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1|00:00:03|300|00:00:08|280Okay, good morning everyone, at least this morning here in Arizona. 2|00:00:10|020|00:00:18|600And today is July the 26th, and we are continuing with our esoteric astrology adventures, number 3|00:00:18|600|00:00:21|78032 this time. We completed 31 last time. 4|00:00:22|420|00:00:31|600We were working on the way the constellations—he uses the word constellations rather than 5|00:00:31|600|00:00:50|720signs in this case—the way the constellations are related through shared rulers, in the 6|00:00:50|720|00:00:59|420case of the esoteric rulers and the hierarchical rulers, and we had just finished the hierarchical 7|00:01:00|120|00:01:08|300rulers and we had been comparing, looking at some of the hierarchies which are related 8|00:01:08|300|00:01:13|420through the rays of the planets which rule those hierarchies. 9|00:01:14|110|00:01:26|800This is a detailed study with deep implications for the development of knowledge of the creative 10|00:01:26|800|00:01:30|280hierarchies and knowledge of the deeper aspects of astrology. 11|00:01:31|240|00:01:39|080I think there is enough on the previous esoteric astrology adventure for you to gather something 12|00:01:39|080|00:01:39|480out of it. 13|00:01:39|480|00:01:48|280Now we will move on. We're on page 68, and I think we did read this note: Aries and Capricorn 14|00:01:49|100|00:01:54|040in conjunction with seventh and fifth ray energies stand alone. 15|00:01:54|160|00:01:59|820Well, Aries is hierarchically ruled by Uranus, which is from the solar perspective a seventh 16|00:01:59|820|00:02:05|760ray planet. Capricorn is hierarchically ruled by Venus, which from the solar perspective 17|00:02:05|760|00:02:13|820is a fifth ray planet, and there are no other normal planets that are expressing the seventh 18|00:02:13|820|00:02:23|840or fifth ray in any very powerful way, or in any way that we are using at this time 19|00:02:23|840|00:02:28|640in our work with astrology, although I did mention that Jupiter has quite a bit of the 20|00:02:28|640|00:02:31|720seventh ray connected with it. 21|00:02:32|840|00:02:44|120And some people suggest that the planet Sigma, which is again an undiscovered planet, but 22|00:02:44|640|00:02:52|900one for which there appears to be an ephemeris and which has a planetary period of some 13.5 23|00:02:52|900|00:02:56|460years, has much to do with the fifth ray. 24|00:02:56|460|00:03:07|440Okay, we will see how the information emerges as we begin to discover these undiscovered. 25|00:03:08|000|00:03:24|260Okay, now we have—let's see here—testing, testing, yes, okay. Now they carry on with 26|00:03:24|260|00:03:31|380something that we have been noticing all along: ray one, Taurus and Pisces through Vulcan 27|00:03:31|380|00:03:33|640and Pluto. Yes, that's correct. 28|00:03:36|000|00:03:40|480We've discussed that: Taurus ruled by ray one Vulcan, Pisces by ray one Pluto, so Taurus 29|00:03:40|480|00:03:43|620and Pisces are related in terms of world saviors. 30|00:03:44|860|00:03:52|780Now we have Leo and Virgo; they are related through Jupiter. 31|00:03:54|440|00:03:57|880The Sun rules Leo, ray two; Jupiter rules Virgo, ray two. 32|00:03:59|940|00:04:06|940Gemini, in the case of the hierarchical rulers, is related to Libra, but those two stood alone 33|00:04:06|940|00:04:13|320when we dealt with esoteric rulers, because again, ray five, Venus ruling Gemini, and 34|00:04:13|320|00:04:18|620ray seven, Uranus ruling Libra esoterically, stood alone. 35|00:04:19|040|00:04:24|720But now, here we are, with Gemini ruled by the third ray Earth and Libra ruled by third 36|00:04:24|720|00:04:25|280ray Saturn. 37|00:04:25|940|00:04:33|200When it comes to ray four, we have a relationship between Scorpio and Aquarius, hierarchically. 38|00:04:34|240|00:04:40|240Scorpio ruled by ray four Mercury and Aquarius by ray four Moon. 39|00:04:40|920|00:04:46|440And of course, the important thing is to not just look at the relationship between the 40|00:04:46|440|00:04:56|840constellations or signs, but to see the manner in which these creative hierarchies are inter-related. 41|00:04:56|840|00:05:03|940In our cosmos, everything is related to everything else, but sometimes there are special, especially 42|00:05:03|940|00:05:05|980influential, relationships. 43|00:05:06|740|00:05:13|080When it—we seem to have lost—yeah, ray five we don't have, of course, and ray six we do, 44|00:05:13|120|00:05:14|060ray seven we don't. 45|00:05:14|740|00:05:19|820Cancer is ruled by ray six Neptune, Sagittarius by ray six Mars, and we've discussed the relationship 46|00:05:19|820|00:05:23|040of that particular—of those particular creative hierarchies. 47|00:05:23|810|00:05:25|540All right. 48|00:05:27|080|00:05:39|340Now, in view of all the above, and starting with the basic fact of the great illusion, 49|00:05:40|360|00:05:52|140which I think is produced by the limitations of our perceptual capacity, although in a 50|00:05:52|140|00:06:00|000sense it is—it should be remembered that the accuracy of astrological prediction and 51|00:06:00|000|00:06:03|480interpretation will be based upon three factors. 52|00:06:05|080|00:06:11|780Number one: the potency of the thought forms which have been built up in connection with 53|00:06:11|780|00:06:12|640the twelve signs. 54|00:06:12|640|00:06:22|140And we are told that initially a hierarchy anchored on the subtle planes great thought 55|00:06:22|140|00:06:25|760forms associated with the twelve signs of the zodiac. 56|00:06:25|940|00:06:33|960I'm not sure when that happened because not always in the—not always in the history of 57|00:06:33|960|00:06:40|340humanity have the twelve signs been active in relationship to humanity. 58|00:06:40|340|00:06:48|620Well, the constellations of course have always been there, but the signs themselves were 59|00:06:48|620|00:06:49|340not influential. 60|00:06:49|520|00:06:54|960At first there were eight signs, maybe then ten, at one point eleven, and finally twelve, 61|00:06:55|240|00:06:56|680D.K. tells us. 62|00:06:56|720|00:07:02|960But at least the constellations were there, and one could anchor transforming thought 63|00:07:02|960|00:07:09|180forms—so thought forms which could somehow capture the energy and help to make that energy 64|00:07:10|180|00:07:12|380intelligible to the humanity of the period. 65|00:07:13|020|00:07:16|760I think I'll have to look that up, but it may have been in Atlantean times that this 66|00:07:16|760|00:07:21|100anchoring… Well, here it talks about it. 67|00:07:21|380|00:07:26|620These thought forms were originally constructed or anchored upon the mental plane—okay—by 68|00:07:26|620|00:07:29|500the hierarchy in Atlantean days. 69|00:07:31|440|00:07:35|280And they have steadily gained in power ever since, because we have all been, you know, 70|00:07:35|380|00:07:37|360contributing to them. 71|00:07:38|060|00:07:49|320So they have a way, as he says here, serving as focal points for certain forces and enabling 72|00:07:49|320|00:07:55|520the individual, for instance, to be in touch with great reservoirs of energy which then 73|00:07:55|520|00:07:57|180definitely condition him. 74|00:07:57|300|00:08:02|760Probably without those thought forms, it would be much harder for the energy of the constellations 75|00:08:02|760|00:08:13|700working through those areas of the Earth's aura which we call signs to reach humanity 76|00:08:13|700|00:08:15|500in a significant way. 77|00:08:16|980|00:08:20|760So now there are great thought forms related to the twelve constellations. 