1|00:00:00|000|00:00:12|600Okay. Hi, friends. We are beginning Esoteric Astrology Adventure 80, 8-0, the A section 2|00:00:12|600|00:00:18|800of this on page 226, and we're about ready to get into a discussion of the decanates 3|00:00:19|280|00:00:31|380as they are found in Scorpio. The three decanates and their rulers are given very differently 4|00:00:31|380|00:00:47|500by various astrologers. One group posits Mars, the Sun and Venus and this would be the 5|00:00:47|500|00:00:53|540Sepharial, or Sepharial being the foremost spokesman for that group that studies the 6|00:00:53|540|00:01:00|560ancient Chaldean method, as ruling the decanates of Scorpio whilst another regards Mars, Jupiter and 7|00:01:00|560|00:01:07|660the Moon as the three rulers. and this is Alan Leo following the Hindu system, where 8|00:01:08|160|00:01:14|380Mars is the ruler of Scorpio, Scorpio, sub-Scorpio. Then, since Jupiter is the ruler of Pisces, 9|00:01:14|380|00:01:19|000Scorpio sub-Pisces would be Jupiter, and Scorpio sub-Cancer, the Moon. 10|00:01:21|300|00:01:30|180Perhaps the truth lies in both conclusions, if we view them from 11|00:01:30|180|00:01:39|420the esoteric standpoint or from that of the undeveloped man. This will be an interesting 12|00:01:39|420|00:01:45|820point for astrologers to investigate and study. So he's opening the door to further study 13|00:01:45|820|00:01:50|980here. Some day they will arrive at a clear decision whether it will be correct or not, 14|00:01:51|040|00:01:56|720but it will be at least a clear decision, as to the position of the five planets suggested 1|00:00:00|000|00:00:12|600as ruling the decanates (they agree on one); and the one they agree upon, I guess, 16|00:02:05|720|00:02:17|540is Mars. Mars, yes. I cannot indicate to you the essential truth because a new 17|00:02:17|540|00:02:25|460planet is arising in this sign and it is for man to discover and rightly place it within 18|00:02:25|460|00:02:30|500the circumference of the Great Wheel. Now, some have felt that this new planet is Pluto, 19|00:02:31|020|00:02:46|140but if you look closely, there is no trans-Saturnian planet indicated in the decanates, which the 20|00:02:46|140|00:02:56|360Tibetan gives. Vulcan is sometimes veiled, and perhaps occasionally, Uranus is implied, 21|00:02:56|360|00:03:07|040but generally all the planets lie within the orbit of Saturn. We have as well the issue 22|00:03:07|040|00:03:17|220of whether Pluto should be considered a new planet, because it had been discovered by 23|00:03:17|220|00:03:26|340the time the Tibetan was writing this book in the mid-thirties. So we have to see, and 24|00:03:26|360|00:03:37|200whether the planet will be an intra-Saturnian planet, or whether it will be Pluto. It is 25|00:03:37|200|00:03:43|520difficult to determine at this point, and he has not offered us a solution. 26|00:03:48|900|00:03:56|340The decanate wheels that I have worked out, the tabulation, goes as you would expect. 27|00:03:56|360|00:04:09|840As usual, in the clockwise wheel, from 30 to 20 Scorpio, and then from 20 to 10, and 28|00:04:09|840|00:04:19|920then from 10 to 0. So, the zodiacal ruler of the decanates, of course Scorpio, sub-Scorpio, 29|00:04:20|150|00:04:30|560sub-Pisces, Scorpio, sub-Cancer. The extra-zodiacal constellations, which we may be able to associate 30|00:04:30|560|00:04:40|780with the various decanates, are the serpent, Serpens, then the healer, Ophiuchus. Some 31|00:04:40|780|00:04:49|900have thought of Ophiuchus as being yet another constellation, zodiacal constellation, and 32|00:04:50|960|00:04:58|140some have wanted to add Orion to the zodiacal constellations. 33|00:04:59|040|00:05:09|780But since the zodiacal constellations are a twelve-petaled heart center within the head 34|00:05:09|780|00:05:19|900center of the great supracosmic Logos, the one about whom naught may be said, it does 35|00:05:19|900|00:05:25|780not mean thirteen or fourteen. As far as we know, all heart centers, including the 36|00:05:25|780|00:05:32|760heart centers within the head of the human being as well, have twelve petals. And so 37|00:05:34|940|00:05:47|460Scorpius and Ophiuchus are blended together in one constellation. The further constellation 38|00:05:47|460|00:05:58|000is Hercules. And of course, it would be interesting to see if we could get a picture of that. 39|00:06:04|380|00:06:11|400Now there are different theorists who have offered good thought concerning the decanates. 40|00:06:11|400|00:06:19|580This is the wheel as put together by Nicholas Dévore. And in this case, the outer wheel 41|00:06:19|580|00:06:28|160is the wheel of consciousness, and he gives us the same planets as does Alan Leo, Mars, 42|00:06:28|920|00:06:35|540Jupiter and the Moon, but there is a question. And then considering the reversing wheel, 43|00:06:36|160|00:06:43|500or rather the clockwise wheel, interiorly there is the backward sequence of Mars, the 44|00:06:43|500|00:06:55|160Sun and Venus, but Venus is questioned. When it comes to Steven Pugh's work, he does this 45|00:06:55|160|00:07:03|860a little differently, and he includes Pluto. Now for him, the inner wheel is the reversed 46|00:07:03|860|00:07:10|920wheel. So we have Mars, which everyone is agreeing upon, but then Venus is interpolated 47|00:07:11|980|00:07:19|080instead of Jupiter, and Pluto—well, let's see, it goes Mars, Sun. Venus is interpolated 48|00:07:19|080|00:07:31|860instead of the Sun. And Pluto instead of Venus. Then moving backwards, he does not use Sepharial's 49|00:07:31|860|00:07:38|220method. Let's see, the inner wheel is the reversed wheel, so it should be, according 50|00:07:38|220|00:07:45|360to Alan Leo, Mars, Jupiter, Moon, but instead we have Mars, Venus, Pluto. You notice that 51|00:07:45|360|00:07:56|060this is the only planet which is trans-Saturnian listed in the decanates. I think he's done 52|00:07:56|060|00:08:06|120a very good job portraying the esoteric and exoteric colors found elsewhere in esoteric 53|00:08:06|120|00:08:13|440psychology. The esoteric color of the first ray is red, and exoteric is orange. You see 54|00:08:13|440|00:08:26|040the distinction there. So here for the ordinary wheel, instead of having Sepharial's model— 55|00:08:26|060|00:08:39|020Mars, Sun, and Venus—we have Pluto, Venus, and Mars. So when we deal with Sepharial's 56|00:08:39|020|00:08:48|740work, it's pretty clear that he intended to remain in the normal zodiacal order. So this 57|00:08:48|740|00:08:56|040leaves