1|00:00:04|100|00:00:14|840Hi everybody! We are going to go into Esoteric Astrology Adventure number 18, and we are 2|00:00:14|840|00:00:22|580talking about the creative hierarchies—a vast subject. I think it will take quite a 3|00:00:22|580|00:00:29|760few of our little one-hour tapes… or they're not tapes anymore, are they? 4|00:00:31|220|00:00:35|720They are electronic programs. 5|00:00:37|660|00:00:46|320We spoke about the function—the dual function of the creative hierarchies, that they have 6|00:00:46|320|00:00:52|900dual intermediary work, that they are mediators between spirit and matter, just the way the 7|00:00:52|900|00:01:04|840solar angels are, and as well that they are transmitters of force from sources extraneous 8|00:01:04|840|00:01:11|620to the solar system, such as the zodiacal constellations and also perhaps some of the 9|00:01:11|620|00:01:20|420greater constellations and the rays, which are emanating from the seven stars—for practical 10|00:01:20|420|00:01:28|160purposes of the Big Dipper—extraneous to the solar system, two forms within the solar 11|00:01:28|160|00:01:28|720system. 12|00:01:28|720|00:01:40|640They are building the forms of expression for themselves, for monads higher than themselves, 13|00:01:41|360|00:01:50|740and also they are aggregating around themselves those forms related to monads that are of 14|00:01:50|740|00:01:55|300lesser unfoldment than they are in most cases. 15|00:01:59|540|00:02:10|660Each of these groups of beings is likewise septenary in nature, and the 49 fires of Brahma 16|00:02:11|100|00:02:16|180are the lowest manifestation of their fiery nature. 17|00:02:17|700|00:02:29|600The septenary assignment to the hierarchies relates to their levels of form. 18|00:02:29|900|00:02:33|480Within every hierarchy there are seven levels of form. 19|00:02:33|980|00:02:36|160There are nine levels of consciousness. 20|00:02:36|160|00:02:46|260The 49 fires of Brahma are burning on the 49 sub-planes of the cosmic physical plane. 21|00:02:48|140|00:02:54|060The 49 fires are related to the third aspect particularly. 22|00:02:55|580|00:03:04|940There are seven great Brahmic poetic fires, there are seven ray fires, and there are seven 23|00:03:04|940|00:03:13|140fires of the spirits of darkness, making 21 in all, and each one of these seven is 24|00:03:13|140|00:03:25|36049-fold, making 147 altogether, and plus three for each of the major seven groupings, which 25|00:03:25|360|00:03:31|540will bring us to 150, or 15, which is a kumaric number. 26|00:03:31|540|00:03:42|380Each of these hierarchies which are in the manifested group can be regarded as fallen 27|00:03:42|380|00:03:49|480in the cosmic sense, because they have in a way fallen onto the cosmic physical plane 28|00:03:49|480|00:03:55|800or are involved in their work within that lowest plane. 29|00:03:56|170|00:04:02|540It says, “because they are involved in the building process or the occupiers of forms 30|00:04:02|540|00:04:05|860of some degree of density or another.” 31|00:04:06|920|00:04:17|360This means that all of these hierarchies—and so many of them are very subtle with respect 32|00:04:17|360|00:04:27|560to the human perspective—all of them can be regarded as fallen because working on the 33|00:04:29|800|00:04:31|800lowest of the cosmic planes. 34|00:04:32|620|00:04:40|960But particularly the hierarchies number 10, 11, and 12 have to be regarded as fallen because 35|00:04:40|960|00:04:50|300they are working within the dense physical body of the solar Logos, so they are working 36|00:04:50|300|00:04:57|700on the very lowest level of the cosmic physical plane, the lowest three levels in the dense 37|00:04:57|700|00:05:03|940physical body of the Logos, and the solar angels particularly are fallen angels—but 38|00:05:03|940|00:05:07|060they are fallen because of sacrifice. 39|00:05:07|920|00:05:14|460They are fallen into the levels which they have long ago transcended. 40|00:05:15|240|00:05:24|960They are Prometheus bringing the fire of mind and of love and of will to animal man—and 41|00:05:24|960|00:05:33|600in order to do that they had to fall by choice into the dense physical body of the solar 42|00:05:33|600|00:05:39|000Logos, though not necessarily the dense physical body of the planetary Logos. 43|00:05:40|560|00:05:46|680They are involved in the building process and occupiers of form of some degree of density 44|00:05:47|460|00:05:48|460or another. 45|00:05:48|780|00:05:55|440Well, even on the cosmic etheric planes we can speak of density. 46|00:05:55|920|00:06:04|780Now the question is: can we—once we reach the higher cosmic planes—speak in terms of density? 47|00:06:05|780|00:06:12|480From our perspective it would seem that we could, although we know nothing of the material 48|00:06:12|480|00:06:17|720conditions on those particular planes if they are material conditions. 49|00:06:17|720|00:06:30|620We only know that the one being of all cosmos is variously veiled on each one of the systemic 50|00:06:30|620|00:06:37|280sub-planes and on the cosmic sub-planes, and as we move higher and higher and more and 51|00:06:37|280|00:06:46|860more into an interior position these veils are lifted, and the veils themselves are responsible 52|00:06:46|860|00:06:49|680for certain degrees of density. 53|00:06:50|280|00:06:57|060So I suppose until we reach the very highest universal plane where—on the Universa Logos 54|00:06:57|480|00:07:06|140in his highest aspect—is focused that there will always be what we can at least metaphorically 55|00:07:06|140|00:07:13|740call degrees of density, even though we don't know anything about the material conditions 56|00:07:14|210|00:07:19|520on the higher cosmic planes, higher than the cosmic physical plane. 57|00:07:20|100|00:07:35|040We do know, however, that if we look at this particular map, that the entire seven cosmic 58|00:07:35|040|00:07:45|700sub-planes are really the super cosmic etheric physical plane. 59|00:07:45|820|00:07:53|700This whole thing is a physical plane, an etheric physical plane from the super cosmic perspective, 60|00:07:53|700|00:08:05|320and just as our own solar angel will have a monad that is probably on the cosmic astral 61|00:08:05|320|00:08:15|620plane, so the solar angel, the vast solar angel that provides the egoic lotus of the solar 62|00:08:15|620|00:08:24|200Logos, will have a monad on the super cosmic astral plane above the super cosmic etheric 63|00:08:24|200|00:08:26|340and physical, and on it goes. 64|00:08:27|380|00:08:35|900So we can only think in terms of matter energy, and it's difficult for us to… well, it is impossible 65|00:08:35|900|00:08:44|920for us to conceive of planes in which there are non-physical conditions, non-material 66|00:08:44|920|00:08:46|120conditions. 