1|00:00:11|340|00:00:22|800Hi everybody, we are moving on now. We are in esoteric astrology adventure number 23, 2|00:00:22|800|00:00:36|440and today is the 24th of July 2011. In the last adventure we reviewed the names of the members 3|00:00:36|440|00:00:46|320of the fifth Creative Hierarchy and I'll simply name them, you know, and you can study number 22 4|00:00:46|320|00:00:54|960for what I have said about them. They are the builders of the body of the ego, the producers 5|00:00:54|960|00:01:03|700of individualization, producers of realized consciousness, the Agnishvattas, the great devas 6|00:01:03|700|00:01:13|260of mind, the self-consciousness or conscious principles, the builders of the egoic body, 7|00:01:13|260|00:01:21|160the planetary spirits, the Asuras, which are really like suriyas or suras, the solar angels, 8|00:01:21|360|00:01:28|480solar pitris, fire dhyani, manasadevas, sons of wisdom, the vehicles of the divine mind, 9|00:01:29|340|00:01:35|940the dhyana chohannic forces, the aggregate of the ahi, solar Lords, the fivefold links, 10|00:01:35|940|00:01:44|480the benign uniters, the producers of at-one-ment. Esoterically they are the saviors of the race, 11|00:01:45|360|00:01:52|260the hearts of fiery love, Prometheus, and from one perspective also Lucifer. There are other names 12|00:01:52|260|00:02:01|340and probably as we go along we will find a way to discuss those names, mention them. Now, 13|00:02:01|860|00:02:08|660we are at the point where we can actually get into what D.K. says about hierarchy number five. 14|00:02:09|480|00:02:21|640We will find some of these names mentioned there. It is a very mysterious Creative Hierarchy. We 15|00:02:21|640|00:02:30|200have been assured that we will not be able to solve the mystery of this hierarchy. He says 16|00:02:30|200|00:02:37|860it is far too complicated for us, but we can learn more and more about it and from the practical 17|00:02:37|860|00:02:48|340perspective we can learn to render the solar Angel the sole luminary in the microcosmic sky. 18|00:02:49|700|00:02:57|340This is what we want to learn to do. Rule number five: let the applicant see to it that the solar 19|00:02:57|340|00:03:09|420Angel dims the light of the lunar angels, remaining the sole luminary in the microcosmic sky. Our 20|00:03:09|420|00:03:16|560microcosmic sky or consciousness is filled with many lunar luminaries and they distract our 21|00:03:16|560|00:03:26|800attention from the main point of our spiritual quest, which is the perception of the unity. 22|00:03:27|920|00:03:44|710And living within that perceived unity. Okay, hierarchy number five. Okay. And here we are. 23|00:03:46|140|00:03:55|280Oh, I've already included these. All right, very good. Hierarchy V. The fifth Creative Hierarchy is, as we know 24|00:03:55|280|00:04:01|420from study of //The Secret Doctrine//, a most mysterious one. //EA, p.45// If you really think about one 25|00:04:01|420|00:04:11|560of the major points of //The Secret Doctrine//, it is to bring to the attention of the reader the 26|00:04:11|560|00:04:21|500existence of this hierarchy and thus change completely the perception of how religion is 27|00:04:21|500|00:04:31|440to be approached. We are to work out our own salvation. Of course, faith is deeply necessary 28|00:04:31|440|00:04:41|100as is reason. Our works do count and the way we do this is by coming into increasingly more intimate 29|00:04:41|100|00:04:49|260contact with the divine intermediary, which is the supervising solar angel. We do not need anymore 30|00:04:52|400|00:05:02|140priests, ministers, pastors specifically to achieve salvation. We need them if they are fine 31|00:05:02|140|00:05:13|180people and they are teachers and individuals whose presence helps us come closer to the divine, but 32|00:05:13|180|00:05:28|200we don't need them in any rigorous sense to approach God. God is within us, immanent, and we can make 33|00:05:28|200|00:05:38|720our own divine approach. As a matter of fact, we are all emanations of the one Universa Logos. 34|00:05:40|680|00:05:47|880 the fifth Creative Hierarchy is, as we know from the study of //The Secret Doctrine//, 35|00:05:48|060|00:05:56|280a most mysterious one. This mystery is incident //upon the relation of the fifth Hierarchy 36|00:05:56|280|00:06:04|820to the five liberated groups//. //EA, p.45// It's an amazing statement, and as we discussed in the last webinar, 37|00:06:04|820|00:06:13|080they somehow represent the fifth Creative Hierarchy. Somehow it represents the five liberated, 38|00:06:13|340|00:06:21|600one almost liberated group and carries the energies of Pisces, Aries, Taurus, and Cancer, 39|00:06:21|600|00:06:37|620and carries also the energies of, as it is described here, intelligent substance through Pisces, 40|00:06:37|820|00:06:49|040unity through effort, Aries, light through knowledge, Taurus, desire for duality, Gemini, 41|00:06:49|710|00:06:57|360and mass life, Cancer. Really, almost anything that occurs on the cosmic physical plane 42|00:06:58|330|00:07:05|120can from one perspective be considered mass life from the cosmic perspective. 43|00:07:06|820|00:07:13|900This relation, in connection with our particular planet, which is not a sacred planet, 44|00:07:14|360|00:07:21|700can be somewhat understood if the history of the Buddha, and His work is contemplated. 1|00:00:11|340|00:00:22|800This is hinted at in the third volume of //The Secret Doctrine//. //EA, p.45// In the Buddha, the seeds of 46|00:07:27|800|00:07:36|440the previous solar system ripened. He was certainly a Moon Chain initiate, and the question arises 47|00:07:37|920|00:07:46|760whether he monadically was a product of the first solar system, first major solar system coming into 48|00:07:46|760|00:07:53|100this solar system and achieving the ripening of the seeds of the previous solar system, 49|00:07:53|300|00:08:01|060meaning that in him was the consummation of all that was promised under the great ray of creative 50|00:08:01|060|00:08:10|960intelligence, which I do believe is his monadic ray as the Lord of Light and the Lord of Wisdom. 