1|00:00:02|480|00:00:10|320Hello everybody, this is our 78th Esoteric Astrology adventure. 2|00:00:11|120|00:00:23|960We have been working through the Scorpio chapter after some pause, and here we have page 213. 3|00:00:23|960|00:00:31|740That's where we came to, and I think it is worthwhile to look at a little of what we said before. 4|00:00:33|580|00:00:42|920We're talking about the way that under the sixth ray, a religion such as Christianity can be slanted 5|00:00:42|920|00:00:49|740in a certain direction which was not at all intended by its founder. We're speaking of 6|00:00:49|740|00:00:58|580Saint Paul, who was a disciple at that time, moving towards the third degree, but having passed the second 7|00:00:58|580|00:01:09|880and intensely involved in the whole apparent conflict between the Judaism of the time, and the emerging sect 8|00:01:09|880|00:01:16|800within Judaism called… well, I don't know if it was called Christianity at that time, but it was an emerging 9|00:01:16|800|00:01:25|760sect that believed in the Master Jesus, or the Initiate Jesus, and his resurrection, and his promises, 10|00:01:26|060|00:01:36|920and that which the Christ said through using the body of the Initiate Jesus. Interesting that Jesus 11|00:01:36|920|00:01:48|760himself had taken not only the second initiation as Joshua, but the third initiation as Joshua the High Priest. 12|00:01:48|840|00:01:58|100And so we see that Saint Paul at the time was still an initiate of the second degree, though working through 13|00:01:58|100|00:02:09|140the third, and probably it is to be suspected taking the fourth initiation as a representative of the new sect 14|00:02:09|140|00:02:18|400of Christianity. It's interesting to see when those who are our present masters, the ones we work with most 15|00:02:18|400|00:02:27|420closely, when they took the various initiations. Apparently Master Morya, who may well have been Moses, 16|00:02:28|260|00:02:39|720took the third degree when receiving the law. Some think that was a very long time ago. Others place it more 17|00:02:39|720|00:02:52|340in the time of Joshua before the wandering in the wilderness, before the fleeing from the land of Egypt, 18|00:02:53|600|00:03:00|880or not before that, but following that episode of fleeing from the land of Egypt and wandering in the wilderness. 19|00:03:02|140|00:03:11|000So it was Saint Paul, says the Tibetan here, who gave the Scorpio Mars slant to the interpretation and exposition 20|00:03:11|000|00:03:21|620of the Christian teaching, and deflected—that's quite a strong word—deflected this interpretation and exposition 21|00:03:21|620|00:03:29|080of the teaching, deflected the energy of this teaching into channels of teaching which its founder had never intended. 22|00:03:29|080|00:03:39|340Elsewhere, D.K. tells us that in a way he emphasized the ancient blood religion of the Jews and also tried to, 23|00:03:39|340|00:03:51|300we understand, reconcile it with certain Hellenistic concepts. And this is the great warning I think to all of us. 24|00:03:51|300|00:04:00|720Such is often, he says here, the undesirable effect of the activities of well-meaning disciples. 25|00:04:01|120|00:04:19|860And in that time it was the apostle Paul as the unredeemed Saul, S-A-U-L, who was in a way a well-meaning disciple. 26|00:04:20|940|00:04:29|780Such is often the undesirable effect of the activities of well-meaning disciples upon the work which they undertake 27|00:04:29|780|00:04:35|160to carry on after the originator of some work for the Hierarchy passes over to the other side 28|00:04:35|160|00:04:39|400through death or relinquishes his task in order to take up other duties. 29|00:04:39|400|00:04:47|060So even on the road to Damascus the preparation for the third initiation may have begun, 30|00:04:47|060|00:05:00|940but Saul was undertaking that trip to Damascus mainly to challenge those who had undertaken the new allegiance to the new sect. 31|00:05:01|420|00:05:14|580So it was only after he was stopped by the voice of the Christ along the way that he began to undertake the dissemination of the Christian teaching. 32|00:05:15|720|00:05:24|580And even then, he was not fully influenced by the energy of love as later he came to be. 33|00:05:24|740|00:05:34|640So he was still extremely zealous and he transferred the same zeal with which he persecuted the members of the early sect, 34|00:05:34|640|00:05:46|260he transferred that zeal to the propagation of the tenets of that sect which he now accepted under the influence of that voice 35|00:05:46|260|00:05:51|180and the influence of the undeniable blinding light. 36|00:05:51|960|00:05:56|860So Mars can still be pretty strong at that stage of development 37|00:05:56|860|00:06:07|980and we understand that a hidden planet and Mars contend with each other at the time of the third initiation, 38|00:06:09|000|00:06:13|800with that planet probably being Vulcan and the spiritual will must win 39|00:06:13|800|00:06:22|920over the driving impetuosity and combative nature, a zealous nature of Mars. 40|00:06:22|920|00:06:28|260The zeal of course must be preserved in another way; it's not that we can ever relinquish our zeal. 41|00:06:29|360|00:06:38|960Master Morya tells us to apply fiery striving, always, and he's speaking I suppose to disciples of all kinds. 42|00:06:39|160|00:06:50|600It's just that the zeal is a burning sort of fuel to propagate the life which is basically directed towards still higher objectives 43|00:06:50|600|00:06:55|360but under the control of the soul or the love, wisdom, energy. 44|00:06:55|980|00:07:01|780So then we came to the end of Esoteric Astrology Adventure EAA 77. 45|00:07:03|220|00:07:06|800I divided it into two parts. It's basically a two-hour program, A and B, 46|00:07:06|800|00:07:17|220and we're beginning with EAA 78, section A of that. Each section of that type is about an hour long. 47|00:07:18|660|00:07:27|780I'm in a position here where the internet is slow and the conversion into a form, 48|00:07:28|300|00:07:35|560a program that all can use rather than just some, takes an inordinately long time, 49|00:07:35|640|00:07:44|240so sometimes I simply go ahead with a program of a number of hours to save the conversion time. 50|00:07:45|280|00:07:55|860And then I rely upon Brett, who is assisting me in all of this, to divide it into programs of smaller duration, shorter duration. 51|00:07:56|760|00:08:02|460So The blood theme and the death theme, these are very Scorpionic. 52|00:08:03|800|00:08:07|880the suffering and the dire testing of the disciple, 1|00:00:02|480|00:00:10|320the value of the individual conflict and the consciousness of the misery of existence 54|00:08:16|160|00:08:22|000are basically due to the combined influences of Scorpio and of Mars 1|00:00:02|480|00:00:10|320which have ruled Christianity for so long and which are only now beginning somewhat to lose their influence. 56|00:08:28|880|00:08:30|180And that was 80 years ago. 57|00:08:32|340|00:08:44|360We're reminded on the fixed cross, we experience: blinding light, Taurus; fiery pain, Leo; bitter woe, Scorpio. 58|00:08:45|520|00:08:48|060And that fits in with this blood theme and death theme, 59|00:08:49|360|00:08:54|680all of the pain of the required detachments. 60|00:08:56|080|00:08:58|900This is what we do experience, 61|00:09:00|200|00:09:02|520and the individual struggles on. 62|00:09:02|720|00:09:08|460I suppose in some way that's an improvement over the resignation, 63|00:09:11|090|00:09:19|100excuse me, to endless reincarnational opportunity as offered in Hinduism 64|00:09:20|240|00:09:22|460and in some forms of Buddhism. 65|00:09:23|960|00:09:32|740The adherents of those ways of life sometimes do not strive forward as an individual, 66|00:09:33|960|00:09:34|940as one must, 67|00:09:35|740|00:09:44|700and rely upon the slow processes, the inevitable reincarnational processes to bring them opportunity 68|00:09:45|400|00:09:48|300without a great deal of internal struggle and effort, 69|00:09:48|300|00:09:56|340which struggle and effort basically accelerate the process at a certain stage upon the path. 70|00:09:56|980|00:10:05|320I think so many people are now tired of this particular aspect of the Christian theme 71|00:10:05|320|00:10:14|380and are looking for its transition into a more universal religion of love 72|00:10:14|380|00:10:19|320which really serves the message of the Christ and not so much the message of Saint Paul, 73|00:10:19|500|00:10:24|980although Saint Paul at this time, as the Master Hilarion, would no longer agree, 74|00:10:26|200|00:10:29|660of course, because of his expanded perception as a master 75|00:10:31|140|00:10:35|060with the position that he propagated at that time. 76|00:10:35|060|00:10:38|900But thus it is with the masters: they are intense at a certain stage of evolution, 77|00:10:39|620|00:10:42|040they make a deep impression upon others 78|00:10:42|040|00:10:44|160and then later they become still more enlightened 79|00:10:44|840|00:10:49|900and have to deal with the karma of that which they set in motion. 80|00:10:53|120|00:11:01|240They set in motion certain energy streams which become part of the conditioning of humanity 81|00:11:01|240|00:11:06|200and then these are karmic factors in a larger sense, 82|00:11:06|200|00:11:12|760not so much the personal karma of things done wrong in the individual way, 83|00:11:12|760|00:11:17|340but they are undertaking the rectification of some of the karma of humanity 84|00:11:18|140|00:11:24|120for which they have been responsible. 85|00:11:25|820|00:11:31|300And we do find the Master Hilarion working closely with the Master Jesus at this time 86|00:11:32|220|00:11:34|780and some of his work is in the field of religion 87|00:11:34|780|00:11:40|920as he tries to undo much of the blind faith 88|00:11:41|580|00:11:45|840which he seemed to instil in people's consciousnesses 89|00:11:45|840|00:11:51|860and help them understand that religion is an aspect of science as well. 90|00:11:52|820|00:11:55|360The union of science and religion can be achieved. 91|00:11:56|160|00:11:57|540This he tries to do at this time. 92|00:11:57|540|00:12:00|720He has multiple activities. 93|00:12:00|880|00:12:05|780Thus it is with so many of the masters: their areas of interest are not all known to us, 94|00:12:05|780|00:12:12|260but they are not simply one-pointedly interested in only one thing. 95|00:12:12|460|00:12:17|640They have many abilities and multiple interests 96|00:12:18|460|00:12:25|180so that it's difficult to pigeonhole them and say they work only at this. 97|00:12:26|500|00:12:29|140A study of the processes of death 98|00:12:30|340|00:12:33|220as the sign Scorpio conditions them 99|00:12:33|220|00:12:34|920because there are other types of death 100|00:12:35|600|00:12:36|980conditioned by other signs, 101|00:12:37|680|00:12:43|000and the processes of death as we see them working out in the sign Pisces 102|00:12:43|000|00:12:44|380would be of very real value. 103|00:12:44|540|00:12:48|400We see that in each case Pluto is involved. 104|00:12:49|640|00:12:52|160Pluto has a somewhat higher ruler in Pisces, 105|00:12:53|360|00:12:55|240so Pluto involved, 106|00:12:56|100|00:12:58|720the esoteric and hierarchical ruler of Pisces. 107|00:12:58|720|00:13:02|240but a kind of special ruler in Scorpio. 108|00:13:03|120|00:13:06|600D.K. doesn't really call it orthodox or esoteric, 109|00:13:06|600|00:13:10|580but Pluto is a sub-ruler, 110|00:13:12|220|00:13:16|600the sub-ruler of its own alter ego, Mars. 111|00:13:17|240|00:13:20|560So in a way, Mars is to Pluto as Venus is to the Earth. 112|00:13:20|560|00:13:23|640Death through the influences of Pluto 113|00:13:23|640|00:13:27|200and death through the influences of Mars 114|00:13:27|200|00:13:28|640are widely different. 115|00:13:29|320|00:13:33|020And D.K. is going to perhaps explain this. 116|00:13:33|020|00:13:35|220There are subtler deaths involved, 117|00:13:36|900|00:13:43|060and the enhancement of the penetration of consciousness 118|00:13:43|060|00:13:45|980is promoted very much by Pluto. 119|00:13:47|280|00:13:50|360Mars leads through battle to revelation, 120|00:13:51|960|00:13:57|060but Pluto has this somewhat deeper effect 121|00:13:59|280|00:14:05|160and eliminates many obscurations to consciousness. 122|00:14:06|300|00:14:11|180Pluto, or the planet of death, as D.K. tells us, never destroys consciousness. 123|00:14:11|180|00:14:13|280When we see Pluto in aspect to Venus, 124|00:14:13|280|00:14:15|020it can mean many things, 125|00:14:15|020|00:14:17|680but the clarification of consciousness 126|00:14:17|680|00:14:21|120through the relinquishment of obscurations 127|00:14:21|120|00:14:25|900to soul perception is one of the things that can be meant. 128|00:14:27|920|00:14:30|720That's the thing about astrological aspects 129|00:14:30|720|00:14:34|820and positions in sign and houses: 130|00:14:34|820|00:14:36|380they mean so many things. 131|00:14:36|380|00:14:40|120It requires the intuition of the astrologer 132|00:14:40|120|00:14:45|360to determine what may be the meaning in the particular context, 133|00:14:45|360|00:14:54|120which is the individual or group being considered. 134|00:14:56|060|00:14:59|420So in a way, Mars and Pluto are widely different. 135|00:15:00|200|00:15:01|940Pluto is an esoteric planet, 136|00:15:01|940|00:15:07|940although it is less developed than Mars, 137|00:15:07|940|00:15:10|060which in a sense is its feature. 138|00:15:10|060|00:15:13|400So there are some enigmas surrounding Pluto. 139|00:15:13|400|00:15:17|320It's an esoteric planet but not yet a sacred planet, 140|00:15:17|320|00:15:22|360nor is its alter ego Mars a sacred planet. 141|00:15:23|020|00:15:24|340In the case of Venus and Earth, 142|00:15:24|340|00:15:26|080of course Venus is a sacred planet, 143|00:15:26|860|00:15:28|900and it is the alter ego to Earth, 144|00:15:28|900|00:15:31|420which is not yet a sacred planet, 145|00:15:31|420|00:15:33|020at least outwardly. 146|00:15:33|900|00:15:40|040Death in Pisces through the energy of Pluto is transformation— 147|00:15:40|840|00:15:45|200a transformation so vital and so basic that the 148|00:15:46|040|00:15:49|080Okay, death in Pisces through the energy of Pluto 149|00:15:49|940|00:15:55|580is a transformation and thereby, in a way, an enhancement of consciousness. 