78|00:08:21|700|00:08:30|520I imagine in some ways they are very complex, with so much added to them, but probably the 79|00:08:32|080|00:08:36|940initial essential ideas are there, given by the hierarchy. 80|00:08:38|500|00:08:44|920So we're saying here the accuracy of astrological prediction will be based upon—okay—these 81|00:08:45|520|00:08:49|820thought forms. That's one thing: the thought forms which have been anchored upon the mental 82|00:08:49|820|00:08:52|320plane by the hierarchy in Atlantean days. 83|00:08:53|420|00:08:56|900Accuracy will also be based upon the intuition of the astrologer. 84|00:08:57|600|00:09:02|740The casting of the horoscope serves to put the astrologer en rapport with the individual. 85|00:09:03|440|00:09:10|060But this is of small service to either party unless the intuition and sensitivity of the 86|00:09:10|060|00:09:11|420astrologer is actively present. 87|00:09:11|680|00:09:16|300Well, in the old days we used to do all of this by hand. 88|00:09:17|200|00:09:19|140We did not even have calculators. 89|00:09:20|060|00:09:27|420Then came calculators and computers and astrological programs which did so much of the work for 90|00:09:27|420|00:09:27|560you. 91|00:09:27|860|00:09:32|860Sometimes I think in the hour it may have taken to prepare a natal chart, there was a 92|00:09:32|860|00:09:41|300growing rapport emerging between the astrologer preparing the chart and the individual whom 93|00:09:41|300|00:09:43|440the chart represented. 94|00:09:44|620|00:09:53|700In any case, there is a symbol before us, and this symbol is a symbol of rapport. And we've 95|00:09:53|700|00:09:58|960noticed—I think some of us who are astrologers—how we may be dealing with an individual and 96|00:09:58|960|00:10:05|940have a certain type of rapport, but via the chart we obviously see other things, more 97|00:10:05|940|00:10:12|960things, and seeing those things helps guide us into a deeper type of rapport with the 98|00:10:12|960|00:10:18|820individual. But obviously the new type of astrology is the intuitional astrology, and 99|00:10:18|820|00:10:21|320intuition and sensitivity are both required. 100|00:10:22|400|00:10:29|380So from that point of view, Neptune is a very useful planet to the astrologer, especially 101|00:10:29|380|00:10:40|000to the esoteric astrologer who is trying to touch into the deeper layers of the subject 102|00:10:40|000|00:10:41|760for whom he may be preparing a chart. 103|00:10:41|760|00:10:50|920And then accuracy is dependent upon the capacity of the astrologer in any specific period to 104|00:10:51|300|00:10:56|040respond to the changes which are all the time taking place. 105|00:10:57|680|00:11:02|340In other words, the astrologer reading hundreds of years ago would have had different conditions 106|00:11:02|340|00:11:07|520in which to read, different subtle energies reaching him than at the present time. 107|00:11:07|520|00:11:13|620And D.K. speaks of the gradual shifting and changing, such as the gradual shifting and changing 108|00:11:13|620|00:11:16|760brought about by the precession of the equinoxes. 109|00:11:17|420|00:11:26|740So a different degree of a particular sign is always presenting itself. 110|00:11:27|440|00:11:33|560For instance, at the moment we are probably in the last few degrees of early Pisces. 111|00:11:33|560|00:11:41|460Each degree having its particular quality and influencing the Earth for 72 years, approximately. 112|00:11:41|920|00:11:48|060So each degree influences for 72 years. 113|00:11:48|920|00:11:58|720And the precession of the equinoxes gives us a general relationship with the major sign 114|00:11:58|720|00:12:00|820which lasts 2,160 years. 115|00:12:01|480|00:12:09|040But there are decanates, there are half-decanates, light and dark faces of each decanate. 116|00:12:09|500|00:12:16|040There are Dvadashamsas of 2.5 degrees. We sometimes simplify that by simply calling them Dvads, 117|00:12:16|180|00:12:19|520D-W-A-D-S, and then the particular degree itself. 118|00:12:19|520|00:12:28|660And also, all the time the Earth and all life upon it is subject to the quality of particular parts 119|00:12:28|660|00:12:37|520of the major sign towards which the vernal equinox is pointing, or let's call it the constellation. 120|00:12:38|520|00:12:46|960Even though the size of the constellations is variable, in general we're all agreed to look at them 121|00:12:46|960|00:12:54|340as 30-degree segments of space, and the vernal equinox is oriented towards these segments of space 122|00:12:54|340|00:13:00|540and bringing in certain major energies and sub-energies and sub-sub-energies, all of which affect us. 123|00:13:01|460|00:13:05|500And we're talking about the slow shift of the pole of the planet. 124|00:13:05|620|00:13:12|140Well, this can be the wobble in a rightward direction of the pole. 125|00:13:12|140|00:13:21|340It turns in the opposite direction of the planet rotating and the planet revolving. 126|00:13:24|680|00:13:31|500Yes. Okay, so that of course is correlated with the precession of the equinoxes, 127|00:13:31|500|00:13:40|220but there's also other movements of the planets, kind of a back and forth movement of the polar axis, 128|00:13:40|220|00:13:45|960and that's called nutation, N-U-T-A-T-I-O-N. 129|00:13:46|420|00:13:53|880To this should be added that as man evolves, the mechanism of response, or the vehicles of consciousness, 130|00:13:54|280|00:14:03|680likewise steadily improves. So, today's human being is far more sensitive to these various types of energies 131|00:14:03|680|00:14:08|760than may have been the case in earlier times, and the astrologer has to assess whether 132|00:14:08|760|00:14:19|400his subject, the so-called native for which he is drawing the chart, can be sensitive to the potential energies. 133|00:14:20|340|00:14:22|800You know, there's lots of things that can reach a person. 134|00:14:22|920|00:14:30|660The question is, according to the form nature before us, can these energies reach that individual? 135|00:14:30|660|00:14:38|780If we try to use the sacred planets and even the hierarchical planets and the esoteric planets 136|00:14:40|400|00:14:47|080as important in the life of the average individual, we may be talking about something which is non-existent 137|00:14:47|080|00:14:51|920in his consciousness, even though present in space. 138|00:14:52|600|00:15:00|000Now, his reactions therefore to the planetary influence and to the energy of the various constellations 139|00:15:00|000|00:15:06|760mediated through the signs change with equal steadiness, and allowance must be made for this. 140|00:15:06|880|00:15:14|720So, we have to be very aware of the time in which we are casting the horoscope, the period, the conditions, 141|00:15:14|720|00:15:23|420the atmosphere, even the various ray cycles which are operative at the time of casting the horoscope, 142|00:15:23|680|00:15:31|800because the ray cycles will naturally influence how we receive the astrological energies. 