51|00:08:12|960|00:08:14|320Let's see a little further here. 52|00:08:17|940|00:08:24|620Yes, the five liberated groups on the cosmic astral plane, or almost so, are represented 53|00:08:25|500|00:08:31|620by the fifth Creative Hierarchy—fifth manifest Creative Hierarchy—and in many ways 54|00:08:32|480|00:08:39|900the harvest of the previous solar system. That harvest, as it should be, is conveyed to us 55|00:08:40|460|00:08:47|840via the agency of this fifth Creative Hierarchy. In other words, a very highly developed 56|00:08:47|840|00:08:57|160manas is brought to us, as well as the fusion of manas and buddhi which the solar angels have 57|00:08:57|160|00:09:07|060achieved. The relationship of the fifth hierarchy to a certain constellation also has a bearing upon 58|00:09:07|060|00:09:15|700this mystery. Now, constellation—well, you know, Sirius is sometimes considered a constellation, 59|00:09:16|210|00:09:20|640and certainly there is a relationship between the members, the higher members 60|00:09:20|640|00:09:29|600of the fifth Creative Hierarchy and the system of Sirius—maybe the constellation of Sirius, as 61|00:09:29|600|00:09:35|900it has a Sirius B and it also has a hidden Sirius C—possibly therefore considered a constellation, 62|00:09:36|460|00:09:44|760and also the Sirian constellation may be our very own seven solar systems, of which ours is one. 63|00:09:46|340|00:09:51|920Also, we have the constellation Gemini, which is very important, 64|00:09:54|540|00:10:01|720which was instrumental in bringing the angels to our planet and thus the influence of the five 65|00:10:01|720|00:10:08|800higher Creative Hierarchies which the solar Angels represent, and also Libra, another air sign 66|00:10:08|800|00:10:16|380and the zodiacal constellation which is connected with the secret of the dragon. 67|00:10:17|740|00:10:25|400D.K. has talked about some of these constellations. Initially, he's hinted at their presence 68|00:10:26|100|00:10:34|000in the earlier books, and remember, we are dealing with a section of the astrology book which is 69|00:10:34|000|00:10:45|120really an excision from the Cosmic Fire book. So, sometimes later he fills in the name of the 70|00:10:45|120|00:10:52|360constellation at which he hinted. Gemini is important here. The relation of the fifth 71|00:10:52|360|00:10:56|960Hierarchy to a certain constellation has also a bearing upon this mystery. //EA, p.45// Remember, as well, 72|00:10:57|640|00:11:06|420it is a hierarchy ruled by Capricorn, and very interestingly, Venus, which is the planet of the 73|00:11:06|420|00:11:13|180solar Angels, has its highest expression in the sign Capricorn. The solar Angels are certainly 74|00:11:13|180|00:11:23|400meant to lift man up to his transfigured state, and Venus in Capricorn represents that transfiguration. 75|00:11:25|980|00:11:31|500And there is still one higher expression of Venus, perhaps in Pisces, the sign of its exaltation, 76|00:11:31|500|00:11:39|620which is the absolute consummation of its work. This is hidden //EA, p.45//—this mystery, this constellation, 77|00:11:41|200|00:11:48|340knowledge of these things— in the karma of the solar Logos, and concerns His relationship 78|00:11:48|340|00:11:57|760to another solar Logos, and the interplay of force between Them in a great mahakalpa. //EA, p.45// Is it this one? 79|00:11:58|640|00:12:07|020Is it a previous one? Now, here I think for sure another solar Logos we have to think of 80|00:12:07|720|00:12:17|300of the star Sirius, because the serpent religion and those who follow the higher serpents 81|00:12:19|340|00:12:29|080is all emanating from Sirius, as well as from the great Draco, an immense constellation 82|00:12:29|670|00:12:38|320in the northern skies. So, this mystery is hidden in the karma of our solar Logos. In case we think, 83|00:12:38|320|00:12:45|980well, that we shall be finished with karma, this is an impossibility—a little bit ludicrous, actually, 84|00:12:45|980|00:12:57|540because even the great beings are under the law of karma—not only planetary Logos, solar Logos, but 85|00:12:58|300|00:13:13|140Logos beyond them as well. So, karma is simply the law of action and reaction. We do something, 86|00:13:14|740|00:13:26|820and the effect of that doing remains until another action is taken. So, the products of our creations 87|00:13:26|820|00:13:33|740are always before us. In the old homely saying, they say you make your bed and you lie in it. Well, 88|00:13:33|740|00:13:40|380with every act of creation we are making the bed, and it doesn't change until we remake it. 89|00:13:41|020|00:13:53|080This is the true "secret of the Dragon," and it was the dragon-influence or the "serpent energy" 90|00:13:53|740|00:14:00|680which caused the influx of manasic or mind energy into the solar system. //EA, p.45// Now, 91|00:14:01|030|00:14:12|200we seem to have a link here between Draco, Sirius, and the entry of manasic 92|00:14:13|930|00:14:27|030energy into our solar system. Draco is, of course, the great serpent, and it has a tremendous kind of 93|00:14:27|030|00:14:35|050power, perhaps even greater than some of the Pleiades, at least according to certain citations. 94|00:14:36|410|00:14:46|790Sirius sent the solar angels, which are as serpents, and Sirius is the source which is 95|00:14:46|790|00:14:58|410responsible for the entrance of Manus into our solar system, just as the Pleiades are the bestowers 96|00:14:58|410|00:15:09|150of Manus or instrumental in that bestowal to the heavenly men. Entangled closely with the karma of 97|00:15:09|150|00:15:15|690these two cosmic Entities, //EA, p.46// and by that I think we mean that both our solar Logos and the Sirius Logos 98|00:15:15|690|00:15:25|170are cosmic, was that of the lesser cosmic Entity Who is the Life of our planet, the planetary Logos. //EA, p.46// 99|00:15:25|350|00:15:35|430So we are learning that planetary Logos is a cosmic entity that is not just systemic, but 100|00:15:36|390|00:15:54|170cosmic. It was this triple karma which brought in the "serpent religion" and the "Serpents or 101|00:15:54|170|00:16:00|490Dragons of Wisdom," in Lemurian days. //EA, p.46// These are initiates. Dragons of Wisdom are the planetary Logoi and lesser 102|00:16:01|050|00:16:10|510dragons of wisdom are the initiates: the masters of the wisdom in Lemurian days. Now it looks like 103|00:16:10|510|00:16:18|770another name for the solar Angels is "Dragons of Wisdom," so let's just ask that. Here's another name 104|00:16:18|770|00:16:31|450for these, for the solar Angels. Okay, the Dragons of Wisdom. Dragons of Wisdom. 