1|00:00:02|320|00:00:05|960Well, good afternoon, everybody, and this 2|00:00:06|460|00:00:10|640is Michael. And we are working with the extra references 3|00:00:12|000|00:00:15|840for the first initiation video 4|00:00:16|160|00:00:20|240commentary. Actually, his first initiation 5|00:00:20|740|00:00:23|040compilation video commentary. 6|00:00:27|050|00:00:30|250So we have… We're beginning program number nine. 7|00:00:31|530|00:00:35|370And we're talking about some initiations 8|00:00:35|450|00:00:39|770that occur before the first 9|00:00:39|930|00:00:43|970initiation, which is considered one of the great monastic 10|00:00:44|470|00:00:48|090initiations, even though it is an initiation 11|00:00:48|490|00:00:52|820of the threshold. So let's 12|00:00:53|320|00:00:53|620take a look here. 13|00:00:56|260|00:00:59|500Get that up there, where it belongs. At the stage 14|00:01:00|000|00:01:04|180which we are now considering—this is from Cosmic Fire—that of the organization 15|00:01:04|340|00:01:07|740and unfoldment of the first tier of petals. (TCF, p.869) 16|00:01:08|240|00:01:10|500This is still… What can we call it? 17|00:01:12|260|00:01:16|340In the hall of ignorance? 18|00:01:17|110|00:01:20|950The egoic influence felt at the beginning 19|00:01:21|450|00:01:26|270is but small. (TCF, p.869) Well, certainly in 20|00:01:26|770|00:01:29|670the first and second petal, and maybe something is growing a little bit in the 21|00:01:30|170|00:01:34|710third petal. By the time we reach the fourth petal, we're dealing with 22|00:01:35|210|00:01:38|150the recognition of the pairs of opposites, 23|00:01:38|650|00:01:42|190of which the soul is one. So the 24|00:01:42|690|00:01:45|990egoic influence felt at the beginning is but small. But when 25|00:01:46|490|00:01:50|510the three petals become sufficiently active and alive, through the 26|00:01:50|590|00:01:54|270energy accumulated and stored up in the (TCF, p.869) ego 27|00:01:55|470|00:01:58|750during the activities of the personal life… (TCF, p.870) 28|00:01:59|150|00:02:02|710And that's a very interesting point, because it's 29|00:02:03|210|00:02:07|190because of the energies brought into the egoic 30|00:02:07|690|00:02:11|430lotus that these petals are also becoming sufficiently active and 31|00:02:11|930|00:02:13|680alive. Okay. 32|00:02:16|240|00:02:19|960During the activities of the personal life, a form of initiation then takes 33|00:02:20|460|00:02:24|480place, which is a reflection on a lower plane 34|00:02:24|800|00:02:27|040of the great (TCF, p.870) monastic initiations. 35|00:02:28|319|00:02:33|320So perhaps we might call this the reflection of initiation 36|00:02:33|820|00:02:38|000number one, but it's not initiation 37|00:02:38|500|00:02:41|690number one. The energy in the outer circle of petals 38|00:02:42|890|00:02:46|290causes it to spring apart from the 39|00:02:46|790|00:02:51|210next circle (TCF, p.870) and unfold. And in that order, spring apart and 40|00:02:51|290|00:02:55|129unfold as a complete tier of petals. 41|00:02:55|930|00:03:00|250The threefold energy becomes interactive 42|00:03:01|450|00:03:05|210within itself, and a very definite stage is thus reached. (TCF, p.870) 43|00:03:05|710|00:03:09|360It's not yet, of course, the first initiation. This series 44|00:03:09|860|00:03:13|960of initiations is seldom recognized within the physical brain 45|00:03:14|280|00:03:18|760consciousness, owing to the relatively inchoate state 46|00:03:18|840|00:03:22|839of the bodies of the vehicles and the unresponsiveness 47|00:03:22|840|00:03:25|720of brain matter. (TCF, p.870) So this is… 48|00:03:27|800|00:03:31|640This is perhaps before we have 49|00:03:32|040|00:03:34|600deliberate aspiration, 50|00:03:35|960|00:03:40|040because the person really becomes the aspirant as the fifth 51|00:03:40|540|00:03:44|600petal is unfolding. Yet these initiations, 52|00:03:44|680|00:03:48|160they are nevertheless initiations of a definite, 53|00:03:48|660|00:03:52|360though less important, character. And they involve primarily display 54|00:03:53|160|00:03:56|760within the personal life of man of an intelligent recognition of his 55|00:03:57|260|00:04:00|570group relationships on earth. (TCF, p.870) On earth, 56|00:04:01|450|00:04:05|210and not so much maybe in heaven. You know, there are 57|00:04:05|710|00:04:09|050group relationships on the higher mental plane and on the Buddhic plane, 58|00:04:09|550|00:04:13|250I suppose, on the atmic plane. And certainly we're told about those on the monadic 59|00:04:13|750|00:04:17|250plane. Actually, we're told as well about the group relationships 60|00:04:17|750|00:04:20|850on the atmic plane. Let's see 61|00:04:21|350|00:04:24|810if I can find that. This would be 62|00:04:26|400|00:04:30|880in Letters on Occult Meditation around page 39 63|00:04:31|920|00:04:35|720or so. There it is. So these 64|00:04:36|220|00:04:41|280are groupings of individuals. 65|00:04:42|880|00:04:47|120You know, we can't really call them monadic groupings, but they are groupings 66|00:04:47|620|00:04:50|800of the projection of the consciousness of the 67|00:04:51|300|00:04:54|430monad into denser types of matter. 68|00:04:55|470|00:04:58|990So 35 groups, 42 groups, 49 groups. Okay. 69|00:04:59|310|00:05:02|830And it keeps on decreasing, 70|00:05:02|910|00:05:06|350really, on the third subplane of the Buddhic plane, 71|00:05:07|790|00:05:11|07028 groups. And by the time we reach the first sub 72|00:05:11|570|00:05:14|990plane of the Buddhic plane, and I wonder how we do reach it, as those 73|00:05:15|490|00:05:19|380particular qualities and cities are reserved for 74|00:05:19|880|00:05:23|820those that are higher than a master: 21 groups. And then on the 75|00:05:24|320|00:05:26|820atmic plane, it doesn't say on which subplane, 76|00:05:27|540|00:05:30|98014 groups. And on the monadic plane, 77|00:05:31|480|00:05:35|980again, we're not told how they are divided according to subplane: 7 78|00:05:36|480|00:05:40|500great groups. So in fact, these are important 79|00:05:41|540|00:05:47|480groupings. And D.K. is kind of hinting 80|00:05:47|980|00:05:49|360at them all, right? 81|00:05:51|520|00:05:57|160So intelligent recognition 82|00:05:57|660|00:06:01|680of his group relationships on earth. So this is a very primitive, 83|00:06:02|000|00:06:05|520or early, stage of group recognition. 84|00:06:06|640|00:06:09|760But as the initiations advance, 85|00:06:11|530|00:06:15|290an ever clearer understanding of various groupings 86|00:06:15|790|00:06:20|650occurs with it. And the factor of group consciousness verging 87|00:06:21|150|00:06:24|170towards consciousness of the one is cultivated. 88|00:06:25|530|00:06:28|810We're told here that this recognition is… Okay, 89|00:06:28|970|00:06:34|730so here I'm going to say, you know, examine “Letters 90|00:06:35|230|00:06:37|860on Occult Meditation,” 91|00:06:39|700|00:06:44|940page 39. This recognition is frequently selfish 92|00:06:45|440|00:06:49|300in character, as for instance, that which the union worker 93|00:06:49|800|00:06:53|260displays—quite an assessment there. But it 94|00:06:53|760|00:06:58|100is indicative of group interplay. (TCF, p.870) And the Maha Chohan is involved 95|00:06:58|600|00:07:02|020here, it seems. So we have, 96|00:07:02|520|00:07:07|290you know, we have now many selfish 97|00:07:07|610|00:07:13|210groupings in the world, but this 98|00:07:13|690|00:07:18|170type of grouping 99|00:07:19|050|00:07:22|890for the individual is beyond 100|00:07:25|530|00:07:27|690strict individualism. 101|00:07:29|480|00:07:32|600Okay, so at least there's the formation of a grouping process. 102|00:07:33|240|00:07:37|520A similar process takes place when the second circle 103|00:07:38|020|00:07:41|400of petals is organized and ready for unfoldment. (TCF, p.870) 104|00:07:41|900|00:07:45|560I suppose spring and unfold is what we're talking 105|00:07:46|060|00:07:51|000about: spring open. 106|00:07:51|720|00:07:55|650Well, spring open and separate 107|00:07:56|370|00:08:00|010from the other groupings of petals— 108|00:08:00|510|00:08:04|290other threefold tiers. 109|00:08:04|690|00:08:06|610This time the World Teacher, (TCF, p.870) 110|00:08:07|890|00:08:11|410the master and the ego concerned are (TCF, p.870) cooperating. 