143|00:15:33|200|00:15:40|280It is consequently essential that the modern astrologer begin to study the point in evolution of the subject 144|00:15:40|280|00:15:50|140prior to casting the horoscope. Well, you know, this was written 80 years ago, or almost so, in cases of part of the book. 145|00:15:51|560|00:16:02|260And this by now has become, for esoteric astrologers, an important statement, an important principle. 146|00:16:03|760|00:16:09|760We must study, to the degree we can assess it, and we cannot necessarily assess it with great accuracy, 147|00:16:10|420|00:16:13|720the point in evolution of the subject prior to casting the horoscope. 148|00:16:13|820|00:16:19|760But we do have the general sense of whether the person is functioning as a personality, 149|00:16:21|420|00:16:27|960and is following our personality desires which relate to acquisition in the three lower worlds, 150|00:16:27|960|00:16:33|500or whether that person is in process of awakening to higher values and possibilities, 151|00:16:33|680|00:16:45|840or whether that person is well on his way, on the path, and has been pursuing these higher values and possibilities for some time. 152|00:16:46|780|00:16:55|680At least those three categories we can probably assess, and we will interpret the horoscope accordingly. 153|00:16:56|640|00:17:03|040Going on, he must ascertain his approximate place upon the path of evolution. 154|00:17:04|700|00:17:11|880So are we dealing with an ambitious person? Are we dealing with, well even before an ambitious person, 155|00:17:11|960|00:17:15|560simply an average individual with no particular direction in life? 156|00:17:15|660|00:17:22|040Are we dealing with a strong lower ego, driven by a personal ambition? 157|00:17:22|040|00:17:27|500Are we dealing with an aspirant who is awakening? 158|00:17:27|920|00:17:33|460Are we dealing with a probationary disciple who is willing to be tested and struggling with those tests? 159|00:17:33|560|00:17:42|320Are we dealing with a disciple who is truly one-pointed and increasingly mentally focused? 160|00:17:42|500|00:17:48|000Are we dealing with an accepted disciple who has come on rapport with the ashram of a master, 161|00:17:49|320|00:17:53|680and who is now approaching that ashram and seeking to serve that ashram? 162|00:17:54|580|00:17:58|500Are we dealing at last with the probationary initiate of the first or second degree, 163|00:17:58|520|00:18:02|400or are we dealing with the true initiate of the third degree and beyond? 164|00:18:03|460|00:18:09|460Of course, maybe if we were, we would not be in such a position to be very useful to such an individual. 165|00:18:10|320|00:18:11|340Maybe yes, maybe no. 166|00:18:12|720|00:18:18|220So, the astrologer must ascertain the approximate place of the subject upon the path of evolution, 167|00:18:18|240|00:18:22|800and to this end, the study of the rays is most necessary, 168|00:18:23|280|00:18:29|720through an investigation as to the quality and characteristics and life objectives. 169|00:18:31|520|00:18:41|580So, these five books, of which Esoteric Astrology is one, are a five-fold treatise on the seven rays, 170|00:18:42|180|00:18:49|440and we cannot separate the study of the deeper type of astrology from the ray energies. 171|00:18:49|740|00:18:57|440I mean, we will see horoscopes that have many similarities astrologically, 172|00:18:57|440|00:19:04|360but the individuals express marked differences in their orientation and behavior. 173|00:19:05|020|00:19:05|800And why is that? 174|00:19:06|620|00:19:09|400That is the rays that are involved. 175|00:19:09|520|00:19:15|820No matter what the horoscope may be, if the individual is on the ray of the teacher, 176|00:19:16|220|00:19:23|440or on the ray of the director or leader, you cannot change those orientations, 177|00:19:23|440|00:19:27|420regardless of the chart with which the individual is presented, 178|00:19:27|860|00:19:32|760to help that individual move along the path towards that ray objective. 179|00:19:33|400|00:19:42|400The soul ray becomes all important, if it can be discerned, and eventually it will be discerned, 180|00:19:42|400|00:19:47|380and perhaps easier of discernment for more advanced people is the personality ray, 181|00:19:47|380|00:19:50|140and that has to be taken into consideration. 182|00:19:50|140|00:20:00|860It's, in a way, a higher order of understanding that we must come into rapport with, 183|00:20:00|980|00:20:06|120before we can interpret the astrological chart in the right context. 184|00:20:06|240|00:20:13|340I sometimes make the joke, you know, my daughter's horoscope is very similar to Otto von Bismarck. 185|00:20:13|460|00:20:15|720They have the Sun, Moon, and Ascendant in the same position. 186|00:20:15|720|00:20:21|240Okay. You know, probably some similarities. Even Mercury. 187|00:20:21|840|00:20:26|180So, my daughter is on the second ray, and Otto von Bismarck is on the first ray. 188|00:20:26|520|00:20:34|080Unless one knows those facts, even a similar horoscope can be misinterpreted, 189|00:20:34|080|00:20:41|380because you'll want to go in knowing the ray energies, and you will see then particular planets, 190|00:20:41|380|00:20:49|560which are of greater moment, because they are ray rulers, they conduct the ray energy. 191|00:20:50|660|00:20:54|920For instance, in the case of Bismarck, you know, one would have to examine very closely 192|00:20:54|920|00:20:58|580Vulcan and Pluto, first ray planets. 193|00:20:59|900|00:21:04|660And in the case of my daughter, let us say, Jupiter and Venus would be very important, 194|00:21:05|540|00:21:09|700conveying in different ways some second ray energy, as well as the Sun. 195|00:21:09|700|00:21:15|960So, okay, that's the principle. That's the principle. 196|00:21:16|800|00:21:19|220Page 70. Wow, are we making progress. 197|00:21:20|340|00:21:24|980I do hope that before long it is possible for us to finish this introduction, 198|00:21:25|660|00:21:30|660which has been wide ranging, and which, in the method that I use, 199|00:21:31|620|00:21:38|940takes in many other aspects of the teaching to be related to what D.K. says here about astrology. 200|00:21:38|940|00:21:43|480I'm making the assumption that many of you have read this astrology book, 201|00:21:44|280|00:21:48|240and that you study it, and that you know something about it, 202|00:21:48|480|00:21:55|180and I'm trying to correlate other factors in the teaching with what is said about the astrology. 203|00:21:56|000|00:22:00|020Astrologers will eventually be able to cast the horoscope of the soul, 204|00:22:00|990|00:22:04|860which is sensitive to different combinations of forces, 205|00:22:05|420|00:22:08|380to those controlling the personality life. 206|00:22:09|200|00:22:11|920Well, you know, it looks like a straightforward statement, 207|00:22:12|240|00:22:20|700but do we mean the horoscope of the soul in incarnation, 208|00:22:21|280|00:22:24|480which is representing that higher consciousness, 209|00:22:25|440|00:22:27|660which we call soul consciousness on the higher mental plane, 210|00:22:27|660|00:22:33|680or do we mean that the causal body was created at a certain time, 211|00:22:33|820|00:22:38|760and under certain aspects, under certain influences, 212|00:22:39|920|00:22:47|900and that that creation, the moment of creation of that soul consciousness, 213|00:22:48|920|00:22:56|140will somehow have its own horoscope to be compared with the many personality horoscopes. 214|00:22:56|140|00:23:00|040And then, you know, on the realm of soul there are many additions that occur. 