1|00:00:12|160|00:00:19|540Hi everybody! We are dealing now with Esoteric Astrology Adventure number 17. 2|00:00:19|540|00:00:29|040We have been working on the creative hierarchies, a profound subject, difficult subject, 3|00:00:29|840|00:00:34|600and perhaps we will only be skimming the surface in a way, but we'll do the best we can. 4|00:00:35|680|00:00:46|620We worked as far as page 36. I've been trying to list the pages really in our last webinar. 5|00:00:46|620|00:00:53|400We discussed only pages 34 and 35, the two creative hierarchy tabulations, and a little bit of 36. 6|00:00:54|120|00:00:58|080We began with some statements about the creative hierarchies. 7|00:00:59|480|00:01:07|320That's where we were ending, rather. These are hierarchies of creative powers, and they are monadic hierarchies. 8|00:01:07|700|00:01:13|920There are three hierarchies which are of profound significance, at least to our planet, and I believe in this solar system. 9|00:01:14|740|00:01:20|000And they are hierarchies 4, 5, and 6 in order. 10|00:01:21|080|00:01:31|360The hierarchy of human monads, the solar angels, and the lower part of the hierarchy, as well as the hierarchy of lunar lords. 11|00:01:31|760|00:01:37|000So somehow we are attempting to relate the Sun and the Moon. 12|00:01:38|940|00:01:42|500Capricorn hierarchy number 5 is in a way a solar hierarchy. 13|00:01:43|840|00:01:49|760It has to do with the solar angels, but it does have a lunar aspect to it, apparently, 14|00:01:50|440|00:01:55|460in its lower part, symbolized by the 5-pointed star pointing downward. 15|00:01:56|480|00:02:01|800Then we also discussed the idea that the fourth creative hierarchy is in reality the ninth. 16|00:02:01|800|00:02:12|760The Hierarchy of Initiates and nine initiations lie before the member of the human creative hierarchy, the fourth creative hierarchy. 17|00:02:13|500|00:02:22|460Perhaps of every hierarchy, it could be said that there are seven stages of form, 18|00:02:23|180|00:02:29|140and nine stages of consciousness represented by the nine initiations. 19|00:02:29|140|00:02:33|880We now are moving on to point number 4. 20|00:02:35|100|00:02:41|8804. We are told in A Treatise on Cosmic Fire that in the ninth, tenth and eleventh Hierarchies 21|00:02:42|020|00:02:48|840(counting from the bottom upwards) lies the clue to the nature of Agni, the Lord of Fire, 22|00:02:49|640|00:02:53|540the sum total of systemic vitality. 23|00:02:54|320|00:03:00|860Agni is in a way the personality nature of the solar Logos. 24|00:03:02|200|00:03:08|620It has been said as well that Agni is prominent on our cosmic physical plane, 25|00:03:09|500|00:03:18|760on the monadic, atmic, and buddhic planes, but now the clue to the nature of Agni is being taken still higher. 26|00:03:20|280|00:03:22|740And let us see here. 27|00:03:24|000|00:03:29|680What did he say? The 9th, 10th, and 11th give us the clue to the nature of Agni. 28|00:03:30|640|00:03:36|100The 9th, 10th, and 11th hierarchies, counting from the bottom upward, 29|00:03:36|420|00:03:43|520lies the clue to the nature of Agni, the Lord of Fire, the sum total of systemic vitality. 30|00:03:43|520|00:03:57|540Agni is probably even more than that because Agni is related to the astral body and lower mental body as well 31|00:03:57|880|00:04:05|600of the solar Logos, but systemic vitality is the animating energy of the entire cosmic physical plane, 32|00:04:05|760|00:04:07|340and Agni apparently gives us that. 33|00:04:07|340|00:04:14|080So interestingly we are dealing with the hierarchies that start with Aries, Taurus, and Gemini, 34|00:04:15|140|00:04:19|880and these are in a way abstract signs, the first three signs, 35|00:04:20|300|00:04:28|920and apparently are the originating power of Agni as it finds its expression on the cosmic physical plane. 36|00:04:28|920|00:04:35|300As I said, Agni being the personality nature of the solar Logos, 37|00:04:35|440|00:04:40|840it obviously has expressions on still higher cosmic planes. 38|00:04:42|420|00:04:50|420It fits very well, the idea of Agni fitting with Aries is a close fit, 39|00:04:51|360|00:04:57|880and Aries the primary fire sign, the major first-ray sign, 40|00:04:57|880|00:05:05|840it seems appropriate to begin with the Lord of Fire on the fourth level or sub-plane of the cosmic astral plane. 41|00:05:06|220|00:05:19|380Many things are said about Agni, sometimes we would think it would be confined simply to the mental plane of the cosmic physical plane. 42|00:05:19|900|00:05:27|500Sometimes these three planes, monadic, spiritual, and intuitive, are considered to be expressions of Agni. 43|00:05:27|500|00:05:32|660Or perhaps, including even the Logoic plane, the sea of fire, that would make sense. 44|00:05:33|520|00:05:43|440But if we look at still higher planes, we will find that Agni is operative on all these 18 cosmic sub-planes, 45|00:05:43|940|00:05:51|960and maybe in a certain sense Agni has power on the higher cosmic mental plane. 46|00:05:51|960|00:05:58|720All of this has to be sorted out. There are different expressions of Agni, the Lord of Fire. 47|00:05:59|980|00:06:10|680Agni in some ways is equivalent to Brahma, but in some ways still more, and connected with solar fire and electric fire. 48|00:06:11|680|00:06:25|500OK, so the sum total of systemic vitality will be related to the hierarchies ruled by the signs Aries, Taurus, and Gemini. 49|00:06:26|280|00:06:33|140Creative hierarchies ruled by the signs Aries, Taurus, and Gemini. 50|00:06:34|080|00:06:38|260OK, then point number five. 51|00:06:42|180|00:06:49|0005. Much light can come to the earnest student through a study of the numbers connected with these Hierarchies. 52|00:06:49|000|00:07:04|700Well, OK, we have been emphasizing that fact exactly: that if we use the power of Mercury and of pure reason to relate hierarchies, 53|00:07:05|360|00:07:14|340or parts of Hierarchies with similar numbers, lines of illumination can appear between these Hierarchies, 54|00:07:14|340|00:07:18|080revealing the relationship between their nature and function. 55|00:07:19|260|00:07:23|660a. The first 5 are regarded as pure abstractions. 56|00:07:23|740|00:07:41|820Although the fifth Creative Hierarchy is focused on the highest of the cosmic etheric planes, on the cosmic physical plane. 