us with some degree of ambiguity as to how we should treat his work. So let's 58|00:08:56|060|00:09:05|840begin with his listing: whether we should begin with the order he intended at zero degrees—in 59|00:09:05|840|00:09:13|540other words, Mars would have been 0 to 10, Sun 10 to 20, and Venus 20 to 30—or because 60|00:09:13|540|00:09:23|880the wheel is reversing, we should put—not reversing, but going in an order that is clockwise 61|00:09:23|880|00:09:30|320and not the usual order in which the signs are presented, a kind of backwards order—whether 62|00:09:30|320|00:09:38|640we should place Mars at 30 to 20—the Sun, of course, would be 20 to 10, and Venus would 63|00:09:38|640|00:09:47|840be 10 to 0. Here we have the constellations listed—the serpent, the serpent-bearer, 64|00:09:47|840|00:09:57|040and the kneeling hero. Here are the Sepharial decanates. Here's Alan Leo's decanates with 65|00:09:57|040|00:10:03|120the question of whether Neptune should be interpolated, but again that would be a trans-Saturnian 66|00:10:03|120|00:10:15|360planet. And then another astrologer, Holger Stansberg, from Denmark will give us Mars, 67|00:10:15|360|00:10:22|040Jupiter and the Moon, which is pretty much what Alan Leo has given for the wheel of form. 68|00:10:25|900|00:10:33|800And Nicholas, however, is giving us—see, this is the wheel of form. Now, really the 69|00:10:33|800|00:10:42|360Mars-Jupiter-Moon is more correlated with the wheel of consciousness. So you can see 70|00:10:42|360|00:10:51|820there's a great deal of variation in what the various theorists conceive as correct, 71|00:10:51|960|00:10:57|760one of them even inserting another planet altogether. But I do wonder here, when it 72|00:10:57|760|00:11:08|540says a new planet is arising, I wonder if it's not Vulcan. Because, you know, is Pluto 73|00:11:08|540|00:11:17|060a new planet? Was it a new planet? Is it arising? Was it arising in this sign? Or is the Moon 74|00:11:17|060|00:11:26|200somehow veiling the willpower of Vulcan, where the Moon shows up as the decanate ruler? Vulcan 75|00:11:26|200|00:11:33|200is certainly a new planet, and it has not yet been discovered, and the possibility of 76|00:11:33|200|00:11:39|980its arising, I think, is very strong. So we can consider whether this would be a possibility 77|00:11:39|980|00:11:40|920or not. 78|00:11:43|060|00:11:57|680Okay. So here we have the chart from which I've been working. And the wheel of form, 79|00:11:57|680|00:12:08|220one way of doing it, of course, is to simply reverse what Alan Leo presents to us. He presents 80|00:12:08|220|00:12:19|960to us Mars, the Sun, or Mars-Jupiter, and the Moon. So if we were to have the individual, 81|00:12:20|780|00:12:26|740the non-aspiring individual, enter at the 30-degree point, that would be considered 82|00:12:26|740|00:12:32|120the first decanate, and the Moon would be ruling what is normally considered the last 83|00:12:32|120|00:12:39|580decanate, so he would begin with the Moon. Then he would move to Jupiter, which stays 84|00:12:39|580|00:12:50|160the same, and then finally to Mars, which is the 0 to 10. This seems one way of doing 85|00:12:50|160|00:13:00|860it. And it culminates with the assertion of the individual, who is still less than 86|00:13:00|860|00:13:09|420fully soul-oriented. He's still a mind. He is not yet really a reorienting personality. 87|00:13:12|440|00:13:19|600The possibility on the reversed wheel, which is the wheel in the correct order as we understand 88|00:13:19|600|00:13:29|280it, is Mars, Jupiter, and the Moon. And I'm asking here again, can the Moon in this instance 89|00:13:29|280|00:13:36|860veil Vulcan, relating Hercules to the spiritual will and to the atmic plane? I've also questioned 90|00:13:36|860|00:13:41|920as to whether Pluto, as the healer—he is said to be the healer with the power of the 91|00:13:42|620|00:13:49|580serpent—can Pluto be involved, as this would be the Pisces decan, and Pluto is said to 92|00:13:49|600|00:13:57|840be intimately connected with Pisces. It would seem possible, but interestingly, Stephen, 93|00:13:58|020|00:14:06|020who is a very good thinker on these points, he puts Pluto not in the middle decanate, 94|00:14:06|560|00:14:12|880but in what is either the last or the first. About that, I cannot really say anything more. 95|00:14:13|760|00:14:22|920Investigation will be required. And then, of course, Mars is the first decanate. This 96|00:14:22|920|00:14:25|300is the counterclockwise entry. 97|00:14:34|660|00:14:41|220Now there are also some theorists who feel that there is a reversal going on, and that 98|00:14:41|220|00:14:48|100Ophiuchus should not be in the central decanate, but Hercules should be there, and Ophiuchus 99|00:14:48|100|00:14:56|060in the last, because he is in a way the most spiritual of the figures, of the celestial 100|00:14:56|060|00:15:04|020figures. Hercules is still struggling, but Ophiuchus can handle the serpent. Certainly 101|00:15:04|020|00:15:11|040there is the physician connected with this second decanate, and when we think about Pisces, 102|00:15:11|040|00:15:17|740which is the ruler of the second decanate, the healing potentials of Pisces are strongly 103|00:15:17|740|00:15:28|300indicated. There is a kind of Plutonic quality about this second decanate. So diverse opinions 104|00:15:28|300|00:15:37|720prevail at the moment. Here we have Alan Leo's decanates listed in a way that can be seen 105|00:15:38|660|00:15:47|400progressively moving. He moves from Mars to Jupiter to the Moon, and Sepharial moves from 106|00:15:47|400|00:15:54|080Mars to the Sun to Venus, but we could also possibly reverse these with Mars first and 107|00:15:54|080|00:16:07|220Venus last. What is problematic about beginning with Venus at any point is that it doesn't 108|00:16:07|220|00:16:18|940seem to accord either with the serpent that has to be overcome or with Hercules. Venus 109|00:16:18|940|00:16:28|860is not a planet resonant with the power of Hercules, and Venus is not a planet resonant 110|00:16:28|860|00:16:36|020with the power of the serpent, which must be handled, which must be overcome. So in 111|00:16:36|020|00:16:43|020some ways if we begin with Sepharial, it seems that we would do better to start with—well, 112|00:16:45|320|00:16:56|300it is a problem either way. If we begin with Mars from 0 to—from 30 to 20 degrees, entering 113|00:16:56|300|00:17:03|220the sign as it were backwards, Mars can well accord with the serpent. Perhaps the Sun can 114|00:17:03|220|00:17:13|860somewhat accord with the healing power of Ophiuchus. Perhaps. Venus, however, does not 115|00:17:13|860|00:17:25|140accord with Hercules. No, Venus does not well accord with the serpent. So actually, let 116|00:17:25|140|00:17:33|200me try to make this clear. The 20 to 30 decanate is generally ruled by Hercules. The 20 to 117|00:17:33|220|00:17:39|86030 decanate, the 10 to 20 by Ophiuchus, the 0 to 10 correlated with the serpent. So we 118|00:17:39|860|00:17:46|560would begin with Hercules, and Mars could well accord with Hercules. We would have Ophiuchus 119|00:17:46|560|00:17:54|140as the Sun, and then we would end with Venus. We'd end with Venus over here, and Venus would 120|00:17:54|140|00:18:01|440be the planet to accord with the serpent. And that doesn't seem to make good sense. 