67|00:08:46|380|00:08:54|420We, all forms and all fields, are made of the energies of matter as far as we are concerned, 68|00:08:54|420|00:09:02|740and even on our highest sub-plane of the cosmic physical plane, we have these tiny bubbles 69|00:09:02|740|00:09:10|560in the koilon which are the constituents of the fundamental atoms found on all the various 70|00:09:11|720|00:09:13|060systemic planes and sub-planes. 71|00:09:13|200|00:09:19|220So we really only think in terms of matter, substance, energy, force. 72|00:09:21|540|00:09:29|420Do such conditions of matter, substance, energy, force exist on the other cosmic planes? 73|00:09:30|140|00:09:34|680This is impossible for us to answer at the present moment. 74|00:09:36|700|00:09:43|380Okay, moving right along. This is number 18, and we are… where are we starting? 75|00:09:43|560|00:09:47|960Page 38, I do believe, and see if we can make another two pages here. 76|00:09:49|180|00:09:55|840We are now beginning the description of the various hierarchies. We are focusing on them 77|00:09:55|840|00:10:00|780particularly; we've been focusing on them in a loose kind of way. 78|00:10:01|260|00:10:04|180Yes, we are on page 38. 79|00:10:10|320|00:10:21|460Okay, Hierarchy number one. Okay, we are not speaking now of the liberated hierarchies; 80|00:10:21|780|00:10:26|920we are speaking of those Hierarchies which are considered manifested. 81|00:10:28|080|00:10:35|320Hierarchy I. The first great Hierarchy is emanated from the Heart of the central Spiritual Sun. 82|00:10:36|180|00:10:46|920Now, is this the same as the heart of the sun, or is this found in some way on the cosmic 83|00:10:46|920|00:10:47|880monadic plane? 84|00:10:47|880|00:10:57|680Usually we hear the term “heart of the sun,” and we do not hear of the Heart of the central 85|00:10:57|680|00:11:03|640Spiritual Sun. But in a way, the egoic lotus is said to be the heart center of the monad, 86|00:11:03|640|00:11:16|200so perhaps the solar Logoic egoic lotus is the heart center of that great solar Logoic 87|00:11:16|200|00:11:17|040monad. 88|00:11:17|040|00:11:25|780So I would be content for the moment with thinking of this as the egoic lotus of the 89|00:11:25|780|00:11:33|440solar Logos, or his soul nature upon the higher cosmic mental plane. 90|00:11:33|960|00:11:40|100I think that would be a reasonable way of thinking about it. 91|00:11:40|780|00:11:50|980And, of course, this particular Creative Hierarchy is ruled by the sign Leo, which definitely 92|00:11:51|780|00:12:02|380connects it, we see, with the idea of the egoic lotus and with the sense of the sun. 93|00:12:02|640|00:12:05|080The sun and Leo are very correlated. 94|00:12:05|080|00:12:13|620So to have a Leonian hierarchy emanating from the heart of the central spiritual sun makes 95|00:12:13|620|00:12:14|480a lot of sense. 96|00:12:15|160|00:12:23|800It is the Son of God Himself, the First Born in a cosmic sense,—at least the First Born 97|00:12:23|800|00:12:31|580on the cosmic physical plane, the First Born of the Hierarchies which are found upon the 98|00:12:31|580|00:12:39|700cosmic physical plane—and one begins to wonder whether, in terms of emanative process, 99|00:12:40|650|00:12:51|230the way these Hierarchies emerge will be the most powerful first, followed by those of 100|00:12:51|230|00:12:59|070secondary power, tertiary, quaternary and so forth, until we find emanations of 101|00:12:59|070|00:13:02|750those lowest of the Creative Hierarchies. 102|00:13:03|150|00:13:08|770So he is the First Born in a cosmic sense, even as the Christ was 103|00:13:08|770|00:13:14|510the “Eldest in a vast family of brothers,” and the “first flower on the human plant.” 104|00:13:14|510|00:13:22|570Well, I think we can see here that there is something of the Christ nature in this great 105|00:13:22|570|00:13:32|470hierarchy, but perhaps we are dealing with an expression of the cosmic—cosmic Christ. 106|00:13:33|810|00:13:36|570And by the cosmic Christ, what will we mean? 107|00:13:37|430|00:13:41|890Probably the soul nature of our solar Logos. 108|00:13:42|990|00:13:51|250The symbol of this Hierarchy is the Golden Lotus with its twelve petals folded. The Secret Doctrine I. 233-250. III. 565. 109|00:13:52|310|00:14:00|590So they have to be unfolded, I imagine, in the course of solar Logoic development. 110|00:14:00|790|00:14:08|430And perhaps when our solar Logos is completely unfolded in terms of his task to be undertaken 111|00:14:09|050|00:14:16|590in this second major solar system, perhaps these twelve petals will be completely unfolded. 112|00:14:16|730|00:14:21|450Notice the higher correspondence to the twelve-petaled egoic lotus. 113|00:14:21|570|00:14:25|630This must definitely be connected with a twelve-petaled heart center. 114|00:14:26|590|00:14:32|770Sometimes the heart center of the solar Logos is said to be twelve-petaled. 115|00:14:32|990|00:14:35|930Now it depends on what heart center we are talking about. 116|00:14:35|930|00:14:44|250From an etheric point of view, there is probably a solar Logoic heart center to be found on 117|00:14:44|250|00:14:48|290the second cosmic ether, the monadic plane. 118|00:14:49|170|00:14:54|770There is also a kind of heart center to be found on the cosmic higher mental plane. 119|00:14:55|490|00:15:03|630But then the question arises: is the egoic lotus of the solar Logos twelve-fold, which 120|00:15:03|630|00:15:10|610sometimes it seems to be described as being, or is it twenty-one-fold, with seven circles 121|00:15:10|610|00:15:19|250or tiers of three petals each, the second tier of which is said to be influential in 122|00:15:19|250|00:15:22|510relation to the spiritual hierarchy? 123|00:15:22|850|00:15:25|750But there is definitely strong Christ imagery here. 124|00:15:26|710|00:15:37|570There is the sense that Shambhala, where this hierarchy is expressing itself, is the seat 125|00:15:38|270|00:15:46|150of love eternal, the deepest form of love that can be expressed upon the cosmic physical plane. 126|00:15:46|690|00:15:52|490So we will keep this idea of the heart of the sun, the solar Logoic egoic lotus, the 127|00:15:52|490|00:16:01|810solar Logoic causal body, and the relationship of these forces on the cosmic higher mental 128|00:16:01|810|00:16:16|350plane to this hierarchy of divine flames, divine lives, perhaps having this type of 129|00:16:16|350|00:16:19|790light which is called roaring orange light. 