1|00:00:05|160|00:00:16|200Well friends, I really did it. We have two marvelous audio recordings for Esoteric 2|00:00:16|200|00:00:26|500Astrology adventure number 14. Somehow I did not press “show my screen.” Well okay, 3|00:00:26|500|00:00:35|060what this means is that I have to do again what I have just done and however 4|00:00:35|060|00:00:44|300I will almost never repeat myself so perhaps there is some value in the audio 5|00:00:44|300|00:00:52|280of number 14 that I've just completed and coming discussion. This time the 6|00:00:52|280|00:00:57|680screen is definitely on. Yes, I'm showing the screen and I'll never do that one again, right? 7|00:00:58|160|00:01:06|420Never say never. We began by saying that there were some great remote sources 8|00:01:06|420|00:01:13|420which were affecting our solar system and that these were the Great Bear, the 9|00:01:13|420|00:01:21|160Pleiades and Sirius, the so-called intimate constellations as well as the 10|00:01:21|160|00:01:30|020seven solar systems. Whether the seven solar systems are simply solar Logoi in 11|00:01:30|020|00:01:35|460a cosmic Logos called the seven solar systems of which ours is one, sometimes 12|00:01:35|460|00:01:42|960called the Sirian system, or whether these seven solar systems are really 13|00:01:42|960|00:01:49|720great constellational sources, the major chakras of the one about whom naught 14|00:01:49|720|00:01:57|900may be said, but in any case they do reach into our solar system and the 15|00:01:57|900|00:02:08|300human being cannot… the human being cannot register them. The analogy given is that 16|00:02:08|300|00:02:16|480for a human being to register these impacts would be equivalent to a tiny 17|00:02:16|480|00:02:25|020cell or atom in our little finger registering consciously the effect of a 18|00:02:25|020|00:02:34|220high moment of meditation that we may have. So perhaps we can see something of 19|00:02:34|220|00:02:41|100the proportion involved here. Even the soul cannot register these great impacts. 20|00:02:41|100|00:02:49|000It has to be the spirit itself and man has to be coming into the third 21|00:02:49|000|00:02:57|320initiation and beyond in order for this type of registration simply to begin. He 22|00:02:57|320|00:03:00|760tells us that there are all these energies… is a vast system of 23|00:03:00|760|00:03:08|120interlocking energies. Our little systemic etheric body is part of the 24|00:03:08|120|00:03:14|020etheric body of a cosmic Logos. We cannot really trace these things but we can 25|00:03:14|020|00:03:19|880have some idea about them and when the Antahkarana is built sufficiently to 26|00:03:19|880|00:03:28|520warrant the idea that we are third-degree initiates, some slight 27|00:03:28|520|00:03:35|300impression from these sources will begin. D.K. wants to consider the major forces 28|00:03:35|300|00:03:44|320involved here. This will suffice for our day and generation and increasingly we 29|00:03:44|320|00:03:52|020will become aware. Well that's where I ended number 13 and began the ill-fated 30|00:03:52|020|00:03:59|940voyage blind on number 14, but I can see already that I'm not going to be saying 31|00:03:59|940|00:04:07|840the same thing, so you know perhaps it will be useful to listen to number 14 32|00:04:07|840|00:04:17|760blind as well as number 14 with visuals. It might be useful here to comment in a wide and general way, and with many necessary reservations, upon the broad sweep of some of these responses: EA, p.30 So he's commenting in a broad way, with a 33|00:04:17|760|00:04:24|400great sweep. He always has reservations because there are always particulars 34|00:04:24|400|00:04:32|620which do not fit within the generality. I remember once he was discussing, “There 35|00:04:32|620|00:04:36|880are three major types of second-ray souls, of course with many exceptions.” 36|00:04:37|660|00:04:42|700Okay well, it may help for us to know It might be useful here to comment in a wide and general way, and with many necessary reservations, upon the broad sweep of some of these responses:that there is principally the wisdom 37|00:04:42|700|00:04:48|480type, the pure love type and the meticulous entirety type but there are 38|00:04:48|480|00:04:58|320many exceptions. So he is certainly in that position to see and understand what 39|00:04:58|320|00:05:04|380some of these are. So here is the broad sweep of what different types of human 40|00:05:04|380|00:05:12|180beings respond to: 1. Undeveloped humanity is primarily conditioned in its life and 41|00:05:12|180|00:05:17|560circumstance by the influence of the lesser zodiac and thus by the position 42|00:05:17|560|00:05:23|800of the planets in the twelve houses. EA, p.30 It's interesting to call the arrangement of 43|00:05:23|800|00:05:32|140the 12 houses a kind of zodiac. It's kind of a circumstantial experiential zodiac, 44|00:05:32|140|00:05:42|760a zodiac of influences within the realm of dense form, dense form considered to 45|00:05:42|760|00:05:53|500be within the dense physical body of the solar Logos. So the early man, undeveloped 46|00:05:53|500|00:05:58|700humanity, solar plexus humanity living below the diaphragm is responding 47|00:05:58|700|00:06:03|560primarily and automatically to the influence of the planets in the houses, 48|00:06:03|560|00:06:10|000and we do too of course, but he'll explain that in a short while here. 49|00:06:10|880|00:06:19|840I've done a lot of these today, so some of them with futility. It made me 50|00:06:19|840|00:06:27|540necessary after all to send you number 11 and 12 truncated, 12 an hour and 49 51|00:06:27|540|00:06:34|360minutes of it at a rather large file which Mac readers, Mac users cannot use, 52|00:06:34|360|00:06:39|620but let us see. We're working on it now. 2. Average intelligent humanity and those 53|00:06:39|620|00:06:46|620nearing the Path of Discipleship and upon the Probationary Path respond consciously to EA, p.30 so this is a 54|00:06:46|620|00:06:52|360category of humanity existing after millions of years of evolution, remember 55|00:06:52|360|00:06:56|700This kind of a ballpark figure there, that under normal circumstances it will 56|00:06:56|700|00:07:03|030take 25 million years to make the master from the time of individualization. 57|00:07:03|030|00:07:10|270That may be a preposterous figure, but I think it bears some examination given 58|00:07:10|270|00:07:15|730the fact that 21 million years of past for most of humanity and they are where 59|00:07:15|730|00:07:22|690they are, perhaps some millions of years away from becoming a true master. So 60|00:07:22|690|00:07:27|510average intelligent humanity - they have some grip on the concrete mind, there's 61|00:07:27|510|00:07:31|090some aspiration here on the probationary path beginning to discipline themselves 62|00:07:31|090|00:07:39|170on the path of discipleship. They are influenced by what? Let us see, by a. The 63|00:07:39|170|00:07:44|970planets, affecting their personalities. EA, p.31 Indeed, we all have personalities and at 64|00:07:44|970|00:07:50|070least, at least until the fourth initiation is taken, and then even then 65|00:07:50|070|00:07:59|030the spiritual triad is considered a personality of the monad. So these 66|00:07:59|030|00:08:05|210planets are still in play even for the intelligent and those upon the path of 67|00:08:05|210|00:08:11|230probation, and they will be actually in play for initiates as well. There are 