111|00:08:11|970|00:08:14|610Look at those entities: the Christ, 112|00:08:15|410|00:08:19|570the master of whatever ray, and the ego being the solar angel, 113|00:08:20|290|00:08:24|330who certainly is of great intelligence 114|00:08:24|830|00:08:28|450and understanding—and the ego concerned are cooperating, for 115|00:08:28|950|00:08:33|010these smaller initiations deal with the love nature, (TCF, p.870) with astral 116|00:08:33|490|00:08:37|570or emotional organization. Now, we realize 117|00:08:38|070|00:08:42|210that in this tier of petals we get the indication of 118|00:08:42|710|00:08:47|320these monastic initiations—I'll call 119|00:08:47|820|00:08:51|640them the first five—as when the fifth petal is completely unfolded, 120|00:08:52|120|00:08:55|720there is the first initiation; the sixth petal is completely unfolded, 121|00:08:56|040|00:08:59|320there is the second initiation, and there are corresponding 122|00:08:59|820|00:09:02|840developments in the higher sacrificial tier. 123|00:09:04|440|00:09:08|280Okay? So these smaller initiations deal 124|00:09:08|780|00:09:12|680with the love nature, with astral or emotional organization, and with the recognition 125|00:09:13|180|00:09:16|750by the man in his personal life of some form 126|00:09:17|550|00:09:21|470of unselfish love (TCF, p.870)—not yet 127|00:09:23|310|00:09:27|990the unselfish love 128|00:09:28|490|00:09:32|510of the first initiation—and of a love for some object, (TCF, p.870) 129|00:09:33|010|00:09:37|190personal or ideal person, or ideal, (TCF, p.870) which leads through altruistic 130|00:09:37|690|00:09:42|660endeavor into the negation of the lower self. (TCF, p.870) So the 131|00:09:42|900|00:09:46|500development of love is 132|00:09:47|000|00:09:50|660on its way, but of a lower caliber 133|00:09:52|020|00:09:55|380than that seen in 134|00:09:55|880|00:09:59|620the first initiation—the real first initiation, the birth of the Christ 135|00:10:00|580|00:10:04|100in the heart. Well, this is interesting, 136|00:10:04|600|00:10:08|020and I think if you… I've gone over these matters in 137|00:10:08|520|00:10:11|890this book called “On the Egoic 138|00:10:12|390|00:10:16|370Lotus.” You know, it's a commentary on the egoic 139|00:10:16|870|00:10:20|810lotus, and it has a lot of original material 140|00:10:21|130|00:10:24|730in it, or at least my speculations as to how 141|00:10:25|230|00:10:29|450to bring together the rays and the 142|00:10:29|950|00:10:34|610astrological factors in relation to each petal 143|00:10:35|110|00:10:38|910of the egoic lotus and to each circle of petals 144|00:10:39|410|00:10:42|950and to all of the nine. And maybe 145|00:10:43|450|00:10:46|950a little bit of commentary on the inner petals, 146|00:10:47|450|00:10:51|110which are synthetic, but maybe not too much is yet 147|00:10:51|610|00:10:55|590to be said about those. They have some astrological correlates 148|00:10:56|090|00:10:59|910and they have some ray correlates. And they are correlated in 149|00:11:00|410|00:11:04|050their partial unfoldment with various initiations, 150|00:11:04|550|00:11:08|610the first, second and third. And they do not act 151|00:11:09|110|00:11:12|930as a coordinated tier, springing open and revealing 152|00:11:13|430|00:11:17|410the jewel until the period just before the 153|00:11:18|050|00:11:19|410fourth initiation. 154|00:11:23|330|00:11:27|410Right. So I 155|00:11:27|650|00:11:31|540suppose that the really important thing here is 156|00:11:32|040|00:11:36|140to realize that what we call the first initiation, with 157|00:11:36|640|00:11:40|260Christ as the initiator, is not 158|00:11:40|760|00:11:45|300really the first initiation. There are sort of minor 159|00:11:46|420|00:11:50|420threshold initiations to initiation 160|00:11:50|500|00:11:54|260one and two, which are also threshold 161|00:11:54|340|00:11:57|700initiations to something still higher. The true 162|00:11:58|200|00:12:02|620series, beginning with the third initiation, the first solar 163|00:12:03|020|00:12:06|140initiation. Now, changing the subject 164|00:12:06|640|00:12:10|020actually quite a bit, we're talking about DK's group of 165|00:12:10|520|00:12:12|060disciples. And there's this disciple, 166|00:12:13|180|00:12:17|380L.T.S.K. And he 167|00:12:17|880|00:12:20|780was a third ray soul, a business person, 168|00:12:23|110|00:12:27|430maybe kind of a financier. And he was very influential 169|00:12:27|510|00:12:31|670in helping with the publication of the books, 170|00:12:32|710|00:12:36|150a great enthusiast regarding the books. 171|00:12:37|190|00:12:40|870Now, so this is from DINA 2, 172|00:12:42|230|00:12:45|710and let's 173|00:12:46|210|00:12:49|510see what it says here. “This is, as I have repeatedly told you, an experiment 174|00:12:50|010|00:12:53|590in group initiation.” Always the masters are using such 175|00:12:54|090|00:12:57|750a term as “experiment” because 176|00:12:58|250|00:13:01|830they never know how things are going to work out. And the experimental 177|00:13:02|330|00:13:06|230attitude is a good one for us to have as well. (TCF, p.870) 178|00:13:08|950|00:13:12|390“This means that though each of you takes various 179|00:13:12|890|00:13:16|070steps in line with your particular point of development, 180|00:13:17|030|00:13:20|390there is also being developed by the hierarchy a new technique which, 181|00:13:21|410|00:13:25|690when perfected and understood, will initiate entire group 182|00:13:26|190|00:13:29|250units into the light and into the labour 183|00:13:29|810|00:13:32|610of the Plan.” And it is indeed a labour. 184|00:13:34|450|00:13:37|810We are told at some point that during 185|00:13:38|310|00:13:40|770the next 500 years from the time that was written, 186|00:13:41|970|00:13:47|170that the masters hope to present various such 187|00:13:47|670|00:13:50|650groups to the initiator. Maybe. 188|00:13:51|130|00:13:54|370Which initiator will that be? Will it be the Lord 189|00:13:54|870|00:13:58|810of the World? Will it be the Christ? 190|00:13:59|850|00:14:02|570It depends on the grade, 191|00:14:03|530|00:14:07|050the quality of the group being trained. 192|00:14:08|410|00:14:12|380Such a group must itself be composed of 193|00:14:12|880|00:14:16|140people who have taken initiation. And this is 194|00:14:16|640|00:14:20|020even… Even the first 195|00:14:20|520|00:14:24|500initiation is counted here. To take initiation 196|00:14:25|000|00:14:28|020in the common parlance is to pass through 197|00:14:28|100|00:14:31|780the first degree, even though the 198|00:14:32|100|00:14:35|940path of true initiation begins at what we call the 199|00:14:36|440|00:14:40|100third degree. So now he goes on to say one of these things 200|00:14:40|600|00:14:44|370interesting. “As one of your group members will only take the 201|00:14:44|870|00:14:48|450first initiation next life,” by the way. 202|00:14:48|950|00:14:53|250He will have a first ray personality, DK tells us, and a second ray personality 203|00:14:53|410|00:14:57|290in the life after that, him being a third ray 204|00:14:57|790|00:15:01|490soul. So probably… Let's see 205|00:15:01|990|00:15:07|330here. Probably L.T.S.K. 206|00:15:10|000|00:15:12|000whose name was Bernard Morrow. 207|00:15:14|560|00:15:17|600So let's see here in this… 208|00:15:18|720|00:15:21|120If I erase something that I should not. 209|00:15:24|480|00:15:25|120Okay. 210|00:15:32|480|00:15:33|120Okay. 211|00:15:36|250|00:15:40|370Right. “As one of your group members will only take 212|00:15:40|870|00:15:44|210the first initiation in the next life, it is obvious that 213|00:15:44|710|00:15:47|930the group initiation to which I refer will 214|00:15:48|430|00:15:51|970not be taken in this immediate cycle. (DINAII, p.24) The rest of the group will 215|00:15:52|470|00:15:56|490have to wait for him.” (DINAII, p.24) And what a lesson this 216|00:15:56|990|00:15:59|930is. All may be ready, 217|00:16:00|410|00:16:03|690but if an integral part of 218|00:16:04|190|00:16:08|630the group is not ready, have to wait 219|00:16:09|430|00:16:12|630for the group initiation. 220|00:16:13|510|00:16:18|870That doesn't mean that they cannot continue on their own path with their individual 221|00:16:19|510|00:16:22|790initiations. So the rest 222|00:16:23|290|00:16:27|350of the group will have to wait for them. Very interesting. And I'm 223|00:16:27|850|00:16:30|230going to put here again, before I got messed up… 224|00:16:30|550|00:16:33|950L.T.S.K. Morrow was 225|00:16:34|450|00:16:38|350his name. And his rays were, interestingly, 226|00:16:38|910|00:16:44|5103-6-5-1-3. 