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1|00:00:14|120|00:00:22|160Okay, hi everybody. This is Esoteric Astrology Adventure number 16, and we are picking up 2|00:00:22|160|00:00:36|400in our discussion of the table on page number 35. 3|00:00:39|960|00:00:51|860We were simply delineating the numbers and the astrological factors and other facts which 4|00:00:51|860|00:00:53|580can be found in relation to this table. 5|00:00:54|220|00:01:04|580We had covered up to the fifth manifesting creative hierarchy. 6|00:01:06|440|00:01:10|040This is an interesting hierarchy and very, very important. 7|00:01:10|980|00:01:16|940It is the tenth numbering down, the fifth of the manifested creative hierarchies, and 8|00:01:16|940|00:01:18|580the third numbering up. 9|00:01:19|390|00:01:26|500We can see it has a great deal to do with the mind, with the numbers 5 and 3, and also 10|00:01:27|660|00:01:32|040with the will, with integration and with power. 11|00:01:33|200|00:01:42|200The name is said to be the human personality, the crocodiles, and Makara, the mystery. 12|00:01:42|200|00:01:48|780But from another point of view, this fifth creative hierarchy is the hierarchy of solar 13|00:01:48|780|00:02:02|380angels, and we have to wonder whether this particular hierarchy is dual in the sense 14|00:02:02|380|00:02:07|940that part of it represents the personality or the crocodiles, and part of it represents 15|00:02:07|940|00:02:17|120Makara or the actual Agnishvatas or solar deities who have descended sacrificially to 16|00:02:17|700|00:02:19|360aid the human being. 17|00:02:21|140|00:02:27|080Its ruling sign is Capricorn, and Venus is the hierarchical ruler, Venus the planet of 18|00:02:27|080|00:02:27|940the solar angels. 19|00:02:28|860|00:02:38|560Its color is indigo, which interestingly enough is the esoteric color of the fifth ray, and 20|00:02:38|560|00:02:40|820so is a color deeply associated with Venus. 21|00:02:42|140|00:02:51|880If we look at the notes in the C major scale, we will find that the note A, which is correlated 22|00:02:51|880|00:02:58|060with the fifth ray, has associated with it the color indigo. 23|00:02:59|080|00:03:08|400Icha shakti, the will to manifest—in this case, the will to manifest a human personality 24|00:03:08|950|00:03:12|300through which the higher triad can express. 25|00:03:14|940|00:03:22|880Its element is fire, which is interesting because it relates it up here to the first 26|00:03:22|880|00:03:26|180creative hierarchy under Leo, whose element is also fire. 27|00:03:28|320|00:03:32|660We have a relationship between Leo and Capricorn. 28|00:03:33|080|00:03:38|600D.K. discussed the lion and the unicorn, but in this case Leo is the superior hierarchy 29|00:03:38|600|00:03:39|240apparently. 30|00:03:39|760|00:03:45|700It operates on the mental plane, and we do not necessarily see a division here between 31|00:03:45|700|00:03:54|340the higher and lower mental plane, although we do see in this picture that it is divided. 32|00:03:54|700|00:04:02|440So does this particular hierarchy manifest on both the higher and lower mental plane? 33|00:04:02|440|00:04:09|660And as it manifests on the lower mental plane, should it be considered the human personality 34|00:04:10|460|00:04:12|860associated with the crocodiles? 35|00:04:13|620|00:04:19|160And as it manifests on the higher mental plane, if it does, should it be considered the hierarchy 36|00:04:19|160|00:04:20|460of solar angels? 37|00:04:20|660|00:04:29|420Now the higher mental plane is not the true plane of the solar angels or Agnishvatas. 38|00:04:30|520|00:04:35|460It is the plane of service, we might say. 39|00:04:36|320|00:04:44|440A truer plane for the Agnishvatas will be the Buddhic plane and perhaps a still higher 40|00:04:44|440|00:04:45|260plane. 41|00:04:46|520|00:04:56|340They were, we learn, initiates of the previous solar system—human initiates in the previous 42|00:04:56|340|00:04:58|980solar system and are initiates of all degrees. 43|00:04:59|860|00:05:07|420Does this mean that they rose in their higher nature from off the cosmic physical plane? 44|00:05:09|770|00:05:16|440Were there five planes active in that previous embryonic solar system, and if so did they 45|00:05:16|440|00:05:17|760rise to the very top? 46|00:05:18|680|00:05:22|560Do they have a place on the cosmic astral plane? 47|00:05:22|560|00:05:26|460You see, one of the things we have to look at when we look at this table of creative 48|00:05:26|460|00:05:37|780hierarchies is that the plane given for a particular hierarchy is its plane of service 49|00:05:37|780|00:05:41|260expression, and not the plane of its monad. 50|00:05:42|840|00:05:59|360Now, if we find that monads all dwell on monadic sub-planes of a particular cosmic plane, then 51|00:05:59|810|00:06:05|820we find the human monad dwelling really on the second sub-plane, though its plane of 52|00:06:05|820|00:06:07|820expression will be the Buddhic plane. 53|00:06:08|060|00:06:16|440This inclines us to believe that the superior hierarchies to the human have their monads 54|00:06:17|380|00:06:24|600not on the cosmic physical plane at all, but on the cosmic astral plane. 55|00:06:25|440|00:06:32|720Let's see if I can… I think what I should have here is this should be made available: 56|00:06:32|720|00:06:44|580let's see, Fellowship of Cosmic Fire, and yes, Diagrams, and Chart Number 5 should perhaps 57|00:06:44|580|00:06:53|880always be made available, because on it… Okay now, do appear, looks like it's going to appear 58|00:06:53|880|00:06:54|680any minute now. 59|00:06:55|440|00:07:07|900On this super cosmic physical plane, or list of seven cosmic planes, we could imagine that 60|00:07:07|900|00:07:18|420higher hierarchies than the human would have their monadic presence not on the cosmic physical 61|00:07:18|420|00:07:23|380plane, but here on the second level of the cosmic astral plane, or on the second level 62|00:07:23|380|00:07:27|340of the cosmic mental plane, and so forth. 63|00:07:29|360|00:07:37|960A being such as a solar Logos, or even a planetary Logos, which has its causal body on the second, 64|00:07:38|000|00:07:53|360third, or fourth sub-level of the cosmic mental plane would have its monadic point on the… 65|00:07:53|880|00:08:03|820Yeah, the planetary Logoi of all kinds and solar Logoi are in creative hierarchies that 66|00:08:03|820|00:08:08|200are much higher than the creative hierarchies which we are studying. 67|00:08:09|460|00:08:21|980So anyway, back to this: we will have much of real enigma appearing as we study the fifth 68|00:08:21|980|00:08:29|100creative hierarchy, because it is a hierarchy of sacrificial service, a hierarchy of fallen 69|00:08:29|100|00:08:36|340angels who have in a way fallen into the dense physical body of the solar Logos for purposes 70|00:08:36|340|00:08:49|480of service, though their real plane, the plane of their higher expression, would not be so 71|00:08:49|480|00:08:55|400far away from the body of the solar Logos, and their higher principles altogether could 72|00:08:55|400|00:08:59|200well be found on the cosmic astral plane. 