150|00:15:55|580|00:15:59|300And then D.K. is going to quote here some of the old commentary: 151|00:15:59|300|00:16:04|280a transformation so basic that the—and then quote— 152|00:16:04|280|00:16:07|520“… Ancient One is no longer seen. 1|00:00:02|480|00:00:10|320He sinks to the depth of the ocean of life; 1|00:00:02|480|00:00:10|320he descends into hell, 155|00:16:17|940|00:16:21|020but the gates of hell hold him not. 156|00:16:21|020|00:16:24|120He, the new and living One— 157|00:16:24|120|00:16:28|440and I assume then the transformed one— 158|00:16:28|440|00:16:32|320leaves below that which has held him down throughout the ages— 159|00:16:33|180|00:16:35|280that which has obscured his consciousness— 160|00:16:36|200|00:16:38|400and rises from the depths 161|00:16:39|580|00:16:43|040unto the heights, close to the throne of God.” 162|00:16:43|040|00:16:47|760Interesting that we can consider here Aries, Pluto, Shambhala. 163|00:16:49|120|00:16:51|940And that rising is a kind of resurrection 164|00:16:52|520|00:16:58|040connected with Aries, and Shambhala is the throne of God. 165|00:16:58|440|00:17:00|480So this Scorpionic experience 166|00:17:01|380|00:17:06|240leads to a resurrection in which Pluto plays a big part. 167|00:17:06|240|00:17:08|860It may be a non-sacred planet, 168|00:17:09|780|00:17:13|340but all planets are gods when compared 169|00:17:14|140|00:17:17|180to what the tiny human God is. 170|00:17:17|180|00:17:19|200They are great gods, 171|00:17:20|200|00:17:23|420and they each can have a very powerful effect 172|00:17:23|420|00:17:26|640upon the human soul and human monad. 173|00:17:28|440|00:17:31|760So the Ancient One in many respects is the personality, 174|00:17:31|760|00:17:36|400and Pluto brings death to those states of consciousness 175|00:17:37|300|00:17:39|620which are strictly personal and material 176|00:17:39|620|00:17:41|860and under the spell of the lower elementals. 177|00:17:41|860|00:17:45|540In this case, Pluto kills the moon, 178|00:17:46|440|00:17:50|620just the way the moon falls in the sign Scorpio, 179|00:17:51|260|00:17:53|060which is ruled by Pluto. 180|00:17:54|320|00:17:55|960So the buddhic consciousness 181|00:17:57|820|00:18:00|120eventually obscures all the illusions 182|00:18:00|940|00:18:05|960which have hitherto obscured soul and higher consciousness. 183|00:18:05|960|00:18:08|600“He sinks to the depths of the ocean of life,” 184|00:18:08|600|00:18:11|660so he goes all the way down to the lowest plane. 185|00:18:11|660|00:18:13|340We're not just speaking of water. 186|00:18:14|040|00:18:18|000We're speaking of matter as water. 187|00:18:18|000|00:18:20|840He descends into hell, which is the lower world. 188|00:18:20|840|00:18:25|180It's not just the hell of the lowest astral plane. 189|00:18:25|960|00:18:33|280It's the hell that exists in this frozen, external, material world. 190|00:18:34|440|00:18:37|160But the gates of hell, through which he has passed 191|00:18:37|800|00:18:39|260by coming into incarnation, 192|00:18:39|980|00:18:41|340hold him not. 193|00:18:41|340|00:18:43|720He returns. 194|00:18:43|720|00:18:46|780Those gates of hell now become the gates 195|00:18:48|700|00:18:51|000of entry into the mysteries. 196|00:18:52|040|00:18:53|140And he is transformed. 197|00:18:54|460|00:18:56|460He has shed his old skin. 198|00:18:56|460|00:18:58|660He has shed the lower 199|00:19:00|900|00:19:03|140vestures and their domination over him, 200|00:19:03|140|00:19:05|580and has now a new life. 201|00:19:05|580|00:19:09|360It's almost the way the poison of the serpent 202|00:19:09|360|00:19:12|780can become an elixir of life. 203|00:19:12|780|00:19:16|740Pluto is related to that process, and so is Scorpio. 204|00:19:16|740|00:19:20|400So he's now the new and living one, and he leaves below 205|00:19:21|420|00:19:25|420all those phases of consciousness which have obscured 206|00:19:25|420|00:19:28|860his higher potentials for consciousness, 207|00:19:29|480|00:19:34|400and rises from the lower three worlds, 208|00:19:34|400|00:19:38|480which are the dense physical vehicle of the Solar Logos 209|00:19:38|480|00:19:40|240and Planetary Logos, 210|00:19:40|240|00:19:41|620unto the heights. 211|00:19:42|600|00:19:46|580He rises through the cosmic ethers, 212|00:19:47|840|00:19:50|760and he is close to the throne of God. 213|00:19:50|760|00:19:52|120We don't know how close, but 214|00:19:53|360|00:19:55|900when we undergo the ascension initiation, 215|00:19:55|900|00:19:58|660we sit at the right hand of God. 216|00:19:59|420|00:20:02|320This may be on the monadic plane, 217|00:20:02|320|00:20:04|100or in the case of Christ, 218|00:20:04|660|00:20:05|960a seventh degree initiate, 219|00:20:07|020|00:20:08|820on the Logoic plane. 220|00:20:10|940|00:20:15|580So this is not simply the slaughter of the form. 221|00:20:15|580|00:20:18|120When we're dealing with slaughter, it is so Martian, 222|00:20:18|660|00:20:20|140and slaughterhouses, 223|00:20:21|780|00:20:24|580where the animal form 224|00:20:27|320|00:20:30|960is brutally separated from the animal consciousness, 225|00:20:32|260|00:20:37|800are ruled far more by Mars than by Pluto. 226|00:20:38|540|00:20:40|900The blood is flowing there, the red blood, 227|00:20:42|100|00:20:45|700and it's a symbol of the sacrifice of the animal nature. 228|00:20:45|700|00:20:48|320It also is coming to an end. 229|00:20:48|980|00:20:54|100D.K. talks about the cruel meat-eating groups of the last 500 years. 230|00:20:55|460|00:20:57|940They are barbaric in that sense, 231|00:20:57|940|00:20:59|980and there are many among us today. 232|00:21:02|020|00:21:06|180Although Alice Bailey said it's better to eat beef steak with a pure heart 233|00:21:06|180|00:21:11|660than to be a — well, I'll just paraphrase — a gossiping vegetarian. 234|00:21:15|640|00:21:19|060So the slaughter upon the battlefield of life, 235|00:21:19|060|00:21:23|260the slaughter in the slaughterhouses, is a Martian process 236|00:21:24|520|00:21:29|060rather than a transformational Pluto — Plutonian process. 237|00:21:30|320|00:21:32|900The veils are shed. 238|00:21:32|900|00:21:35|620The veils are penetrated by Pluto. 239|00:21:36|880|00:21:42|180This is not so much the case with Mars, but the battles — 240|00:21:42|880|00:21:46|300the pre-revelatory battles of Mars do wear away 241|00:21:47|200|00:21:53|360the veils so that revelation can come, the types of revelation we spoke of earlier. 242|00:21:55|040|00:22:00|600So anyway, the personality and its consciousness are obscured. 243|00:22:02|520|00:22:06|040Christ, we know, are told, he harrowed hell. 244|00:22:08|220|00:22:12|680The story goes that after his crucifixion — 245|00:22:14|020|00:22:17|740of course, it was technically the master Jesus who was crucified — 246|00:22:18|680|00:22:22|920the Christ went into the hell worlds, I suppose, of the astral plane 247|00:22:23|620|00:22:30|240and brought forth those who could respond to his message. 248|00:22:30|600|00:22:35|760And the Tibetan has assured us that our own lower world that we can virtually live in 249|00:22:35|760|00:22:39|360is a far greater hell — hell in its truest sense. 250|00:22:39|360|00:22:44|460So the very coming of Christ, working through the master Jesus, 251|00:22:44|460|00:22:50|160was a harrowing of our physical plane life — 252|00:22:50|940|00:22:56|240the hellishness of it — and the drawing forth magnetically and through the power of love 253|00:22:56|240|00:23:00|600of those who could follow him into higher worlds. 254|00:23:02|020|00:23:05|320So anyway, the old commentary that we've just discussed, 255|00:23:05|320|00:23:07|300The connection of these words with Christ, 256|00:23:08|140|00:23:11|860the present world Saviour, as there are many, many to come as well — 257|00:23:11|860|00:23:16|640is obvious in their implications, 258|00:23:18|500|00:23:21|680Christ ascended to the throne of God, and he, 259|00:23:21|680|00:23:26|940as the savior, he drew many after him in that direction. 260|00:23:28|620|00:23:33|380So — and yet they were written in our archives 261|00:23:33|380|00:23:37|840the Masters' archives over seven thousand years ago. 262|00:23:38|720|00:23:42|740So D.K. is writing at the end of the Age of Pisces, pretty much. 263|00:23:43|960|00:23:45|720And we might consider 264|00:23:48|740|00:23:55|820the 7,000 years would bring him into the Age of Aries, into the Age of Taurus. 265|00:23:57|800|00:24:03|200And either at the beginning of the Age of Taurus or the end of the Age of Gemini, 266|00:24:03|200|00:24:08|800it would seem, if we look at ages as approximately 2,160 years, 267|00:24:10|420|00:24:16|840or actually still more approximately 2,500 years ago, 268|00:24:16|840|00:24:22|620we may be beginning the Age of Taurus or ending the Age of Gemini. 269|00:24:22|620|00:24:28|800These are the shorter precessional ages, not the long ones of some 25,000 years. 270|00:24:28|800|00:24:35|680It would seem that during the Age of Gemini, much of importance to the Hierarchy 271|00:24:36|520|00:24:43|700would be written, as Mercury and Gemini are both signs of written communication, 272|00:24:43|700|00:24:45|060and placed in the archives. 273|00:24:45|760|00:24:51|800We don't know what culture, in which culture this may have occurred. 274|00:24:55|800|00:24:57|080It's worth pondering. 275|00:24:58|200|00:25:04|260I think that what we find in the ancient archives has come from 276|00:25:05|480|00:25:07|020many different ages. 277|00:25:07|020|00:25:11|840D.K. talks about writings that are Atlantean in their origin, 278|00:25:11|840|00:25:17|080that are older than Sanskrit, even older than the language Senzar. 279|00:25:17|960|00:25:30|580Probably in this archive are contents that may have even been contributed during the Lemurian root race. 280|00:25:32|260|00:25:34|740So one day these things will be made clear to us. 281|00:25:34|740|00:25:40|820Right now our task is to utilize what is presented to us in the best possible manner 282|00:25:41|740|00:25:47|660to achieve our own freedom and the freedom of all those we can influence. 283|00:25:51|480|00:25:54|080Death in Scorpio is of a different nature 284|00:25:55|860|00:25:59|240and is also described in the same ancient writing in the following words: 285|00:25:59|240|00:26:02|200So we've just been dealing with death in Pisces. 286|00:26:02|200|00:26:10|300It involves the later initiations in a way, released from the human kingdom altogether. 287|00:26:11|160|00:26:15|640It is the death through which a world savior passes. 288|00:26:17|180|00:26:24|700It reminds us of the idea that the final incarnation for some few acting very much on the will aspect 289|00:26:25|320|00:26:27|100is taken in Pisces. 290|00:26:27|100|00:26:36|620And there's a lot of finality and climax in what we have read above here, 291|00:26:37|180|00:26:49|080as Pisces seems to give way to Aries, where the ancient one sits upon his throne on the very highest plane, the Logoic plane. 292|00:26:50|030|00:26:54|530Now he talks about the death in Scorpio. 293|00:26:56|010|00:27:04|970The “… Ancient One dies by drowning. I suppose he is surrounded—well, let me read it first and then we'll analyze it. 294|00:27:07|130|00:27:12|010“The ancient one dies by drowning, Such is the test.—there's that word. 295|00:27:12|510|00:27:15|830The waters envelop him and there is no escape. He drowns. 1|00:00:02|480|00:00:10|320The fires of passion are then quenched. 1|00:00:02|480|00:00:10|320The life of desire ceases its appeal 298|00:27:24|950|00:27:30|450and to the bottom of the lake he now descends. 299|00:27:30|450|00:27:32|650It's not an ocean anymore, is it? 300|00:27:33|130|00:27:38|850Later, he re-ascends to Earth where the white horse waits his coming. 301|00:27:38|850|00:27:44|450aAnd this he mounts, proceeding towards the second death” 302|00:27:46|030|00:27:48|890(that is, towards Pisces). 303|00:27:49|610|00:27:52|850So there is the death of the personality here, 304|00:27:53|510|00:27:56|790or at least the death of the emotional vehicle and its desire body. 305|00:27:59|070|00:28:07|030And a preparation for the more ultimate death which leads to the release from the fourth kingdom of nature. Already, 306|00:28:07|030|00:28:13|950we're not there yet when we're talking about Scorpio, which is ruling the first three initiations and the second one particularly. 307|00:28:15|010|00:28:21|110So the ancient one is submerged in the waters of the astral plane. 308|00:28:23|450|00:28:33|670And all of the ancient emotional impulses surround him; he's completely engulfed. He drowns. 309|00:28:33|670|00:28:39|390But the fires of passion for lesser things are quenched, 310|00:28:41|090|00:28:48|470and he is purified of his desire for that which holds him to the earth. 311|00:28:49|790|00:28:55|450Mars and the fire of passion in Aries is a different type of burning, 312|00:28:55|450|00:29:01|670and even Mars as it operates for the average individual in the sign Scorpio, 313|00:29:01|670|00:29:05|110where desire can become incredibly insistent, 314|00:29:06|370|00:29:10|330is also different from the state that is here described. 315|00:29:11|670|00:29:19|330So the usual passions are quenched by this experience, this emotional experience, 316|00:29:20|230|00:29:24|330this submergence in all of the promptings of the astral plane, 317|00:29:25|490|00:29:29|150which are seen then as wanting. 318|00:29:31|910|00:29:40|050And he realizes that these very desires have been holding him to the lowest worlds. 319|00:29:41|110|00:29:45|270So they are seen as no longer appealing; he dies to them. 320|00:29:45|930|00:29:54|250This is what it means to have the death of the desire nature at the second initiation. 321|00:29:54|250|00:29:57|530I think it's pretty much the second initiation that we're dealing with, 322|00:29:57|530|00:30:03|110specifically, but we can apply it across the board really to all three initiations. 323|00:30:03|930|00:30:07|690The life of ordinary desire ceases its appeal, 324|00:30:08|830|00:30:14|050and to the bottom of the lake, I suppose the astral body, he now descends, 325|00:30:14|610|00:30:16|690finding all kinds of things there 326|00:30:18|210|00:30:20|090which have to be dealt with, 327|00:30:20|770|00:30:23|850which have to be raised up and expiated, 328|00:30:25|270|00:30:25|910transformed. 329|00:30:27|530|00:30:34|170The Scorpio individual discovers the depths of evil within his own nature, 330|00:30:35|550|00:30:38|350and no stone is left unturned 331|00:30:39|270|00:30:40|830when passing through this— 332|00:30:42|430|00:30:45|970well, let's call it in general a psychoanalytic process. 333|00:30:46|610|00:30:53|790The contents of the psyche are seen, analyzed, lifted up and expiated. 334|00:30:55|370|00:31:02|310So he goes through dealing with his emotional life and tries to, tends to 335|00:31:02|870|00:31:07|470reorient his desire nature because he no longer wants what is presented to him. 336|00:31:07|470|00:31:12|090His sense of values, his sense of values has been altered. 337|00:31:12|770|00:31:19|610He realizes that he is drowning, that he's in hell, that there is a higher and better life. 338|00:31:19|610|00:31:21|650Later he reascends to earth. 