68|00:08:11|230|00:08:17|490ways in which the planets rule the fifth initiation, the fourth initiation, maybe 69|00:08:17|490|00:08:25|910beyond. So we cannot simply say that planetary influence represents only the 70|00:08:25|910|00:08:30|270lower stages of development, but as D.K. told us, it's the energies passing 71|00:08:30|270|00:08:35|670through the planets - the Ray energies and other energies which are influential 72|00:08:35|670|00:08:44|430in these higher degrees, along with the energy of the planet itself. So these 73|00:08:44|430|00:08:54|530intelligent people are affected by the planets - yes, they are. 74|00:08:54|530|00:09:03|570They are affected by b. The Sun sign, as indicating life trends which are 75|00:09:03|570|00:09:08|530already established and which constitute the line of least resistance. EA, p.31 and I want 76|00:09:08|530|00:09:13|130to say the conscious line of least resistance. There are lines of least 77|00:09:13|130|00:09:18|850resistance about which we would be shocked because we have no idea that we 78|00:09:18|850|00:09:25|390are actually carrying out these types of activities - they are unconscious to us. 79|00:09:25|390|00:09:32|170But as we are born in the sign that we leave, at least that in which we leave 80|00:09:32|170|00:09:40|050life or leave form in the lower three worlds, as we are born in the same month - 81|00:09:40|050|00:09:44|190as he says, of the same sign of the zodiac as the sign of the zodiac in 82|00:09:44|190|00:09:50|750which we departed from the physical plane - we can see that there is a kind of 83|00:09:50|750|00:09:56|290developmental trend that moves with the Sun. In other words, there's a 84|00:09:56|290|00:10:02|110constructiveness that operates in relation to the Sun. So whatever we had 85|00:10:02|110|00:10:09|130built when we departed the physical plane is continued by the Sun's position. 86|00:10:09|130|00:10:16|610So it represents this constructive building of the personality and the 87|00:10:16|610|00:10:22|330character, and it is a line of least conscious resistance. In other words, we 88|00:10:22|330|00:10:28|450know what we like, we know what seems easiest to us, we know what we're - how we 89|00:10:28|450|00:10:34|290seem to fit with certain types of activities and circumstances. That is a 90|00:10:34|290|00:10:39|810conscious sense of the line of least resistance. Oftentimes when we follow a 91|00:10:39|810|00:10:46|690rising sign, we have to go against that line of least resistance, and so 92|00:10:46|690|00:10:52|050intelligent human beings, probationers and disciples, also respond to c. The rising 93|00:10:52|050|00:10:56|230sign in a small measure. EA, p.31 You would think that as disciples they 94|00:10:56|230|00:11:03|130would respond in a larger measure to the rising sign. And let us remember that 95|00:11:04|610|00:11:10|550all human beings respond to the rising sign. It has a lot to do with the 96|00:11:10|550|00:11:16|210physical nature, and it is very much involved in what is called Hyleg - 97|00:11:16|210|00:11:23|190H-Y-L-E-G - or health indications in the astrological chart. And in a way it does 98|00:11:23|190|00:11:29|290rule the dense physical body, so there's a whole range of possible expression of 99|00:11:29|290|00:11:37|810rising sign. But from its higher and spiritual perspective, the intelligent 100|00:11:37|810|00:11:43|990person, the aspirant, the disciple are responding to it in a spiritual way and 101|00:11:43|990|00:11:50|330in small measure, perhaps compared to what the higher disciple can elicit 102|00:11:50|330|00:11:55|610from the rising sign. This rising sign, and this is very interesting, This indicates 103|00:11:55|610|00:12:03|390the life goal for that particular life cycle or else over a period of seven 104|00:12:03|390|00:12:07|730lives. EA, p.31 Now I used to think, well, it's either one life or seven, or at least, you 105|00:12:07|730|00:12:11|310know, interpreting superficially, you would say it operates for one life or 106|00:12:11|310|00:12:17|990for seven lives. But the phrase “over a period of” shows that this rising sign 107|00:12:17|990|00:12:26|050can be kept for, let us say, a maximum of seven lives, but also for one life, two 108|00:12:26|050|00:12:35|830life, three, four, five, six, and so forth. We may have a repeated rising sign for a 109|00:12:35|830|00:12:41|850number of lives running, and I suppose this will be in the care of the solar 110|00:12:41|850|00:12:47|290Angel. Seeing what has to be built, we are told that the artist oftentimes has the 111|00:12:47|290|00:12:53|570same personality ray. What type of human being would sustain a rising sign for a 112|00:12:53|570|00:13:00|050number of lives? So this rising sign, responded to in small measure by the— 113|00:13:00|050|00:13:05|950even by the disciple, I guess—it's hard to do, indicates the life goal for that 114|00:13:05|950|00:13:10|310particular life cycle, or else over a period of seven lives. We have to ask 115|00:13:10|310|00:13:16|590ourselves, you know, in terms of our life goal: how much does our life goal 116|00:13:16|590|00:13:29|050correspond with our particular rising sign? How much is this the case? 117|00:13:31|190|00:13:41|630The last two constitute the Greater Zodiac. EA, p.31 And I think Greater Zodiac is 118|00:13:41|630|00:13:49|670in the microcosmic sense. There are vast cosmic zodiacs—zodiac of 10, for instance— 119|00:13:49|670|00:13:55|610which is in a way even greater than our zodiac of 12 constellations. And that 120|00:13:55|610|00:14:04|810zodiac of 10 is consisting of a number of the constellations which constitute 121|00:14:04|810|00:14:10|310the chakras of the One about whom naught may be said. So when D.K. talks about the 122|00:14:10|310|00:14:19|730Greater Zodiac, he's doing it in the microcosmic sense. So the last two 123|00:14:19|730|00:14:25|030really are the sun sign and the rising sign—that is the greater zodiac 124|00:14:25|890|00:14:31|710microcosmically. The lesser zodiac then would be the planets per se in the 125|00:14:31|710|00:14:38|210houses, indicating circumstantial life, and not necessarily even a very high 126|00:14:38|210|00:14:42|950type of circumstantial life. If we talk about what's going on in the astral body 127|00:14:42|950|00:14:49|950in the mental body, that also is circumstance. It—it surrounds the—the 128|00:14:49|950|00:14:55|030point of consciousness which is focused within the jewel in the lotus. Even the 129|00:14:55|030|00:15:02|510egoic lotus is circumstance—that which stands around. So let's call the 130|00:15:02|510|00:15:08|930microcosmic greater zodiac the sun sign and the rising sign. Now we go to the 131|00:15:08|930|00:15:12|870next category, which is not so much the average disciple or the probationary 132|00:15:12|870|00:15:18|490disciple, but the higher disciple and initiate. 