73|00:08:59|380|00:09:01|680I'm thinking about what it takes to become a solar angel. 74|00:09:03|400|00:09:11|540We have to journey on the path to Sirius where we are taught the methods of solar angelic 75|00:09:11|540|00:09:17|760function, and that path to Sirius, the fourth cosmic path, leads to the cosmic astral plane. 76|00:09:17|760|00:09:23|940Well, what aspect of the human being who is becoming a solar angel is going to the cosmic 77|00:09:23|940|00:09:24|480astral plane? 78|00:09:24|580|00:09:29|220Well, you have to be a sixth degree initiate to travel, and if you are a sixth degree initiate, 79|00:09:29|420|00:09:36|660you are a fully aware monad, polarized in your monadic vehicle. 80|00:09:37|800|00:09:47|740So it becomes pretty obvious in that respect that the monadic level of the cosmic astral— 81|00:09:47|760|00:09:57|500fifth creative hierarchy is indeed located on the cosmic astral plane, and not on the 82|00:09:57|500|00:10:03|420cosmic physical plane, the way the human hierarchy of monads is located. 83|00:10:04|420|00:10:07|700I hope that that is somewhat clear. 84|00:10:07|860|00:10:17|740I mean, this position of the solar angels, at least in some expressive aspect, on the 85|00:10:17|760|00:10:27|740mental plane represents a very great sacrifice, a fall, a descent, far below their true status 86|00:10:27|740|00:10:31|280achieved in a previous solar system. 87|00:10:32|860|00:10:39|400Their numbers: okay, ten, five, and three, and this number five of course correlates 88|00:10:39|930|00:10:47|740them with the fifth creative hierarchy, which is also located on the cosmic physical plane, 89|00:10:47|760|00:10:49|420almost liberated. 90|00:10:50|700|00:10:57|900So they are considered prototypical in relation to the fivefold deities. 91|00:10:58|520|00:11:07|900What I'll have to do actually is get out a list of names of the solar angels, which are 92|00:11:08|780|00:11:10|240very revelatory. 93|00:11:10|320|00:11:11|620I have such a list somewhere. 94|00:11:12|300|00:11:16|420I'll take a little break at some point and pull that out. 95|00:11:16|960|00:11:20|240We go on to the sixth creative hierarchy of lunar lords. 96|00:11:21|180|00:11:30|700Their number is eleven, and, you know, that will immediately relate them to the number 97|00:11:30|700|00:11:40|940eleven of unity through effort here on the unmanifested or on the cosmic astral planes. 98|00:11:40|940|00:11:46|120We can relate numbers up and numbers down, and we will find a connection. 99|00:11:47|060|00:11:53|460We will also find a connection between the fifth creative hierarchy ruled by ray five. 100|00:11:54|320|00:11:56|800The numbers here are exactly the same. 101|00:11:58|220|00:12:00|320It's the third creative hierarchy. 102|00:12:00|920|00:12:02|680It is unmanifested. 103|00:12:03|120|00:12:07|480Its ray is ray five, and its number up is ten, and you will recognize that those are 104|00:12:07|480|00:12:13|460exactly the same numbers, three, five, and ten, as are found in this fifth creative hierarchy, 105|00:12:13|520|00:12:16|500which is manifested: three, five, and ten. 106|00:12:17|760|00:12:29|320So the lines of relationship between these lives can be analogized, or the lines of relationship 107|00:12:29|940|00:12:35|740will reveal a special kind of connection, which is not easy perhaps to understand, because 108|00:12:35|740|00:12:41|240we simply don't understand the functions of the higher hierarchies, but those are lines 109|00:12:41|240|00:12:43|820of connection which can be traced. 110|00:12:44|040|00:12:51|060And because the sixth ray is here, the sixth ray of the lunar lords, therefore the sixth 111|00:12:51|060|00:12:56|140ray of the Gemini hierarchy will be implicated, and notice the idea of desire. 112|00:12:57|400|00:13:04|600Desire for duality is stimulated from the Gemini level of the cosmic astral plane, and 113|00:13:04|990|00:13:12|040we have the lunar lords below who are ruled by the sixth ray, and also powerfully by the 114|00:13:12|040|00:13:14|420principle of desire. 115|00:13:15|560|00:13:19|600They are known as sacrificial fires. 116|00:13:20|680|00:13:22|200Sagittarius is suggested. 117|00:13:22|940|00:13:31|800Ara, the altar, which is one of the constellations associated with Sagittarius, is also suggested. 118|00:13:31|800|00:13:44|740The burning of the lunar vehicles in sacrifice upon the altar, which orients them in fiery 119|00:13:44|740|00:13:46|240aspiration towards the soul. 120|00:13:48|020|00:13:49|880The hierarchical ruler is Mars. 121|00:13:50|100|00:13:57|420The color of Mars is red, and this is one of the colors of the sixth ray, along with 122|00:13:58|420|00:14:06|360rose color and light blue, but it is, say, a cruder color and relates this Martian sixth 123|00:14:06|360|00:14:08|260ray to the first ray, red. 124|00:14:09|640|00:14:11|580Kundalini Shakti is its power. 125|00:14:11|760|00:14:21|000It is a power of aspirational ascent through matter towards the altar, towards the crown. 126|00:14:21|660|00:14:32|120Energy of matter form, and its nature is water, interestingly, very much like the water of 127|00:14:32|120|00:14:41|700the atomic plane, suggesting a relationship, which we know does exist, between will and 128|00:14:41|700|00:14:46|820desire, atomic will and astral desire. 129|00:14:47|940|00:14:50|560The numbers here are eleven, six and two. 130|00:14:50|720|00:14:56|840It's interesting that the eleven, in a way, sums to a two, so we certainly have the second 131|00:14:56|840|00:15:00|780line rays particularly involved. 132|00:15:01|820|00:15:08|920This is just, at first, a superficial look at the numbers and some associated ideas. 133|00:15:09|320|00:15:16|800Probably everything we say can lead more deeply to the idea of the first ray, and the second 134|00:15:18|300|00:15:19|420into exposition. 135|00:15:20|360|00:15:27|160The Tibetan perhaps suggested the gathering of these details. 136|00:15:27|740|00:15:29|860Perhaps it is Alice Bailey who had to gather them. 137|00:15:29|940|00:15:34|540I don't know whether he dictated this chart or not. 138|00:15:34|620|00:15:39|160He seemed to indicate that it had been gathered from a number of sources. 139|00:15:40|900|00:15:50|940Anyway, the purpose is to transform the activity of the desire of the lunar lords into the 140|00:15:50|940|00:15:58|320energy of love, and this, the hierarchy, the number eleven, interestingly enough, the number 141|00:15:58|320|00:16:01|240of the initiate, the hierarchy undertakes. 142|00:16:01|400|00:16:06|920This is the number of the sign Aquarius, eleven. 