49:31\|610\|01:49:38\|650</wrap>when 1945 came, this occurred, so then in the forties, then D.K. could be speaking of <wrap hide>1362\|01:49:38\|650\|01:49:48\|630</wrap>our present time and wondering whether we would succeed in avoiding world war disaster <wrap hide>1363\|01:49:49\|380\|01:49:49\|970</wrap>and death. <wrap hide>1364\|01:49:50\|150\|01:49:57\|810</wrap>And these things still face us, although he did say that the Shambhala impact of the year <wrap hide>1365\|01:49:57\|810\|01:50:05\|750</wrap>2000 could be succeeded by perhaps less destruction than previous Shambhala impacts. <wrap hide>1366\|01:50:08\|240\|01:50:13\|810</wrap>So there's a little, little ambiguity here, but certainly we can interpret it in both <wrap hide>1367\|01:50:13\|810\|01:50:14\|130</wrap>ways. <wrap hide>1368\|01:50:14\|130\|01:50:19\|270</wrap>And I think it makes a lot of sense to interpret this in terms of the possibly impending second <wrap hide>1369\|01:50:19\|270\|01:50:26\|550</wrap>world war, which the hierarchy sought to avert through the good offices of the disciples <wrap hide>1370\|01:50:26\|550\|01:50:34\|410</wrap>of the world who were not powerful enough or perhaps numerous enough to avert world <wrap hide>1371\|01:50:34\|410\|01:50:34\|810</wrap>war. <wrap hide>1372\|01:50:37\|320\|01:50:43\|750</wrap>The question is still one which comes before us, especially in a nuclear age. <wrap hide>1373\|01:50:43\|910\|01:50:49\|290</wrap>I believe that hierarchy had so much rearranging of its plans due to the release of atomic <wrap hide>1374\|01:50:49\|290\|01:50:51\|950</wrap>energy through the atomic bomb. <wrap hide>1375\|01:50:51\|950\|01:51:04\|630</wrap>Um, so much rearranging of its hitherto created plans because the possibility of humanity <wrap hide>1376\|01:51:04\|630\|01:51:13\|370</wrap>truly annihilating itself quite permanently then loomed as a possibility. <wrap hide>1377\|01:51:14\|630\|01:51:19\|670</wrap>And D.K. did say it was a possibility which could be visioned, not some idle dream. <wrap hide>1378\|01:51:20\|710\|01:51:26\|510</wrap>So later D.K. will talk about the plans as they did exist for the reappearance of the Christ, <wrap hide>1379\|01:51:26\|590\|01:51:33\|590</wrap>I think in the 20th century and the plans as they had to be modified, I think due to <wrap hide>1380\|01:51:33\|590\|01:51:44\|270</wrap>the very real appearance of atomic energy through atomic weaponry, uh, at the end of <wrap hide>1381\|01:51:44\|270\|01:51:45\|770</wrap>the second world war. <wrap hide>1382\|01:51:46\|730\|01:51:54\|270</wrap>So hierarchy is faced with a great time problem and is trying to prevent even now humanity <wrap hide>1383\|01:51:54\|270\|01:52:03\|770</wrap>from going down, uh, in a still greater world disaster and greater world war and far more <wrap hide>1384\|01:52:03\|770\|01:52:11\|530</wrap>universal death than occurred even in the second world war, which he said, I think would <wrap hide>1385\|01:52:11\|530\|01:52:15\|910</wrap>be considered something like child's play compared to the war which could emerge. <wrap hide>1386\|01:52:17\|070\|01:52:22\|910</wrap><wrap quote>Scorpio is also most interestingly connected with the constellation, Cancer, through the <wrap hide>1387\|01:52:22\|910\|01:52:26\|690</wrap>influences of the sixth ray, </wrap>coming via Neptune. <wrap hide>1388\|01:52:27\|010\|01:52:27\|110</wrap>Correct? <wrap