130|00:16:20|450|00:16:28|230The supreme energy in terms of the cosmic physical plane is found here, and we have 131|00:16:28|230|00:16:29|790both fire and air. 132|00:16:29|930|00:16:36|750Obviously it is the sea of fire, but it is the highest of the ethers, and the ethers 133|00:16:36|750|00:16:42|390are associated with air because the ethers we know are called vital airs. 134|00:16:43|280|00:16:52|890So we think of Sanat Kumara as the king of Shambhala, we think of the sign Leo as the 135|00:16:52|890|00:17:01|090royal sign. We don't know how it would work out, but we can see that these great divine 136|00:17:01|090|00:17:06|770flames would be very suitable within the precincts of Shambhala. 137|00:17:07|770|00:17:18|450One of the things possibly to be done here is to look at the Western classification of 138|00:17:18|450|00:17:25|750angels and to see on what levels some of these angels might be placed. 139|00:17:26|790|00:17:32|670One of the highest forms of angels are Seraphim, and they are very fiery beings. 140|00:17:32|910|00:17:42|170We want to know whether the terminology in this tabulation here can be related to some 141|00:17:42|170|00:17:44|690of the Western terminology. 142|00:17:45|950|00:17:53|290Seraphim, cherubim, archangels of a lower kind because planets themselves, planetary 143|00:17:53|290|00:17:56|450Logoi, are in a way archangels. 144|00:17:56|450|00:18:03|990Anyway, fire and air, air because of the cosmic etheric nature, and fire because this is that 145|00:18:03|990|00:18:09|870state of matter which is called the sea of fire, and yet patterns of consummate beauty 146|00:18:10|390|00:18:17|190can be found within Shambhala, so I don't think we should think of this as a chaotic 147|00:18:17|190|00:18:18|070realm. 148|00:18:18|810|00:18:24|610There are great causal forms that are found on the Logoic plane. 149|00:18:25|430|00:18:33|770It is a causal plane in an ultimate sense, and perhaps these divine flames, the divine 150|00:18:34|970|00:18:40|110lives, are participating in the creation of these great patterns. 151|00:18:40|910|00:18:48|970We sometimes think of the monad as a spark of the eternal flame hanging by the finest 152|00:18:48|970|00:18:50|130thread of fohat. 153|00:18:51|210|00:18:59|530Perhaps the eternal flame, the love eternal, can be found on this high level of the Logoic 154|00:19:00|250|00:19:04|730plane and is related to this hierarchy of divine flames. 155|00:19:04|870|00:19:16|250Well, you know, this is a hierarchy into the presence of which we will not ascend until 156|00:19:16|250|00:19:23|550beyond that stage when we are a conscious and liberated monad of the sixth initiation. 157|00:19:24|570|00:19:31|930When we undergo the breaking or the shattering of the monadic vehicle, the temple of Ezekiel, 158|00:19:32|070|00:19:42|950and when the volatile essence of pure spirit is released into yet another planar container, 159|00:19:43|950|00:19:51|950then we may encounter, as we begin to take the seventh initiation, the nature of these 160|00:19:51|950|00:19:52|930lives. 161|00:19:53|950|00:20:07|490At the same time, it depends on when we do this, because before long another group that 162|00:20:07|490|00:20:13|430we might encounter, the fifth creative hierarchy which is still focused on the Logoic plane, 163|00:20:13|770|00:20:16|170might have moved on. 164|00:20:24|250|00:20:34|370Now what I think we're going to have to do is bring out these symbols all together when 165|00:20:34|370|00:20:42|410we have completed the discussion and see if there is more that we can extract from the 166|00:20:42|410|00:20:44|750symbols when grouped together. 167|00:20:45|960|00:20:53|250They obviously require a deep penetrating intuition to fathom them. 168|00:20:54|330|00:21:02|000The folded petals, and they are golden in accordance with Leo, of this particular hierarchy, 169|00:21:02|670|00:21:06|880suggests that unfoldment is required. 170|00:21:07|740|00:21:16|020And I would say that when divine purpose in the solar Logoic sense is executed in terms 171|00:21:16|020|00:21:23|780of this particular incarnation of the solar Logos, this solar system, we can perhaps expect 172|00:21:23|780|00:21:25|940an unfoldment of these petals. 173|00:21:25|940|00:21:31|180I cannot see how they would remain forever folded. 174|00:21:32|260|00:21:36|860It should be remembered that this Hierarchy is literally the sixth, 175|00:21:37|660|00:21:43|360for five hierarchies have passed on, or we would add almost passed on, being the product 176|00:21:43|360|00:21:47|220of the earlier system 177|00:21:47|720|00:21:55|180In other words, let us say at least they have achieved greatly. 178|00:21:56|250|00:22:08|340In the earlier system, and have achieved liberation from the cosmic physical plane in that earlier 179|00:22:08|340|00:22:15|080system, except for creative hierarchy five. 180|00:22:17|330|00:22:22|960They have, they are the product of the earlier system, that wherein Intelligence or Manas 181|00:22:22|960|00:22:24|100was the goal. 182|00:22:24|100|00:22:32|380Well, five is the number of manas, and so it fits very well that five hierarchies will 183|00:22:32|380|00:22:33|100have achieved. 184|00:22:33|820|00:22:43|960Five is the number of manas, and so five have achieved, or almost so. 185|00:22:44|760|00:22:52|240We wonder about the time scale and how long it will be before there is the liberation 186|00:22:52|660|00:22:54|200of the fifth hierarchy. 187|00:22:54|480|00:23:01|840Will this mean—here is a possibility—that when our solar Logos is really coming to the 188|00:23:01|840|00:23:09|440fruition of his purpose, and earlier we were told when the sixth creative hierarchy, which 189|00:23:09|440|00:23:16|300is the first manifested, is reaching a higher state of development because of the solar 190|00:23:16|300|00:23:24|860Logoic unfoldment, then the fifth creative hierarchy will be released fully onto the 191|00:23:24|860|00:23:25|940cosmic astral plane? 192|00:23:26|800|00:23:33|220Yeah, and this, it will be fully released into its Christ nature because our solar Logos 193|00:23:33|220|00:23:36|620will have become a more completed Christ. 194|00:23:36|760|00:23:44|620He will have taken either the fourth or the fifth initiation, which means that he will 195|00:23:44|620|00:23:54|440be fully a cosmic soul, which we cannot yet say that he is, since he has only taken the 196|00:23:54|440|00:23:57|100second cosmic initiation. 197|00:23:57|840|00:24:03|940At least this is my speculation as to the release of the fifth creative hierarchy. 