1|00:00:03|020|00:00:17|620Okay, hi everybody. We are in Esoteric Astrology adventure number 24, and we have been discussing 2|00:00:17|620|00:00:26|460the fifth Creative Hierarchy of Solar Angels. I've given you many names for these Solar 3|00:00:26|460|00:00:35|360Angels, and we've been discussing the dual aspects of manus. We're on page 48 of Esoteric 4|00:00:35|360|00:00:45|960Astrology. We seem to be making great progress at an average of, oh, two pages a day—two 5|00:00:45|960|00:00:55|620pages per webinar. But we are introducing a number of other subjects. So the dual aspects 6|00:00:55|620|00:01:04|200of manas: one makes itself felt in the three worlds, and one can be felt in the higher spheres. 7|00:01:04|440|00:01:09|640And by higher spheres, I think we can mean the higher mental plane, although technically 8|00:01:09|640|00:01:18|740it's not one of the very highest spheres. Alright, we will move on here. And D.K. is talking 9|00:01:18|740|00:01:28|760about the hierarchies in general. Let's look at this and get this in order. It is necessary 10|00:01:28|760|00:01:37|140to bear in mind that all these groups are (even when termed “formless”) the true forms11|00:01:37|280|00:01:45|560 of all that persists, EA, p.48 In other words, force fields—let's call them configured 12|00:01:45|560|00:02:01|100force fields—are forms. So let's put that down: configured force fields are forms. They 13|00:02:01|100|00:02:08|700are the true forms of all that persists, for all are in the etheric body of the solar Logos 14|00:02:08|700|00:02:17|020or Planetary Logos. EA, p.48 We are talking about the cosmic ethers here—the etheric body of the 15|00:02:17|020|00:02:25|640Planetary Logos or Solar Logos. This is a point requiring careful emphasis; students 16|00:02:25|640|00:02:34|920have for too long regarded the form as being the dense physical body, EA, p.48 It is our tendency— 17|00:02:35|680|00:02:45|400our habitual response—to consider dense form as true form. But for Plato, the true forms were 18|00:02:45|400|00:02:52|380archetypal energy configurations on very high levels. I don't know if he knew about the planes; 19|00:02:52|400|00:02:59|260probably as an initiate he did, but he didn't present that or explain that in his writings. 20|00:03:00|120|00:03:06|620whereas to the occultist the physical body is not the form, EA, p.48—not a form at all—but a gross 21|00:03:06|620|00:03:12|500maya, or illusion, and the true form is the body of vitality. EA, p.48 So there are these energy 22|00:03:12|500|00:03:18|280configurations within the systemic body of vitality, which is still within the dense 23|00:03:18|280|00:03:26|320physical body of the Solar Logos, and within the Solar Logoic body of vitality, which are 24|00:03:26|320|00:03:35|180the cosmic ethers—is the cosmic ethers. Therefore, these Hierarchies are the sum total of the 25|00:03:35|180|00:03:43|340vital lives and the substratum or the substance of all that is. EA, p.48 That's a very good statement. 26|00:03:44|000|00:03:52|260They are the sum total of the vital lives. They are etheric in nature, and in a way, monadically, 27|00:03:52|260|00:04:03|020I would say that all of them have to be found within the cosmic ethers. There is good 28|00:04:03|020|00:04:12|680reason to believe that, as man one day has been expressing as a mineral, as a vegetable, 29|00:04:12|980|00:04:21|580as an animal, etc., that even the monads of the very lowest creative hierarchies are still 30|00:04:21|580|00:04:28|480found within the cosmic ethers and not within the dense physical body of the Solar Logos. 31|00:04:29|300|00:04:37|280So anyway, D.K. goes on here: We might regard the subject as follows: EA, p.48 The four superior 32|00:04:37|280|00:04:46|160groups—now notice he has to be including man, I do believe—a. The four superior groups 33|00:04:46|160|00:04:53|400are the Hierarchies expressing themselves through the three cosmic ethers, the second, 34|00:04:54|840|00:05:02|420third and fourth. EA, p.48 That's interesting. So this includes even the divine lives, presumably, 35|00:05:03|340|00:05:13|780including even the Divine—let's make it capital—Divine Lives. So they are expressing through 36|00:05:13|780|00:05:19|360the monadic plane, the atmic plane, and the buddhic plane—through the second, third and 37|00:05:19|360|00:05:25|440fourth ethers. I wonder why he has left out the Logoic plane as the first cosmic ether. 38|00:05:25|580|00:05:30|860These are four superior groups: presumably the Divine Lives, the divine builders, the 39|00:05:30|860|00:05:40|380triple flowers, and the human Creative Hierarchy. b. The two lowest groups are the lives which 40|00:05:40|380|00:05:48|560are found functioning as the involutionary matter (organised and unorganised) EA, p.48—presumably 41|00:05:49|420|00:05:56|700unorganized elemental matter also. The two lowest groups—the Lunar Lords and the baskets 42|00:05:56|700|00:06:06|160of nourishment—are found functioning as the involutionary matter of the logoic dense physical 43|00:06:06|160|00:06:13|860body, the liquid and gaseous, EA, p.48—and that's the systemic physical plane, the systemic 44|00:06:13|860|00:06:22|060astral plane, the systemic mental plane—with the living substance of the four higher subplanes 45|00:06:22|060|00:06:31|880of the systemic dense physical body. EA, p.48 Okay, so they're found in the Logoic dense physical 46|00:06:31|880|00:06:45|740body, but not really within the densest—let's see—three subplanes, which are our 47|00:06:46|220|00:06:55|800mineral dense, liquid and gaseous sub-planes, systemically considered. So the two lowest 48|00:06:55|800|00:07:04|180groups of lives function within the dense physical body of the Solar Logos, but in terms 49|00:07:04|180|00:07:12|140of the physical function only within the systemic etheric level, the living substance, not within 50|00:07:12|140|00:07:20|680the very densest level, and within the liquid and gaseous levels. So somehow the very lowest 51|00:07:20|680|00:07:29|700planes are left out of consideration, the very lowest three sub-planes. c. The fifth Hierarchy 52|00:07:31|090|00:07:39|280has an interesting position as the “mediating” body between the higher four and those which 53|00:07:39|280|00:07:47|220are found on the lower three subplanes. EA, p.48 between the higher four hierarchies, Creative Hierarchies, 54|00:07:47|220|00:07:54|160including man, because the solar Angels do mediate between what man is and what his function 55|00:07:54|160|00:08:04|920may be. Here is this warning again; hopefully it's okay. Okay. There