143|00:16:07|620|00:16:14|320And, under the hierarchy, the transformation of desire into love does occur. 144|00:16:15|900|00:16:22|360In a way, what we have is the number six moving to the number two. 145|00:16:23|060|00:16:36|900Eventually, as the usual status of the astral plane, its usual actuality, its actuality 146|00:16:36|920|00:16:43|280is apparent reality, is negated, and the energy of love is substituted. 147|00:16:45|340|00:16:50|240He will say more, but not so very much, about these hierarchies. 148|00:16:52|100|00:16:56|720There is, and this is interesting, you know, where do these lunar lords come from? 149|00:16:58|360|00:17:06|900We can say that they are forms of life that are found initially on the moon chain, and 150|00:17:07|760|00:17:17|320that when there was a moon chain failure, and the moon chain lord, in a way, was subsumed 151|00:17:17|320|00:17:24|320or gathered into the field of expression of the earth chain lord, with both of them now 152|00:17:25|380|00:17:32|700active upon our fourth, upon and within our fourth chain, then some of these forms of 153|00:17:32|700|00:17:42|100life that were indigenous to the moon chain manifestation were moved, were transferred, 154|00:17:43|140|00:17:49|680into our fourth chain, where they would undergo their evolution. 155|00:17:50|700|00:17:57|020And they have a special evolution in relation to the animal and the human kingdom. 156|00:17:57|020|00:18:07|760So, they are perhaps a little bit out of place when it comes to fourth chain lives, and this 157|00:18:07|760|00:18:18|440we will see when we look at the treatise on cosmic fire, page 844. 158|00:18:18|440|00:18:32|480Therefore, we will see here that lunar pitris can enter human evolution, but they are not 159|00:18:32|480|00:18:41|020exactly in line with the animal, vegetable and mineral evolution of our particular chain. 160|00:18:41|200|00:18:48|420They have come in, as it were, from the side, and they will be, they will be, they will 161|00:18:49|360|00:18:57|820be, their destiny is to become men. Let's see if I can make this a little, the zoom 162|00:18:57|820|00:19:05|440is just a little bit big, so if I bring it down a bit we might be able to read the whole 163|00:19:05|440|00:19:18|420thing. Their destiny is to become men, now it's a little bit small for you I think. Let's 164|00:19:19|320|00:19:25|720see, they will in their higher grades pass directly into the animal evolution. So here 165|00:19:25|720|00:19:29|280they, you know there's no true place for them, they will actually in their higher grades 166|00:19:29|880|00:19:36|320pass into the animal evolution which apparently is below them. The animal evolution of the 167|00:19:36|320|00:19:43|640next cycle, and so eventually individualize as human beings. The three higher grades will 168|00:19:43|640|00:19:52|660become animal men, and the lower four will contribute to the quaternary forms of the men 169|00:19:52|660|00:20:03|340of the next creation. And what we have, what we have here is an evolution which has come 170|00:20:03|340|00:20:10|240from the moon chain which has a chance to integrate into our usual method of rising 171|00:20:10|240|00:20:17|160into the human kingdom, namely passing through the mineral, vegetable and animal kingdom. 172|00:20:17|420|00:20:23|860So the lunar lords ruled by Mars have a very close connection to the animal kingdom which 173|00:20:23|860|00:20:37|320is also ruled by Mars. And this form of subconscious life, shall we say non-individualized life, 174|00:20:37|320|00:20:45|160will become animal men and will be individualized. And let's see, the three great animal men 175|00:20:45|160|00:20:52|440and they will find their individualization, yes, and the lower forms will take forms of 176|00:20:52|440|00:20:59|480the lunar pitris of the men of the next creation which will be perhaps a higher type of pitri 177|00:20:59|960|00:21:06|940expression and they eventually will individualize as well. So really on our particular chain, 178|00:21:06|940|00:21:17|300the earth chain, we have a two within one process operating. A lunar process, because it was 179|00:21:17|300|00:21:23|720incomplete, continues to operate within the fourth chain, and this contrast between the 180|00:21:23|720|00:21:30|140lunar tendency and the fourth chain tendency is causing a lot of conflict and a lot of 181|00:21:30|140|00:21:36|520friction and a kind of cleavage which must be solved. It's essentially a cleavage between 182|00:21:36|520|00:21:45|380the third ray which represents the lunar expression and the fourth ray second ray which represents 183|00:21:45|380|00:21:51|920expression in our fourth chain. This has to be bridged and one of the ways of bridging 184|00:21:51|920|00:21:59|840it is to master, is for us as human beings, to master our lunar tendencies so they do 185|00:21:59|840|00:22:08|840not simply repeat themselves as they did in a previous time to no good end, to a chaotic 186|00:22:08|840|00:22:16|460end. They have to be subdued and regulated, brought under Saturn, brought under the law, 187|00:22:16|680|00:22:25|020brought under the spiritual will, which is our monadic and soul intention. Ok, that was 188|00:22:25|020|00:22:40|500a little diversion I guess, and just pause here. Ok, we will then continue with our examination 189|00:22:40|500|00:22:48|420of this chart. The twelfth creative hierarchy, which is really the seventh ruled by the seventh 190|00:22:48|420|00:22:56|620ray, has naturally a relationship to the Kumarian hierarchy, which is almost liberated and also 191|00:22:56|620|00:23:04|420ruled by the seventh ray. Interestingly, all of these hierarchies are part of what's called 192|00:23:04|420|00:23:15|920here the seven states of being under karmic law. Karmic law is particularly administered 193|00:23:16|620|00:23:23|760by the energies of the planet Saturn, which in a way rule the entire cosmic physical plane, 194|00:23:24|600|00:23:31|800Saturn being a correspondence in some sense to the permanent atom, the physical permanent 195|00:23:31|800|00:23:38|360atom of the Logos. It also has chakric correspondences and trying to sort out what is the difference 196|00:23:38|360|00:23:45|900between a permanent atom correspondence and a chakric correspondence is a, it's a very 197|00:23:45|920|00:23:54|240demanding exercise. Anyway, all of these are under karmic law and when we reach the cosmic 198|00:23:54|240|00:24:01|960astral plane we are apparently liberated from that Saturnian influence. These are called 199|00:24:01|960|00:24:06|260elemental lives, the baskets of nourishment, they are called the blinded lives, and I think 200|00:24:06|260|00:24:13|540we can think of them as the life of matter. These are the lives expressing themselves 201|00:24:13|540|00:24:22|420through the molecules, through the atoms, through the atoms of all greater and lesser 