57|00:07:41|820|00:07:48|980So whether it is entirely a pure abstraction yet, or is heading in the direction of becoming a pure abstraction, 58|00:07:50|640|00:07:55|020this is something we can look into with greater care. 59|00:07:56|780|00:07:59|920b. Hierarchy One has the numbers—6.1.7. 60|00:08:00|100|00:08:08|560Well, you know, let's just show this, because after all, we've been seeing this. 61|00:08:08|560|00:08:12|060Hierarchy One has the numbers six, one, and seven. 62|00:08:12|220|00:08:15|080Yes, sure enough, and a picture is worth a thousand words. 63|00:08:16|700|00:08:22|880Hierarchy Two has the numbers—7.2.6. 64|00:08:24|700|00:08:25|620There they are. 65|00:08:26|440|00:08:33|880Hierarchy Three I suppose it goes on to that, has the numbers eight, three, and five. 66|00:08:35|260|00:08:38|200Here they are: has the numbers—8.3.5. 67|00:08:38|880|00:08:41|800Obviously a very intellectual hierarchy. 68|00:08:42|480|00:08:48|880Every one of these numbers can also stand for a kind of ray presence. 69|00:08:49|700|00:08:55|300For instance, you know, if we're looking at the hierarchy of monads, 70|00:08:56|020|00:09:00|860what we find here is a number six, as well as a number seven. 71|00:09:00|860|00:09:06|700Well, the monads are lords of ceaseless and persevering devotion. 72|00:09:06|840|00:09:07|920There's your number six. 73|00:09:08|860|00:09:16|740And their point is to put in a material manifestation on the very lowest plane 74|00:09:16|740|00:09:24|260and manifest the monadic nature redemptively on even the very lowest or the seventh plane. 75|00:09:24|260|00:09:35|740As far as ray number two goes, they create great formative sounds, 76|00:09:36|740|00:09:46|520which are seven great sound geometries which are archetypally related to all lesser forms. 77|00:09:47|420|00:09:58|480So the seven great wheels on the monadic plane have to be related to hierarchy number two 78|00:09:58|480|00:10:01|400or number seven, depending on how we look at it. 79|00:10:01|740|00:10:05|540And if you want to think about it, these numbers are very significant because 80|00:10:06|540|00:10:13|100we have Jupiter as the ruler of this hierarchy. 81|00:10:13|940|00:10:17|540Jupiter and Virgo. Virgo is the sixth sign. Take a look at that. 82|00:10:18|060|00:10:27|920Virgo is the sixth sign, and Jupiter, its hierarchical ruler, expresses principally rays two and rays seven 83|00:10:27|920|00:10:30|840because Jupiter is a ceremonial planet. 84|00:10:31|560|00:10:40|860So somehow all of these numbers are fitting together and showing intimate, reasonable relationships. 85|00:10:42|680|00:10:50|560Hierarchy number four has the numbers nine, four, four. That is the human Creative Hierarchy. 86|00:10:52|960|00:10:56|340Let's see. Okay. We're looking at that. 87|00:10:56|780|00:11:00|060And here it is: Hierarchy Four has the numbers—9.4.4. 88|00:11:00|180|00:11:03|600And then we're going to see ten, five, and three for the next one. 89|00:11:03|840|00:11:08|040Hierarchy Five has the numbers—10.5.3. also intellectual and will numbers. 90|00:11:08|040|00:11:12|880But the number one or ten has to do with identity. 91|00:11:13|680|00:11:20|420And it is here that self-consciousness in a somewhat limited sense is created. 92|00:11:20|520|00:11:21|780So that fits with the ten. 93|00:11:22|720|00:11:31|560And the five, of course, with the fifth plane and with the idea that these solar Angels are great lords of manus 94|00:11:31|560|00:11:38|000and intelligent to conceal, but it will also confuse the student. It is necessary to take note of this as in The Secret Doctrine reference will be found to the Hierarchies under different numbers. This serves to conceal, but it will also confuse the student. 95|00:11:38|700|00:11:45|100So D.K. in this case is trying for us not to fall into a false blind. 96|00:11:46|080|00:11:52|650If he needs to blind a particular subject, he does so, but he doesn't want to induce confusion 97|00:11:53|120|00:12:00|260or at least he wants to alert us to different numerical systems, numbering systems, which could confuse us. 98|00:12:00|260|00:12:06|3206. The first four Hierarchies achieved liberation in the first solar system. 99|00:12:06|420|00:12:12|160Well, was it really the first solar system? It was the first major solar system. 100|00:12:13|200|00:12:19|800In other words, D.K. tells us there have been five solar systems and we are in the second major solar system. 101|00:12:19|920|00:12:22|380The previous one was the first major. 102|00:12:22|380|00:12:29|540It probably was given very much the development of the personality nature of the solar Logos 103|00:12:29|540|00:12:38|600and personality, we realize, takes its origin from the plane of mind. 104|00:12:38|960|00:12:44|760So the idea that it was an intellectual system but also a personal system makes a lot of sense. 105|00:12:44|760|00:12:54|120And we are in the soul system in which initiations are being taken by our solar Logos 106|00:12:54|120|00:13:03|660because he's coming under the influence of his own great solar angel on the higher cosmic mental plane. 107|00:13:05|440|00:13:09|500So the first four Hierarchies achieved liberation in the first solar system. 108|00:13:09|500|00:13:19|380What is liberation? Perhaps liberation is the freedom from the cosmic physical plane. 109|00:13:20|000|00:13:29|920Normally when we talk about liberation, we talk about achieving freedom from the lower three worlds, 110|00:13:30|100|00:13:36|820or especially from the eighteen lower sub-planes, but really our liberation concerns the fourth initiation 111|00:13:36|820|00:13:41|720and liberation then from the dense physical body of the solar Logos. 112|00:13:42|320|00:13:52|800I think liberation for these other Hierarchies looks like liberation from the cosmic etheric physical plane, 113|00:13:53|920|00:14:03|760liberation from the solar system, the solar systemic expression of the solar Logos. 114|00:14:03|760|00:14:10|720He's still very much active within the body, astral body of the solar Logos, but not within his system per se. 115|00:14:11|560|00:14:18|980Their influence reached our Earth through the medium of the fifth Creative Hierarchy. 116|00:14:19|160|00:14:26|140Now is that a past tense, reached, or is it, or is it reaches? 117|00:14:27|780|00:14:29|980We'll have to check a book on that. 118|00:14:29|980|00:14:41|640Sometimes there are typos in this A.A.B. CD-ROM and they occur in strange places. 