339|00:31:26|030|00:31:29|070Interestingly, Sagittarius, the sign of the white horse, 340|00:31:29|690|00:31:32|470is ruled esoterically by the earth. 341|00:31:32|470|00:31:39|950So after passing through this psychological internal subtle body crisis, 342|00:31:40|690|00:31:44|190he can again become effective upon the physical plane 343|00:31:44|190|00:31:48|150and no longer preoccupied with all 344|00:31:50|850|00:31:54|750that emotional drowning implies. 345|00:31:56|230|00:31:59|630It's a huge test to be surrounded by 346|00:32:00|410|00:32:03|190the errant desires of the ages 347|00:32:03|190|00:32:07|810which have been concealed during the ages, 348|00:32:07|810|00:32:13|250so that one doesn't even know that this aspect of the hydra really is lurking. 349|00:32:14|090|00:32:16|550When revealed, one has a tremendous battle. 350|00:32:18|250|00:32:23|890And that's why the second initiation is so very difficult to pass. 351|00:32:23|890|00:32:26|470The astral body is so very strong and unified— 352|00:32:26|470|00:32:33|550the only one of the human being's lower bodies that it actually is unified. 353|00:32:33|550|00:32:36|470There is a split upon the physical plane: 354|00:32:37|150|00:32:41|390physically-etheric. There is a split upon the mental plane: lower mind, higher mind. 355|00:32:42|230|00:32:44|770So the white horse is awaiting his coming, 356|00:32:46|210|00:32:48|890especially following the second initiation, 357|00:32:48|890|00:32:53|870and this amounts to proceeding towards the second death. 358|00:32:55|490|00:32:59|970And I'm reminded here of what is said 359|00:33:03|110|00:33:10|010about the relation of Sagittarius to Pisces. 360|00:33:11|150|00:33:12|730Let's see. 361|00:33:13|850|00:33:22|010Sagittarius—and it says here, “Sagittarius the disciple becomes the savior in Pisces.” 362|00:33:22|010|00:33:27|310So there is an orientation in these two Jupiterian signs— 363|00:33:29|190|00:33:37|430the orientation of Sagittarius towards Pisces just as it says here in the old commentary. 364|00:33:41|770|00:33:46|510Of course, as I said before, Scorpio is involved in all the three first initiations, 365|00:33:46|510|00:33:49|130and Sagittarius especially in the first two. 366|00:33:49|130|00:33:57|110But I think we're talking about a period here in which the purified individual, 367|00:33:59|110|00:34:04|550having relinquished, having died to the normal life of desire, 368|00:34:05|730|00:34:07|490becomes intensely aspiring. 369|00:34:08|790|00:34:12|430And Sagittarius is one of the major signs of aspiration, 370|00:34:13|790|00:34:15|830interestingly along with Taurus. 371|00:34:17|770|00:34:22|770And here he rides in a balanced manner 372|00:34:24|310|00:34:28|490towards the possibilities of the third great initiation. 373|00:34:31|050|00:34:38|210We're told that the third initiation is not approached necessarily from the heights of aspiration, 374|00:34:38|210|00:34:40|770but from the level table land. 375|00:34:40|770|00:34:50|330And across this level table land, the mounted disciple, mounted upon the white horse of the purified personality, rides with speed. 376|00:34:52|650|00:34:59|530So he moves rapidly towards the third initiation. 377|00:34:59|530|00:35:03|530And if we're speaking of the period that follows the third initiation, 378|00:35:04|290|00:35:06|410Sagittarius can be very orienting 379|00:35:07|370|00:35:15|410towards the fourth degree, which can be taken in relation to the sign Pisces as well as other signs. 380|00:35:16|310|00:35:19|450Gemini is interestingly involved there. 381|00:35:20|690|00:35:25|910A number of the signs can be found—Capricorn, Taurus, so forth— 382|00:35:26|410|00:35:30|470connected with this fourth initiation. 383|00:35:33|390|00:35:35|550So there are many implications here, 384|00:35:35|550|00:35:41|590but we see we undergo a tremendous subtle body purification. 385|00:35:42|490|00:35:49|330Kama-manas is purified—not only the astral nature but the way the mind is involved with the astral nature. 386|00:35:49|330|00:35:53|910A reorientation occurs; lower desires are relinquished. 387|00:35:53|910|00:35:57|390the lower fires of ordinary passion die out. 388|00:35:57|390|00:35:59|270Aspiration takes its place, 389|00:36:00|480|00:36:06|510and a speedy one-pointed progress of the one-pointed disciple towards higher destinations 390|00:36:07|930|00:36:15|790takes the place of the struggles within the depths that are common to Scorpio. 391|00:36:15|790|00:36:20|170So we've been given the ancient commentary here, 392|00:36:20|170|00:36:29|570and we see in a way that the kind of death indicated by the first of the commentaries is a higher death 393|00:36:30|390|00:36:35|350and really deals with ultimate release from the human kingdom altogether 394|00:36:35|350|00:36:37|870and release into the kingdom of God as a full member 395|00:36:37|870|00:36:45|390and finally a release into Shambhala itself, with which Pisces is associated just as is Aries. 396|00:36:47|130|00:36:49|610The kind of death we're dealing with here, 397|00:36:53|870|00:37:00|110the death by drowning in the ordinary passions, is of a lower nature 398|00:37:00|110|00:37:10|910but still gives us the initiatory orientation and orients us towards the third degree and beyond. 399|00:37:13|110|00:37:18|660So much is compressed within the old commentary. 400|00:37:18|990|00:37:24|210We see a number of different possible applications, 401|00:37:24|210|00:37:29|380and we try to bring them forward for our consideration. 402|00:37:31|190|00:37:34|710All of us at this time are supposed to be the one-pointed disciple, 403|00:37:34|710|00:37:39|470whether or not we are experiencing an incarnation in Sagittarius. 404|00:37:39|470|00:37:41|430Perhaps we already have; perhaps it's coming. 405|00:37:43|130|00:37:52|850We don't yet know the astrological configurations of our immediate previous lives 406|00:37:52|850|00:37:55|230and our immediate succeeding lives, 407|00:37:55|230|00:38:01|530but no doubt an examination of these configurations 408|00:38:02|690|00:38:08|290and an anticipation of what they will be, as the solar angel knows them 409|00:38:08|710|00:38:11|510to be impending, would be most interesting. 410|00:38:12|970|00:38:18|770So The reference here to Sagittarius is clear. says the Tibetan, is here to Sagittarius. It's clear, of course, 411|00:38:18|770|00:38:19|610that's the white horse. 412|00:38:20|570|00:38:23|810Just like the black bull and the white bull— 413|00:38:24|670|00:38:30|030if we're going to ride the bull to the, I suppose, the swimming bull 414|00:38:30|970|00:38:35|050to the island of the one-eyed men and become the true third degree initiate, 415|00:38:35|050|00:38:38|330it has to be the white bull, doesn't it? 416|00:38:39|010|00:38:44|030The disciple—after the death of the personality and after the killing out of desire— 417|00:38:44|030|00:38:50|430but since the personality is so very much centered in the solar plexus 418|00:38:50|430|00:38:52|130and involves kama-manas, 419|00:38:52|130|00:38:56|510sometimes the second degree is called the death of the personality, 420|00:38:57|110|00:39:07|970though it seems to me there is a type of personality death which relates to the third degree 421|00:39:09|610|00:39:13|610at which degree the personality loses its ancient authority 422|00:39:14|030|00:39:16|710over the consciousness of the disciple. 423|00:39:18|230|00:39:24|530And an actual physical plane death may be involved at the fourth degree, 424|00:39:24|530|00:39:28|310where the dweller, the personality, is completely sacrificed 425|00:39:29|270|00:39:34|530on behalf of humanity and its needs. 426|00:39:37|050|00:39:40|470So when we're dealing with the moon and Scorpio, 427|00:39:41|110|00:39:42|690dealing with the second degree, 428|00:39:42|690|00:39:46|950I sometimes wonder whether the entire personality is killed out 429|00:39:46|950|00:39:49|310or whether we have to wait a bit longer for that to happen. 430|00:39:49|310|00:39:52|900But certainly the desires, the lower desires, are relinquished, 431|00:39:53|330|00:39:56|130and higher desires take their place. 432|00:39:56|130|00:40:00|630There are still tests, personality tests, which lie ahead 433|00:40:01|450|00:40:04|670which, I think, demonstrate that the personality is alive and well, 434|00:40:04|670|00:40:08|770but at least its very lowest orientations are relinquished, 435|00:40:08|770|00:40:12|770and very rapid progress can be made after the second degree. We are told 436|00:40:12|770|00:40:17|830the disciple enters the stream and is purified in that stream 437|00:40:17|830|00:40:21|390and is swept along by the current of that stream. 438|00:40:22|530|00:40:27|350So the disciple, after the death of the personality and after the killing out of desire, 439|00:40:28|510|00:40:30|210each related to the other, 440|00:40:30|210|00:40:33|310goes on towards Pisces where again he dies 441|00:40:33|850|00:40:36|850“unto an eternal resurrection.” 442|00:40:36|850|00:40:43|670a resurrection into the true life of the realization of eternity, 443|00:40:43|670|00:40:47|190which is soul perception and triadic perception. 444|00:40:47|930|00:40:55|010And he is no longer condemned to the limitations of personality consciousness 445|00:40:56|670|00:41:01|910which obscure the eternal nature of life 446|00:41:01|910|00:41:10|970and make us believe in our own death because the personality is dying. 447|00:41:12|310|00:41:16|110In Scorpio there is the death of the personality, 448|00:41:16|990|00:41:20|010with its longings, desires, ambitions and pride. 449|00:41:20|010|00:41:25|850So some emotional factors are included here, 450|00:41:25|850|00:41:30|950but also mental factors and factors arising from the mixing 451|00:41:31|910|00:41:37|210the mama monastic mixing of mind and desire, ambition and pride. 452|00:41:41|710|00:41:49|110Although ambition or the love of power is relegated to the emotional heads of the hydra, 453|00:41:49|110|00:41:51|330and pride to the mental heads, 454|00:41:51|330|00:41:56|030so the different aspects of the personality, we have to die to them 455|00:41:56|930|00:41:59|450if there is to be the death of the personality altogether. 456|00:41:59|450|00:42:06|530And I would say it's far more complete at the third degree than it is at the second, 457|00:42:07|070|00:42:10|410though maybe the greatest of the battles occurs at the second degree 458|00:42:10|410|00:42:14|170because the astral body is generically so strong. 459|00:42:15|610|00:42:21|810In Scorpio there is the death of the personality with its longings, desires, ambition and pride. 460|00:42:21|810|00:42:25|910We learn a true humility. Hercules does kneel, does he not? 461|00:42:25|910|00:42:30|810And Capricorn is connected with the kneeling process as well: 462|00:42:30|810|00:42:36|470the great pilgrimage undertaken upon one's knees, 463|00:42:37|950|00:42:41|990without being able to locomote, 464|00:42:43|470|00:42:50|250definitely limiting one's speed in a deliberate manner, 465|00:42:50|990|00:42:53|170handicapping oneself in a way. 466|00:42:53|990|00:42:59|090The handicap seems to refer to the arms and the hands, 467|00:42:59|090|00:43:04|750but cutting off at the knees is also a kind of handicap, isn't it? 468|00:43:05|670|00:43:09|910In Scorpio there is the death of the personality with its longings, desires, ambition and pride. 469|00:43:09|910|00:43:14|390In Pisces there is the death of all attachments 470|00:43:16|250|00:43:19|490and the liberation of the soul 471|00:43:19|490|00:43:23|790for service upon an universal scale. 472|00:43:24|350|00:43:32|770And that cannot be—this scale cannot be achieved 473|00:43:33|390|00:43:39|450until the fourth and even better the fifth degree. 474|00:43:40|570|00:43:46|710The fourth degree is often taken in Aquarius. 475|00:43:46|710|00:43:50|110Aquarius can be taken in Pisces too. 476|00:43:50|110|00:43:55|410Aquarius is the sign of universality, universal love. 477|00:43:57|630|00:44:03|090So we're not just speaking of service to our immediate environment 478|00:44:03|090|00:44:05|970and those who are near us, 479|00:44:06|520|00:44:12|750but we're speaking as well of service on a grander scale to humanity 480|00:44:12|750|00:44:19|170and to the planet and eventually even beyond to the solar system. 481|00:44:20|270|00:44:23|010Two types of death, I think that's— 482|00:44:23|690|00:44:27|850one is in a way the death of the personality in Scorpio. 483|00:44:29|610|00:44:33|070But the ancient one, interestingly enough, 484|00:44:33|610|00:44:37|930can also be considered the consciousness within the causal body— 485|00:44:37|930|00:44:39|110ancient indeed, 486|00:44:40|470|00:44:45|050having been our place of retreat 487|00:44:45|050|00:44:47|990for millions upon millions of years. 488|00:44:47|990|00:44:53|570And that ancient one eventually dies. 489|00:44:54|190|00:44:57|150Consciousness limited by the causal body dies 490|00:44:57|150|00:45:00|530and is released into the realms of universality, 491|00:45:00|530|00:45:05|310which, for our purposes, as humanity can appreciate universality, 492|00:45:06|490|00:45:09|090those realms are the cosmic ethers. 493|00:45:10|130|00:45:12|470He goes on to say that Christ, in Pisces, 494|00:45:14|270|00:45:18|110exemplified the substitution of love for attachment. 495|00:45:18|890|00:45:23|250And of course the Buddha also relinquished attachment 496|00:45:23|970|00:45:28|510and substituted for it a great and profound wisdom, 497|00:45:28|510|00:45:30|270not devoid of love at all, 498|00:45:30|270|00:45:36|310but the greater emphasis for the Christ was upon the love energy per se, 499|00:45:36|310|00:45:38|510the love side of the love-wisdom energy. 500|00:45:39|110|00:45:47|470So Christ in Pisces exemplified the substitution of love for attachment. 501|00:45:48|370|00:45:51|110And it's such an interesting thing that 502|00:45:52|150|00:45:57|430the release of the radiation of true love does overcome attachment. 503|00:45:57|430|00:46:02|010So often we, the personality, in our personality identification, 504|00:46:02|010|00:46:05|850attempt to pry ourselves loose from our attachments, 505|00:46:05|850|00:46:09|110but we are then working strictly on the personality level 506|00:46:09|110|00:46:15|910with far less opportunity for success—likelihood of success. 507|00:46:16|630|00:46:19|530When we change our identification to a soul identification 508|00:46:19|530|00:46:22|670and can actually be love, 509|00:46:24|030|00:46:29|690then our attachments fall more naturally away. 510|00:46:31|490|00:46:34|940So, the substitution of love for attachment. 511|00:46:35|650|00:46:39|770I think we have to pass through the sixth ray phase 512|00:46:40|530|00:46:46|090as it is transformed into the second ray phase 513|00:46:46|090|00:46:49|450in order to understand this substitution. 