227|00:16:45|470|00:16:48|910All right, those were the rays and next life. 228|00:16:49|630|00:16:53|110We don't know the other rays, but it's going to be 3:1 and the life 229|00:16:53|610|00:16:57|590after that 3:2. So obviously he's 230|00:16:58|090|00:17:01|750moving more towards the ability to express the second ray. And there 231|00:17:02|250|00:17:06|520he is thrown in with all of these second 232|00:17:07|020|00:17:10|360ray types. Kind of wonder whether ultimately the monadic 233|00:17:10|860|00:17:14|120ray might not be the second. But that's just 234|00:17:14|620|00:17:18|160a wondering. Something has to attract him to Master 235|00:17:18|660|00:17:21|920D.K.'s teaching. And at one point we're 236|00:17:22|420|00:17:25|680told that those who stay with a particular master either have 237|00:17:26|180|00:17:30|990the same soul ray as he has or the same monadic 238|00:17:31|490|00:17:35|390ray as the ray he is demonstrating. Now, maybe he's demonstrating 239|00:17:35|870|00:17:39|870his soul ray predominantly when working with the 240|00:17:40|030|00:17:44|750group, or maybe he's demonstrating his monadic ray in 241|00:17:45|250|00:17:48|550combination with his soul ray. So it may not be as 242|00:17:49|050|00:17:52|350straightforward as we think, but in any case, (DINAII, p.24) 243|00:17:54|280|00:17:58|520there is a kind of bond between these 244|00:17:59|800|00:18:03|520progressing soul groups, which means they 245|00:18:04|020|00:18:09|400must move together and that perhaps 246|00:18:09|900|00:18:13|680one of their members could hold them all back. But D.K. 247|00:18:14|180|00:18:17|320kind of clarified that by saying, “Well, look, you're not really ready anyway.” 248|00:18:17|960|00:18:21|740So basically he's training his group for some 249|00:18:22|240|00:18:25|820kind of a group initiation, which some 250|00:18:26|320|00:18:30|420of them may have anticipated might happen now in that particular incarnation. 251|00:18:30|920|00:18:34|900But no, it would happen in 252|00:18:35|400|00:18:39|260the next incarnation, or at least not in the immediate 253|00:18:39|760|00:18:43|020cycle. By a cycle, he probably 254|00:18:43|520|00:18:46|380means a life cycle and the incarnational period. 255|00:18:47|960|00:18:52|880Okay, so that is a reference 256|00:18:53|380|00:18:57|320from Dinah2, where he kind of looks back and assesses the 257|00:18:57|820|00:19:01|320progress of the group and groups 258|00:19:01|820|00:19:05|440over the last eight, nine, ten years. All right, 259|00:19:05|940|00:19:09|480now here is a discussion of the first initiation for 260|00:19:10|280|00:19:12|840humanity. It's from Rays and Initiations. 261|00:19:14|180|00:19:18|100“The united activity of these two great streams 262|00:19:18|600|00:19:23|780of cosmic energy (RI, p.579) playing upon and through the third planetary (RI, p.579) 263|00:19:24|180|00:19:27|100center.” That is, we are the—in a way, 264|00:19:27|600|00:19:30|700we, humanity are the throat center. And the throat center is 265|00:19:31|200|00:19:34|420deemed to be, despite all the centers in the head, it's deemed 266|00:19:34|920|00:19:38|180to be the third center, primarily expressing the third ray. 267|00:19:40|620|00:19:43|860“So the united activity has created the unique condition in 268|00:19:44|360|00:19:48|060which,” quote, “the race of men,” close quote, “can stand 269|00:19:48|300|00:19:51|660before the planetary initiator, (RI, p.579) 270|00:19:52|700|00:19:56|380the Christ.” And when we talk about “stand before,” of course it's not 271|00:19:57|580|00:20:01|540literal, but they are in 272|00:20:02|040|00:20:06|000a type of spiritual standing. They're standing within a type 273|00:20:06|500|00:20:09|680of spiritual being, at least in their spiritual nature, 274|00:20:10|180|00:20:14|200before the initiator, the Christ. And this would be for the first initiation 275|00:20:14|520|00:20:18|400“and under the focus, stimulation of the 276|00:20:18|900|00:20:22|680hierarchy (RI, p.579) who supports the Christ in this,” obviously “pass 277|00:20:23|180|00:20:24|520through the appropriate initiation.” 278|00:20:26|360|00:20:28|040And that's going to be at first, 279|00:20:30|440|00:20:34|160the first initiation. “It should be remembered that the masses 280|00:20:34|660|00:20:37|680of men can and will take the first 281|00:20:38|180|00:20:40|880initiation.” And that, you know, 282|00:20:42|240|00:20:46|240there comes the big question about when the Christ will actually 283|00:20:47|120|00:20:50|880reappear, because his reappearance will signal that 284|00:20:51|040|00:20:54|280the portion of humanity that is to 285|00:20:54|780|00:20:58|130take the first initiation has taken it. But of 286|00:20:58|630|00:21:02|010course, we're advised not to 287|00:21:03|770|00:21:06|810say “lo here, lo there, he's here with us.” 288|00:21:08|410|00:21:11|970There are some students and teachers who 289|00:21:12|470|00:21:16|930have done that. And obviously humanity has not taken yet the 290|00:21:17|430|00:21:21|610first initiation. So many of the requirements are missing. That reasonable 291|00:21:22|110|00:21:24|490degree of peace and a reasonable degree of sharing. 292|00:21:25|050|00:21:29|450And the house cleaning of political and religious 293|00:21:29|950|00:21:33|410groups, it's all missing, but in process, we might say. 294|00:21:34|690|00:21:38|410Especially the house cleaning is in process. So obviously 295|00:21:38|910|00:21:41|410the Christ is not—has not reappeared. 296|00:21:42|290|00:21:45|450And, you know, if you put different pieces of the teaching 297|00:21:45|950|00:21:49|250together, then these errors in 298|00:21:49|750|00:21:51|650judgment will be exposed. 299|00:21:54|940|00:21:59|700So it should here be remembered that the masses of men can and 300|00:22:00|200|00:22:03|860will take the first initiation. But that a very large 301|00:22:04|360|00:22:07|860group of aspirants, far larger than realized, will pass through the experience 302|00:22:08|360|00:22:11|780of the second initiation, that of the purifying baptism. (RI, p.579) 303|00:22:12|280|00:22:15|460And, you know, you can kind of see that on 304|00:22:15|960|00:22:19|830the way. Not only the struggles of probationary 305|00:22:20|230|00:22:23|790humanity, but the struggles 306|00:22:24|290|00:22:27|030of those who are really seeking to enter the stream. 307|00:22:27|750|00:22:31|670And to purify their personality and nature as a whole. But especially 308|00:22:32|170|00:22:35|710their astral nature. So that they are really rightly oriented 309|00:22:36|210|00:22:38|790towards the plan. This is going on constantly. 310|00:22:40|390|00:22:44|160These are the people (RI, p.579) who express the essential qualities 311|00:22:44|400|00:22:46|640of… And now we have. 312|00:22:47|360|00:22:50|960Okay, so let's call this second 313|00:22:51|460|00:22:54|800initiation qualities here given. 314|00:22:55|120|00:22:58|720Okay? These are the people who express the essential qualities of 315|00:22:59|600|00:23:03|440ideological recognition. (RI, p.579) So they 316|00:23:03|940|00:23:07|520recognize what is the ideal. Because they are so conditioned by the 317|00:23:07|920|00:23:11|050sixth ray in general. The sixth ray 318|00:23:11|550|00:23:13|530of idealism and of devotion. 319|00:23:14|890|00:23:18|370So they express the essential qualities of ideological 320|00:23:18|870|00:23:22|650recognition. Devoted adherence to truth (RI, p.579) 321|00:23:22|810|00:23:26|129as sensed. (RI, p.579) It's never going to be the complete truth at this point. Well, 322|00:23:26|629|00:23:30|410when can it be? When is the complete truth ever 323|00:23:30|910|00:23:34|090really known? But we can talk about the complete truth for a particular 324|00:23:35|940|00:23:39|540system, you know, particular entity. 