202|00:24:22|420|00:24:31|800kinds, perhaps through subatomic particles and so forth. They are the tiniest lives and 203|00:24:31|800|00:24:40|420need to be aggregated into form according to higher directives which serve higher energy 204|00:24:40|420|00:24:50|600patterns. Interestingly they are under a sign Aquarius which related to Uranus which 205|00:24:50|600|00:24:57|240is veiled by the moon has much to do with atomic energy and the power that is latent 206|00:24:57|240|00:25:08|580in matter. Of course Aquarius would appear again, twelve cosmic subplanes up would appear 207|00:25:08|580|00:25:14|940again on the second level of the cosmic astral plane, but that's a whole different study 208|00:25:14|940|00:25:22|300difficult to verify. The moon is the ruler and interestingly enough its color here is 209|00:25:22|300|00:25:31|100violet. Now the violet color will associate it with Uranus, the seventh ray planet, and 210|00:25:31|100|00:25:38|560Uranus is also the major planet of the etheric planes. The etheric planes are the major planets 211|00:25:42|180|00:25:46|860in a systemic sense and the etheric planes in a cosmic sense. So we would say then that 212|00:25:46|860|00:25:52|540Uranus, the violet planet is veiled by the moon, but the moon has a lot to do with the 213|00:25:52|540|00:25:59|440color violet as well. Its particular rhythms suggest the seventh ray and we certainly measure 214|00:26:00|300|00:26:08|560time and cycles by the moon, the seventh ray, and the Tibetan gave the color Uranus, the 215|00:26:08|580|00:26:17|020moon, of Cancer which is ruled by the moon as the color violet. We are told here that 216|00:26:17|020|00:26:22|820it has no kind of energy, but later we will discover when the Tibetan is talking about 217|00:26:22|820|00:26:31|940this seventh manifested creative hierarchy that there is a type of life energy associated 218|00:26:32|660|00:26:39|080with it. So that's what I mean: this table was gathered. It's a very good table, but 219|00:26:39|080|00:26:46|660it's not a table which the Tibetan dictated in a systematic manner. So we will have to 220|00:26:47|300|00:26:53|920judge whether there is any type of energy here at all according to what he says when 221|00:26:53|920|00:27:01|380he discusses the seventh creative hierarchy of the manifested kind. We do remember that 222|00:27:01|380|00:27:08|200the moon at this point is said to have no radiation whatsoever, only a kind of negative 223|00:27:08|200|00:27:15|760energy which arises from its own decomposition. Maybe we shouldn't even call it an energy. 224|00:27:16|260|00:27:22|660So the idea of no energy rather fits with what the Tibetan says about the moon per se. 225|00:27:23|480|00:27:30|420But I think these elemental lives, there is the presence of buddhi at the heart of every 226|00:27:30|420|00:27:35|700atom in the solar system and I do think that presence will be found within these tiny lives 227|00:27:35|700|00:27:44|060as well. These lives are particularly related to the plane of Earth. Now when we talked 228|00:27:44|060|00:27:49|220about the four elements we looked at the etheric physical plane as associated with the element 229|00:27:49|220|00:27:58|540Earth, astral plane obviously with water, mental plane with fire. Air is not specified 230|00:27:58|540|00:28:05|540under the Buddhic plane but perhaps it should be, and then as well it would correlate with 231|00:28:05|540|00:28:14|760the fire air of the Logoic plane. The Buddhic plane is in a way a very solar plane because 232|00:28:14|760|00:28:27|440the Christ energy is expressing there with fair expansiveness, and that is a solar energy 233|00:28:27|440|00:28:35|760and thus there is a connection with the plane ruled by Leo, mainly the Logoic plane where 234|00:28:35|760|00:28:43|180the divine flames under Leo are expressing. These are two solar planes. In a way as well 235|00:28:44|120|00:28:53|340we could say that the monadic plane is also a solar, also a solar plane. Well that was 236|00:28:53|340|00:29:07|960a kind of a brief enumeration of the numbers that are found. We could draw lines, we should 237|00:29:07|960|00:29:14|260draw lines from every number to every other similar number and try to trace the connections 238|00:29:14|260|00:29:22|480but before we can really do that we have to have as clear an idea as possible as to the 239|00:29:22|480|00:29:26|420function of each one of these hierarchies on each one of these levels and I would say 240|00:29:27|000|00:29:34|840that most of us, and I include myself here, do not have that kind of specific knowledge 241|00:29:35|440|00:29:43|700using the fifth ray which would make it even more profitable to draw the lines of relationship. 242|00:29:43|900|00:29:50|380Though sometimes drawing lines of relationship and seeing the analogies which result from 243|00:29:50|940|00:30:02|680those lines can clarify the specific function of a specific group on a specific plane. So 244|00:30:02|680|00:30:10|280you know there is a lot of research that is needed here researching the kinds of energies 245|00:30:10|280|00:30:19|800which go into each one of these hierarchies. I was just looking at iccha shakti, iccha 246|00:30:21|360|00:30:29|500shakti, probably terribly wrong in the pronunciation, but this is a power of I-ness. I couldn't 247|00:30:29|500|00:30:35|220help but notice that the word ich in German means I, although it's probably a very tenuous 248|00:30:35|220|00:30:40|640connection, and we know that the petals of the egoic lotus on the higher mental plane 249|00:30:41|100|00:30:50|360are imbued with a quality of energy which makes consciousness realise I-ness. That is 250|00:30:50|380|00:30:57|540which turns consciousness around upon the centre from which the consciousness arises 251|00:30:58|000|00:31:06|300and gives the feeling or the sense of, I don't know quite how to say it, of being a distinct 252|00:31:06|300|00:31:13|260centre. And then that distinct centre begins to manifest as a distinct personality centre 253|00:31:13|930|00:31:23|220which is very limited by that sense of I-ness. In other words it becomes separative. But 254|00:31:23|220|00:31:30|160eventually there is a return to the I-ness of the higher mental plane as the soul infuses 255|00:31:30|160|00:31:38|280the personality and then the quality of group consciousness arises and freedom is on its 256|00:31:38|280|00:31:46|140way through these higher shaktis, these higher energies. So there is so much correlating 257|00:31:46|140|00:31:51|280to be done here and I think it's only possible to scratch the surface, especially you know 258|00:31:51|840|00:31:57|540if I were writing a book on this subject. Well this turns out I suppose to be my astrology 259|00:31:57|540|00:32:08|080book because it's always so hard to find time to write in great detail when there are 260|00:32:08|080|00:32:15|200writing. I