215|00:23:01|180|00:23:08|080Every time you change a root race or a sub-race, the soul may in a way be differently configured. 216|00:23:08|940|00:23:11|320There may be a different soul orientation. 217|00:23:12|600|00:23:18|720So there is the personality, but there is also the growing consciousness, 218|00:23:19|800|00:23:24|240which represents the consciousness on the higher mental plane, 219|00:23:24|240|00:23:32|100and that perhaps is the astrology of the soul with which we are dealing. 220|00:23:32|820|00:23:36|320One day it may be possible to know the exact moment of individualization, 221|00:23:37|140|00:23:40|220which for those who are part of Earth humanity, 222|00:23:40|840|00:23:50|040took place over a 5,000-year period, 21 plus million years ago, 223|00:23:50|040|00:23:55|48021,688,345. I'm going to memorize that number 224|00:23:55|480|00:23:59|760and relate it to the year in which that section was written of Esoteric Astrology. 225|00:24:01|400|00:24:03|740But some of us were individualized on the Moon chain. 226|00:24:03|880|00:24:05|520What was the moment of individualization? 227|00:24:05|680|00:24:13|220What were the astrological aspects prevalent at the moment we could say we became a human being? 228|00:24:13|700|00:24:17|300Maybe some of us were individualized in the previous solar system, 229|00:24:17|300|00:24:25|500and how in the world would we be able to understand the egoic nature as developed at that time? 230|00:24:26|240|00:24:34|320So this simple statement, “the horoscope of the soul,” is subject to various interpretations, 231|00:24:34|960|00:24:44|080and some of the less remote and more present interpretations may be more useful. 232|00:24:44|080|00:24:57|680It can be, in a way, the inner directive for the indwelling consciousness during any particular incarnation; 233|00:24:58|000|00:24:59|460we may call that the soul. 234|00:25:00|020|00:25:06|700Anyway, different combinations of forces can be applied to the life of consciousness, 235|00:25:07|000|00:25:10|780the wheel of consciousness, or to the wheel of form, 236|00:25:10|780|00:25:17|480which is the wheel of the personality, and we have to learn what those combinations are. 237|00:25:18|840|00:25:30|320The disciple and the initiate respond distinctively to the incoming influence in a distinct manner— 238|00:25:32|140|00:25:35|260a discernible manner to the incoming influences, 239|00:25:35|260|00:25:43|760and their response differs from that of the undeveloped man, or later the self-centered person. 240|00:25:45|260|00:25:53|220The true personality thinks of itself pretty much as the center of its field of perception, 241|00:25:53|580|00:25:55|320the center of the world in a way. 242|00:25:55|940|00:25:58|940The undeveloped man has a consciousness much more diffuse, 243|00:25:58|940|00:26:07|280but in any case, the disciple's response will be altogether higher to the incoming energies, 244|00:26:07|660|00:26:13|780and it will affect areas of his energy system and chakras which are not affected, 245|00:26:14|660|00:26:21|680as those same energies impact the undeveloped man and the self-centered person— 246|00:26:22|200|00:26:25|420the energy systems of the undeveloped man or self-centered person. 247|00:26:25|420|00:26:28|440This will have to be recognized. 248|00:26:29|060|00:26:32|180So astrology, you see, becomes much more complex. 249|00:26:32|360|00:26:37|680It's not as if you could pick up a horoscope and only know that you're dealing with a human being, 250|00:26:38|340|00:26:45|000and then begin to accurately read the life of such a human being. 251|00:26:45|100|00:26:51|660You really have to come en rapport, and when we're thinking about the healing, 252|00:26:51|660|00:26:59|100the work of the healer, D.K. is saying, “Well, spend five hours in quiet thought 253|00:27:00|600|00:27:04|760concerning the subject with whom you are to engage in the healing process.” 254|00:27:04|980|00:27:14|060And I sometimes think if we had the time, that would be ideal—time ideally spent 255|00:27:15|600|00:27:19|440for those with whom we're going to come en rapport in the astrological sense, 256|00:27:19|440|00:27:27|640because after all, we are engaged in a way in psychological healing and reorientation. 257|00:27:28|700|00:27:35|500So some patience will be required. This is a very hectic time of human civilization. 258|00:27:35|720|00:27:40|020There are great cross-currents and competing energies, 259|00:27:40|020|00:27:54|360and man's life in the West and even in the East now is very upset, very disturbed and agitated. 260|00:27:55|040|00:28:01|500And it is difficult to come en rapport with the deeper energy patterns in such environments, 261|00:28:01|560|00:28:09|000but that will give way eventually to the promised period of peace and deeper sensitivity— 262|00:28:09|000|00:28:11|760I would assume accompanying the peace. 263|00:28:14|920|00:28:19|940So the disciple will respond in a certain way and initiate in a certain way, 264|00:28:20|020|00:28:22|560and so will the undeveloped man and self-centered person. 265|00:28:23|320|00:28:27|620This will have to be recognized and we have to know for whom we are reading. 266|00:28:28|640|00:28:30|460So let me just put that down. 267|00:28:32|580|00:28:36|420We must know for whom we are reading. 268|00:28:37|420|00:28:45|100Those who live below the diaphragm, and those who—what does that mean really? 269|00:28:45|620|00:28:53|900They react; their consciousness is filled with recognition of and response to the impulses 270|00:28:53|900|00:28:59|140which come from the chakras and organs below the diaphragm. 271|00:28:59|180|00:29:01|500That's what it means to live below the diaphragm. 272|00:29:01|500|00:29:08|780We all have our chakric energies below the diaphragm, but where is our consciousness focused? 273|00:29:08|980|00:29:09|940That's the question. 274|00:29:11|680|00:29:18|960Those who live below the diaphragm and who react to the incoming energies through the medium of the lower centers, 275|00:29:20|140|00:29:24|400so the plexus, sacral, spleen, and base of the spine, 276|00:29:24|940|00:29:30|460will have a very different type of chart to that of the disciple or initiate. 277|00:29:31|360|00:29:38|220Well, at least when we go in there, we will certainly, even if the chart looks the same in some cases, 278|00:29:38|960|00:29:42|640we will be emphasizing different factors. 279|00:29:44|000|00:29:48|620And different patterns will emerge and different triangles will be of importance, 280|00:29:48|840|00:29:51|500and the sun sign more so than the rising sign. 281|00:29:52|140|00:29:58|600It will require a different mode of interpretation using the ordinary rulers 282|00:29:58|600|00:30:01|040rather than the esoteric or hierarchical rulers. 283|00:30:01|260|00:30:07|480And he says, “I have referred to this before and would remind you of some of the points which I made.” 284|00:30:08|660|00:30:16|040It does serve us to be reminded of these points, and we need the specific examples, 285|00:30:17|880|00:30:21|760probably in this particular interpretation of esoteric astrology. 286|00:30:23|740|00:30:30|500Using the book in the way I am, I'm not going to get into the details of astrological interpretation 287|00:30:30|500|00:30:36|280in the same way as some of my colleagues are doing, and they're doing very well. 288|00:30:37|040|00:30:41|080Maybe we'll see if time allows; that might be possible. 