is a vital and significant 56|00:08:04|920|00:08:13|380correspondence to be found between the seven head centres and the seven groups of egos 57|00:08:14|040|00:08:23|140on the mental plane, and there is an occult analogy between the three head centres (pineal gland, 58|00:08:23|280|00:08:30|040pituitary body, and the alta major centre) and the expression of these seven groups of egos 59|00:08:30|570|00:08:37|420in the three worlds. EA, p.48 Okay, this is one of those profound occult hints. I don't know whether we 60|00:08:37|420|00:08:43|000can fathom it entirely, but the seven head centers may be found within the head; they seem to be 61|00:08:43|380|00:08:51|880under the control of Vulcan, and each one of these head centers corresponds with one of the 62|00:08:51|880|00:09:04|260seven groups of egos on the mental plane. We know we have, according to ray division, 63|00:09:05|060|00:09:15|420egos on all the seven rays, and the seven head centers naturally communicate one of each of the 64|00:09:15|420|00:09:27|900seven rays, and these head centers direct their lower correspondences; they are the master centers 65|00:09:27|900|00:09:37|420within the body, and we're also talking about the directorial function of the seven groups of egos, 66|00:09:37|420|00:09:46|780because all personalities are directed, whether they are conscious of it or not, by their egoic 67|00:09:46|780|00:09:56|080groups, and each human being by his individual ego. And then the analogy continues; there's an 68|00:09:56|080|00:10:04|960analogy between the three more physical head centers. See, the seven head centers are etheric 69|00:10:04|960|00:10:11|520in nature, but the pineal gland, the pituitary body, and if he means by the alta major center the 70|00:10:11|520|00:10:18|980carotid gland, then they are physical representations of etheric centers, 71|00:10:19|640|00:10:29|960and the seven head centers work through these three physical centers. I would say that 72|00:10:29|960|00:10:38|300the lower five rays, or the lower five physical head centers, the lower five 73|00:10:38|780|00:10:45|620etheric head centers work through the alta major center, one through the pituitary body, and 74|00:10:45|620|00:10:51|620another, the highest of the head centers, carrying the first ray through the pineal gland. 75|00:10:52|860|00:10:59|800So this, you know, this is something we really have to ponder on, but let us hold the image of 76|00:10:59|800|00:11:08|720seven egoic ray groups on the higher mental plane, seven head centers of man, which are the 77|00:11:08|720|00:11:14|720Vulcanian master directing head centers, and the final expression working out through the physical 78|00:11:14|720|00:11:20|660brain through three particular centers: the alta major representing the third aspect, 79|00:11:21|540|00:11:27|020the pituitary body in this case representing the second, and the pineal gland representing the 80|00:11:27|020|00:11:34|280first. And you can divide those seven head centers into one and one and five: first ray, 81|00:11:34|740|00:11:42|720second ray, and third ray. That's one way of doing it, at least. And you know, D.K. certainly is 82|00:11:43|600|00:11:51|000correct in saying this, This is a most esoteric fact, and all students meditating upon the 83|00:11:51|000|00:11:58|840laws of at-one-ment must take this analogy into consideration. EA, p.48-49 In other words, the egoic nature 84|00:12:00|240|00:12:08|340has a connection with our etheric and physical brain: soul-mind-brain, and if we 85|00:12:08|900|00:12:17|060want to achieve the expression of the soul within our dense and etheric physical nature, 86|00:12:17|620|00:12:26|020we have to align the ego with the head centers, and certainly with a great center on top of the 87|00:12:26|020|00:12:31|540head, and with head centers, and ultimately with the pineal gland and with the lesser physical 88|00:12:31|540|00:12:39|580centers within the physical brain. So this type of alignment, it's kind of a, let's call it a soul 89|00:12:40|640|00:12:50|580etheric and physical brain alignment. And we have to learn how to do that, and when we study 90|00:12:50|580|00:12:57|720a treatise on white magic, some of the methods are given, and in D.K.'s meditation, some of the 91|00:12:57|720|00:13:07|480methods are given. It is useful to remember the place of these Hierarchies in the scheme, EA, p.49 92|00:13:07|720|00:13:14|800that is in our planetary scheme and also in the solar system, and to realise that upon the sum 93|00:13:14|800|00:13:23|950total of these vital bodies EA, p.49 see they are etheric in nature, they are not either cosmic etheric or 94|00:13:25|090|00:13:32|530systemically etheric, upon the sum total of these vital bodies is gradually gathered the dense 95|00:13:32|530|00:13:40|690manifestation which we regard as the evolutionary matter. EA, p.49 Well, we may regard two things as 96|00:13:40|690|00:13:55|570evolutionary matter, the systemic dense matter which we can relate to scientifically, 97|00:13:57|750|00:14:06|110and the matter of the three lower planes considered cosmically. 98|00:14:06|750|00:14:15|550Cosmically, the forms are built from the form of all atoms to the body of the ego. 99|00:14:16|670|00:14:23|490See, because we have there the cosmic etheric substratum in the body of the ego, 100|00:14:24|030|00:14:33|610and when it comes to the atom of matter, we have a systemic etheric substratum. The forms are built 101|00:14:33|610|00:14:39|890(from the form of all atoms to the body of the ego, from the form of a flower to the vast 102|00:14:39|890|00:14:52|550planetary or solar lotus) EA, p.49 See, these are cosmic etheric, cosmic etheric substratum, and the form 103|00:14:52|550|00:15:01|930of the flower is built upon what is called systemic etheric. The form of an atom is built upon 104|00:15:01|930|00:15:11|930systemic etheric energies, and the body of the ego is built upon cosmic etheric. 105|00:15:12|630|00:15:21|630To the vast planetary or solar lotus, because the Hierarchies exist as the aggregate of germ 106|00:15:21|630|00:15:30|400lives, EA, p.49 Now, when we're talking about aggregated germ lives, we are talking about aggregates of 107|00:15:30|400|00:15:46|900monads. They are lives; they are seeds; they are the points; they are the living essence. 