119|00:14:42|300|00:14:45|800They still do have influence; they are liberated, 120|00:14:46|380|00:14:52|620but remember that the fifth Creative Hierarchy is partially unmanifested, partially liberated apparently, 121|00:14:52|620|00:15:02|460and so has its place of focus on the highest of the cosmic etheric planes, i.e. the Logoic plane, 122|00:15:02|580|00:15:14|860and there is a way thereby where it can bring into the cosmic ethers that part of cosmic desire which the first four hierarchies represent. 123|00:15:16|080|00:15:18|860Now we're on page thirty-seven; boy, are we making progress! 124|00:15:19|860|00:15:32|9607. These are, therefore, related to the four rays which work as minor rays of Attribute under the great major third Ray of Active Intelligence. 125|00:15:34|060|00:15:48|080So I think he's talking about all five of the liberated, or almost liberated Creative Hierarchies. 126|00:15:48|080|00:15:59|880These, because we do have the first of the liberated Creative Hierarchies being ruled by the great third ray of active intelligence. 127|00:16:01|600|00:16:13|600Associating Pisces with active intelligence—well, Pisces is the ocean of matter, and matter is ruled by the intelligence aspect. 128|00:16:13|600|00:16:29|400So I think a great deal of what goes on within the substance of the cosmic physical plane is directed from this first Creative Hierarchy, 129|00:16:30|480|00:16:35|640the first unmanifested Creative Hierarchy. The ray is ray three, 130|00:16:35|640|00:16:44|720and one of the keynotes on the clockwise wheel for Pisces is “go forth into matter.” 131|00:16:45|320|00:16:50|200So the connection of matter-substance with Pisces is very strong, 132|00:16:50|480|00:16:58|080and probably also the passivity of matter is related to the passivity of Pisces. 133|00:16:58|080|00:17:13|620Perhaps this great third ray working through the first of the Creative Hierarchies is related to the substance of the previous solar system, 134|00:17:13|780|00:17:25|080which is ruled by the third ray, not the second, and therefore this Hierarchy is related to that which occurs within the dense physical body of the solar Logos, 135|00:17:25|080|00:17:28|460which is inherited from his previous solar system. 136|00:17:29|620|00:17:41|140So we're talking about the third, fourth, fifth, and sixth rays in relation to these liberated, or in one case almost liberated, Hierarchy. 137|00:17:42|480|00:17:46|440Pisces—okay, well this becomes interesting. 138|00:17:47|760|00:17:59|4208. Pisces is seen at the head of the list of zodiacal signs because it is governing the present great astrological world cycle of 25,000 years. 139|00:17:59|420|00:18:15|460soon to end, but at a time which cannot be determined by human astrological science, D.K. tells us. 140|00:18:15|460|00:18:25|960And then you kind of wonder whether we would move up within the Creative Hierarchies so that Aquarius, 141|00:18:26|420|00:18:36|520which is destined to govern the next 25,000-year cycle, would head twelve Creative Hierarchies. 142|00:18:36|520|00:18:43|520And we wonder what would happen to the lowest of the Creative Hierarchies, 143|00:18:45|060|00:18:59|880whether there would be an etherealization of matter in our solar system in such a way that the very lowest aspects of matter would disappear, 144|00:19:01|320|00:19:09|360although it does seem to me that the etheric nature of our solar system will not disappear, 145|00:19:10|160|00:19:17|340and probably that etheric nature will still be active in the next solar system. 146|00:19:17|640|00:19:25|160It doesn't seem quite reasonable that the astral plane will be the lowest plane in the next solar system. 147|00:19:25|820|00:19:34|780Could be, but I think something of the etheric physical nature will be transferred over into that system, 148|00:19:34|820|00:19:43|100especially since it will be ruled by Ray 1, and Ray 1 has to have a lower correspondence in the etheric physical nature, 149|00:19:43|200|00:19:45|220at least in the etheric part of it. 150|00:19:46|100|00:19:53|980In any case, it's very interesting that it heads the list—the Pisces hierarchy heads the list—because it's presently active. 151|00:19:54|980|00:20:09|660We are almost, however, at the end of that great age, and the implications from D.K. is that the 25,000-year Aquarian cycle will begin rather soon, 152|00:20:09|700|00:20:18|100and I think before we leave the 2,500-year Aquarian cycle, 153|00:20:18|960|00:20:25|560which we know, according to one of the D.K. letters, is beginning in the year 2117, 154|00:20:26|200|00:20:34|680at which point the vernal equinox will reach the 30th degree of Aquarius, however that may be measured. 155|00:20:35|680|00:20:45|160Okay, so, Pisces is still important, and even though we may fade out of the age of Pisces, 156|00:20:45|380|00:20:52|880and its influence may entirely disappear in the 21st century, as D.K. tells us, 157|00:20:53|400|00:21:02|220the 6th Ray influence disappearing a bit later, perhaps by the year 2130 or somewhere there, 158|00:21:02|220|00:21:14|440that even though that Piscean influence may disappear, there may be a bit of a hangover of the Pisces influence for some hundreds of years later, 159|00:21:14|440|00:21:19|480due to the fact that the 25,000 year Pisces cycle may not have expired. 160|00:21:19|480|00:21:33|620But certainly we are in the 5,000 year overlap period between the two great Platonic ages of Pisces and Aquarius. 161|00:21:34|440|00:21:41|580So this is a time of real mixture of energies and contention of energies between these two streams. 162|00:21:41|580|00:21:52|020We can feel it on the lesser 2,500 year cycle, as Pisces contends with the emerging Aquarius, 163|00:21:52|180|00:21:59|280perhaps ever since the time of Sir Francis Bacon, who was the archetypal Aquarian, 164|00:22:00|320|00:22:08|040as Master R, and had in his horoscope an Aquarius sun, an Aquarius ascendant, and Mercury rising in Aquarius. 165|00:22:08|040|00:22:21|700Very Aquarian, but we can feel it also in a much vaster sense, that 5,000 year period beginning when… 166|00:22:22|680|00:22:28|840Could it have been at the death of Krishna, at the beginning of one of the Kali Yugas? 167|00:22:28|840|00:22:35|260Could it have been almost 5,000 years ago, just about 5,000 years ago, 168|00:22:35|680|00:22:44|960when the Buddha, a great savior, took over the head of the spiritual hierarchy in that year, 169|00:22:45|740|00:22:49|880approximately the year 3000 BC? Could it have been then, or a little later? 