514|00:46:50|350|00:46:54|790 Christianity here under the sixth ray as he's discussing, 515|00:46:54|790|00:46:57|790exemplifies the death of the personality, 516|00:46:59|310|00:47:04|310with individual and not universal implications 517|00:47:06|110|00:47:16|410So we first have to learn to abide the death of that with which we have identified 518|00:47:16|410|00:47:21|310for so many millions of years before we can be released into 519|00:47:21|870|00:47:26|950a more universal state of consciousness and effectiveness. 520|00:47:28|370|00:47:30|250And this is quite a statement here. 521|00:47:30|730|00:47:37|950You know, it is said to the sixth ray type in the 522|00:47:38|710|00:47:41|470sixth ray integration formula: “Love more 523|00:47:42|110|00:47:44|810your fellow men. Run not so straight 524|00:47:44|810|00:47:48|870the path. You are on leads to the outer circle of the will of God. 525|00:47:48|870|00:47:50|910The line goes forward to the outer rim. 526|00:47:51|930|00:47:54|030Stand at the center. Look on every side. 527|00:47:54|030|00:47:56|910Die not for outer forms. 528|00:47:59|230|00:48:02|950Forget not God who dwells behind the vision. 529|00:48:02|950|00:48:05|210Love more your fellow men.” 530|00:48:07|630|00:48:12|070So, one may love the ideal without loving one's fellow human beings, 531|00:48:12|070|00:48:14|550and here is what the Tibetan says: 532|00:48:14|550|00:48:17|470love has been conspicuously lacking 533|00:48:19|070|00:48:22|790and the controlling colour of Christianity has indeed 534|00:48:22|790|00:48:27|430been red.—Martian red.” 535|00:48:27|430|00:48:30|890Not something that we're used to thinking about, 536|00:48:30|890|00:48:34|310perhaps at Easter time or Christmas time, 537|00:48:34|310|00:48:40|210when the love energy is flooding the consciousness of the worshippers. 538|00:48:40|510|00:48:43|350But if we look at this with historical accuracy, 539|00:48:45|310|00:48:50|050then I think we will have to agree with the Tibetan. 540|00:48:50|050|00:48:55|510And there is a karmic price to pay. 541|00:48:55|510|00:48:56|810Some of it has been paid. 542|00:48:56|810|00:48:59|750There is a karmic price to pay 543|00:49:00|790|00:49:08|990for wielding this devoted, idealistic energy in a cruel manner 544|00:49:08|990|00:49:10|290under the red of Mars. 545|00:49:11|210|00:49:14|090It is not Christ's expression 546|00:49:15|010|00:49:18|130but the Scorpio-Mars presentation of St. Paul. 547|00:49:20|430|00:49:24|210And D.K. really draws a line here, doesn't he? 548|00:49:24|890|00:49:30|410Later, Saint Paul came into a tremendous realization of Buddhic love, 549|00:49:30|410|00:49:34|990and even now he is working with the Buddhic energy, we are told, 550|00:49:35|930|00:49:39|930with the revelation of that energy. Interesting for a fifth-ray chohan. 551|00:49:41|070|00:49:46|010You know, our limited conceptions of the rays and their interactions 552|00:49:46|010|00:49:48|390cannot fully reveal to us 553|00:49:48|390|00:49:51|550what a master on any of these rays may do. 554|00:49:52|410|00:49:56|530But it's been my theory that Paul, or Saul, 555|00:49:57|650|00:50:03|210was a sixth-ray soul who made his transition into a second-ray soul 556|00:50:03|210|00:50:07|290and then received this revelation of love. 557|00:50:07|290|00:50:10|190Is it in the thirteenth chapter of Corinthians, 558|00:50:10|190|00:50:14|550which stands out among all discussions of love 559|00:50:14|550|00:50:19|030as the most profound revelation of the nature of love? 560|00:50:20|850|00:50:24|370But the damage had been done, in a way, 561|00:50:24|370|00:50:32|630and his zeal is what impressed Christianity, to a great measure. 562|00:50:33|810|00:50:40|310And his later expression of the great value of love 563|00:50:40|310|00:50:43|370has been somewhat de-emphasized, 564|00:50:43|370|00:50:47|490except by those who really can understand the nature of the transitions 565|00:50:47|490|00:50:48|450through which he passed. 566|00:50:48|450|00:50:53|570So it is not Christ's expression, but the Scorpio-Mars presentation of Saint Paul. 567|00:50:54|710|00:50:57|630Mars has ruled Christianity 568|00:50:58|690|00:51:01|590because St. Paul misinterpreted 569|00:51:03|690|00:51:08|470the esoteric significances of the New Testament message 570|00:51:09|670|00:51:14|030and he misinterpreted because the truth—like all truths as they reach humanity— 571|00:51:14|810|00:51:19|250had to pass through the filter of his personality mind and brain 572|00:51:21|670|00:51:26|670which was highly conditioned by Judaism and by Jewish theology, 573|00:51:27|550|00:51:33|730and therefore by a method of thinking 574|00:51:33|730|00:51:39|610which was prevalent in the previous solar system 575|00:51:40|530|00:51:44|630and which was conditioned by the third aspect. 576|00:51:44|630|00:51:54|190So in many ways, Saint Paul complicated the message of the founder of Christianity. 577|00:51:56|190|00:51:58|630Misinterpretation—this means the lower mind. 578|00:51:59|710|00:52:02|530Well, let's just say Saint Paul was subject to illusion. 579|00:52:02|530|00:52:04|270He had not yet taken the third degree. 580|00:52:05|830|00:52:12|690And illusion is, to a great extent, expelled or dispelled at the third degree, 581|00:52:12|690|00:52:16|550though ultimately not until the ninth in terms of the cosmic physical plane, we are told. 582|00:52:17|310|00:52:21|810But as far as the usual illusions in which humanity labors, 583|00:52:22|910|00:52:25|890it is dispelled at the third degree. 584|00:52:25|890|00:52:31|990And he had not yet taken that degree when the damage was being done— 585|00:52:32|530|00:52:35|490the skewing, the misdirecting, the misinterpreting. 586|00:52:37|030|00:52:43|350Probably every master has something along this line to live down 587|00:52:45|110|00:52:50|250when he is not yet illumined in the third-degree sense 588|00:52:50|250|00:52:55|690and with zeal presents a certain way of life or a certain teaching. 589|00:52:56|510|00:53:02|230So the truth of the Christ was filtered through the personality, mind and brain 590|00:53:02|530|00:53:07|850which was conditioned strongly by the ancient Jewish approach. 591|00:53:09|390|00:53:14|570It was then unavoidably given a personal slant and twist 592|00:53:14|570|00:53:18|570because after all, Saint Paul was passing through great struggles as a Scorpion type. 593|00:53:19|770|00:53:24|250He gave us that struggling ray statement: 594|00:53:25|370|00:53:28|050essentially this, that the good I would do I do not, 595|00:53:28|050|00:53:31|050and the evil that I would not do, that I do. 596|00:53:31|050|00:53:36|550So wretched man that I am, who will save me from the body of this death? 597|00:53:39|050|00:53:45|570The emphasis then given to Christianity is one of the struggling disciple. 598|00:53:45|570|00:53:51|750I am sure it has had its value, but the simple message of “love one another” 599|00:53:53|330|00:53:56|130was not as strongly emphasized as it might be. 600|00:53:57|130|00:54:02|690So then the truth of the Christ was unavoidably— he said— 601|00:54:02|690|00:54:05|830because after all, we must pass through this area of limitation, 602|00:54:05|830|00:54:09|110and we become enthusiastic about a particular way of life, 603|00:54:09|110|00:54:11|170a particular teaching, and we want to present it, 604|00:54:11|770|00:54:15|190and we do present it. 605|00:54:15|850|00:54:21|310But what do we— what damage do we do in the presentation 606|00:54:21|310|00:54:27|510due to our own illusions, our still undispelled glamours, 607|00:54:28|110|00:54:31|470our undispelled glamours, our limitations of consciousness? 608|00:54:32|230|00:54:35|530So it was then unavoidably given a personal slant and twist 609|00:54:36|110|00:54:42|550and this is responsible for the sorry historical story of Christianity 610|00:54:43|390|00:54:45|750and the dire plight of the nations today— 611|00:54:45|750|00:54:50|890Well, he is laying a lot at Saint Paul's door, isn't he? 612|00:54:52|730|00:54:56|690And I imagine that the Master Jesus as a warrior, as Joshua, 613|00:54:57|610|00:55:02|310as a conqueror of the land, the promised land, 614|00:55:02|310|00:55:04|470which perhaps was not promised at all— 615|00:55:05|390|00:55:09|770the promised land being more Shambhala than a piece of territory— 616|00:55:11|290|00:55:14|710perhaps the Master Jesus as Joshua 617|00:55:16|670|00:55:22|150skewed certain world events in a direction that they need not have taken. 618|00:55:22|790|00:55:25|970So I think all of us have to be very, very cautious 619|00:55:26|970|00:55:31|470when we are affected by great enthusiasm and zeal 620|00:55:31|470|00:55:34|790under the sixth ray, 621|00:55:36|550|00:55:41|590because so often it is our virtues that are concealing vices, 622|00:55:41|590|00:55:45|230and if there is overemphasis upon a particular virtue, 623|00:55:45|230|00:55:48|930it becomes, through imbalance, a vice. 624|00:55:50|430|00:55:53|010I personally take this as quite a warning 625|00:55:54|250|00:56:02|900and I'm sure there are many among us who can apply this to our own discipleship service. 626|00:56:06|230|00:56:08|710So this skewing of the truth, 627|00:56:09|390|00:56:10|970this filtering of the truth, 628|00:56:10|970|00:56:13|750this slanting and twisting of the truth 629|00:56:14|750|00:56:19|730is responsible for the sorry historical story of Christianity 630|00:56:20|750|00:56:23|550and even the dire plight of the nations today, 631|00:56:23|550|00:56:28|850which I suppose are involved, or were involved at that time and still are to a degree, 632|00:56:29|570|00:56:33|790in the wars arising from conflicts of idealism. 633|00:56:33|790|00:56:36|590They are not dealing with each other 634|00:56:36|590|00:56:38|550in love and consideration. 635|00:56:39|490|00:56:41|750They are dealing with each other 636|00:56:42|370|00:56:44|770through the attempt to impose their idealism 637|00:56:46|290|00:56:49|950upon the others which do not share that idealism. 638|00:56:50|270|00:56:54|110It's a very limited point of view, but very self-justifying. 639|00:56:54|670|00:56:56|110It feels right 640|00:56:56|650|00:56:58|670because there is a great surety 641|00:56:59|730|00:57:01|730concerning the idealism 642|00:57:02|310|00:57:04|690of any particular individual or nation. 643|00:57:04|690|00:57:06|510He is blinded from doubt, 644|00:57:06|510|00:57:10|230and doubt can be so healthy— it causes self-examination. 645|00:57:10|770|00:57:12|870There is no doubt in the inadequately 646|00:57:15|470|00:57:16|830psychologized attitude 647|00:57:17|730|00:57:19|430of the sixth ray fanatic. 648|00:57:20|590|00:57:22|050When doubt enters, 649|00:57:22|830|00:57:24|910a new state can supervene. 650|00:57:26|970|00:57:31|250And so we have many ostensibly Christian nations 651|00:57:32|050|00:57:34|530suppose we are looking at Europe particularly here— 652|00:57:34|690|00:57:36|910yet swept by hate, 653|00:57:37|750|00:57:38|990ruled by fear 654|00:57:39|770|00:57:41|190These are Martian 655|00:57:42|630|00:57:45|810qualities, reminding me of the 656|00:57:45|810|00:57:48|010satellites of Mars: 657|00:57:48|770|00:57:50|130Deimos and Phobos. 658|00:57:50|770|00:57:52|110I suppose, 659|00:57:52|770|00:57:54|370fear and 660|00:57:54|370|00:57:56|090hatred. 661|00:57:56|770|00:57:59|170And at the same time, 662|00:57:59|770|00:58:02|210swept by idealism. 663|00:58:04|690|00:58:05|970Excuse me. 664|00:58:10|390|00:58:11|270So, 665|00:58:12|630|00:58:13|670Christian nations… 666|00:58:15|450|00:58:16|330involved 667|00:58:17|470|00:58:19|630in the Great War from 1914 668|00:58:20|550|00:58:22|470to 1945. 669|00:58:23|490|00:58:25|110This being written in the '30s, 670|00:58:26|630|00:58:28|050Christian nations like 671|00:58:28|770|00:58:30|810Germany, France, England, 672|00:58:31|890|00:58:34|530swept by hate, ruled by fear 673|00:58:35|610|00:58:38|270and at the same time by idealism, 1|00:00:02|480|00:00:10|320governed by a fanatical adherence to their 675|00:58:41|550|00:58:44|990national destiny as they interpret it 676|00:58:44|990|00:58:49|070which is really lower egoism on a national scale, isn't it? 677|00:58:50|050|00:58:51|010and “out for blood” 678|00:58:51|910|00:58:54|270as the piling up of armaments 679|00:58:54|950|00:58:56|030discloses. So, 680|00:58:57|230|00:58:59|710not seeing the value of the other 681|00:58:59|710|00:59:02|990nation's orientation, but 682|00:59:03|830|00:59:04|670determined in the way that they are 683|00:59:04|690|00:59:05|490in a Martian manner 684|00:59:05|490|00:59:07|110to conquer, 685|00:59:07|110|00:59:09|190blinded by the narrowness 686|00:59:09|190|00:59:13|890of the sixth ray. And this is playing out on the world stage even today 687|00:59:14|730|00:59:15|490between 688|00:59:16|910|00:59:20|850what have been called clashing civilizations 689|00:59:21|650|00:59:24|690and the various nations which come under 690|00:59:25|590|00:59:26|850those categories. 691|00:59:27|790|00:59:32|170This involves, as well, religion and nationalism today 692|00:59:33|090|00:59:35|210and has to be 693|00:59:35|210|00:59:37|190solved at last 694|00:59:38|130|00:59:40|870during the next hundred years, and hopefully much sooner. 695|00:59:42|130|00:59:45|250The sixth ray will be fading out, we are told, altogether 696|00:59:47|410|00:59:48|050by 697|00:59:49|170|00:59:50|350the early… 698|00:59:53|210|00:59:54|530Well, let's see: 699|00:59:55|590|00:59:57|93022nd century, I suppose… 21-something: 700|00:59:57|930|01:00:00|6302125, 2130. 701|01:00:00|630|01:00:04|450And the Pisces energy will have completely 702|01:00:04|450|01:00:06|870lifted and faded 703|01:00:07|370|01:00:09|350at the end of this, our present century. 704|01:00:10|430|01:00:12|610So this attitude, 705|01:00:13|570|01:00:16|510which is so dangerous in a nuclear age, 706|01:00:16|510|01:00:19|050this kind of intersection of 707|01:00:19|370|01:00:21|810sixth ray Piscean fanaticism 708|01:00:22|630|01:00:26|010with the early development of atomic energy 709|01:00:26|710|01:00:28|090under Aquarius, 710|01:00:28|710|01:00:30|390presents 711|01:00:30|630|01:00:32|790some very dire possibilities 712|01:00:33|650|01:00:35|010to humanity. 713|01:00:36|250|01:00:38|790And we have to hope that somehow 714|01:00:39|710|01:00:42|670our better angels, as it were, can see us through this 715|01:00:42|670|01:00:45|070with the help of the Hierarchy. 716|01:00:45|550|01:00:47|670We cannot have 717|01:00:47|670|01:00:50|030the Martian religious war 718|01:00:51|270|01:00:53|570about which D.K. warned, 719|01:00:54|710|01:00:58|170not specifying who the combatants would be. But now 720|01:00:58|170|01:01:00|950it is pretty clear who the combatants 721|01:01:02|070|01:01:03|950would be, and this 722|01:01:03|950|01:01:05|950some 60 years 723|01:01:06|790|01:01:08|350after he 724|01:01:08|350|01:01:11|390wrote about these dire possibilities. 