325|00:23:40|100|00:23:43|700And the expression of that entity. Devoted adherence 326|00:23:44|200|00:23:47|460to truth as sensed. Profound reaction to the 327|00:23:48|900|00:23:52|660physical disciplines imposed. (RI, p.579) Since they participated 328|00:23:53|160|00:23:56|420in the first initiation many lives 329|00:23:56|500|00:24:00|740earlier. Maybe in most cases these are, you know, because the second 330|00:24:01|240|00:24:05|300initiation is much separated from the first usually, 331|00:24:05|380|00:24:09|540but apparently not always. If we, you know, turn to page 332|00:24:10|040|00:24:14|260120 of “Initiation, Human and Solar,” we see some alternative 333|00:24:15|540|00:24:19|019possibilities. And you do kind of wonder whether a 334|00:24:19|519|00:24:24|740very strong training along some intellectual, 335|00:24:25|240|00:24:28|300artistic line, perhaps even before the first initiation, 336|00:24:28|800|00:24:32|630makes it possible to take the second more rapidly than 337|00:24:33|130|00:24:36|390may be the general rule. Because whatever 338|00:24:36|890|00:24:40|030our accumulations are, they don't go away. They are 339|00:24:40|990|00:24:44|910stored. And if the combination of them makes 340|00:24:44|990|00:24:48|110a new attempt easier, then it will proceed 341|00:24:48|670|00:24:52|030faster. So all of these 342|00:24:53|710|00:24:57|390qualities are here. And a growing responsiveness to the aspirational 343|00:24:58|490|00:25:01|050aspect of the astral body. So basically, 344|00:25:02|090|00:25:05|650these are… These are the 345|00:25:06|150|00:25:09|530requirements here of the first of the second 346|00:25:10|170|00:25:14|010initiation, essential qualities 347|00:25:14|510|00:25:18|410of ideological recognition. They are idealists. They are not 348|00:25:19|450|00:25:23|210totally lost in concrete things, 349|00:25:23|290|00:25:27|310and they see a better way ahead. Devoted adherence 350|00:25:27|810|00:25:31|470to the truth. And they hold the vision of truth and they 351|00:25:31|970|00:25:35|670adhere to it. It can be limited or even wrong, but they hold to 352|00:25:36|170|00:25:40|430it. You can see that in various groups 353|00:25:40|830|00:25:44|270and among various types of people, much to the 354|00:25:44|350|00:25:47|590distress of those who might have them widen 355|00:25:48|090|00:25:51|670their point of view. They learn something about physical disciplines. 356|00:25:52|170|00:25:55|280That was a regime, not a regimen, 357|00:25:55|680|00:25:59|280not entirely completed at that time. And so they continue 358|00:26:00|080|00:26:01|920the physical disciplines. 359|00:26:03|280|00:26:07|280And there's a hint here about the first initiation having 360|00:26:07|780|00:26:11|640been taken many lives earlier. But I explained that there's 361|00:26:12|140|00:26:16|400some variability there and a growing responsiveness to the aspirational 362|00:26:16|900|00:26:20|220aspect of the astral body. Aspiration is key to 363|00:26:20|720|00:26:24|580this initiation. But since it is a scientific mode of elevation, 364|00:26:25|540|00:26:29|660it does not just (RI, p.579) disappear when 365|00:26:30|160|00:26:34|500the second initiation is taken. Although different initiations may emphasize 366|00:26:34|980|00:26:38|780something other than aspiration, still it's 367|00:26:39|280|00:26:43|220sort of boiling away there and propelling the 368|00:26:43|620|00:26:47|040initiate onwards. So this aspiration 369|00:26:47|540|00:26:51|640is occupied with reaching out towards contact with, and 370|00:26:51|720|00:26:54|920expression of, the mental principle. (RI, p.579) 371|00:26:55|420|00:27:00|680And this is what D.K. calls, you know, coupled with the… whoops, 372|00:27:02|360|00:27:05|680the urge to know. He says, you know, when you 373|00:27:06|180|00:27:09|480see that, the urge to know. Let me get this correct. 374|00:27:11|080|00:27:14|210So when you see the 375|00:27:14|290|00:27:17|970requirements of the first initiation fulfilled 376|00:27:18|530|00:27:22|530and you couple them, basically he says, with the 377|00:27:23|970|00:27:27|570whoopsie, something's happened here with 378|00:27:28|070|00:27:31|650the urge to know. Then maybe you see a candidate 379|00:27:32|150|00:27:35|490for the second initiation of the new group of world servers, 380|00:27:36|050|00:27:39|330comprised inherently of 381|00:27:39|490|00:27:43|510second degree types, have to keep their eye 382|00:27:44|010|00:27:47|550open for the possible training of those who evidence the approach 383|00:27:48|030|00:27:51|070either to the first initiation or to the second. 384|00:27:52|190|00:27:55|390This particular group in the human family are, 385|00:27:55|630|00:28:00|590and this interesting way of putting it, Kammanasic initiates. 386|00:28:01|090|00:28:05|630I guess Venus is involved there because it has a lot to do with Kammanas. 387|00:28:07|000|00:28:11|080And just as those taking the first initiation 388|00:28:11|580|00:28:15|640are physical etheric initiates, I think this is a 389|00:28:16|140|00:28:19|640very interesting way of describing 390|00:28:20|680|00:28:24|040these people. And, you know, 391|00:28:25|640|00:28:29|360some of us, of course, may be among them. But once 392|00:28:29|860|00:28:34|400we really apply ourselves to the process of knowing 393|00:28:34|900|00:28:38|680and learning and deeply studying 394|00:28:38|760|00:28:42|280the spiritually occult 395|00:28:43|080|00:28:45|640texts such as the Tibetan is offering us, 396|00:28:46|440|00:28:51|120we are indicating that we're, you know, on our way towards 397|00:28:51|620|00:28:55|480the third degree, let's say, because we have achieved or 398|00:28:55|980|00:29:00|250are achieving a degree of mental illumination and spiritual 399|00:29:00|750|00:29:04|290intelligence, two of the major qualities to take the 400|00:29:04|790|00:29:08|490second degree and then move on developing those qualities, 401|00:29:10|090|00:29:13|690the quality especially of what's called intuitive instinct 402|00:29:14|170|00:29:18|010rather than simply spiritual instinct, as at the first 403|00:29:18|250|00:29:21|610degree. Okay. 404|00:29:21|850|00:29:25|630So many expansions. I think what we're seeing 405|00:29:26|130|00:29:29|910here lie before the human race and different sections of the human 406|00:29:30|410|00:29:35|470race. And it's up to us to kind of seek 407|00:29:35|970|00:29:40|150to understand where we stand in 408|00:29:40|230|00:29:43|550this process. And the groups with 409|00:29:44|050|00:29:48|230which, with whom we are working comprise perhaps 410|00:29:48|730|00:29:52|520of many probationary initiates of 411|00:29:53|020|00:29:56|880the same caliber as we are. So we 412|00:29:57|380|00:30:01|280can locate ourselves in this path, 413|00:30:02|000|00:30:06|360upon this path towards spiritual 414|00:30:06|860|00:30:10|600progress by observing closely our own nature and that 415|00:30:11|100|00:30:14|880of others in relation to the requirements. It must 416|00:30:15|380|00:30:18|080not be inferred from the above that humanity as a whole… 417|00:30:19|060|00:30:20|740Uh huh. Well this is another… 418|00:30:22|340|00:30:25|540Yeah, we're talking about the need here 419|00:30:25|620|00:30:29|020for lots of 5th 420|00:30:29|520|00:30:31|300degree initiates in the immediate future. 421|00:30:32|580|00:30:35|380And so there's been a jump here of some hundreds of pages. 422|00:30:35|700|00:30:39|420It must not be inferred from the above that humanity as a whole will 423|00:30:39|920|00:30:44|020be taking the fifth initiation. For such is not the case, (RI, p.648) 424|00:30:44|870|00:30:48|390nor is it likely to be the case for a long, 425|00:30:49|110|00:30:49|990long time. 426|00:30:52|390|00:30:55|910Even, you know, we have another round to run before 427|00:30:56|470|00:31:00|310even some of those who have come from the Moon-chain will really 428|00:31:00|389|00:31:03|990solidly be on the path. So things 429|00:31:04|310|00:31:07|910seem to progress slowly, but at the present time 430|00:31:07|990|00:31:15|030there is an acceleration in this vast range 431|00:31:15|750|00:31:19|350of possibility, the millions of years that it 432|00:31:19|850|00:31:23|750has taken. There is an acceleration on the path 433|00:31:24|250|00:31:27|670at this time due to the influence of 434|00:31:28|630|00:31:33|190certain great astronomical factors 435|00:31:34|150|00:31:38|370and the change of ages and the change of the Platonic 436|00:31:38|870|00:31:42|410years, moving from the 25,000 approximately 437|00:31:42|910|00:31:46|650Platonic year of Pisces into the approximately 438|00:31:47|150|00:31:50|49025,000 year Platonic year of Aquarius and the 439|00:31:51|370|00:31:54|610sub influence of the 440|00:31:55|110|00:31:58|690equinoctial age of Aquarius lasting 441|00:31:59|190|00:32:02|410some 2,000-2,500 years. All of these 442|00:32:02|910|00:32:06|370things are very influential, plus the initiatory 443|00:32:08|370|00:32:11|570status and condition of our planetary 444|00:32:12|070|00:32:15|810Logos who is passing through some major stimulations. 