170|00:22:52|860|00:23:03|520Our science cannot determine it, but the implication is that we are not far from the beginning of that 25,000 year Aquarian cycle, 171|00:23:03|700|00:23:14|280which, as I said, I believe, will occur during the 2,500 year impending Aquarian cycle, though I cannot prove it. 172|00:23:14|280|00:23:24|460That's another line of research, and I would have to have the Tibetan's words in front of me in order to reason with fair accuracy about it. 173|00:23:26|460|00:23:34|220This Pisces, It was also one of the dominant signs, influencing our planet at the time of individualisation 174|00:23:34|220|00:23:47|380when the human kingdom came into being. Now, usually, you hear of Leo, Gemini, Sagittarius, etc., as being dominant, 175|00:23:48|140|00:23:57|440but Pisces may have given a great impressionability, and the saviors, who are the solar Angels, 176|00:23:57|440|00:24:10|300may have been able to enter more powerfully when a saving sign Pisces, and a second-ray sign at that, was in potency. 177|00:24:10|440|00:24:20|460So we'll just have to accept what D.K. says here: it was one of the dominant signs, although this is not usually discussed in other contexts. 178|00:24:21|080|00:24:30|120It is basically related to the first or highest Creative Hierarchy Now is it really…that's the question. Can you extend these Creative Hierarchies? 179|00:24:30|220|00:24:40|040It would seem to me that you would have to, but I think we're talking here about our solar system at our present level of development, 180|00:24:40|040|00:24:51|520so it's the highest, first or highest Creative Hierarchy which D.K. mentions, but the probability of going beyond it on Jacob's ladder of universal development, 181|00:24:52|000|00:25:07|140I would say, is very good, though probably speculation doesn't do much for us, except that we are able to extrapolate using rays and signs, 182|00:25:07|140|00:25:11|640as we speculate about what these higher Creative Hierarchies might be. 183|00:25:12|460|00:25:18|860It is basically related to the first or highest Creative Hierarchy which is, in its turn, related to the third Ray of Active Intelligence. 184|00:25:18|940|00:25:34|700This we have been discussing. It was the product of the first solar system. so it emerged as it is due to development within the first solar system. 185|00:25:35|640|00:25:43|380He calls it the first solar system, but we have to remember it's the first of the major solar systems. 186|00:25:43|540|00:25:54|000The development of illumination through an awakened intelligence is the first goal of humanity. and this is the hierarchy which has priority. 187|00:25:54|640|00:26:06|940Let us see here what illumination has to do with the picture, because illumination, I think, is very connected with the Taurus hierarchy, 188|00:26:06|940|00:26:20|360but definitely on the third subplane of the cosmic astral plane, the factor of intelligence and illumination will be strong because it's such a mental position, 189|00:26:21|340|00:26:28|480and intelligence is found all the way through in terms of the rays that are ruling. 190|00:26:29|720|00:26:39|800So we achieve illumination by sensitivity to the higher energies which are expressing already in the world of light, 191|00:26:40|700|00:26:46|540and Pisces gives us the sensitivity to those higher dimensions. 192|00:26:46|540|00:27:00|820Pisces gives sensitivity to the dimensions wherein illumination already exists. 193|00:27:02|460|00:27:15|600All right, well you see, we can maybe say a few things, but there is extraordinary depth to what D.K. is talking about. 194|00:27:15|600|00:27:28|060Obviously, we as monads that are in the manifesting Creative Hierarchies are not really to be considered products of the first solar system. 195|00:27:29|040|00:27:43|440Here we would have to say that these liberated lives achieved individualization in the first solar system. 196|00:27:43|440|00:27:58|300But then, think of it: even some human beings who are the nomads wandering on the third and fourth ray into our solar system 197|00:27:58|300|00:28:05|280achieved individualization and some degree of self-conscious development in the first solar system. 198|00:28:06|160|00:28:13|580So the question of what it means by “the product of”—it could be individualization, could be that— 199|00:28:14|460|00:28:22|840certainly if the solar Angels were men in the first solar system, first major solar system, they achieved individualization there. 200|00:28:23|760|00:28:30|860The question is, did these higher hierarchies also achieve individualization there or possibly in earlier solar systems? 201|00:28:31|620|00:28:36|080All right, let's move on here to what D.K. continues to say. 202|00:28:37|400|00:28:43|6609. The fifth Creative Hierarchy (also numbered 8) is on the verge of liberation. 203|00:28:44|060|00:28:49|540This we have been discussing. It is peculiarly connected with the tenth Creative Hierarchy, 204|00:28:49|920|00:28:54|870which is the fifth of the manifested Hierarchies, and with the constellation Capricorn 205|00:28:54|870|00:29:07|030and with the human personality which veils and temporarily hides the Christ principle behind both form and mind. 206|00:29:08|090|00:29:23|870Well, think about this. The sign Cancer, which is veiling the Christ, is very much connected with the lunar vehicles of man, 207|00:29:23|870|00:29:28|770which these lunar vehicles comprise his personality. 208|00:29:29|930|00:29:33|930The sign Capricorn usually gives liberation from that personality, 209|00:29:33|950|00:29:46|890but at the same time there is a certain density of this sign, Capricorn, which leads to the sense of separative personality. 210|00:29:46|890|00:29:54|650The principle of separation can be very strong in the lower type of Capricorn because it rules concretion, 211|00:29:54|890|00:30:04|810and when you have concretion you don't have that flow between a unit through a subtle membrane connecting it to other units. 212|00:30:04|950|00:30:08|750You have isolation, solidification, concretion. 213|00:30:09|750|00:30:19|250So, I also explained that the fifth almost-liberated hierarchy is ruled by Neptune, 214|00:30:20|370|00:30:29|390and the fifth or tenth hierarchy, which is manifested, is ruled by Venus, and Neptune is the higher octave. 