hide>1389\|01:52:27\|810\|01:52:34\|250</wrap>So there is the esoteric ruler Neptune and the hierarchy ruler Neptune conveying the <wrap hide>1390\|01:52:34\|250\|01:52:40\|770</wrap>sixth ray. Cancer itself as a constellation does not relate to the sixth ray of Mars. <wrap hide>1391\|01:52:42\|590\|01:52:47\|450</wrap><wrap quote>for it should be remembered that that ray is also expressing itself through Neptune, <wrap hide>1\|00:00:02\|480\|00:00:10\|320</wrap>but in a spiritual and esoteric manner.</wrap> related not to the blood, but to the life as he is <wrap hide>1393\|01:52:57\|390\|01:52:58\|310</wrap>fond of saying. <wrap hide>1394\|01:52:58\|310\|01:53:05\|670</wrap>So you know, the spiritualization of science is also related to Neptune and all of the <wrap hide>1395\|01:53:05\|670\|01:53:08\|530</wrap>psychic research which is underway. <wrap hide>1396\|01:53:11\|410\|01:53:14\|890</wrap><wrap quote>Neptune governs Cancer esoterically.</wrap> and also hierarchically. <wrap hide>1397\|01:53:15\|070\|01:53:19\|670</wrap><wrap quote>The significance is therefore clear, for Cancer is the sign of birth <wrap hide>1\|00:00:02\|480\|00:00:10\|320</wrap>it is the door into incarnation and the sign of generation.</wrap> The processes of creating the <wrap hide>1399\|01:53:27\|650\|01:53:35\|630</wrap>physical vehicle are undertaken in Cancer, the incarnation, the sacral center processes <wrap hide>1400\|01:53:35\|630\|01:53:37\|830</wrap>leading to incarnation. <wrap hide>1401\|01:53:38\|410\|01:53:43\|690</wrap>So the moon is connected with that sacral center from some perspective and the moon <wrap hide>1402\|01:53:43\|690\|01:53:45\|750</wrap>is also the ruler of Cancer. <wrap hide>1403\|01:53:46\|650\|01:53:51\|270</wrap>The desire for incarnation has created this descent into incarnation. <wrap hide>1404\|01:53:53\|290\|01:53:55\|930</wrap>Scorpio is the sign of sex and regeneration. <wrap hide>1405\|01:53:55\|930\|01:54:01\|230</wrap>Well, it's one of the signs of sex, Taurus being another, Libra being another. <wrap hide>1406\|01:54:01\|930\|01:54:07\|410</wrap>Scorpio is the sign of sex which leads to physical incarnation and Cancer. <wrap hide>1407\|01:54:08\|550\|01:54:15\|590</wrap>I don't know how we would count that: Scorpio, Sagittarius, Capricorn, Aquarius, Pisces, <wrap hide>1408\|01:54:17\|010\|01:54:18\|870</wrap>and then Aries, Taurus, Gemini. <wrap hide>1409\|01:54:18\|870\|01:54:27\|210</wrap>Well, if we count forward, we get nine signs and then the tenth sign being one of birth. <wrap hide>1410\|01:54:30\|090\|01:54:33\|410</wrap>So Scorpio is the sign of sex and of regeneration. <wrap hide>1411\|01:54:35\|330\|01:54:41\|790</wrap>So into matter and out of matter, regeneration, meaning that we regenerate ourselves and do <wrap hide>1412\|01:54:41\|790\|01:54:45\|810</wrap>not generate our own kind. <wrap hide>1413\|01:54:47\|050\|01:54:52\|250</wrap>My old teacher used to say that there comes a time in the life of every disciple when <wrap hide>1414\|01:54:53\|280\|01:55:01\|490</wrap>he ceases reproducing his own kind and then reproduces himself, which is interesting. <wrap hide>1415\|01:55:02\|790\|01:55:13\|410</wrap>The factor of regeneration has to do with building the new man in Christ, building the <wrap hide>1416\|01:55:13\|410\|01:55:18\|250</wrap>man who becomes the soul rather