198|00:24:04|620|00:24:12|280So we have the five Kumaras, we have manas, we have the idea that manas was highly developed, 199|00:24:12|280|00:24:17|920intelligence or manas was highly developed, and that whatever the cosmic physical plane 200|00:24:17|920|00:24:24|680consisted of at that time—did it consist of five planes, was it seven planes—there 201|00:24:24|680|00:24:31|260was a release from the cosmic physical plane of the time, at least for four of these hierarchies, 202|00:24:32|000|00:24:41|820and when this solar system came into expression, they were already focusing on the cosmic astral 203|00:24:41|820|00:24:44|480plane. This is how it seems to me. 204|00:24:45|400|00:24:55|780The five liberated Hierarchies are in their totality the sum total of manas. Well, okay, 205|00:24:57|060|00:25:07|700manas in relation to what plane? Let's see, manas in relation to the cosmic physical plane, 206|00:25:07|700|00:25:16|560I suspect, because if we go higher and we go onto the cosmic mental plane, we find that 207|00:25:16|560|00:25:23|220manas definitely exists on that plane. The mental body of the Logoi are found on the 208|00:25:23|220|00:25:29|720cosmic mental plane, and we are talking about hierarchies who have their expression on the 209|00:25:29|720|00:25:36|400cosmic astral plane. Of course, we don't know where their monads are found. 210|00:25:37|700|00:25:43|800That is a very tricky question, because on each of the cosmic planes, on the second level 211|00:25:43|800|00:25:50|980of each of the cosmic planes, there can be found a home for different types of monads, 212|00:25:51|660|00:26:02|560and so perhaps there are monadic focuses for these hierarchies on the second level of the 213|00:26:02|560|00:26:10|680cosmic mental plane. That is possible, and maybe on each one of the cosmic planes that 214|00:26:10|680|00:26:18|440second subplane is a home for monads of different types of liberation. 215|00:26:19|560|00:26:25|180Okay, the five liberated hierarchies are in their totality the sum total of manas. At 216|00:26:25|180|00:26:32|480least we look towards their monadic effect on the cosmic physical plane. It is the Hierarchy 217|00:26:32|480|00:26:38|620which is the fifth in order,—this is the one we've been discussing so much—and which 218|00:26:38|620|00:26:44|840we are told is in process of achieving final liberation, because it's already achieved 219|00:26:44|840|00:26:52|740a degree of liberation, and seems at least to be partially active in relation to the 220|00:26:52|740|00:27:02|420cosmic astral plane, or taking its fourth Initiation, which is the cause of certain 221|00:27:02|420|00:27:09|140phenomena upon our planet which has merited our planet being called the “Star of Suffering.” 222|00:27:09|900|00:27:21|900We are graduates of painful endeavor. We are on a planet of sorrow, purifying sorrow, and 223|00:27:21|900|00:27:30|340pain. Releasing sorrow and purifying pain. I think that's how it's called, or is it—yeah, 224|00:27:30|340|00:27:40|880I think it's called that. So, okay, they are—the final liberation is considered a fourth Initiation 225|00:27:40|880|00:27:46|360for this particular hierarchy. Well, for us, that's not the final liberation. When we take 226|00:27:46|360|00:27:53|680a fourth Initiation, we are simply being liberated from the three lower worlds. But maybe what 227|00:27:53|680|00:28:01|640the three lower worlds are to a human being, the seven solar or systemic planes are to 228|00:28:01|640|00:28:06|740the members of this fifth Creative Hierarchy. So it's very interesting to see the term 229|00:28:06|740|00:28:19|720“final liberation” related to the fourth Initiation. And since these—the members of this fifth 230|00:28:19|720|00:28:31|980Creative Hierarchy—are connected to our solar angels, who are to us as karmic lords holding 231|00:28:31|980|00:28:41|360us in servitude in the lower planes, we can see that there is a connection here between 232|00:28:41|360|00:28:48|380the suffering of these higher beings, the fourth Initiation which our planetary Logos 233|00:28:48|380|00:28:53|880is taking, and the suffering of the fourth kingdom, or fourth Creative Hierarchy: humanity. 234|00:28:54|640|00:29:09|660So, let us relate the different types of suffering in relation to the fourth Initiation. The 235|00:29:09|660|00:29:18|360planetary Logos is undergoing a type of fourth Initiation. The fourth Initiation is the type 236|00:29:18|380|00:29:28|120of fourth Initiation. The Creative Hierarchy five is also in the process of a fourth Initiation, 237|00:29:29|000|00:29:40|200and the human kingdom is the fourth kingdom. The fourth kingdom is suffering, and slowly 238|00:29:40|560|00:29:48|360moving towards its liberation at the fourth Initiation, is suffering. So, the fourth Initiation 239|00:29:48|380|00:29:59|520is the liberation from the dense levels of the cosmic physical plane. So this is very 240|00:29:59|520|00:30:08|200interesting that the fourth Initiation, which they are undergoing—this fifth Creative Hierarchy— 241|00:30:10|160|00:30:18|360is the cause of that process of being rent, rent from matter. Now, the fourth Initiation 242|00:30:19|160|00:30:28|140is—this is interesting—we want to ask, is there a Sirian connection to this Kumaric 243|00:30:28|140|00:30:40|400hierarchy, Kumaric creative hierarchy? Because Sirius is a star which is connected with the 244|00:30:40|400|00:30:46|720solar angels, and therefore it would be connected with this manasic hierarchy, it being the 245|00:30:46|720|00:30:53|000great star of manas, this manasic hierarchy being sort of a higher correspondence to the 246|00:30:53|000|00:31:01|620solar angels. The cause of suffering is given by the Tibetan when discussing in the rays 247|00:31:01|620|00:31:11|120and the initiations the fourth path of pain, which is the fourth purpose of Sanat Kumara, 248|00:31:11|120|00:31:18|220and it has a lot to do with the conscious recognition through mind of what is happening. 249|00:31:18|380|00:31:23|800So we see the factor of manas involved in suffering. There is a conscious suffering 250|00:31:24|360|00:31:30|780going on. This is different from the animal suffering, which is experienced but not as 251|00:31:30|780|00:31:39|500if from a center of consciousness. Okay, so I have found this very interesting. 252|00:31:41|120|00:31:50|200That this group taking its fourth Initiation is the cause of the rending process, because 253|00:31:50|200|00:31:56|440suffering is always dealing with duality. This particular group has a lot of duality 254|00:31:56|440|00:32:02|360connected with it because they are partially focused on the cosmic astral plane and partially 255|00:32:02|360|00:32:11|100focused on the cosmic physical plane, and they seem to—their attempt to, their attempt 256|00:32:11|920|00:32:20|920to rise out of cosmic physicality seems to be inducing an attempt of humanity, the fourth 257|00:32:20|920|00:32:30|760Creative Hierarchy, to rise out of dense systemic physicality—the physicality of the cosmic, 258|00:32:32|380|00:32:37|480physicality of the cosmic dense levels, the dense physical body of the solar Logos. 