108|00:15:47|940|00:15:55|600So the Hierarchies are the aggregate of germ lives, and from them germinate all the forms on the 109|00:15:55|600|00:16:03|680various planes and sub-planes. So we're dealing really with dimensionalized 110|00:16:04|320|00:16:13|200monadic expression. Giving these aggregated germ lives, giving the impulse, providing the model, EA, p.49 111|00:16:13|600|00:16:20|460the etheric model, whether it's cosmic etheric or systemic etheric, and procuring, through their very 112|00:16:20|460|00:16:28|620existence, the entire raison d'être EA, p.49 the reason for being of all that is seen on all 113|00:16:28|620|00:16:38|760planes. EA, p.49 In other words, we're talking about the foundational lives which express through all forms 114|00:16:38|760|00:16:46|540on the cosmic physical plane. And of course, if we were talking about the other and released 115|00:16:46|540|00:16:51|360creative hierarchies, we could be talking about forms which express on the cosmic astral plane, 116|00:16:51|400|00:16:59|320but we have no idea really yet about what such forms might be. Because just as the astral 117|00:16:59|980|00:17:11|980plane has forms which are relatively fluid when compared to the forms found on the etheric physical 118|00:17:11|980|00:17:18|820plane, systemically considered, so the cosmic astral plane by analogy would have forms that are 119|00:17:18|820|00:17:28|140very cosmically fluid when compared with all the many forms found on the cosmic physical plane. 120|00:17:28|220|00:17:33|580This is an analogy, but I think it points in the right direction. Okay. 121|00:17:36|740|00:17:45|880Now, we seem to be ready to go on to hierarchy six and seven. They are the 122|00:17:47|640|00:17:55|900the non-self-conscious hierarchies. In a way, hierarchy five, being dual, has one 123|00:17:57|660|00:18:03|020grouping of lives within it that are not only self-conscious but super-conscious, 124|00:18:03|580|00:18:12|660and one lower grouping of lives which are not yet individualized. Hierarchies VI and VII. 125|00:18:14|440|00:18:24|180These sixth and seventh Hierarchies which provide the substance forms of the three worlds have a 126|00:18:24|180|00:18:33|100vital use and a most interesting place. EA, p.49 The substance forms. So they are the material, or at least 127|00:18:33|100|00:18:40|840express as the material out of which the forms in the lower three worlds, excluding the higher 128|00:18:40|840|00:18:53|160mental plane, take their origin. They are the forms through which various hierarchies express 129|00:18:53|160|00:19:00|440on the lower 18 sub-planes. Every time D.K. uses the word vital, watch out—he may be 130|00:19:01|000|00:19:09|020speaking etherically and pranically. This is one of the ways he can give a hint. They have 131|00:19:09|020|00:19:16|720a most interesting place. From the Logoic standpoint, they are not regarded as providing 132|00:19:16|720|00:19:26|500principles, EA, p.49 because after all, they are solely within the Logoic dense physical body, which 133|00:19:26|500|00:19:33|520is not a principle to the solar Logos, just as the dense physical body of a human being is not 134|00:19:33|520|00:19:39|740a principle with regard to the human being, though it may have been in the previous solar system. 135|00:19:41|680|00:19:46|440Yes, they are not regarded as providing principles but from the standpoint of man 136|00:19:47|720|00:19:55|840they do provide him with His lowest principles. EA, p.49 and the lowest principles of man— 137|00:19:56|500|00:20:00|760it depends on how you list them because they are differently listed in Cosmic Fire— 138|00:20:01|600|00:20:06|380but the etheric body is considered sometimes a principle, not just a vehicle. 139|00:20:07|280|00:20:16|100Prana is considered a principle, so that has to do with etheric flows in the systemic etheric body 140|00:20:17|040|00:20:25|260of which man's etheric body is a part. The kamma or desire is considered principle, so 141|00:20:25|720|00:20:35|540we have hierarchies providing that kind of astral energy, and also lower manas is considered to be 142|00:20:35|540|00:20:40|940a principle, and these hierarchies active within the dense physical body of the solar Logos— 143|00:20:41|720|00:20:51|760one of them also provides the energy of lower manas. They hold the same relation to the Logos 1|00:00:03|020|00:00:17|620as the dense physical body does to man, EA, p.49 That's what we were saying, and all that concerns the 145|00:20:57|380|00:21:04|340evolution of man must (in this particular place) be studied as going on within the physical, 1|00:00:03|020|00:00:17|620logoic vehicle. EA, p.49 Well, the physical Logoic vehicle concerns man as a personality—that's for sure— 147|00:21:12|040|00:21:21|380because the personality goes no higher than the 18th subplane. Let's try to make it a little 148|00:21:21|380|00:21:31|580bigger. It goes no higher than the 18th subplane of the three lower planes, so the personality 149|00:21:31|580|00:21:36|740focus and the lower mental focus is both on subplane number four, and that is certainly 150|00:21:36|740|00:21:42|920within the dense physical body of the Solar Logos and also within the dense physical body of the 151|00:21:42|920|00:21:53|980Planetary Logos also there. They deal with the display of physical energy; EA, p.49 Physical energy 152|00:21:53|980|00:22:01|420from the Solar Logoic point of view—from the point of view, physical energy even though it's 153|00:22:01|420|00:22:06|640astral and mental energy—to the Solar Logos, it's physical energy. They deal with the working out 154|00:22:06|640|00:22:14|660in the physical vehicle of all divine purposes, EA, p.49 within the physical vehicle of the Solar Logos 155|00:22:15|280|00:22:26|480and with the physical organisation of a certain great cosmic Life. EA, p.49 I guess to be unnamed—not named. 