725|01:01:14|050|01:01:14|890So, 726|01:01:16|090|01:01:19|550blood… Mars… the spilling of blood, 727|01:01:20|670|01:01:23|270the attitude of conquest 728|01:01:23|270|01:01:27|410dictated by a narrow idealism 729|01:01:28|170|01:01:33|150which does not honor or see value in the other person or nation's point of view: 730|01:01:34|290|01:01:37|050these are six-ray characteristics. 731|01:01:37|050|01:01:40|470Well, this is the 732|01:01:41|250|01:01:41|910end. 733|01:01:43|100|01:01:43|510Yes. 734|01:01:45|080|01:01:48|330This is the end of the first part of 78. 735|01:01:51|870|01:01:54|250So this is EAA 78, 736|01:01:54|250|01:01:55|01078, 737|01:01:57|070|01:01:59|670and it's the A part of it, 738|01:01:59|670|01:02:01|350and it's page something… 739|01:02:02|130|01:02:03|210Let's see: 740|01:02:10|310|01:02:11|470page 215, 741|01:02:13|170|01:02:14|250I suppose. 742|01:02:18|550|01:02:22|670I'm dividing it this way as it probably makes it a little easier to put it on YouTube. 743|01:02:24|250|01:02:26|210But let us continue 744|01:02:26|210|01:02:28|810into part B. 745|01:02:34|070|01:02:35|330Part B. 746|01:02:36|590|01:02:40|710Just continuing where we left off. 747|01:02:43|170|01:02:45|330The nations out for blood, 748|01:02:45|330|01:02:47|250just the way competitive 749|01:02:47|970|01:02:50|490human beings seeking to dominate each other 750|01:02:50|490|01:02:51|810are out for blood. 751|01:02:51|810|01:02:54|430It may be done in the economic sphere, in the political sphere, 752|01:02:54|430|01:02:56|830in the religious sphere. It doesn't make any difference. 753|01:02:57|570|01:02:59|690We seek to kill the enemy 754|01:03:00|690|01:03:02|190rather than absorb 755|01:03:02|890|01:03:05|250the value of the enemy and 756|01:03:05|890|01:03:10|230have those other values influence our values for the good. 757|01:03:10|890|01:03:12|670Alexander the Great, for all of his 758|01:03:14|870|01:03:19|630tendency towards conquest, was strongly motivated by the fourth ray, I believe, and 759|01:03:19|630|01:03:23|550seemed to absorb the best values 760|01:03:23|550|01:03:29|230of the civilizations and groups that he conquered, 761|01:03:29|230|01:03:31|100especially Persia in this case. 762|01:03:31|990|01:03:34|210But that's not the sixth ray attitude. 763|01:03:34|210|01:03:36|710The sixth ray attitude is to completely annihilate 764|01:03:38|270|01:03:40|130the conquered group 765|01:03:41|150|01:03:43|310or to enslave them. 766|01:03:44|810|01:03:48|290And it's amazing the calls for slavery 767|01:03:48|290|01:03:52|390that are still emerging in our modern era, 768|01:03:53|990|01:03:56|650even sex slavery. 769|01:03:57|370|01:04:02|210This coming in under Mars, which we have just been seeing, 770|01:04:02|210|01:04:04|190rules sex. 771|01:04:05|350|01:04:08|730So there's a strong Scorpionic tendency here. 772|01:04:09|370|01:04:11|670Scorpio in the lower aspect to reawaken 773|01:04:12|370|01:04:13|370the hydra 774|01:04:14|210|01:04:16|590and allow the hydra to dominate. 775|01:04:16|590|01:04:21|100But all of this will be swept aside in the general cleansing 776|01:04:21|790|01:04:24|020that Aquarius will bring 777|01:04:24|830|01:04:29|910with the two rivers, the Alpheus and Peneus, 778|01:04:30|670|01:04:34|010sweeping through the stables 779|01:04:34|640|01:04:37|650of King Augeas. 780|01:04:39|850|01:04:42|920Cleansing all the three levels. 781|01:04:43|860|01:04:46|680This is inevitable, but 782|01:04:46|680|01:04:50|220many who call for the reawakening of 783|01:04:51|000|01:04:54|040very ancient attitudes don't see forward. 784|01:04:54|040|01:04:56|180They see only backward. This is a great danger, 785|01:04:56|740|01:04:58|840and the sixth ray has a sentimental, 786|01:05:00|320|01:05:02|380reactionary side to it which 787|01:05:03|000|01:05:07|500seeks to seek former glory. 788|01:05:07|500|01:05:10|960Whenever former glory is sought, 789|01:05:11|780|01:05:13|480we are in a position 790|01:05:15|780|01:05:19|060which will lead to destruction and despair. 791|01:05:22|580|01:05:25|380The Italians in World War II 792|01:05:25|920|01:05:27|680sought the former glory of Rome. 793|01:05:27|680|01:05:32|400The Germans sought the former glory of the magnificent 794|01:05:34|180|01:05:36|900Teuton who had been somehow corrupted. 795|01:05:40|040|01:05:41|520The Jews— 796|01:05:41|520|01:05:47|720the Jewish group seeks to reestablish the ancient land of Israel. 797|01:05:48|980|01:05:50|500The Islamic group— 798|01:05:51|660|01:05:57|860some of them seek to reestablish the conquered caliphate. 799|01:05:58|980|01:06:03|840Former glory is always a dangerous pursuit 800|01:06:03|840|01:06:10|220and is no true vision of the descending plan 801|01:06:10|730|01:06:12|380which the intuition reveals. 802|01:06:14|100|01:06:17|280So all of these negative characteristics, says D.K., 803|01:06:17|280|01:06:19|560 All these are sixth ray characteristics, 804|01:06:20|740|01:06:24|140emphasised by Scorpio and conditioned by Mars 805|01:06:24|140|01:06:28|600Scorpio is the greater entity here, the lord of the constellation Scorpio, 806|01:06:28|600|01:06:31|480and the lesser lord of the planet Mars, 807|01:06:31|480|01:06:33|900which is kind of a student, you might say, 808|01:06:34|560|01:06:37|000of the lord of the constellation Scorpio. 809|01:06:38|600|01:06:44|960So all these are six-ray characteristics emphasized by Scorpio, 810|01:06:45|560|01:06:50|800the application conditioned by the militancy, 811|01:06:51|280|01:06:53|060the war-like nature of Mars, 812|01:06:54|420|01:06:57|360which ever rules the path of the individual disciple, 813|01:06:58|820|01:06:59|460Interesting. 814|01:07:02|020|01:07:05|900Mars ruling the path of the individual disciple. 815|01:07:05|900|01:07:09|840It seems discipleship is necessarily, as we understand it, 816|01:07:09|840|01:07:12|620at least on Earth, filled with conflict. 817|01:07:12|620|01:07:14|460We do live on a conflicted planet. 818|01:07:16|250|01:07:22|540And we are graduates of a school of purifying pain and releasing sorrow. 819|01:07:23|330|01:07:25|380We live on a planet of painful endeavor, 820|01:07:26|160|01:07:28|660and so much of the pain is caused by 821|01:07:30|560|01:07:32|680the clash of battle, 822|01:07:33|820|01:07:39|020the conflict brought on by Mars, 823|01:07:39|020|01:07:46|120a major contributing planet to the psychic and energic condition 824|01:07:46|420|01:07:49|800of the Earth at this time and of humanity at this time. 825|01:07:51|080|01:07:53|660So it seems that one cannot really be a disciple 826|01:07:53|660|01:07:56|180unless one is ready to battle 827|01:07:57|480|01:08:00|820on behalf of the higher aspect of oneself 828|01:08:00|820|01:08:07|020with the reassertion, strenuous reassertion, of the lower aspect of oneself. 829|01:08:07|020|01:08:15|600and today the world disciple, humanity as a whole, stands at the very portal of the Path. 830|01:08:15|600|01:08:16|760and is engaged— 831|01:08:16|760|01:08:19|820well, this was written in the interim between 832|01:08:21|320|01:08:26|940two great wars which D.K. sees as one great war, 833|01:08:28|120|01:08:33|2601914 to 1945. So even though this was written in the early '30s, 834|01:08:34|680|01:08:39|260I suppose the masters knew in a way that they were involved in a larger 835|01:08:40|120|01:08:41|820war, a larger process, 836|01:08:42|500|01:08:46|900and could see ahead to the possibility, although they strove 837|01:08:49|440|01:08:53|060strenuously through goodwill initiatives to avoid 838|01:08:53|740|01:08:56|900the second phase of the precipitation of the war. 839|01:08:59|300|01:09:03|320So even then, humanity was the world disciple today, 840|01:09:03|320|01:09:07|740involved in all manner of conflicts and the attempt to reconcile conflicts 841|01:09:07|740|01:09:14|300under the United Nations. Humanity still stands at the very portal of the path 842|01:09:14|300|01:09:17|540with the Aquarian energy getting stronger and stronger all the time 843|01:09:18|320|01:09:22|440and bringing the universal love of the Christ closer. 844|01:09:23|040|01:09:28|020But as that love descends, of course, it evokes its opposite. 845|01:09:29|860|01:09:32|400The entire west is at this time 846|01:09:34|480|01:09:35|160under 847|01:09:38|800|01:09:40|160Martian influence 848|01:09:40|160|01:09:44|040but this will end during the next five years. 849|01:09:45|780|01:09:52|340Well, okay, it's difficult to know exactly when sections of this book were written, 850|01:09:52|340|01:09:55|940but we do seem to be relatively in an early part of the book 851|01:09:55|940|01:10:03|260which seems to have been written relatively in the mid-30s. 852|01:10:04|600|01:10:10|540And so this influence apparently did not really end, 853|01:10:10|540|01:10:13|600unless he's speaking of the influence as it manifests 854|01:10:14|800|01:10:19|720on the inner planes and then gradually has to work out and through 855|01:10:21|200|01:10:22|600the outer planes. 856|01:10:25|300|01:10:27|480Let's see what further may be said here, 857|01:10:27|480|01:10:32|000because certainly, you know, great aspects of the war were under— 858|01:10:33|800|01:10:35|820were in expression 859|01:10:35|820|01:10:41|380during the early 40s. And even up to the winter of 1942 in the north, 860|01:10:41|380|01:10:46|980it was not known which way humanity would go, or whether humanity would go down to defeat. 861|01:10:46|980|01:10:49|960So certainly the Martian influence was very, very strong. 862|01:10:49|960|01:10:54|740Later I think he talks about the power of Mars waning, 863|01:10:54|740|01:10:59|980but that is towards the end of the war. So one wonders whether it was artificially somehow 864|01:11:01|720|01:11:02|240prolonged. 865|01:11:03|300|01:11:05|000Maybe D.K. was really hoping— 866|01:11:06|520|01:11:08|900let's say this was written in the middle 30s— 867|01:11:12|100|01:11:15|28019… well, 34, 35, 36, 868|01:11:16|860|01:11:22|020going forward by a few years could have taken us to the end of the 30s, beginning of the 40s. 869|01:11:22|020|01:11:26|640Maybe he was hoping that the next phase of the war would not precipitate. 870|01:11:26|640|01:11:27|960It certainly was a possibility 871|01:11:28|560|01:11:30|620that it need not have precipitated. 872|01:11:30|620|01:11:33|480But enough men and women of good will, 873|01:11:33|480|01:11:39|520we are told, could not be found to stem the tide of the war-like forces. 874|01:11:40|560|01:11:42|800So we've had 875|01:11:44|700|01:11:49|440Mars governing the physical body and personality. 876|01:11:49|440|01:11:57|800We've had Mars governing sex and the blood. 877|01:12:02|360|01:12:04|160Let's see here. 878|01:12:09|860|01:12:12|400Yes, sex and the blood. 879|01:12:12|400|01:12:18|280And now he comes to the third factor 880|01:12:18|280|01:12:19|700which Mars governs. 881|01:12:20|680|01:12:25|860Thirdly, Mars governs the senses which are five in number 882|01:12:25|860|01:12:30|060He seems in a way to be moving up through the planes. 883|01:12:32|700|01:12:38|320There will be some connection of Mars with the lower concrete mind, 884|01:12:38|320|01:12:40|220whose number is five as well. 885|01:12:41|420|01:12:48|420So Mars is actually the acuity of the way we interact with our environment. 886|01:12:48|760|01:12:50|400The senses, five in number— 887|01:12:50|400|01:12:56|720number five, I think, does relate to a higher aspect of Mars. 888|01:12:56|720|01:13:01|620I've suspected that one of the monadic rays of Mars is the fifth. 889|01:13:02|380|01:13:09|760This would correlate pretty well with Saul—Paul—as under the Martian influence, 890|01:13:09|760|01:13:12|580because if he had a sixth ray soul 891|01:13:13|720|01:13:17|500for a while, at least, giving way to the second ray, 892|01:13:17|500|01:13:23|540his particular influence at the moment is very much under the fifth ray, 893|01:13:24|460|01:13:26|780being the fifth ray Chohan. 894|01:13:26|780|01:13:30|540Mars is interestingly a rather orange planet, 895|01:13:31|400|01:13:33|700not just a red planet, but red-orange, 896|01:13:34|500|01:13:35|860correlating with the fifth ray, 897|01:13:35|860|01:13:37|320orange being the color of the fifth ray. 898|01:13:37|320|01:13:41|600Interestingly enough, some of the color presented by Venus 899|01:13:42|280|01:13:44|180seems to be orange as well, 900|01:13:44|180|01:13:45|580indicating exteriorly, 901|01:13:45|580|01:13:50|920perhaps, the fifth ray nature of that planet. 902|01:13:52|800|01:13:55|500So Mars is involved with the concrete mind. 903|01:13:55|500|01:13:58|300These senses are the basis of all human knowledge 904|01:13:58|300|01:14:01|600presumably the knowledge of the concrete mind, 905|01:14:02|960|01:14:07|900where that which is tangible and objective is concerned or inferred. 906|01:14:07|900|01:14:10|660So Mars is not a subtle planet. 907|01:14:11|620|01:14:14|560It deals with objectivity and tangibility 908|01:14:14|560|01:14:19|880and is very much involved in promoting the materialistic perspective. 909|01:14:20|580|01:14:23|280But of course, Martian science must give way 910|01:14:24|400|01:14:27|140to a more subtle science. 911|01:14:27|140|01:14:32|680ruled perhaps by, let us call it, the occult mind of Uranus, 912|01:14:34|020|01:14:43|300and the higher aspects of Mercury and Neptune's sensitivity, and so forth. 913|01:14:44|260|01:14:47|040So the five senses… and it's kind of interesting: 914|01:14:47|040|01:14:50|140people with a strong Mars 915|01:14:51|460|01:14:54|560sometimes have a quite prominent lower brow 916|01:14:55|340|01:14:57|440from the physiognomic perspective, 917|01:14:58|380|01:15:01|380and that may indicate their engagement 918|01:15:02|800|01:15:05|180with that which the senses reveal— 919|01:15:05|180|01:15:07|520their engagement with objectivity. 920|01:15:08|940|01:15:12|200It's not so much the higher forehead which is involved; 921|01:15:12|200|01:15:14|160that's more under the realm of Jupiter. 922|01:15:16|020|01:15:20|440The study of physiognomy in relation to the planets I think is very important, 923|01:15:21|080|01:15:23|200and in relation to the zodiacal signs. 924|01:15:23|200|01:15:27|300It's complex; there's much fusing and blending going on, 925|01:15:27|300|01:15:32|700but perhaps the eye can become discerning enough 926|01:15:33|340|01:15:36|560to detect these planetary and zodiacal influences 927|01:15:37|260|01:15:40|400on that form which is the body, and especially the face, 928|01:15:40|400|01:15:46|740as the more acute revealer of identity. 