than the man who descends into incarnation. <wrap hide>1417\|01:55:19\|590\|01:55:25\|130</wrap>So true regeneration is, or the result of regeneration is occurring at the fourth initiation. <wrap hide>1418\|01:55:26\|110\|01:55:33\|850</wrap>But many things lead to that, a constant improvement on the generating of the self in its true <wrap hide>1419\|01:55:33\|850\|01:55:34\|510</wrap>nature. <wrap hide>1420\|01:55:36\|250\|01:55:42\|470</wrap><wrap quote>Scorpio is the sign of sex and of regeneration, </wrap>both together, <wrap quote>and birth (in Cancer) is ever <wrap hide>1421\|01:55:42\|470\|01:55:46\|350</wrap>the intended result of the sex relation.</wrap> <wrap hide>1422\|01:55:46\|370\|01:55:57\|790</wrap>So D.K. seems to be making a comment about our present attitudes towards sexuality as something <wrap hide>1423\|01:55:57\|790\|01:56:09\|830</wrap>psychological, as something to promote perhaps better physical health, something that is <wrap hide>1424\|01:56:09\|830\|01:56:17\|930</wrap>simply an indulgence of the instinctual nature without thought of the intended result, which <wrap hide>1425\|01:56:17\|930\|01:56:18\|870</wrap>is ever intended. <wrap hide>1426\|01:56:19\|930\|01:56:26\|830</wrap>He seems to be a conservative in this respect, and I think we do have much to learn from <wrap hide>1427\|01:56:26\|830\|01:56:27\|990</wrap>his ideas here. <wrap hide>1428\|01:56:28\|130\|01:56:31\|210</wrap>The Dalai Lama pretty much said the same. <wrap hide>1429\|01:56:31\|830\|01:56:39\|230</wrap>So right now these sexual forces are being prostituted in many ways through the glorification <wrap hide>1430\|01:56:39\|230\|01:56:40\|130</wrap>of the lower ego. <wrap hide>1431\|01:56:42\|210\|01:56:48\|070</wrap>It's difficult to extricate oneself from those tendencies, but a greater perspective makes <wrap hide>1432\|01:56:48\|070\|01:56:48\|850</wrap>that possible. <wrap hide>1433\|01:56:51\|280\|01:56:57\|090</wrap>Ever the intended result of the sexual, of the sex relation. <wrap hide>1434\|01:56:59\|470\|01:57:03\|670</wrap>So sex leads to birth as Scorpio leads to Cancer. <wrap hide>1435\|01:57:03\|670\|01:57:08\|030</wrap><wrap quote>Father-spirit and Mother-matter when brought together produce the Son.</wrap> <wrap hide>1436\|01:57:08\|950\|01:57:15\|030</wrap>And this is an extrapolation of the sexual relation toward a more cosmic perspective. <wrap hide>1437\|01:57:16\|370\|01:57:24\|190</wrap><wrap quote>The tests and difficulties and pains of this era are symptoms or indications of the "entering <wrap hide>1438\|01:57:24\|190\|01:57:27\|010</wrap>into manifestation" of the new civilisation and culture.</wrap> <wrap hide>1439\|01:57:27\|010\|01:57:34\|950</wrap>So Scorpio, by helping us to confront this pain, this pain which occurs when the soul <wrap hide>1440\|01:57:34\|950\|01:57:41\|730</wrap>descends into matter and attempts to establish its fifth kingdom within the realm of the <wrap hide>1441\|01:57:41\|730\|01:57:49\|990</wrap>fourth kingdom of nature, Scorpio assists with this descent, and the pains and difficulties <wrap hide>1442\|01:57:49\|990\|01:57:51\|130</wrap>are worth bearing. <wrap hide>1443\|01:57:52\|430\|01:57:54\|750</wrap>They are birthing pains in essence. <wrap hide>1444\|01:57:55\|810\|01:58:03\|390</wrap>So these pains and difficulties they portend says D.K. at <wrap quote>They portend the birth of the new era for <wrap hide>1445\|01:58:03\|390\|01:58:09\|790</wrap>which the entire world waits.