156|00:22:28|500|00:22:34|320We are sometimes told there is a great deva life which is the life of the dense physical 157|00:22:34|320|00:22:39|980vehicle of the Solar Logos, and the objective there is not to become trapped in the 158|00:22:41|140|00:22:49|760tendencies and the patterns of this great deva life, because that will mean the end of all 159|00:22:50|500|00:22:59|380proper evolution within this second major solar system. Particularly is this so 160|00:22:59|770|00:23:06|860when we view the two Hierarchies under consideration. EA, p.49 They are the lowest residue 161|00:23:07|650|00:23:16|620of the previous solar system. They develop to a certain point; they still remain part of the 162|00:23:16|620|00:23:23|920third aspect of the Solar Logos. They are in his dense physical vehicle, though we can question 163|00:23:23|920|00:23:30|020what their position was in the previous solar system when perhaps that dense physical vehicle 164|00:23:30|020|00:23:39|060was a principle. They are the lowest residue of the previous system, and the energy of that matter 165|00:23:39|840|00:23:49|080(liquid, gaseous and dense) which the vibration of the logoic permanent atom EA, p.49 correlated with 166|00:23:49|080|00:23:58|950Saturn and (on the plane adi) attracts to itself in the building of the divine form. EA, p.49 You know the 167|00:24:00|360|00:24:06|720human permanent atom—physical permanent atom—is found on the first atomic sub-plane of the 168|00:24:06|720|00:24:16|280systemic etheric physical plane. And when we… and the plane adi, we realize, is this higher plane 169|00:24:16|980|00:24:27|440where the Logoic permanent atom is found, and on what sub-plane one is not sure, but at least it is 170|00:24:27|440|00:24:35|980found on the plane of adi, which is the Logoic plane, and it attracts to itself in the dense 171|00:24:35|980|00:24:42|600physical body of the Solar Logos certain types of matter to build intended forms. 172|00:24:43|840|00:24:48|560Okay, so these two Hierarchies—the sixth Hierarchy of Lunar Lords and the 173|00:24:48|560|00:24:54|200seventh Hierarchy called the baskets of nourishment—are the lowest residue of the 174|00:24:54|200|00:25:00|300previous system and the energy of that matter—liquid, gaseous, and dense—which the vibration 175|00:25:00|300|00:25:04|760of the Logoic permanent atom on the plane adi attracts to itself in the building of divine 176|00:25:05|560|00:25:13|560form within the dense physical body of the Solar Logos. For purposes of clarification 177|00:25:14|700|00:25:18|460and of generalisation, it might be noted that the seventh Hierarchy 178|00:25:19|860|00:25:28|600is the life or energy found at the heart of every atom, its positive aspect, EA, p.49-50 This is a key definition. 179|00:25:28|600|00:25:37|360It might be noted that the seventh Hierarchy—the baskets of nourishment they are called— 180|00:25:37|360|00:25:46|360let's see what else they are called… one, two, three, four, there we go: they are called elemental lives, 181|00:25:46|360|00:25:54|260the baskets of nourishment, the blinded lives, ruled by Aquarius and the moon, and the colors violet. 182|00:25:57|060|00:26:05|380They are the life—the etheric life or energy—found at the heart of every atom. The life of 183|00:26:05|380|00:26:16|400the atom, it is implied, is etheric in nature and not dense physical at all. They are the positive 184|00:26:16|400|00:26:25|100aspect of every what we normally call physical atom, although there are etheric atoms as well. 185|00:26:25|550|00:26:36|600and the sixth Hierarchy is the life of the forms of all the etheric bodies of every tangible object. EA, p.50 —186|00:26:36|600|00:26:44|940and by that I assume we can mean the many life forms as well, because they are tangible objects. 187|00:26:44|940|00:26:53|060They are the life of the forms of all the etheric bodies of every tangible object. So 188|00:26:53|060|00:26:59|800somehow the work of the seventh Hierarchy is much more minute: it deals with the tiny atom. 189|00:27:00|540|00:27:06|760And the sixth Creative Hierarchy is the life of the aggregates of all these atoms as they are built 190|00:27:07|400|00:27:16|240into forms, both apparently inanimate and animate. The function of this Hierarchy is well described 191|00:27:16|240|00:27:25|380in the words of the Old Commentary: EA, p.50 well, we're not sure which one this is. It may be the… it may 192|00:27:25|380|00:27:31|060be the hierarchy which is the sixth grade of hierarchy. It seems he seems to mention the 193|00:27:33|540|00:27:38|840the seventh grade of hierarchy first, and this is really all he says about them. So whatever 194|00:27:38|840|00:27:48|100research we can do has to start from this point. “The devas hear the word go forth. They sacrifice 195|00:27:48|100|00:27:56|300themselves and out of their own substance they build the form desired. They draw life and the 196|00:27:56|300|00:28:06|680material from themselves, and yield themselves to the divine impulse.” EA, p.50 These are these hierarchies. So 197|00:28:06|680|00:28:12|780many of them are devic lives, and we're speaking here of the devic lives which build themselves 198|00:28:12|780|00:28:19|980into the lower forms, and especially the etheric aspect of these lives. If we look carefully at the 199|00:28:19|980|00:28:25|020map, we will see that 200|00:28:29|320|00:28:39|680the higher four sub-planes of each plane can be considered devic—in other words, devic and 201|00:28:39|680|00:28:47|580etheric. Etheric is what I mean. Um, sub-plane four, five, six, and seven—or we can call it four, three, 202|00:28:47|580|00:28:54|060two, one—are definitely etheric, and we're used to considering them as etheric. But when we get to the 203|00:28:54|060|00:29:02|100astral plane and we're talking about astral forms, we should think that they are built upon a kind of 204|00:29:02|980|00:29:08|940etheric aspect of the astral plane sub-plane—astral sub-planes four, three, two, one— 205|00:29:09|560|00:29:16|860and the same goes for the mental plane. In one respect, our fourth sub-plane, which is still within 206|00:29:16|860|00:29:25|700the lower three worlds, is considered etheric to the lower sub-planes. And as we can well imagine, 207|00:29:25|700|00:29:35|820sub-plane three, two, and one, within which the egoic lotus has this expression, are considered etheric, 208|00:29:38|320|00:29:44|960archetypal, molding, patterning, etc., to the lower three sub-planes of the mental plane. 209|00:29:45|680|00:29:56|720So they are called lunar lords—this hierarchy number six. But we're particularly interested 210|00:29:56|720|00:30:07|300in the way they build themselves into form, how they become the forms themselves. So again, 211|00:30:07|300|00:30:16|200um, what D.K. is saying here: they, the sixth Hierarchy is the life of the forms of all the etheric bodies 212|00:30:16|660|00:30:25|220of every tangible object. EA, p.50 So when he's talking about etheric bodies, we have to wonder whether 213|00:30:25|220|00:30:31|100he is confining himself to the etheric physical plane, or whether he is also bringing in the 214|00:30:31|100|00:30:38|800etheric aspect of the astral plane and even the etheric aspect of the mental plane. There are some 215|00:30:38|800|00:30:44|580there are some things here to be straightened out because the connection between Lunar Lords 216|00:30:46|180|00:30:53|020and the life of all forms—the life of the forms of the etheric bodies of every tangible object—a 217|00:30:53|020|00:31:03|660bridge has to be built between those two ideas. Let's see here… yeah, so as we see here, they are 218|00:31:03|660|00:31:15|820called Lunar Lords, and they have their own patterning nature. They have their own archetypal 219|00:31:15|820|00:31:25|280etheric nature, and they substand the forms that are found within the etheric physical— 220|00:31:26|140|00:31:32|760etheric physical dimension, the astral dimension, and the lower mental dimension. That's really all 221|00:31:32|760|00:31:43|640he gives. It's the… it's the realm of matter. D.K. pretty much has been writing a book on psychology. 