105|00:16:32|870|00:16:38|470Well, we know how it works. There is the greater dragon Draco. Every planetary Logos is a Dragon 106|00:16:38|470|00:16:45|210of Wisdom. Every master is a lesser Dragon of Wisdom, and somewhere in there may it be 107|00:16:46|000|00:16:53|370that the solar Angels themselves are as serpents and are to be considered Dragons of Wisdom. 108|00:16:53|890|00:17:03|890It had to do with solar and planetary Kundalini, or serpent fire. A hint lies in the fact 1|00:00:11|340|00:00:22|800that the constellation of the Dragon //EA, p.46//—that's Draco— has the same relation to the ONE greater than our Logos //EA, p.46// 110|00:17:13|440|00:17:20|880and this is, I believe, the one about whom naught may be said, as the centre at the base of the spine 111|00:17:20|880|00:17:29|840has to a human being. //EA, p.46// So we are speaking of one of the functions of the constellation Draco as being 112|00:17:29|840|00:17:39|220a base of the spine center to the one about whom naught may be said, just as the base of the 113|00:17:39|220|00:17:45|580spine center relates to the human being. It concerns stimulation, and vitalisation 114|00:17:46|740|00:17:52|140with a consequent co-ordination of the manifesting fires. //EA, p.46// I think we're talking about the 115|00:17:54|200|00:18:03|540entry of Manus into our solar system and its ultimate sources. We're also talking about solar 116|00:18:03|540|00:18:09|620systemic Kundalini, and one of the things we should note, and probably have noted in earlier 117|00:18:09|620|00:18:25|940webinars, is our planetary Logos and his earth represent the base of spine center of the 118|00:18:25|940|00:18:35|120spine center. These ideas fit together, and the serpent religion is the one that teaches man 119|00:18:35|920|00:18:45|380how to relate to the serpent fire within him and thus achieve a great liberation through the 120|00:18:45|380|00:18:54|800correct raising of the Kundalini. We have a Sirius, in one sense, representing 121|00:18:55|360|00:19:02|600the higher centers of man. Let's just say that if the sun represents the heart, then Sirius 122|00:19:02|600|00:19:10|360represents the upper area, and the base of the spine center has a connection with Draco. This we 123|00:19:10|360|00:19:19|960can look at in a microcosmic sense, or we can understand it from the solar systemic perspective. 124|00:19:19|960|00:19:28|580Suffice it to say that much of the serpent religion is involved with both Sirius and as well 125|00:19:28|580|00:19:37|180with the still greater, vaster constellation Draco, which is not only the source of 126|00:19:38|060|00:19:48|440cosmic Kundalini but is the source of cosmic buddhi into our solar system via the Pleiades, 127|00:19:48|440|00:19:54|920we are told. Well, there are many mysterious things here; you know, one can ponder on this particular 128|00:19:54|920|00:20:03|560paragraph for years, and I think the word "entangled" is a very good one because there are these 129|00:20:03|560|00:20:12|100multiple relationships which have to be disentangled. The dragon energy, the serpent 130|00:20:12|100|00:20:21|320energy was the cause of the influx of Manus, or mind energy, into the solar system. So we do know 131|00:20:21|320|00:20:29|340that Draco is connected with the Pleiades. Perhaps there is, in relation to this dragon energy or 132|00:20:29|340|00:20:36|600serpent energy, monadic energy, a connection to Sirius as well. Draco, Sirius, our solar system 133|00:20:36|600|00:20:43|760and our little planet and the solar angels involved in all of that. Obviously there is a 134|00:20:43|760|00:20:53|320great redemptive relationship here because it is teaching the immersed spirits how to rise out of 135|00:20:53|320|00:21:05|940the dense physical body of the solar Logos. A clue to the mystery lies also in the relation of this 136|00:21:05|940|00:21:18|100fifth group to the two contracting poles. //EA, p.46// So the distance between the poles of spirit and matter 137|00:21:19|420|00:21:28|180is gradually shortening, gradually contracting. The poles are coming closer, as it were, interpenetrating 138|00:21:28|180|00:21:36|360spirit and matter, or interpenetrating via the agency of this fifth group of solar Angels: the 139|00:21:36|360|00:21:43|160divine intermediaries who have taken it upon themselves to bring together the spirit and 140|00:21:43|160|00:21:51|420matter aspect of whatever—of the entity in which they are operative, whether it's the planetary 141|00:21:51|420|00:21:59|020Logos of the Earth or other planetary Logoi, where these Solar Angels also have a definite 142|00:21:59|020|00:22:04|100function at a certain point in planetary development. And here are some of the names 143|00:22:04|100|00:22:10|620we discussed last time: They are the five-fold Links, the "Benign Uniters" and "the Producers of the Atonement." //EA, p.46// 144|00:22:10|620|00:22:18|540At-onement. This we discussed in the previous webinar. Esoterically, they are the "Saviours of 145|00:22:18|540|00:22:27|680the Race" //EA, p.46// Well, a reflection of them, known as the guardian angel, may act at times as an exoteric 146|00:22:27|680|00:22:36|860savior. But they—these angels—redeem the consciousness; they save the consciousness of the 147|00:22:36|860|00:22:47|940human being, and through a fiery initiatory burning process they extract that consciousness from 148|00:22:47|940|00:22:53|920preoccupation with the dense physical vehicle of the Solar Logos. And this we see is what the Buddha 149|00:22:53|920|00:23:03|400was doing as well: he was teaching people how to master the outgoingness of desire and to redirect 150|00:23:03|400|00:23:13|800that desire towards higher objectives which lay beyond the ordinary physical, astral, and mental 151|00:23:13|800|00:23:22|540realms. So they save—these beings save the consciousness of the race, and it's very 152|00:23:22|540|00:23:32|580interesting that although the