121|00:18:02|180|00:18:09|640Nor does it make sense to correlate Venus with Hercules, and possibly then Mars with 122|00:18:09|640|00:18:16|720the serpent. That's okay. So there are still many questions to be resolved. Given the way 123|00:18:16|720|00:18:31|420D.K. has been using intra-Saturnian planets as the planets which rule the decanate, I'm 124|00:18:31|420|00:18:40|760going to find the Moon. That is, in relation to the third decanate. The Moon does not well 125|00:18:40|760|00:18:50|920accord with Hercules at all. But the power of Vulcan representing the spiritual will, 126|00:18:51|980|00:18:57|560the power which applies that will in a practical way—of course, Hercules does do a lot of 127|00:18:57|560|00:19:03|080killing, no question about that, and Pluto, as Stephen suggests, would be a possibility. 128|00:19:03|800|00:19:12|760But Vulcan is frequently veiled by the Moon and represents a strenuous activity which 129|00:19:12|760|00:19:21|100is directed towards expression in matter. So it is a new planet, and it may be rising 130|00:19:21|700|00:19:27|080under the guise of the Moon. We cannot yet tell. Unfortunately, we have to leave this 131|00:19:27|080|00:19:34|080with some uncertainty, and we simply will be in a position where we have to experiment 132|00:19:35|060|00:19:36|920and reason this out. 133|00:19:38|300|00:19:50|760Now, as I've done before, I've looked here at the physical, emotional, and mental, and 134|00:19:50|760|00:19:57|980I haven't spent too much time on those phases. I'm more interested in the integrating personality, 135|00:19:58|880|00:20:05|660which is orienting itself as an aspirant would towards the soul, in the disciple, who is 136|00:20:05|660|00:20:14|060now responding fully to the soul, and finally to the initiate who has become the soul itself. 137|00:20:14|560|00:20:21|600The first or physical stage of man evolving in this sign is under Mars as the orthodox 138|00:20:21|600|00:20:29|420ruler, and maybe Pluto can be included. And we say here that this is a period in which 139|00:20:29|420|00:20:35|140there is an aggressive and warlike pursuit of the satisfaction of the instinctual nature. 140|00:20:36|740|00:20:44|040D.K. calls this phase in the life of the undeveloped man Unity of Selfishness. The most powerful 141|00:20:44|060|00:20:48|340monster, and I think sometimes I've called it the monster of selfishness, but this is 142|00:20:48|340|00:20:55|660the correct statement from page 333 of Esoteric Astrology. 143|00:20:56|340|00:21:01|320Unity of Selfishness, the monster, and we can expect violent, that's Mars, and even 144|00:21:01|320|00:21:07|880lethal selfishness, that's Pluto. Murder, even, to possess what one wants. Violence 145|00:21:07|880|00:21:14|200is associated with the satisfaction of sexual needs and the need for comfort. The physical 146|00:21:14|200|00:21:23|540hydra is ruling here. This is the instinctual nature, the rampant instinctual nature. The 147|00:21:23|540|00:21:30|280base of the spine center and the sacral center are in pronounced activity, though the part 148|00:21:30|280|00:21:36|320of the base of the spine which is operative is not the part which will be stimulated when 149|00:21:36|320|00:21:42|060Kundalini truly begins to rise. It's simply the survival type of instinct. 150|00:21:44|160|00:21:50|860I'm not going to go too much into this. You can read this later from the text itself. 151|00:21:53|240|00:22:06|300I'm simply using the reverse of Alan Leo here. In the physical area, I say that the 152|00:22:06|300|00:22:10|940man tends to his physical nature ruled by the moon. He uses aggression and assertion 153|00:22:10|940|00:22:16|560to assure his own safety. There is the comfort factor, the shielding factor. He learns to 154|00:22:16|560|00:22:24|660shield himself. He becomes primitively defensive. This is the Cancerian sub-decanate, which he 155|00:22:24|660|00:22:30|480is entering as an undeveloped man, defending primarily his body and that which shelters 156|00:22:30|480|00:22:36|020his body—the home, whatever that may mean to such a primitive. The factor of comfort 157|00:22:36|020|00:22:46|240of his vehicles enters. And I would say, in general, it's a great immersion in physicality. 158|00:22:47|580|00:22:53|280The sacred planets do not always have to be interpreted in spiritual ways. They have their 159|00:22:53|280|00:23:01|760lesser meanings at lesser stages of development. And I think perhaps we could see the fortification 160|00:23:01|760|00:23:04|540aspect operating here with Vulcan. 161|00:23:05|080|00:23:12|320It's interesting. I've suggested that the sun and the moon really are not the final 162|00:23:12|320|00:23:17|100rulers of anything. They are always veiling some planet, I think even in the orthodox 163|00:23:17|880|00:23:28|820position. I suggested taking this from a hint D.K. gave that the sun in Leo may actually 164|00:23:28|820|00:23:34|120be veiling Jupiter in an orthodox manner, and that the moon in Cancer may actually be 165|00:23:34|120|00:23:43|520veiling the most material and physical aspect of Vulcan. So this is sort of self-fortification. 166|00:23:45|900|00:23:53|240And I go on to discuss it. As I say, this is not so important because we cannot find 167|00:23:53|240|00:24:00|080this type of individual on the planet today—one who is purely physically polarized. But 168|00:24:00|080|00:24:08|480I've given Jupiter here kind of a material interpretation: the many experiences leading 169|00:24:08|480|00:24:17|040to instinctual gratification. So he is greedy for his satisfactions in the second decanate. 