222|00:31:47|080|00:31:52|640Even A Treatise on Cosmic Fire is a book on psychology. He does spend some pages dealing with matter per 223|00:31:52|640|00:32:00|920se in “Cosmic Fire,” but his is mostly a psychological approach from the second aspect perspective. 224|00:32:01|580|00:32:08|020He's dealing more with solar fire than with any other type of fire. So we find him giving less 225|00:32:08|020|00:32:16|580attention to the strictly material factors, especially the lowest factors concerning the 226|00:32:16|580|00:32:22|840residue of the previous solar system. This is all we really have on it, and when you think about it, 227|00:32:22|840|00:32:32|980this is the realm which modern science is beginning to, um, to study, to express within the 228|00:32:32|980|00:32:38|140etheric realm as well as the astral and mental realm. So we are just lifting the veil a very 229|00:32:38|140|00:32:44|080little bit, and this table of creative hierarchies is vast, dealing with all of these hierarchies of 230|00:32:44|940|00:32:54|900angelic and man-like lives, and our science is only slightly penetrating—just slightly. 231|00:32:55|480|00:33:01|740Okay, friends, well we have somehow, with of course much to be desired, 232|00:33:03|920|00:33:05|460studied the 233|00:33:07|760|00:33:12|94012 Creative Hierarchies over a number of these 234|00:33:14|760|00:33:21|060webinars, a number of these adventures. And hopefully there have been ideas, 235|00:33:22|220|00:33:27|420um, or thoughts at least suggested which can open some doors. By 236|00:33:27|940|00:33:33|860by no means have we solved some of the most demanding problems, 237|00:33:36|380|00:33:43|480among which is the true plane of expression of the solar Angel on its own plane, 238|00:33:43|480|00:33:47|280not the higher mental plane, but whatever plane it may be. And it may be buddhic, but 239|00:33:47|280|00:33:52|400uh, we have not solved that one. We have not solved the way in which the solar Angels 240|00:33:52|960|00:34:02|000represent the five liberated, one almost liberated hierarchy. We have not solved the issue of the 241|00:34:02|480|00:34:09|320second Creative Hierarchy being the prototypes of the monads, nor have we solved the 242|00:34:09|320|00:34:18|820manner in which monads appear through emanation from a higher source. I've always felt that the 243|00:34:18|820|00:34:28|680third Creative Hierarchy, called the triads or triad lives, are the source which provides the 244|00:34:29|260|00:34:37|060human monad with its triadic fields of expression, and that the second Creative Hierarchy 245|00:34:37|060|00:34:47|480provides the monads with its monadic field of expression, hence its vehicles. But the monad is 246|00:34:47|480|00:34:56|820the monad and has ever been so. It's hard to think of any hierarchy per se creating the monad because 247|00:34:56|820|00:35:06|000the monad, in a way, is the uncreated. When the Universa Logos or the Point comes forth, the 248|00:35:06|000|00:35:16|520Point appearing in be-ness—we might say “be-ness”: B-E and ness—that Point is the one 249|00:35:17|480|00:35:27|460Universal Monad, the pure being of the One Life. It is what I call the 250|00:35:28|340|00:35:37|900positude, having come forth from the Great Unknown. It is one monad, one 251|00:35:39|070|00:35:49|460item of pure being, one assertion of pure being, one positude, and all monads are that. 252|00:35:49|910|00:35:56|840And yet the mystery of subdivision through limited self-perception continues, 253|00:35:57|460|00:36:03|880because that's how I think emanation takes place: the will of the One Perceiver to limit its 254|00:36:03|880|00:36:10|440perception of itself. Every successive limitation of perception of its own nature 255|00:36:11|060|00:36:19|120becomes a new emanated entity. In other words, a psychological universe in which all actions are 256|00:36:19|120|00:36:24|730acts of perception. Down here, we think we act with our hands, with our legs, with, you know, 257|00:36:25|530|00:36:30|570we act with our organs of action, etc. But on the highest planes, actions are 258|00:36:31|730|00:36:41|830acts of perception—at least this is my theory—and the thing that seems to provide the 259|00:36:41|830|00:36:49|520greatest rationale for the modus operandi of our universe to me at this time. We go on 260|00:36:49|520|00:37:01|660to—are we on page 50? I think. Tabulation number three: a very important chart. It divides into 261|00:37:01|660|00:37:09|420dynamic energy and into magnetic energy. I believe… 262|00:37:13|820|00:37:24|300Hmm, it should anyway… oh yeah, oh yeah, magnetic energy! Okay, so we are talking about some of the 263|00:37:24|300|00:37:35|000major energies in our local cosmic system. Dynamic energy is obviously that of the will, that related 264|00:37:35|000|00:37:44|120to the first aspect, that related to electric fire, and the first 265|00:37:45|660|00:37:50|980the first part of dynamic energy… I may have to turn to… I may have to turn… 266|00:37:52|860|00:38:03|000electric fire… Yeah, okay. It begins with Sirius, interestingly enough. Perhaps in terms of Sirius's 267|00:38:03|720|00:38:12|980impact on our local system being put in the preeminent place, we have Sirius… 268|00:38:14|130|00:38:17|610Well, I think it's better if I go over here 269|00:38:21|330|00:38:29|700because this is just a little bit difficult to see. Here's Esoteric Astrology, page 50, 270|00:38:30|880|00:38:38|360and we'll go down a bit. Yeah, all right. It's a little smaller, but you can get the idea. 271|00:38:38|360|00:38:44|620It's laid out a little bit better. We have dynamic energy—the energy of the will. It's 272|00:38:44|620|00:38:49|720operating through Sirius, the Great Bear, and the Pleiades. Sirius is put in the first place, 273|00:38:49|720|00:38:57|040probably because of its amazing relationship to our Solar Logos and the fact that, though a dwarf 274|00:38:57|040|00:39:07|280star and hence a relatively minor Logos in the larger scheme of things, for us it is the 275|00:39:07|980|00:39:15|760monumental Logos. So it operates through the signs or constellations, rather: Cancer and 276|00:39:15|760|00:39:26|980Capricorn. And it further channels its energy through Saturn and the fifth Creative Hierarchy. 