215|00:30:30|150|00:30:40|090So, this human personality is very much involved with the Capricorn-Cancer, Capricorn polarity, 216|00:30:40|990|00:30:58|790and I'm trying to think about—yeah, that picture tabulation in Esoteric Psychology, Esoteric Astrology, page 50— 217|00:30:58|790|00:31:07|630and we see that the Cancer-Capricorn is mediated through Saturn, 218|00:31:08|930|00:31:14|910and is bringing the energies of Sirius, which are providing the solar angels, 219|00:31:16|170|00:31:25|110which make it possible for man to individualize and begin to develop his personality consciousness 220|00:31:25|110|00:31:31|890based upon that consciousness developing around the spark of mind. 221|00:31:32|990|00:31:43|530So, we do see here definitely a connection with individualization and the tenth Creative Hierarchy, 222|00:31:43|670|00:31:50|570and with the constellations Cancer and Capricorn contributing to that sense of distinctness. 223|00:31:50|570|00:31:57|690It is peculiarly connected with the tenth Creative Hierarchy, with the constellation Capricorn the two gates, 224|00:31:58|970|00:32:07|430Cancer-Capricorn, and with the human personality which veils and temporarily hides temporarily hides, the Christ principle 225|00:32:07|430|00:32:15|090behind both form and mind. So, Capricorn and Cancer are giving us form and mind, 226|00:32:15|090|00:32:25|990and the solar Angels have given us mind, so at least one part of this Hierarchy is related to the veil, 227|00:32:26|810|00:32:34|170and another part to the liberating factor to the Christ principle which thins the veil 228|00:32:34|170|00:32:37|230and brings about release from form and mind. 229|00:32:37|930|00:32:42|530Eight is, under some numerical systems, regarded as the number of the Christ. 230|00:32:42|530|00:32:47|550It would be great to know what those numerical systems actually were. 231|00:32:52|130|00:33:07|410Eight is also a number of the infernal forces, and is connected with an eighth sphere idea, 232|00:33:07|410|00:33:10|050which can be described in different ways. 233|00:33:10|510|00:33:17|990Blavatsky described it as a kind of a dustbin or a dust bowl into which all refuse was being swept 234|00:33:17|990|00:33:23|350as this dustbin swept along behind the Earth. 235|00:33:23|870|00:33:32|350I wonder how literal that really is, but it has an amazingly graphic presentation. 236|00:33:32|350|00:33:40|670But from another perspective, it's about the eighth sphere, and the concrete mind which definitely hides 237|00:33:40|670|00:33:47|410behind form and mind, the Christ principle, can be considered a kind of eighth sphere. 238|00:33:48|530|00:33:55|290And the development of an independent eighth sphere, or the creation of a concrete mind of immense power 239|00:33:55|290|00:34:01|150which is impervious to the liberating influence of the higher part of this fifth Creative Hierarchy, 240|00:34:01|150|00:34:07|830is a great tragedy which can befall a human being as he veers off on the left-hand path. 241|00:34:07|830|00:34:10|510and becomes a member of the Black Lodge. 242|00:34:10|710|00:34:15|370So eight is a Christ number, yes, and will relate in that case to the Solar Angels, 243|00:34:15|370|00:34:24|290but eight is also an infernal number and can relate to the dregs and to the lower part of Scorpio, 244|00:34:24|290|00:34:33|030and to the concrete mind as the eighth sphere, blocking all possibility of passing along the Sirian line of initiation 245|00:34:33|030|00:34:39|850and making contact with the eighth creative hierarchy of triads. 246|00:34:40|590|00:34:44|750And as D.K. will tell us, the man refuses to become a Christ. 247|00:34:44|930|00:34:49|050So we need to look at things. There's no number which is high or low. 248|00:34:50|110|00:34:56|170The number of love, wisdom and unity in relationship, for instance, is also the number two, the number of duality. 249|00:34:56|310|00:34:58|850We can look at it from high, from low. 250|00:34:59|010|00:35:09|450The number of absolute identification, the number one, can be considered a number of complete unitary isolation and egoism 251|00:35:10|390|00:35:18|910in which the man becomes untouchable, as is the case on the first ray and sometimes the fifth, D.K. tells us. 252|00:35:20|030|00:35:29|190So we're going to do more with this fifth Creative Hierarchy because it is so pivotal to our development 253|00:35:31|450|00:35:39|970as true human beings and eventually as angelic beings and eventually as Solar Angels. 254|00:35:40|970|00:35:48|130We go on about The Greater Builder, Greater Builders and Lesser Builders, 255|00:35:48|190|00:35:54|310remembering that we are not talking necessarily about unconscious builders, 256|00:35:55|730|00:36:03|210or those who are self-conscious and therefore greater. We're talking about the builders who work according to the archetypes 257|00:36:03|210|00:36:09|850found upon the cosmic etheric planes and who build in the cosmic ethers, 258|00:36:09|850|00:36:20|630those forms which must precipitate as the plan-derived forms within the dense physical body of the Solar Logos. 259|00:36:21|250|00:36:27|63010. The Greater Builders and the Lesser Builders, of Hierarchy two and three, working on the second and third planes of our solar system, 260|00:36:27|990|00:36:37|110have their activities reflected in the work of the Lunar Lords and the elemental lives. and let's see how that might work out. 261|00:36:39|850|00:36:49|250Here are the Greater Builders and here are the Lesser Builders, and perhaps it works in this way, 262|00:36:50|210|00:36:53|950that there is a kind of reflection which is a correspondence, not an inversion, 263|00:36:54|770|00:37:04|270and the divine Builders will be connected. These Greater Builders connected with the Lunar Lords, 264|00:37:04|270|00:37:12|570the number six and two correlating, those rays correlating, and the Lesser Builders who are within the body of Brahma, 265|00:37:13|430|00:37:19|950cosmically considered, well, systemically considered, will be reflected in the elemental lives, 266|00:37:20|390|00:37:24|070the basic material lives, because we have now entered the realm of matter. 267|00:37:24|950|00:37:29|970This is still the realm of quality, divine Builders, reflected in the Lunar Lords. 268|00:37:29|970|00:37:36|390But once we touch the Lesser Builders, we have entered our systemic Brahma. We're in the realm of matter, 269|00:37:36|730|00:37:42|750and that is reflected in the lowest of the Creative Hierarchies, the elemental lives. 