170|00:24:18|580|00:24:27|480How would the sun fit in there with Sepharial on this physical level? Well, that is his 171|00:24:27|480|00:24:37|540identity. The body is his identity here. And he identifies with that and seeks its full 172|00:24:37|540|00:24:41|220satisfaction. This is the primitive ego asserting itself. 173|00:24:42|260|00:24:50|940And then finally this is Mars moving backwards. The man is immersed in bodily processes, the 174|00:24:50|940|00:24:56|220urgent and even violent instinctual nature. So Mars is ruling the physical body and its 175|00:24:56|220|00:25:00|920appetites. And I suppose this could be considered to be the serpent of evil. There are many 176|00:25:00|920|00:25:08|000kinds of serpents, and what we originally have to do here in Scorpio is overcome this 177|00:25:08|640|00:25:14|640lower serpent and extract from it some kind of elixir. Now that's what Ophiuchus does. 178|00:25:15|340|00:25:23|080He manages to tame, to handle the serpent so that the aspects of the serpent which were 179|00:25:23|080|00:25:29|720directed towards negativity and which were poisonous, essentially, are used for better 180|00:25:29|720|00:25:30|300purposes. 181|00:25:31|500|00:25:39|740I don't—you know, you can study this as you wish. It probably—I think it is not so, not 182|00:25:39|740|00:25:49|800as profitable to discuss this part of the tabulation at this point. Now, we have the 183|00:25:50|380|00:25:57|220initially physical man, whatever decanate he may be born in. This is just how people 184|00:25:57|220|00:26:03|240are—they start out in a primitive state, concerned only with the physical instincts. 185|00:26:03|700|00:26:08|640They do gradually, as they enter the second petal and develop it, move into an emotional 186|00:26:08|640|00:26:15|940phase, but they're still under Mars as the orthodox ruler. That is in general. Because 187|00:26:15|940|00:26:22|200if you look at the three rulers of any sign, which in this case are Mars, Mars, and Mercury, 188|00:26:23|070|00:26:31|340with Pluto as a sub-ruler permeating this situation, if you look at these rulers, they 189|00:26:31|340|00:26:42|320do define distinct developmental periods in the life of the evolving man. So we're still 190|00:26:42|320|00:26:48|320under Mars, and this is a period of emotional development, but it's ruled by Mars. Mars, 191|00:26:48|320|00:26:59|120in a way, is connected with all of the sub-diaphragmatic chakras. It rules Kundalini—latent at the 192|00:26:59|120|00:27:05|680base of the spine. It's certainly connected with the sacral center, as Mars is the preeminently 193|00:27:05|680|00:27:12|820sexual planet, and the Tibetan has given its sixth ray the connection with the solar plexus. 194|00:27:13|540|00:27:24|760So now when we enter this stage of emotional unfoldment for the primitive scorpion, we 195|00:27:24|760|00:27:30|080have the solar plexus energy being added to the strong basal and sacral expression. The 196|00:27:30|080|00:27:39|980man has intense desires, not only of an instinctual nature. He is willing to fight and kill. These 197|00:27:39|980|00:27:48|620are Scorpionic Martian qualities, and with Pluto perhaps added in a very primitive way, 198|00:27:49|040|00:27:55|820he is willing to fight and kill for the satisfaction of these desires. The emotional hydra rules, 199|00:27:56|740|00:28:03|460and the man is in the grips of fear, hatred, and later of ambition, or the love of power. 200|00:28:04|460|00:28:16|020The sex, money, and comfort aspect is found describing the physical heads of the hydra. 201|00:28:16|920|00:28:27|520Well, sex and comfort, of course, can easily be pursued by the primitive man. The concept 202|00:28:27|520|00:28:37|500of money may be a little more advanced, so whatever stood for the possibility of trade 203|00:28:37|500|00:28:43|580and exchange could be considered as money, but it's generally a more advanced concept. 204|00:28:44|440|00:28:52|000So the emotional hydra rules here. At first the astro-body displays the colors red, Mars, 205|00:28:52|000|00:28:57|840and even black Pluto. There have been some drawings by Leadbeater which show a person 206|00:28:57|840|00:29:04|140in an extreme anger, angry state, and also what he calls the savage state. It's very 207|00:29:04|140|00:29:10|500red, and the anger state is filled with red and black. Later there is reaching, a reaching 208|00:29:10|500|00:29:16|180for higher objects of desire, and the element of sacrifice enters when man is willing to 209|00:29:16|180|00:29:19|620do anything to achieve his desires. 210|00:29:20|760|00:29:31|080And so what we have here also, we could look at the various planets involved. Over here 211|00:29:31|080|00:29:38|500again it's the moon, and I'm kind of developing this on the basis of the Cancer decan. Here's 212|00:29:38|500|00:29:46|160the Pisces decan, and here is the Scorpio decan, because he is after all moving back 213|00:29:46|180|00:29:55|120or clockwise on the wheel. We don't have such a sample to be able to study people of this 214|00:29:55|120|00:30:04|320kind, so these are my thoughts on the matter. But they are speculative, of course. 215|00:30:05|840|00:30:12|200But here you have it on the screen, so if you wish to freeze the screen and look at 216|00:30:12|200|00:30:16|980these things, then you are in a position to do so. 217|00:30:23|680|00:30:32|360Then we move to another stage of development, but we're still under Mars, because Mars does 218|00:30:32|360|00:30:40|200rule the mental plane, the lower mental plane on the five senses, as D.K. has told us. So 219|00:30:40|200|00:30:46|320we're under Mars with Pluto as the orthodox ruler, and this period—we call it the mental 220|00:30:46|320|00:30:52|700or lower personal period—is generally ruled by Mars, because after all we're moving towards 221|00:30:52|700|00:30:57|640becoming a personality, and Mars rules every aspect of the personality, plus the personality 222|00:30:57|640|00:30:58|620itself. 223|00:31:00|500|00:31:07|940So let's see, what is said here of the general period through which the man passes in Scorpio, 224|00:31:07|940|00:31:14|020when he is beginning to be a somewhat mental man, though not necessarily an integrated 225|00:31:14|020|00:31:19|460personality, or perhaps integrated—he's selfishly integrated, and he's not yet a reorienting 226|00:31:20|220|00:31:26|600personality. So the mind becomes sharper—that's Mars—and more penetrating, Pluto, and the 227|00:31:26|600|00:31:33|360senses more acute. The mind can be used as an instrument of power and investigation. 