277|00:39:28|040|00:39:34|520But it's the fifth liberated Creative Hierarchy, or almost 278|00:39:35|660|00:39:39|180almost liberated Creative Hierarchy. This is—that's why it says 279|00:39:40|100|00:39:45|140it's the unknown. So if we look at the table of Creative Hierarchies, 280|00:39:46|280|00:39:49|740we will see that we are talking about 281|00:39:51|220|00:40:00|620this hierarchy: the fifth unknown, or the eighth. This is a profound chart in this case. 282|00:40:01|180|00:40:12|880Okay, let's look at that. So it works… Sirius is very important. Sirius is the Cosmic Christ 283|00:40:13|740|00:40:22|380from a certain perspective, and it's working through the two gates: Cancer, the gate into life 284|00:40:22|380|00:40:29|380of those who must know death, and Capricorn, the gate into life of those who know no death, and 285|00:40:29|380|00:40:38|320through the planet Saturn—one of three planets through which Sirius functions. And it is somehow 286|00:40:38|320|00:40:46|140energizing the fifth Creative Hierarchy, which is called “Veiling the Christ.” See that: “Veiling 287|00:40:46|140|00:40:53|320the Christ.” Saturn is not—Saturn is usually connected with the third of the manifested 288|00:40:53|320|00:40:57|660Creative Hierarchies. There must therefore be a connection between this fifth almost 289|00:40:57|660|00:41:04|640liberated hierarchy and the third of the manifested Creative Hierarchies ruled by Saturn. The Sirian 290|00:41:04|640|00:41:12|640energy, which is so important in sponsoring the solar Angels, is going through that particular 291|00:41:12|640|00:41:21|460hierarchy number five or ten, depending on which way you're counting, which is related to the fifth 292|00:41:21|460|00:41:28|540manifested Creative Hierarchy, which is number 10 or five. I think we can see this. In other words, 293|00:41:28|540|00:41:36|540this fifth Creative Hierarchy, whose numbers are in a way… uh, no. If his numbers are five and eight, 294|00:41:36|540|00:41:44|280okay, but the number five is there, not ten, is related to the fifth Creative Hierarchy 295|00:41:44|280|00:41:48|500whose numbers are… and I think I better make this a little smaller. 296|00:41:50|020|00:41:58|480Whose numbers are five and ten. I said earlier that Venus is the higher octave, 297|00:41:58|480|00:42:05|020the lower octave of Neptune, and Neptune the higher octave of Venus. So this fifth 298|00:42:05|020|00:42:10|860manifested Creative Hierarchy of solar Angels - the lower part of it anyway, higher part of it - 299|00:42:11|320|00:42:18|340is ruled by Venus. We discussed in an earlier webinar the crocodiles and the downward pointing 300|00:42:18|800|00:42:27|500of lunar nature, but this particular hierarchy is ruled by Venus, and its higher correspondence is 301|00:42:28|020|00:42:39|480Neptune, which rules the fifth almost liberated Creative Hierarchy. Okay, so this is all on the 302|00:42:39|480|00:42:46|100Cardinal Cross of liberated spirits, a cross which does not come into activity 303|00:42:48|720|00:42:54|460before the fourth initiation is completed. As a matter of fact, at the fourth initiation it's kind 304|00:42:54|460|00:43:01|740of an initiation of no man's land. The individual is not on the Fixed Cross; the individual is not 305|00:43:01|740|00:43:10|120yet on the Cardinal Cross. So we're talking about states of energy which far transcend 306|00:43:10|760|00:43:18|040the crucifixion of man and can only begin to be appreciated perhaps at the… at the mastership 307|00:43:18|040|00:43:24|500of the fifth initiation of man. So, uh, Saturn is one of the major conduits for Sirius, as is Neptune, 308|00:43:24|500|00:43:33|240as is Uranus. And the fifth Creative Hierarchy is particularly Sirian. That's what I want to talk 309|00:43:33|240|00:43:42|520about. This Cancerian caretaking energy is associated with Sirius, and the solar Angels 310|00:43:42|520|00:43:51|220down below, working with Capricorn, are responding very strongly to this, um, fifth almost liberated 311|00:43:51|220|00:43:57|460Creative Hierarchy because they are the great mothers or compassionate caretakers of man. 312|00:43:58|300|00:44:07|540Uh, so Sirius is working through that hierarchy. How interesting, because that is the hierarchy 313|00:44:07|540|00:44:14|460which is responsible for redeeming so much of what goes on below. It's a Christ-like hierarchy; 314|00:44:14|460|00:44:21|120its number is eight. Eight is one of the numbers of the Christ. It's also quite a negative number 315|00:44:21|120|00:44:28|300in the lower Scorpionic sense and relating to the eighth sphere and the rejecting lives. I'll 316|00:44:28|300|00:44:34|300call them the rejecting lives because they are rejecting before they are rejected. 317|00:44:36|480|00:44:40|860Cosmos is very fair, so if you make the right choices, you are never rejected. 318|00:44:41|640|00:44:45|940The great compassion does not want to reject any of its aspects. 319|00:44:46|660|00:44:53|100Well, even rejection is ascending back for re-education, really, until integration becomes 320|00:44:53|100|00:45:00|340possible. Then we have dynamic energy also pouring through the Great Bear. We see some people might 321|00:45:00|340|00:45:05|560think, “Well, Sirius is in the number one position, so it obviously represents the first ray, and the 322|00:45:05|560|00:45:13|940Great Bear, the second ray.” Well, if so, that would be a very special case. The Great Bear is also part of 323|00:45:13|940|00:45:19|660this dynamic energy. The three super-constellations, as we're told: Sirius, Great Bear, Pleiades - 324|00:45:20|160|00:45:25|040although, you know, on a higher turn of the spiral, I wonder whether the Little Bear should not be 325|00:45:25|040|00:45:33|680substituted for Sirius. I think it has a higher correspondence to Sirius. Anyway, the Great Bear 326|00:45:33|680|00:45:41|900working through Aries and Libra, and it's the second Creative Hierarchy. So these prototypes 327|00:45:41|900|00:45:50|860of the monads, um, which are definitely connected with the Planetary Logos, are working through, um, 328|00:45:52|540|00:45:58|440the second Creative Hierarchy. Interesting, because the Sun veiling Vulcan is found in association 329|00:45:58|440|00:46:05|560with the first Creative Hierarchy ruled by Leo. Great Bear and Leo have a special 