suppose I could be more exacting in clarifying the nature of these factors 261|00:32:15|200|00:32:22|820and their relationships. But somewhat speaking these books there will be perhaps less precision 262|00:32:22|820|00:32:31|280along those lines though ideas may emerge which others can follow and elaborate. Alright 263|00:32:31|280|00:32:38|500so we've looked at the table of unmanifested creative hierarchies or at least they're 264|00:32:38|500|00:32:43|440manifesting on the cosmic astral plane but not on the cosmic physical plane along with 265|00:32:43|440|00:32:50|400one intermediary hierarchy which appears to be manifesting on both planes and is located 266|00:32:52|520|00:32:58|900probably in the etheric nature of the Logoic plane. And then we've looked at the seven 267|00:33:01|280|00:33:07|000invested creative hierarchies. Usually when you have the numbers seven and five, seven 268|00:33:07|000|00:33:14|280are sacred and five are non-sacred, but everything can reverse itself, and this is a point in 269|00:33:14|280|00:33:19|920relation to these two charts. The five above are the most sacred and the seven are the 270|00:33:19|920|00:33:25|040least sacred. I pointed this same thing out when we dealt with the four and the three. 271|00:33:25|740|00:33:32|940Sometimes four is more, represents states that are more sacred than the three, and sometimes 272|00:33:32|940|00:33:39|080three more sacred than the four. So it's all a question of context, and you have to turn 273|00:33:39|080|00:33:49|180things in various directions in order to understand which has priority. The whole question of 274|00:33:49|180|00:33:55|680priority, solving the problem of priority or that which comes first and that which is 275|00:33:55|680|00:34:07|200highest in a hierarchical universe is of extreme importance. We have to know what is greater 276|00:34:07|200|00:34:18|520and what is lesser, and so often our glamours, our distorted desires arise because we mis-evaluate 277|00:34:18|520|00:34:27|380priority. We do not know that which is of the highest nature and that which is lower 278|00:34:27|380|00:34:33|480than it, and thus we begin to desire that which is lower and exaggerate its importance as 279|00:34:33|480|00:34:42|720if it were prior and hierarchically in a higher position. This is a great mistake, but if Libra 280|00:34:43|400|00:34:49|560can begin to operate in our consciousness in the right way and Capricorn too, and Venus 281|00:34:49|560|00:34:57|460too, we will develop a true sense of proportion, and we will thereby develop a true sense of 282|00:34:57|460|00:35:04|140values. Venus is involved in the question of values, and we will desire that which is 283|00:35:04|140|00:35:12|700higher over that which is lower, and then our desire nature will be hierarchalized. And 284|00:35:12|720|00:35:24|240thereby will not be afflicted by the problem of glamour. So many of us right now are living 285|00:35:24|240|00:35:31|040in a distorted world where we seem to desire that which is of lesser value, and we are convinced 286|00:35:31|040|00:35:37|500it is of greater value. And only, maybe in the words of Master Morya, cosmic perception 287|00:35:37|500|00:35:44|940will wear away this distortion, just as he tells us it will wear away irritation. In 288|00:35:44|940|00:35:52|140other words, it will overcome the exaggerating tendencies of Mars, and we will see in the 289|00:35:52|140|00:35:53|680light of true proportion. 290|00:35:54|680|00:36:03|680Okay, now the following tabulation, and that's the one which we have been examining, showing 291|00:36:03|680|00:36:09|200some astrological relationships in connection with the constellation of the Great Bear, 292|00:36:09|440|00:36:14|500the Pleiades, or the Seven Sisters, Sirius and the Seven Solar Systems, and I have a 293|00:36:14|500|00:36:24|140feeling that what we're going to have to do is put this tabulation of two sets of creative 294|00:36:24|140|00:36:33|660hierarchies together with the tabulation on page 50 of Esoteric Astrology, which will truly 295|00:36:35|060|00:36:46|060begin to connect some of these creative hierarchical factors with the constellations which were 296|00:36:46|060|00:36:52|540just mentioned, which are the great sources. And I think you see it, we'll see it here. 297|00:36:55|900|00:36:59|500Whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops. Trees in Cosmic Fire, how did that happen? 298|00:37:00|180|00:37:07|600We want, not trees in Cosmic Fire, we want Esoteric Astrology on page 50. Yes, that's 299|00:37:07|600|00:37:14|960what we want. And you see this tabulation number 3, how it deals with Sirius in relation 300|00:37:14|960|00:37:26|420to astrological factors and to the fifth creative hierarchy, which is the almost liberated hierarchy. 301|00:37:26|620|00:37:35|040You see how the Great Bear is related to Aries and Libra and to the Sun-veiling Vulcan indeed. 302|00:37:35|860|00:37:42|520And to the second creative hierarchy, the eleventh, it's under Aries, but at the same 303|00:37:42|520|00:37:49|100time we cannot leave out the hierarchy that is correlated with Libra, which is the eighth 304|00:37:49|100|00:37:54|740counting down or the third manifested creative hierarchy. And since the Sun is veiling Vulcan, 305|00:37:54|740|00:37:59|760we have to draw a line of relationship to the first manifested creative hierarchy ruled 306|00:37:59|760|00:38:06|740by Leo. Interestingly enough with the Great Bear, you know, if you look at the dipper 307|00:38:08|400|00:38:13|020of the Great Bear and lower your eyesight just a little bit in a parallel manner, you 308|00:38:13|020|00:38:23|300will come to the constellation Leo. And when it comes to the Pleiades, we see them related 309|00:38:23|300|00:38:34|120to Gemini and Sagittarius and to the Gemini hierarchy, yes, and therefore to the fourth 310|00:38:34|120|00:38:39|000liberated creative hierarchy which is ruled by Gemini, but then we would also have to 311|00:38:39|000|00:38:44|480bring in the Lunar Lords which are ruled by Sagittarius. I think you see what I mean. 312|00:38:46|180|00:38:57|420Here is the Gemini hierarchy. It is the fourth ruled by the sixth ray, but if we look for 313|00:38:57|420|00:39:03|120the Sagittarius hierarchy we come down here to the eleventh, interestingly with that number 314|00:39:03|120|00:39:10|260eleven being quite a bit like Gemini. Anyway, you see how I'm suggesting that we draw lines 315|00:39:10|260|00:39:15|280of relationship in order to interpret. All the above energies, we're reading from page 316|00:39:15|280|00:39:20|040fifty of Esoteric Astrology and we will of course visit this page, are called into play 317|00:39:20|040|00:39:25|240as far as man is concerned during the major initiations and upon the path of initiation. 