259|00:32:38|200|00:32:44|340Well, these things get pretty profound, and you know, of course this is, you know, in 260|00:32:44|340|00:32:51|640a way the most abstract section of this treatise on the Seven Rays, Volume 3, because after 261|00:32:51|640|00:32:57|680all, this section is taken directly from Cosmic Fire. The Tibetan thinking—I think it would 262|00:32:57|680|00:33:07|460be a very good idea for us to have these cosmic relations in mind before we venture into the 263|00:33:07|480|00:33:13|420particulars of esoteric astrology. People are so interested in the particulars and, you 264|00:33:13|420|00:33:20|300know, it all boils down to, well, what's happening to me, you know, to the illusory me. We all 265|00:33:20|300|00:33:28|500want to know what's happening to us as if we were a real and enduring center somehow. 266|00:33:28|940|00:33:36|220But really we're asking to know what's happening to a kind of false ego, because we have not 267|00:33:36|220|00:33:42|200achieved that sense of unity and identification which comes with the higher initiation. So 268|00:33:42|820|00:33:49|440later we'll be much more interested in what's happening to group, of which I am a small 269|00:33:49|440|00:33:56|500but integral part, and what's happening to the whole, to the planetary whole. So this 270|00:33:58|400|00:34:05|840question of the egoistic use of astrology is being countered by the Tibetan as he gives 271|00:34:05|840|00:34:12|840us such a vast view of what's really happening. There is a karmic link between the animal 272|00:34:12|840|00:34:21|520kingdom and the fifth Creative Hierarchy of the earlier system Now is that the same as 273|00:34:21|520|00:34:28|180the fifth Creative Hierarchy of this system? Did the hierarchy's number change in the movement 274|00:34:28|180|00:34:35|820from the previous older system to this system? Anyway, this, this is a very important question— 275|00:34:35|840|00:34:42|400this link between the…was it a Cancerian hierarchy in the earlier system? Because, 276|00:34:43|660|00:34:48|920well, you see that's the thing. That's very interesting. The fifth Creative Hierarchy 277|00:34:48|920|00:34:56|480of an earlier system—that's a hint because the liberated hierarchies are not of the solar 278|00:34:56|480|00:35:05|820system per se. When a hierarchy is of a system, it's found on the cosmic physical plane. So 279|00:35:05|840|00:35:13|780anyway we'll take it at face value. There is a karmic link between the animal kingdom and the 280|00:35:13|780|00:35:20|560fifth Creative Hierarchy of the early system which makes itself felt in man in the necessary 281|00:35:20|560|00:35:28|380crucifixion of the animal physical nature, This is very interesting because the animal 282|00:35:28|380|00:35:35|140physical nature is the dense physical body with which Cancer is associated. And this 283|00:35:35|140|00:35:43|480is particularly along sex lines. I think even the process of birth is a kind of crucifixion. 284|00:35:43|720|00:35:52|660We are told that in the Secret Doctrine that pain accompanying birth is not necessarily 285|00:35:52|660|00:36:00|920a natural condition; it is a karmic condition where humanity is concerned. We must remember 286|00:36:00|920|00:36:07|720that the Hierarchies work under the Law of Attraction; They are gathering specific forms 287|00:36:07|720|00:36:14|280and fields around them. it is the law of the Builders. They are all builders of form of 288|00:36:14|280|00:36:24|460various kinds of density. So what we have here is the need to be liberated from the 289|00:36:24|460|00:36:33|680fourfold into the fivefold. The animal nature of man is basically the personality nature 290|00:36:33|680|00:36:45|560ruled in a sense by Mars, the planet of animality. And it has to rise into the fifth kingdom, 291|00:36:45|560|00:36:52|600but it can only do so through that rending process which we call crucifixion. But until 292|00:36:52|600|00:37:00|800we know whether we are speaking of the fifth Creative Hierarchy on the cosmic astral plane 293|00:37:01|360|00:37:07|880or whether we are speaking of a different fifth Creative Hierarchy which now has a different 294|00:37:07|880|00:37:18|220number, we cannot be sure. But let's just say that when you look at a cross we must 295|00:37:18|220|00:37:24|700rise off the cross; we must be liberated from the cross. This can only be done by entering 296|00:37:25|150|00:37:34|520into the fifth or spiritual kingdom, and this can only be done at least in our systems by 297|00:37:34|520|00:37:44|300a painful process of crucifixion where the desire nature is completely confined and only 298|00:37:44|300|00:37:54|120love will raise a man off the cross into the fifth kingdom. So let's just—we have learned 299|00:37:54|120|00:38:02|560something about this fifth Creative Hierarchy and the factor of human suffering. We are 300|00:38:02|560|00:38:10|620also learning something about a fifth Creative Hierarchy of the earlier system and the suffering 301|00:38:10|620|00:38:21|880of the animal physical nature in this solar system. The number five always, from one perspective, 302|00:38:22|530|00:38:27|840supersedes the number four. The soul, which is the member of the fifth kingdom, supersedes 303|00:38:27|840|00:38:40|600the number four which designates the human kingdom and the four elemental lives. The 304|00:38:40|600|00:38:47|200four elemental lives are based on our planet and perhaps in our solar system because we 305|00:38:47|200|00:38:53|800are in an astro-buddhic solar system and at the moment our solar Logos is undergoing a 306|00:38:53|800|00:39:04|440kind of fourth Initiation of a lower sort through our planetary scheme, the fourth scheme, 307|00:39:04|440|00:39:10|360the Earth scheme whose symbol is the cross. You know it's kind of interesting that as 308|00:39:10|360|00:39:20|680the planetary Logos undergoes its fourth Initiation, the solar Logos is also experiencing a kind 309|00:39:20|680|00:39:28|400of fourth Initiation through the planetary Logos' fourth Initiation. This is in a way— 310|00:39:29|200|00:39:38|780there's a faint analogy here of the Christ taking the first Initiation every time a new 311|00:39:38|780|00:39:44|480aspirant to the mysteries takes the first Initiation. He takes it—the Christ takes 312|00:39:44|480|00:39:53|600it through and with the one who is taking it. Okay, now these are deep matters and much 313|00:39:53|600|00:39:59|620will have to be left for further research. Now we're coming back to This first 314|00:39:59|620|00:40:08|880(sixth) Hierarchy has for its type of energy the first aspect so that's the plane it's 315|00:40:08|880|00:40:15|440on, of the sixth type and that's the number of the hierarchy if we number from above, 316|00:40:15|640|00:40:23|580of cosmic electricity, and wields special power, therefore, in conjunction 317|00:40:23|600|00:40:31|600with the lowest fire, or “fire by friction,” as it makes itself felt on the sixth plane. 