3. Disciples and initiates can 133|00:15:18|490|00:15:28|570begin consciously to respond to all of above influences, EA, p.31—mainly the planets 134|00:15:28|570|00:15:33|330in the houses and the sun sign and the rising sign—handling them constructively EA, p.31 135|00:15:33|330|00:15:42|550because they have a point of leverage and observation from which to work. Plus 136|00:15:42|550|00:15:47|890they respond as well to those potent yet infinitely subtle forces which pour 137|00:15:47|890|00:15:55|810into our solar system from the three major constellations referred to above. EA, p.31 Well, 138|00:15:55|810|00:16:00|430that word “infinitely,” you know—of course it means extremely subtle. It doesn't— 139|00:16:00|430|00:16:06|690well, you know, what is infinitely anything? It's a figure of speech when we 140|00:16:06|690|00:16:13|430are discussing the scope of something beyond our reckoning, and yet still 141|00:16:13|430|00:16:20|710finite. These forces are still finite, though extremely subtle. So disciples can 142|00:16:20|710|00:16:26|690begin—especially initiates can begin at the third degree—to respond to the three 143|00:16:26|690|00:16:32|250intimate constellations. In the early stages, the response is in the subtler 144|00:16:32|250|00:16:36|950bodies and the brain fails to register them, EA, p.31 But we are having all kinds of 145|00:16:36|950|00:16:42|290responses in our astral and mental and egoic bodies which our physical brain 146|00:16:42|290|00:16:47|570fails to register. Perhaps it is an indication of initiation—the 147|00:16:47|570|00:16:53|150sensitization of the brain cells in such a way that they can begin to respond to 148|00:16:53|150|00:16:56|830these subtler influences, which are always there but are finally brought 149|00:16:56|830|00:17:03|530through into conscious recognition on the physical plane. but after 150|00:17:03|530|00:17:08|310the third initiation, there is a recognition of them EA, p.31 these very subtle 151|00:17:08|310|00:17:13|230influences right there in the physical brain, and in our normal personality 152|00:17:13|230|00:17:21|710consciousness which is lived upon the physical plane. EA, p.31 Now he 153|00:17:21|710|00:17:26|030brings the subject back. Bringing the theme back to the subject of this 154|00:17:26|030|00:17:29|730treatise, which is that 155|00:17:29|730|00:17:33|750of the seven rays, EA, p.31 This is, after all, the third volume of the treatise on the 156|00:17:33|750|00:17:38|990seven rays. He really wants to emphasize that, because the rays in a way have a 157|00:17:38|990|00:17:45|930higher type of expression than astrology does. The rays are related to the second 158|00:17:45|930|00:17:50|050ray, which is the divine ray being developed in our solar system, and 159|00:17:50|050|00:17:55|010astrology is related to the third ray, or the primordial ray, which underwent 160|00:17:55|010|00:18:01|630development in the previous solar system and is now not so emphasized, though it 161|00:18:01|630|00:18:07|110is the foundation. So indeed, it is the rays we are discussing, and I would point 162|00:18:07|110|00:18:12|510out that these rays have a close connection with the seven stars of the 163|00:18:12|510|00:18:17|470Great Bear EA, p.31 Now, these are, for practical purposes, the sources of the 164|00:18:17|470|00:18:22|610seven rays. But we could go all the way to the Universa Logos—there, the God of 165|00:18:22|610|00:18:27|650the entire cosmos, the cosmos in its entirety in all dimensions—and say there 166|00:18:27|650|00:18:32|670is a universal septimate surrounding this great deity, which is the ultimate 167|00:18:32|670|00:18:37|250source of the seven rays. But for practical purposes, we say it's the seven 168|00:18:37|250|00:18:45|890major stars of the Great Bear. And you know their names: Alkaid, or 169|00:18:45|890|00:18:53|250Benetnash—that's ray one—and Mizar (but Alcor is also there, a secondary star), 170|00:18:53|250|00:19:02|490Mizar, and then Alioth—ray three—and Megrez—ray four—and Dubhe—ray five—and 171|00:19:02|490|00:19:14|690Merak—ray six—and Phecda (P-H-E-C-D-A)—ray seven. So those are the sources of the… 172|00:19:14|690|00:19:22|110Somehow, in some way, in this whole series of discussions, I will certainly 173|00:19:22|110|00:19:27|990spell them out. It's kind of a strange feeling doing this thing all 174|00:19:27|990|00:19:32|770over again, this time hoping that there is some video and that you can read the 175|00:19:32|770|00:19:39|270text, which is always a great help when thinking about these abstract concepts. 176|00:19:40|190|00:19:43|690these rays have a close connection with the seven stars of the Great Bear 177|00:19:43|690|00:19:48|910(again always the four and the three as a secondary differentiation) EA, p.31 Now, whether 178|00:19:48|910|00:19:52|310the four are on top and the three are on the bottom, or the three are on the top 179|00:19:52|310|00:19:56|270and the four on the bottom, depends on the context. When we're looking at the 180|00:19:56|270|00:20:01|790planes, we have four ethers superior to three planes which are part of the dense 181|00:20:01|790|00:20:08|850physical nature, whether of man or of a planetary Logos. But when we're looking 182|00:20:08|850|00:20:14|270at the personality—the fourfold personality: personality, mind, emotions, 183|00:20:14|270|00:20:21|690body, or from another perspective: mental body, astral body, etheric body, physical 184|00:20:21|690|00:20:28|410body—then we have the four on the bottom and the threefold soul consisting of the 185|00:20:28|410|00:20:35|310three aspects and the three types of petals are the elevated three. So 186|00:20:35|310|00:20:41|050sometimes, if you're looking at a square, the triangle is on top of the 187|00:20:41|050|00:20:47|850square. So there's a trinity on top of the square, and they do share one surface 188|00:20:47|850|00:20:53|750together. Perhaps that is the symbol of the third ray, shared both above and 189|00:20:53|750|00:21:02|190below. Anyway, I would point out that the rays have a close connection with the… 190|00:21:02|190|00:21:10|720The cup of the Big Dipper represents the vessel of form: rays 4, 5, 6, 7—the rays of 191|00:21:12|110|00:21:18|150attribute—and the handle of the Great Bear represents the rays of aspect: 192|00:21:18|150|00:21:23|710rays 1, 2, and 3, with the far end of the handle, or the far end of the tail, we 193|00:21:23|710|00:21:31|570can say being Ray 1. So these rays are connected to the Great Bear and to the 194|00:21:31|570|00:21:36|730seven Sisters, the Pleiades. EA, p.31 Well, maybe there are a thousand Pleiades—I 195|00:21:36|730|00:21:41|710think already over 800 have been identified. I have to check my astronomy 196|00:21:41|710|00:21:45|630on that, or someone has to check the astronomy. But there is a thousand-petal 197|00:21:45|630|00:21:50|050lotus, as we call it, and it would be very interesting if there were 198|00:21:51|030|00:21:56|130correspondentially as many of these Pleiades as there are petals in the head 199|00:21:56|130|00:22:01|610center of man, because the Pleiades can possibly be considered the total head 200|00:22:01|610|00:22:09|470center of the One about Whom naught may be said—our local super-cosmic Logos. OK. 201|00:22:10|830|00:22:15|910And the seven sisters—well, maybe they are special among the Pleiades, or most 202|00:22:15|910|00:22:20|870brilliant, as far as we are concerned, and maybe they represent, in a way, the jewel 203|00:22:20|870|00:22:28|810in the lotus in that great thousand-petals lotus. Every jewel is, in a way, 204|00:22:28|810|00:22:33|810sevenfold. It might have eight radiations in a certain respect, but it 205|00:22:33|810|00:22:40|750is a seven-faceted jewel, and so the seven sisters might be found there, 206|00:22:40|750|00:22:48|110although other theorists connect the Pleiades with the throat center of the 207|00:22:48|110|00:22:54|550One about Whom naught may be said. What exactly it is? Well, it certainly has a 208|00:22:54|550|00:23:00|970connection