330|00:46:06|820|00:46:11|660relationship, and so the Great Bear, I think, has a strong connection with the first Creative 331|00:46:11|660|00:46:18|140Hierarchy, but here it's given in connection with the divine builders or the prototypical 332|00:46:20|260|00:46:30|640hierarchy with… in relation to the human monads. Um, aha! No, no, no, no. I see what this is. All right, 333|00:46:30|640|00:46:36|480we're going up and not down. All right, that… that is a mistake on my part. I was in the realm of 334|00:46:36|480|00:46:47|780manifested hierarchies. No, instead we go up here; we go into this hierarchy. Aries and the Great Bear… 335|00:46:47|780|00:46:56|080There we go! That's more like it. I couldn't quite understand that, except in a way there is one way 336|00:46:56|080|00:47:07|800We can relate this. We can relate to number two. We can say that the monads 337|00:47:08|540|00:47:17|080are part of the Planetary Logos. They emanate in a way or are stored within the centers of the 338|00:47:17|080|00:47:22|600Planetary Logos, and the higher prototypes of the Planetary Logos are the Great Bear. So there we 339|00:47:22|600|00:47:29|020would have an alignment between the Great Bear, the Planetary Logos, and the second Creative Hierarchy, 340|00:47:29|020|00:47:36|120which is a manifested Creative Hierarchy which are the prototypes of the monads. But 341|00:47:36|120|00:47:42|360instead, we're going up into a realm which will be still more difficult to understand. 342|00:47:43|000|00:47:53|800It's Aries bringing in its sign Libra. Libra rules—we see the third manifested Creative Hierarchy. 343|00:47:53|800|00:48:01|260So the third manifested creative hierarchy is connected with the second unmanifested 344|00:48:01|260|00:48:07|200Creative Hierarchy. That means via Aries and Libra. Okay. 345|00:48:09|980|00:48:19|800Right, and this is a hierarchy which expresses itself in the following manner: 346|00:48:20|440|00:48:29|940unity through effort—Aries and Libra. So somehow this Great Bear, Aries, Libra 347|00:48:29|940|00:48:38|340relationship, working through the Sun and Vulcan, which sometimes represents the heart of the Sun, 348|00:48:38|900|00:48:46|140brings about unity through effort. And it's on the fourth sub-plane of the cosmic astral plane, 349|00:48:46|140|00:48:54|420and that is important because the fourth sub-plane of the cosmic astral plane is the one 350|00:48:55|260|00:49:04|140on which our Planetary Logos is fighting a great battle in order to achieve the kind of mastery 351|00:49:04|140|00:49:09|600which Venus has already achieved. So there are cross-pulls on this fourth sub-level of the 352|00:49:09|600|00:49:16|760cosmic astral plane, and the objective is to achieve unity through a great struggle. We assume 353|00:49:16|760|00:49:23|900that Aries and Libra are involved in that struggle, and the Sun can be considered the principle of 354|00:49:23|900|00:49:31|840unification in this respect. Okay. Okay, I think we'll have time to get through this— 355|00:49:32|620|00:49:39|540through it but not mastered, of course. Then finally, the Pleiades. In this particular map, it looks like 356|00:49:39|540|00:49:44|900Sirius represents the first aspect, the Great Bear the second, and Pleiades the third. But if we really 357|00:49:44|900|00:49:51|260look at it, it's all completely reversed. The Pleiades are really a master center, the hub of a 358|00:49:51|260|00:49:57|020cosmic wheel around which our Sun and a number of other solar Logoi appear to be evolved. So 359|00:49:57|020|00:50:01|460the Pleiades, considered as a whole, could be considered related to the 360|00:50:03|380|00:50:13|780related to the first aspect; Sirius, the cosmic Christ, to the second aspect; the Great Bear— 361|00:50:14|700|00:50:19|760well, sometimes to the first and sometimes the second, rarely to the third aspect. I understand 362|00:50:19|760|00:50:30|200how people derive this, though. The Pleiades are operative with respect to discipleship life. 363|00:50:30|760|00:50:37|180These relationships will be discussed later in the book. They are working through Gemini 364|00:50:37|180|00:50:44|300and Sagittarius, and they are working through the still—the liberated hierarchies. 365|00:50:44|300|00:50:51|320Gemini is the third of the fourth of the liberated hierarchies. It's on the 366|00:50:51|320|00:50:58|400sixth sub-plane of the cosmic astral plane, and we have here the sixth ray and desire for duality. 367|00:50:59|100|00:51:05|620Well, interesting—the sixth ray correlates with Sagittarius, and desire for duality correlates 368|00:51:05|620|00:51:12|340with Gemini. Sagittarius is the lunar is the sign or constellation associated with the lunar. 369|00:51:13|160|00:51:20|140So very interestingly, on the sixth sub-plane of the cosmic astral plane, there is a relationship 370|00:51:20|140|00:51:27|020to the sixth sub-plane of the cosmic physical plane. Let's see how this works out. Here is this 371|00:51:28|160|00:51:31|760here is this Pleiades, Gemini, 372|00:51:32|520|00:51:36|800Sagittarius relationship. Here's the Gemini part of it—desire for duality. It's on the sixth 373|00:51:36|800|00:51:42|960sub-plane of the cosmic astral plane. And if we go over here to the manifested creative hierarchies, 374|00:51:42|960|00:51:52|940we see the Sagittarius rulership of the sixth sub-plane of the cosmic physical plane. 375|00:51:52|940|00:52:02|100There's a great involvement here in desire and the struggle between two different types of desire. So 376|00:52:02|100|00:52:10|060one can see that some degree of pain must be involved in this. The fourth Creative Hierarchy 377|00:52:10|060|00:52:19|160still has an unknown name, but we sense this desire for one or other of the dualities, and we sense 378|00:52:19|160|00:52:27|580also that this higher or sixth—this higher or fourth grade of hierarchy, working through 379|00:52:27|580|00:52:33|740the sixth sub-plane of the cosmic astral, will be influential in relation to the astral plane. And it 380|00:52:33|740|00:52:41|460reminds me of the Path of Magnetic Work, which is the second path out of our solar system, and it 381|00:52:41|460|00:52:47|980goes to the cosmic astral plane. And from there, it presides over the maintenance of our astral— 382|00:52:47|980|00:52:54|240systemic astral plane—simplifying it, putting in the good energy, drawing off the bad. 383|00:52:54|240|00:53:01|480energy and, in general, taking care of the condition of our astral plane. 