289|00:30:41|160|00:30:49|160But I think there is a need to think very carefully, paragraph by paragraph, line by line, word by word, 290|00:30:49|160|00:30:51|940over what the Tibetan has said. 291|00:30:52|300|00:30:59|340We must ponder together on what he is trying to convey to us 292|00:30:59|340|00:31:08|260so that at least the major outlines of this great science come clearer to us. 293|00:31:08|360|00:31:16|560And then all the many detailed points of interpretation can be dealt with in specific contexts. 294|00:31:16|560|00:31:20|000I enjoy doing it too, but time is of the essence. 295|00:31:21|200|00:31:23|260So anyway, D.K. made these points. 296|00:31:23|800|00:31:28|860Disciples upon the path of discipleship, and some have said in this regard, 297|00:31:29|000|00:31:32|720accepted discipleship, are strongly influenced by Mercury and Saturn. 298|00:31:33|640|00:31:37|780One bringing illumination, that's Mercury, and the other offering opportunity. 299|00:31:37|780|00:31:46|060Well, Saturn doesn't offer the kind of opportunity to have every whim and every casual desire fulfilled. 300|00:31:47|480|00:31:58|680The kind of opportunity is to face those circumstances and overcome those conditions 301|00:31:58|680|00:32:04|700which prevent a fuller soul infusion. 302|00:32:05|460|00:32:14|260It's really an opportunity to move upon the path by facing the karmic and dharmic difficulties which must be overcome. 303|00:32:15|260|00:32:21|080So disciples upon the path of discipleship are strongly influenced by two quite mental planets, Mercury and Saturn, 304|00:32:21|120|00:32:25|840and that's why it really has to be the path of discipleship, 305|00:32:26|240|00:32:31|160not so much the path of probationary discipleship or the path of aspiration, 306|00:32:31|160|00:32:39|720where we are still quite astrally focused and fighting many battles in relation to our desire nature. 307|00:32:39|920|00:32:47|560Once our mind, in which the will is focused, has begun to be our main instrument, 308|00:32:48|280|00:32:55|400then Mercury and Saturn will be of real value, critical value to the disciple. 309|00:32:55|400|00:33:02|380And some have said that this only happens really on the path of accepted discipleship, 310|00:33:02|500|00:33:09|980which can occur, and I think usually does occur, somewhere from the middle of the period 311|00:33:09|980|00:33:16|300between the first and second initiation onward towards the second initiation, 312|00:33:16|360|00:33:20|040and maybe even to some extent after the second initiation. 313|00:33:20|040|00:33:26|640One can make much progress initiatorily without necessarily being an accepted disciple, 314|00:33:27|220|00:33:34|360which is a relationship that has to do with your particular karmic relationship to a master. 315|00:33:35|760|00:33:37|340So D.K. does differentiate there. 316|00:33:38|580|00:33:40|460Okay, here are the points he has made. 317|00:33:42|100|00:33:43|620Mercury and Saturn are influential. 318|00:33:44|560|00:33:52|520And number two, at the various initiations, the influence of the planets affects the candidate, 319|00:33:52|840|00:33:58|120the candidate to initiation, in a totally different manner than earlier. 320|00:33:58|820|00:34:04|520Within a planet, our entire range of possibilities and qualities, and not all of them get through. 321|00:34:04|920|00:34:11|740It all depends on the sensitivity of the form nature, the responsiveness. 322|00:34:11|740|00:34:19|140Cyclically, the energies from the constellations pour through the planetary centers. 323|00:34:19|440|00:34:27|260We've talked about them; there are continents, there are cities, there are kingdoms, 324|00:34:28|520|00:34:39|720and there are chakras located on the etheric planes, which can also be considered planetary centers. 325|00:34:41|380|00:34:48|520Okay, at the first initiation, these are important ideas here, 326|00:34:49|100|00:34:54|120and ones which are often reviewed in esoteric astrology classes. 327|00:34:54|640|00:35:03|880At the first initiation, the disciple has to contend with the crystallizing and destroying forces of Vulcan and Pluto. 328|00:35:04|160|00:35:09|520Vulcan particularly crystallizes and thereby sets up the possibility of shattering, 329|00:35:09|520|00:35:14|860and Pluto is very much the destroyer aspect of the first ray. 330|00:35:15|140|00:35:18|200Vulcan: a sacred planet. Pluto: a non-sacred planet. 331|00:35:18|960|00:35:24|500The influence of Vulcan, which can be symbolized in a way by the downward pointing arrow, 332|00:35:27|120|00:35:29|600which has kind of a V in it—V for Vulcan— 333|00:35:30|720|00:35:34|880the influence of Vulcan reaches to the very depths of the nature. 334|00:35:35|870|00:35:47|900The soul seeks to permeate deeply, and the will descends into the depths, so nothing is left untouched, 335|00:35:47|900|00:35:55|340while Pluto, a planetary influence which is used to operate in the depths, 336|00:35:55|880|00:36:01|060drags to the surface and destroys all that hinders in these lower regions. 337|00:36:01|060|00:36:06|460There are many things in the lower part of our aura which are unredeemed. 338|00:36:06|640|00:36:13|080You know, if you look at the aura egg, there's kind of a blackish-brown layer down there of unredeemed sludge— 339|00:36:13|720|00:36:15|980stuff that just hasn't been dealt with. 340|00:36:16|700|00:36:20|260And it's very interesting how Pluto throws things in your face, you know. 341|00:36:20|780|00:36:29|700When it is said that “the truth will out,” we're talking very much, I think, about the influence of Pluto. 342|00:36:29|700|00:36:39|040Under Scorpionic circumstances, one can suppress information and truth and keep things concealed, 343|00:36:39|160|00:36:45|740but there always comes a time under Scorpio and Pluto when that which is concealed rises to the light, 344|00:36:46|940|00:36:52|380despite what anyone tries to do to keep it hidden. 345|00:36:53|300|00:37:05|500So, we cannot go into the Chamber of Initiation with our aura filled with all kinds of unsuspected, unresolved issues. 346|00:37:06|220|00:37:16|420Those issues in the psychologist's office often come to the surface, or when you're talking to friends or people close to you, 347|00:37:16|420|00:37:23|880many things long hidden are evoked and brought into the light of day. 348|00:37:24|240|00:37:33|560And the light of day, interestingly, is that type of light which is particularly related to Scorpio, 349|00:37:33|700|00:37:37|340of which Pluto is one of the rulers. 350|00:37:38|460|00:37:44|100So, you know, we're drilling down; we descend into the depths through Vulcan. 351|00:37:44|980|00:37:51|720We have that will to penetrate to the depths so that the highest and the lowest can meet, 352|00:37:51|800|00:37:58|100and there, by that active will to penetrate, we find obstructions. 353|00:37:59|660|00:38:06|160And the obstructions cannot be left there; they have to be destroyed or reconfigured or integrated. 354|00:38:06|160|00:38:14|100They have to be made a part of the system; otherwise, a person remains as a non-integrated personality 355|00:38:14|100|00:38:16|280who cannot really undergo initiation. 