318|00:39:25|480|00:39:31|400So in other words, Sirius, the Great Bear and the Pleiades are beginning to be sensed following 319|00:39:32|260|00:39:39|580the third initiation, and only minimally so at that point, because they mean a lot more 320|00:39:39|580|00:39:46|840to still higher initiates than they can mean to the third-degree initiate who is just becoming 321|00:39:47|680|00:39:57|440a disciple in relation to the Sirian regime, or to the star Sirius, or the Sirian Logos. 322|00:39:57|640|00:40:05|360Then we have lesser energies, magnetic energies giving solar fire, and these are the seven 323|00:40:05|360|00:40:10|300solar systems. And one of my— I think what I'm going to say now is important. You know, 324|00:40:11|140|00:40:17|820there's been this ongoing debate as to whether the seven solar systems represent vast constellations 325|00:40:17|820|00:40:24|120which are chakras and the One About Whom None May Be Said, or whether they are simply not 326|00:40:24|120|00:40:31|080constellational but are in fact seven solar systems organized into one constellation. 327|00:40:31|720|00:40:42|520Now there's no question about it: if we look here, we see that the dynamic energy, the energy 328|00:40:42|520|00:40:47|420of will and of the monad, is connected with the first three; but the energy of soul is 329|00:40:47|420|00:40:56|260connected with the seven solar systems. It is magnetic energy; it is hierarchically a 330|00:40:56|260|00:41:09|960lesser energy. It is not the kind of superior energy you would expect to find in the great 331|00:41:09|960|00:41:15|420chakras—all seven of them, as far as that goes—of the One About Whom None May Be Said, 332|00:41:15|420|00:41:23|020but you would expect this magnetic energy to be found in relation to solar Logoi. This 333|00:41:23|020|00:41:30|180is related to the Taurus hierarchy, this energy of the seven solar systems, and also to our 334|00:41:30|700|00:41:37|480humanity. We are supposed to become a station of light; our human hierarchy is to become 335|00:41:37|480|00:41:44|300a great station of light. So our Scorpio hierarchy is definitely related to Taurus as it is expressed 336|00:41:44|300|00:41:50|320through Mars. Now whether the seven solar systems should be looked at in terms of a 337|00:41:50|320|00:41:57|220solar plexus response or a sacral response, this still has to be discussed; but what I'm 338|00:41:57|220|00:42:04|120trying to express is that they are hierarchically lower than the three great constellations, 339|00:42:06|100|00:42:13|860and if you normally talk about seven solar systems being seven great constellations which 340|00:42:13|860|00:42:18|480are chakras and the One About Whom None May Be Said, you would include the three that are 341|00:42:18|480|00:42:27|700above; but obviously the three that are above are distinct from these seven. So I think 342|00:42:27|700|00:42:33|680there is a good case for looking at them as expressing soul energy and not the dynamic 343|00:42:33|680|00:42:39|400energy of the One About Whom None May Be Said, but rather a type of energy which is found 344|00:42:39|400|00:42:46|160in one of the chakras of the One About Whom None May Be Said—namely, a cosmic Logos in 345|00:42:46|160|00:42:55|980which our Sun and our solar Logos finds its place as a heart center. Alright, that's a— 346|00:42:55|980|00:43:02|040you know, a little bit of a technical thing, but again it's a question of prioritization 347|00:43:02|040|00:43:10|640and hierarchicalization. What is higher than what? What is lower than what? In a way, of 348|00:43:10|640|00:43:15|680course, everything is equal, because there is only one being manifesting through different 349|00:43:15|680|00:43:22|760dimensions; but when we get into the level of categorizing the manifestations of the 350|00:43:22|760|00:43:29|540only one thing, we do have to hierarchicalize; we do have to do that. Alright, now let's see 351|00:43:29|540|00:43:39|880where we are taken. What I did here was I took a little trip over to page 50 of Esoteric 352|00:43:39|880|00:43:47|260Astrology, because I saw that it was pointing out the connection of these constellations 353|00:43:47|760|00:43:55|220and the seven solar systems with the information that is given in the two creative hierarchy 354|00:43:55|220|00:44:03|840charts, and you wouldn't have that without the map on page 50. So we went to page 50 355|00:44:03|840|00:44:16|040of Esoteric Astrology to detect some of the relationships suggested. Now you know you 356|00:44:16|040|00:44:24|540can obviously tell that—you know you can tell that we're doing this a little superficially, 357|00:44:25|940|00:44:32|880because you could spend the rest of your life in this incarnation, and maybe others, on these 358|00:44:32|880|00:44:39|800tabulations and associated charts, because they lay out in tabular form, in graphic form, 359|00:44:40|740|00:44:48|880truths which are barely suspected by us with our human mind. Alright, so we have studied 360|00:44:48|880|00:44:56|560page 34 and 35, which are the tabulations of creative hierarchies, and now we get into the 361|00:44:56|560|00:45:10|040text related to those tabulations. So he gives some general statements about creative hierarchies. 362|00:45:10|040|00:45:17|380And we will have to be slow and cautious in trying to divine some of the implications. 363|00:45:18|120|00:45:26|5401. The Hierarchy of Creative Powers is divided esoterically into seven (4 and 3) 364|00:45:26|560|00:45:34|940within the Twelve Great Orders. Now here we're talking about the manifested creative 365|00:45:35|000|00:45:47|180hierarchies. The manifested creative hierarchies with four above which are self-conscious and 366|00:45:47|180|00:45:56|540three below which are not yet individualized. When we talk about the twelve great orders, 367|00:45:56|560|00:46:04|420when we come to the hierarchy of solar angels, the idea of a dual hierarchy is very much 368|00:46:04|420|00:46:13|060pronounced here because perhaps there are certain lives here which are the lower part 369|00:46:13|060|00:46:22|200of this dual hierarchy which are not yet self-conscious, but the higher part which are the solar angels, 370|00:46:22|760|00:46:28|960the Agni Sivatas, the solar petries, all those names, are certainly self-conscious and far 371|00:46:28|960|00:46:33|800beyond that. They are group conscious; they are God conscious; they are initiates of a 372|00:46:33|800|00:46:38|300previous solar system. So I think what he's doing is dividing these manifested creative 373|00:46:38|300|00:46:45|280hierarchies into four groups which are definitely self-conscious and into three groups which 374|00:46:46|120|00:46:54|940are not. But as I say, the solar angel is in an ambiguous position and why this should 375|00:46:54|940|00:47:01|180be a dual hierarchy, one symbolized by the upright pentagram and the other by the inverted 376|00:47:01|180|00:47:08|160pentagram associated with black magic and the concrete mind, all of that has to be clarified. 