929|01:15:48|760|01:15:51|620Mars, therefore, rules science 930|01:15:52|480|01:15:58|040And I do believe in the Gauquelin research 931|01:15:58|040|01:16:04|540that it was not only Saturn that was found prominent in the charts of scientists, 932|01:16:04|540|01:16:07|080but Mars as well. 933|01:16:08|860|01:16:14|220Mars is this power to engage with the environment, 934|01:16:14|220|01:16:16|120to investigate, to learn about it. 935|01:16:16|120|01:16:24|160Of course, Pluto helps this tendency to engage and discover, 936|01:16:24|940|01:16:26|240to go even deeper. 937|01:16:26|240|01:16:29|760So Mars and Pluto are probing. 938|01:16:30|920|01:16:35|960I think they make very good planets of surgery when together. 939|01:16:37|360|01:16:39|460So Mars rules science. 940|01:16:41|180|01:16:43|900Very interesting, because you might not think this to be the case. 941|01:16:43|900|01:16:46|760You think, “Okay, here's Venus, the planet of the fifth ray. 942|01:16:46|760|01:16:48|100Why doesn't Venus rule science?” 943|01:16:48|340|01:16:54|160But from a practical perspective, when we look at how people actually behave 944|01:16:55|100|01:16:56|580under the influence of these planets, 945|01:16:56|580|01:17:02|960we see that Venus is much more involved with the arts 946|01:17:04|080|01:17:05|900than with science per se. 947|01:17:07|080|01:17:09|000The statistical work has to be done. 948|01:17:09|000|01:17:12|080I think it is being done by some. 949|01:17:13|820|01:17:16|380Gauquelin started his work, 950|01:17:17|820|01:17:20|640but there's much, much more that can be done. 951|01:17:21|360|01:17:27|120Then astrology will prove itself statistically, mathematically, 952|01:17:28|120|01:17:30|280and the skepticism surrounding it 953|01:17:30|280|01:17:35|280and the imputation of mindless mysticism surrounding it 954|01:17:35|280|01:17:40|640will be lifted, dissipated. 955|01:17:41|300|01:17:45|340So Mars therefore rules science, and hence the reason in this present era 956|01:17:46|100|01:17:47|420(however long that is) 957|01:17:48|100|01:17:53|360for the fundamental but not permanent materiality of science— 958|01:17:53|360|01:17:57|740So, you know, science has been quite material for hundreds of years. 959|01:17:58|700|01:18:01|760Alchemy was given up; astrology was given up, 960|01:18:01|760|01:18:06|980no longer considered worthy of the universities. 961|01:18:07|920|01:18:14|840And for all through the 1600s, 17[00s], 18[00s], 1900s, 962|01:18:15|580|01:18:19|800scientific pursuits have been largely of a material nature, 963|01:18:19|800|01:18:21|560and necessarily so, I suppose, 964|01:18:21|560|01:18:24|280to give us a foundational understanding 965|01:18:25|340|01:18:27|680of the densest physical levels. 966|01:18:30|220|01:18:31|100Interesting: 967|01:18:31|760|01:18:34|100Mars and the materiality of science— 968|01:18:34|840|01:18:36|840a materiality which is rapidly lessening 1|00:00:02|480|00:00:10|320as Mars nears the end of its present cycle of influence. 970|01:18:45|140|01:18:49|340Okay, just have to find where that went. 971|01:18:49|340|01:18:52|640The end of its present cycle of influence. 972|01:18:52|640|01:18:54|620Later there's some discussion 973|01:18:54|620|01:18:58|700about the waning of its power, at least on the astral plane. 974|01:19:01|020|01:19:04|080Today I won't say that scientists are equally divided 975|01:19:04|740|01:19:07|400between material and subtle approaches, 976|01:19:07|400|01:19:10|240but if we think of the last hundred years, 977|01:19:10|960|01:19:13|440science has been taken into a realm, 978|01:19:14|300|01:19:16|620both in medicine and in physics, 979|01:19:16|620|01:19:19|200which is decidedly non-material. 980|01:19:19|860|01:19:22|300It is material in a more fundamental sense: 981|01:19:22|300|01:19:26|060the very constituents of matter are being understood, 982|01:19:26|060|01:19:30|540but these constituents are seen to be energy constituents 983|01:19:30|800|01:19:35|460and not illusorily solid, as it were. 984|01:19:36|140|01:19:39|920Matter has become appreciated as energy. 985|01:19:40|880|01:19:43|120So this is a tremendous revelation, 986|01:19:44|140|01:19:48|300proven in a way through the atomic bomb. 987|01:19:48|300|01:19:54|620but certainly presented to us 988|01:19:54|620|01:19:59|700in the speculation of Einstein and later the quantum physicists. 989|01:20:02|060|01:20:06|000So a new approach to science is on its way, 990|01:20:06|740|01:20:09|720and I would say in a way it's very Uranian. 991|01:20:10|840|01:20:15|720Although at one point D.K. also associates Uranus with more orthodox science, 992|01:20:15|720|01:20:17|920but certainly the higher potentials of Uranus 993|01:20:17|920|01:20:21|660to investigate the subtle, the waves, the invisible 994|01:20:21|660|01:20:24|660as real, is prominent. 995|01:20:26|060|01:20:33|000So material science is giving way to the study of the etheric vehicle. 996|01:20:33|570|01:20:36|970Mars doesn't have much to do with the etheric vehicle at all. 997|01:20:37|320|01:20:43|440Other planets, Mercury, Uranus, ruling Aquarius and Gemini, 998|01:20:43|440|01:20:47|930are far more etheric in their associations. 999|01:20:49|250|01:20:53|410Already, the trend of modern science and it's written in the 30s, 1000|01:20:53|410|01:20:56|230is shifting into the realm of the intangible 1001|01:20:56|890|01:20:59|290and into the world of the non-material. 1002|01:20:59|290|01:21:04|410At least you can no longer perceive the objects of study 1003|01:21:05|330|01:21:08|210of the science of that period and of the present period 1004|01:21:08|930|01:21:10|370with the ordinary senses. 1005|01:21:10|370|01:21:12|770The senses have to be greatly extended. 1006|01:21:12|770|01:21:18|030One thinks about now, 80 years later, 1007|01:21:18|850|01:21:22|150for the search for the God particle. 1008|01:21:23|410|01:21:29|290Particle physics certainly has taken us into the realm of the intangible 1009|01:21:29|850|01:21:32|630and into the world of the non-material, 1010|01:21:32|630|01:21:36|190where matter and energy are understood as equivalent. 1011|01:21:36|850|01:21:41|330This is a tremendous releasing formula: 1012|01:21:41|330|01:21:43|330that matter is energy, energy is matter. 1013|01:21:43|330|01:21:46|550It opens the door to magic and the possibility of 1014|01:21:47|710|01:21:50|070precipitation from subtler realms into dense 1015|01:21:50|070|01:21:53|930and dematerialization from dense realms into subtle. 1016|01:21:56|470|01:22:02|030So we see that D.K.'s indications are correct, 1017|01:22:03|390|01:22:07|350even though let us say from 1950 to the year 2000 1018|01:22:07|350|01:22:10|390the emphasis upon the 5th ray ashram 1019|01:22:12|310|01:22:13|910was lessened 1020|01:22:13|910|01:22:18|430for the sake of humanity lest its knowledge of these things 1021|01:22:18|430|01:22:23|590run too far ahead of its social and moral development. 1022|01:22:24|570|01:22:29|630Hence also the fact that the opposition to occultism is waning 1023|01:22:30|410|01:22:32|890I guess Mars and the Martian religions 1024|01:22:32|890|01:22:36|570put up a very great opposition to occultism 1025|01:22:36|990|01:22:39|770because it challenges the familiar world. 1026|01:22:39|770|01:22:45|030We see many vestigial 6th ray types 1027|01:22:45|030|01:22:50|010living in a type of consciousness which can only be described as material, 1028|01:22:50|010|01:22:53|850and even when it's spiritual, it's materially spiritual. 1029|01:22:56|010|01:22:57|030Spiritual materialism. 1030|01:22:58|670|01:23:02|590So the heaven as conceived, the other world as conceived, 1031|01:23:02|590|01:23:04|070is still very material. 1032|01:23:04|850|01:23:08|110But anyway, that is not the occult perspective, 1033|01:23:09|310|01:23:11|830nor is it the mystical perspective. 1034|01:23:11|830|01:23:15|490And the opposition to occultism is waning. 1035|01:23:15|490|01:23:16|970It's a Martian opposition, 1036|01:23:16|970|01:23:20|590and its day of power approaching. 1037|01:23:21|410|01:23:28|490Did H.P.B. tell us by the end of the 21st century – 1038|01:23:28|490|01:23:32|530she put it in terms which are more difficult to understand, 1039|01:23:32|530|01:23:37|770but I believe that what we call occultism must win the day 1040|01:23:37|770|01:23:39|290by the end of the 21st century. 1041|01:23:39|290|01:23:42|790That gives us another 90 years of work, 1042|01:23:42|790|01:23:45|590and the speed with which things are occurring – 1043|01:23:46|690|01:23:47|890revelations are occurring – 1044|01:23:47|890|01:23:50|910it doesn't seem impossible at all. 1045|01:23:52|650|01:23:56|670These subtler senses will supersede the physical senses 1046|01:23:56|670|01:24:02|170over which Mars has so long had a successful control, 1047|01:24:02|650|01:24:04|230How very interesting, 1048|01:24:04|630|01:24:07|250its association with the lower 5th ray. 1049|01:24:08|430|01:24:13|230Just the way in a sense we can say that Venus is associated 1050|01:24:13|850|01:24:16|050with the higher 5th ray, 1051|01:24:16|050|01:24:18|510and also Uranus is there as well and Mercury as well. 1052|01:24:18|510|01:24:20|910They all have I think 5th ray components. 1053|01:24:22|090|01:24:27|410So these subtler senses will supersede the physical senses. 1054|01:24:27|410|01:24:29|690Already with Kirlian photography we see this, 1055|01:24:29|690|01:24:33|190and with the study of auras we see this. 1056|01:24:34|210|01:24:36|870In the field of medicine that's another frontier 1057|01:24:36|870|01:24:42|070where subtle energy is emerging as a reality. 1058|01:24:42|070|01:24:45|950Medicine and physics seem to be the two areas 1059|01:24:46|970|01:24:50|290where pioneering research is occurring. 1060|01:24:50|290|01:24:52|150although it's much more accepted generally 1061|01:24:52|550|01:24:54|050in the area of nuclear physics. 1062|01:24:54|870|01:24:57|690But increasingly, enlightened physicians 1063|01:24:57|690|01:25:00|450are understanding the energy treatment. 1064|01:25:00|450|01:25:04|010These subtler senses will supersede the physical senses 1065|01:25:04|010|01:25:06|850over which Mars has so long had a successful control. 1066|01:25:08|090|01:25:11|190It's something like the transition from 1067|01:25:12|810|01:25:15|610Newtonian physics to Einsteinian physics. 1068|01:25:17|370|01:25:20|830It's as if the type of physics which 1069|01:25:20|830|01:25:26|650Newton brought to such a pinnacle of understanding 1070|01:25:26|650|01:25:29|070is more Martian in nature. 1071|01:25:30|290|01:25:33|950But the physics of the late 19th, early 20th, 1072|01:25:33|950|01:25:35|470and now 21st century 1073|01:25:36|190|01:25:38|790sees the waning of the Martian influence, 1074|01:25:39|550|01:25:42|350and hence again the growth in the world today 1075|01:25:42|350|01:25:43|830of the psychic senses 1076|01:25:44|730|01:25:46|910This is under Neptune, isn't it? 1077|01:25:47|490|01:25:49|530and the appearance on every hand of the subtler 1078|01:25:50|260|01:25:53|470and more esoteric powers of clair-voyance 1079|01:25:55|330|01:25:56|570and clair-audience. 1080|01:25:57|340|01:25:59|310So here and there they have been— 1081|01:25:59|310|01:26:02|970here and there, accurate psychics. 1082|01:26:04|130|01:26:07|210I guess Jeffrey Hudson is a good example 1083|01:26:08|050|01:26:11|890of a level-headed, intelligent, respectable psychic, 1084|01:26:11|890|01:26:14|530and I'm sure there are many more 1085|01:26:14|850|01:26:19|030working in psychic research under the fifth and seventh rays. 1086|01:26:20|150|01:26:24|390But I think, using the general sensitivity of Neptune 1087|01:26:24|390|01:26:29|310and in a way, Mars can be considered 1088|01:26:29|310|01:26:30|870a kind of polar opposite of Neptune— 1089|01:26:30|870|01:26:32|830Neptune, the planet of subtlety, 1090|01:26:32|970|01:26:34|250the planet of water, of life, 1091|01:26:35|710|01:26:38|210and Mars, the planet of objectivity, 1092|01:26:40|530|01:26:47|790of blood and of matter and lower energy. 1093|01:26:59|070|01:27:02|830So I would not at all be surprised to see 1094|01:27:02|970|01:27:05|570scientists involved in psychic research 1095|01:27:05|570|01:27:09|350having a strong Neptune in their chart. 1096|01:27:10|010|01:27:13|250And of course, if they wish to correlate what is found 1097|01:27:13|250|01:27:16|550with the conventional revelation of the senses, 1098|01:27:16|550|01:27:18|190perhaps Mars is strong as well, 1099|01:27:18|190|01:27:20|310and Saturn is very important. 1100|01:27:22|170|01:27:25|290The blend of subtlety, Neptune, and 1101|01:27:25|790|01:27:27|610the concrete nature, Saturn, Mars, 1102|01:27:27|610|01:27:30|150is important for the corroboration 1103|01:27:30|150|01:27:35|610of that which the subtle senses reveal. 1104|01:27:36|470|01:27:39|610So This development is inevitable 1105|01:27:40|370|01:27:45|010as the influence of Scorpio and of Mars 1106|01:27:46|150|01:27:48|230begins to lessen, 1107|01:27:50|770|01:27:52|830as is the case today. 1108|01:27:52|830|01:27:56|190Now here is a statement which makes me think that 1109|01:27:56|190|01:27:58|730some of what was written here 1110|01:27:58|730|01:28:01|090has been interpolated from later writings. 1111|01:28:02|750|01:28:06|990It doesn't say the year 1945 will see this influence 1112|01:28:06|990|01:28:08|430almost completely vanish, 1113|01:28:09|830|01:28:10|550but 1114|01:28:14|790|01:28:16|970it seems to suggest 1115|01:28:18|690|01:28:22|570that the writing has occurred after 1945. 1116|01:28:23|670|01:28:26|530So I'm not sure how this was all put together, 1117|01:28:26|530|01:28:29|830but the year 1945 saw this— 1118|01:28:30|610|01:28:33|030I suppose cruder Martian influence— 1119|01:28:33|030|01:28:34|770this influence almost completely vanished, 1120|01:28:35|610|01:28:36|830particularly from the astral plane. 1121|01:28:36|830|01:28:41|070I suppose people had no more desire to fight 1122|01:28:41|610|01:28:43|690after 1945, and an era 1123|01:28:44|650|01:28:47|470which was intended to see the building of the peace 1124|01:28:47|470|01:28:48|830through the United Nations 1125|01:28:49|550|01:28:50|610did supervene. 1126|01:28:52|910|01:28:55|190So sometimes when we're looking at these books, 1127|01:28:55|190|01:28:56|250even though we know 1128|01:28:57|110|01:28:59|250when certain parts of them were written, 1129|01:28:59|250|01:29:04|190other parts may have been interpolated from later periods. 1130|01:29:04|190|01:29:07|610The book came out in terms of lessons, 1131|01:29:07|610|01:29:11|910and maybe when these lessons were assembled 1132|01:29:11|910|01:29:14|430and later published as books, 1133|01:29:15|270|01:29:17|250a mixture was present. 