270|00:37:43|330|00:37:51|690Even the Lunar Lords can be considered elementals, but the tiny elemental lives, these come in a different category, 271|00:37:51|690|00:38:00|230and the vehicle of a Lunar Lord is comprised of many tiny elemental lives, 272|00:38:00|530|00:38:06|350so we have to be cautious in the way the word “elemental” is used, 273|00:38:06|350|00:38:15|670because sometimes it can mean quite a sizable vehicle: mental elemental, personality elemental, astral elemental, physical elemental, 274|00:38:15|670|00:38:22|250but sometimes it can mean the tiniest of lives which are the constituents of matter. 275|00:38:23|070|00:38:32|630Maybe the tiniest elemental life of all is found in a way in the matter of the Logoic plane, 276|00:38:32|930|00:38:40|430and would be called in Leadbeater's terms a bubble, a bubble in the koilon. 277|00:38:41|410|00:38:44|730Let's see where we are here. Well, okay, we're moving along. 278|00:38:46|410|00:38:51|650So the Greater builders and the Lesser builders working on the second and third sub-planes of our solar system, 279|00:38:52|870|00:39:00|530I suppose these are deva Hierarchies, although one type is the prototype of the monads, 280|00:39:00|870|00:39:09|130so maybe this third Hierarchy, third manifesting Hierarchy, is a deva Hierarchy. I believe so, 281|00:39:09|130|00:39:17|450but can we say the same of the Greater Builders on the monadic plane who are the prototypes of the monads, 282|00:39:17|590|00:39:18|730the monads being man? 283|00:39:20|130|00:39:25|870There's much yet to be clarified in this question of what is a deva Hierarchy 284|00:39:26|470|00:39:31|010and what is a man-like Hierarchy. 285|00:39:32|630|00:39:37|050So these are reflected in the work of the Lunar Lords and the elemental lives going on. 286|00:39:37|050|00:39:52|13011. You will note that the human Hierarchy (on chart 9-IV-4) that's the way it looks, it's chart 9-IV-4, 287|00:39:52|810|00:40:00|750the human Hierarchy, not necessarily the human kingdom because there are many kingdoms in the same hierarchy. 288|00:40:00|750|00:40:08|350You could even wonder from some perspectives whether the mineral, vegetable, animal kingdoms as well as the human 289|00:40:08|350|00:40:15|810are found in the fourth creative hierarchy. Certainly the kingdom of souls is found there, 290|00:40:15|810|00:40:18|570and maybe even the kingdom of planetary lives. 291|00:40:19|150|00:40:25|450This is really a different way of looking at the kingdoms as if they all have, 292|00:40:25|450|00:40:36|690are based upon a monadic focus on the monadic plane of the cosmic physical plane. 293|00:40:38|150|00:40:46|490You will note that the human Hierarchy (on chart 9-IV-4) is assigned no particular element as it has to fuse and synthesise them all. 294|00:40:46|610|00:40:50|750So we are working with the four elements; we are working on the cross. 295|00:40:52|210|00:41:00|050The four elements present to us one of our crosses, 296|00:41:01|390|00:41:11|310and we can see that in any one of the astrological triplicities we will have fire, water, air and earth. 297|00:41:11|310|00:41:17|730Well, let's take a look at the cardinal group, or quaternaries rather. 298|00:41:18|610|00:41:29|470We have Aries: fire, square to Cancer: water, square to Libra: air, square to Capricorn: earth. 299|00:41:29|850|00:41:38|750So working with the elements presents us with a great challenge because they are located in a way square to each other 300|00:41:38|750|00:41:43|930and have to be synthesized, reconciled. 301|00:41:44|050|00:41:53|370Now if you have a cross, let's—a cross like this, we have to go to the center of the cross to find the point of reconciliation 302|00:41:53|370|00:41:59|770and lift that center into the number five before it becomes a point of synthesis. 303|00:42:01|270|00:42:07|070So as we are tested, we are tested on varieties of the cross, 304|00:42:08|330|00:42:22|050and this factor of fusing the elements in a great conflicted situation is part of the great tests of initiation under Scorpio. This is part of the great tests of initiation under Scorpio. 305|00:42:22|050|00:42:27|030We remember that under Scorpio the first three initiations minimally occur, 306|00:42:27|430|00:42:40|090and if Scorpio is active at the fourth initiation of death, then its peculiar testing potency is no longer what it was for the first three initiations. 307|00:42:40|750|00:42:44|890It makes sense because Scorpio is the major fourth-race sign, at least at this time, 308|00:42:44|890|00:42:51|870and so naturally Scorpio would be related to the cross. Scorpio related to the cross, 309|00:42:53|530|00:43:01|770and to all of our testing on various crosses. We do have various crosses and we are tested on them. 310|00:43:02|450|00:43:11|250We have the cross of experience, the common or Mutable Cross, the elements of which in that quaternary are all in square or opposed to each other. 311|00:43:11|250|00:43:21|490We have the Fixed Cross of the soul, which gives us our awakening as a soul and our liberation as a soul from matter, 312|00:43:21|490|00:43:26|790and we have the Cardinal Cross, also a great square and opposition configuration, 313|00:43:27|750|00:43:35|070giving us higher planetary, systemic and even cosmic development. 314|00:43:35|810|00:43:44|150So we do see that we, the human kingdom, have to rise above the cross into the number five in a sense, 315|00:43:44|630|00:43:53|930into the kingdom of souls, into the sign Leo, which is the most human of all the signs, into the way Leo represents mastership. 316|00:43:55|030|00:44:03|270We have to master the elements; we're crucified on the cross, we rise above it, 317|00:44:03|810|00:44:08|510perhaps the very point of synthesis at the center of the cross in a way represents the fourth initiation, 318|00:44:09|030|00:44:14|870and it spirals up to the pyramid, which is one of the great symbols of the fifth initiation. 319|00:44:17|090|00:44:18|210Number twelve. 320|00:44:21|010|00:44:25|63012. This chart is drawn up in relation only to the fourth Creative Hierarchy, the human. 321|00:44:25|750|00:44:28|930Now this is important. It's a question I have been asking: the human. 322|00:44:29|690|00:44:37|710It is not drawn in relation to the other planetary manifestations. We wonder what that would be. 323|00:44:38|710|00:44:45|270This is telling us something about how all of these creative hierarchies are working in relation to human development, 324|00:44:46|170|00:44:58|830but it still may relate to humanity as found on other planets. 