377|00:47:09|020|00:47:18|160All right, now twelve great orders. Now a hierarchy of creative powers, what does that mean? What 378|00:47:18|160|00:47:23|200are the creative powers? This is a creative hierarchies of monads; that's what they are. 379|00:47:23|860|00:47:34|960The lives expressing within these hierarchies are monadic lives at different stages of pre-critic 380|00:47:34|960|00:47:45|260immersion or immersion into matter. Essentially, as monads they are all equivalent because 381|00:47:45|260|00:47:51|240there is only one monad in all of cosmos. A monad is a monad; it is pure being. But 382|00:47:51|240|00:48:00|400in terms of the sheaths aggregated around the monad, these are sheaths of relatively 383|00:48:00|400|00:48:08|720greater or lesser density, and that is what seems to define the status of a monad. Although 384|00:48:08|720|00:48:13|240all monads are equivalent, they are all on the level, as it were; they are all equal. 385|00:48:14|020|00:48:21|800All monads are created equal. All men are certainly not created equal; they are created 386|00:48:21|800|00:48:28|660equal in the monadic sense, but they certainly do not manifest equally. So these creative 387|00:48:28|660|00:48:39|140powers are hierarchies of monads, and of course this continues with hierarchies far beyond 388|00:48:39|140|00:48:46|700the divine orders, beyond the twelve which we are now considering. Why are we considering 389|00:48:46|700|00:48:52|560only twelve? Well, you know, we can barely make sense of twelve, so I am sure the Tibetan 390|00:48:52|560|00:49:01|460necessarily draws a limit there, because otherwise we would be into useless speculation as far 391|00:49:01|460|00:49:09|220as we are concerned, and maybe we are there already. 2. Three Hierarchies are—in 392|00:49:09|220|00:49:20|060this greater cycle— And what might that be? It could be the cycle of the Solar Logos in 393|00:49:20|060|00:49:27|380this incarnation, perhaps, are of profound significance, And if we say profound significance 394|00:49:27|380|00:49:32|880and think of the creative hierarchies as systemic, solar systemic beings, then it has to be profound 395|00:49:32|880|00:49:41|760significance to the solar system, not just to man. the fourth or human Creative Hierarchy 396|00:49:42|060|00:49:50|040that's our Creative Hierarchy, which is probably the means by which the tendencies of the previous 397|00:49:50|060|00:49:59|520solar system, which are very Brahmic and material and mental, are brought together with the tendencies 398|00:49:59|520|00:50:07|480of our present solar system in which the divine ray of love-wisdom is to emerge. and the two 399|00:50:07|480|00:50:13|580deva Hierarchies, we have to, as I said before, some of these are, what can I call 400|00:50:13|580|00:50:22|220it, mannish Hierarchies or having to do with man as an entity and all of the types of men 401|00:50:22|220|00:50:28|900there are from the tiny human being all the way up to the heavenly man and the grand heavenly 402|00:50:28|900|00:50:38|040man and the super grand heavenly man and on and on. There are these Hierarchies which 403|00:50:38|040|00:50:43|160relate to man and Hierarchies which relate to devas, and the fifth and the sixth. so four, 404|00:50:43|160|00:50:52|320five and six, they are contiguous Hierarchies, are of profound significance. Probably the 405|00:50:53|380|00:51:02|420deva Hierarchy, the fifth Hierarchy of solar angels, the great redeeming lords of love, 406|00:51:02|800|00:51:10|940are that magnetic force which is drawing together the Hierarchies which are connected with the 407|00:51:10|940|00:51:21|500moon and the Hierarchy like the Hierarchy of human beings, fourth grade, which is supposed 408|00:51:21|500|00:51:30|320to pursue a Buddhic second solar system line of development. So somehow the fifth grade 409|00:51:30|320|00:51:35|800of hierarchy stands between them. There are these lunar lords which are carrying on a 410|00:51:35|800|00:51:43|280tendency not only from our previous solar, not only from our previous chain, the Moon 411|00:51:43|280|00:51:50|380chain, but from the previous solar system. It's a definitely third-ray tendency, the 412|00:51:50|380|00:51:59|800numbers three and six being very related. So that operates on the astral plane, but 413|00:51:59|800|00:52:05|340the human Hierarchy is meant to eventually operate on the Buddhic plane, and we know the 414|00:52:05|340|00:52:11|800astral Buddhic connection. And eventually the astral plane is to be suffused by the pure 415|00:52:11|800|00:52:18|420love of the Buddhic plane, and perhaps a man whose soul ray will one day be the second 416|00:52:18|420|00:52:26|600ray, expressing the sixth principle of Buddhic love, will be instrumental in helping that 417|00:52:27|460|00:52:35|320connection exist between these lower lunar forms and the Buddhically tending forms of 418|00:52:35|940|00:52:43|980our second solar system. And meanwhile, the solar angels are acting as a bridge because 419|00:52:43|980|00:52:50|680they have this full Buddhic love and they're teaching humanity how to possess it and how 420|00:52:51|500|00:52:59|280to express it. And one day we will, as it were, take over for the solar angels and be able 421|00:52:59|280|00:53:06|380to be the bridge ourselves. We are under the number four, and that is the bridging ray, 422|00:53:06|380|00:53:14|620and we will help to make a bridge between the lower tendencies inherited from the past 423|00:53:14|620|00:53:20|040and the tendencies which should be cultivated in the present. We will help the whole process 424|00:53:20|040|00:53:28|560move from the primordial ray of intelligence to the divine ray of love-wisdom. That word 425|00:53:28|560|00:53:33|400“divine” is very important. It usually indicates that the monad is involved, and the monad we 426|00:53:33|400|00:53:41|920realise is on the second sub-plane, connecting it with love-wisdom. So three hierarchies 427|00:53:41|920|00:53:47|680anyway are of the greatest significance and certainly of the greatest significance to 428|00:53:47|680|00:53:52|580man. Now, is this true throughout the solar system? Well, it's certainly true upon our 429|00:53:53|240|00:54:01|840planet, and we have to, since creative hierarchies are really a solar systemic expression, we 430|00:54:01|840|00:54:09|020have to think of them as having a systemic significance and that the things that are said 431|00:54:09|480|00:54:14|900here apply, of course, to our planet and maybe in a special way, but in a 432|00:54:14|900|00:54:22|560general way to the entire solar system, to the life of the Solar Logos. What I think 433|00:54:22|580|00:54:30|060I should do—it strikes me that I should gather some references about the creative hierarchies 434|00:54:32|240|00:54:38|800and perhaps read through them as supplemental material, because we're not really going to 435|00:54:38|800|00:54:45|560do this for Cosmic Fire. My commentaries on Cosmic Fire are perhaps nine-tenths completed, 436|00:54:46|200|00:54:53|580and probably I have written with greater clarity than I can speak, so there probably isn't much 437|00:54:53|580|00:55:00|780sense to try to repeat verbally what I've already written there. But there is sense 438|00:55:00|780|00:55:06|400in gathering certain significant references which we can append to what we are reading, 439|00:55:06|400|00:55:12|420and in a way this whole section on the creative hierarchies is taken out of Cosmic Fire. D.K. 440|00:55:12|420|00:55:17|060must have thought it was very important when considering the larger astrological picture. 