228|00:31:33|360|00:31:39|420So Mars ruling concrete science, and Pluto research and investigation. The personality 229|00:31:39|420|00:31:47|560is being integrated in a lower sense around the factor of power and assertion. The man 230|00:31:47|560|00:31:55|400is becoming a personality which uses increasing mental power to fight for its own intentions 231|00:31:55|400|00:32:03|340and desires. The mind can be used as an instrument to attain one's desires. The mental power 232|00:32:03|360|00:32:10|560of the total hydra becomes a factor to reckon with, and the vices of pride, separativeness, 233|00:32:10|900|00:32:18|600and cruelty. These are the three which D.K. has given us. The factors of pride, separativeness, 234|00:32:18|800|00:32:23|520and cruelty, all based upon the cultivation of the concrete mind, are recognized, and 235|00:32:23|520|00:32:30|900the man may fall under this sway, as he needs soul power still to be developed in order 236|00:32:30|900|00:32:33|020to conquer these three. 237|00:32:34|760|00:32:40|200You know, I put these together within the last couple of years, and I'm kind of interested 238|00:32:40|200|00:32:46|220to see actually what I did, but I'll have to do that at a time that's not at your expense. 239|00:32:49|480|00:32:54|600It would be, you know, when we can read the Akashic record and we can see how people actually 240|00:32:54|600|00:33:02|100did behave in these various periods of their development, and when we can know the signs 241|00:33:02|100|00:33:07|180in which they are born and under which they are born and study these horoscopes, it may 242|00:33:07|180|00:33:12|200not be the most profitable thing to do, but it will certainly be interesting in terms 243|00:33:12|200|00:33:15|300of confirming these various theories. 244|00:33:18|120|00:33:23|760Okay, the associate with mental phase, clockwise Mars, has ruled the third decan. Yes. 245|00:33:24|720|00:33:37|640Okay. I see it's up here that we have to look. Yeah, this is the place. So, again, I'm using 246|00:33:37|640|00:33:51|400the Cancer, Pisces, and Scorpio ideas preeminently, and also then, in a way, the Moon, Jupiter, 247|00:33:51|400|00:34:01|220and Mars ideas. It seems more difficult to work—more difficult somehow to work in the 248|00:34:01|220|00:34:13|180Sepharial Mars and, well, especially Venus, Sun and Venus aspects. That seems more difficult, 249|00:34:13|760|00:34:15|840because perhaps they just aren't correct. 250|00:34:17|260|00:34:30|060Okay, now we move on into an area which concerns us in a way. We are making the turn. We have 251|00:34:30|060|00:34:38|580moved from 30 to 20, 20 to 10, 10 to 0. We have been moving backwards, or clockwise, 252|00:34:38|580|00:34:52|200through the decanates, and now we're about to make the turn toward some degree of aspiration. 253|00:34:53|600|00:34:59|620So this is the fourth phase of development. It's not strictly physical, it's not strictly 254|00:34:59|620|00:35:06|600emotional, it's not strictly mental. It is having to do with the integrating personality 255|00:35:07|460|00:35:14|720and with the aspirational phase later of this integrating personality. So the individual 256|00:35:14|720|00:35:21|040at this point is still pretty much under the orthodox ruler because he's not yet fully 257|00:35:21|040|00:35:29|260responding to the soul. He's still responding to personal Mars and Pluto, more to Pluto 258|00:35:29|260|00:35:35|360unconsciously, perhaps. D.K. has told us that the only people who really respond to Pluto 259|00:35:35|360|00:35:42|860consciously are those who are disciples. But he's gradually coming under a higher Mars, 260|00:35:43|860|00:35:48|400with Mars as the esoteric ruler of Scorpio, because he's reorienting himself gradually 261|00:35:49|080|00:35:56|180towards the soul. And sometimes when I look at this fourth phase in human development, 262|00:35:56|200|00:36:04|120I want to correlate it with the certain developments in the fifth petal of the egoic lotus, where 263|00:36:04|120|00:36:14|240a person is integrating his personality, perhaps selfishly at first, and then goes 264|00:36:14|240|00:36:21|560through a number of crises which help him make the first kind of reversal of the wheel. 265|00:36:22|620|00:36:28|340And then he begins to become an aspirant, all of this within the fifth petal, such that 266|00:36:28|340|00:36:34|480by the time the fifth petal is completely unfolded, he is already an initiate of the 267|00:36:34|480|00:36:41|420first degree—excuse me—of the first degree. So we can see how many lives 268|00:36:42|240|00:36:47|180it may take to pass through this fifth petal activity. 269|00:36:48|740|00:36:55|900So what is said here about Mars at this point of personality integration and reorientation, 270|00:36:57|260|00:37:01|860eventual reorientation, is that Mars, who is the ruler of the lunar lords, which is 271|00:37:01|860|00:37:08|320the sixth grade of hierarchy, generically rules the entire personality, as well as every 272|00:37:08|320|00:37:14|980part of it, consisting of the four lunar elementals: physical, emotional, mental, and the composite 273|00:37:14|980|00:37:21|700elemental we call the personal. This personality is now selfishly integrated and powerful. 274|00:37:22|380|00:37:29|020Solar plexus energy is strong, but so is the mind, and I suppose the Ajna center to direct 275|00:37:29|020|00:37:34|540the throat center is becoming strong, the Ajna center for selfish personal direction 276|00:37:34|540|00:37:40|100is becoming strong. So is the mind, and so is the personal will. The man becomes the 277|00:37:40|920|00:37:46|540fighter. He's still under Mars. Well, he stays under Mars in Scorpio for so long. 278|00:37:46|540|00:37:53|680First, fighting for himself in the earlier part of the petal stimulation and organization, 279|00:37:53|700|00:38:02|240and later, fighting to reach the higher self, which he begins to sense. So this is the transformation 280|00:38:02|240|00:38:11|760into aspiration. The aspiration fueled by Mars leads him into what's called a conflict 281|00:38:11|760|00:38:23|160with duality, and that's a statement which is listed under the column for advancing man, 282|00:38:24|400|00:38:30|600presumably the aspirant. A conflict with duality, and he begins to engage in a battle within 283|00:38:30|600|00:38:38|280himself, and both for and at times against the influence of the