356|00:38:16|880|00:38:21|800So this happens at the first initiation, and I want to say, as I think about it, 357|00:38:23|020|00:38:27|980that Vulcan and Pluto are active at quite a number of initiations. 358|00:38:29|440|00:38:34|740They are both active at the second and the third, I believe, and at the fourth especially. 359|00:38:35|580|00:38:46|680And even at the fifth, so the combination of these two first ray energies finds their way into a number of initiations. 360|00:38:46|940|00:38:50|620You know, at the second initiation, will power takes over from desire, 361|00:38:51|240|00:38:56|700and there is a cleansing and purging of the astral body under Pluto, but will over desire is Vulcan. 362|00:38:57|660|00:39:01|860And at the third initiation, the blinding light of Vulcan breaks forth, 363|00:39:01|860|00:39:11|940as Saint Paul experienced, and the Kundalini begins to rise, and that is related to Pluto. 364|00:39:12|660|00:39:19|840The ancient authority of the personality is broken; the will power comes in very strongly, 365|00:39:20|480|00:39:24|960and the depths are lifted up into the heights of the mountain top. 366|00:39:25|040|00:39:26|780Everything is lifted up to the mountain top. 367|00:39:26|780|00:39:31|020At the fourth initiation, the depths of aloneness are experienced, 368|00:39:32|700|00:39:38|060and you know, the disciple at that time is in a way between a rock and a hard place. 369|00:39:38|680|00:39:41|660This is the language of Vulcan. 370|00:39:41|860|00:39:48|240You're coming in touch with the mineral kingdom; the jewel and the lotus, ruled by Vulcan, is being revealed. 371|00:39:49|960|00:39:53|520The will to love is extremely strong. 372|00:39:54|020|00:39:57|380The heart of the sun is coming in, and Vulcan is connected with that. 373|00:39:57|760|00:40:07|020Vulcan has a number of different relationships, depending upon which of Vulcan's rays you may be considering. 374|00:40:08|700|00:40:15|920So, Vulcan places the individual in a state of great aloneness, where he must depend upon his own will power. 375|00:40:16|040|00:40:21|740And of course, Pluto is the power of death, and at that point, the personality is put to death, 376|00:40:21|740|00:40:28|020and also the causal body is put to death, and Vulcan also contributes to the shattering of the causal body. 377|00:40:28|880|00:40:33|860And when we come to the fifth initiation, that's the time when the base of the spine center, 378|00:40:35|140|00:40:41|320Perhaps in a Maya Verrupa, but not necessarily, is most potently activated. 379|00:40:41|480|00:40:48|000And Pluto rules this base of the spine center, and the rising of it, of its energy as Kundalini, 380|00:40:48|000|00:40:56|080all the way to the highest head center, often ruled by Vulcan, and being a center of purpose. 381|00:40:57|080|00:41:01|860The seven head centers are activated, the two higher head centers are activated, 382|00:41:02|080|00:41:08|140Vulcan is involved in this, and this is mastership when the sun blazes forth, 383|00:41:08|420|00:41:13|740and so often it is Vulcan that is veiled by the sun. 384|00:41:13|740|00:41:22|500And so I think I have demonstrated in kind of a quick review how the combination of Vulcan and Pluto 385|00:41:22|500|00:41:30|180are found at all the five initiations leading to and including mastership. 386|00:41:31|940|00:41:39|540At the second initiation, the candidate comes under the influence of three planets: 387|00:41:40|600|00:41:43|340Neptune, Venus, and Jupiter. 388|00:41:44|560|00:41:48|680The three centers, the solar plexus, the heart and throat are actively involved. 389|00:41:50|740|00:41:54|520Yeah, it's been questioned, you know, what is stimulated at the first degree, 390|00:41:54|660|00:41:57|700what is stimulated at the second degree by the one initiator, 391|00:41:57|740|00:42:06|260and I would have to say that both the heart and throat are stimulated at both of these initiations. 392|00:42:06|260|00:42:14|200Perhaps the birth of the Christ within the heart signals the importance of the heart center at the first initiation, 393|00:42:14|860|00:42:20|740but the throat towards which the sacral energy has been raised is also of great importance. 394|00:42:22|560|00:42:28|420At the second initiation, the throat center is very important because we have an intelligent disciple, 395|00:42:29|600|00:42:37|140we have the spiritual intelligence and a degree of mental illumination that's related to the throat, 396|00:42:37|200|00:42:46|360but we're dealing with a heart center activation because the astral body is no longer so full of personal desire. 397|00:42:46|580|00:42:53|100We have a death of personal desire and love energy infusing the heart, 398|00:42:53|220|00:42:56|560so therefore the heart center is active at the second initiation. 399|00:42:56|560|00:43:03|980In this particular case, Neptune is ruling the solar plexus because it's a sixth-ray planet 400|00:43:03|980|00:43:07|460and its second-ray nature is not considered in this context. 401|00:43:08|120|00:43:13|860So these are the three. Much transfer of solar plexus to heart at the second degree 402|00:43:13|860|00:43:19|220and much intelligent expression through the throat is involved. 403|00:43:19|220|00:43:26|480It's not the full mental polarization which occurs between the second degree and the third, 404|00:43:26|720|00:43:34|120midway between we are told, but it is at least a strong spiritual intelligence. 405|00:43:34|860|00:43:44|220Now there is a place in Esoteric Psychology One, if I can find it, which deals… 406|00:43:45|080|00:43:50|020Whoopsie, that's not what I wanted. Okay, now I'm going to have to try that again. 407|00:43:51|560|00:44:01|900Right, what I want to do, I want the machine to respond here, yes, it's coming in its own good time, 408|00:44:02|900|00:44:14|220Esoteric Psychology, and it will be Venus, Jupiter, and Neptune. 409|00:44:15|780|00:44:17|320I'll spell that correctly. 410|00:44:19|760|00:44:25|720Venus, Jupiter, let's just see, Venus and Jupiter, perhaps we'll find something there. 411|00:44:26|820|00:44:32|520Venus and Jupiter in relation to the vegetable kingdom, and here it is. 412|00:44:33|200|00:44:35|740This is page 246. 413|00:44:37|220|00:44:47|400What we have, the second initiation, the training for the second initiation brings him under Neptunian influences, 414|00:44:47|540|00:44:48|960that's why I couldn't find it under Neptune, 415|00:44:50|080|00:44:56|880Neptunian influences, with Jupiter and Venus contending for control. 416|00:44:57|980|00:45:08|160That is very interesting, because normally we think of these two quite second ray planets as quite cooperative with each other, 417|00:45:08|180|00:45:15|580and in certain ways they may be, but in the ancient mythology, that which emanated from Venus, 418|00:45:15|580|00:45:29|280and that which emanated from Jupiter, were fighting, and Venus was trying to raise the individual into the angelic state, 419|00:45:29|420|00:45:36|280a more celibate state, and Jupiter was calling for the worship of the ancestral gods. 420|00:45:36|480|00:45:44|080After all, Jupiter is exalted in the sign Cancer, which rules the four lunar vehicles, 421|00:45:44|080|00:45:50|820the three major vehicles and the personality considered as the synthesis of all of them, the personality elemental. 