Buddha did not speak of soul in any individual sense for a man, 153|00:23:35|280|00:23:41|000the work which he undertook was very much like the work of the Solar Angels: 154|00:23:41|680|00:23:48|060freeing the consciousness of man from preoccupation with all that is 155|00:23:50|880|00:23:55|840presented to the lower consciousness from the three lower worlds. He— 156|00:23:56|540|00:24:06|500the Solar Angels and the Buddha—both supervise over the detachment from, or the disengagement 157|00:24:07|460|00:24:16|280of this consciousness from attachment to the lower worlds. So esoterically, they are the "Saviours of the 158|00:24:16|280|00:24:22|340Race" and from Them emanates that principle which—in conjunction with the highest aspect— //EA, p.46// (which is 159|00:24:22|340|00:24:32|940the spirit), lifts the lower aspect up to Heaven. //EA, p.46// So that principle is the solar fire, which in conjunction 160|00:24:32|940|00:24:44|840with electric fire, lifts the lower aspect up into heaven. So electric fire and solar fire together 161|00:24:45|860|00:24:50|160redeem the fire by friction; they redeem the personal consciousness— 162|00:24:50|840|00:24:58|180the consciousness immersed in the lower three worlds. So these are the saviors of the 163|00:24:58|180|00:25:04|700race, and oftentimes, you know, people who don't know so much about this—they still talk about 164|00:25:05|300|00:25:11|420a higher power which is resonant within them and to which application can be made, 165|00:25:12|260|00:25:21|380and to which cooperation can be offered. This type of appeal which must be made to the higher 166|00:25:21|380|00:25:32|300power—this higher power can be conceived of very much as the supervisory Solar Angel who basically 167|00:25:32|300|00:25:38|980is guarding and supervising the human being for millions of years of progress. Well, 168|00:25:40|080|00:25:48|140the time scale, as it appears to a human being, is very different than as it appears to a liberated 169|00:25:48|140|00:25:56|960being. A liberated being knows that time is an illusion, that forever always has been, 170|00:25:57|860|00:26:07|420that the greatest definable span of time—even if it is a span of trillions of 171|00:26:08|380|00:26:20|080universes—is as an infinitesimal when compared to timelessness. So patience comes with these 172|00:26:20|700|00:26:30|820realizations that duration has been, is, and will be forever. Of course, we have to speak in 173|00:26:31|320|00:26:39|220the terms of our language, which is a very time-space language. But it takes a long time 174|00:26:39|600|00:26:50|080to save a race: millions of years. Our race has not yet been saved, and already 21 million years has 175|00:26:50|080|00:27:00|920elapsed since the process of individualization began on our fourth chain, fourth round, fourth 176|00:27:00|920|00:27:11|240globe. But to the consciousness of these great beings, even such a span as 21 million years is 177|00:27:11|240|00:27:22|100as nothing. No concrete, definite span of time can measure itself against eternal duration. So they 178|00:27:22|100|00:27:33|760have the patience of their realization, and we too, as our consciousness increases and as we defeat 179|00:27:33|760|00:27:44|600the tyranny of the time sense, will be imbued with that kind of cosmically inspired patience. 180|00:27:45|200|00:27:51|260Anyway, together with the spirit of man—and in conjunction with the spirit of man— 181|00:27:51|260|00:27:58|960the lower aspect is lifted up into heaven. When these mysteries are carefully studied, 1|00:00:11|340|00:00:22|800and due application made to the lives of the greatest exponents of the at-one-ing principle, //EA, p.46// 183|00:28:07|760|00:28:13|800such as the Christ and the Buddha and certain great teachers who brought forward the concept 184|00:28:13|800|00:28:22|060of the unity, it will become apparent how great and all-important is their place in the scheme. //EA, p.46// 185|00:28:22|060|00:28:31|380Solar Angels sound like the heroes of our planetary scheme, bringing about, facilitating 186|00:28:32|820|00:28:38|000the union of the spirit and matter aspect of our planetary Logos. Well, 187|00:28:38|860|00:28:42|740I think if the Solar Logos has a— 188|00:28:44|700|00:28:52|780a great Solar Angel of which our own individual Solar Angels are a small part... 189|00:28:53|440|00:29:00|420then why should this not be the case for the planetary Logos that on the higher on the 190|00:29:00|420|00:29:06|460mental plane cosmic mental plane third sub-plane where our planetary Logos has his causal body? Why 191|00:29:06|460|00:29:16|400should his egoic lotus not be analogously created by a solar angel of great scope? 192|00:29:18|260|00:29:26|560So, um, religion will be much improved with the knowledge of the existence of these 193|00:29:26|560|00:29:36|260divine unitors, these benign unitors, these five old links. We will have an entirely different 194|00:29:36|460|00:29:43|780view of the relationship between the personal aspect that we often call man 195|00:29:44|520|00:29:50|440and the divine aspect that we often call God. And we need to realize the function of the divine 196|00:29:50|440|00:29:59|900intermediaries in relating, uh, monad and personality, or God and man. That will change the face of 197|00:29:59|900|00:30:08|140religion, and it will become altogether more occultly scientific, more rational, 198|00:30:09|460|00:30:14|580and more responsive to the intuition or pure reason. 199|00:30:17|320|00:30:22|540It is for this reason that the units of the fifth Hierarchy are called "The Hearts of Fiery Love"; 1|00:00:11|340|00:00:22|800They save through love, //EA, p.46// 201|00:30:27|080|00:30:34|820They are the saviors of the race. That's why we see something about their function when we 202|00:30:34|820|00:30:42|160realize that the planet Venus is exalted in the saving sign Pisces. One of the highest functions 203|00:30:42|940|00:30:54|980of the solar angels, which are responsive to the planet Venus, is to save. And so there's a kind of 204|00:30:54|980|00:31:05|380angelic—let's put that in a note—triangle between Pisces, Venus, and the solar angels. 