445|00:32:16|450|00:32:20|450Okay, so many advanced souls. And this is interesting, 446|00:32:20|950|00:32:24|330of course, because the need is there, you know, perhaps amounting 447|00:32:24|830|00:32:26|930to many thousands. Many thousands. 448|00:32:29|340|00:32:31|740See here. Got a little… 449|00:32:33|340|00:32:36|380Such is not the case. Yeah, perhaps amounting 450|00:32:36|880|00:32:39|740to many thousands. Maybe I can make that work. Right. 451|00:32:41|500|00:32:45|180May take this initiation—the fifth. 452|00:32:45|660|00:32:49|180The fifth… Mel. 453|00:32:49|260|00:32:52|340Remember that the fourth and fifth 454|00:32:52|840|00:32:58|490initiations can be taken in the same life, and the second, 455|00:32:58|990|00:33:03|090third, and fourth in the same life. We remember Initiation, 456|00:33:03|590|00:33:07|050Human and Solar, page 84 and 85. So, you know, 457|00:33:07|550|00:33:11|610it stands to reason. D.K. is very truthful, 458|00:33:12|110|00:33:14|250and he's non-exaggerative, you know, 459|00:33:15|210|00:33:18|370so many may take the fifth initiation, but it will 460|00:33:18|870|00:33:22|450be a huge pressure. But the masses of men everywhere, (RI, p.648) 461|00:33:22|950|00:33:27|090constituting the sum total of the world disciples, will 462|00:33:27|590|00:33:31|090eventually take either the first or second initiation, 463|00:33:31|650|00:33:35|890and much 464|00:33:36|390|00:33:39|650of this during the Age of Aquarius. 465|00:33:40|770|00:33:44|770Although in Capricorn, 466|00:33:46|130|00:33:52|450the initiatory work 467|00:33:53|250|00:33:57|210will continue intensively, and many more, 468|00:33:57|710|00:34:01|570I suppose, will take the Third Degree. And Capricorn, ruling all five initiations, 469|00:34:02|210|00:34:05|610perhaps the opportunity really continues there to go 470|00:34:06|110|00:34:09|490on to the higher initiations. The effect, however, 471|00:34:09|890|00:34:13|970of hierarchical happenings (RI, p.648) in conjunction with Shambhala 472|00:34:14|470|00:34:18|200will lead eventually to the great stimulation of the fifth 473|00:34:18|700|00:34:21|560principle of manas, (RI, p.648) the Intelligence Principle of Man. 474|00:34:21|640|00:34:27|080And let's just say, very stimulated 475|00:34:27|800|00:34:31|440during the 5th Ray age of 476|00:34:31|940|00:34:35|880Aquarius, because, after all, you know, the accompaniment 477|00:34:36|040|00:34:39|960of the Seventh Ray with the Aquarian Age indicates 478|00:34:40|460|00:34:44|510that two cycles are operative. But whenever Aquarius is strengthened 479|00:34:45|010|00:34:48|670on its own and appears as an influence, the Fifth Ray is always 480|00:34:49|790|00:34:53|710borne along because Aquarius transmits 481|00:34:53|950|00:34:57|470this Fifth Ray. A revelation 482|00:34:57|970|00:35:01|150which is not perceived, which remains unrelated and unexpressed, 483|00:35:01|550|00:35:05|310is of no true service to mankind, except from 484|00:35:05|810|00:35:09|670a purely subjective standpoint. (RI, p.648) It may strengthen us subjectively, 485|00:35:10|170|00:35:13|150let us say. Nevertheless, (RI, p.648) through the proposed stimulation, (RI, p.648) 486|00:35:13|230|00:35:16|850through the efforts of those who have taken or (RI, p.648) will take the 487|00:35:17|350|00:35:20|650fifth Initiation, the Revelation, as it's called, and through the new 488|00:35:21|150|00:35:25|170direction of First Ray energy from (RI, p.648) Shambhala 489|00:35:25|670|00:35:29|130in ways we cannot conceive—although the Shambhala impacts have been occurring— 490|00:35:29|450|00:35:33|050the mental plane will receive such 491|00:35:33|550|00:35:37|290an inflow of energy (RI, p.648) that the thinking principle, (RI, p.648) the reasoning factor within humanity, (RI, p.648) 492|00:35:37|530|00:35:40|330will reach new heights. (RI, p.648) So somewhere, 493|00:35:42|480|00:35:45|280somewhere in the Age of Aquarius, 494|00:35:46|160|00:35:51|840the Principle of Manas will 495|00:35:52|000|00:35:56|160reach its acme for this period. 496|00:35:57|760|00:36:00|720And, as I say, Aquarius carries the fifth Ray. 497|00:36:02|000|00:36:06|720And it's going to be a very scientific 498|00:36:07|600|00:36:11|340age. And, of course, the fifth Initiation, the Revelation— 499|00:36:11|420|00:36:16|220if many more take it, they are in position to make 500|00:36:16|720|00:36:20|460revelation to humanity of some very high possibilities. 501|00:36:21|740|00:36:24|380So let us set our sights upon the possibilities, 502|00:36:25|820|00:36:31|020being neither over-anxious nor careless. 503|00:36:31|980|00:36:35|860And perhaps we will find ourselves during the 504|00:36:36|360|00:36:40|380Aquarian Age, even numbered among those who can bring 505|00:36:40|880|00:36:44|860about this type of service and stimulation of humanity's 506|00:36:45|360|00:36:49|220mind that is now proposed. Now, you can see there would be 507|00:36:49|720|00:36:52|940some dangers here with the Fifth Ray, because one of the 508|00:36:53|440|00:36:57|500great dangers would be the isolation of the concrete mental sphere 509|00:36:57|980|00:37:01|420as a sphere unto itself, a kind of eighth sphere in another 510|00:37:01|920|00:37:06|780way, and this is a 511|00:37:07|280|00:37:10|860considerable tragedy, because then the people who 512|00:37:11|360|00:37:14|780undergo this veer off towards the left-hand path. 513|00:37:15|280|00:37:20|020and develop their mind, lower mind stupendously, but ignore 514|00:37:20|340|00:37:23|740the possibilities of higher degrees 515|00:37:24|240|00:37:28|100of divine love. And also the 516|00:37:29|380|00:37:32|860emergence of the separative, isolated 517|00:37:33|360|00:37:37|380personality can be greatly stimulated during 518|00:37:37|880|00:37:42|180this period. And strictly monastic magic can 519|00:37:42|680|00:37:45|820be stimulated during this period. So the 520|00:37:46|320|00:37:50|100heart and the love must counteract this 521|00:37:50|420|00:37:53|940tendency. It could be a very manipulative 522|00:37:54|020|00:37:57|220age, in some ways manipulative 523|00:37:57|720|00:38:02|040of matter. Not necessarily what the idealists 524|00:38:02|540|00:38:07|520who think about Aquarius anticipate. There are many downsides 525|00:38:08|020|00:38:11|520to this energy if it is inappropriately used. 526|00:38:13|200|00:38:16|480So anyway, a great stimulation of the mind with 527|00:38:16|980|00:38:21|080all of its attendant possibilities and its attendant 528|00:38:21|580|00:38:25|600dangers. Thus will the light 529|00:38:26|100|00:38:28|600stream forth into the minds of men. (RI, p.648) And when will that happen? Well, 530|00:38:29|400|00:38:32|560I believe I just read 531|00:38:33|060|00:38:35|240the other day that there's a lot of love energy going to be 532|00:38:35|740|00:38:39|480occurring during the Mercurian 533|00:38:39|560|00:38:43|120phase of the age of Aquarius, the smaller 534|00:38:43|620|00:38:46|960age of Aquarius. However, Mercury has loads of 535|00:38:47|460|00:38:51|630the fifth ray and third ray. Probably I believe it's fifth 536|00:38:52|130|00:38:55|950ray monad and ultimately a third ray monad. So extremely mental 537|00:38:56|450|00:39:00|270in that respect and very much related to the previous solar system, 538|00:39:00|910|00:39:04|510which was very mental. So maybe 539|00:39:05|010|00:39:08|830that acme of the development of the principle of Manus will occur during 540|00:39:08|910|00:39:12|830the Mercurian phase of the 541|00:39:13|710|00:39:18|090age of Aquarius. And the 542|00:39:18|590|00:39:22|410kind of mental stimulation that we're talking about, maybe it will occur in that age 543|00:39:23|290|00:39:26|410after we have struggled through the Saturnian 544|00:39:26|910|00:39:31|370period. Now, Saturn is also related to the development of the lower concrete 545|00:39:31|870|00:39:35|850mind. You know, you take a planet like Saturn and you can find its influences 546|00:39:36|170|00:39:40|170in many places on the cosmic physical plane. 547|00:39:41|050|00:39:44|560In a way, it's the permanent atom, 548|00:39:45|840|00:39:51|040physical permanent atom of the solar Logos. 