soul. So he's increasingly 284|00:38:38|280|00:38:46|000becoming advanced man, whether selfishly so or better yet, increasingly selfless, although 285|00:38:46|000|00:38:52|760Mars is above all the planet of selfishness. So there's so much selfishness to overcome 286|00:38:52|760|00:39:00|240in Mars which is finally overcome to a significant degree, though not completely so, at the second 287|00:39:00|240|00:39:05|200initiation. But we're not talking about that yet. We're still at the stage of the integrating 288|00:39:05|200|00:39:14|880and aspiring personality. He may unify the personality so that it becomes very selfish, 289|00:39:16|380|00:39:20|860exemplifying the dominance of all the nine heads of the hydra, or he may begin to realize 290|00:39:21|490|00:39:32|480that these are factors to be overcome. Now, we are beginning to, let us say, reverse 291|00:39:33|180|00:39:39|940the wheel, maybe not the final reversal of the wheel, which can occur, as one very good 292|00:39:39|940|00:39:46|660astrological theorist says, more so after the second initiation and after having passed 293|00:39:46|660|00:39:53|260the temptations in the desert. Then there's no more possibility to move in a retrogressive 294|00:39:53|260|00:40:00|360left-hand way. But this is certainly a reversal, and it is centered in the fifth petal. So 295|00:40:02|480|00:40:08|900Here in the first decanate, from zero to ten, at this stage of personality integration followed 296|00:40:08|900|00:40:15|240by personality aspiration, we can say it's ruled by Mars, as Alan Leo suggests, and even 297|00:40:15|240|00:40:22|160as Sepharial suggests. The man becomes a powerful, assertive personality, using his mind, controlling 298|00:40:22|160|00:40:28|040his emotions, disciplining his physical body to fulfill his intentions, desires, and instinctual 299|00:40:28|800|00:40:38|500promptings. He is a fighter. He is… um, no, might as well put the article in there. He 300|00:40:38|500|00:40:45|920is a fighter, at first for himself, and later he begins to reach for and fight for something 301|00:40:45|920|00:40:51|180higher. He is no longer entirely under the control of the lower serpent. Remember, Serpens 302|00:40:51|180|00:40:56|900is connected with this decanate, so it can be dangerous, but now the power of the serpent 303|00:40:57|320|00:41:06|880is being properly used because Ophiuchus has learned how to tame it. The Scorpio individual 304|00:41:06|880|00:41:15|620comes under the effect of all three of the extra-zodiacal constellations, and not only 305|00:41:15|620|00:41:23|400under the one which we have been correlating with the particular… a particular decanate. 306|00:41:23|400|00:41:29|540Now Alice Bailey has kind of suggested what this correlation could be by giving these 307|00:41:29|540|00:41:34|180extra-zodiacal constellations in a certain order, but it's Nicholas Nelenn who has done 308|00:41:34|180|00:41:45|000the real thought process here, connecting the extra-zodiacal constellations with the 309|00:41:45|000|00:41:52|880decans of the… with the decans of the sign. Now it's not that we necessarily agree upon 310|00:41:52|880|00:41:59|200every correlation, but the general concept of this correlation of the extra-zodiacals 311|00:41:59|200|00:42:08|720with the decans of the sign was emphasized by him. He seems to have brought forward this 312|00:42:08|720|00:42:13|200idea and established it as something worth researching. 313|00:42:14|140|00:42:22|860So, let's see here. I seem to have moved a little bit… I think, a little bit further 314|00:42:22|880|00:42:27|480away from it. Yeah, here it is. Okay. So he's no longer entirely under the control of the 315|00:42:27|480|00:42:36|200lower serpent, the threefold personality. Now, later, of course, he manages to extricate 316|00:42:36|200|00:42:43|760himself entirely. Earlier, he almost is the serpent. He is the Hydra. So we have to distinguish 317|00:42:43|760|00:42:49|860very carefully between those people who pretty much are the Hydra, because they identify 318|00:42:49|860|00:42:55|320with all their lower instincts, those people who are neither one nor the other because 319|00:42:55|320|00:43:03|040they're in the stage of conflicting life. They are undergoing conflict with duality, 320|00:43:03|040|00:43:08|160and they're fighting to be free of the Hydra, but they're not free. And then those higher 321|00:43:08|160|00:43:11|980disciples and initiates who actually are free of the Hydra. 322|00:43:13|220|00:43:22|920Okay, so now we're in this stage of personality integration and of personality reorientation, 323|00:43:23|570|00:43:31|280and we are reversing our direction, and we are under Jupiter ruling the second decanate. 324|00:43:31|400|00:43:38|180We'll use the Alan Leo rulers, and I think they are the safest at this point, especially 325|00:43:38|180|00:43:44|200when we're dealing with spiritually evolving man. And aspiring man is spiritually evolving 326|00:43:44|200|00:43:48|720man. So now we're in the Jupiter decanate, and it says here that the lower ego expands 327|00:43:48|720|00:43:58|000at first. The man becomes attractive and magnetic. Jupiter and Sepharial's placing of the sun 328|00:43:58|000|00:44:08|160there. And that may still apply, because the man is still pretty much a person. He's not 329|00:44:08|160|00:44:17|560to cure and to offset harm, to render certain harmful situations harmless. Jupiter is involved 330|00:44:17|560|00:44:25|340here. It's a planet of blessing, and Ophiuchus, the healer, so the cure, the one who cures. 331|00:44:25|740|00:44:31|620His helpfulness and benevolence are increasing. He has increasing knowledge and some wisdom 332|00:44:31|960|00:44:40|440to control the lower forces, and I would add here, the lower forces of the serpent, which 333|00:44:40|440|00:44:49|720is increasingly handled. Sometimes we call Ophiuchus the serpent handler, the serpent 334|00:44:49|720|00:44:50|840holder, the serpent handler. 335|00:44:52|000|00:45:01|600Now we move into the lunar area. The moon rules the moon. The moon rules the moon, and 336|00:45:01|620|00:45:13|180rules the last… Yes, according to the Tibetan, the moon rules the last decanate of Cancer. 337|00:45:14|160|00:45:18|840Now we might not think it to be the case, but that's what he gives us. But really, it 338|00:45:18|840|00:45:24|900becomes quite clear that the moon is veiling Vulcan in ruling the last decanate of Cancer. 