205|00:31:06|080|00:31:15|560And in their turn, these lives are peculiarly close to the great heart of love of the solar Logos. Now, 206|00:31:15|560|00:31:23|700by that we probably mean the heart of sun, the heart of the sun. But sometimes Venus 207|00:31:24|980|00:31:32|880has been associated with the, uh, 208|00:31:33|900|00:31:43|580heart of the solar Logos. There's a special consideration around that, because Jupiter is, 209|00:31:44|840|00:31:52|020I'd say, a better candidate for the heart center of the solar Logos. But I think in time Venus will be, 210|00:31:52|020|00:32:01|040um, the representative of the heart center of the solar Logos. Anyway, from the heart of the sun these 211|00:32:01|040|00:32:06|780solar angels come forth, and thus they're close to the great subjective sun, the heart of the sun, the 212|00:32:06|780|00:32:17|460heart of love of the solar Logos, the so-called son aspect (S-O-N) of the solar Logos. These great 213|00:32:17|460|00:32:29|300redeeming Angels, Who are the Sons of Men on their own true plane, the mental, are ever, therefore, 1|00:00:11|340|00:00:22|800pictured as taking the form of twelve-petalled lotuses- //EA, p.46// Well, this is the—this is the question: is the 215|00:32:47|020|00:32:58|300solar Angel, which has been invested in the higher mental plane and builds the egoic lotus of man, 216|00:32:59|320|00:33:06|540is that the part that takes the form of the 12-petalled lotus? What is the true 217|00:33:07|260|00:33:14|440plane of the solar Angels? To be on the mental plane is the sacrifice. Perhaps their truer plane 218|00:33:15|200|00:33:23|660is the buddhic plane or beyond. These great redeeming Angels, who are the Sons of Men on 219|00:33:23|660|00:33:30|120their own true plane—because their presence is what makes a man on the higher mental plane, 220|00:33:30|640|00:33:39|100they create the vehicle of a man on the higher mental plane, and that vehicle is the egoic 12- 221|00:33:39|100|00:33:46|680petalled egoic lotus—they're ever pictured as taking the form of 12-petal lotuses. What I 222|00:33:46|680|00:33:59|120am saying is that there may be higher vehicles for the solar Angel than the 12-petaled lotus 223|00:33:59|120|00:34:07|780on the higher mental plane, which it constructs, uh, for the benefit of the human being which it 224|00:34:07|780|00:34:16|020is supervising. In other words, that this 12-petal lotus is not its only vehicle, nor necessarily 225|00:34:16|020|00:34:23|740its highest vehicle, because we realize that the solar Angel probably has its monad on the cosmic 226|00:34:23|740|00:34:31|620astral plane, and a number of higher vehicles will therefore be necessary. So, in a way, this 12-petal 227|00:34:31|620|00:34:40|920lotus is, in a way, its very lowest vehicle, created by a portion of its consciousness invested 228|00:34:41|540|00:34:48|080upon the higher mental plane. So, um, they're pictured as taking the form of twelve-petalled lotuses-229|00:34:48|080|00:34:56|380this symbology linking them up with "the Son of Divine Love," the manifested solar system, 230|00:34:56|940|00:35:09|100which is said to be a cosmic twelve-petalled lotus, //EA, p.46// and with the Logoic causal lotus, equally of a twelve-petalled 231|00:35:09|100|00:35:17|840nature. //EA, p.46// Now, some fantastic occultism is being given here: is the egoic lotus of the solar 232|00:35:17|840|00:35:27|340Logos 12-petaled or 21-petaled? Uh, 20, 21-petaled? 233|00:35:30|240|00:35:40|560Because there are places—12-petaled or 21-petaled? Yes, let me just get that straight here: 21-petaled, 234|00:35:41|250|00:35:48|380because there are places where that egoic lotus is discussed as having seven tiers, probably of 235|00:35:48|380|00:35:56|400three petals each, and is 21-petal. But here's discussed as 12-petals. So there is the—the entire 236|00:35:56|400|00:36:05|400solar system can be seen as a 12-petaled lotus. On what planes is this vision occurring? Probably 237|00:36:05|400|00:36:13|960on the cosmic etheric planes, because the solar system itself does not go beyond the cosmic 238|00:36:13|960|00:36:22|580physical plane. So on the higher levels of the cosmic physical plane, namely the cosmic etheric, 239|00:36:22|580|00:36:30|060probably there is a vision of a 12-petaled lotus which represents the divine son of love. And now 240|00:36:30|060|00:36:37|050is this occurring on the monadic plane where we may infer that the heart center of the 241|00:36:37|460|00:36:43|260etheric heart center of the solar Logos may be found? I know there are some references which seem 242|00:36:43|260|00:36:49|980to put all the chakras of the solar Logos on the fourth or buddhic plane, but I would like to follow 243|00:36:49|980|00:37:01|580out the analogy of the placement of man's chakras on various ethers, assuming that this may also be 244|00:37:01|580|00:37:13|520the case for the solar Logos. So here we have the correlation of 12-petaled lotuses: the 12- 245|00:37:13|520|00:37:20|220petaled egoic lotus of man, the 12-petaled probably heart center of the solar Logos found on the 246|00:37:20|220|00:37:28|900cosmic ethers, and the Logoic causal lotus here said to be of a 12-petaled nature 247|00:37:29|420|00:37:34|540and not of a 21-petaled nature. Now that's one of the great apparent contradictions. 248|00:37:38|300|00:37:47|720And we have to, you know, think long and hard about whether the solar Logoic egoic lotus is 21- 249|00:37:47|720|00:37:56|780petaled or 12-petaled. There is a reference here, and I don't know if I should go looking for that 250|00:37:56|780|00:38:11|240right now, you know, 21-petaled. I think, um, well let's just see 21 and petaled. Let's see 251|00:38:11|240|00:38:18|820if I can find that quickly, and if not you'll just have to take my word for it 252|00:38:19|640|00:38:24|480because it does seem to—it does seem to exist. 