with a jewel-like structure because it is called by some “The Jewel 209|00:23:00|970|00:23:07|890Box,” which would fit very well. And it's like a miniature dipper, in a way. It has 210|00:23:07|890|00:23:15|330a connection with the stars of the Great Bear called the Big Dipper. So these rays 211|00:23:15|330|00:23:21|230have a connection with both the Pleiades and with the seven stars, the seven 212|00:23:21|230|00:23:25|270rishis of the Great Bear. The first constellation is the agent of positive 213|00:23:25|270|00:23:35|250force EA, p.31—will force— to the planetary Logos EA, p.31 in fact to all the planetary Logoi. and 214|00:23:35|250|00:23:42|510the other EA, p.31 Pleiades are the relayer of the negative aspects. EA, p.31 We have the 215|00:23:42|510|00:23:47|870masculine Great Bear and the feminine Pleiades. We do know that the Pleiades are 216|00:23:47|870|00:23:52|430always associated with form and with femininity, and the Great Bear with 217|00:23:52|430|00:23:58|550masculinity and with assertion and with the great masculine Rishis. But they both 218|00:23:58|550|00:24:06|110really need each other and are related seven to seven, with in a way a seven- 219|00:24:06|110|00:24:14|490fold little bear in between them. That sevenfold little bear, when you add the 220|00:24:14|490|00:24:20|330three sevens together, you get the 21, and taking the unit as a whole, you have the 221|00:24:20|330|00:24:28|900mystical number 22. I have talked about how the little bear can be considered a 222|00:24:28|900|00:24:37|760higher correspondence of Sirius and the Sirian constellation, which is our 223|00:24:37|760|00:24:42|760local constellation, is sometimes called the Sirian constellation. In other words, 224|00:24:42|760|00:24:46|500the seven solar systems, of which ours is one, is sometimes called the Sirian 225|00:24:46|500|00:24:51|120constellation. There is, therefore, a direct interchange of energies between 226|00:24:51|120|00:24:57|060the lives of the seven planetary Logoi EA, p.31 or the major ones presumably, and the 227|00:24:57|060|00:25:02|880stupendous and unfathomable Lives Who inform these major constellations. EA, p.31 Now, 228|00:25:02|880|00:25:08|240even the stars themselves are informed by stupendous and unfathomable lives, but 229|00:25:08|240|00:25:14|860just imagine what types of beings need the entire constellation of the Great 230|00:25:14|860|00:25:19|300Bear to manifest through. What type of being is that? What type of being needs 231|00:25:19|300|00:25:25|780the seven sisters as a whole to manifest through? They are certainly stupendous 232|00:25:25|780|00:25:33|260and unfathomable, and the planetary Logoi are in this exchange. Now, you know, I 233|00:25:33|260|00:25:37|520don't know if I mentioned before—like I say, I realise that what I'm saying now 234|00:25:37|520|00:25:43|440has some points in common with what I just said when I failed to record the 235|00:25:43|440|00:25:46|740video, but in many ways it's quite different, and I am emphasising 236|00:25:46|740|00:25:55|660different points, so I think it would be profitable to listen to both. Just as 237|00:25:55|660|00:26:01|920there are seven major planetary Logoi and another number of minor ones—three to 238|00:26:01|920|00:26:10|000five—so perhaps within the Great Bear there are seven major stars with some 239|00:26:10|000|00:26:17|020non-sacred solar Logoi involved there, or at least lesser—maybe three to five—maybe 240|00:26:17|020|00:26:24|220in the Pleiades we can also consider lesser or non-sacred Pleiades. 241|00:26:24|960|00:26:30|600I'm thinking that the non-sacred planets, the five of them of our solar 242|00:26:30|600|00:26:36|200system—two of them as yet undiscovered—may be relating to non-sacred solar 243|00:26:36|200|00:26:43|640Logoi within the Great Bear and to non-sacred solar Logoi within the Pleiades. 244|00:26:43|640|00:26:48|120Although, you know, just as they're going to be 12 sacred planets in our solar 245|00:26:48|120|00:26:57|720system, perhaps there are going to be 12 sacred Rishis and 12 sacred Pleiades. 246|00:26:57|720|00:27:02|740It's simply a speculation, but we want to line the numbers up. Definitely we do 247|00:27:02|740|00:27:08|340know that there will be 12 sacred planets when Earth and Mars and Pluto 248|00:27:08|340|00:27:13|440and so forth become sacred planets, and when the two non-sacred undiscovered 249|00:27:13|440|00:27:20|040planets veiled by the Sun and the Moon become sacred planets. So anyway, there 250|00:27:20|040|00:27:24|380are stupendous and unfathomable lives informing these constellations as a 251|00:27:24|380|00:27:28|960whole and great lives informing the stars which make up the constellations. 252|00:27:28|960|00:27:34|620Great interlocking triangles of force can be found existing between the seven 253|00:27:34|620|00:27:44|940planets and the two groups of seven stars each. EA, p.31 The—let's just call the 254|00:27:44|940|00:27:51|840sacred planets—each one is aligned with one Rishi and one of the seven of the— 255|00:27:51|840|00:27:59|920one of the seven of the Pleiades, and these triangles are of momentous 256|00:27:59|920|00:28:09|160import. They are not understood by us at this time, but the SDK now says It will 257|00:28:09|160|00:28:14|220eventually be discovered that the innermost secret of astrological 258|00:28:14|220|00:28:19|440deduction in the planetary sense is connected with these “sacred triangles,” EA, p.31 So if 259|00:28:19|440|00:28:25|900we want to know about the horoscope of our planet, we will want to know the 260|00:28:25|900|00:28:31|260particular connection with one star of the Great Bear and one star of the 261|00:28:31|260|00:28:37|100Pleiades, and that will tell us a great deal about the process through which our 262|00:28:37|100|00:28:43|640planetary Logos is passing. So in the planetary sense, the innermost secret is 263|00:28:43|640|00:28:50|300connected with these stellar triangles—two stars and one planet—and 264|00:28:50|300|00:28:58|020they are-in their turn-represented by the triangles (shifting and changing) 265|00:28:58|020|00:29:04|460which can be constructed in connection with the seven centres. EA, p.31-32 in the human 266|00:29:04|460|00:29:14|980being. So we have a reflection in our etheric body, which is very important, and 267|00:29:14|980|00:29:21|520what I think happens here is that in these triangles is a positive force, 268|00:29:21|520|00:29:27|080there is a negative force—at least negative to the positive—and there is a 269|00:29:27|080|00:29:33|640kind of a planetary force. Well, certainly seems to me the planet has to represent 270|00:29:33|640|00:29:42|720the what can I call it, the third ray aspect, and the Pleiades, which are 271|00:29:42|720|00:29:49|280connected with cosmic booty, also represent the second ray aspect, and the 272|00:29:49|280|00:30:03|920Great Bear the first ray aspect. There is on page 1162 of Cosmic Fire a quotation 273|00:30:03|920|00:30:08|780which shows us that the Pleiades are indeed connected with the second ray and 274|00:30:08|780|00:30:15|120the Buddhic force, as well as with the third ray. It's talking of the energy 275|00:30:15|120|00:30:20|900centers of the Solar Logos, which are the planetary Logo. They form vast lotuses 276|00:30:20|900|00:30:26|620or wheels, at the center of which lies hidden that central cosmic life we call 277|00:30:26|620|00:30:32|580a Planetary Logos. The