549|00:39:51|600|00:39:55|120And maybe on our planet it 550|00:39:55|620|00:39:59|120stands for that, but within the solar system it's considered to 551|00:39:59|620|00:40:03|600be the physical permanent atom. So it's ruling the entire cosmic physical plane. 552|00:40:04|080|00:40:07|800It's active on the atmic plane, it's active on the plane of mind, especially the 553|00:40:08|300|00:40:12|420lower mind. It's active physically in 554|00:40:12|920|00:40:16|620the density of the cosmic physical 555|00:40:17|120|00:40:21|580plane, namely the lower three subplanes of the etheric 556|00:40:22|080|00:40:25|460physical systemic plane, or solar plane, as it's 557|00:40:25|960|00:40:29|380sometimes called. So Saturn is active in many places. 558|00:40:29|880|00:40:34|180And the principle here is that (TCF, p.865) if you look at any 559|00:40:34|680|00:40:37|580planet, you can find many areas of application. 560|00:40:38|350|00:40:41|870Just confine ourselves to the cosmic physical plane, because what else 561|00:40:42|370|00:40:44|670do we know? We don't even know that. So… 562|00:40:45|630|00:40:49|990But we think we know a little bit because we've been taught something, and 563|00:40:50|490|00:40:54|270we can find ways that according to the form 564|00:40:55|310|00:40:59|230through which it is (RI, p.648) manifesting, the planets will have different effects 565|00:41:01|950|00:41:05|810in different subplanes and 566|00:41:06|310|00:41:09|970subplanes and so forth of the cosmic physical plane. So you could 567|00:41:10|470|00:41:14|170take like any planet. Jupiter is exalted in 568|00:41:14|250|00:41:17|730Cancer. It's going to have a lot to do with the lunar realm 569|00:41:18|230|00:41:22|650and with the ancient ancestral fires. But at the same time it's 570|00:41:23|150|00:41:26|970a Buddhic planet. It's operative on the Buddhic plane strongly, 571|00:41:27|470|00:41:29|690giving the sense of wholeness. 572|00:41:30|960|00:41:34|120Maybe you might say that it expands the higher mind as well. (TCF, p.865) And it 573|00:41:34|620|00:41:37|920certainly is a co-ruler of the monadic plane. 574|00:41:38|560|00:41:41|800So you can do that with all the planets. It would be interesting, 575|00:41:42|300|00:41:45|720and maybe that'll be an assignment at some time in 576|00:41:46|220|00:41:50|400one of the future schools: to take all the planets and show how 577|00:41:50|900|00:41:54|320they may be active in different strata of 578|00:41:54|820|00:41:57|790their expression on the cosmic physical plane. 579|00:41:58|350|00:42:01|830It's tempting to do that. 580|00:42:02|330|00:42:06|350I mean, take a look at Neptune. Neptune is very active on the… 581|00:42:06|850|00:42:10|430on our systemic astral plane, but it's a major Buddhic planet, and 582|00:42:10|930|00:42:15|190it just stimulates the intuition on the fourth or Buddhic plane. And not to mention 583|00:42:15|690|00:42:19|670its monadic relationship, because 584|00:42:20|170|00:42:23|860it's so connected with Pisces as a special ruler. And you 585|00:42:24|360|00:42:28|540know, the monad leaves the Father's home and, turning back, it saves. 586|00:42:28|780|00:42:32|220And the power of identification comes through the 587|00:42:32|720|00:42:36|780monad. And Neptune is the great planet of identification. 588|00:42:37|100|00:42:41|020The Christ was the great expert, as far as our humanity 589|00:42:41|520|00:42:44|220is concerned, in the art of identification. 590|00:42:44|940|00:42:48|860And then, of course, we're going to go up to the cosmic 591|00:42:49|360|00:42:52|920astral plane, where Neptune has to be very influential in the 592|00:42:53|420|00:42:57|320astral body of the planetary Logos and even the astral body of the solar 593|00:42:57|820|00:43:00|840Logos. So all of this kind of application. 594|00:43:01|340|00:43:06|560Maybe I should do the three synthesizing planets here. The Uranus 595|00:43:07|060|00:43:10|920is veiled by the moon, a kind of a violet light. It has much to 596|00:43:11|420|00:43:14|800do with the systemic etheric plane. But if it has to do 597|00:43:15|280|00:43:19|290well, it also has to do with the scientific mind on 598|00:43:19|790|00:43:23|370the lower mental plane. And it has 599|00:43:23|870|00:43:25|730to do with the manasic permanent atom, 600|00:43:26|690|00:43:31|290it being a planet which carries the third ray as 601|00:43:31|790|00:43:35|570well. And if you look at the spiritual triad of atmic permanent 602|00:43:36|070|00:43:39|210atom, Buddhic and manasic permanent atoms, 603|00:43:39|710|00:43:42|970Uranus would be there. But it causes the flash 604|00:43:43|470|00:43:48|720of intuition, the blinding light which reveals 605|00:43:48|960|00:43:52|160suddenly all that has been hidden in the dark. And so 606|00:43:52|400|00:43:57|000it will have a connection with the Buddhic plane. And Uranus 607|00:43:57|500|00:44:01|520is one of those strange planets that seems to have a 1357 ray 608|00:44:02|000|00:44:05|400expression, but strangely enough is 609|00:44:05|900|00:44:09|040in some second ray lines, such as, 610|00:44:11|770|00:44:12|650well, what is it? 611|00:44:14|170|00:44:16|170Sirius, Pisces, 612|00:44:16|490|00:44:19|690Uranus, and then on to the heart, 613|00:44:20|330|00:44:23|690you know, heart hierarchy and heart center and all that. 614|00:44:23|930|00:44:27|450So it's got some second ray affiliation. And I've never been 615|00:44:27|950|00:44:31|290quite sure how to understand that. But you know, 616|00:44:32|490|00:44:36|290let's go on. Uranus is 617|00:44:36|790|00:44:40|260a planet of the first ray. It's monad 618|00:44:40|760|00:44:44|140on the first ray, maybe is not totally expressive yet, but that ties 619|00:44:44|640|00:44:48|580it in with the atmic plane, doesn't it? And let's go further and 620|00:44:49|080|00:44:52|540finally find that it is often veiled by the 621|00:44:53|040|00:44:55|940Sun in Leo especially. 622|00:44:56|180|00:45:00|260And we have this Leonian plane 623|00:45:00|660|00:45:03|980called the Sea of Fire. It's Logoic. And naturally 624|00:45:04|480|00:45:07|980we would expect a first-ray planet that is veiled by the Sun to be 625|00:45:08|480|00:45:12|130influential on the Logoic level. So you 626|00:45:12|630|00:45:15|970know, let's find a way to put the planets there. I think with 627|00:45:16|470|00:45:22|730some of the non-sacred planets, you're not going to find that 628|00:45:23|230|00:45:26|729they rise very high on the cosmic 629|00:45:27|229|00:45:30|530physical plane. Maybe Mars does not, Earth does 630|00:45:31|030|00:45:34|810not. I don't know about Pluto, because there is kind of a triangle 631|00:45:35|310|00:45:38|320that goes Aries, Pluto, Shambhala. 632|00:45:39|360|00:45:42|440So maybe something of Pluto rises high, I don't know. 633|00:45:42|940|00:45:46|600It's considered to be an esoteric planet, but it's also non-sacred 634|00:45:47|100|00:45:51|080and recently is somewhat demoted, you know, to a planetoid 635|00:45:51|580|00:45:55|120or whatever. But then there's lots of things the occultists know that the 636|00:45:56|240|00:46:00|000present astronomers, as helpful 637|00:46:00|500|00:46:03|120as they are, they don't yet know. So anyway, 638|00:46:03|440|00:46:07|040assign the planets to the different levels of the cosmic physical 639|00:46:07|540|00:46:11|110plane and see what they do. And it all depends what you're 640|00:46:11|610|00:46:15|830working on, too, in your own life. You know, if you're working on, 641|00:46:17|990|00:46:21|470let's say the spiritual will, then Atma, then Saturn is 642|00:46:21|970|00:46:25|230going to be very important. If you're working on really concretizing 643|00:46:25|730|00:46:29|830the mind and being distinctive, 644|00:46:29|910|00:46:32|390distinct about what you say and careful, 645|00:46:33|680|00:46:37|120cautious in your reasoning, Saturn will be important there. 646|00:46:37|200|00:46:40|760You know, if you're working on fulfilling your karma, 647|00:46:41|260|00:46:45|280sort of karma yoga on the physical plane, Saturn will be important there. 