253|00:38:27|960|00:38:38|840Oh, I'm not sure whether we can find that at this point. Um, well, I'm not sure it's even worth looking 254|00:38:38|840|00:38:48|980for right at this moment. I'm not sure it's worth looking for right at this moment. Um, okay, seems to 255|00:38:48|980|00:39:04|900be just a little bit of... um, okay, a little pause here. Okay, 21, 21-petaled. Well it does exist, 21 256|00:39:04|900|00:39:10|780petals, and I should know where it is but I'd have to stop the whole process to go looking for it, so 257|00:39:10|780|00:39:20|320I think I should not do that. Uh, but I couldn't do this 21-petals—maybe that is a possibility. Oh 258|00:39:20|320|00:39:28|100yes, there we go, that was the way to find it. All right, so let's look at this now that I have found 259|00:39:28|100|00:39:39|520it. Um, it is interesting to note that as a human solar angel is a unity manifesting through three 260|00:39:39|520|00:39:48|820tiers of petals, the Logoic... Um, chorus which is a very important number for Shamballa—it's the 261|00:39:48|820|00:39:57|180Shamballa number. It also suggests, um, numbers related to our solar Logos with its second ray 262|00:39:58|020|00:40:02|760personality, secondary soul, and maybe fourth ray monad. So the two and the four are both there 263|00:40:02|760|00:40:12|180in a different order. The human solar angel is a unity manifesting through three tiers of petals, 264|00:40:14|200|00:40:20|940actually three tiers of petals, really four tiers of petals if the synthesis petals are included. 265|00:40:21|880|00:40:31|360And there is a solar Logoic solar angel which manifests through a three and a seven, which may 266|00:40:31|360|00:40:46|860be a 21 and a 24. And yet we are told here that equally of a 12-petaled nature, Logoic causal lotus, 267|00:40:46|860|00:40:53|420and yet we have been speaking of the causal lotus of us of a Logoic solar angel as being 268|00:40:54|480|00:41:01|680tenfold, 21-fold, 24-fold, a different set of numbers. So we'll have to 269|00:41:04|720|00:41:12|420reserve concluding about that point until we until we know more. It can be debated, I assume. 270|00:41:13|160|00:41:18|320But what I did—what I did suggest—the it's the only vehicle... 271|00:41:19|660|00:41:28|160Uh, it's uh, the the egoic lotus is not the only vehicle of a solar angel. It is the lowest vehicle 272|00:41:28|160|00:41:36|980just like man has a number of vehicles. Man has a physical/etheric body, astral mental body—these 273|00:41:36|980|00:41:45|280are all vehicles. The solar angel in a way does not go below the higher mental plane, and that is 274|00:41:45|280|00:41:54|500one of its vehicles. What are the other vehicles of a solar angel? I infer that they do exist. 275|00:41:54|500|00:42:02|020Certainly the solar angel has a chakric nature as well, which is indicated by the fact that 276|00:42:02|640|00:42:11|640its heart center is connected to the brain of man, and that D.K. definitely discusses around page 47. 277|00:42:11|640|00:42:20|240Um, wow, are we making progress here? We have, therefore, a direct stream of energy 278|00:42:20|800|00:42:25|980flowing through: //EA, p.47// and here D.K. is giving us one of these important tabulations 279|00:42:27|360|00:42:38|120of 12s: a. The Logoic twelve-petalled egoic lotus, cosmic mental plane. //EA, p.47// Now remember we have 280|00:42:38|120|00:42:47|800just seen that on the cosmic mental plane there is a triple flame working through seven 281|00:42:47|800|00:42:53|880tiers of petals. This is something which must be, uh, reconciled. 282|00:42:56|160|00:43:01|760Yes, it must be reconciled, and we're not in a position to reconcile it at this time unless 283|00:43:01|760|00:43:12|100for some reason D.K. is talking about higher, still higher vehicles of a of the solar Logoic 284|00:43:12|100|00:43:22|500solar Angel: b. The solar twelve-petalled lotus. //EA, p.47// which presumably is on the cosmic etheric 285|00:43:22|500|00:43:33|100levels. Now we're dealing with the solar Logos, so far the planetary Logoic heart center, also a 12 286|00:43:33|100|00:43:47|560petal lotus. And we can ask, um, does this occur on buddic levels? Because we may, uh, presume that the 287|00:43:47|560|00:43:56|920um, the heart center of our planetary Logos could be located on a slightly lower dimension 288|00:43:57|460|00:44:08|000than the heart center of the solar Logos. So a solar 12 petal lotus, c. The planetary logoic 289|00:44:08|460|00:44:17|460heart, also a twelve-petalled lotus. //EA, p.47// and then we make a big jump to d. The twelve-petalled human egoic lotus 290|00:44:17|560|00:44:23|460on the mental plane. //EA, p.47// the higher mental plane, and e. The twelve-petalled heart centre 291|00:44:24|200|00:44:32|060in a human being. //EA, p.47// which is located on systemic etheric levels. Now, if the heart center of a human 292|00:44:32|060|00:44:38|520being is located on systemic etheric levels, then perhaps the heart center of the planetary Logos 293|00:44:38|520|00:44:46|220is located on cosmic etheric levels. And he talks here about a solar 12 petal lotus, but he doesn't 294|00:44:46|220|00:44:54|370say that it is a heart center, but we can infer that it is. He doesn't say that this is a— 295|00:44:56|880|00:45:08|620trying to keep my camera here—is a heart center, but we may infer so because the number 12, 296|00:45:08|620|00:45:16|480uh, is somehow always connected with the heart. Now, there are different systems of counting the 297|00:45:16|480|00:45:27|900chakras in Tibetan and also Hindu esoteric books, but we will go with what Master D.K. has said in 298|00:45:27|900|00:45:33|580the Theosophical system. And if there are differences, we will learn about those 299|00:45:33|580|00:45:40|900differences as we go. So here is the tabulation of heart centers, starting all the way 300|00:45:41|600|00:45:46|820up here on the cosmic mental plane. 301|00:45:50|060|00:45:58|240Yeah, and all the way up here on the cosmic mental plane egoic lotus and coming down 302|00:45:59|060|00:46:07|600into the cosmic ethers and finally going all the way down here until we find that area where the 303|00:46:07|600|00:46:17|600heart center of man is located. A great continuity of hearts. And maybe there are other heart centers 304|00:46:17|600|00:46:24|440involved in this as well. I mean, the various lords of chains and globes have to have their own heart 305|00:46:24|440|00:46:31|680centers and locations for these centers, but into all of that detail we are in no position to enter. 