422|00:45:51|680|00:46:03|280So, he doesn't much say what this contending between them may be, whether they're fighting with each other, 423|00:46:03|340|00:46:12|380or they're somehow trying to elevate Neptune, but let's just say there's a lot of second ray and sixth ray connected with all of these planets. 424|00:46:13|360|00:46:16|640Neptune, a sixth ray soul and second ray monad. 425|00:46:16|740|00:46:27|360Venus, a sixth ray sub-monad, and a second ray as the major monadic ray, I do believe, with maybe a second ray personality. 426|00:46:27|840|00:46:35|760Jupiter, a second ray soul, and we might question the degree to which the sixth ray may be involved in its personality expression. 427|00:46:36|760|00:46:38|460Sixth and seventh ray are both involved with Jupiter. 428|00:46:38|460|00:46:44|740So, this is the other reference, then, concerning the second initiation. 429|00:46:47|840|00:46:55|880Neptune will be the solar plexus. It has to be raised up to the heart, which I think will be ruled by Jupiter in this particular case. 430|00:46:56|900|00:47:03|100So, a wider type of love will be required, and a wiser type of love as well. 431|00:47:03|100|00:47:11|340And Venus will work on the illumination of the mind, and will represent the throat center in this particular case. 432|00:47:12|280|00:47:17|920After all, Taurus does work through the throat center, and Venus is the ruler of Taurus. 433|00:47:18|060|00:47:25|120So, Venus, we must say, relates to the throat center, and especially to the power to speak the word of the soul, 434|00:47:25|260|00:47:29|960and to think the word of the soul, because Venus is relating to the solar angel. 435|00:47:29|960|00:47:37|320So, the solar angel is beginning to imbue the intelligence at the second initiation, and this is Venus' task. 436|00:47:37|740|00:47:43|600As well, it helps to tranquilize the astral vehicle. 437|00:47:44|760|00:47:50|240You know, so, obviously we have to go on a search sometimes for other correlated references. 438|00:47:50|360|00:47:58|080As a matter of fact, what I think I'll do is I'll copy this from Esoteric Astrology 246, 439|00:47:58|080|00:48:06|980and I'll put it here, next to this quotation. We'll do it that way. 440|00:48:07|680|00:48:19|280And that's EA 246. Of course, I should, in a way, make it red so it stands out from the others. 441|00:48:20|380|00:48:30|240Okay, let's see if I can put this back in this way, too. Okay. And we'll do it that way. Yeah. 442|00:48:31|620|00:48:41|120So, second initiation: many second and sixth ray planets. The changing of the character of the astral body is required. 443|00:48:41|120|00:48:48|300And these planets are particularly suitable to bring tranquility to the astral body, 444|00:48:49|840|00:48:56|120to bring the… make us subject to the light of the soul-illumined mind under Venus, 445|00:48:56|340|00:49:06|260and to bring in that larger type of non-exclusive, or rather inclusive love that Jupiter brings. 446|00:49:06|260|00:49:14|460Those are qualities of the second initiation. Then we go on here, at the third initiation. 447|00:49:16|180|00:49:27|660So important, this page 70 and 71. I have reviewed this page so often, trying to fathom what is being said here. 448|00:49:27|660|00:49:35|900At the third initiation, the moon, veiling a hidden planet, and Mars bring about a fearful conflict. 449|00:49:36|480|00:49:42|180But at the end, the man is released from personality control. Well, you know, Mars and Pluto are also active 450|00:49:42|180|00:49:48|120in stirring things up at the second initiation. Those are things to be overcome. 451|00:49:48|120|00:49:58|300But here they bring in a type of fear which probably arises… in this case I think it's Mars and Vulcan… 452|00:49:58|920|00:50:05|440a type of fear that arises when we think of relinquishing the entire personality, 453|00:50:05|920|00:50:10|320or at least living in a different center which we would call the soul center. 454|00:50:10|840|00:50:16|120We do not yet relinquish the entire personality until the fourth degree, 455|00:50:16|120|00:50:23|160but already we're seeing the handwriting on the wall. It says that the moon veils a hidden planet. 456|00:50:24|020|00:50:27|880Well, you know, the moon can veil Uranus, or the moon can veil Neptune, or Vulcan, 457|00:50:28|320|00:50:33|540but Uranus and Neptune are not hidden, and Vulcan is hidden. 458|00:50:34|060|00:50:39|740So I do believe that it's kind of a combination between the moon and the sun at this point, 459|00:50:39|740|00:50:44|800with Vulcan representing the sun, and the sun representing the soul. 460|00:50:45|060|00:50:52|340So it's a kind of a merging of the personality and soul. Okay, degraded audio. 461|00:50:52|820|00:50:58|800Alright, hopefully not. I will just continue the best I can as there's nothing else I can do, 462|00:50:59|660|00:51:03|120except to find out that I've been moving my mouth and nothing has been coming out. 463|00:51:03|240|00:51:04|380But hopefully that won't happen. 464|00:51:05|700|00:51:15|940So, at the third initiation, the dominating soul life, symbolized by the sun, which is expressing Vulcan, 465|00:51:17|640|00:51:23|400is brought into juxtaposition with the moon, representing the entire… all the lunar vehicles, 466|00:51:23|680|00:51:30|020and in a way the lunar vehicles must be infused by the energy of the solar sun, 467|00:51:30|100|00:51:32|340so we call that the soul-infused personality. 468|00:51:34|040|00:51:40|640So, in a way, on the top we have a combination of the sun, Venus, which is the hierarchical ruler 469|00:51:40|640|00:51:44|960at the third initiation in Capricorn: sun, Venus, and Vulcan on the top. 470|00:51:45|600|00:51:52|600And then we have the moon on the bottom to be infused and controlled, directed and dominated by these energies. 471|00:51:53|360|00:51:59|600And the moon and Mars represent the lunar vehicles, and the six creative hierarchies. 472|00:51:59|600|00:52:03|960So the six creative hierarchies undergoing a very specific change at that time. 473|00:52:04|100|00:52:06|360It is really finally dominated. 474|00:52:07|080|00:52:12|200The moon represents all the lunar vehicles, all of them, and that is the dense physical. 475|00:52:12|640|00:52:20|360It's related to the etheric and to the color violet, because those devas of the etheric planes, 476|00:52:20|560|00:52:24|240They have a moon on their forehead, which also means they have a forehead, which is interesting. 477|00:52:24|240|00:52:31|080The moon is obviously the astral nature, and the moon is the sensorium, the concrete mind. 478|00:52:31|220|00:52:36|700So the moon is all four, and interestingly, Mars is all four of the lunar vehicles. 479|00:52:37|420|00:52:42|280It is the dense physical body. It's not particularly related to the etheric body. 480|00:52:42|460|00:52:49|060It is absolutely the astral body, and it is the lower mind, because it rules concrete science and the five senses. 481|00:52:49|060|00:52:56|000So the entire personality, which is symbolized by moon and Mars, is being dominated by the luminous will 482|00:52:56|000|00:53:00|980of Vulcan with the sun, and Venus also associated. 483|00:53:02|180|00:53:11|600And that conflict, of course, is letting go, letting go of the grip of consciousness upon the personality. 