648|00:46:46|160|00:46:48|880So just generically figure out what you're working on, 649|00:46:49|519|00:46:52|640you know, where your major polarization is. 650|00:46:53|280|00:46:57|640and then you can choose a planet which 651|00:46:58|140|00:47:01|250will be active, important on the level 652|00:47:01|750|00:47:05|330you are working. Then go into your horoscope and, you know, 653|00:47:05|830|00:47:09|810one of the layers of the horoscope anyway, and try to figure out how 654|00:47:10|310|00:47:14|170that works. You know, there's a lot we have to do by ourselves. The D.K. 655|00:47:14|670|00:47:18|530has given us various hints, but we, in 656|00:47:19|030|00:47:22|490the matter of application, just as each one of us has to figure out 657|00:47:22|990|00:47:27|010how to build the antahkarana basically by ourselves, in the matter of application, 658|00:47:27|510|00:47:31|460we have to take all that has been given and find a way to 659|00:47:33|780|00:47:37|140apply it. That's our job. Okay, 660|00:47:37|300|00:47:39|060so maybe a little more here. 661|00:47:40|260|00:47:42|500Petals open at the portal of initiation. 662|00:47:43|300|00:47:47|300Well, this is partially from some 663|00:47:47|800|00:47:50|420material that I have been commenting on. But let's just see. 664|00:47:50|980|00:47:55|150All these stages have to work out on all the three lower 665|00:47:55|650|00:47:59|350planes and the three lower bodies. This they do according to the 666|00:47:59|850|00:48:03|510particular ray and sub-ray. In this fashion, the work of the disciple is 667|00:48:04|010|00:48:08|230carried forward and his testing and training carried out until the 668|00:48:08|730|00:48:11|950two circles of petals are unfolded and the third is organized. 669|00:48:12|450|00:48:17|390I mean, what do we have? You know, first organization and then unfoldment 670|00:48:17|890|00:48:22|220and then interactivity of the entire circle 671|00:48:22|720|00:48:26|180of three and then the kind of springing open of the… 672|00:48:28|500|00:48:32|260of the three as a distinctive unit. 673|00:48:33|540|00:48:37|620So let's see where we are here. I was just 674|00:48:38|120|00:48:41|900choosing these random references that had not been covered. We're still in A Treatise 675|00:48:42|400|00:48:45|900on Cosmic Fire. Thus he is brought through right direction of 676|00:48:46|400|00:48:49|750energy and wise manipulation of force currents 677|00:48:50|230|00:48:53|990to the portal of initiation and graduates out of the Hall of Learning. 678|00:48:54|310|00:48:57|430The Hall of Learning consists of petals 679|00:48:57|670|00:49:02|070four, five and six and have 680|00:49:02|570|00:49:05|670to do with the development of the personality 681|00:49:06|170|00:49:10|110along socio-cultural lines. You know, 682|00:49:10|610|00:49:13|750normal type of education, normal type of civilization 683|00:49:14|390|00:49:17|880into the great Hall of Wisdom, characterized 684|00:49:18|280|00:49:21|720at least in the beginning by petals number seven, eight and nine. 685|00:49:22|520|00:49:25|720As we continue with synthesis, we're going to be 686|00:49:26|760|00:49:30|800growing in the Hall of Wisdom. That hall where he gradually becomes 687|00:49:31|300|00:49:34|720aware of forces and powers latent in 688|00:49:35|220|00:49:38|600his own ego individually, yeah, and his egoic 689|00:49:38|920|00:49:39|320group. 690|00:49:42|820|00:49:46|820So I've developed all this at some point in different references. 691|00:49:46|900|00:49:50|500And I'm not going to discuss 692|00:49:50|660|00:49:54|580that because the issue of the first initiation is 693|00:49:55|080|00:49:59|100what we're dealing with. And I've 694|00:49:59|600|00:50:03|220said many things and written many things about these matters. 695|00:50:03|300|00:50:06|420So this is not what to take up at the moment. 696|00:50:07|860|00:50:13|130Although I am really 697|00:50:13|630|00:50:16|850interested as to where exactly this comes from. 698|00:50:17|250|00:50:21|010I assume it reads in Cosmic Fire and… 699|00:50:22|690|00:50:27|010Right. So let's just do that and 700|00:50:27|510|00:50:29|330see if I can maybe find it. 701|00:50:32|610|00:50:36|770Okay. There's only one and I suppose it's 702|00:50:38|630|00:50:42|390right. Page 867 in 703|00:50:42|890|00:50:45|110A Treatise on Cosmic Fire. 704|00:50:46|950|00:50:49|750Okay. And let's see where we are in this. 705|00:50:53|430|00:50:57|750Right. Well, I think, you know, all these things I've gone over in 706|00:50:57|990|00:51:01|670writing and probably have 707|00:51:02|170|00:51:05|680done a better job with it 708|00:51:06|480|00:51:10|720in the written commentary 709|00:51:10|800|00:51:14|320that can be found regarding the Treatise on Cosmic 710|00:51:14|820|00:51:18|480Fire on Makara at the moment. 711|00:51:19|760|00:51:23|720So there is where I suggest you go rather than have me kind 712|00:51:24|220|00:51:28|000of improvise about it right at this point. Because these 713|00:51:29|050|00:51:32|530references are kind of somewhat disjointed as 714|00:51:33|030|00:51:37|130it is. So I don't need to go off on a big tangent. 715|00:51:38|330|00:51:42|130Suffice it to say that when we really have the 716|00:51:42|630|00:51:45|770complete unfoldment of the second tier of petals, 717|00:51:46|730|00:51:49|050which is the Hall of Learning, 718|00:51:50|490|00:51:52|490we have the second initiation. 719|00:51:53|370|00:51:57|640And interesting that learning, 720|00:51:58|140|00:52:02|640the Hall of Learning, rather than the Hall of Wisdom, is involved particularly with 721|00:52:03|040|00:52:06|920the probationary initiations or initiations of 722|00:52:07|420|00:52:11|400the threshold. Of course, there is a corresponding development not complete 723|00:52:11|900|00:52:14|160yet in the seventh and eighth petal. 724|00:52:14|960|00:52:18|960And there, only once the ninth petal is fully ready 725|00:52:19|460|00:52:23|740to unfold, do all the others unfold with it in fullness. 726|00:52:25|100|00:52:28|060So, as I say, you may begin work on a petal, 727|00:52:28|140|00:52:30|860but you're going to be working on other petals 728|00:52:31|020|00:52:33|740before the first one is completely finished. 729|00:52:34|700|00:52:38|340And, you know, it'd be interesting in our life to look at 730|00:52:38|840|00:52:41|860the kinds of things we do and, as it 731|00:52:42|360|00:52:46|300were, point to the petal involved in the doing 732|00:52:47|300|00:52:51|300those things. You know, like if we fall into some 733|00:52:51|800|00:52:55|300kind of egotistical state, we are reverting 734|00:52:55|800|00:52:59|100back to a certain portion. That's all I can say at the moment of 735|00:52:59|600|00:53:02|900the fifth petal. And when we're learning how to sacrifice something, 736|00:53:03|400|00:53:07|020at least individually, well, we're operative in the 737|00:53:07|520|00:53:12|220sixth petal. And when we're learning about even 738|00:53:12|720|00:53:16|700greater sacrifices, then maybe the 739|00:53:17|200|00:53:21|220ninth petal is being involved here in the 740|00:53:21|720|00:53:25|260circle called the sacrifice circle. So it's sacrifice. 741|00:53:25|760|00:53:27|820Sacrifice is the ninth petal. 742|00:53:29|100|00:53:33|380Before that, we had a love sacrifice, and then we had knowledge 743|00:53:33|880|00:53:37|820sacrifice. They are lesser degrees. I guess what I'm pointing out is that 744|00:53:38|220|00:53:40|860on the path to our spiritual development, 745|00:53:41|800|00:53:45|960different aspects of our internal energy system are 746|00:53:46|280|00:53:50|360being drawn upon and are being activated. And it would be nice 747|00:53:50|860|00:53:55|360to know which they are in 748|00:53:55|860|00:53:59|560correlation with what we are doing. You know, then we will tread 749|00:53:59|880|00:54:03|200the conscious path. We're going to be a lot more aware of 750|00:54:03|700|00:54:08|080what we're doing, instead of just blundering 751|00:54:08|580|00:54:13|080on, as all of us have done at various times, and kind 752|00:54:13|580|00:54:17|320of colliding with that which we shouldn't collide with, and then having to make up 753|00:54:17|820|00:54:21|560for it and balance the karma and so forth. So let us tread as 754|00:54:22|060|00:54:26|160much as possible the conscious way. And that's what Master D.K. is helping 755|00:54:26|660|00:54:30|120us do: to tread the path in a 756|00:54:30|620|00:54:34|160conscious manner—alert, observant, 757|00:54:34|320|00:54:37|600knowing the energy is involved—rather than 758|00:54:38|100|00:54:41|920just mystically longing for something to happen. And it might, but we can't 759|00:54:42|420|00:54:46|480reproduce how it happened. And if we take the mental 760|00:54:46|980|00:54:50|360scientific way, then we can always—just about always— 761|00:54:50|440|00:54:54|320reproduce what is the desirable 762|00:54:54|820|00:54:58|480outcome. So in the age of Aquarius, which will be a scientific 763|00:54:58|980|00:55:02|760age, more and more we'll be able to tread the conscious way 764|00:55:03|240|00:55:06|600and the intellectually alive 765|00:55:06|920|00:55:10|480method. We cannot— 766|00:55:10|980|00:55:15|440And it will be as well a combination of Manas 767|00:55:15|940|00:55:19|280and Buddhi, because the intuition will be stimulated. 