441|00:55:19|100|00:55:24|8803. The fourth Creative Hierarchy is in reality the ninth and that is why it 442|00:55:24|880|00:55:28|460is called the Hierarchy of Initiates. Well, do we understand what he said there? Because 443|00:55:28|460|00:55:38|980nine is the number of initiation. And if we look at this, we will see the number nine 444|00:55:38|980|00:55:45|660is there—that's our human hierarchy—and the ray four and the number four. Well, nine, 445|00:55:45|660|00:55:51|200four, four—those are the numbers, and they are there. The Buddhic suggestion is very 446|00:55:51|200|00:56:00|800strong and the idea of being a true initiate in the second solar system is powerfully present. 447|00:56:01|120|00:56:06|220Maybe there were not nine initiations in the previous solar system. Maybe there were not 448|00:56:06|220|00:56:15|000even seven planes per se. Maybe in the previous solar system there were five planes, or at 449|00:56:15|000|00:56:19|700least five active planes; in the present solar system seven; in the future solar system nine. 450|00:56:20|960|00:56:29|080Those are the numbers of the three solar systems: five, seven, and nine; five and seven and twelve, 451|00:56:29|080|00:56:36|660and nine making twenty-one, and then the unity making twenty-two, which is the somehow very 452|00:56:36|660|00:56:42|880powerful number for Arsota Logos—the two and the two. Two plus two equals four. In 453|00:56:42|880|00:56:47|780a funny kind of way, Arsota Logos might have a fourth ray monad, or at least fourth ray 454|00:56:47|780|00:56:54|820sub-monad, and his secondary soul and secondary personality, two plus two, can combine and 455|00:56:54|820|00:57:00|400merge into his fourth ray monad. Though eventually I do think he will be two two two, and his 456|00:57:00|400|00:57:09|080higher monadic ray will be the second, eventually. Although perhaps in the next solar system 457|00:57:09|080|00:57:13|440What we'll be dealing with is two-two-one, because his personality ray will probably 458|00:57:13|440|00:57:20|280be the first ray. So the fourth creative hierarchy is, in reality—well, reality means you have 459|00:57:20|280|00:57:25|580to include the higher hierarchies and begin numbering from those higher hierarchies. So 460|00:57:25|580|00:57:29|740if we number from the unmanifested hierarchies and count down to the human, we will get the 461|00:57:29|740|00:57:38|320number nine, and it will show that we human beings are destined to complete—we are destined 462|00:57:38|790|00:57:48|360to complete nine initiations within the fourth creative hierarchy. D.K. tells us not all of 463|00:57:48|360|00:57:53|280us take those nine initiations, at least not immediately, at least in association with 464|00:57:53|280|00:57:58|880our planet. And then not all human beings take initiations anyway; many human 465|00:57:58|880|00:58:04|460beings rise with the rising of the kingdom itself and do not forge ahead on the arduous 466|00:58:04|460|00:58:11|580and independent path of initiation. But eventually we will be elevated to the point where we 467|00:58:11|580|00:58:21|680will be able to refuse our connection with the cosmic physical plane, at least in this 468|00:58:21|680|00:58:28|220solar system. Now if we return—many of us having taken the path to Sirius—in the next 469|00:58:28|220|00:58:34|140solar system and have to have a relationship with the cosmic physical plane, it will be 470|00:58:34|140|00:58:40|760for redemptive purposes and not because we are in any way trapped by the cosmic physical 471|00:58:40|760|00:58:46|820plane. Anyway, D.K. says yes, the relation of the nine and four That can be seen by referring 472|00:58:46|820|00:58:56|520to the chart. and this we have done. Okay, oh my goodness, I've been talking. Uh-oh, 473|00:58:57|620|00:59:07|280it's time now—I'm sorry, it's time for our Great Invocation because already 58 minutes 474|00:59:07|280|00:59:16|660have elapsed, and I don't want to get into that strange position. So this is the number 475|00:59:16|660|00:59:29|920EAA 15, June—oh, 28 June, 29 June, '11. Alright, let us have The Great Invocation then, and 476|00:59:29|920|00:59:35|480we will continue. Unfortunately I cannot continue immediately while I'm warmed up because of 477|00:59:35|480|00:59:43|360the technical problems involved in making this available to Mac viewers. But maybe a 478|00:59:43|360|00:59:48|440situation can be worked out—maybe with two computers, I don't know. Anyway, for the moment 479|00:59:48|440|01:00:04|040let us see The Great Invocation, and… okay. Oh, from the point of light within the mind 480|01:00:04|040|01:00:05|380of God, and we'll go together. 481|01:00:16|180|01:00:22|480From the point of light within the mind of God, let light stream forth into the minds 482|01:00:22|480|01:00:32|380of men. Let light descend on Earth. From the point of love within the heart of God, let 483|01:00:32|380|01:00:41|340love stream forth into the hearts of men. May Christ return to Earth. From the centre 484|01:00:41|340|01:00:47|720where the will of God is known, let purpose guide the little wills of men—the purpose 485|01:00:47|720|01:00:56|600which the Masters know and serve. From the centre which we call the race of men, let 486|01:00:56|600|01:01:04|860the plan of love and light work out, and may it seal the door where evil dwells. Let light 487|01:01:04|860|01:01:10|280and love and power restore the plan on Earth. 488|01:01:13|980|01:01:26|580Om. Om. Om. Om. Om. Om. Om. Om. Om. Om. Om. Om. Om. Om. Om. Om. Om. Om. Om. Om. Om. Om. 489|01:01:40|880|01:01:46|380Okay, everyone, we will be moving on, I think, to number 17. I guess this is number 16. We 490|01:01:46|380|01:01:52|240will be continuing with the Creative Hierarchies. We will certainly be on that for quite a while. 491|01:01:53|680|01:02:00|300So, okay, I'll be back to you as soon as I can, and I hope this is useful to you, and 492|01:02:00|300|01:02:04|520we will proceed. Many blessings; we'll see you soon.

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