318|00:40:31|900|00:40:41|720So what the Tibetan has just done is he has drawn a connection between this first Creative 319|00:40:41|720|00:40:48|040Hierarchy, wielding the sixth type of cosmic electricity, but according to numerical resonance 320|00:40:48|040|00:40:54|840we will have to go down to the sixth plane where the Lunar Lords are focused and focused 321|00:40:54|840|00:41:02|020especially in the energy of fire by friction, Mars being the particular energy of fire by 322|00:41:02|020|00:41:08|740friction. I think we have an interesting relationship here between the first Creative Hierarchy 323|00:41:08|740|00:41:17|280and the sixth, and I think it's a relationship between Vulcan veiled by the Sun and Mars. 324|00:41:18|040|00:41:27|340Vulcan is will and Mars is desire. Vulcan is Vulcain and Mars is Abel, and Cain or will 325|00:41:27|340|00:41:38|440always kills Abel. So there is a connection here of this great solar hierarchy with a 326|00:41:38|440|00:41:45|360hierarchy which has much to do with the solar plexus and with Mars which rules the solar 327|00:41:45|360|00:41:56|180plexus of man. And Para Shakti, the supreme energy, certainly is invocative of Kundalini 328|00:41:56|180|00:42:04|720Shakti which is associated with these lunar lords. So the relationship of one to six is 329|00:42:04|720|00:42:13|880being described for us. Okay, whoop, alright. 330|00:42:16|260|00:42:23|960So, let's repeat this. The first or sixth hierarchy has for its type of energy the first 331|00:42:23|960|00:42:29|480aspect of the sixth type of cosmic electricity, and this is being called in our tabulation 332|00:42:30|760|00:42:36|700Para Shakti, the supreme energy, at least supreme in relation to the cosmic physical 333|00:42:36|700|00:42:44|220plane. And the sea of fire, we are being told on the first plane, has a special relation 334|00:42:45|360|00:42:54|600to the astral sea, to the astral light and to the fire of desire provided by Mars on 335|00:42:54|600|00:43:01|720the sixth level. So it wields special power in conjunction with the lowest fire, or “fire 336|00:43:01|720|00:43:13|000by friction,” as it makes itself felt on the sixth plane. These lives, he tells us, now 337|00:43:13|000|00:43:20|500don't give this to us. He says These lives are called “the burning Sons of Desire” and 338|00:43:20|500|00:43:28|140were the Sons of Necessity. They had to incarnate — that's generally what the term “Son of Necessity” 339|00:43:28|140|00:43:36|120means, an inevitable incarnation. But look at this term, the burning sons of desire. 340|00:43:37|020|00:43:48|680Hmm, if we look at the names associated, either there's a mistake here or D.K. is telling 341|00:43:48|680|00:43:55|760us more about the similarity between the second group and the first group. The divine Builders 342|00:43:55|760|00:44:04|220conferring soul are also called burning sons of desire. Is this title put in the wrong 343|00:44:04|220|00:44:10|300place? Because he most definitely tells us that the first or the sixth Creative Hierarchy 344|00:44:10|700|00:44:19|740are called burning Sons of Desire. And I imagine that they burn with a kind of desire which 345|00:44:19|740|00:44:28|600is meant to take them eventually onto the plane of cosmic desire. So they, let us say, 346|00:44:28|940|00:44:42|540burn to be liberated onto the cosmic astral plane but stimulate a burning on the systemic 347|00:44:44|560|00:44:58|580astral plane which leads to aspiration towards the soul. 348|00:44:59|140|00:45:07|960It is said of them in the Old Commentary: “They burned to know. They rushed into the 349|00:45:07|960|00:45:15|680spheres. They are the longing of the Father for the Mother. Hence do they suffer, burn, 350|00:45:16|300|00:45:27|680and long through the sixth sphere of sense.” Now, I think he is talking about the higher 351|00:45:28|760|00:45:38|980Hierarchy and not the Lunar Lords. They make themselves felt on the sixth plane, yes. They 352|00:45:38|980|00:45:44|540are called burning Sons of Desire. They are Sons of Necessity. But in a way, from another 353|00:45:44|540|00:45:53|840perspective, although they long for liberation, they also are the power of the Father descending 354|00:45:53|840|00:45:59|400towards the Mother. They burn to know the Mother. They rush into all of the spheres, 355|00:45:59|860|00:46:07|480and remember planes are spheres, spherical. They are the longing of the Father for the 356|00:46:07|480|00:46:16|100Mother. So in a way they initiate a kind of relationship between the cosmic ethers and 357|00:46:16|100|00:46:23|280the cosmic dense levels, or the Mother levels. Hence do they suffer, burn, and long through 358|00:46:23|280|00:46:30|100the sixth sphere of sense. In other words, this is their expression through the astral 359|00:46:30|100|00:46:47|120plane which is the plane of sensation. So they express through the systemic astral plane 360|00:46:49|140|00:47:00|300which is the sphere of sensation. So there is a kind of cosmic desire which they express 361|00:47:00|300|00:47:07|180which is a higher correspondence to the kind of desire which is expressed through Mars 362|00:47:07|180|00:47:17|100on the astral plane, on the systemic astral plane. And so they have a kind of desire that 363|00:47:17|120|00:47:24|000is a kind of resonance with what we call desire, and they probably to a degree animate 364|00:47:24|000|00:47:29|980the solar plexus. Well, only a little really is being said about these lives which are 365|00:47:29|980|00:47:38|720out of reach, but in a way they are on the atomic sub-plane of the cosmic physical plane. 366|00:47:39|420|00:47:47|100That is the hierarchical plane. That is the plane of causality. That is the plane of the 367|00:47:47|120|00:47:54|520plane in which the initiating vibration, i.e., Vulcan, makes its presence felt. That is the 368|00:47:54|520|00:48:03|860plane that attempts to impress with divine purpose all that is in the mind of God the 369|00:48:03|860|00:48:12|500solar Logos or in the mind for our purposes of God the Sanat Kumara. Well, I'm only too 370|00:48:12|500|00:48:22|000aware that there are many things to be researched here and certainly we want to find out whether 371|00:48:22|000|00:48:31|400the burning Sons of Desire applies to the second of the manifested Creative Hierarchies 372|00:48:31|400|00:48:39|260or to the first of the manifested Creative Hierarchies or to both of them. But let's 373|00:48:39|260|00:48:48|720just say that they are kind of a divine prototype. They represent a liberated state for the monad. 