339|00:45:24|900|00:45:35|360Now here we have the ordinary Hindu order. We have Alan Leo's Mars, Jupiter, and the 340|00:45:35|360|00:45:42|660moon. Now the question is, will we substitute another planet? Stephen Pugh suggests Pluto. 341|00:45:43|760|00:45:51|760I'm wondering about Vulcan. What I'm saying here is that the man exerts a conditioning 342|00:45:51|760|00:46:01|140effect upon his personality vehicles. He learns the power of control. Okay. The power of control 343|00:46:01|140|00:46:08|980of his personality vehicles. Now Hercules, of course, is the mythological figure, or 344|00:46:08|980|00:46:15|960really a true figure, but he has been mythologized, so what he is mythologically can also be consulted. 345|00:46:16|780|00:46:24|180Hercules is a controlling figure. Through his might, through his power, he controls 346|00:46:24|180|00:46:31|560many circumstances, defeats many opposing forces, and kills many opponents. He smites 347|00:46:32|540|00:46:39|660them, so to speak. When I'm thinking about smiting, I'm thinking very much about Vulcan. 348|00:46:39|940|00:46:47|840It's the hammer. If you have in your hand an implement, a weapon, a mace, whereby you 349|00:46:47|840|00:46:54|240eliminate an opponent, that is a Vulcanian gesture. Perhaps to shoot an arrow, especially 350|00:46:54|240|00:47:00|680a poisoned arrow, is more a Plutonian gesture. His strength of will is increasing. He moves 351|00:47:00|680|00:47:08|420from protecting and defending himself, as he did so much under the moon, from 30 to 352|00:47:08|420|00:47:20|10020 degrees, when he was simply the average non-aspiring person, or even a primitive person. 353|00:47:20|120|00:47:23|240So his strength of will is increasing, and he moves from protecting and defending himself 354|00:47:23|240|00:47:32|360to protecting and defending others. Some aspect of unselfishness is entering. He has certain 355|00:47:32|360|00:47:39|160ideals towards which he has reoriented himself, and he has the strength to do this. I guess 356|00:47:39|160|00:47:45|920it's been a while since I've looked at this, but what I have done, actually, is I've suggested 357|00:47:48|660|00:47:59|360that Vulcan may indeed be the new planet arising in this sign. I've suggested that. 358|00:48:02|360|00:48:10|040Let's see. A new planet is arising in this sign. I want also to look at how he discusses 359|00:48:10|040|00:48:17|140the battle for the third initiation. And I'm going to go over here in Esoteric Astrology, 360|00:48:17|900|00:48:29|440and I'm going to go to page 71. And he calls it a hidden planet. At the third initiation, 361|00:48:29|440|00:48:36|200the moon veiling a hidden planet and Mars brings about a fearful conflict, but at the 362|00:48:36|200|00:48:42|120end, the man is released from personality control. So I'm wondering whether the hidden 363|00:48:42|120|00:48:51|400planet here, which shows itself at the third initiation, which I really think is Vulcan, 364|00:48:52|400|00:49:02|960is the same as the new planet which is arising in this sign. It would at least conform to 365|00:49:02|960|00:49:20|000the intra-Saturnian model which has been used. When we start to insert trans-Saturnian planets 366|00:49:20|000|00:49:29|220as decanate rulers, we are on uncertain ground. Now sometimes D.K. gives kind of an association 367|00:49:30|500|00:49:37|060here. I think we are going to find a place where he talks about the moon actually standing 368|00:49:37|060|00:49:45|880for Uranus, representing concrete unenlightened science. There are a few hints which seem 369|00:49:45|880|00:49:56|060to extend beyond Saturn, but not very many at all, and perhaps we should be cautious 370|00:49:56|850|00:50:05|140in assigning trans-Saturnian planets. Of course we cannot yet determine what is accurate. 371|00:50:06|340|00:50:15|860Now let's move on away from the stage of aspiration into a still higher stage, which 372|00:50:16|720|00:50:28|120is the stage of discipleship. I'm trying to line all this up after a number of years. 373|00:50:29|740|00:50:39|460This is that stage of development in which the man becomes the disciple, mentally responsive 374|00:50:39|460|00:50:48|820to the soul, aspirationally oriented towards the soul, one who is in process of transformation, 375|00:50:49|300|00:50:58|820even as the aspirant is in process of transmutation. But of course the transmutative power continues 376|00:50:58|820|00:51:06|220even while one is a disciple. So now we're still under Mars, but it's not the lower desirous 377|00:51:08|080|00:51:22|080Mars; it's aspirational, noble, valorous Mars, the high-minded fighter for something 378|00:51:22|080|00:51:28|300greater than his lower self. So under the influence of higher Mars Pluto, with Mars 379|00:51:28|650|00:51:34|120as the principle esoteric ruler, but having intimations of the power of Mercury on three 380|00:51:34|120|00:51:39|760levels: the concrete mind, the son of mind, and eventually the power of the intuition. 381|00:51:40|260|00:51:50|280So Mercury is coming. Mercury is another ruler, the final ruler, which we have to insert when 382|00:51:50|280|00:51:59|300we begin to consider that the man may be influenced by his spirit aspect. So under the influence 383|00:51:59|300|00:52:04|920of higher Mars at this time, Mars being the principle ruler, but there are intimations 384|00:52:04|920|00:52:09|040coming in of Mercury because the disciple is mentally polarized and Mercury is such 385|00:52:09|040|00:52:14|380a mental planet. So we may be feeling the presence of Mercury, and Mercury is very, 386|00:52:14|540|00:52:21|620very strong in Scorpio anyway, helping to overcome the emotions and later to bring illumination. 