Planetary Logos, the monadic aspect of that being within 278|00:30:32|580|00:30:41|780the Lotus. He is the meeting place for two types of force: spiritual or Logoic, 279|00:30:41|780|00:30:50|640which reaches him via the Logoic Lotus on cosmic mental planes, through the egoic 280|00:30:50|640|00:30:57|200Lotus of our Solar Logos on the on the higher cosmic mental plane. Two types of 281|00:30:57|200|00:31:07|840force reach into the Planetary Logos, and these forces are from the seven Rishis 282|00:31:07|840|00:31:16|940of the Great Bear on their own plane, which according to the map on what is 283|00:31:16|940|00:31:23|220this chart number five? I'm not exactly sure what page yet — page 344 is chart 284|00:31:23|220|00:31:31|340number five — and it suggests that the Rishis of the Great Bear are on the 285|00:31:31|340|00:31:36|320fourth or Buddhic cosmic plane. But I don't think that is accurate. I think 286|00:31:36|320|00:31:43|160really the cosmic Atmic plane I think is their plane, and so I think these cosmic 287|00:31:43|160|00:31:49|460Atmic forces of the Great Bear are reaching the Planetary Logos, along with 288|00:31:49|460|00:31:56|460secondly, it says Buddhic force, which is transmitted via the seven sisters, or the 289|00:31:56|460|00:32:01|580Pleiades, from a constellation called the Dragon in some books, and from which has 290|00:32:01|580|00:32:05|560come the appellation the Dragon of Wisdom. Well, it's a huge amazing 291|00:32:05|560|00:32:11|240Kundalini constellation, but it doesn't just have 7th ray and 1st ray. The Dragon 292|00:32:11|240|00:32:18|660apparently has 7 second ray; otherwise, the Masters, who in a tiny way reflect the 293|00:32:18|660|00:32:23|000greater Dragon and who represent the second ray, would not be called Dragons 294|00:32:23|000|00:32:27|540of Wisdom. And the Planetary Logo, who are also Dragons of Wisdom and are 295|00:32:27|540|00:32:31|400expressing the will to love, would not be called Dragons of Wisdom if there were 296|00:32:31|400|00:32:35|800no second ray in this great constellation of the Dragon. And that 297|00:32:35|800|00:32:40|540second ray goes right on through the Pleiades, who then therefore represent the 298|00:32:40|540|00:32:48|280middle or equilibrizing force. Perhaps the soul force of the Pleiades is the 299|00:32:48|280|00:32:54|600second ray and thereby can be connected in the human energy system with the 300|00:32:54|600|00:32:59|500second chakra: the Great Bear with the first chakra of the triangle, the Pleiades 301|00:32:59|500|00:33:06|900with the second chakra, and the planet concerned with the third chakra. There is 302|00:33:06|900|00:33:16|060in Discipleship in the New Age Volume One, page, let's say 41 approximately — that's 31, 303|00:33:16|060|00:33:29|76041 — a list of chakras which people serving along different lines express. For 304|00:33:29|760|00:33:33|300instance, group one of telepathic communicators expresses the head, the 305|00:33:33|300|00:33:38|040heart, and the throat centers. Well, in this case, if we're looking for the 306|00:33:38|040|00:33:45|620analogy between Great Bear, Pleiades, planet, we might find that the Great Bear 307|00:33:45|620|00:33:53|380represents the head, as most normally it does; the Pleiades represent the heart 308|00:33:53|380|00:34:00|940center; and let us say perhaps the planet Saturn represents the throat center. In 309|00:34:00|940|00:34:05|660the human being, we know that Saturn rules the throat center of disciples and 310|00:34:05|660|00:34:11|620the Earth rules the throat center of more average people. But perhaps we can 311|00:34:11|620|00:34:18|120take this little reflective triangle in our little etheric system and say yes, it 312|00:34:18|120|00:34:24|720somehow represents the great triangle involving Great Bear, Pleiades, and a 313|00:34:24|720|00:34:32|880planet. And remember the innermost astrological deduction: how does he put 314|00:34:32|880|00:34:40|600it? The innermost secret of astrological deduction is represented by these great 315|00:34:40|600|00:34:47|560cosmic triangle. So maybe there is a secret of astrological deduction for the 316|00:34:47|560|00:34:54|020human being involved in the chakra triangles within the etheric body, within 317|00:34:54|020|00:34:57|500the astral body, and also in the mental body. Let's take a look at group number 318|00:34:57|500|00:35:02|080two: the head, heart, and solar plexus. These are the observers of reality, those 319|00:35:02|080|00:35:07|240who are involved in the dissipation of glamour. The head, let us say, is the Great 320|00:35:07|240|00:35:15|040Bear; the heart is representing the Pleiades in this case; and the solar plexus, 321|00:35:15|040|00:35:20|380either Mars or Neptune — but let us say Neptune, keeping it in the sacred planets. 322|00:35:20|380|00:35:27|580then we have the healing group: the head, heart and Ajna centers in this case. 323|00:35:31|940|00:35:36|840Perhaps the head and the heart again are the Great Bear and the Pleiades, with the 324|00:35:36|840|00:35:42|680Ajna center representing, let us say, either Venus or Mercury - either fifth 325|00:35:42|680|00:35:48|400ray or fourth ray, depending upon the level of evolution. Mercury at the Ajna 326|00:35:48|400|00:35:53|760center is higher than Venus at the Ajna center. Group four are the educators: the 327|00:35:53|760|00:36:00|180head, Ajna and throat centers. In this case, the head would be the Great Bear. It 328|00:36:00|180|00:36:03|540seems we always have the head center involved in these particular triangles. 329|00:36:03|540|00:36:09|340That doesn't mean there are not significant triangles within the etheric 330|00:36:09|340|00:36:14|780body that do not include the head center, but you know we're using this as 331|00:36:14|780|00:36:19|400an example. How can we find triangles within our own nature which somehow 332|00:36:19|400|00:36:24|220reflect these great triangles which hold the innermost secret of astrological 333|00:36:24|220|00:36:28|900deduction? So we have the Great Bear as the head, the Pleiades of the Ajna, and 334|00:36:28|900|00:36:35|740probably Saturn is the throat center. Or, you know, we could possibly turn this 335|00:36:35|740|00:36:41|580around, but I like the idea that the two highest of the centers are 336|00:36:41|580|00:36:45|160represented by the Great Bear and the Pleiades, with the Pleiades having kind 337|00:36:45|160|00:36:49|760of an intermediary function - not just a material function, but a second ray 338|00:36:49|760|00:36:58|640buddhic mediating function. Group five are the political workers: head, heart and 339|00:36:58|640|00:37:03|020base of the spine. We would have the Great Bear head, the Pleiades of the 340|00:37:03|020|00:37:11|540heart, and well, base of the spine center is ruled by Pluto, ruled by the Earth 341|00:37:13|580|00:37:20|540systemically and by Pluto in terms of the microcosm. So it could be indeed 342|00:37:21|300|00:37:24|620Pluto. Is there a sacred planet we can associate with the base of the spine 343|00:37:24|620|00:37:29|580where we can associate Mercury and the Kundalini with the base of the spine? 