</wrap> and much of the waiting is actually unconscious, unconscious <wrap hide>1446\|01:58:09\|790\|01:58:10\|230</wrap>waiting. <wrap hide>1447\|01:58:14\|180\|01:58:23\|990</wrap><wrap quote>This will happen if—</wrap>and D.K. does open the possibility here of delay</wrap>if—speaking esoterically— <wrap hide>1448\|01:58:23\|990\|01:58:33\|430</wrap>the sixth ray energy of Mars is transmuted into the sixth ray energy of Neptune, for the <wrap hide>1449\|01:58:33\|430\|01:58:39\|250</wrap>one is "objective and full of blood" and the other is "subjective and full of life."</wrap> <wrap hide>1450\|01:58:39\|370\|01:58:47\|710</wrap>That's the quotation which defines very clearly the relationship between Mars and Neptune. <wrap hide>1451\|01:58:49\|570\|01:58:58\|810</wrap>We do need the Christ, who is Vishnu, who is Neptune, who represents the great subjective <wrap hide>1452\|01:58:58\|810\|01:59:04\|350</wrap>life and who is the initiator of humanity for the first two initiations. <wrap hide>1453\|01:59:04\|590\|01:59:10\|950</wrap>Neptune is involved in that initiation process, producing essentially the mystic rather than <wrap hide>1454\|01:59:10\|950\|01:59:11\|790</wrap>the occultist. <wrap hide>1455\|01:59:12\|790\|01:59:20\|530</wrap>We need this very much, and the transmutative process is up to us. <wrap hide>1456\|01:59:22\|320\|01:59:40\|630</wrap>So I will end Esoteric Astrology Adventures 78B at this point, and we will see whether <wrap hide>1457\|01:59:40\|630\|01:59:44\|650</wrap>there will be a 78C or whether we will go on to 79. <wrap hide>1458\|01:59:44\|910\|01:59:59\|910</wrap>Let us together sound The Great Invocation, and it's good to see it for those who may <wrap hide>1459\|01:59:59\|910\|02:00:02\|370</wrap>not know it by heart. <wrap hide>1460\|02:00:11\|570\|02:00:19\|610</wrap>From the point of light within the mind of God, let light stream forth into the minds <wrap hide>1461\|02:00:19\|610\|02:00:20\|290</wrap>of men. <wrap hide>1462\|02:00:21\|230\|02:00:23\|310</wrap>Let light descend on Earth. <wrap hide>1463\|02:00:25\|910\|02:00:32\|090</wrap>From the point of love within the heart of God, let love stream forth into the hearts <wrap hide>1464\|02:00:32\|090\|02:00:32\|650</wrap>of men. <wrap hide>1465\|02:00:32\|870\|02:00:35\|410</wrap>May Christ return to Earth. <wrap hide>1466\|02:00:37\|970\|02:00:43\|730</wrap>From the center where the will of God is known, let purpose guide the little wills of men, <wrap hide>1467\|02:00:44\|770\|02:00:47\|730</wrap>the purpose which the masters know and serve. <wrap hide>1468\|02:00:50\|230\|02:00:55\|090</wrap>From the center which we call the race of men, let the plan of love and light work out <wrap hide>1469\|02:00:55\|090\|02:00:59\|050</wrap>and may it seal the door where evil dwells. <wrap hide>1470\|02:00:59\|050\|02:01:05\|950</wrap>Let light and love and power restore the plan on Earth. <wrap hide>1471\|02:01:12\|330\|02:01:25\|770</wrap>Let light and love and power restore the plan on Earth. <wrap hide>1472\|02:01:47\|250\|02:01:54\|090</wrap>Okay friends, we will move on with our discussion shortly. <wrap hide>1473\|02:01:58\|030\|02:02:01\|570</wrap>Continuing in the Scorpio chapter. <wrap hide>1474\|02:02:04\|310\|02:02:05\|990</wrap>See you then.