768|00:55:19|780|00:55:22|960So many scientists have their intuition stimulated if they are of 769|00:55:23|460|00:55:26|720the high kind. You know, a lot of 770|00:55:27|220|00:55:31|160the people who are unveiling the mysteries of matter—they've been 771|00:55:31|660|00:55:34|800in the fifth Ray Ashram and now, well, they're still in the fifth Ray Ashram, 772|00:55:35|300|00:55:39|040even though it's been a little bit put under the control 773|00:55:39|540|00:55:42|760of the third ray and not left to be autonomous. They have 774|00:55:43|260|00:55:46|880definitely used the intuition to come up with some of the things 775|00:55:47|380|00:55:49|240that they now bring to us. 776|00:55:50|600|00:55:54|000Okay, let's see if there's a little 777|00:55:54|500|00:55:57|400more to go here or whether we should just think about— 778|00:55:59|480|00:56:03|240Yeah, well, I'll just do this one, and it's something that I said before and 779|00:56:04|810|00:56:08|450that's really important. And it's from “Cosmic 780|00:56:08|950|00:56:11|690Fire” again: “696 on the Buddhic plane. 781|00:56:12|330|00:56:16|650When flashing forth at initiation, this number signifies 782|00:56:17|150|00:56:21|370the full development of the fifth principle or quality.” 783|00:56:22|730|00:56:25|850That is, in a way, the soul principle. It is the mind principle, 784|00:56:26|170|00:56:28|170the completed cycle of the ego. 785|00:56:29|530|00:56:32|820Upon the five rays of the Maha Chohan, the Brahma cycle, 786|00:56:32|970|00:56:36|490we might say, personality is completed. The Vishnu cycle is 787|00:56:36|990|00:56:40|890beginning. Christ is entering as the initiator 788|00:56:42|010|00:56:45|530at the beginning of the Vishnu cycle and the assimilation of 789|00:56:46|030|00:56:49|890all that is to be learned upon them and the 790|00:56:50|390|00:56:54|370attainment not only of full self-consciousness, but also of the consciousness of the 791|00:56:54|870|00:56:59|630group wherein a man is found. We looked before on page 39 792|00:57:00|130|00:57:03|870about these different egoic groups and even Buddic groups. 793|00:57:04|370|00:57:08|190Not yet, though. Here it infers. 794|00:57:08|670|00:57:12|270Now this is the important point, really. It infers the 795|00:57:12|770|00:57:16|430full unfoldment of five of the egoic petals, 796|00:57:17|070|00:57:20|750leaving four to open before the final initiation. 797|00:57:20|990|00:57:24|110What is that? Is it the third, 798|00:57:24|430|00:57:28|110or is it the fourth? I have 799|00:57:28|610|00:57:31|870a feeling here that… let's just say nine 800|00:57:32|370|00:57:36|630petals open before, or before… 801|00:57:38|390|00:57:42|069or at the third initiation. 802|00:57:42|710|00:57:46|070But you know, they're opening. Maybe 803|00:57:46|230|00:57:50|510certain types of interaction and interplay 804|00:57:51|010|00:57:54|740and all that continues as we move on towards the fourth 805|00:57:55|240|00:58:00|180degree. So anyway, five petals open at 806|00:58:00|680|00:58:03|060the first initiation, 807|00:58:04|500|00:58:08|020four more to go before the final initiation. Is calling the 808|00:58:08|520|00:58:12|460final initiation here the fifth initiation. So in 809|00:58:12|960|00:58:16|700this context, the final initiation 810|00:58:17|200|00:58:19|300is the fifth initiation. 811|00:58:20|670|00:58:25|270So… And I 812|00:58:25|770|00:58:29|550guess what I want there is to make all of that blue 813|00:58:29|630|00:58:33|910so we can distinguish it from the 814|00:58:34|410|00:58:37|470black writing in this case from Master D.K. Well, you know, 815|00:58:37|710|00:58:41|070on and on we study, on and on, and 816|00:58:42|830|00:58:46|510it all starts to come together and we 817|00:58:47|010|00:58:51|670become illumined. And the light looks 818|00:58:52|170|00:58:55|830great to us, but it's still paltry compared to the greater lights. 819|00:58:56|330|00:59:00|550And on and on and on and on until we find the 820|00:59:01|050|00:59:05|470greatest light possible in this universe, which is still paltry 821|00:59:06|350|00:59:10|110when compared with the 822|00:59:10|610|00:59:15|480revelation of absolute infinity in 823|00:59:15|980|00:59:19|520the post-pralayic, pre-universal 824|00:59:20|020|00:59:23|720state. Okay, so let's say then 825|00:59:23|800|00:59:30|360that this is the end of… extra 826|00:59:31|240|00:59:34|960references first initiation 827|00:59:35|460|00:59:38|690commentary webinar. Oh, 828|00:59:39|250|00:59:42|290there's got to be… Got to be a way here. 829|00:59:43|570|00:59:46|290I'm always missing my codes. 830|00:59:46|610|00:59:47|810Extra references. 831|00:59:49|250|00:59:51|410Okay, so it's… That's it. 832|00:59:52|450|00:59:55|970Er, and this is it here. 833|00:59:56|530|00:59:59|890Extra references for the first F.T.F. 834|01:00:00|530|01:00:01|410I.V.C. 835|01:00:03|010|01:00:05|250E.R.F. E.R. 836|01:00:06|300|01:00:09|100F.T.F. Okay. 837|01:00:09|180|01:00:09|900E.R. 838|01:00:12|300|01:00:17|740F.T.F.I.V.C. 839|01:00:19|100|01:00:22|260All right, got it. Extra references for the 840|01:00:22|760|01:00:26|220first initiation video commentary. And this has been 841|01:00:26|300|01:00:30|180number nine. And the date is the 2nd 842|01:00:30|680|01:00:33|940of July, 2018. And then we're going to have the 843|01:00:34|440|01:00:37|900beginning of extras. 844|01:00:38|400|01:00:42|020I get another chance. Extra references for the 845|01:00:42|100|01:00:45|620first initiation video commentary. I got it. 846|01:00:45|940|01:00:49|580Number 10. Well, I hope you can follow 847|01:00:50|080|01:00:53|620some of this. I know you can. And the skill to do that 848|01:00:53|940|01:00:57|340will develop as we go. Now, obviously I'm not Master 849|01:00:57|840|01:01:01|660D.K. here, nor do I have the clarity or the knowledge or the certainty that 850|01:01:02|160|01:01:05|420he has, but I'm trying to at least help 851|01:01:05|920|01:01:09|380us connect certain things. And what… What you bear in mind here is 852|01:01:09|880|01:01:13|660that when you've succeeded in unfolding the love… love petal 853|01:01:14|700|01:01:17|780so that it is fully unfolded, you've passed through the stage of 854|01:01:18|280|01:01:21|940the aspirant and the usual way of regarding the probationer, and you have 855|01:01:22|440|01:01:27|870become a first degree initiate. And there's… up there in the sacrifice 856|01:01:28|370|01:01:32|270petals, there is activity, especially in the seventh petal, 857|01:01:32|430|01:01:36|350and increasing activity in the sixth, which will unfold 858|01:01:36|670|01:01:40|190completely, with the result being that 859|01:01:40|690|01:01:44|270you will be a second degree initiate. Interesting. 860|01:01:44|770|01:01:48|590That unfoldment of the sixth petal must be rather slow because so many 861|01:01:48|750|01:01:52|110lives can elapse between the first and second initiation. 862|01:01:52|860|01:01:56|260So you see how those pieces of information are put together. All right, well, 863|01:01:56|760|01:02:00|060I've gone over a little bit and I think it's time to 864|01:02:00|540|01:02:03|180call it. Call it. 865|01:02:04|460|01:02:07|260Yeah, here we are. 866|01:02:07|340|01:02:10|780Okay, very good. And we'll see you… study hard 867|01:02:11|280|01:02:15|180and hopefully you can gather something out 868|01:02:15|680|01:02:19|100of this particular method of presentation, which is a lot of 869|01:02:20|070|01:02:23|990cross-referencing. Now, of course, you have to establish some 870|01:02:24|490|01:02:27|030knowledge of the original before you can cross-reference, 871|01:02:27|590|01:02:31|190obviously. Right. But do 872|01:02:31|690|01:02:34|630your best, and the light will grow.