325|00:45:00|670|00:45:09|050So even though the perspective is not that of the development of any of these other creative hierarchies, 326|00:45:09|230|00:45:24|050and man occupies a central position here, this is not to say that the charts that are drawn up have only to do with the manifestation on our planet, 327|00:45:24|050|00:45:30|750but though I think somehow it has particular relevance to manifestation, human manifestation on our planet. 328|00:45:31|550|00:45:37|610After all, it's the only planet on which we really understand anything about human manifestation, 329|00:45:37|850|00:45:47|130even though we are told there are humanities that have developed on Venus and Mercury and Vulcan and the Earth. 330|00:45:49|090|00:45:55|510He talks about the present humanity on Vulcan, two-fifths of which have achieved, 331|00:45:55|670|00:45:59|170when only one-fifth of our humanity has achieved, 332|00:45:59|570|00:46:10|090and seems to point to Venus as a field in which all the human units have achieved and possibly become Buddhic. 333|00:46:10|930|00:46:18|070All right. Now, wow, we have made it from page 36 to 38. We are really speeding along here. 334|00:46:19|230|00:46:26|490(The chart has been compiled from the very limited stock of knowledge that has thus far been revealed on the subject, 335|00:46:26|590|00:46:32|370and it is as correct as possible under the circumstances.) Well, this certainly answers my question, doesn't it? 336|00:46:33|370|00:46:42|290This is not from D.K.'s direct dictation, but from that which has been available, 337|00:46:42|630|00:46:48|550and therefore there are probably some holes in this chart, 338|00:46:52|470|00:47:01|490and incompleteness and methods of describing things which are perhaps not pristine, 339|00:47:01|850|00:47:05|810and some possible lines of confusion or provocation. 340|00:47:06|090|00:47:14|150You know, when I see on this chart that the solar angel is connected directly with the human hierarchy, 341|00:47:15|570|00:47:21|970immediately we want to know what it is. Why does he describe not the human, 342|00:47:22|770|00:47:26|810but solar angels, Agnishvattas, and their buddhic connection? 343|00:47:27|810|00:47:39|750That is somewhat mysterious. We do have to consider whether the solar angels achieved more than a buddhic status 344|00:47:40|370|00:47:47|350in the last solar system. After all, even if there were five planes, they are initiates of all degrees. 345|00:47:47|610|00:47:54|910That would be at least… what was the highest initiation achievable in the last solar system? 346|00:47:55|170|00:48:01|270I know somewhere D.K. talks about it. Was it initiation number four? Possibly, I think so. 347|00:48:02|530|00:48:09|830But the solar angels, those who were men in the previous solar system, had to pass on to the cosmic astral plane 348|00:48:09|830|00:48:16|870in order to go to Sirius, in order to be breathed out again as men who had become solar angels. 349|00:48:19|390|00:48:28|470So their monad seems to have had to focus on the cosmic astral plane. 350|00:48:29|230|00:48:36|390But what is their main field of expression now on the cosmic physical plane? 351|00:48:36|530|00:48:40|510Certainly sacrificially it's on the higher mental plane, yes. 352|00:48:41|070|00:48:45|530But what is their field of non-sacrificial expression? 353|00:48:45|630|00:48:51|410Where do they ordinarily and in the economy of our solar system express? 354|00:48:51|530|00:48:57|950Is it simply the buddhic plane, or did they not move beyond that in the previous solar system, 355|00:48:57|950|00:49:02|750or have they returned to the buddhic plane also sacrificially? 356|00:49:03|770|00:49:07|790See, because the human monads are to express on the buddhic plane, 357|00:49:08|330|00:49:13|970and yet the solar angelic monads are much higher. Are they too to express on the buddhic plane? 358|00:49:15|970|00:49:19|130The question always is what is a true solar angel? 359|00:49:19|650|00:49:24|870And in a way, are all of these beings solar angels of different categories? 360|00:49:25|730|00:49:29|710These things are not easy to answer. We can't answer them. 361|00:49:29|830|00:49:36|290D.K. says we will not solve the mystery of the fifth grade of hierarchy. 362|00:49:36|510|00:49:38|650We will not solve the mystery of the solar angels. 363|00:49:39|270|00:49:43|270But what I try to do here is offer up lines of connection and speculation 364|00:49:43|890|00:49:49|950which may put a few arcs of light into the field which were not there before. 365|00:49:49|950|00:49:55|230And maybe those arcs of light will lead to others, and eventually to a solution 366|00:49:55|470|00:49:59|550when we have developed a higher consciousness. 367|00:50:02|910|00:50:05|290So anyway, the charts are limited. 368|00:50:06|310|00:50:11|290Each of the seven Hierarchies of Beings, these are the manifested ones found within the Twelve, 369|00:50:11|370|00:50:15|190Who are the Builders or the Attractive Agents are (in their degree) intermediaries; 370|00:50:15|790|00:50:23|270In other words, they are monads with attractive power that attract different types of matter and form around them, 371|00:50:23|370|00:50:26|610are in their degree intermediaries. 372|00:50:27|690|00:50:38|130So we can see Creative Hierarchies working through lesser Creative Hierarchies, 373|00:50:38|130|00:50:48|190and aspiring to participate in the life of greater Creative Hierarchies. 374|00:50:48|910|00:50:55|550all embody one of the types of force emanating from the seven constellations. 375|00:50:56|130|00:51:01|650The term constellations is there, and I think not signs per se. 376|00:51:02|210|00:51:12|490And the constellations involved here are Leo through Aquarius. 377|00:51:13|830|00:51:15|130Leo through Aquarius. 378|00:51:16|510|00:51:25|350So interestingly enough, Leo is the sign where individualisation importantly occurs, 379|00:51:26|170|00:51:32|610the creating of a central focus, and Aquarius is a final sign of the distribution, 380|00:51:32|830|00:51:37|810the wide universalisation or distribution of that which has been individualised. 381|00:51:38|110|00:51:44|490It finds its place within the group, ruled by Aquarius. 382|00:51:45|070|00:51:49|250So they have intermediary work, they have intermediary work. 383|00:51:49|350|00:51:52|750We're not going to have time to say too much about it. 384|00:51:52|750|00:51:55|890Their intermediary work, therefore, is dual: 385|00:51:56|790|00:51:57|330Let's see. 386|00:51:58|090|00:52:03|0101. They are the mediators between Spirit and matter. 