1134|01:29:18|470|01:29:20|540I suspect that Esoteric Astrology 1135|01:29:20|910|01:29:24|730was not published as a book until the 1950s. 1136|01:29:26|350|01:29:26|990Anyway, 1137|01:29:32|010|01:29:34|490when D.K. then could be speaking 1138|01:29:34|490|01:29:38|210of the period 1950, 1139|01:29:38|210|01:29:40|950in which we would see the waning 1140|01:29:41|830|01:29:43|670of the Martian influence— 1141|01:29:43|670|01:29:48|070he said it would be within the next five years or so 1142|01:29:48|070|01:29:49|390it would wane. 1143|01:29:49|390|01:29:51|830and if he's writing around the year 1945, 1144|01:29:51|830|01:29:57|410then it's understandable that he's talking about a time ahead. 1145|01:29:59|250|01:30:04|630So a materiality lessening as Mars nears the end of its present 1146|01:30:04|630|01:30:06|910cycle of influence. 1147|01:30:16|910|01:30:21|510So The year 1945 saw this influence almost completely vanish, 1148|01:30:21|830|01:30:23|710 particularly from the astral plane. 1149|01:30:23|710|01:30:26|330There's still many, many wars going on, 1150|01:30:26|330|01:30:27|990and sometimes astonishing to realize 1151|01:30:28|770|01:30:32|770how many smaller wars have occurred during the 20th century. 1152|01:30:34|730|01:30:37|110Indeed, a warring century. 1153|01:30:38|150|01:30:41|290We sometimes think only in terms of the major wars, 1154|01:30:43|170|01:30:46|470but many lesser wars have been occurring. 1155|01:30:50|310|01:30:55|730So anyway, the ruling of the astral plane by Mars 1156|01:30:55|730|01:30:59|050is very important because where there is the desire for fighting, 1157|01:31:00|010|01:31:01|810it's far more serious 1158|01:31:03|230|01:31:06|930than the working out upon the physical plane 1159|01:31:07|690|01:31:09|950of occasional skirmishes. 1160|01:31:10|930|01:31:12|790When the desire wanes 1161|01:31:12|790|01:31:16|450and the force fighting upon the physical plane will also wane. 1162|01:31:16|450|01:31:20|030But again, we almost see strangely, 1163|01:31:21|790|01:31:25|370as Mars approached its closest position to the earth 1164|01:31:25|370|01:31:26|810in many years— 1165|01:31:26|810|01:31:31|050the closest in 70,000 years just recently, 1166|01:31:32|570|01:31:35|310a couple three years ago, was it— 1167|01:31:36|150|01:31:41|330there's again been the rising of the desire to fight, 1168|01:31:41|330|01:31:44|590the kind of Armageddon consciousness 1169|01:31:45|410|01:31:47|850and the desires associated with that. 1170|01:31:48|410|01:31:51|110Some sixth-ray types seeking to bring this on 1171|01:31:51|110|01:31:55|070because it promises the end of a limited world 1172|01:31:55|070|01:31:59|830and the onset of a paradisiacal world, 1173|01:32:00|410|01:32:01|690a heavenly world. 1174|01:32:02|450|01:32:04|590And others because it promises 1175|01:32:05|410|01:32:08|630the domination of their ideology over other ideologies. 1176|01:32:08|630|01:32:14|430So again, the desire to fight has been rising. 1177|01:32:15|270|01:32:19|090This is some 60 years later. 1178|01:32:19|710|01:32:23|870So let us see when the Tibetan again writes 1179|01:32:23|870|01:32:25|970how he describes this particular period 1180|01:32:26|530|01:32:29|150in relation to the planet Mars. 1181|01:32:30|590|01:32:33|410Astrologers would do well to remember that the influence 1182|01:32:33|410|01:32:36|690of the constellations, signs and planets, 1183|01:32:36|690|01:32:39|710work out upon three levels of awareness— 1184|01:32:39|710|01:32:44|170This is one of those important, important hints: 1185|01:32:45|570|01:32:47|670three descending levels— 1186|01:32:47|670|01:32:53|690and are felt first of all upon the mental plane, 1187|01:32:54|770|01:32:58|130then upon the astral plane and finally upon the physical plane. 1188|01:33:00|470|01:33:03|490Well, I think there are certain descending influences 1189|01:33:03|490|01:33:07|550which will continue to work out on the physical plane 1190|01:33:07|550|01:33:11|310even though a keen desire for their working out 1191|01:33:11|310|01:33:13|170is no longer sustaining them. 1192|01:33:14|170|01:33:17|330But where the astral plane, at least in some 1193|01:33:17|330|01:33:20|110is becoming re-energized for a great battle, 1194|01:33:21|310|01:33:26|880then we can only hope that the fading out of the six-ray cycle 1195|01:33:28|610|01:33:33|410somehow neutralizes the possibility of this desire for battle 1196|01:33:34|710|01:33:36|850precipitating upon the physical plane. 1197|01:33:38|510|01:33:40|690There are so many intricate cycles. 1198|01:33:41|230|01:33:44|230D.K. speaks of cycles of which we can have no knowledge, 1199|01:33:44|750|01:33:48|450and he gives their starting points as years 1200|01:33:49|210|01:33:53|510which we might never think of as starting points. 1201|01:33:54|190|01:33:58|070So there are greater and lesser cycles, and about them we know very little. 1202|01:33:59|070|01:34:00|490But we must know more. 1203|01:34:02|890|01:34:07|190And when all knowledge is achieved on the third level of the atmic plane, 1204|01:34:07|190|01:34:09|050presumably by a master, 1205|01:34:10|830|01:34:13|870then this type of knowledge of cycles will be ours. 1206|01:34:13|870|01:34:18|610Right now we have to piece this knowledge together as best we can. 1207|01:34:19|870|01:34:21|970Some have done a good job with this, 1208|01:34:22|570|01:34:29|570taking the hints that are given and discerning some cyclic truth. 1209|01:34:30|490|01:34:33|530I think Stephen Pugh has done a good job with this, 1210|01:34:34|650|01:34:38|550piecing together the probable ray cycles, 1211|01:34:38|550|01:34:40|930but there's still much more, 1212|01:34:41|570|01:34:45|270with cycles and sub-cycles and sub-sub-cycles and so forth, 1213|01:34:45|270|01:34:46|990which are indeed relevant. 1214|01:34:49|510|01:34:53|390OK, But it is with this last plane namely the physical plane, 1215|01:34:53|390|01:34:55|930that astrologers are primarily concerned, 1216|01:34:55|930|01:34:58|990speaking of very exoteric astrologers, 1217|01:34:58|990|01:35:05|890because they're working very much in the realm of effects. 1218|01:35:09|110|01:35:13|150So they are emphasising happenings and events 1219|01:35:14|070|01:35:16|210and not their conditioning causes. 1220|01:35:16|210|01:35:21|170Well, that's one of the ways in which esoteric astrology 1221|01:35:21|170|01:35:26|230will decrease our ignorance in this area. 1222|01:35:26|230|01:35:31|670It will emphasize conditioning causes which inevitably work out, 1223|01:35:31|670|01:35:36|150and then attention will be placed upon dealing with the causes 1224|01:35:36|150|01:35:39|690and not simply with the effects. 1225|01:35:39|690|01:35:43|310And in that way, we shall become much more effective 1226|01:35:43|930|01:35:47|970in changing and transforming those conditions 1227|01:35:47|970|01:35:50|610which must be changed and transformed. 1228|01:35:50|930|01:35:54|110 DK says At present, astrology deals with effects 1229|01:35:54|110|01:35:57|350and not with that which is causing them. 1230|01:35:57|350|01:36:00|270But I think those of us who have studied esoteric astrology— 1231|01:36:00|950|01:36:07|870we do realize that we are shifting our understanding 1232|01:36:07|870|01:36:10|030into the world of causes. 1233|01:36:12|510|01:36:15|570There is much confusion over this matter 1234|01:36:15|570|01:36:20|250and the horoscopes of the three levels are often much distorted. 1235|01:36:22|070|01:36:26|750And this must have been very new information at the time it was given. 1236|01:36:28|050|01:36:32|310A horoscope which could be interpreted purely upon the mental plane 1237|01:36:32|310|01:36:35|590is given a physical interpretation, and thus happenings 1238|01:36:36|030|01:36:40|630which are entirely mental are portrayed as physical occurrences. 1239|01:36:40|890|01:36:44|090You kind of wonder how these horoscopes can be set up. 1240|01:36:44|090|01:36:47|430Do we leave the horoscope as it is? 1241|01:36:47|430|01:36:52|710Do we put a particular planet which rules a particular plane 1242|01:36:53|350|01:36:55|490on the ascendant of the horoscope 1243|01:36:56|090|01:37:00|510and thus create a house configuration 1244|01:37:00|510|01:37:07|050which more truly represents activity upon the particular plane 1245|01:37:07|050|01:37:09|670associated with that planet? 1246|01:37:09|670|01:37:12|030There is much experimentation which can be done, 1247|01:37:12|030|01:37:17|870but of course, the realm of imagination or fancy enters, 1248|01:37:17|870|01:37:21|370so we have to make sure that our multiple speculations 1249|01:37:21|630|01:37:24|230are actually correlated with facts 1250|01:37:24|930|01:37:29|130and not arbitrarily imposed upon facts, 1251|01:37:30|070|01:37:34|490skewing the interpretation—the correct interpretation of those facts. 1252|01:37:35|730|01:37:38|710So thus, happenings which are entirely mental 1253|01:37:38|710|01:37:40|410are portrayed as physical occurrences. 1254|01:37:40|410|01:37:42|750And when we're interpreting horoscopes, 1255|01:37:43|230|01:37:47|310we have to speak of changes in mind, changes in the emotional nature, 1256|01:37:47|310|01:37:51|710finally changes in the realm of physical plane effects. 1257|01:37:52|690|01:37:56|790A clue to this triple interpretation which astrology must eventually recognise 1258|01:37:58|090|01:38:04|730can be found in the relation of the orthodox, the esoteric and the hierarchical planets 1259|01:38:05|310|01:38:09|310and the rays of which they are the expression. 1260|01:38:09|310|01:38:14|490And I do know that some astrologers have taken this sentence 1261|01:38:15|890|01:38:23|670and have made a correlation of orthodox planets 1262|01:38:24|390|01:38:27|230with the realm of physical events, 1263|01:38:27|230|01:38:30|190of esoteric planets with emotional changes, 1264|01:38:30|190|01:38:37|090and of hierarchical planets and rulers 1265|01:38:37|090|01:38:39|690with changes upon the mental plane. 1266|01:38:41|510|01:38:44|930We can see the extent to which this actually does work out. 1267|01:38:44|930|01:38:48|970Of course, you know, in general, esoteric rulers 1268|01:38:50|830|01:38:54|470are employed when a degree of soul expression 1269|01:38:55|450|01:38:57|030is coming into the life, 1270|01:38:57|030|01:39:00|010and hierarchical rulers are employed when 1271|01:39:01|890|01:39:04|610the expression of the spirit, the monad, 1272|01:39:05|450|01:39:07|590is becoming somewhat real. 1273|01:39:07|590|01:39:10|630Of course, the monad reflects itself in the mind. 1274|01:39:11|570|01:39:13|870The monadic ray reflects itself in the mind. 1275|01:39:13|870|01:39:15|850The soul ray reflects itself in the astral body. 1276|01:39:15|850|01:39:20|790And the personality ray reflects itself in the physical body. 1277|01:39:20|790|01:39:26|710So you can see this lesser subset of mind, emotions, and body 1278|01:39:26|710|01:39:30|450as correlated with monad, soul, and personality. 1279|01:39:30|450|01:39:35|710So there's probably a theoretical justification 1280|01:39:36|530|01:39:41|350for doing as these often quite accomplished astrologers do. 1281|01:39:42|230|01:39:47|830The question is, how much of the content of mind, emotions, and body 1282|01:39:47|830|01:39:52|130are actually revealed by applying these three sets of rulerships 1283|01:39:52|130|01:39:53|470as presently applied? 1284|01:39:54|350|01:39:59|570This is something which has to be laboriously established 1285|01:40:00|450|01:40:05|490and has to remain a matter of theoretical interest. 1286|01:40:39|830|01:40:41|230Hmm. 1287|01:41:36|870|01:41:44|310Okay, continuing here. There may have been a little technical hiatus. 1288|01:41:47|830|01:41:59|290So we have this method of looking at the three levels of planets related to the three lower 1289|01:41:59|290|01:42:04|890vehicles, as each one of these vehicles represents one of the periodical vehicles. 1290|01:42:07|870|01:42:15|170The physical body represents the personality as a periodical vehicle, the astral body represents 1291|01:42:15|170|01:42:22|910the soul, causal body as a periodical vehicle, and then the mind represents the monad as 1292|01:42:22|910|01:42:24|450a periodical vehicle. 1293|01:42:25|450|01:42:30|570So, D.K. is impressing upon us the importance of Scorpio and Mars. 1294|01:42:32|180|01:42:38|310Not necessarily the most pleasant energies in the Lebron sense of pleasantness, of harmony 1295|01:42:38|310|01:42:42|830and beauty in the normal sense. 1296|01:42:44|880|01:42:51|390He says You will see from this how important are the functions of Scorpio and Mars upon 1297|01:42:51|390|01:42:59|850our planet at this time, and you will note also how brief a time remains in which humanity 1298|01:42:59|850|01:43:05|290can (rightly or wrongly) handle its tests. 1299|01:43:06|530|01:43:09|370Now you know, when was this written? 1300|01:43:11|610|01:43:20|350If it was written in 1945, then D.K. may be looking toward the future which includes even our 1301|01:43:20|350|01:43:29|230present era, saying that we are within that brief time wherein these tests must be handled. 1302|01:43:29|310|01:43:39|410If it was written earlier, say in the '30s, then the question of the impending Second 1303|01:43:39|410|01:43:41|970World War could have been considered. 1304|01:43:44|410|01:43:55|530He says You will realise also the pressure under which the Hierarchy at this time struggles 1305|01:43:56|970|01:44:00|150now that Martian energy is expressing itself upon the astral plane. 1306|01:44:00|390|01:44:08|750Well, see, doesn't it almost look as if this section was written before the preceding section 1307|01:44:08|750|01:44:17|630which said the period of 1945 saw the highest expression of Mars, especially upon the astral 1308|01:44:17|630|01:44:18|070plane? 1309|01:44:20|930|01:44:23|450Let's see if we can… 1310|01:44:23|450|01:44:30|010The year 1945 saw this influence almost completely vanish, and then down here where we're reading 1311|01:44:31|050|01:44:45|710it, we see that in fact he's telling us something about now that the Martian energy is expressing 1312|01:44:45|710|01:44:47|090itself upon the astral plane. 1313|01:44:48|460|01:44:52|850So there's quite a difference between Martian energy almost completely vanishing in 1945 1314|01:44:53|500|01:44:58|930and the idea of Mars expressing itself strongly upon the astral plane, which suggests to me 1315|01:44:58|930|01:45:06|750that the section we're now reading was written earlier than the section which preceded it. 1316|01:45:10|070|01:45:16|610So humanity really had to handle its tests during the Second World War if this was written 1317|01:45:16|610|01:45:25|050in the '30s, and humanity could have gone down and almost did, as we have been told in the 1318|01:45:25|050|01:45:34|650early… before the sun moved northward in 1942, when the Hierarchy was packing its bags, 1319|01:45:34|870|01:45:42|490so to speak, preparing to withdraw, believing that humanity would go down to defeat. 