306|00:46:31|680|00:46:42|520And, "one day we will be" Or, to word it otherwise, Energy flows direct from: //EA, p.47// says D.K., a. The solar 307|00:46:42|520|00:46:56|060Logos, via three great cosmic centres: //EA, p.47// 1. The central spiritual Sun. //EA, p.47// which I assume to be the monadic 308|00:46:56|060|00:47:00|640nature of the solar Logos. Now, there are many ways to describe the central spiritual Sun. 309|00:47:00|640|00:47:05|140Even the center of our galaxy can in a way be called the central spiritual sun. 310|00:47:06|000|00:47:10|140Alsioni within the Pleiades can be called that, and the Pleiades as a whole can be called that. 311|00:47:10|140|00:47:19|140We're talking, I think, about the, the monadic nature or spiritual nature of our solar Logos. 312|00:47:19|140|00:47:25|480So the solar Logos—energy flows from the solar Logos via three great cosmic centers: the central 313|00:47:25|480|00:47:32|780spiritual sun, 2. The heart of the Sun. //EA, p.47// which we presume to be the egoic nature on the higher 314|00:47:32|780|00:47:44|100mental, cosmic mental plane of our solar Logos, and 3. The physical Sun. //EA, p.47// That is one source, and then b. The 315|00:47:44|100|00:47:51|100heart centre of the planetary Logos, situated on the fourth cosmic etheric plane (our 316|00:47:51|100|00:48:01|140buddhic plane). //EA, p.47// Now, there we have it confirmed what I was thinking of earlier, that this is the location 317|00:48:01|700|00:48:08|880for the heart center of the planetary Logos. But is it the location for the heart center 318|00:48:08|880|00:48:21|100of the solar Logos? Why not the monadic, uh, monadic plane? Okay, so that is one of the big things to be 319|00:48:21|100|00:48:27|840solved, you know, whether the, um, whether the heart of the etheric heart center of the solar Logos 320|00:48:27|840|00:48:34|060is found on the second ether cosmic ether or on the fourth. And I'm, I'm holding out for the idea 321|00:48:34|060|00:48:43|920that there is good reason to think of it as found on the second ether. Okay, this flow continues, and 322|00:48:43|920|00:48:50|280then c. The egoic lotus of a human being on the mental plane, which is literally a correspondence 323|00:48:50|280|00:48:56|940to the "heart of the Sun." //EA, p.47// Okay, now that's very important. When he talks about heart of the Sun, 324|00:48:57|840|00:49:04|520he is referring to the egoic nature. When D.K. speaks of the heart of the Sun, 325|00:49:05|080|00:49:09|280he means the egoic nature of the solar Logos. 326|00:49:10|540|00:49:20|420Egoic nature of the solar Logos. Okay, I'm trying to get my camera working. 327|00:49:22|320|00:49:30|280The monadic point is a reflection in the human system of the "central spiritual Sun." //EA, p.47// so 328|00:49:31|220|00:49:40|340therefore, the central spiritual Sun must be considered as the monadic nature of the solar Logos. 329|00:49:41|440|00:49:49|180The central spiritual Sun and monadic point. Sometimes he uses the word "monad," sometimes 330|00:49:49|180|00:49:58|460"monadic point." It gives it a greater sense of location. Okay, so this is the energy flow we've 331|00:49:58|460|00:50:05|400been looking at here: "To word it otherwise, energy flows from the solar Logos via three great cosmic 332|00:50:05|400|00:50:12|060centers. Okay, the monad of the Solar Logos called the Central Spiritual Sun, the egoic nature 333|00:50:12|060|00:50:17|500of the Solar Logos called the Heart of the Sun, and his physical nature called the physical 334|00:50:18|180|00:50:24|760physical sun. And then the heart center of our Planetary Logos situated on our buddhic plane 335|00:50:24|760|00:50:30|940where all the ashrams are now. Well, so many of them are now to be found. So in a way, we are in the midst 336|00:50:30|940|00:50:39|780of the heart center of our Planetary Logos in the particular ashrams in which we are involved or 337|00:50:39|780|00:50:45|900towards which we are tending. And then the flow continues to the egoic lotus of a human being, 338|00:50:45|900|00:50:52|140which is the lower correspondence to the egoic nature of the Solar Logos, the Heart of the Sun. 339|00:50:53|740|00:50:59|420And the monadic point reflects the Central Spiritual Sun. I think we see the analogies. 340|00:50:59|420|00:51:08|620Correct. Okay, and then finally, the flow continues to d. The heart centre of a man on the etheric plane 341|00:51:08|620|00:51:15|120of the physical plane, which is in its turn a correspondence to the physical Sun. //EA, p.47// 342|00:51:15|120|00:51:23|540So the physical Sun has a correspondence to the etheric sun—has a correspondence 343|00:51:24|620|00:51:32|860in the ethers and not on the dense physical, not on the dense physical level. 344|00:51:33|820|00:51:41|900Dense physical level. All right. So we see these important flows through various 345|00:51:42|420|00:51:49|860heart centers, finally ending up in the personality nature of the human being, finally 346|00:51:50|980|00:51:57|560flowing by via the principle of numerical resonance from 12 to 12 to 12. 347|00:51:58|310|00:52:05|160Any structure in cosmos which has the same numerosity and the same structure is connected 348|00:52:05|160|00:52:13|920by a kind of sympathetic magic which allows direct lines of flow more easily between 349|00:52:14|600|00:52:22|420such structures. We've seen how there is a definite line of flow between all of these 350|00:52:22|420|00:52:33|64012-fold structures. Thus the tiny atom //EA, p.47// man, in a way, is linked with the great central Life 351|00:52:34|090|00:52:40|080of the solar system. //EA, p.47// This central Life focusing on the cosmic mental plane 352|00:52:40|570|00:52:45|220as the Solar Logoic soul, the Divine Sun. 353|00:52:48|980|00:52:57|580Okay, let's go on here. How we're doing for time? Pretty good. This fifth Hierarchy 354|00:52:57|580|00:53:08|120is equally, under the law, a distributor of energy to the fifth subplane of each plane in the system, 355|00:53:08|820|00:53:15|080only it must be borne in mind that, in the three worlds, it is the fifth subplane counting 356|00:53:15|080|00:53:22|140from above downwards, whilst in the worlds of superhuman evolution, it is the fifth counting 357|00:53:22|140|00:53:31|620from below upwards. //EA, p.47-48// So the third sub-plane is receiving—on the higher etheric sub-planes, it is 358|00:53:31|620|00:53:41|840the third sub-planes which are receiving energy from the—energy from the fifth creative hierarchy. 