387|00:52:03|250|00:52:10|250Now does that mean that the monads per se are the mediators because all the Creative Hierarchies are mediators, 388|00:52:10|450|00:52:14|270or are we looking at the monads plus the form creating the being? 389|00:52:14|270|00:52:29|370And do we look at Spirit as related to life expression on the higher planes and matter as related to life expression on the cosmic physical plane? 390|00:52:29|890|00:52:33|310In any case, they are mediators between the Spirit and matter. 391|00:52:33|830|00:52:36|490Certainly the solar Angels are that. 392|00:52:36|970|00:52:38|390Very definitely so. 393|00:52:38|890|00:52:43|310They occupy that kind of function for man. 394|00:52:43|310|00:52:50|810They stand between his monadic triadic nature and his material nature, 395|00:52:50|810|00:52:59|230and maybe all of the Hierarchies in some ways are mediating between that which for them is Spirit 396|00:52:59|230|00:53:03|190and that which is lower than them, than they are as matter. 397|00:53:04|550|00:53:12|270And these Hierarchies as well are 2. They are the transmitters of force from sources extraneous to the solar system 398|00:53:12|270|00:53:16|430to forms within the solar system. 399|00:53:17|530|00:53:22|230The Creative Hierarchies are actually building the forms within the solar system. 400|00:53:22|890|00:53:36|950They are building these forms within the solar system and convey zodiacal energy to these forms. 401|00:53:36|950|00:53:50|050Because the constellations of the zodiac are extraneous to the solar system. 402|00:53:51|130|00:53:57|850And also there are ray energies coming from resources which these Hierarchies receive. 403|00:53:57|850|00:54:04|350I mean, you know, if a human being of the third initiation can already begin receiving from the Great Bear, 404|00:54:05|050|00:54:13|930from Pleiades and Sirius, then certainly these higher Hierarchies can be receiving from cosmic sources. 405|00:54:14|710|00:54:18|870So they are mediating between Spirit and matter in general, 406|00:54:19|750|00:54:27|130though the question is: what is Spirit and what is matter for any of these Hierarchies? 407|00:54:27|130|00:54:34|170I mean spirit for man, as far as we are concerned in his monadic nature, is still occurring on the cosmic physical plane. 408|00:54:36|290|00:54:43|010But spirit for a solar Angel, let us say, is probably on the cosmic astral plane. 409|00:54:43|190|00:54:50|570Even though spirit is all equivalent, spirit is spirit, still the manifestation of the monad is still involved 410|00:54:51|130|00:54:54|490with different kinds of substances. 411|00:54:55|950|00:55:01|890Does substance exist on the cosmic astral plane? It has sometimes been asked. 412|00:55:02|350|00:55:05|330D.K. says, “Does matter exist on the cosmic astral plane?” 413|00:55:06|270|00:55:16|790But we have to say yes in a way, because notice that the third Creative Hierarchy is dealing with intelligent substance. 414|00:55:17|690|00:55:21|870So that is substance on the cosmic astral plane. 415|00:55:21|870|00:55:28|230As a matter of fact, what does it mean that all the cosmic planes may or may not be substantial? 416|00:55:28|370|00:55:32|230That is probably way beyond our ability to grasp. 417|00:55:32|890|00:55:38|550Can they be substantial without being particulate or made of units of matter? 418|00:55:38|610|00:55:45|770Well, that often leads to another direction which it probably is not a good idea to pursue at this time. 419|00:55:47|450|00:55:55|370Although in my book, “Infinitization of Selfhood,” I think I made some wild pursuits of such subjects. 420|00:55:57|030|00:56:04|630Each of these groups of beings is likewise septenary in nature, in terms of form at least, maybe ninefold in terms of consciousness. 421|00:56:05|430|00:56:11|630and the forty-nine fires of Brahma are the lowest manifestation of their fiery nature. 1|00:00:12|160|00:00:19|540Each group also may be regarded as “fallen” in the cosmic sense, because involved in the building process, 423|00:56:17|990|00:56:24|590or the occupiers of forms of some degree of density or another. on the cosmic physical plane. 424|00:56:25|310|00:56:26|310On the cosmic physical plane. 425|00:56:26|430|00:56:38|910Well, to tell you what, we are at the point now where we have to end our Esoteric Astrology Adventure Number Seventeen. 426|00:56:39|850|00:56:46|870And so this is the end of EAA Seventeen; we've made it to page thirty-eight. 427|00:56:48|310|00:56:57|030Well, I have to say maybe the tortoise will win the race. This is the twenty-ninth of June, 2011. 428|00:56:57|990|00:57:05|310And now together we will use and say The Great Invocation. 429|00:57:06|670|00:57:08|470Well, all they have to do is find it, right? 430|00:57:09|630|00:57:18|830Right, so we'll just say, “From the point of light,” light, and that should give it to us. 431|00:57:19|650|00:57:20|990No, it doesn't. 432|00:57:22|270|00:57:23|550We'll do it a different way. 433|00:57:24|590|00:57:25|890We'll do it a different way. 434|00:57:31|250|00:57:33|130Alright, that'll do it. 435|00:57:33|780|00:57:40|550And we together use the great mantrum of light and power, 436|00:57:42|110|00:57:49|010which is our greatest instrument for contributing to the reappearance of the Christ. 437|00:57:55|430|00:57:56|290Om. 438|00:57:57|610|00:57:58|370Om. 439|00:58:00|490|00:58:10|490From the point of light within the mind of God, let light stream forth into the minds of men. Let light descend on earth. 440|00:58:13|350|00:58:23|590From the point of love within the heart of God, let love stream forth into the hearts of men. May Christ return to earth. 441|00:58:25|730|00:58:36|290From the center where the will of God is known, let purpose guide the little wills of men—the purpose which the masters know and serve. 442|00:58:38|190|00:58:48|590From the center which we call the race of men, let the plan of love and light work out, and may it seal the door where evil dwells. 443|00:58:49|590|00:58:55|170Let light and love and power restore the plan on earth. 444|00:59:02|330|00:59:03|730Om. 445|00:59:10|330|00:59:11|730Om. 446|00:59:40|290|00:59:41|690Om. 447|00:59:41|690|00:59:44|010That's the Astrology Adventure number 18. 448|00:59:45|870|00:59:49|390At the earliest time that I can bring it to us. 449|00:59:50|530|00:59:52|790And for now, farewell.