384|00:53:02|240|00:53:09|200Through which the lunar lords manifest particularly… I mean, when you look at… 385|00:53:09|720|00:53:15|620When you look at these Lunar Lords, the sacrificial fires, the planet Mars, the color red, 386|00:53:15|620|00:53:22|900much of the astral nature is suggested, and the comments here are water and the astral plane. 387|00:53:23|420|00:53:30|520So there's a… If we can do nothing else, we can draw a connection between this sixth, a lower 388|00:53:30|520|00:53:36|700Creative Hierarchy, and the fourth Creative Hierarchy on the sixth plane of the cosmic 389|00:53:36|700|00:53:42|080astral plane, which probably in a certain way would be called the sixth if we can continue to number 390|00:53:42|720|00:53:49|360on the higher two planes of the cosmic astral plane. Well, this is just setting up the conditions 391|00:53:49|360|00:53:57|380for understanding. Frankly, we do not have… we do not have the method of really fathoming what's 392|00:53:57|380|00:54:03|540being said here. All the above energies are called into play as far as man is concerned during the 393|00:54:03|540|00:54:14|560major initiations and upon the Path of Initiation. EA, p.50 So the Great Bear, Pleiades, and Sirius are not really 394|00:54:14|560|00:54:24|080called into… called into expression until we begin to take the third, the fourth, and the 395|00:54:24|080|00:54:29|840fifth initiation. Now, sometimes we have the problem with major initiations: what really are they? The 396|00:54:29|840|00:54:34|980major initiations are sometimes called initiations one through five, because there are 397|00:54:34|980|00:54:40|180minor initiations, for instance, between initiative… between initiation one and two. There are 398|00:54:40|180|00:54:44|540initiations on the astral plane; they are minor, and even before initiation number one, 399|00:54:45|260|00:54:53|440there are two minor initiations which have to do with the opening of various tiers of petals. 400|00:54:54|980|00:55:01|720So anyway, even the term “major initiations” is problematic, but since generally we are told that 401|00:55:01|720|00:55:07|440the energies of Great Bear, Sirius, Pleiades do not come into effect before the third initiation, we can, 402|00:55:07|440|00:55:13|720I think, interpret the idea here of major initiations as relating to initiation three, 403|00:55:13|720|00:55:20|520four, five, and beyond. Sirius is certainly called in at the transfiguration. 404|00:55:22|640|00:55:31|690Yes, and at every initiation following. The Great Bear, with its seven ray lines, may be 405|00:55:31|690|00:55:42|770called in at the sixth initiation, which starts us on a particular path: a particular monadic path. 406|00:55:44|750|00:55:55|350Pleiades… They bring in cosmic buddhi, and the truly buddhi initiation is the fourth. There are 407|00:55:55|350|00:56:00|570various ways, beyond my comprehension, that these greater energies can be used. 408|00:56:00|570|00:56:07|190I don't think they're necessarily confined to any one particular initiation. Probably the Pleiades, 409|00:56:07|190|00:56:12|610representing the One about Whom Naught May be Said, may be drawn in at some of the very highest 410|00:56:12|610|00:56:17|990initiations: maybe the seventh, maybe even the ninth. That would fit well, because there are nine 411|00:56:19|450|00:56:26|050major stars in the Pleiades—the seven sisters and their two parents—and it's the divine feminine, or 412|00:56:26|050|00:56:32|930as one of the very good astrologers has called it, the feminine. Okay, so the ninth initiation would 413|00:56:32|930|00:56:39|390be a good time for Pleiadian energy to be drawn in. So the higher initiations involve these 414|00:56:39|390|00:56:47|250three super-constellations. Well, okay… I thought we'd get through this particular chart before our time 415|00:56:47|250|00:56:58|590was up, but we will, in number 25, continue with it. And for the moment, then, we've been talking about 416|00:57:00|970|00:57:08|650three great types of dynamic energy operating through the three super-constellations, exalted 417|00:57:08|650|00:57:14|270in a way above the zodiacal constellations: Sirius, the Great Bear, and the Pleiades. 418|00:57:15|130|00:57:19|750And we've been trying to look at what order they might have. We've been looking at the signs 419|00:57:20|270|00:57:27|810that their energy is conveyed through and the planets through which they are conveyed. 420|00:57:27|810|00:57:31|870We didn't say much about Mercury, but it's sometimes called the star of conflict, and when 421|00:57:31|870|00:57:37|610we're dealing with the desire for duality, we have a great conflict set up through 422|00:57:37|610|00:57:46|010Gemini. So, Mercury certainly tries to mediate that conflict and bring about harmony through it. 423|00:57:47|530|00:57:51|530These expressions can be looked at in various ways. There's a 424|00:57:51|530|00:57:57|750very material aspect coming through the Pleiades; there's a very willful aspect coming through the 425|00:57:57|750|00:58:04|270Great Bear; there's a very strong love-wisdom aspect coming through Sirius, one of the versions 426|00:58:04|270|00:58:13|310of the Cosmic Christ. So, you know, the last word cannot be said about these things. All right, let 427|00:58:13|310|00:58:32|190us look at The Great Invocation. Okay, let's go. All right, here we are: The Great Invocation. 428|00:58:35|290|00:58:36|070Oh… 429|00:58:41|630|00:58:45|710From the point of light within the Mind of God, 430|00:58:46|380|00:58:52|670let light stream forth into the minds of men. Let light descend on Earth. 431|00:58:55|070|00:59:03|110From the point of love within the heart of God, let love stream forth into the hearts of men. 432|00:59:03|820|00:59:06|110May Christ return to Earth. 433|00:59:08|150|00:59:15|310From the center where the will of God is known, let purpose guide the little wills of men, the purpose 434|00:59:15|310|00:59:25|710which the Masters know and serve. From the center which we call the race of men, let the plan of love 435|00:59:25|710|00:59:31|150and light work out, and may it seal the door where evil dwells. 436|00:59:33|350|00:59:39|630Let light and love and power restore the plan on Earth. 437|00:59:56|610|00:59:57|730Oh. 438|01:00:12|150|01:00:24|450Okay everyone, we've… we're stopping on page, uh, 50 and we will continue also on page 50. 439|01:00:25|930|01:00:33|970And that will be it for the moment, and we'll see you in Esoteric Astrology Adventure number 440|01:00:34|890|01:00:43|73025. All right, which I hope will still take place today. We will see. Talk to you later, bye!
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