344|00:37:29|580|00:37:37|360Mercury represents Kundalini active, and Mars Kundalini latent. Number six 345|00:37:37|360|00:37:41|740is the same as group number two: the religious workers - head, heart and solar 346|00:37:41|740|00:37:46|780plexus, and we would give it the same kind of assignment: Great Bear, Pleiades 347|00:37:46|780|00:37:54|900and, let us say, Neptune. And then the seventh group is the scientist. The last 348|00:37:54|900|00:37:59|120ones that have only three - we won't get into those that represent four because 349|00:37:59|120|00:38:07|640we are talking about triangles rather than rectangles or squares. So the head, 350|00:38:07|640|00:38:10|420the heart of head, the throat and the sacral center for the scientists - 351|00:38:10|420|00:38:15|840scientific workers. Great Bear again, Pleiades of the throat, and sacral center - 352|00:38:15|840|00:38:23|200well, shall it be Uranus that is the sacred planet which represents the 353|00:38:23|920|00:38:29|660sacral center? Although we can certainly connect the moon, we can connect Mars, 354|00:38:31|500|00:38:36|800even early Venus in some respect. All of the planets in a way are to be found in 355|00:38:36|800|00:38:42|280every chakra, just as upon this chakra that we call the Earth, all of the 356|00:38:42|280|00:38:46|020planets are represented in all the zodiacal signs. All right, so that 357|00:38:46|020|00:38:51|740gives us an idea of how we can look for triangles within the etheric system 358|00:38:51|740|00:38:58|740first, which may somehow represent in a very microcosmic way these great 359|00:38:59|840|00:39:05|820macrocosmic triangles. And you know, the real evolution of a human being has to 360|00:39:05|820|00:39:09|520do with what's going on in those chakras: how are they stimulated, how are they 361|00:39:09|520|00:39:13|020related, are they in the proper adjustment? So then when we're trying to 362|00:39:13|020|00:39:19|460get the most out of our horoscope, we can certainly study our etheric system and 363|00:39:19|460|00:39:24|240see what in the horoscope gives us a hint as to how to increase the 364|00:39:24|240|00:39:31|420effectiveness of that system. In casting the horoscope of the planet, 365|00:39:31|420|00:39:38|140which will some day be possible - it may be ages away from now - in the great 366|00:39:38|140|00:39:41|820astrological department of hierarchy they can do this, and I believe the 367|00:39:41|820|00:39:47|520Tibetan can do this as well, because he tells us that Libra is growing in 368|00:39:47|520|00:39:54|280strength in the planetary horoscope. Now, how does he know that? Okay, so you know, 369|00:39:54|280|00:40:00|520does it have something to do with the relationship of, let us say, a star in the 370|00:40:00|520|00:40:05|660Great Bear, a star in the Pleiades, one of the zodiacal constellations and 371|00:40:05|660|00:40:13|340the Earth? That would be a fourfold pattern. And maybe somehow always one of 372|00:40:13|340|00:40:23|840the constellations in the zodiac is considered as the rising sign for our 373|00:40:23|840|00:40:29|060particular planet for a particular period of time. Would we say that it is 374|00:40:29|060|00:40:36|040necessarily the sign of the processional age through which we 375|00:40:36|040|00:40:42|320are passing? I mean, are we to consider that Aquarius is becoming the 376|00:40:42|320|00:40:47|500rising sign of the Earth, or sort of the progressed rising side of the Earth 377|00:40:47|500|00:40:51|680during this period. Well, we might be able to say that, but Libra is certainly 378|00:40:51|680|00:40:56|200related to Aquarius, and, you know, it's one of the three air signs. And we're not 379|00:40:56|200|00:41:01|820sure — we're not sure why he says Libra is becoming powerful, or for how long it 380|00:41:01|820|00:41:07|180will become powerful, or whether it's simply part of the fact that an air sign 381|00:41:07|180|00:41:14|200is becoming dominant, namely Aquarius. Anyway, the Tibetan knows something about 382|00:41:14|200|00:41:18|500the casting of the horoscope of the planet, and it would seem to me 383|00:41:18|500|00:41:25|600that he would be a member of this astrological department. In casting the 384|00:41:25|600|00:41:28|680horoscope of the planet (which will some day be possible) it will be found 385|00:41:28|680|00:41:36|500that the line of these forces and of our planetary response to them is of a more 386|00:41:36|500|00:41:42|340potent effect than is the influence of the zodiacal constellations upon the human 387|00:41:42|340|00:41:48|740unit. EA, p.32 Well, the zodiacal constellations certainly affect the human unit, and they 388|00:41:48|740|00:41:54|960as well affect the planetary Logos, as we have been told. The three great 389|00:41:56|740|00:42:01|880constellations being more powerful, but the zodiacal constellations definitely 390|00:42:01|880|00:42:08|880having a planetary effect, as we read earlier in the text. So let us say the 391|00:42:08|880|00:42:14|400Great Bear, Pleiades, and planetary triangles must be very, very potent if 392|00:42:14|400|00:42:18|880they are to be more potent than the zodiacal constellations, which represent 393|00:42:18|880|00:42:23|760petals in the heart and the head chakra of the One about whom naught may be said. 394|00:42:23|760|00:42:30|160You know, there's a little problem there: what's greater, what's lesser? The 395|00:42:30|160|00:42:40|700Great Bear perhaps represents the seven head centers of the One about whom 396|00:42:40|700|00:42:46|580naught may be said. The Pleiades as a whole perhaps represent the entire head 397|00:42:46|580|00:42:50|340center of the One about whom naught may be said. But then the zodiacal 398|00:42:50|340|00:42:55|520constellations are right in there, in the heart and the head center of the One 399|00:42:55|520|00:42:59|420about whom naught may be said, and it's said to be the major center in the head 400|00:42:59|420|00:43:08|700center. So which is greater? But basically, D.K. is saying that these Great 401|00:43:08|700|00:43:17|720Bear, Pleiades, and planetary connections have a much greater effect upon the 402|00:43:17|720|00:43:22|720planet than the zodiac has upon us. So we'll just have to take this at face 403|00:43:22|720|00:43:29|560value. And we may take it a little further and ask whether there are not 404|00:43:29|560|00:43:36|560some triangles in our etheric body which have a greater effect upon us, the human 405|00:43:36|560|00:43:43|680unit, than the zodiacal signs have upon us. We always have to use the law of 406|00:43:43|680|00:43:49|800analogy, and basically, in this hierarchical universe, what we have to 407|00:43:49|800|00:43:55|840discover is what is greater and what is lesser. It's a question of magnitude, and 408|00:43:55|840|00:44:01|300we will make very many mistakes if we put a lesser thing in a greater position, 409|00:44:01|300|00:44:07|040and a greater thing in a lesser position. But it's not always easy to determine 410|00:44:07|040|00:44:18|320what is greater and what is lesser. Anyway, he's saying that the line of 411|00:44:18|320|00:44:22|940forces we've been discussing, which are triangles, are having a very potent 412|00:44:22|940|00:44:28|680effect, and This is due to the immeasurably advanced point in evolution 413|00:44:28|680|00:44:36|780of the planetary Spirits EA, p.32 They are planetary Logoi Who have (in Their 414|00:44:36|780|00:44:44|040individual lives) largely transcended the influence of the twelve constellations and 415|00:44:44|040|00:44:50|860are becoming rapidly responsive to the higher vibrations of their great 416|00:44:50|860|00:44:57|360Prototypes, the “three intimate constellations,” as they have esoterically been 417|00:44:57|360|00:45:08|820called. EA, p.32 So there's a movement away from… Well, let's just say that an 418|00:45:08|820|00:45:14|060elder brother or sister of each one of the planets is a zodiacal constellation. 