359|00:53:42|600|00:53:47|880That's interesting: the number three and five, because in a way the third creative hierarchy 360|00:53:47|880|00:53:53|220and the fifth are definitely inter-related. Let's go there. 361|00:53:55|480|00:54:02|880Yeah, right here. And we see these two hierarchies, the third and the fifth, have a close relation 362|00:54:03|520|00:54:11|120to each other, and they both have a Christ-like function, as we read earlier. When we reject 363|00:54:11|120|00:54:18|020the triple flowers—when we reject the third creative hierarchy—we precipitate ourselves 364|00:54:18|020|00:54:28|120into the eighth sphere and are on our way to dissolution in the eighth sphere at avichi, 365|00:54:29|770|00:54:37|540the fate of those who choose the left-hand path and persist upon it. So the fifth hierarchy 366|00:54:37|540|00:54:43|080is equally under the law, a distributor of energy to the fifth sub-plane of each plane of the 367|00:54:43|080|00:54:48|540system. Only it must be borne in mind that in the three worlds, it is the fifth sub-plane counting 368|00:54:48|540|00:54:54|940from above downwards, whilst in the world of superhuman evolution, it is the fifth counting from 369|00:54:54|940|00:55:07|380below upwards. Well, you know, for most human beings, the position of the Solar Angel—or the egoic— 370|00:55:07|940|00:55:17|000is on the fifth sub-plane counting upwards, counting from below upwards. See here? Here we see 371|00:55:17|000|00:55:28|620that the—yeah, here we see that the Solar Angel is one, two, three, four, five. Originally man is found— 372|00:55:28|620|00:55:35|280his egoic lotus is found on the third sub-plane counting from above to below and on the fifth 373|00:55:35|280|00:55:40|640counting from below to above. But maybe on the very lowest planes, there is an influence of the 374|00:55:40|640|00:55:48|680Solar Angel on the fifth from above and the third from below—on the fifth from above and the third 375|00:55:48|680|00:55:57|840from below—meaning that the Solar Angel is influencing somehow the gaseous plane on the 376|00:55:57|840|00:56:07|220densest physical level. So by breathing exercises, the right use of the air, the right use of the 377|00:56:07|220|00:56:17|100lungs—Gemini, Venus, Solar Angel—we can approximate, approach contact with the Solar Angel. This is a— 378|00:56:17|100|00:56:22|300very interesting. I haven't given it enough attention, I think, but I'm seeing it now as if 379|00:56:22|300|00:56:30|100for the first time. These are the technicalities of occultism, and you say, "Well, you know..." 380|00:56:30|100|00:56:35|660Why bother to learn all this? Why use the fifth ray in this way? Why gather all these little 381|00:56:35|660|00:56:41|420pieces of information? But one day they all come together, and as they come together they give a 382|00:56:41|420|00:56:48|540full picture of the divine pattern, and then one appreciates the archetypes which are attempting 383|00:56:48|540|00:56:56|320to work out and through in our lower world and restructure the lower world so that it becomes 384|00:56:56|780|00:56:59|840a heaven on earth instead of what it is at the moment. 385|00:57:02|460|00:57:09|960This Hierarchy wields, as we know, the dual aspects of manas, 386|00:57:10|540|00:57:17|360one in the three worlds and one which makes itself felt in higher 387|00:57:17|880|00:57:27|620spheres. //EA, p.48// So the fact... uh, one of the great mysteries is the dual nature of this Creative Hierarchy. 388|00:57:29|280|00:57:36|340So that one aspect of it is heavenly and divine, and another aspect is symbolized by the 389|00:57:36|340|00:57:47|380downward pointing star and is, in a way, well, you know what we refer to as infernal. 390|00:57:48|540|00:57:56|720Uh, the down... the... the downward pointing pentagram is a symbol of what is allegorically called the devil, 391|00:57:57|380|00:58:03|980and it means the sectioning off of the lower concrete mind until it becomes a sphere 392|00:58:04|700|00:58:14|560unto itself, considered to be a tragedy in the development of man. Well, I... you know, there's so 393|00:58:14|560|00:58:19|980much to think about, isn't there? I think that we simply must say The Great Invocation together and 394|00:58:19|980|00:58:33|960end this particular esoteric astrology, uh, adventure. Uh, end of E.A.A. 23, and that's, uh, 395|00:58:33|980|00:58:41|60024 July 11. So let us, uh, say The Great Invocation, and then we will continue our study of hierarchy 396|00:58:42|620|00:58:49|460number... uh, hierarchy number five of the manifested Hierarchies. 397|00:58:51|220|00:58:52|300Oh. 398|00:58:59|360|00:59:04|640From the point of light within the mind of God, 399|00:59:05|200|00:59:12|960let light stream forth into the minds of men. Let light descend on earth. 400|00:59:16|760|00:59:17|320So. 401|00:59:17|320|00:59:26|420From the point of love within the heart of God, let love stream forth into the hearts of men. 402|00:59:28|780|00:59:33|420From the point of love within the heart of God, let love stream forth into the hearts of men. 403|00:59:33|420|00:59:35|140May Christ return to earth. 404|00:59:37|080|00:59:43|740From the center where the will of God is known, let purpose guide the little wills of men, 405|00:59:44|980|00:59:47|880the purpose which the masters know and serve. 406|00:59:50|560|00:59:56|340From the center which we call the race of men, let the plan of love and light work out, 407|00:59:57|060|01:00:00|740and may it seal the door where evil dwells. 408|01:00:02|200|01:00:09|120Let light and love and power restore the plan on earth. 409|01:00:33|720|01:00:34|920Um. 410|01:00:48|280|01:00:56|800Okay, friends, um, we will continue with esoteric astrology adventure number 24, 411|01:00:57|620|01:01:06|180and we will continue with the discussion of the solar angels. We're reaching the end of that 412|01:01:06|180|01:01:16|660particular discussion, and we will continue as soon as may be possible. So for the moment, 413|01:01:17|740|01:01:19|420farewell and see you soon.