484|00:53:12|680|00:53:17|880There's a way in which we are so attached to our elemental life. 485|00:53:18|600|00:53:25|180It is, in a sense, the not-self, but we consider it the self, and we're not willing to let go of it. 486|00:53:25|620|00:53:35|540So the disciple is rising and falling and rising and falling, symbolized in the ancient Atlantean chant 487|00:53:36|540|00:53:40|460by the bird which tries to fly free but always comes back to the branch. 488|00:53:40|600|00:53:46|520And that also describes, in a way, the glyph of Aquarius, rising and falling, rising and falling, 489|00:53:46|520|00:53:51|400with Aquarius prominent at the third initiation. 490|00:53:51|760|00:54:02|700But anyway, when we've managed to use the, to overcome Mars and make him our servant, 491|00:54:03|380|00:54:10|500a good soldier of brave, valorous personality, make it our servant, we being the spiritual will. 492|00:54:10|500|00:54:19|620Vulcan is the spiritual will, and it overcomes all aspects of lower desire, desire for the lower realm. 493|00:54:19|860|00:54:26|300So there's another conflict here between will and desire, just as there was in the second initiation, 494|00:54:26|520|00:54:32|940a conflict between will and desire, and that's when will really begins to take over at that second initiation. 495|00:54:33|600|00:54:40|020So at the end we are released from personality control, which would normally come under the impulses of Mars. 496|00:54:40|700|00:54:47|160We no longer follow those impulses; we no longer run with what the lunar vehicles indicate. 497|00:54:50|780|00:54:55|260Okay, now at the fourth initiation, we visit Mercury and Saturn again. 498|00:54:55|260|00:55:06|500This is different from the way Mercury and Saturn operated on the path simply of discipleship or accepted discipleship. 499|00:55:06|600|00:55:13|580It's a higher type of expression. We're no longer dealing with discrimination per se, 500|00:55:14|900|00:55:18|240well, what he calls it illumination and opportunity. 501|00:55:18|280|00:55:23|260We're not dealing quite with the same things, but with higher expressions, which I'll try to explain. 502|00:55:23|260|00:55:30|960At the fourth initiation, Mercury and Saturn again bring about great changes and a unique revelation, 503|00:55:32|680|00:55:39|040I suppose the revelation of the cosmic ethers, and the revelation of the transcendental mind. 504|00:55:39|580|00:55:42|500But their effect is very different to the earlier experience. 505|00:55:42|740|00:55:48|160So, as a disciple we have a discriminating mind, we are seeking the light, we are facing our karma, 506|00:55:48|180|00:55:51|240all of that is Mercury and Saturn fulfilling our dharma. 507|00:55:51|240|00:56:00|480But here, Mercury is the Buddhic plane, and Saturn represents all of the lower three planes, 508|00:56:00|740|00:56:05|300the dense physical nature, and it represents the complete fulfillment of the dharma, 509|00:56:05|740|00:56:11|820and the using of the scythe to separate the essential inner man. 510|00:56:11|820|00:56:22|180Saturn has that cutting motion; it separates the realm of Uranus from its own lower realm, Saturn. 511|00:56:22|880|00:56:29|200So Mercury is bringing in the illumination of the spiritual triad from the Buddhic plane, 512|00:56:29|360|00:56:37|620which correlates with the fourth initiation. Fourth plane, fourth initiation, man is released into the transcendental mind, 513|00:56:37|620|00:56:46|180the intuition of the spiritual triad, and of the Buddhic plane, and that comes under Mercury, 514|00:56:46|500|00:56:51|500a higher type of illumination. It's no longer the sun of mind, no longer the concrete mind, 515|00:56:51|780|00:57:02|920it's not even the abstract mind. It is the intuitive mind which blazes forth with that great heart stimulation at the fourth degree. 516|00:57:02|920|00:57:11|160And Saturn is again the spiritual will; it is the ruler of the etheric plane, 517|00:57:11|840|00:57:23|680and it is complete control and complete subservience, the complete submission to one's dharma, to one's true destiny. 518|00:57:24|780|00:57:37|300So there is here a kind of a buddhi-manas combination, and you have fulfilled your karma with respect to the lower worlds, under Saturn. 519|00:57:38|700|00:57:48|100A great deal of karma is fulfilled by the time the third degree is taken, but there is much of karma that a man takes upon himself at the fourth degree, 520|00:57:48|100|00:57:56|620which may be planetary in nature. And so there is a sacrificial submission to planetary karma under Saturn, 521|00:57:56|820|00:58:07|280and a great illumination of the triadic intuition and the triadic mind, which helps you think of yourself, not as an individual, but in planetary terms. 522|00:58:08|380|00:58:16|260Remember that Saturn does rule the atmic plane and the hierarchy of triads with which a man comes into contact. 523|00:58:16|260|00:58:29|500So in a way, the human being is sensing very much of his monadic nature, which is ruled by Mercury, which is the ruler of the hierarchy of human monads, 524|00:58:29|840|00:58:38|420and the triads are coming into power under Saturn, and that is a different kind of influence than in the lower realms. 525|00:58:38|420|00:58:48|300We see how many things Saturn can be. We may have just a little time here, not much, not much at all. 526|00:58:48|460|00:58:59|940As a matter of fact, I think I… let's save it for later. We have this marvelous discussion of the fifth initiation and Uranus and Jupiter, but I'll come back to that. 527|00:59:00|900|00:59:20|980So here this is Esoteric Astrology Adventure, and it is number 32, and we have gone from page 68 to page 71. 528|00:59:21|780|00:59:30|100We're actually sometimes making progress of three pages per adventure, so we are doing well. 529|00:59:31|660|00:59:43|160Okay, and here is The Great Invocation. From the point… from the point. The point doesn't have two i's; that's the problem. 530|00:59:46|180|00:59:51|160Alright, so our Great Invocation now. 531|00:59:58|920|00:59:59|800Om. 532|01:00:05|460|01:00:16|760From the point of light within the mind of God, let light stream forth into the minds of men. Let light descend on Earth. 533|01:00:20|080|01:00:31|020From the point of love within the heart of God, let love stream forth into the hearts of men. May Christ return to Earth. 534|01:00:33|940|01:00:44|880From the center where the will of God is known, let purpose guide the little wills of men—the purpose which the masters know and serve. 535|01:00:48|560|01:01:00|880From the center which we call the race of men, let the plan of love and light work out, and may it seal the door where evil dwells. 536|01:01:02|680|01:01:09|060Let light and love and power restore the plan on Earth. 537|01:01:13|660|01:01:15|060Om. 538|01:01:15|060|01:01:17|400Om. 539|01:01:23|420|01:01:24|820Om. 540|01:01:24|820|01:01:27|160Om. 541|01:01:33|920|01:01:35|320Om. 542|01:01:38|740|01:01:40|140Om. 543|01:01:47|340|01:01:51|440Okay friends, there we are. 544|01:01:54|300|01:02:10|180And we are now concluding Esoteric Astrology Adventure number 32, and we will continue with mastership, and the Jupiter and Uranus relationship to that particular initiation—amazing initiation. 545|01:02:11|080|01:02:19|080And it's so interesting that those two planets should be together as they were in the chart of H.P.B., just a conjunction in Aquarius. Quite amazing. 546|01:02:19|080|01:02:23|780Okay, we will see you before long. Okay, take care.

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