1320|01:45:45|370|01:45:53|750But if this was written in the '30s, then apparently we have passed some tests and did not go down; 1321|01:45:53|750|01:45:55|870at least then we did not go down. 1322|01:45:57|030|01:46:00|590Hierarchy certainly struggles under pressures even though their sense of time is completely 1323|01:46:00|590|01:46:06|370different than our own, and even though they realize in a way the illusory nature of time 1324|01:46:06|370|01:46:11|890as commonly understood, they do have time pressures and speak now of how brief a time 1325|01:46:11|890|01:46:12|470remains. 1326|01:46:13|450|01:46:18|990This is a master speaking, and he's speaking of time as we usually conceive it. 1327|01:46:19|870|01:46:25|350Time as an aspect of the world of illusion with which we have to deal. 1328|01:46:27|630|01:46:30|830Did humanity rightly handle its tests? 1329|01:46:31|050|01:46:34|770Did it sweep the devils out of the home? 1330|01:46:35|950|01:46:38|210Later perhaps to find that more entered? 1331|01:46:38|490|01:46:47|470Okay, but did it at least succeed in the second phase of the war? 1332|01:46:48|770|01:46:50|930To clean house? 1333|01:46:53|270|01:47:00|070Anyway, Hierarchy was extremely mobilized during the period of the Second World War 1334|01:47:01|490|01:47:08|510and even in the Tibetan's communications with his students through Alice Bailey, we see 1335|01:47:09|150|01:47:12|550the degree of his involvement, the degree of his preoccupation. 1336|01:47:12|550|01:47:21|350At one point, two years passed between his communications to the group that he was cultivating. 1337|01:47:22|910|01:47:30|370He must have been very busy indeed with the most pressing matters designed to help humanity 1338|01:47:32|730|01:47:34|590succeed and not go down. 1339|01:47:36|410|01:47:42|110Will the world Hercules lift this problem up into heaven and “elevate the Hydra” of passion 1340|01:47:42|110|01:47:54|310and hate, of greed and aggression, and of selfishness and ambition up into the region 1341|01:47:54|310|01:47:54|810of the soul. 1342|01:47:54|970|01:47:59|450Will these lower tendencies be seen? 1343|01:48:00|370|01:48:06|650Will they be neutralized by that neutral form of electricity, solar fire? 1344|01:48:06|650|01:48:12|470Will they be overcome, lifted up into the region of the soul? 1345|01:48:14|290|01:48:23|390Or will it (humanity, the disciple, the world Hercules) carry the whole matter down onto 1346|01:48:23|390|01:48:29|470the physical plane with the inevitable corollary of world disaster, world war and death. 1347|01:48:29|670|01:48:34|830Well, indeed, there was world disaster, world war, and death. 1348|01:48:35|330|01:48:41|030In other words, it seems here that he's writing in such a sense that he's questioning whether 1349|01:48:41|030|01:48:46|930there will be a second phase of the great war, which ended with an armistice in 1918. 1350|01:48:48|250|01:48:51|650Would there be a second phase because they struggled mightily to prevent that second 1351|01:48:51|650|01:48:52|070phase? 1352|01:48:52|430|01:48:59|710And humanity, the world Hercules, did carry the whole matter down. 1353|01:49:00|330|01:49:02|070And there was world disaster. 1354|01:49:02|230|01:49:03|230There certainly was world war. 1355|01:49:03|230|01:49:04|490We call it World War Two. 1356|01:49:05|150|01:49:15|270There was a huge reaping, culling of human beings through the processes of death, millions 1357|01:49:15|270|01:49:16|150and millions. 1358|01:49:17|610|01:49:21|850Such are the problems with which the guiding Hierarchy is faced. and they are faced with 1359|01:49:21|850|01:49:23|690it in the time sense. 1360|01:49:23|930|01:49:31|610Now, if for instance, this was written at the same time as a writing, which could say 1361|01:49:31|610|01:49:38|650when 1945 came, this occurred, so then in the forties, then D.K. could be speaking of 1362|01:49:38|650|01:49:48|630our present time and wondering whether we would succeed in avoiding world war disaster 1363|01:49:49|380|01:49:49|970and death. 1364|01:49:50|150|01:49:57|810And these things still face us, although he did say that the Shambhala impact of the year 1365|01:49:57|810|01:50:05|7502000 could be succeeded by perhaps less destruction than previous Shambhala impacts. 1366|01:50:08|240|01:50:13|810So there's a little, little ambiguity here, but certainly we can interpret it in both 1367|01:50:13|810|01:50:14|130ways. 1368|01:50:14|130|01:50:19|270And I think it makes a lot of sense to interpret this in terms of the possibly impending second 1369|01:50:19|270|01:50:26|550world war, which the hierarchy sought to avert through the good offices of the disciples 1370|01:50:26|550|01:50:34|410of the world who were not powerful enough or perhaps numerous enough to avert world 1371|01:50:34|410|01:50:34|810war. 1372|01:50:37|320|01:50:43|750The question is still one which comes before us, especially in a nuclear age. 1373|01:50:43|910|01:50:49|290I believe that hierarchy had so much rearranging of its plans due to the release of atomic 1374|01:50:49|290|01:50:51|950energy through the atomic bomb. 1375|01:50:51|950|01:51:04|630Um, so much rearranging of its hitherto created plans because the possibility of humanity 1376|01:51:04|630|01:51:13|370truly annihilating itself quite permanently then loomed as a possibility. 1377|01:51:14|630|01:51:19|670And D.K. did say it was a possibility which could be visioned, not some idle dream. 1378|01:51:20|710|01:51:26|510So later D.K. will talk about the plans as they did exist for the reappearance of the Christ, 1379|01:51:26|590|01:51:33|590I think in the 20th century and the plans as they had to be modified, I think due to 1380|01:51:33|590|01:51:44|270the very real appearance of atomic energy through atomic weaponry, uh, at the end of 1381|01:51:44|270|01:51:45|770the second world war. 1382|01:51:46|730|01:51:54|270So hierarchy is faced with a great time problem and is trying to prevent even now humanity 1383|01:51:54|270|01:52:03|770from going down, uh, in a still greater world disaster and greater world war and far more 1384|01:52:03|770|01:52:11|530universal death than occurred even in the second world war, which he said, I think would 1385|01:52:11|530|01:52:15|910be considered something like child's play compared to the war which could emerge. 1386|01:52:17|070|01:52:22|910Scorpio is also most interestingly connected with the constellation, Cancer, through the 1387|01:52:22|910|01:52:26|690influences of the sixth ray, coming via Neptune. 1388|01:52:27|010|01:52:27|110Correct? 1389|01:52:27|810|01:52:34|250So there is the esoteric ruler Neptune and the hierarchy ruler Neptune conveying the 1390|01:52:34|250|01:52:40|770sixth ray. Cancer itself as a constellation does not relate to the sixth ray of Mars. 1391|01:52:42|590|01:52:47|450for it should be remembered that that ray is also expressing itself through Neptune, 1|00:00:02|480|00:00:10|320but in a spiritual and esoteric manner. related not to the blood, but to the life as he is 1393|01:52:57|390|01:52:58|310fond of saying. 1394|01:52:58|310|01:53:05|670So you know, the spiritualization of science is also related to Neptune and all of the 1395|01:53:05|670|01:53:08|530psychic research which is underway. 1396|01:53:11|410|01:53:14|890Neptune governs Cancer esoterically. and also hierarchically. 1397|01:53:15|070|01:53:19|670The significance is therefore clear, for Cancer is the sign of birth 1|00:00:02|480|00:00:10|320it is the door into incarnation and the sign of generation. The processes of creating the 1399|01:53:27|650|01:53:35|630physical vehicle are undertaken in Cancer, the incarnation, the sacral center processes 1400|01:53:35|630|01:53:37|830leading to incarnation. 1401|01:53:38|410|01:53:43|690So the moon is connected with that sacral center from some perspective and the moon 1402|01:53:43|690|01:53:45|750is also the ruler of Cancer. 1403|01:53:46|650|01:53:51|270The desire for incarnation has created this descent into incarnation. 1404|01:53:53|290|01:53:55|930Scorpio is the sign of sex and regeneration. 1405|01:53:55|930|01:54:01|230Well, it's one of the signs of sex, Taurus being another, Libra being another. 1406|01:54:01|930|01:54:07|410Scorpio is the sign of sex which leads to physical incarnation and Cancer. 1407|01:54:08|550|01:54:15|590I don't know how we would count that: Scorpio, Sagittarius, Capricorn, Aquarius, Pisces, 1408|01:54:17|010|01:54:18|870and then Aries, Taurus, Gemini. 1409|01:54:18|870|01:54:27|210Well, if we count forward, we get nine signs and then the tenth sign being one of birth. 1410|01:54:30|090|01:54:33|410So Scorpio is the sign of sex and of regeneration. 1411|01:54:35|330|01:54:41|790So into matter and out of matter, regeneration, meaning that we regenerate ourselves and do 1412|01:54:41|790|01:54:45|810not generate our own kind. 1413|01:54:47|050|01:54:52|250My old teacher used to say that there comes a time in the life of every disciple when 1414|01:54:53|280|01:55:01|490he ceases reproducing his own kind and then reproduces himself, which is interesting. 1415|01:55:02|790|01:55:13|410The factor of regeneration has to do with building the new man in Christ, building the 1416|01:55:13|410|01:55:18|250man who becomes the soul rather than the man who descends into incarnation. 1417|01:55:19|590|01:55:25|130So true regeneration is, or the result of regeneration is occurring at the fourth initiation. 1418|01:55:26|110|01:55:33|850But many things lead to that, a constant improvement on the generating of the self in its true 1419|01:55:33|850|01:55:34|510nature. 1420|01:55:36|250|01:55:42|470Scorpio is the sign of sex and of regeneration, both together, and birth (in Cancer) is ever 1421|01:55:42|470|01:55:46|350the intended result of the sex relation. 1422|01:55:46|370|01:55:57|790So D.K. seems to be making a comment about our present attitudes towards sexuality as something 1423|01:55:57|790|01:56:09|830psychological, as something to promote perhaps better physical health, something that is 1424|01:56:09|830|01:56:17|930simply an indulgence of the instinctual nature without thought of the intended result, which 1425|01:56:17|930|01:56:18|870is ever intended. 1426|01:56:19|930|01:56:26|830He seems to be a conservative in this respect, and I think we do have much to learn from 1427|01:56:26|830|01:56:27|990his ideas here. 1428|01:56:28|130|01:56:31|210The Dalai Lama pretty much said the same. 1429|01:56:31|830|01:56:39|230So right now these sexual forces are being prostituted in many ways through the glorification 1430|01:56:39|230|01:56:40|130of the lower ego. 1431|01:56:42|210|01:56:48|070It's difficult to extricate oneself from those tendencies, but a greater perspective makes 1432|01:56:48|070|01:56:48|850that possible. 1433|01:56:51|280|01:56:57|090Ever the intended result of the sexual, of the sex relation. 1434|01:56:59|470|01:57:03|670So sex leads to birth as Scorpio leads to Cancer. 1435|01:57:03|670|01:57:08|030Father-spirit and Mother-matter when brought together produce the Son. 1436|01:57:08|950|01:57:15|030And this is an extrapolation of the sexual relation toward a more cosmic perspective. 1437|01:57:16|370|01:57:24|190The tests and difficulties and pains of this era are symptoms or indications of the “entering 1438|01:57:24|190|01:57:27|010into manifestation” of the new civilisation and culture. 1439|01:57:27|010|01:57:34|950So Scorpio, by helping us to confront this pain, this pain which occurs when the soul 1440|01:57:34|950|01:57:41|730descends into matter and attempts to establish its fifth kingdom within the realm of the 1441|01:57:41|730|01:57:49|990fourth kingdom of nature, Scorpio assists with this descent, and the pains and difficulties 1442|01:57:49|990|01:57:51|130are worth bearing. 1443|01:57:52|430|01:57:54|750They are birthing pains in essence. 1444|01:57:55|810|01:58:03|390So these pains and difficulties they portend says D.K. at They portend the birth of the new era for 1445|01:58:03|390|01:58:09|790which the entire world waits. and much of the waiting is actually unconscious, unconscious 1446|01:58:09|790|01:58:10|230waiting. 1447|01:58:14|180|01:58:23|990This will happen if—and D.K. does open the possibility here of delay</wrap>if—speaking esoterically— 1448|01:58:23|990|01:58:33|430the sixth ray energy of Mars is transmuted into the sixth ray energy of Neptune, for the 1449|01:58:33|430|01:58:39|250one is “objective and full of blood” and the other is “subjective and full of life.”</wrap> 1450|01:58:39|370|01:58:47|710That's the quotation which defines very clearly the relationship between Mars and Neptune. 1451|01:58:49|570|01:58:58|810We do need the Christ, who is Vishnu, who is Neptune, who represents the great subjective 1452|01:58:58|810|01:59:04|350life and who is the initiator of humanity for the first two initiations. 1453|01:59:04|590|01:59:10|950Neptune is involved in that initiation process, producing essentially the mystic rather than 1454|01:59:10|950|01:59:11|790the occultist. 1455|01:59:12|790|01:59:20|530We need this very much, and the transmutative process is up to us. 1456|01:59:22|320|01:59:40|630So I will end Esoteric Astrology Adventures 78B at this point, and we will see whether 1457|01:59:40|630|01:59:44|650there will be a 78C or whether we will go on to 79. 1458|01:59:44|910|01:59:59|910Let us together sound The Great Invocation, and it's good to see it for those who may 1459|01:59:59|910|02:00:02|370not know it by heart. 1460|02:00:11|570|02:00:19|610From the point of light within the mind of God, let light stream forth into the minds 1461|02:00:19|610|02:00:20|290of men. 1462|02:00:21|230|02:00:23|310Let light descend on Earth. 1463|02:00:25|910|02:00:32|090From the point of love within the heart of God, let love stream forth into the hearts 1464|02:00:32|090|02:00:32|650of men. 1465|02:00:32|870|02:00:35|410May Christ return to Earth. 1466|02:00:37|970|02:00:43|730From the center where the will of God is known, let purpose guide the little wills of men, 1467|02:00:44|770|02:00:47|730the purpose which the masters know and serve. 1468|02:00:50|230|02:00:55|090From the center which we call the race of men, let the plan of love and light work out 1469|02:00:55|090|02:00:59|050and may it seal the door where evil dwells. 1470|02:00:59|050|02:01:05|950Let light and love and power restore the plan on Earth. 1471|02:01:12|330|02:01:25|770Let light and love and power restore the plan on Earth. 1472|02:01:47|250|02:01:54|090Okay friends, we will move on with our discussion shortly. 1473|02:01:58|030|02:02:01|570Continuing in the Scorpio chapter. 1474|02:02:04|310|02:02:05|990See you then.
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