374|00:48:49|100|00:48:56|670The monad is free of its monadic vehicle when in the presence of this Leonian hierarchy. 375|00:48:58|760|00:49:06|820And so experience is probably the bliss of solar Logoic identity for the first time. 376|00:49:07|380|00:49:17|200At the seventh initiation, we are told that our planetary Logos is the initiator at that 377|00:49:17|200|00:49:25|200time, not Sanat Kumara per se, and not that unusual but unnamed existence that initiates 378|00:49:25|200|00:49:32|560at the sixth, but the planetary Logos himself at the seventh. And when he initiates at the 379|00:49:32|560|00:49:41|020seventh, he is giving the transfiguration initiation in terms of Sirius and he is giving 380|00:49:41|980|00:49:48|500mastership in terms of the solar initiations. So there is a kind of liberation into the 381|00:49:48|500|00:49:55|600Sun. It's a very solar initiation. It's a dual initiation of love and wisdom, we are 382|00:49:55|600|00:50:02|540told. So there is a liberation of the monad into the love-wisdom nature of the Sun, the 383|00:50:02|560|00:50:09|520Sun at the seventh initiation, and perhaps these burning Sons of Desire, these hierarchies 384|00:50:09|520|00:50:17|740that work on this particular plane are particularly involved in that initiation, or at least in 385|00:50:17|740|00:50:19|000some way related. 386|00:50:20|260|00:50:31|320Okay, where are we now? We have been dealing with lives which are tremendous in their stature. 387|00:50:33|360|00:50:46|400They are far beyond the monad, of far greater development than the monad. And so we are 388|00:50:46|400|00:50:54|660reduced to a degree to speculation, hopefully reasonably reasoned speculation. 389|00:50:57|460|00:51:06|220Now we continue with hierarchy number two. How are they described here? The divine builders 390|00:51:06|220|00:51:13|440conferring soul. They are also called burning Sons of Desire unless that particular statement 391|00:51:14|520|00:51:22|780is located in the wrong place. They are related to Virgo, to the planet Jupiter, to the colour 392|00:51:22|780|00:51:30|320blue, to Kriya Shakti materializing the ideal. They are connected with ether or what is sometimes 393|00:51:30|320|00:51:36|140called ether. They relate to the monadic plane. Their numbers are seven, two and six, which 394|00:51:36|140|00:51:45|940I think are very Jupiterian numbers. Now you know, these are hints, these are hints. Hierarchy 395|00:51:45|940|00:52:00|420II. The second Hierarchy is closely allied with the Great Bear. Now we wonder why Hierarchy one, which is 396|00:52:00|420|00:52:09|780Leonian in its nature, will not be also allied with the Great Bear. But here of course the 397|00:52:10|220|00:52:24|340Great Bear gives us those stars which are the prototypes of the seven heavenly men with 398|00:52:24|340|00:52:31|220which the different monads are associated. So there is a monadic link here from the Great 399|00:52:31|220|00:52:39|760Bear to the planetary Logoi to the human monad. There is a monadic link here. There is a monadic 400|00:52:39|780|00:52:49|440link. There is a connection—I'm thinking here there is Aries, Libra in relation to 401|00:52:49|440|00:53:00|900the Great Bear. And I'm thinking of the second Creative Hierarchy which is of the liberated 402|00:53:00|900|00:53:08|700variety being ruled by Aries. Wherever we find Aries we have to look for a connection 403|00:53:08|700|00:53:20|080to the Great Bear. The Great Bear is providing the will aspect of the seven rays and it provides 404|00:53:20|080|00:53:29|820that sense of monadic identity which we can associate with both Aries and Leo. Of course 405|00:53:29|820|00:53:35|860in some mythologies the Great Bear is the Great Mother Bear and represents a huge mother 406|00:53:35|860|00:53:44|520force which would correlate with the Divine Mother or Virgo which is the sign which rules 407|00:53:44|520|00:53:52|520this particular level, this particular hierarchy. We are told that They entered through the 408|00:53:52|520|00:53:59|720second ventricle within the Sacred Heart, Now that's very interesting because the Sacred 409|00:53:59|980|00:54:10|700Heart can be one of those heart centers which is found on the monadic plane. The second 410|00:54:10|700|00:54:19|120ventricle is pumping oxygenated blood to the rest of the body I do believe. I'll have to 411|00:54:19|120|00:54:24|800research that. I did some research on this and it's in my Cosmic Fire commentaries with 412|00:54:24|800|00:54:31|880various pictures of the heart but I cannot go searching for that at the moment. I believe 413|00:54:31|880|00:54:41|980that oxygenated blood is pumped to the rest of the body through this second ventricle, 414|00:54:42|440|00:54:49|520the living force. I will research that further to make sure I am correct. They entered through 415|00:54:49|520|00:54:54|640the second ventricle within the Sacred Heart. See what is the Sacred Heart? This is obviously 416|00:54:54|640|00:55:06|860symbolic, but if this particular chart is correct and we see here that for the human 417|00:55:06|860|00:55:15|000being, heart centers are found on the second ether, here as well the second ether of the 418|00:55:15|000|00:55:19|460etheric physical plane, the second ether of the emotional plane, then in a sense a greater 419|00:55:19|460|00:55:29|800heart center should be found on the second cosmic ether which is the monadic plane. Is 420|00:55:32|820|00:55:42|320the Sacred Heart the subjective heart, the heart of the sun on the cosmic mental plane, 421|00:55:42|320|00:55:49|440or is it an etheric heart center for the solar Logos correlating therefore with the heart 422|00:55:49|460|00:55:54|480with the monadic plane? That would seem reasonable. and are (as we are told in The Secret 423|00:55:54|480|00:56:02|840Doctrine) the prototypes of the Monads. They are the source of monadic life, but they are 424|00:56:02|840|00:56:09|540not at least the human Monads; They are far higher. Obviously they are monads. But monads 425|00:56:09|540|00:56:19|440come out of monads, and when we look at the following monads, the following monads are 426|00:56:19|460|00:56:26|180following pictures, if I can find that, let's see, that's not the one, this