419|00:45:14|060|00:45:20|060I didn't really mention this the first time I went through this. Every zodiacal 420|00:45:20|060|00:45:41|100constellation is a greater… whoops, I just made that disappear… is a prototype of a 421|00:45:43|680|00:45:50|980planetary Logos. But so are the constellation — the stars of the Great 422|00:45:50|980|00:45:56|780Bear and of the Pleiades. So we know that, let's say, Mars is related to Aries. The Lord of 423|00:45:56|780|00:46:03|600Aries is related to Mars; they have something in common so that Mars can 424|00:46:03|600|00:46:11|760learn a great deal from the Lord of the constellation Aries. But maybe Mars 425|00:46:11|760|00:46:17|800can learn even more from the Lord of the constellation of the Great Bear 426|00:46:17|800|00:46:25|260and, through the particular Rishi, which represents a specific relationship with 427|00:46:25|260|00:46:29|640Mars. I'm not saying which one — this could be, maybe it would depend upon the 428|00:46:29|640|00:46:34|700monadic ray or the soul ray, depending on what solar system we're in. You know, 429|00:46:34|700|00:46:40|300our planetary Logo are developing their soul ray particularly now, and not so 430|00:46:40|300|00:46:49|380much their monadic rays, unless we are speaking of the synthesizing planets who 431|00:46:49|380|00:46:56|540are maybe developing their monadic rays. So, you know, we might take a first-rate 432|00:46:56|540|00:47:01|700planet like Vulcan and connected with the very first star of the Great Bear 433|00:47:01|700|00:47:10|240and say, “Okay, first-rate soul Vulcan is learning more from this particular star 434|00:47:10|240|00:47:16|380Logos in the Great Bear, Rishi in the Great Bear, than it is learning from, let 435|00:47:16|380|00:47:21|980us say, the Lord of the constellation Taurus with which it is associated.” 436|00:47:21|980|00:47:29|660These are very subtle relationships, and we really have to understand magnitude 437|00:47:29|660|00:47:34|760in order to understand them. You know, it's a bit like looking at the human 438|00:47:34|760|00:47:37|700being and say, “Well, which is more powerful?” That's such an important 439|00:47:37|700|00:47:42|080question. Which is more powerful? Is a particular petal in the heart of the 440|00:47:42|080|00:47:48|260head center of a human being more powerful, or is one of the 441|00:47:48|260|00:47:54|820seven head centers more powerful? See, because different planets represent 442|00:47:54|820|00:48:02|340these different seven head centers, and the constellations represent the twelve 443|00:48:02|340|00:48:06|880petals in the heart of the head center of the one about whom, but also in 444|00:48:06|880|00:48:11|400relation to the human being. So, in a way, the zodiac is found here in the human 445|00:48:11|400|00:48:16|260being. The heart of the head center is a kind of a miniature zodiac, and the 446|00:48:16|260|00:48:22|280seven planets are found in the subsidiary head centers. So, in a way, I 447|00:48:22|280|00:48:28|300just have to say it: it sometimes looks like the petals in our heart of the head 448|00:48:28|300|00:48:36|520center are somehow more powerful than these isolated head centers, the seven of 449|00:48:36|520|00:48:41|240them. Well, you know, obviously this has to be thought through. I didn't mention any 450|00:48:41|240|00:48:47|600of this particularly in the first go-through of this text, but different 451|00:48:47|600|00:48:55|240things do come to mind. So these planetary spirits are at a huge level of 452|00:48:55|240|00:49:01|320evolution. That has been said that, let us say, for our planetary Logos, it is now 453|00:49:01|320|00:49:07|300many Mahakalpas ahead in its development of where a master of the wisdom is—many 454|00:49:07|300|00:49:13|600Mahakalpas ago, which means, you know, complete solar systems of 311 trillion 455|00:49:13|600|00:49:20|880years, approximately. Many Mahakalpas ago, our planetary Logos was at the place 456|00:49:20|880|00:49:29|140where a master of the wisdom would be. So our planetary Logos was equivalent to a 457|00:49:29|140|00:49:34|900master of the wisdom many Mahakalpas ago. So we see by the idea here of the 458|00:49:34|900|00:49:40|720immeasurably advanced point in evolution of these planetary spirits. Well, just 459|00:49:40|720|00:49:45|100imagine if they are that advanced, then how advanced are the Lords of the 460|00:49:45|100|00:49:52|500constellations? Yes, or the Lords of the great and intimate constellations which 461|00:49:52|500|00:50:00|900are transcendental. So we're dealing, you know, beyond our depth here, but we 462|00:50:00|900|00:50:06|520speculate accordingly, knowing that even if we have a good system in our mind, it 463|00:50:06|520|00:50:13|040has to be filled in by experience over millions and millions of years. So the 464|00:50:13|040|00:50:17|580planetary Logos then are, in a sense, reaching out to the three intimate 465|00:50:17|580|00:50:22|540constellations and to the members of these intimate constellations. They are 466|00:50:22|540|00:50:27|540intimate to what? Well, we might say they are intimate to the one about whom not 467|00:50:27|540|00:50:38|840may be said, and perhaps they have a very close relation to the structure of the 468|00:50:38|840|00:50:47|640head center of the one about whom not may be said—that the seven head 469|00:50:47|640|00:50:53|140centers, the head center as a whole, the heart of the head center, the jewel in 470|00:50:53|140|00:50:57|400that part of the head center. Perhaps these three intimate constellations are 471|00:50:57|400|00:51:05|740related to that whole head structure of this super-constellational Logos known as 472|00:51:05|740|00:51:14|420the unknown on page 293 of Cosmic Fire. Okay, so this is a correspondence in the 473|00:51:14|420|00:51:20|940lives of these great entities to the manner in which—and the great entities, I 474|00:51:20|940|00:51:25|320assume, are the planetary Logos—this is a correspondence to the manner in which an 475|00:51:25|320|00:51:30|640advanced individual has a focus in his triad or monad can offset the influence 476|00:51:30|640|00:51:37|380of the planets and so dominate his personality life. Well, let's just say 477|00:51:37|380|00:51:44|100that if I understand this correctly, these planetary Logos are beginning to 478|00:51:44|100|00:51:50|560focus within the intimate constellations and thus able to offset some of the 479|00:51:50|560|00:51:56|840influence that the zodiacal constellations have had upon them, just 480|00:51:56|840|00:52:07|060as the human being who is focusing in his monadic area and his triad area can 481|00:52:07|060|00:52:19|420perhaps offset some of the influence of the signs upon his life. So, in other 482|00:52:19|420|00:52:27|000words, focusing in one area of one's energy system and offsetting a group of lives that had 483|00:52:27|000|00:52:32|700worked through the personality life and maybe even through the soul life, because 484|00:52:32|700|00:52:39|360at a certain point the soul has to be offset as well. Let's repeat this: This is 485|00:52:39|360|00:52:43|240a correspondence in the lives of these great Entities to the manner in which an 486|00:52:43|240|00:52:50|180advanced individual can offset the influence of the planets and thus so dominate 487|00:52:50|180|00:52:54|560his personality life that prediction and certainty, as to activity and circumstance, 488|00:52:54|560|00:52:58|400are no longer possible. EA, p.32 Now this is something which maybe I didn't fully 489|00:52:58|400|00:53:02|540understand or fathom in the first read-through of this, but let's say the 490|00:53:02|540|00:53:16|020planets, the planetary Logos, offset the influence of the zodiacal constellations 491|00:53:19|480|00:53:28|720as zodiacal constellations as they reach towards the intimate constellations. 