387|00:52:22|510|00:52:31|720So what I say of this general period, regardless of the particular decanate that may be concerned, 388|00:52:32|940|00:52:43|340is as follows: That the disciple is fully engaged in the conflict with duality. The 389|00:52:43|340|00:52:48|340pairs of opposites in this case are just very simply soul and personality. He is the fighter 390|00:52:48|340|00:52:55|060within the personality and on behalf of the soul nature. He's not fighting for his personality 391|00:52:55|060|00:53:00|620expression. At least he knows that's not the correct thing to do. If he finds himself doing 392|00:53:00|620|00:53:06|340that, then he changes his position in the battle and reasserts himself on behalf of 393|00:53:06|340|00:53:13|320the soul over the personality. He recognizes the hydra as his opponent and dweller, and 394|00:53:13|320|00:53:18|420is engaged in the conflict to overcome it. This is quite different from the early Scorpionic 395|00:53:18|420|00:53:25|160experience of identifying as the dweller, even though this type of identification is 396|00:53:25|160|00:53:32|760unconscious at that stage. Here's a quotation in Scorpio: “In this sign, the disciple undergoes 397|00:53:32|760|00:53:39|560those tests which will enable him to take the second initiation and demonstrate that 398|00:53:39|560|00:53:46|360the desire nature is subdued and conquered, and that the lower nature is, by being lifted 399|00:53:46|360|00:53:52|600up in the air (i.e., into heaven), capable of reaching the goal for this world period.” It 400|00:53:52|600|00:53:57|740doesn't necessarily mean it has reached the goal, but it is capable of reaching the goal 401|00:53:57|740|00:54:04|040for this world period. And what may that be? The fourth initiation, perhaps? What do we 402|00:54:04|040|00:54:12|640actually mean by a world period? Do we mean the duration of our particular planet? Do 403|00:54:12|640|00:54:19|400we mean some round that is passing through all the schemes? Do we even mean some round 404|00:54:19|400|00:54:27|040that is passing through all the chains? It's a vague term, but he gives indication by passing 405|00:54:27|040|00:54:34|380the second initiation that he has entered the stream, and that he will be borne along 406|00:54:34|380|00:54:41|860and carried along towards the fulfillment that lies ahead—certainly the fulfillment 407|00:54:41|860|00:54:52|420of the fourth degree. And that from the earthly foundations of Scorpio, under the third ray, 408|00:54:52|420|00:54:59|920I suppose, the personality can be so tested that it shows fitness for the world service 409|00:55:01|340|00:55:08|540demanded in Aquarius. And we did discuss this earlier, the relationship between Scorpio 410|00:55:09|480|00:55:15|520and Aquarius—how the world server is prepared by the tests in Scorpio. This is beautifully 411|00:55:15|520|00:55:20|420expressed for us in the Legend of Hercules, the sun God who overcomes the nine-headed 412|00:55:20|420|00:55:28|340hydra or serpent of desire by being forced to his knees, and from that position of humility 413|00:55:28|340|00:55:38|760lifts the serpent into the air. And then deliverance comes. So we did read this earlier when discussing, 414|00:55:38|780|00:55:50|400I think, the fixed signs from Esoteric Astrology, 143 and 144. Okay, now I think—okay, I'm 415|00:55:50|420|00:56:02|820done. So now I think it's time to look at what it will mean to go, to live this disciplic 416|00:56:02|820|00:56:08|760soul experience as a disciple in Scorpio, or perhaps under Scorpio, in certain of the 417|00:56:08|760|00:56:18|080decanates. And we're using the Alan Leo order here; we're using Mars, Jupiter, and the Moon, 418|00:56:18|580|00:56:26|880perhaps veiling Vulcan. At times I work in other of the suggestions here, but we just 419|00:56:26|880|00:56:38|800have too many planets for the decanates, although when he gives us Gemini, we interestingly 420|00:56:39|720|00:56:48|060have six planets given, I think. Let's see if I can see that under—I think it's 421|00:56:48|080|00:56:57|700Gemini moving up here on this table of decanates. And here is the yellow, which makes it difficult 422|00:56:57|700|00:57:06|160to see, but yes, Alan Leo gives—Sepharial gives us Jupiter, Mars, Sun, and D.K. says it's 423|00:57:06|160|00:57:17|260correct. In this case, the Chaldean listing is correct. And then Alan Leo gives us Mercury, 424|00:57:17|260|00:57:30|020Venus, and Saturn. So there are six operative planets here, and each one of them is associated 425|00:57:30|020|00:57:37|380with one of the six decanates. There are really three decanates, but if you take them in two 426|00:57:37|380|00:57:44|440directions, you have to think about there being six. And generically, at least, there is the 427|00:57:44|440|00:57:50|600sense of a developmental phase from the dense physical through the emotional to the mental, 428|00:57:51|440|00:57:56|980through the personal (whether selfish or reoriented), through soul responsiveness, and then finally 429|00:57:56|980|00:57:59|320through spirit responsiveness. 430|00:58:00|200|00:58:14|420Okay. Now, I think we're getting near—yes, we're quite near to our goal of the whole 431|00:58:14|440|00:58:21|440one-hour program, hoping that this makes it a little bit easier for you to handle these. 432|00:58:24|380|00:58:31|600I think I won't do The Great Invocation at this point. I'll wait until the end of the 433|00:58:32|130|00:58:43|920two hours. Well, no, no, I won't. We're in the phase of disciplic soul. Okay. Now, we're 434|00:58:43|920|00:58:53|840starting out with the Mars decanate. The disciple is overcoming his hydra on all levels. He 435|00:58:53|840|00:59:00|220has courage—Mars, that's the ruler of this first decanate—and the power to terminate 436|00:59:00|220|00:59:06|020and detach. That's Pluto. He is definitely fighting with his inherent duality in order 437|00:59:06|020|00:59:13|900to achieve a higher unity, which he recognizes as spiritual. Now, that, I think, is the most— 438|00:59:13|920|00:59:25|700higher unity is found over here. Let's take a look at this: page 333. Here is the higher 439|00:59:25|700|00:59:33|880unity which the true disciple or initiate achieves. But at the moment, he's engaged 440|00:59:33|880|00:59:42|380in conflict with duality, moving towards the higher unity of the high disciple. Some Kundalini 441|00:59:42|380|00:59:47|180experiences may emerge. Mars is involved with that. But it can be questioned whether they 442|00:59:47|180|00:59:55|140can be controlled. For the disciple who is responding to the soul, this disciple being 443|00:59:55|140|01:00:03|620an initiate of less than the third degree, the control of Kundalini is not likely. Okay. 444|01:00:03|620|01:00:13|960At least the full control. Now, we have reached the point where we can say, okay, we're beginning 445|01:00:13|960|01:00:33|600Esoteric Astrology adventure, number 80, and this is the end of EAA 80, section A. So, 446|01:00:33|660|01:00:49|000we are here discussing disciple soul in relation to the decanates. And now we begin EAA 80, 447|01:00:49|580|01:01:03|600section B, discussing the disciple soul phase in relation to the second decan ruled by Jupiter. 448|01:01:03|620|01:01:04|180Okay.
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