is the one, 427|00:56:26|340|00:56:36|840yes. When we look at this, it should be called Cosmic Parabron. Let's see if we can find 428|00:56:36|840|00:56:49|440that. Okay. If we can find Cosmic Parabron, there it is, the very one. Okay. What I basically 429|00:56:49|460|00:56:56|280am saying is that monads come out of monads. There are greater monads and there is something 430|00:56:56|280|00:57:02|400called by Master Morya the divisibility of the spirit. It's not a real divisibility, but 431|00:57:02|400|00:57:08|700it's an apparent divisibility, and let us say that each one of these lives is a monad; they 432|00:57:08|700|00:57:13|380split into seven. And each of the seven split into seven more, and so on and so on and so 433|00:57:13|380|00:57:28|000forth. So these lives are a higher type of monad out of which our monads emanate. Of 434|00:57:28|000|00:57:36|080course, in a way I dealt with this problem in my Infinity book. Do our monads per se 435|00:57:37|000|00:57:49|380exist in some sense at the very beginning of cosmos as parts or aspects of the one great 436|00:57:49|380|00:57:58|220monad? And are there emanations which come forth from that one great monad, eventually 437|00:57:58|220|00:58:06|060breaking out in emanation until we have what we call the human monad after many emanative 438|00:58:06|340|00:58:12|740cycles? This is the question, but monads can only come from greater monads, and those greater 439|00:58:12|740|00:58:22|020monads from still greater monads, and so forth until we discover it is all one monad in multiple 440|00:58:22|020|00:58:31|760multifarious expression. So if these are prototypes of the monads, the question is: do they in a 441|00:58:31|760|00:58:37|900way emanate the human monad? Now at one point I used to think, you know, perhaps these are 442|00:58:37|900|00:58:48|180actually the planetary Logoi because we are said to be cells within the planetary Logos. 443|00:58:49|080|00:58:56|480Our monads are said to be cells within the planetary Logos. So could this be the hierarchy 444|00:58:56|480|00:59:08|660of planetary Logoi? But it didn't seem to hold water because these lives achieved in 445|00:59:08|660|00:59:16|120the previous solar system, whereas the planetary Logoi have been with the, have been types 446|00:59:16|120|00:59:23|240of planetary Logoi with our solar Logos for a very long time and long, long, long ago, 447|00:59:23|240|00:59:30|980many Mahakalpas ago they were as Masters of the Wisdom are now. So the degree of development 448|00:59:30|980|00:59:40|700did not seem proportional. So we have to investigate what we mean by prototypes of the monads. 449|00:59:41|280|00:59:51|600They can be Creative Hierarchies which in a way provide the vehicular nature for the 450|00:59:51|600|01:00:06|000human monad. That is one possibility. The question is, is the human monad pre-existing 451|01:00:06|000|01:00:14|320its existence upon the cosmic physical plane? So prototypes of the monads — we have two possibilities 452|01:00:14|320|01:00:22|440here: a greater monad subdividing and emanating a lesser monad, and we also have the possibility 453|01:00:22|440|01:00:31|420of these divine builders creating the temple of Ezekiel, which is the vehicle for the monad. 454|01:00:31|780|01:00:39|500Okay, I'm just quite sure that we are out of time, and we certainly are. Okay, it is here 455|01:00:39|500|01:00:51|380that we will stop for the moment. We are into some very heavy stuff here. This is the esoteric 456|01:00:51|380|01:00:59|440astrology adventure 18, although it is really a lot more like cosmology at the moment, but 457|01:00:59|440|01:01:09|080we will get down to earth before long — 30 June 11 — and have we actually gone through 458|01:01:09|080|01:01:18|560one page? Maybe, what page are we on here? We should be on page at least something. Okay, 459|01:01:18|560|01:01:28|160we are on page 39. We have moved from page 38 to 39. Great progress. Alright, friends, 460|01:01:28|160|01:01:39|060now we will together do our Great Invocation, and there it is. So we have moved from page 461|01:01:46|580|01:01:57|28040 to 41. From the point of light within the mind of God, let light stream forth into 462|01:01:57|280|01:02:06|560the minds of men. Let light descend on earth. From the point of love within the heart of 463|01:02:06|560|01:02:17|040God, let love stream forth into the hearts of men. May Christ return to earth. From the 464|01:02:17|040|01:02:22|640center where the will of God is known, let purpose guide the little wills of men, the 465|01:02:22|640|01:02:29|720purpose which the masters know and serve. From the center which we call the race of 466|01:02:29|720|01:02:37|000men, let the plan of love and light work out, and may it seal the door where evil dwells. 467|01:02:38|520|01:02:43|700Let light and love and power restore the plan on earth. 468|01:02:49|600|01:02:50|280Om. 469|01:02:58|940|01:02:59|620Om. 470|01:03:02|600|01:03:04|000Om. 471|01:03:21|660|01:03:23|060Om. 472|01:03:23|060|01:03:37|560Well, thank you everyone, and we will continue with number 19. And we will continue with the 473|01:03:37|560|01:03:46|000discussion of the prototypes of the monads as the builders of the monadic vehicle, just 474|01:03:46|000|01:03:53|040the way, probably, the third creative hierarchy, the triple flowers, are building the triple 475|01:03:53|060|01:04:06|140triadic fields. But that term “prototype” does make us question the idea of monadic emanation. 476|01:04:07|020|01:04:13|740We are told that there is a great history to the monad which is not revealed, and we 477|01:04:13|740|01:04:22|000want to know whether that monad is working in aggregation with other monads with which 478|01:04:22|000|01:04:29|820it shares the sense of oneself, or whether it has split out, as it were, apparently into 479|01:04:30|380|01:04:35|920the human monad, which after all is but one monad. Those are the things that have been 480|01:04:35|920|01:04:43|320on my mind for quite a number of years. But I suppose that when we have that unity of 481|01:04:43|320|01:04:51|980monadic experience, monadic awareness, all sense of separation will disappear. And no, 482|01:04:52|000|01:04:59|100if there is no “my soul, thy soul,” there is certainly no “my monad, thy monad.” Alright, everybody, 483|01:04:59|100|01:05:04|200this is a little bit longer, running over a little more than an hour, but we are pretty 484|01:05:04|200|01:05:11|600close. So we will be seeing you for Esoteric Astrology Adventure number 19, continuing with 485|01:05:11|600|01:05:14|400the second manifested Creative Hierarchy.
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