492|00:53:28|720|00:53:41|980OK. And man, focusing in his higher nature, offsets the influence of the 493|00:53:41|980|00:53:56|640planets and the factors which rule in the realm of the soul. I 494|00:53:56|640|00:54:05|780think we have to be very careful here with this analogy, but we know we are 495|00:54:05|780|00:54:13|580told that the planetary Logos are moving beyond the influence of the 496|00:54:13|580|00:54:21|120zodiacal constellations per se and into still higher influences. So for the 497|00:54:21|120|00:54:26|900human being, The soul is dominating, and the planets cease to condition the life. EA, p.32 498|00:54:26|900|00:54:32|500So we are talking about offsetting the planets, and perhaps we are reaching more 499|00:54:32|500|00:54:37|740into the zodiacal sphere, and eventually the third degree initiation and beyond 500|00:54:37|740|00:54:45|560will be reaching into the sphere of spirit and monad, which is related to the 501|00:54:45|560|00:54:53|100three intimate constellations. Maybe we can, after that initiation, focus on the 502|00:54:55|040|00:55:00|980tenuous streams of force from the Great Bear, Pleiades and Sirius. So it is 503|00:55:00|980|00:55:07|220with the constellations and the planetary Logoi. EA, p.32 Continuing the analogy, They can 504|00:55:07|220|00:55:12|220offset the lower influences as They awaken to and respond to the infinitely higher 505|00:55:12|220|00:55:16|240vibrations of the three major constellations. EA, p.32 So to try to make it 506|00:55:16|240|00:55:20|680simple without the intricacies here: we can offset the planets, and they can 507|00:55:20|680|00:55:26|740offset the zodiacal constellations. We're trying to move into the soul 508|00:55:26|740|00:55:32|120power conferred by the zodiacal constellations, and a few of us can move 509|00:55:32|120|00:55:36|920into some streams which are in touch with the intimate constellations. But the 510|00:55:36|920|00:55:42|760planetary Logos in general have a great relationship with the zodiacal 511|00:55:42|760|00:55:49|860constellations; they are trying to polarize themselves more completely within the 512|00:55:49|860|00:55:56|380superior constellations, of which there are three major. Now, do they have a third 513|00:55:56|380|00:56:03|260degree? They do. And our planetary Logos is not an initiate of the third degree— 514|00:56:03|260|00:56:13|620he's not even a cosmic initiate of the second degree. So perhaps when they reach 515|00:56:13|620|00:56:22|860their third degree, they can particularly begin to respond to the superior 516|00:56:22|860|00:56:30|980constellations rather than simply to the zodiacal constellations. Well, you know, 517|00:56:30|980|00:56:38|880we all have teachers in life, and we could say in a way that the Lords of 518|00:56:38|880|00:56:43|220the zodiacal constellations are teaching the planetary Logos, and the 519|00:56:43|220|00:56:50|180Lords of the external, or exterior, or superior constellations are perhaps 520|00:56:50|180|00:56:56|020teaching the zodiacal Lords, although as I said, there's some question about 521|00:56:56|020|00:57:00|680which is higher under what circumstance. That has to be very carefully thought 522|00:57:00|680|00:57:05|140through, but at least this seems to be the pattern that D.K. is presenting to us. 523|00:57:05|140|00:57:13|180Now, you know, nothing is ever the same, so I certainly didn't say anything like 524|00:57:13|180|00:57:21|600what I said in the previous number 14, and I'm finding that it probably is not 525|00:57:21|600|00:57:29|020a great idea to go ahead into the discussion of the Creative Hierarchies. I 526|00:57:29|020|00:57:35|620see I spent a longer time on the section previous to the section on the Creative 527|00:57:35|620|00:57:42|800Hierarchies. Already 56 minutes have passed—57 minutes—and so I'm going to 528|00:57:42|800|00:57:52|700leave the creative hierarchies as a bit of a review for the discussion in “Esoteric 529|00:57:52|700|00:57:57|600Astrology Adventure” number 15, and I'm hoping and praying that the video on 530|00:57:57|600|00:58:05|320this did take, because I'm just not going to repeat it again. We'll get into 531|00:58:05|320|00:58:10|860that. There will be a very good place to start for number 15, and I've already 532|00:58:10|860|00:58:15|000said, I think, some significant things about the relationship of the fifth 533|00:58:15|000|00:58:22|600almost-liberated Creative Hierarchy and the fifth manifested Creative Hierarchy 534|00:58:22|600|00:58:29|120of solar Angels. But I will repeat those things and, hopefully, be able to use 535|00:58:29|120|00:58:41|800the tables properly. So let us now sound The Great Invocation together. From the 536|00:58:41|800|00:58:48|900point of light. OK, there we go. We will sound The Great Invocation together as 537|00:58:48|900|00:58:56|180we always do as we close these esoteric astrology webinars, remembering that the 538|00:58:56|180|00:59:02|540foremost way of precipitating, hastening, helping the reappearance of the Christ 539|00:59:02|540|00:59:06|520is through the use of The Great Invocation and the spread of the Great 540|00:59:06|520|00:59:07|380Invocation. 541|00:59:22|020|00:59:28|560From the point of light within the mind of God, let light stream forth into the 542|00:59:28|560|00:59:32|500minds of men. Let light descend on earth. 543|00:59:34|840|00:59:39|920From the point of love within the heart of God, let love stream forth into the 544|00:59:39|920|00:59:47|940hearts of men. May Christ return to earth. From the center where the will of 545|00:59:47|940|00:59:53|460God is known, let purpose guide the little wills of men, the purpose which 546|00:59:53|460|01:00:01|300the Masters know and serve. From the center which we call the race of men, let 547|01:00:01|300|01:00:07|260the plan of love and light work out, and may it seal the door where evil dwells. 548|01:00:08|500|01:00:13|900Let light and love and power restore the plan on earth. 549|01:00:50|480|01:01:03|480OK friends, thank you for participating in this redo of adventure number 14, but 550|01:01:03|480|01:01:07|100I did emphasize different things. Whether you have the patience to listen to both 551|01:01:07|100|01:01:12|720of them, I don't know, but at least there will be one which has the video, and I 552|01:01:12|720|01:01:15|880did not get into the creative hierarchies which I did in the earlier 553|01:01:15|880|01:01:24|560one. Audio—you'll have some information there, and I will begin number 15 with 554|01:01:24|560|01:01:31|100the creative hierarchies, a huge subject, and we must study as well our cosmic 555|01:01:31|100|01:01:40|680fire to penetrate the matter to the small extent that we can. So farewell 556|01:01:40|680|01:01:43|740for now, and I'll turn off the recording.
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